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I'm surprised they didn't include Kucinich on their list of so called "terrorist" politicians. After all, you must be with Al-CIAda if you want to know what criminals are doing with your blood money.

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I'm surprised they didn't include Kucinich on their list of so called "terrorist" politicians. After all, you must be with Al-CIAda if you want to know what criminals are doing with your blood money.
Because Kucinich endorsed Lord Obama.
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Re: How can we verify/source this info?
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2009, 11:35:21 am »
lol ... busted!

Sounds like a bad idea to me. Does it look fake to you or something?

No, it looks real to me... It just freaks me out, I'm in MO. I can see anyone with a Ron Paul sticker being labeled as a terrorist.

This document needs to go VIRAL = EVERYWHERE!!!

Screw contacting the State about this - I sure as hell am not going to be knocking on their doors! Contact everyone you know, including the National and Local Media!

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Because Kucinich endorsed Lord Obama.

Bingo.
But support of Lord-O doesn't guarantee security. Look at Hitler, Stalin. They executed staunch suppoters on a whim and a whisper. Will Dennis remain in favor indefinitely?

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i was given a public relations number to call..

it's been busy since i got hold of it...

573-526-6115
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I have respect for DK though much less when he sided with the usurping moor.
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I have clicked on the thumbnails and they have enlaged, however, the documents are still not legible on my screen...

If you have a scroll wheel on your mouse, hold down the ctrl key and scroll to reduce/enlarge.

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Information Analysis Centers

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I have respect for DK though much less when he sided with the usurping moor.

I agree, and it makes me wonder if those politicians who choose to walk a tightrope between legitimate interests and those of the established order (in an attempt to remain in a position that allows them to be effective) are clutching at straws.

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Some of the documents looked so badly photoshopped and poorly written that it's hard to believe their authenticity. Couldn't find any place called the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) on google but I did find the Missouri Statistical Analysis center. Could be real. Looks fake in some parts to me, though.

Glad I don't live in Missouri.

Read the linked site, now it makes sense. Oh, well.

"Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner"

http://miacx.org/(X(1)S(yog4taquv0cb5f3hkg15hy45))/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

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Some of the documents looked so badly photoshopped and poorly written that it's hard to believe their authenticity. Couldn't find any place called the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) on google but I did find the Missouri Statistical Analysis center. Could be real. Looks fake in some parts to me, though.

Glad I don't live in Missouri.

Read the linked site, now it makes sense. Oh, well.

"Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner"

http://miacx.org/(X(1)S(yog4taquv0cb5f3hkg15hy45))/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

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Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/
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Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.

The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

I have a message for the authors and endorsers of that disgraceful report:

                              You are the "terrorists."

That's right. You're cowardly, psychopathic, parasitic, freedom-hating, anti-American terrorists. Every single one of you!
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Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/Jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/

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THIS MAKES ME SICK!!!!!  I'M NOT FEEL'N SO WELL,, I THINK I NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND MAKE A QUEEN ELIZABETH....








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Can Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr and the Campaign for Liberty sue Missouri police or the Missouri Governor for defamation or anything else? 

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Did you read the 12/08 section of Page 6 about "anti New World Order rhetoric"?

WTF, it is like saying:

"Anyone who does not totally commit to intergeneration slavery for the next 1,000 years should be shot on sight.

These guys should not be sued, they should be in jail!
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aaron russo would not have been surprised to see his film on the list >:(
then theres zeitgeist and the NWO association- you can bet everyone on this forum will be designated a terorists and put on a watch list if you are not already.

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Re: Secret State Police Report
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2009, 10:07:02 pm »
Sorry if there is a topic on this already, didn't see one in my brief perusal. If so, combine them please.

Did anyone else find this a bit... disturbing?

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

So if you supported Ron Paul, or are a Libertarian, or have a Gadsden flag, or a copy of Freedom to Facism, you are a terrorist. Holy crap, half the people I know must be terrorists! What do I do? Whom do I turn them in to for a reward and a nice pat on the head?

This report creates an 'us and them' mentality with Missouri police officers, and makes them think anyone with freedom leaning views sees them as an enemy and is out to get them. The state did it's propaganda well.

