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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2008, 04:53:18 am »
How convenient.....

from: http://www.kansascity.com/811/story/729504.html

Anthrax suspect dies in apparent suicide
By DAVID WILLMAN
Los Angeles Times
One of the nation’s top biodefense researchers has died in Maryland from an apparent suicide, just as the Justice Department was to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailing assaults of 2001 that killed five, the Los Angeles Times has learned.

Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who for the past 18 years worked at the government’s elite biodefense research laboratories at Fort Detrick, Md., had been informed of the impending prosecution, people familiar with Ivins, his suspicious death and with the FBI investigation said.

Ivins’ name had not been disclosed publicly as a suspect in the case that disrupted mail service and Senate business three weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The Maryland scientist had for years played a pivotal role in research to improve anthrax vaccines, preparing anthrax formulations used in experiments on animals.

Regarded as a skilled microbiologist, Ivins also had helped the FBI analyze the powdery material recovered from one of the anthrax-tainted envelopes sent to a U.S. senator’s office in Washington, D.C.

Ivins died Tuesday at Frederick Memorial Hospital after having ingested a massive dose of prescription Tylenol mixed with codeine, said a friend and colleague who declined to be identified out of concern, he said, that he would be harassed by the FBI.

The death -- without any mention of suicide -- was announced to Ivins’ colleagues at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, or USAMRIID, through a staffwide e-mail.

“People here are pretty shook up about it,” said Caree Vander Linden, a spokewoman for USAMRIID, who said that she was not at liberty to discuss details surrounding the death.

The extraordinary turn of events followed the government’s payment in June of a settlement valued at $5.82 million to a former government scientist, Steven J. Hatfill, who was long targeted as the FBI’s chief suspect despite a lack of any evidence that he had ever possessed anthrax.

The payout to Hatfill, a highly unusual development that all but exonerated him of committing the anthrax mailings, was an essential step to clear the way for prosecuting Ivins, according to lawyers familiar with the matter.

Federal investigators moved away from Hatfill -- for years the only publicly identified “person of interest” -- and ultimately concluded that Ivins was the culprit after FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III changed leadership of the investigation in late 2006.

The FBI’s new top investigators -- Vincent B. Lisi and Edward W. Montooth -- instructed agents to re-examine leads or potential suspects that may have received insufficient attention. Moreover, significant progress was made in analyzing properties of the anthrax powder recovered from separate letters that were addressed to two U.S. senators.

The renewed efforts led the FBI back to USAMRIID, where agents had first questioned scientists in December 2001, a few weeks after the fatal mailings.

By spring of this year, FBI agents were still contacting present and former colleagues of Ivins. At USAMRIID and elsewhere, scientists acquainted with Ivins were asked to sign confidentiality agreements in order to prevent leaks of new investigative details.

Soon after the government’s settlement with Hatfill was announced June 27, Ivins began showing signs of serious strain. One of his longtime colleagues told the Times that Ivins, who was being treated for depression, indicated to a therapist that he was considering suicide. Soon thereafter, family members and local police officers escorted Ivins away from USAMRIID, where his access to sensitive areas was curtailed, the colleague said.

Ivins was committed to a facility in Frederick for treatment of his depression. On July 24, he was released from the facility, operated by Sheppard Pratt Health System. A telephone call that same day by the Times verified that Ivins’s government voicemail was still functioning.

The scientist faced forced retirement, planned for September, said his longtime colleague, who described Ivins as emotionally fractured by the federal scrutiny.

“He didn’t have any more money to spend on legal fees. He was much more emotionally labile, in terms of sensitivity to things, than most scientists. ... He was very thin skinned.”

A spokeswoman for the FBI, Debra Weierman, said Thursday that the bureau would not comment regarding the death of Ivins. Last week, however, FBI Director Mueller told CNN that, “in some sense, there have been breakthroughs” in the case.

“I’ll tell you we made great progress in the investigation," Mueller added. “And it’s in no way dormant.”

Ivins, the son of a Princeton-educated pharmacist, was born and raised in Lebanon, Ohio, and received undergraduate and graduate degrees, including a Ph.D. in microbiology, from the University of Cincinnati.

The eldest of his two brothers, Thomas Ivins, said that he was not surprised by the events that have unfolded.

“He buckled under the pressure from the federal government,” Thomas Ivins said, adding that FBI agents came to Ohio last year to question him about his brother.

“I was questioned by the feds, and I sung like a canary,” Thomas Ivins said, referring to his efforts to describe his brother’s personality and tendencies. “He had in his mind that he was omnipotent.”

Ivins’s widow declined to be interviewed when reached Thursday at her home in Frederick. The couple raised twins, who are now 24 years old.

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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2008, 12:12:05 pm »
Isn't anthrax one of the most controlled substances on the planet.  How'd he get it past their sniffer sensors, and the extensive decontamination processes?

"The death -- without any mention of suicide -- was announced to Ivins’ colleagues at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, or USAMRIID, through a staffwide e-mail."
--and that sounds like a strong arming manuver to keep the other government tools in line - i.e. 'see what happens if you try to blow whistles'.
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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2008, 12:24:16 pm »

History Channel Admits Anthrax Attacks are an Inside Job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdamOzrfZI0


Damm - I missed this thread and didnt see the video before they took it down.
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« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2008, 01:44:33 pm »

Damm - I missed this thread and didnt see the video before they took it down.

WTF!?!?!?  The censorship on Youtube is getting ridiculous!!! >:(

I can't believe how many videos are getting pulled!


So does anybody actually think this guy killed himself, or do we all agree he was murdered?




btw ... Here is a preview for Alex Jones new film on the JFK Assassination!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHJE4vmzR-E



 

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« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2008, 02:09:03 pm »
WTF!?!?!?  The censorship on Youtube is getting ridiculous!!! >:(
I can't believe how many videos are getting pulled!
So does anybody actually think this guy killed himself, or do we all agree he was murdered?
No we don't all agree. I believe the FBI and USofA gove jackboots HARRASSED and falsely accused him, because they are ignorant lazy, psychotic, stupid, peonish, scared, smart aleck JERKS who live off their TV inspired "gut feeling" - and would much rather attack a scientist whose CONVENIENT home is right outside Fort Detriek... and cause him so much false harrassment and pain, and force him ONTO "ANTI-PSYCHOTIC NUTJOB MEDIATIONS" - AND government TAPPED psychologist and psychatrist interviews.... then claim he is HOMOCIDAL because HE WANTED TO BEAT THE EVER LOVING SHIT OUT THEM - and keep the tinted windows SUV's wih their goddamned whisper 2000 gear pointed at his HOME for a whole year after they ransacked it 3 spearate major times and FOUND NOTHING.....

