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Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos

Not since JFK has there been such a reservoir of expectations

Tuesday, 20 January 2009

 
 
As the new US administration prepares to take office amid grave financial and international crises, it may seem counterintuitive to argue that the very unsettled nature of the international system generates a unique opportunity for creative diplomacy.


That opportunity involves a seeming contradiction. On one level, the financial collapse represents a major blow to the standing of the United States. While American political judgments have often proved controversial, the American prescription for a world financial order has generally been unchallenged. Now disillusionment with the United States' management of it is widespread.

At the same time, the magnitude of the debacle makes it impossible for the rest of the world to shelter any longer behind American predominance or American failings. Every country will have to reassess its own contribution to the prevailing crisis. Each will seek to make itself independent, to the greatest possible degree, of the conditions that produced the collapse; at the same time, each will be obliged to face the reality that its dilemmas can be mastered only by common action.

Even the most affluent countries will confront shrinking resources. Each will have to redefine its national priorities. An international order will emerge if a system of compatible priorities comes into being. It will fragment disastrously if the various priorities cannot be reconciled.

The nadir of the international financial system coincides with simultaneous political crises around the globe. Never have so many transformations occurred at the same time in so many different parts of the world and been made accessible via instantaneous communication. The alternative to a new international order is chaos.

The financial and political crises are, in fact, closely related partly because, during the period of economic exuberance, a gap had opened up between the economic and the political organisation of the world. The economic world has been globalised. Its institutions have a global reach and have operated by maxims that assumed a self-regulating global market. The financial collapse exposed the mirage. It made evident the absence of global institutions to cushion the shock and to reverse the trend. Inevitably, when the affected publics turned to their political institutions, these were driven principally by domestic politics, not considerations of world order. Every major country has attempted to solve its immediate problems essentially on its own and to defer common action to a later, less crisis-driven point.

So-called rescue packages have emerged on a piecemeal national basis, generally by substituting seemingly unlimited governmental credit for the domestic credit that produced the debacle in the first place, so far without achieving more than stemming incipient panic. International order will not come about either in the political or economic field until there emerge general rules toward which countries can orient themselves.

In the end, the political and economic systems can be harmonised in only one of two ways: by creating an international political regulatory system with the same reach as that of the economic world; or by shrinking the economic units to a size manageable by existing political structures, which is likely to lead to a new mercantilism, perhaps of regional units. A new Bretton Woods kind of global agreement is by far the preferable outcome.

America's role in this enterprise will be decisive. Paradoxically, American influence will be great in proportion to the modesty in our conduct; we need to modify the righteousness that has characterised too many American attitudes, especially since the collapse of the Soviet Union. That event and the subsequent period of nearly uninterrupted global growth induced too many to equate world order with the acceptance of American designs, including our domestic preferences. The result was a certain inherent unilateralism – the standard complaint of European critics – or else an insistent kind of consultation by which nations were invited to prove their fitness to enter the international system by conforming to American prescriptions.

Not since the inauguration of president John F Kennedy half a century ago has a new administration come into office with such a reservoir of expectations. It is unprecedented that all the principal actors on the world stage are avowing their desire to undertake the transformations imposed on them by the world crisis in collaboration with the United States.

The extraordinary impact of the President-elect on the imagination of humanity is an important element in shaping a new world order. But it defines an opportunity, not a policy. The ultimate challenge is to shape the common concern of most countries and all major ones regarding the economic crisis, together with a common fear of jihadist terrorism, into a strategy reinforced by the realisation that the new issues like proliferation, energy and climate change permit no national or regional solution.

The new administration could make no worse mistake than to rest on its initial popularity. The role of China in a new world order is crucial. A relationship that started on both sides as essentially a strategic design to constrain a common adversary has evolved over the decades into a pillar of the international system. China made possible the American consumption splurge by buying American debt; America helped the modernisation of the Chinese economy by opening its markets to Chinese goods.

Each side of the Pacific needs the cooperation of the other in addressing the consequences of the financial crisis. Now that the global financial collapse has devastated Chinese export markets, China is emphasising infrastructure development and domestic consumption. It will not be easy to shift gears rapidly, and the Chinese growth rate may fall temporarily below the 7.5 per cent that Chinese experts define as the line that challenges political stability.

What kind of global economic order arises will depend importantly on how China and America deal with each other over the next few years. A frustrated China may take another look at an exclusive regional Asian structure, for which the nucleus already exists in the ASEAN-plus-three concept. At the same time, if protectionism grows in America or if China comes to be seen as a long-term adversary, a self-fulfilling prophecy may blight the prospects of global order. Such a return to mercantilism and 19th-century diplomacy would divide the world into competing regional units with dangerous long-term consequences.

The Sino-American relationship needs to be taken to a new level. This generation of leaders has the opportunity to shape relations into a design for a common destiny, much as was done with trans-Atlantic relations in the postwar period – except that the challenges now are more political and economic than military.

The complexity of the emerging world requires from America a more historical approach than the insistence that every problem has a final solution expressible in programmes with specific time limits not infrequently geared to our political process. We must learn to operate within the attainable and be prepared to pursue ultimate ends by the accumulation of nuance. An international order can be permanent only if its participants have a share not only in building but also in securing it. In this manner, America and its potential partners have a unique opportunity to transform a moment of crisis into a vision of hope.