I have AFTF, Endgame, Terrorstorm, Martial Law 9/11, Police State 3, Road to Tyranny, American Drug War, Loose Change, Fabled Enemies, and Truth Rising, so I must be a Tim Osman's "number 2". ;D

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/051208_feds_accuse.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2006/260406likelyterrorists.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/310707coupleterrorized.htm

http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/cw_rushing_update.htm



Also trying to remember that story about that man whose house was raided because he had AJ videos.

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I googled the phone number, and here's what I came up with. The people that claiming they've talked to Hull and Holtz are in fact listed as heads of the The Public Information and Education Division.

http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/PIED/index.html

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Here is more information from the Ron Paul forum to confirm Secret State Police memo:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183583

March 12, 2009

-1.This all started for me today here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=183388

0. (Missouri Information Analysis Center) MIAC is a legitimate organization, to start. http://www.miacx.org/(X(1)S(snfe1o45...ookieSupport=1

1. Called the number on the flier for Missouri Information Analysis Center Phone number 573-751-5422 and was directed to their PR department.

2. They transfered me to 573-526-6115, which was busy. I called back 3 times before I got through to the secretary who took all of my information and said someone would call back. I told her if I heard nothing I would be required to pass this information along to the folks in Missouri who might be affected and to the media. She said she understood my concern.

3.I called back about 4 times and was met with a busy signal.

4. Approximately 4pm Press Releases sent out and copied to the emails listed on the flier. The emails did not bounce back, indicating they are legitimate emails. [email protected], [email protected]

5. About 3.5 hours after the first phone call I got a phone call from an officer Hotz of the state highway patrol who called me from 573-522-0000. He confirmed that they stand by everything in the memo, just not all the rumors on the internet. I had him repeat that he confirmed it about 5 times. He told me it was not sweeping everyone under that title, just noting TRENDS in militia members. He told me that the militia is a threat because officers have been killed by militia members.

6. Held a conference call and decided to A. try to get a state legislature to help us in some way. B. contact the governor and have him respond to the fact he met with homeland security with homeland security 2 days ago, at the very "fusion center" this document was leaked from (see number 8 below). 3. Attack this economically/financially by encouraging everyone attending the C4L conference to move their business to the IL side of the state line and contact the StL chamber of commerce, MO chamber of commerce, the hotel and the press declaring how they will not give their tourism dollars to such a state but STILL ATTEND THE CONFERENCE WITH THEIR PAUL/BALDWIN/BARR BUMPER STICKERS PROUDLY.

7. Someone was trying to disrupt the conference call the entire time - proof someone is trying to stop us from talking about this. They played what sounded like pornography in the background, pushed buttons repeatedly, made static noises, and I just kept telling them I loved them and that I was trying to keep their children from becoming slaves and that this petty disruption would not detract us.

My 7pm central radio show and my 8pm conference call are recorded on skype, so you can hear the detractors. http://www.restoretherepublicradio.com/Libert
y_Restoration_Hour_Liberty_Restoration_Hour__Show_ Six for the show.

8. The very agency, Missouri Information Analysis Center, a fusion center, was visited by Homeland Security and Governor Nixon on Wednesday March 11th. http://newstribune.com/articles/2009...te05fusion.txt

9. I called the KCPD to see if they could verify the memo 816-234-5510; they laughed at me and told me to call the FBI.

10. I called the FBI and she told me to go to my state legislature and hung up on me (after I asked many many questions) (816) 512-8200

11.I have returned calls to all 3 of the Jefferson City numbers I have listed above and was only able to leave message on the first, 573-751-5422, voicemail for Mike.

12. Huge conference held in KC talks about fusion centers and how local law enforcement is SPYING ON LOCAL CITIZENS: http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2009/03/...l_fusion_c.php

13. KC fusion center convention: http://www.iir.com/registration/fusi...a/agendaFC.pdf

That is all the information I have at this time, but I have no reason to beleive this is a hoax.

If you want to help with any of the strategy mentioned above in number 6, please email [email protected]. I'm putting together teams for each goal right now and looking for other action items to take on.

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People are worried about the military acting as robot droids and should be as worried about the State Police doing the same especially when the leadership is putting forth disinformation bulletins such as this one we speak about.

I believe as in any organization there will be a line in the sand where the good men and women will not cross no mater the consequences.