 That the poor sob finally did WHACK OUT on the psychotropic meds they had him COURT ORDERED TO CONSUME that would kill a neocon elephant - that he "did himself in" INSTEAD OF GETTING A GUN AND MURDERING AS MANY OF THEM AS HE POSSIBLY COULD.
 
 So no, we don't all agree, not 100% anyway. They could have murdered him as well, it doesn't really matter, it was stark raving obvious he was 100% innocent.

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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2008, 07:00:12 pm »

Damm - I missed this thread and didnt see the video before they took it down.

Here it is! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RvRdkQLbc



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« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2008, 07:39:11 pm »
No we don't all agree. I believe the FBI and USofA gove jackboots HARRASSED and falsely accused him, because they are ignorant lazy, psychotic, stupid, peonish, scared, smart aleck JERKS who live off their TV inspired "gut feeling" - and would much rather attack a scientist whose CONVENIENT home is right outside Fort Detriek... and cause him so much false harrassment and pain, and force him ONTO "ANTI-PSYCHOTIC NUTJOB MEDIATIONS" - AND government TAPPED psychologist and psychatrist interviews.... then claim he is HOMOCIDAL because HE WANTED TO BEAT THE EVER LOVING SHIT OUT THEM - and keep the tinted windows SUV's wih their goddamned whisper 2000 gear pointed at his HOME for a whole year after they ransacked it 3 spearate major times and FOUND NOTHING.....

 That the poor sob finally did WHACK OUT on the psychotropic meds they had him COURT ORDERED TO CONSUME that would kill a neocon elephant - that he "did himself in" INSTEAD OF GETTING A GUN AND MURDERING AS MANY OF THEM AS HE POSSIBLY COULD.
 
 So no, we don't all agree, not 100% anyway. They could have murdered him as well, it doesn't really matter, it was stark raving obvious he was 100% innocent.

I'm kind of leaning on your take---harassed to death. They seemed to be setting him up.
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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2008, 03:23:56 am »

Have any of you guys read this yet, and if so what do you think about it?

The Hidden Anthrax Letters Suspect

http://www.infowars.com/?p=3715

I thought the part about THE LAVON AFFAIR in 1954 was pretty interesting, Israelis were caught planting bombs and framing Muslims.


A lot of people on other forums are acting like the media said it was always an inside job/domestic terrorism.

Can somebody post a ton of links where the Mainstream Media originally said the anthrax attacks were done by Al-Qaeda and not domestic? 

Thanks. :)




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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2008, 05:50:06 am »
ABC News initially claimed govt. sources told them it was Iraqi anthrax.

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while the obligation (to journalists) for source confidentiality is close to absolute, it does not extend to a source who deliberately exploits confidentiality to disseminate lies to the public. Under those circumstances, it's axiomatic in journalistic ethics that a reporter is not only permitted, but required, to disclose the identity of the source who purposely used the reporter to spread lies.

… Whoever fed ABC News the false "bentonite" stories weren't "sources" in any meaningful sense; they used ABC to disseminate to the public highly significant, and very consequential, lies. What possible justification is there for ABC to continue to protect the identity of those who deliberately foisted on the public such a destructive fraud?

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/03/journalism/

We are subject to a huge campaign of disinformation aimed at the domestic American news media. The recent exposure of the Pentagon military analyst program leaves no doubt how much the news media is awash with black propaganda.

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"Internal Pentagon documents repeatedly refer to the military analysts as 'message force multipliers' or 'surrogates' who could be counted on to deliver administration 'themes and messages' to millions of Americans 'in the form of their own opinions.' ... Don Meyer, an aide to Ms. Clarke, said a strategic decision was made in 2002 to make the analysts the main focus of the public relations push to construct a case for war."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pentagon_military_analyst_program

That said, not all news is untrustworthy, but one can only assume that there was a deliberate attempt from a high level of government to spread lies about the anthrax attacks. We cannot rely on our news media to ask the questions that need answering, even though they are so important and obvious.

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As far as the latest news, the death of suspect Bruce Ivins, his former therapist has claimed he was a homicidal madman.
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‘On July 9, the respondent was in a group, one of our group sessions, and he was extremely agitated, out of control and came into group, and I asked him what was going on. He proceeded to describe to the group a very long and detailed homicidal plan and intention to, that he had bought a bulletproof vest, had obtained a gun, a very detailed plan to kill his co-workers.

That because he was about to be indicted on capital murder charges, he was going to go out in a blaze of glory, that he was going to take everybody out with him. That he had been roaming the streets of Frederick trying to pick a fight with somebody so he could stab them. That they weren't going to take him out without a fight.’
http://www.startribune.com/nation/26212859.html

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0801081anthrax1.html

Meanwhile senator Daschle isn’t satisfied with the FBI:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jK3ePTDtVA2aNAzOUN_AzsD8ScdgD92ATLVO2

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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2008, 05:59:51 am »
This article has some information about the investigation of Dr. Ivins.

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Scientist’s Suicide Linked to Anthrax Inquiry
Published: August 2, 2008. New York Times

WASHINGTON — After four years pursuing one former Army scientist on a costly false trail, F.B.I. agents investigating the deadly anthrax letters of 2001 finally zeroed in last year on a different suspect: another Army scientist from the same biodefense research center at Fort Detrick in Frederick, Md.

 Over the last 18 months, even as the government battled a lawsuit filed by the first scientist, Steven J. Hatfill, investigators built a case against the second one, Bruce E. Ivins, a highly respected microbiologist who had worked for many years to design a better anthrax vaccine.

Last weekend, after learning that federal prosecutors were preparing to indict him on murder charges, Dr. Ivins, a 62-year-old father of two, took an overdose of Tylenol with codeine. He died in a Frederick hospital on Tuesday, leaving behind a grieving family and uncertainty about whether the anthrax mystery had finally been solved.

The apparent suicide of Dr. Ivins, a Red Cross volunteer and amateur juggler who had won the Defense Department’s highest civilian award in 2003, was a dramatic turn in one of the largest criminal investigations in the nation’s history. The attack, the only major act of bioterrorism on American soil, came in the jittery aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks. It killed five people, sickened 17 others and set off a wave of panic.

In the early days after the letter attacks, in September and October 2001, Dr. Ivins joined about 90 of his colleagues at the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases in a round-the-clock laboratory push to test thousands of samples of suspect powder to see if they were anthrax. Later, in April 2002, he came under scrutiny in an Army investigation of a leak of potentially deadly anthrax spores outside a sealed-off lab at Fort Detrick. He later admitted he had discovered the leak but not reported it.

Whether the focus on Dr. Ivins had resolved the case of the anthrax letters was unclear. A federal law enforcement official said that Dr. Ivins had been regarded as a strong suspect and that agents had been nearing an arrest, and a lawyer familiar with the investigation said he believed that prosecutors had planned to charge only Dr. Ivins. The link between Dr. Ivins’s suicide and the federal investigation was first reported on Friday in The Los Angeles Times.

