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Video: The Amero Debate
« on: October 08, 2007, 10:37:44 pm »
Daily Show 10/8/2007

Jon Stewart greased the rails for the NAU question (not sure the motif, but now we got it on video)

Vincente Fox says that the standard of living went way up with Nafta (average of $9,000 per Mexican).  He believes that with a North American Union, Mexicans can have a $20,000 a year income on average.



OK folks, here are the facts:


US Census 2005 Average household member income in United States is $25,000 per year ($44,000 per home).  How are 100 million Mexicans going to get an extra $12,000 per year?  Got any idea guys? Anyway let's move on...

Vincenti Fox was president from 2000-2006

NAFTA was created by Bill Clinton in 1993.  From 1993-2000 over 750,000 jobs were lost:


More here:
http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/briefingpapers_nafta01_us

Wages for Mexicans 1990-2000


More here:
http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/briefingpapers_nafta01_mx

Now that Wal-Marts are opening in Mexico wages have gone down another 25%

Friday, April 28, 2006
http://californiawriter.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_archive.html
End NAFTA: Solve the Immigration Problem


The whole debate over immigration in the United States has ignored NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, which is the crux of the problem. After NAFTA was signed between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada, the treaty starting in 1995 allowed U.S. huge agricultural corporations to to dump their corn and beans into Mexico, bankrupting 2 million small Mexican farmers who were driven off the land. Many remaining small farmers in Mexico are nearly destitute. Tens of thousands of these farmers immigrated north to the U.S..

NAFTA also allowed Wal-Mart to sell in Mexico low-price goods made in China, destroying most of the Mexican shoe, toy and candy firms . Roger Bybee and Carolyn Winter said, "An estimated 28,000 small and medium-sized Mexican business have been eliminated." After NAFTA, wages in Mexico have fallen 25%. Bybee and Winter say, "NAFTA essentially annexed Mexico as a low-wage industrial suburb of the US and opened Mexican markets to heavily-subsidized U.S. agribusinesses, blowing away local producers."

Before NAFTA there were 2 million Mexican undocumented in the United States, but after NAFTA passed in 1995, 8 million more Mexicans migrated North. NAFTA was sold as designed to improve the Mexican economy but it has done the opposite: driven down Mexican wages. Also U.S. corporations opened low-wage factories (maquiladoras) along the border which pollute heavily. So Mexicans suffer not just the low wages but also the pollution, horrible housing such as as card board shacks, lack of sanitation seen in open sewers. Further, Mexican government lacks resources for improving services, hiring enough police, erecting streetlights.

There is an alternative to NAFTA and all its ill effects: the European Union and its "social charter." When European countries joined in a free-trade zone similar to NAFTA, they did it totally differently. They insisted on adopting a "social charter" that demanded decent wages, heath care, and investment in all countries. Bybee and Winter said, "Before then-impoverished nations like Spain, Greece and Portugal were admitted, they received massive EU investments in roads, health care, clean water, and education. ... The underlying concept: the entire reason for trade is to provide impoved lives across borders, not to exploit the cheapest labor and weakest environmental rules." EU countries also invested in Ireland, another impoverished country, improved its highway system. This improved highway system helped ignite the Irish economic boom of the 1990s, which drew back to Ireland many exiles.

Bybee and Winter argue that the huge immigration from Mexico to the U.S. is a symptom of the problem caused by NAFTA. The only way to deal with it is to change NAFTA to a social charter like the European Union's. If we don't, the situation will worsen with the Central Amerian Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) with five Central American countries, which will do to Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador et. what NAFTA did to Mexico.

Of course, HR 4437 should be voted down. A guest worker program should be eliminated from the Senate bill. A social contract should be added to NAFTA.

The U.S. should start immediatley investing in Mexican sanitation systems, housing, education etc. The Mexican government should stop repressing its trade union movement. Industries in Mexico such as the dairy industry should be protected from competition with U.S. giants. Both U.S. and Mexico should enforce strict environmental rules on U.S. companies on the border and start a cleanup of pollution. Such measures may sound utopian now, but the European Union has done similar work for over a decade. Such measures are the only way to solve the immgigration problem.

To read Rogert Bybee's and Carolyn Winter's excellent article "Immigration Flood Unleased by NAFTA's Disasterous Impact on Mexican Economy" go to http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0425-30.htm


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Jerome Corsi just said that Vincente Fox was on Larry King and admitted to the Amero last night:

CNN Larry King Interviews Vincente Fox

43 min - Oct 9, 2007
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7255925213122926825

41:09 he takes the question:

KING: E-mail from Mrs. Gonzalez in Elizabeth, New Jersey. "Mr. Fox, I would like to know how you feel about the possibility of having a Latin America united with one currency?"

FOX: Long term, very long term. What we propose together, President Bush and myself, it's ALCA, which is a trade union for all of the Americas. And everything was running fluently until Hugo Chavez came. He decided to isolate himself. He decided to combat the idea and destroy the idea...

KING: It's going to be like the euro dollar, you mean?

FOX: Well, that would be long, long term. I think the processes to go, first step into is trading agreement. And then further on, a new vision, like we are trying to do with NAFTA.
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Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 09:37:20 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkfzRR1Zzj8

Amero Debate - CNBC Worldwide



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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2007, 09:40:25 pm »

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2007, 09:46:19 pm »
Lou Dobbs: North American Union Orwellian Brave New World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U&mode=related&search=

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 09:48:59 pm »

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 09:53:03 pm »
Alan Colmes: North American Union a Conspiracy Theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50qy-EvM6EM&mode=related&search=

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 09:55:22 pm »
Lou Dobbs Slams CFR & North American Union. plus  Ron Paul gets in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjsy2Z3kdI&mode=related&search=

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 10:02:17 pm »
NAFTA and the North American Union

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwC_Ek9L328

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 10:05:02 pm »
Who is in charge?

Cheney Laughs About North American Union Agenda Deception

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brYWujMC-0k&mode=related&search=

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2007, 10:38:40 pm »
Good job Rock.  If the NAU doesn't exist, then why is everyone talking about it?  They are trying to creep the NAU in so slowly, and incrementally, by the time they admit it exists, we will probably be speaking fluent Spanish and walking around in some kind of pseudo-post Orwellian, Minority report grid like Matrix earning credits instead of cash.

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 03:22:34 am »
waoh..    oh.
that was a lot more evidence to add to my pile (lists)
thanks

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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2007, 04:02:33 pm »
Ex-Mexican leader's statue felled
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/141007statue.htm
BBC Sunday October 14, 2007


Opposition protesters in Mexico have torn down a bronze statue of the former president, Vicente Fox, just hours after it was erected. They threw eggs at the monument in Boca del Rio in the state of Veracruz, before putting a rope around its neck and pulling it to the ground. Many of the crowd were reported to be supporters of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI. It lost power after more than 70 years when Mr Fox was elected in July 2000. More than 100 angry protesters are reported to have attacked the statue on Saturday morning, just after it had been put up by workers. An inauguration ceremony scheduled for Sunday has now been cancelled. "We came to represent society because we don't want this monument here," Adolfo Mota, a PRI lawmaker in Mexico's lower house of congress, told AP news agency. Mr Fox is facing a financial probe into allegations he enriched himself during his presidency. He denies any wrongdoing.
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Re: Video: The Amero Debate
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2007, 01:25:06 pm »
And Yet people sitll think your Crazy if you say a North American Union is in Planning.
John 1:4&5

"In him was life; and the life was the light of men.  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."