In the coming weeks and months we will see an intensifying surge to demonize the true Patriots and Defenders of the Republic, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The Obomination movement will stall and fail unless the masses of  TV watching lemmings can be lobotomized even further into blindly following the Pseudo-President now occupying the White House.

This is but another step in the master plan to integrate this country into the NWO and rid this land of it's only true hope of remaining free. You and I are the last of the obstacles in their way, let us stand till the end and we will prevail.
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Did you read the 12/08 section of Page 6 about "anti New World Order rhetoric"?

I posted something about this on my blog and put into the title what this really is: Project Megiddo Redux.

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I have been trying to infiltrate the far right messageboards like Hannitys. I posted links to this news story. Have full denial from the necons on this one. Most wont even look at the links. Im trying to hit as many messageboards as i can and drop infobombs.

Once they realize they cant discredit it they simply delete the thread or ignore it.

Hannity Thread.
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When I first saw the document, I thought it was a bit dodgy, given the grammatical errors and poor layout. Obviously I was wrong and I'm happy to admit that and I apologise unreservedly for being sceptical. This is bombshell news for our cousins in the States.

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Is Alex Jones on Drugs? (don't worry, it's not what you think)
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2009, 07:29:45 am »
Is Alex Jones On Drugs?
14 Mar, 2009

http://www.kootenaicp.org/2009/03/14/is-alex-jones-on-drugs/

Yesterday someone emailed me an Infowars article entitled “Secret Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists”. I had to read this I thought; it might be good for a laugh or two, the guys at Infowars are smoking weed again.

In the article Infowars claims to have received a document from an anonymous Missouri police officer. The document is a report he says was distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) in association with Homeland Security, with the title “The Modern Militia Movement”.

The Infowars article says: “The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.” The writer goes on to explain the report further alleges ties these mainstream groups have with racists, and violent groups. I read the alleged MIAC report and have never seen a more inflammatory bunch of nonsense in my life.

OK, Mr. Infowars writer, what’s your name, Kurt Nimmo? Now you have my attention. You’ve gone too far. As chairman of the Constitution Party in Kootenai County I would be interested to find out if Homeland Security in a MIAC document is really training law enforcement that I am a terrorist based on my association with the Constitution Party, and my support of Ron Paul, as that would make me the logical leader of the local terror cell in the area.

Now I’m getting upset. Why would Infowars publish something so absurd? Is there any chance this goofy nutcase article is true? Imagine my shock and horror when I called the State Chairman of the Constitution Party to find out this article is true! He supplied me with the phone number of the Secretary of the Constitution Party of Missouri. She told me Missouri State Representative Jim Guest confirmed the MIAC document is authentic! You could have knocked me down with a feather.

In the last two years I have been involved with the Ron Paul campaign, Campaign for Liberty, and several months ago I left the Republican Central Committee of Kootenai County to go to work for the Constitution Party, first as Vice Chairman of the Kootenai County Constitution Party, and recently as the Chairman. In that time I have had the privilege of getting acquainted with some of the most wonderful, patriotic, and spiritual men and women I have ever known. I am proud to call them my friends, and I have never heard any seditious or terrorist talk from any of them.

To those who have taken an oath to uphold and defend The Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, law enforcement and military, I hope you will find great comfort in witnessing groups like ours assigning the proper reverence to the supreme law of our constitutional republic, The Constitution of the United States of America. My friends and I have nothing in our hearts but love and respect for all law enforcement, and military personnel faithfully fulfilling their oath to uphold The Constitution. Please go to oathkeepers.blogspot.com. I have confidence any attempt to, as the Infowars article puts it, “radicalize the police against political activity guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights” will be seen for what it is, a classic Marxist provocation intended to polarize our people and law enforcement personnel. I urge the slandered groups to investigate and vigorously pursue their legal recourse. I pray cooler heads will prevail.

My sincere apologies to Alex Jones, and Kurt Nimmo for thinking you were on drugs. But hey, come on, this is pretty wacky stuff.

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2009, 11:27:46 am »
Interesting article.

Either the author made it inflamatory intentionally to get folks to read it... or... seriously has his head up his ass. Maybe a bit of both.