But the Federal Bureau of Investigation declined on Friday to make public its case against Dr. Ivins, noting that evidence was under court seal as part of a grand jury investigation. Officials said they were briefing the victims of the anthrax letters — those who recovered, as well as family members of those who died — and would need to go to court to have evidence unsealed before it could even be summarized for the public.

A lawyer who had represented Dr. Ivins since May 2007, Paul F. Kemp, insisted that Dr. Ivins was innocent and had been driven to suicide by false suspicions.

 “For six years, Dr. Ivins fully cooperated with that investigation, assisting the government in every way that was asked of him,” Mr. Kemp said in a written statement, calling the microbiologist “a world-renowned and highly decorated scientist who served his country for over 33 years with the Department of the Army.”

“We assert his innocence in these killings and would have established that at trial,” Mr. Kemp said. “The relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo takes its toll in different ways on different people, as has already been seen in this investigation.”

Mr. Kemp was clearly referring to the case of Dr. Hatfill, who was the focus of intensive F.B.I. and news media attention in the case beginning in mid-2002 and received a $4.6 million settlement from the government in June to settle a lawsuit accusing the F.B.I. and the Justice Department of destroying his career and personal life with leaks.

Whatever the cause of his suicide, Dr. Ivins had been behaving bizarrely in the weeks before his death. He was hospitalized briefly for depression and, according to a complaint filed with the police, threatened to kill a social worker who had treated him in group therapy, among others, in rants referring to his expectation that he would be charged with five counts of capital murder.

“It’s out of character,” said Norman M. Covert, a former spokesman and historian for the Army biodefense center who served with Dr. Ivins on an animal care committee. “But if the F.B.I. was really leaning on him, what a tremendous load that was on him.”

A spokesman for the Frederick police, Lt. Clark Pennington, said he could not say whether Dr. Ivins had left a suicide note because the anthrax investigation remained open.

Investigators in the huge inquiry traveled to many countries and by late 2006 had conducted 9,100 interviews, sent out 6,000 grand jury subpoenas and conducted 67 searches, the F.B.I. said. But the prime focus steadily narrowed: first to the Army infectious diseases laboratories, apparently linked to the letters by genetic analysis, then to Dr. Hatfill, a medical doctor who had become a bioterrorism consultant, and finally to Dr. Ivins, who worked in the same building as Dr. Hatfill and lived two blocks away from him outside the gates to Fort Detrick.

Two puzzles have haunted investigators from the beginning: the motive of the perpetrator and his skills. Because the notes in some of the letters mailed to news media organizations and two senators included radical Islamist rhetoric, investigators initially believed the letters might have been sent by Al Qaeda.

But the F.B.I. quickly settled on a different profile: a disgruntled American scientist or technician, perhaps one specializing in biodefense, who wanted to raise an alarm about the bioterrorism threat. That theory accounted for the letters’ taped seams and the notes’ use of the word anthrax, a warning that allowed antibiotic treatment — not to be expected from a Qaeda attack intended mainly to kill.

That theory of a biodefense insider placed many scientists at the infectious diseases institute and other laboratories under scrutiny, even as they helped the F.B.I. analyze the anthrax powder in the letters.

“The F.B.I. would be remiss not to look at us, especially those of us who worked with anthrax,” said John W. Ezzell, an anthrax researcher who hired Dr. Ivins at the institute and knew him well. “We were all subjected to lie detector tests. We were all interviewed.”

Mr. Ezzell called Dr. Ivins “intense about his work, but a popular guy.” Asked whether he was aware that Dr. Ivins had become a more serious suspect, Mr. Ezzell declined to comment.

The other puzzle involved the skills necessary to produce the high-quality aerosol powder contained in the letters addressed to the senators, Tom Daschle, Democrat of South Dakota, and Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont.

Scientists familiar with germ warfare said there was no evidence that Dr. Ivins, though a vaccine expert with easy access to the most dangerous forms of anthrax, had the skills to turn the pathogen into an inhalable powder.

“I don’t think a vaccine specialist could do it,” said Dr. Alan P. Zelicoff, a physician who aided the F.B.I. investigation when he worked at the Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque.

“This is aerosol physics, not biology,” Dr. Zelicoff added. “There are very few people who have their feet in both camps.”


Mr. Ezzell said Dr. Ivins had worked on many projects involving anthrax spores and the toxin they produce, including experiments in which animals were exposed to anthrax to test vaccines. But he said the experiments, to his knowledge, involved anthrax spores in liquid and not in the dry powder form used in the letter attacks.

By their own admission, the F.B.I. and the Postal Inspection Service had little expertise in biological weapons in 2001, when they first loosed hundreds of agents on the investigation. Since then, at least 19 government and university laboratories have worked on the investigation, using clues like the genetic fingerprints of the anthrax, and radioactive isotopes in the water used to grow it, to try to trace it to a source.

The source, several officials said, was the infectious diseases institute, where the trail led to just a handful of vials in a single lab.

But the scientific evidence, some of it found using new methods, now may never be tested in a criminal trial, leaving questions about just how compelling it is.

“I would urge the bureau to publish its evidence if it declares the case solved and closed,” said Dr. Claire Fraser-Liggett, the former director of the Institute for Genomic Research, where the anthrax genome was decoded.


On Capitol Hill, where anthrax contamination in 2001 led to the evacuation of many offices, several members of Congress voiced skepticism about reports that the hunt for the anthrax killer might be over.

Representative Rush Holt, a Democrat whose district includes the Princeton, N.J., mailbox where investigators believe the letters were mailed, said the F.B.I. should provide a full briefing.

“What we learn,” Mr. Holt said, “will not change the fact that this has been a poorly handled investigation that has lasted six years and already has resulted in a trail of embarrassment and personal tragedy.”

William J. Broad and Nicholas Wade contributed reporting, and Jack Begg, Kitty Bennett and Barclay Walsh contributed research.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/washington/02anthrax.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp

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« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2008, 03:12:09 pm »
The Justice Dept is doing a press conference right now.  They say its a solid case closed.
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« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2008, 03:23:34 pm »
they say he acted 100% alone..werent the letters sent from all over the country..this seems so convenient.
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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2008, 08:19:20 pm »
they say he acted 100% alone..werent the letters sent from all over the country..this seems so convenient.

He was in govt. custody when he killed himself too, he wasn't at home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGUMWcKAMpI




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« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2008, 02:48:09 pm »


The key smoking gun is the principle murder of Bob Stevens the famed "Bruno Magli" photo editor who certainly had photographic evidence agains the Bush crime syndicate! The only weapon that could both kill off the editor while he awaited confirmations of the identities of person or persons in photos he no doubt had in the archives of American Media/National Enquirer which was the largest private intelligence gathering agency in the United States, AND secure the Archives itself so that the Cointelpro agent of the "FBI" who headed up the closure, raid and cleaning job on the American Media Archives and offices could be accomplished was Anthrax!