The author was National Security Adviser, 1969-75 and US Secretary of State, 1973-77.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/henry-kissinger-the-world-must-forge-a-new-order-or-retreat-to-chaos-1451416.html



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Offline Benito the Octopus

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 06:43:56 am »
sigh *shakes head*


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Re: On Obamanation Day Kissinger renews call for a New World Order
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 08:35:24 pm »
The Devil has spoken.
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 12:34:18 am »
Chaos it is. I think Kissinger is sold old he has dimensia
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 02:52:24 am »
Oh give it a rest you old fart. I'm surprised you're even alive - I'm willing to bet the average individual with "average" healthcare would be dead given your condition right now.
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 03:00:01 am »
I am all for chaos. The sooner the better.
I don't want their New World Order.
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 05:22:33 am »
Their order,so they believe,comes through chaos.

Kissinger has been spouting the same rethorics for years and he is getting boring,it's as if he's the only one left believing in his own crap now  ^^
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 05:37:36 am »
When henry kissinger meets his maker at the gates of the afterlife... i wonder what his maker will say.
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 05:40:48 am »
When henry kissinger meets his maker at the gates of the afterlife... i wonder what his maker will say.

In hell there is no maker to talk too..kissingers famous quote is "power is the ultimate aphrodisiac"...Im sure obamas feeling it this morning..
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 05:44:58 am »
In hell there is no maker to talk too..

Lol it will probably be something like

The Devil: "that's my boy!"
The truth will set you free
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 06:10:02 am »
Maybe his maker is from hell ?
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 06:13:30 am »
Maybe his maker is from hell ?

could be,..you gotta remember this guy worships a 30 foot owl, in a cloak...It would be easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle, then for him to make it to heaven..
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 06:23:06 am »
Yeah well as a personal opinion I don't think anyone really worships that owl,it's more of a "In your face religion" in the manner of Pagan rituals described in H.P Lovecraft's weird tales...and if they do believe in it,then I guess I'm right of thinking they are out of their minds.

Most members from the Bohemian's Grove are spiritual/religious outcasts and elitist sociopaths i.e neo-cons,homosexuals,men of power/war criminals so there is an agenda behind the Grove and even the fact that it was brought to light in the last years,the agenda of creating religious disturbances within the USA,and it worked.
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 09:23:05 am »
I wonder what Kissinger's idea of 'chaos' is...

Does he think that sovereign national states sorting out their own affairs is a bad thing? Nimrod.  :D

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 09:50:53 am »
he crosses his legs like a woman...



Imagine him ina  catholic confession box

"forgive me father for i have sinned"

"why don't we start from the beginning"

"o dear ... ve're going to be here a vile ... I'm not sure i'll live long enough"
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 10:21:59 am »
Oh I'll take the chaos Kissinger. Bring on your army of death; I'll die smiling in chaos before trusting a genocidal war criminal like you to organize my life.

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 11:12:11 am »
EVERY DAY this man calls for a New World Order. Every single day. You cannot deny this.

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 03:58:01 pm »
As i said Kissinger is delussional at his age.  But regardless... there are other options then a NWO or Chaos. For instance , put the whole financial system into bankruptcy, wipe out all FRAUDULDENT DERIVATIVES, keep the debt society needs to function. THEN, have the GOV issue its own  monetized federal investment (Credit) and spent it into infrastructure in cooperation with the soveriegn states of the nation. (Ex: Very Highspeed Magnetic Railway) so people can get to and from work 10x faster and get rid of the horrendous 2-4 hours commutes and congestion, this gives people an additional 2-4+ hours to do what they please, and if they have a family, spend time with them..

Then invest in new agriculture technology (NOT GMO) and use these fields of nothing that are meant for solar panels for it (LaRouche said it correctly, Solar Energy creates nothing but deserts).

And finally, NEW POWER. Nuclear, Fusion etc..... Wind and Solar = SCAM

If we go Wind/Solar we will be living in the stone age!

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2009, 07:14:08 am »

Kissinger, the name itslef give me a rash coupled with high blood pressure.

He is the war master, the genocidal maniac and  grand wizard and advisor to the puppets. In short a murdering, inhuman bag of fetted worms.

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2009, 07:38:58 am »
he crosses his legs like a woman...



Imagine him ina  catholic confession box

"forgive me father for i have sinned"

"why don't we start from the beginning"

"o dear ... ve're going to be here a vile ... I'm not sure i'll live long enough"

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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2009, 03:09:59 pm »
got to hand it to kissenger, hes a pretty smart guy in the sense that he knows how to invade a country or two, but when it comes to common sense, this guy is a freaking idiot.  if i saw him in a dark alley u could bank on the world being a freer place...
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2009, 08:05:40 pm »
got to hand it to kissenger, hes a pretty smart guy in the sense that he knows how to invade a country or two, but when it comes to common sense, this guy is a freaking idiot.  if i saw him in a dark alley u could bank on the world being a freer place...

'And them that take by the sword shall perish by it.'

Ending one minion simply creates another - you have to nip it at the bud. The system is corrupt because it is a corrupt system, it is intended to exploit the lesser individual who is merely a consumer. To change what Kissinger and others do would require the change of human nature, ~ala new word order.

It is why we are going this route.
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Re: Henry Kissinger: The world must forge a new order or retreat to chaos
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2009, 12:18:56 am »
As i said Kissinger is delussional at his age.  But regardless... there are other options then a NWO or Chaos. For instance , put the whole financial system into bankruptcy, wipe out all FRAUDULDENT DERIVATIVES, keep the debt society needs to function. THEN, have the GOV issue its own  monetized federal investment (Credit) and spent it into infrastructure in cooperation with the soveriegn states of the nation. (Ex: Very Highspeed Magnetic Railway) so people can get to and from work 10x faster and get rid of the horrendous 2-4 hours commutes and congestion, this gives people an additional 2-4+ hours to do what they please, and if they have a family, spend time with them..

Why does society need debt to function?
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