If the guy thinks that Alex and staff are usually 'smoking weed', it tells you how pathetic and asleep the 'leaders' of the mainstream constitution party are. Just one step from the mainline republicrats and Rush worshippers. Sad, really.
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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2009, 07:10:58 pm »
This is Amerika, a demokracy, not a Republic

Some of the most recent articles elaborate on the methods that the local cowboy cops with police-state mentalities have been utilizing to apprehend the non-socialist populace.  I guess that my question is, "Why is anyone surprised?"  The electors have been consistently and repeatedly voting into office all forms of liberal, socialist, humanist, collectivist, One World Government and New World Order advocates, proponents and adherents, therefore, “why is anyone surprised?”
Live with what you have put into office or start thinking, if you can, with reason and logic, and vote them out of office!
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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2009, 07:52:59 pm »
This is Amerika, a demokracy, not a Republic

Some of the most recent articles elaborate on the methods that the local cowboy cops with police-state mentalities have been utilizing to apprehend the non-socialist populace.  I guess that my question is, "Why is anyone surprised?"  The electors have been consistently and repeatedly voting into office all forms of liberal, socialist, humanist, collectivist, One World Government and New World Order advocates, proponents and adherents, therefore, “why is anyone surprised?”
Live with what you have put into office or start thinking, if you can, with reason and logic, and vote them out of office!
You have allowed yourself to be dumbed-down by the government schools and the totally, controlled media so your only hope is to uneducate yourself from what the elitists have done to your brain by going to the library and read those olde dusty books that once were read in order to learn and understand what it takes to be obligated and responsible for GOOD government!


Show your fellow man the truth. That's our only hope! (Chicks too!)
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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2009, 11:58:26 pm »
This is for real ... The Kansas City Star just confirmed it, and is running the story.

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Missouri report on militias, terrorists draws criticism
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| A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.

The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.

"It seems like they want to stifle political thought," said Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians. "There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don't support violence as a means to any ends."

But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted.

Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report comes from publicly available, trend data on militias. It was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, a "fusion center" in Jefferson City that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. The center, which opened in 2005, was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said.

"All this is an educational thing," Hotz said of the report. "Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it's our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement."

But Tim Neal, a military veteran and delegate to last year's state GOP convention, was shocked by the report's contents.

"I was going down the list and thinking, 'Check, that's me,'" he said. "I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the 'America: Freedom to Fascism' video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?"

Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views.

"If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner," Neal said. "And this guy's walking up to my vehicle with a gun."

But Hotz said using factors in the report to determine whether someone could be a terrorist is not profiling. He said people who display signs or bumper stickers from third-party groups are not in danger of harassment from police.

"It's giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs," Hotz said of the report. "It's not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It's not even saying that all militias are bad."

Posted on Sat, Mar. 14, 2009 02:22 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1086524.html

They are prepping the Law Enforcement Community to start getting nervous around true patriots.  Ganking our guns is next up on the list.  Obama and His Zio-Jew Crew have that legislation all ready in the pipeline.
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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2009, 09:11:53 am »
This is for real ... The Kansas City Star just confirmed it, and is running the story.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1086524.html

They are prepping the Law Enforcement Community to start getting nervous around true patriots.  Ganking our guns is next up on the list.  Obama and His Zio-Jew Crew have that legislation all ready in the pipeline.

I love the title they use:

"Missouri report on militias, terrorists draws criticism"

instead of:

"Missouri report defines tyranny so horrendous that Hitler would be proud"
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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2009, 04:21:21 pm »
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"These members ARE USUALLY supporters of former Presidential Candidate: Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr."

"Usually" implies a large percentage.

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The article does not EQUATE support for Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin with terrorism

Hmm, I wonder what percentage/number the cops, the intended readers of the memo, would "equate" to "usually"?
Not that your observation isn't correct, but think of the scarcely disguised implications behind the word "usually"
 

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2009, 12:37:18 pm »
I heard it...I don't believe it...but I heard it.

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

This country is starting to resemble a line form "Springtime For Hitler" in "The Producers"....don't be stupid, be a smartie, come and join the Nazi Party.

I'd like to say that I'd thought I'd never see the day.