Alex tried to say it was something to do with the Bush girls and the old Satanic Bag grandma daughter of a bitch but that is totally irrational

http://www.angelfire.com/ny/syzergy

I wrote this analysis within days of becoming alerted that 9/11 was a false flag BECAUSE OF and BY the Anthrax Murder coincidence (at the time it was the first and only obvious clue) Nobody but US/GB/USSR criminal governments has this shit.

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« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2008, 03:48:24 pm »
The key smoking gun is the principle murder of Bob Stevens the famed "Bruno Magli" photo editor who certainly had photographic evidence against the Bush crime syndicate! The only weapon that could both kill off the editor while he awaited confirmations of the identities of person or persons in photos he no doubt had in the archives of American Media/National Enquirer which was the largest private intelligence gathering agency in the United States, AND secure the Archives itself so that the Cointelpro agent of the "FBI" who headed up the closure, raid and cleaning job on the American Media Archives and offices could be accomplished was Anthrax!

Alex tried to say it was something to do with the Bush girls and the old Satanic Bag grandma daughter of a bitch but that is totally irrational

http://www.angelfire.com/ny/syzergy

I wrote this analysis within days of becoming alerted that 9/11 was a false flag BECAUSE OF and BY the Anthrax Murder coincidence (at the time it was the first and only obvious clue) Nobody but US/GB/USSR criminal governments has this shit.

Don't people see??

They could have killed off Bob Stevens in dozens of ways to silence him, if say he had pictures of Mohammed Atta and the CIA cutout Washington Lobbyist Abramoff meeting on the latter's CIA cutout gambling boat, but how could they get ALL the pictures and identify the American Media source(s)?

Stevens must have made the mistake of asking who someone (or persons) in these Abramoff photo's was to the wrong insider, who he mistook as a confidential friend, before he could determine their value or would go public with any story, most likely he know who Abramoff (and/or other well known military or public figure) was, but not the identities of the Arabs!

The Bruno Magli issue coupled with the unique and outrageous 'secure the scene' type of weapon of mass destruction, timing, and perfectly executed nature of the 'inside job' murder forms an absolutely perfect smoking gun.

The unexplained Florida 'State of Emergency' WELL BEFORE the Daniel Chapter 8 Show of 9/11 takes on new significance when we realize the black op murder must have been on Brother Bush's 'Florida loose ends' agenda.

Bob Stevens was not infected nor where the offices contaminated until the last day before the FBI had to put out pictures of their Fabled hijackers. The timeline matches perfectly with the photo offices contamination/photo editor's murder!

Only a biohazard murder weapon that worked certainly and effectively and posed a massive emergency public health hazard would do the CIA/Bush Mafia's job! And the only one deadly and hazardous enouth to be the CIA's Perfect Weapon for this murder was Anthrax!

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« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2008, 10:09:55 am »
they say he acted 100% alone..werent the letters sent from all over the country..this seems so convenient.

It is true that the decoy anthrax letters to major liberal media offices and important liberal politicians were sent, it seems, mostly from within the huge Arab terrorist ghetto-kingdom of New Jersey, perhaps because gas prices were still rather high at the time. But there is no (at least very little) evidence that the Anthrax Murder of Bob Stevens originated from either sorted mail (coming into the Florida postal station from points remote) or from a letter or document dropped off at the American media offices (by courier for example).

The epicenter of the American Media anthrax appears to have been either Jose Podilla's mail room and/or Bob Stevens office. One would expect that an envelope burst by mail sorting equipment would have contaminated both the Post Office's mail sorting facility/equipment at remote point(s) and the postal substation from where American Media's incoming mail was dispatched/collected, but only minor 3rd degree traces were identified/reported to have been detected there.

This is consistent with the assumption that other outgoing mail passing through the Podilla mail room sent traces out to the postal substation, though it has conveniently never been disclosed in what stream/part of the local post office substation's facilities the traces of anthrax were identified.

Furthermore, unless Mr Podilla, (or should we say the anti-Castro Cuban) who was also the first person to run to a hospital suspecting he had been infected by some mysterious contamination, was in the habit of spindling, slapping, force stacking, crushing, mutilating or opening and/or co-reading employees mail for them, it appears that he is and has long been the 'smoking gun barrel' in the whole investigation.

Thankfully he (and his bank accounts) are still at large.

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« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2008, 10:42:31 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdamOzrfZI0&eurl=http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1796

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« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2008, 10:45:28 am »
I disagree. I live in the UK and I believe WE are the most brainwashed nation in the world. The US has great figures such as Ron Paul, who do we have here in the UK who has the balls Ron Paul has? Rest my case... we're all too dumbed down to do anything about our problem over here.

Living in the UK I really do understand the sentiment.


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« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2008, 11:12:41 am »
In light of how dramatically the History Channel has been transformed in recent years into a glorified propaganda machine for the U.S. government, I can't help but wonder if this is the elite's clever way of arrogantly "throwing it in our face."

    "Yeah, we carry out false flag anthrax attacks against our political enemies. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing, that's what, because you're either too dumbed-down to even realize we're telling you this, or too self-righteous to admit just how badly you've been 'punked' by the very authority figures in whom you've invested so much blind faith over the years. Excuse us, now, while we laugh our f***ing asses off at your expense."

It's all a sick joke, and the American people, as usual, are the punch line.
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« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2008, 11:19:31 am »
In light of how dramatically the History Channel has been transformed in recent years into a glorified propaganda machine for the U.S. government, I can't help but wonder if this is the elite's clever way of arrogantly "throwing it in our face."

    "Yeah, we carry out false flag anthrax attacks against our political enemies. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing, that's what, because you're either too dumbed-down to even realize we're telling you this, or too self-righteous to admit just how badly you've been 'punked' by the very authority figures in whom you've invested so much blind faith over the years. Excuse us, now, while we laugh our f***ing asses off at your expense."

It's all a sick joke, and the American people, as usual, are the punch line.

You speak the truth

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« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2008, 12:00:27 pm »

The anthrax attacks came in two waves. The first set of anthrax letters had a Trenton, New Jersey postmark dated September 18, 2001, exactly one week after the September 11, 2001 attacks. Five letters are believed to have been mailed at this time, to ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and the New York Post, all located in New York City; and to the National Enquirer at American Media, Inc. (AMI) in Boca Raton, Florida.  Robert Stevens, the first person who died from the mailings, worked at a tabloid called Sun, also published by AMI. Only the New York Post and NBC News letters were actually found; the existence of the other three letters is inferred because individuals at ABC, CBS and AMI became infected with anthrax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks



We don't know that an envelope or letter was necessarily the weapon in the AMI murder, only that the mailroom and library employees were also involved or affected.