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2009, 12:38:35 pm »
If we plaster pro liberty stickers on the bankers & neocons cars and houses they will have no choice but to arrest themselves??? maybe?? LOL

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2009, 01:16:37 pm »
Missouri State Police Think You And I Are Terrorists
by Chuck Baldwin
March 17, 2009

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2009/cbarchive_20090317.html

Thanks to a concerned Missouri state policeman, a nationally syndicated radio talk show host stated that he was alerted last week to a secret Missouri state police report that categorized supporters of Congressman Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and myself as "'militia' influenced terrorists." The report, he said, "instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties."

Ignoring the threat of Muslim terrorists, the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report focuses on the so-called "militia movement" and "conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order."

This report is not original, of course. During the Clinton administration, a Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and Joint Terrorism Task Force explicitly designated "defenders" of the Constitution as "right-wing extremists." However, the MIAC report significantly expands on earlier documents and is the first known document to actually name names.

According to the MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a potential threat to the police. The MIAC report also refers to Aaron Russo's film, "America: Freedom to Fascism."

The story exposing the MIAC report states, "The MIAC report is particularly pernicious because it indoctrinates Missouri law enforcement in the belief that people who oppose confiscatory taxation, believe in the well-documented existence of a New World Order and world government (a Google search of this phrase will pull up numerous references made by scores of establishment political leaders), and are opposed to the obvious expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states as violent extremists who are gunning for the police. It specifically targets supporters of mainstream political candidates and encourages police officers to consider them dangerous terrorists."

See the report here:

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

The Columbia Daily Tribune also carried the story last Saturday. It quoted Missouri resident Tim Neal of Miller County. "When Neal read the report, he couldn't help but think it described him. A military veteran and a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention, he didn't appreciate being lumped in with groups like the Neo-Nazis.

"'I was going down the list and thinking, "Check, that's me,"' he said. 'I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the "America: Freedom to Fascism" video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?'"

The Tribune's report also acknowledges, "The [MIAC] report's most controversial passage states that militia 'most commonly associate with third-party political groups' and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional [sic] Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year."

The Tribune report also said, "Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views."

See the Columbia Tribune report here:

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/mar/14/fusion-center-data-draws-fire-over-assertions/

I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn't. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute--and commit acts of violence against--a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society's mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.

Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao's China; Hitler's Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin's Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. That a State police agency in America would actually infer that people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself in a political campaign are somehow indistinguishable from violence-prone "militias" is beyond insulting: it is a smear campaign, and might should even be regarded as a hate crime!

Beyond that, the MIAC report paints with a very broad brush. In addition to supporting Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, a review of the report reveals that opposition to any of the following risks someone being classified as a potential "domestic terrorist":

The New World Order
The United Nations
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention (Con Con)
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion on demand
Illegal Immigration


Again, if you oppose any of the above, or if you supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, you risk being labeled a "domestic terrorist," according to the MIAC.

Do you not see how dangerous this kind of slanderous labeling can become? It could affect your flight status when you try to board an airline. It could affect your application for sensitive jobs. It could affect your adjudication before a court or judge. It could make you a target for aggressive law enforcement strategies. It could affect your being able to obtain a passport. It could affect one's ability to purchase a firearm or receive a State concealed weapon permit.

This is very serious business! We are not talking about private opinions. We are talking about law enforcement agencies. And remember, most law enforcement agencies share these types of reports; therefore, how many other state police agencies have similar reports floating around? Probably several. Plus, how do we know that this report was not influenced by federal police agencies? We don't.

Rest assured, I do not plan to take this lying down. As one who is personally named in the above report, I demand a public retraction and apology from the MIAC and Missouri State Police. I can tell you that my family is extremely distraught that their husband, father, and grandfather would be labeled in such a manner. I am also not ruling out legal action. In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course).