If so, that explains the traces found in a mailroom container, the mail room guy, and the secretary that also got infected and that traces were also found in one Boca Raton postal facility. But, it would have had to have been mailed very locally, since no other sorting plants or mail that we know of, have been exposed in the Boca Raton area. This seems rather strange, versus the Washington-NJ experiences. If we were to compare the delivery methods, something is very strange indeed, because the other letters all contained very suspicious notes, or outright warnings about their contents, so why was this one unnoticed?

The killer element of surprise had to have been carefully respected in this scenario, as one would always expect! But why? This was not the case in the 'afterthought' attacks...

If, however, the AMI murder was arranged by other means, and was an inside job, that explains why the path-back was not heavily contaminated, and only 1 facility and no postal workers were affected. What if the mailman was infected in Bobs office, or had picked up and brought back a letter that was contaminated from the editors desk? We know that his keyboard was contaminated, so why not the desktop as well? It likely was cleaned long before the investigators arrived. For now, let's leave the repercussions and permutations of this strong suspicion aside!

Cleaners do not normally scrub out trash cans, so why is there no other contaminated 'hot spot' in that office, and no letter?

The anthrax mail started after the hijackers US locales were suddenly all made public. The AMI murder attack time is said to be around (from Bob's infection) September 13-17th. This is also immediately after the images of Atta & Co were published, which strongly raises a "Bruno Magli" issue at the AMI photo department! It can take up to 45 days, but these levels of inhaled anthrax have all gestated within 10-15 days. Bob Stevens noticed symptoms on Oct 2nd, was hospitalized and died Oct 5th. This puts the 1st bio-attack around Sept. 14-17th, the 2nd two letters postmarked Sept. 18, and the last October 9 for Daschle. (Leahey was unknown at time of original writing)

Most curious, indeed, is that Blanco, got nasally-infected with only 'larger' spores, and was the first American hospitalized! If inbound mail was involved, the timing is right, but not the sort of infection! An unopened envelope might leak finer, but not coarser spores! The Al Qaeda manual specifically indicates that paper is too porous (30-70 microns) to be used as an anthrax delivery method: "don't poison the postman" is a direct quote from it! The manual specifies the envelope must be internally painted with silicone sealant to prevent this sort of trouble.


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« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2008, 12:09:06 pm »
Please note corrections, it's been a long time - sorry! :-[

The epicenter of the American Media anthrax appears to have been either Jose Podilla's Ernesto Blanco's room and/or Bob Stevens office. One would expect that an envelope burst by mail sorting equipment would have contaminated both the Post Office's mail sorting facility/equipment at remote point(s) and the postal substation from where American Media's incoming mail was dispatched/collected, but only minor 3rd degree traces were identified/reported to have been detected there.

This is consistent with the assumption that other outgoing mail passing through the Podilla  Blanco mail room sent traces out to the postal substation, though it has conveniently never been disclosed in what stream/part of the local post office substation's facilities the traces of anthrax were identified.

Furthermore, unless Mr Podilla Blanco, (or should mightwe say the anti-Castro Cuban) who was also the first person to run to a hospital suspecting he had been infected by some mysterious contamination, was in the habit of spindling, slapping, force stacking, crushing, mutilating or opening and/or co-reading employees mail for them, it appears that he is and has long been the 'smoking gun barrel' in the whole investigation.

Thankfully he (and his bank accounts) are still at large.

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« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2008, 01:28:13 am »
Senator, Target of Anthrax Letter, Challenges F.B.I. Finding

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/washington/18anthrax.html?ref=us

By SCOTT SHANE
Published: September 17, 2008

WASHINGTON — Senator Patrick J. Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and a target of the anthrax letters of 2001, said Wednesday that he did not believe the F.B.I.’s contention that an Army scientist conducted the attacks alone.

At a hearing of his committee, Mr. Leahy told the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, that even if the bureau was right about the involvement of the scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, who killed himself in July before ever being charged, he thought there were accomplices.

“If he is the one who sent the letter, I do not believe in any way, shape or manner that he is the only person involved in this attack on Congress and the American people,” said Mr. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont.

“I believe there are others involved, either as accessories before or accessories after the fact,” he added. “I believe there are others who can be charged with murder.”


Mr. Leahy, who has received special briefings on the investigation because one of the anthrax-laced letters was addressed to him, later declined to elaborate. “Sorry,” said an aide, David Carle, “but he said his piece and does not intend to comment further today.”

Mr. Leahy was one of several senators at the hearing who raised questions about the bureau’s case. But Mr. Mueller said he stood by the conclusion that Dr. Ivins, who worked at the Army biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick, Md., was solely responsible for the attacks.

Even after the anthrax case is formally closed, a step that officials say is likely in three to six months, “if we receive additional evidence indicating the participation of any additional person, we certainly would pursue that,” Mr. Mueller said.

On Tuesday, Mr. Mueller said he had asked the National Academy of Sciences to convene an expert panel to review the bureau’s scientific work on the case.

But Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, said Wednesday that he did not think that was adequate. Mr. Grassley said the academy “would only be reviewing the science and not the detective work,” and added, “I believe we need an independent review of both.”

The hearing underscored the challenge the bureau faces in persuading Congress and the public that the case is resolved. In the audience was Steven J. Hatfill, another former Army biodefense scientist, whom the F.B.I. pursued as a suspect for several years before the Justice Department cleared him this summer and paid $4.6 million to settle a lawsuit he had filed against the government.

Dr. Hatfill did not speak. But Senator Grassley asked Mr. Mueller: “Should not the F.B.I. apologize to Dr. Hatfill? Please explain how chasing an innocent man for four years was not a mistake.”

Mr. Mueller replied that investigators had done nothing “inappropriate.” The settlement, he said, was not for scrutinizing Dr. Hatfill but for leaking information about him to the news media. “I abhor those leaks,” he said.

Mr. Leahy pressed Mr. Mueller to say what laboratories in the United States were capable of producing dry powder anthrax like that used in the attacks, specifically asking about the Dugway Proving Ground, an Army center in Utah, and the Battelle Memorial Institute, a government contractor in Ohio, both of which have made such powder in small quantities in the past.

But Mr. Mueller said he could answer the question only in a closed session because the matter involved classified information. The secrecy appeared likely to fuel rumors, circulating on the Internet and denied by the F.B.I., that the attacks had some link to a secret government bioweapons program.

Mr. Mueller, F.B.I. director since just before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, was criticized at the hearing by Mr. Leahy and others for what they described as his record of failing to answer in a timely manner the committee’s questions on a broad range of subjects.

But he was praised for what senators characterized as his courage in resisting some Bush administration counterterrorism tactics, including harsh interrogation methods and elements of the National Security Agency’s domestic surveillance program.

“Against intense and hostile pressure from the highest offices in the land,” said Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, “you stood for the principle that all public offices have public duties and responsibilities.”

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« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2008, 01:47:45 am »
Leahy.... although very liberal and i dislike his policies, he really fights Bush's agenda tooth and nail at the Judiary committe. Problem being the other senators are cowards. Leahy has consistantly slammed Bush since he invaded Iraq and destroyed our bill of rights. He is a tough son of a bitch too, if you ever watch him speaking live on Cspan, he reminds me of a Patton in the form of a Politician. Not sure if he would be useful if Obama were in office though, we'll have to see what the tricksters try next.

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« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2008, 02:11:06 pm »
Unbelievable...I searched both these pages concerning the Anthrax attacks and there is not one mention of the Jew PHILLIP ZACK OUTRAGEOUS...Yeah you all know the truth...good job

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« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2008, 12:53:35 am »
Headlined on 9/25/08:
Anthrax Links to 9-11
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Anthrax-Links-to-9-11-by-Barbara-Honegger-080925-678.html



The Scarlet A:  Links between the Anthrax Attacks and 9/11
 
by Barbara Honegger
 
The author is a Senior Military Affairs Journalist, and former White House Policy Analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant to the President in the first Reagan Administration. Ms. Honegger is the author of the 9/11 expose “The Pentagon Attack Papers” http://physics911.net/pdf/honegger.pdf and October Surprise (Tudor, 1989), the first book to reveal the true origins of the Iran side of the Iran/Contra scandal.
 
By insisting that Bruce Ivins, a biowarfare scientist then with the Army’s Ft. Detrick laboratory, was behind the anthrax attacks, the Bush Administration has officially acknowledged that those attacks were perpetrated by a U.S. Government insider -- and not by bin Laden or by Iraq.
 
Likewise, compelling evidence (1) has demonstrated that the mass murders of 9/11 themselves were perpetrated or enabled by U.S. Government insiders. And while it is well known that President Bush has admitted Iraq was not behind Sept. 11, it is less widely known that bin Laden has never been wanted by the FBI for 9/11 on the agency’s ‘Most Wanted Terrorists’ web page. FBI Director Mueller and his chief investigative spokesman, Rex Tomb, have publicly stated that the reason bin Laden isn’t officially wanted for 9/11 is because there is “no hard evidence” linking him to the Sept. 11 plot. (2)
 
Because the Administration has thus admitted the anthrax attacks were perpetrated by a U.S. government insider -- and Sheila Casey and Barry Kissin have shown in the Sept. 2008 issue of The Rock Creek Free Press that they were a true inside job by the CIA (and DIA) and its contractor Battelle Memorial Institute, not a ‘lone nut’ rogue (3) -- if significant evidence links the insider anthrax attacks to 9/11, we can reasonably infer that the same government/military insiders were behind both mass crimes.
 
So what is the evidence linking anthrax to Sept. 11?
 
1) Whatever insiders wrote the letters mailed with the anthrax wanted you to believe they were linked to 9/11. As is well known, the date hand written on the anthrax letters is Sept. 11, 2001. Though the official story -- that the first letter, to Florida photo journalist Bob Stevens, wasn’t mailed until after 9/11 and so anthrax wasn’t part of the actual 9/11 plot -- it’s clear that whoever wrote and dated the letters and added the super-weaponized (3) U.S. military anthrax wanted you to believe there is a direct connection, and that Islamic foreigners were responsible for both.
 
2) Superweaponizing anthrax was one of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld’s top priorities. Two days before  9/11, on Sept. 9, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) held a rare press conference in which it revealed that on his first day as Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld ordered the DIA to take Project Jefferson, a secret and illegal anthrax weaponization program (probably using the Ames strain contained in the anthrax letters) to the next level of lethality and that it had achieved ‘success’ earlier that month in a classified field test. The mainstream press reported this event on Sept. 10, the day before 9/11.

3) Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management (OEM) preplanned a bio/chem-terrorism exercise likely involving an anthrax scenario for which personnel were in New York City on 9/11, and Giuliani's just-recent OEM director urged White House staff to go on anti-anthrax Cipro on Sept. 11. Giuliani testified to the 9/11 Commission that his Office of Emergency Management (OEM) had scheduled a bio/chem-terrorism response exercise, called TRIPOD II, to begin the day after 9/11, Sept. 12. But personnel who were to take part in the exercise were already in New York City on Sept. 10th and OEM personnel were cleared out of their WTC7 offices on Sept. 11 and moved to the exercise command center on a New York pier and thus conveniently out of the building when it was brought down by military-grade thermate explosives on 9/11 -- controlled demolition charges that required weeks to pre-place, the very weeks the exercise was being planned. New Jersey’s Ft. Monmouth, an Army base just across the water from the Twin Towers, also held a ‘II’ exercise, called TIMELY ALERT II, on 9/11 (4), almost certainly coordinated with Giuliani’s TRIPOD II, further evidence that the latter was also scheduled to begin on Sept. 11.
   The then recent director of Mayor Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management, Jerome “Jerry” Hauer -- a bio-warfare expert and one of the signers of the pre-9/11 Project for a New American Century manifesto calling for “a new Pearl Harbor” (such as 9/11) who had been a central player in scripting the TRIPOD II bio-chem attack scenario exercise -- was an expert in the response to building collapses (5) and managing director of Kroll Associates before and on 9/11, the company that managed the WTC7 OEM ‘bunker’ and provided ‘security’ for the World Trade Center, including all three buildings brought down by controlled demolition that morning. He thus oversaw personnel with the complete access needed to pre-place explosive charges. It was Hauer who had advocated, despite the 1993 terrorist attack on WTC1, that Giuliani locate his OEM, from which a response to an expected follow up attack on the WTC would need to be orchestrated, next door in WTC7 (6). The new OEM opened on the 23rd floor of WTC7 in June 1999, where Hauer, its director, had his office. Hauer became a National Security Adviser to the National Institutes of Health on Sept. 10, the very day TRIPOD II personnel arrived in New York City, from which new NIH post he managed the Bush Administration’s ‘response’ to the imminent anthrax attacks, which falsely pointed the finger at Iraq and diverted attention from the true insider anthrax killers. Indeed, it was Hauer who zealously pushed the ‘bin Laden did it and just planes-and-fires brought down the Towers’ official story on CBS News on 9/11 in the immediate aftermath of the attacks before anyone not on the inside could have possibly determined the actual cause of the collapses, taking pains to insist that explosives were not involved, when they were. And according to mainstream press reports and a lawsuit by the conservative government watchdog group Judicial Watch, it was Hauer who personally advised the White House to take anti-anthrax Cipro antibiotics on 9/11 (7). [Other reports state White House personnel were put on Cipro nearly a month before the attacks (8). Did Hauer recommend that White House personnel be put on an anti-anthrax antibiotics on 9/11 because he had reason to believe the 9/11 attacks would also involve anthrax and/or because he had advance knowledge there would be subsequent imminent anthrax attacks?
 