In the meantime, I encourage everyone who believes in the freedom of speech and who believes that the MIAC report is an egregious miscarriage of justice to contact the appropriate Missouri police officials. Here is the contact information:

Email address: [email protected]


Missouri Information Analysis Center
Division of Drugs & Crime Control
P. O. Box 568
Jefferson City, MO 65102-0568
Phone: 573-751-6422
Toll Free: 866-362-6422
Fax: 573-751-9950


And lest one thinks that none of this concerns him or her, I would like to remind you of the lament of Martin Niemoeller back in the days of Hitler's Germany. Niemoeller was a decorated U-Boat Captain and pastor of great distinction. An avid anti-communist, Niemoeller at first supported Hitler's rise to power and was hesitant to oppose the violations of civil rights against various groups he personally found distasteful. It did not take long, however, before Niemoeller realized that when laws protecting the rights of all were removed from some, no one was safe--including him. Unfortunately, he learned his lesson too late, as he, too, was persecuted and imprisoned by Hitler's State Police. Here is what Niemoeller said about his indifference:

"They came first for the communists, and I did not speak up-
                    because I was not a communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up-
                    because I was not a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up-
                    because I was not a Jew;
And then they came for me-
                    and there was no one left to speak up."


So, those of you who think you have nothing to fear because you did not vote for Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or me, or because you do not live in the State of Missouri need to think again. As I have repeatedly said, we either have freedom for all, or we have freedom for none. Truly, secret police reports such as the one above threaten the liberties of us all.

So, will you speak up now or wait until they come for you and no one is left to speak up?

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2009, 01:31:02 pm »
Who are the terrorists? The ones doing terrorist acts or the general public? I say its the Secret Police. It's nothing but government sponsored suppression of the constitution.

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2009, 01:39:03 pm »
Who are the terrorists? The ones doing terrorist acts or the general public? I say its the Secret Police. It's nothing but government sponsored suppression of the constitution.

According to the unconstitutional US Patriot Act, a terrorist can be defined as (according to section 802 of the insane legislation-I am paraphrasing but not changing any words, content):

"the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion or affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping"

OK, here is Dick Cheney saying that Barack Obama's policies will lead to future 9/11's on US soil: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=93233.0

You can look at the last 3 months of Barack Obama speeches where he says that the impending economic doom of the US will occur if more Federal Reserve funding bailouts/stimulus packages are not signed.

Here is a thread on Dick Cheney/Barack Obama's Assassination squad: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=92448.0

And we all know that rendition is a huge policy of the Bush/Obama administrations.

WHO ARE THE TERRORISTS?


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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2009, 06:02:01 pm »
By Chuck Baldwin
March 17, 2009
NewsWithViews.com
“I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn’t. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute–and commit acts of violence against–a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society’s mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.
Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao’s China; Hitler’s Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin’s Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. That a State police agency in America would actually infer that people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself in a political campaign are somehow indistinguishable from violence-prone “militias” is beyond insulting: it is a smear campaign, and might should even be regarded as a hate crime!”
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin498.htm

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2009, 06:24:17 pm »
Stephen Lendman has referred to the Missouri police documents and the PP article in a good piece he wrote for the Centre for Research on Globalization. It's also hosted at marketoracle.co.uk

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article9459.html
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America is for sale as a commodity. Serfdom is planned for most people, and Obama is as much at fault as Bush so let's be clear. He's either a consenting co-conspirator in the looting of the country or a willing dupe letting it happen in his name. Either way, he's part of a crime syndicate driving world economies and most people everywhere to ruin to enrich and further empower a select Wall Street elite - the same ones and their lobbyists that provided millions for his campaign.

On March 12 at the Business Roundtable, Obama assured attending CEOs that serving corporate America is Priority One, especially the financial elite with as much of the nation's resources as they need. He said that the "only way we can truly unlock credit and heal our financial system for good is to address the state of our banking system. And I know that this crisis is at the top of your immediate concerns - and I promise you, it is at the top of mine as well." He means that he'll continue to:

-- stiff-arm the public with empty rhetoric, hollow promises, and little in the way of real help;

-- strip-mine the nation's wealth for Wall Street and the rest of the FIRE sector (finance, insurance and real estate); and

-- provide smaller amounts for other business sectors at his discretion but not enough to keep bankers and vulture investors from buying much of it on the cheap.
The reference to the Missouri documents comes during the article's concluding portion, Militarizing America for Business and All Contingencies .

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Re: State Police Report "Ron Paul Supporters are Terrorists"
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2009, 08:07:37 pm »
Guess I'd better rip the Ron Paul bumper sticker off my gun cabinet and lower my Gadsen Flag.

Damn!