4) The FBI had been told the 9/11 attacks would involve anthrax. On Sept. 11, Janette MacKinlay lived in a fourth floor apartment overlooking what was soon to become ‘the pit’ of the World Trade Center. Her neighbor and close friend Bruno told her later that day or early the next morning that he had been pulled off the street into a bank lobby next to the WTC towers by an FBI agent on the morning of Sept. 11 to protect them from the dust cloud from the collapsing tower, and was told by the agent that “We were told this was going to happen and that it would involve anthrax.” Another FBI agent told a woman about to enter the NBC Bldg. that she should leave immediately because “there are explosives in the building as well as in the WTC.”  Clearly, the FBI had been pre-alerted because their own offices were in the WTC -- in WTC7 -- which, like WTC1 and WTC2, was pre-wired for a controlled demolition take down that day. MacKinlay had the presence of mind to collect the dust from the cloud that poured into her apartment overlooking the ‘pit’, and it is this dust that physicist Prof. Steven Jones has analyzed and in which he found military-grade thermate as well as other high explosives, proving the presence of pre-placed charges throughout the towers to which ‘Al Qaeda’ could not have had access to set.
  Though no anthrax has been reported in the dust -- though it may not have yet been tested for -- if TRIPOD II were at least in part on an anthrax attack scenario, it wouldn’t have used actual anthrax, but an anthrax simulant -- an anthrax-like powder that would disperse through the air in a way similar to the real thing. Experts should be consulted for the chemical composition of anthrax simulants and the dust from the WTC collapses tested for these simulants.
 
5) In the minds of the insider scriptwriters for the Sept. 2001 New York City TRIPOD II emergency response exercise, an attack on the World Trade Center was already associated with bio/chem terrorism. According to respected New York Times science writer William Broad, the plan for the 1993 attack on WTC1, for which alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheihk Mohammed’s nephew Ramzi Yousef is in prison for life, involved a plot to push cyanide into New York City. This is reported in Germs, Broad’s book co-authored with Judith Miller. Though the latter’s credibility has been compromised, Broad remains a respected journalist.
 
6) Rudolph Giuliani bought the Florida-building crime scene of the first anthrax attack. Anthrax was found throughout the American Media, Inc. (AMI) building in Boca Raton, Florida where the first anthrax letter victim, Robert Stevens, worked -- as confirmed by AMI employees whose desks were near Stevens’ whom I have interviewed. A ‘don’t cross’ line was put around the building by the FBI, which had been “told 9/11 was coming and that it would involve anthrax.” AMI was forced to move to another location and put the building up for sale. According to The New York Times, this first anthrax attack crime scene with evidence still in place was then bought (at an anthrax sale price) by former NYC Mayor Giuliani, overseer of the Sept. 11/12 TRIPOD II bio/chem-terrorism probable-anthrax-scenario exercise, who formed a partnership with a decontamination expert qualified to decontaminate the building. Giuliani thus controlled and oversaw the destruction of evidence at both the New York crime scene of the 9/11 attacks, the WTC, ordering the steel containing traces of controlled demolition explosives to be removed, and the crime scene of the first anthrax attack, America Media, Inc, in Florida.
   The FBI had already joined the conspiracy to obstruct its own investigation of the anthrax attacks by “agreeing to the request” of Iowa State University College of Veterinary Medicine in Ames, Iowa to destroy its ‘library’ of over 100 vials of the Ames strain gathered since 1928 necessary for a definitive match against the anthrax in the mailed letters, which library was destroyed on Oct. 12, 2001, one week after Bob Stevens became the first victim. (9) 
   This Florida anthrax is critical because, according to press reports on Ivins’ alleged involvement, the anthrax in the mailed letters -- but not the ‘first’ anthrax sent to Stevens (the FBI claims no letter was found in connection with the anthrax recovered from Stevens’ computer keyboard but assumes a ‘missing’ letter) was traced back to a flask in Ivins’ laboratory. The Stevens anthrax is thus key to proving that Ivins, if he was involved at all, did not act alone, as it does not trace back to his flask, and because it’s the closest in time to 9/11 and so most likely to be directly linked to Sept. 11.
 
   Based on the above, a reasonable case can be made that Giuliani’s Sept. 11/12 TRIPOD II bio/chem. terrorism response exercise was at least in part on an anthrax scenario, using an anthrax simulant; that the letters mailed slightly later with real anthrax may have been written or the text drafted for that exercise; and that Giuliani’s former Office of Emergency Management director and close friend Jerome Hauer advised White House staff to take anti-anthrax Cipro on 9/11 because he was afraid the anthrax attack exercise scenario might be about to ‘go live’ just as both the NORAD hijacked-plane ‘exercise’ and the NRO plane-crashing-into-tower ‘exercise’ had already just ‘gone live’ earlier the morning of Sept. 11 as parts of their 'game' scenarios suddenly turned horribly real.
 
   If the Florida anthrax doesn’t link back to Ivins’ Ft. Detrick flask and Ivins, who worked on vaccines (bio-defense) and not its weaponization (bio-offense) wasn’t behind the attacks -- and neither, the government now claims, was Steven Hatfill whom the Bush Administration just agreed to pay millions of dollars to settle his case -- then who was?  As detailed in the September issue by Casey and Kissin, the key suspects are CIA/DIA contractor Battelle Memorial Institute (BMI); and, individually, William Patrick and Ken Alibek.
 
   Battelle, a bio-defense contractor located in West Jefferson, Ohio, has exclusive control of the Ames strain contained in the mailed anthrax letters (10) and, in partnership with the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency, ran Project Jefferson, the government’s covert bio-weapons program whose goal was to develop hyper-weaponized anthrax like that contained in the mailed letters (11) and which Rumsfeld ordered developed to the next level of lethality on his first day as Secretary of Defense.
 
   William Patrick, a former top bio-scientist at Ft. Detrick and close colleague of former Giuliani OEM Director Jerry Hauer, was the mentor of initial FBI ‘person of interest’ in the anthrax attacks Steven Hatfill. Patrick holds five classified patents and trade secrets, including on how to hyper-weaponize anthrax to the 1 trillion spores per gram contained in the letters mailed to Democratic Congressional leaders Senators Daschle and Leahy (12). After leaving Ft. Detrick, he was contracted by Battelle to research and write a report on how mailed letters could be used as the vector for dispersing weaponized anthrax. (13)  On Sept. 9, two days before 9/11, Battelle contractor DIA announced the ‘success’ of Project Jefferson’s anthrax hyper-weaponization program. Following the Sept./Oct. 2001 letter mailings, some of which were reported to contain anthrax at 1 trillion spores per gram, a footnote in Patrick’s report stating that “We have now arrived at the point where we can purify [anthrax] to the extent of 1 trillion spores in a gram” was removed from publicly available copies. (13) 
 
   William Patrick worked with his close colleague and friend, former Soviet bio-weapons expert Ken Alibek, at Battelle, which also ran Project Clear Vision, a secret CIA program to reverse engineer dry-powder anthrax bombs produced by the former Soviet Union. Patrick and Alibek were the FBI’s first suspects in the anthrax attacks, but the initial FBI investigative team was taken off that focus and replaced by a new team that diverted attention to Hatfill. Director Mueller himself assured a Senator that the FBI “was not investigating, nor intending to investigate, anyone with, or formerly with, BMI [Battelle]." (14)  Battelle is also a contractual partner with BioPort and Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC), and directs the anthrax production and experimentation program at the Army’s Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, the second ‘home’ in addition to Ft. Detrick of the Ames strain contained in the letters. Hauer and Hatfill worked together at SAIC. (15)
 
The inside job anthrax attacks were then used as a pretext for the illegal secret domestic wiretap program and assault on the Constitution.
 
   Given the timing, it is now almost certain that the U.S. government insider anthrax attacks were used as the pretext for President Bush’s illegal warrantless domestic wiretap program for which he signed the first ‘authorization’ on Oct. 23, 2001 – right in the middle of the anthrax terror (16).  Senator John McCain had just gone on ABC TV, on Oct. 18, to push the disinformation that a nonexistent bentonite additive, purportedly marking the anthrax as coming from Iraq, meant that Saddam Hussein was behind the attacks. To this day, the White House still refuses to provide Congress with this Oct. 23, 2001 presidential authorization for its warrantless inside-the-U.S. surveillance program, and for obvious reason. This is the alleged authorization that we now know, from a footnote referring to it in another now-released document, contains Bush’s shocking claim that the Constitution’s Fourth Amendment’s protections against unreasonable searches and seizures do not apply to U.S. military operations conducted inside the United States.
 
   The fact that the Administration continued its secret and illegal domestic spying program long after its was publicly known that the anthrax attacks were the work of one of its own inside military facilities is strong evidence the perpetrators were the same high level officials who used the attacks to justify their illegal surveillance program – the White House itself. Exposing the inside job anthrax mailings as the false pretext for the illegal warrantless domestic wiretap program is thus critical to bringing President Bush and his administration to account for its Reichtag Fire-like attack on Congressional Democratic leaders Daschle and Leahy then pushing for an investigation of the 9/11 attacks and resisting the president’s railroading of the Patriot Act -- the analog to Hitler’s Enabling Act passed in the wake of the Reichtag Fire -- through Congress, as well as for the mass murders of Sept. 11.
 
We have seen the Terrorists, and They are U.S.  It’s time for under oath pre-impeachment hearings -- and pre-court martial hearings -- to interrogate these suspects, and all others who worked with them, to expose who wears The Scarlet A.
 
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Notes
1 The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Expose, by David Ray Griffin, Interlink Books, Sept. 2008.
2 http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
3 “FBI Sweeps Anthrax Under the Rug,” Rock Creek Free Press, Sept. 2008 issue, pp. 1 and 2.
4 http://www.amc.army.mil/amc/pa/oct01.html
5 New York Times, July 27, 1999
6 http://truthmovecom.blogspot.com/2008/07/jerome-hauer-911-suspect-await
ing.html
7 http://www.judicialwatch.org/1967.shtml
8 Crossing the Rubicon, by Michael Ruppert, pp. 505-506.
9 http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/Bioter/theamesstrain.html
10 http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2008/08/project-anthrax-cover-up-p
art-five.html
11 The FBI recently held a ‘science’ briefing for reporters on the Ivins evidence in which it made a 180-degree reversal from the results of lab analyses of the anthrax reported by Ft. Detrick and other scientists and officials in the first year following the attacks. Those early analyses showed the spores in the letters to Senators Leahy and Daschle to be super-weaponized: they were found to be highly uniform, extremely small in size, extremely concentrated at 1 trillion per gram, electrically charged, and with a silica coating. At its ‘science’ briefing, the FBI absurdly claimed that mail processing machines caused the additional powderizing and electrical charge found in the samples -- both coincidentally common results of weaponization.
12 http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/rarey/rarey3.html; “Terror Anthrax Linked to Type Made by U.S.,” by William Broad, New York Times, Dec. 3, 2001.
13 Ibid. (Broad, New York Times, Dec. 3, 2001). 
14 http://www.worldnewsstand.net/news/anthrax.htm
15 www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/open_letter_mueller.html;
    www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/anthrax_espionage.html  16 Further confirmation that the insider anthrax attacks were used by the Bush Administration to justify creating the secret illegal warrantless domestic wiretap program is in “Conflict Over Spying Led White House to Brink,” Washington Post, Sept. 14, 2008, by Barton Gellman.  Note [6] at the end of this article reveals that the very first memorandum giving the purported legal rationale for the wireless domestic taps, by John Yoo, was dated Oct. 4, 2001 – just after published reports of the first anthrax victim, Bob Stevens, and only one day before his death on Oct. 5.  This is contained in Shannen Coffin’s letter to Senator Leahy of Aug. 20, 2007 on the subject of this and other of Yoo’s ‘Top Secret-Codeword’ documents, still not released to Congress.   

 
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« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2008, 06:18:53 am »
Judges throws out contempt order against reporter
By JESSE J. HOLLAND – 11 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal appeals court on Monday threw out a contempt order requiring fines of up to $5,000 a day against a former USA Today reporter who refused to identify sources for stories about the 2001 anthrax attacks.

Toni Locy had been ordered by a judge to personally pay the fines unless she identified officials who discussed Steven J. Hatfill, who was named a person of interest in the anthrax attacks but was eventually exonerated by the Justice Department.

Hatfill, a former Army scientist, sued the federal government for violating his privacy by talking to reporters. Locy was drawn into the lawsuit after she was asked to reveal her sources.

When she said she couldn't remember, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton ordered her to identify all her sources who discussed any aspect of the anthrax case. When she refused, Walton placed her in contempt and ordered the fines.

But since then, Hatfill has been awarded $5.8 million to settle the Justice Department lawsuit.

In another development Monday, U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth ordered the Justice Department to release the information it used to persuade the courts to let it search Hatfill's home. Lamberth said the government's search warrants and supporting documents relating to Hatfill and his then-girlfriend Peck Chegne should be made public.

The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times asked for the materials to be released, contending the public has a right to know why investigators wanted to search Hatfill's home and on what basis the courts agreed to allow those searches.

Five people were killed and 17 sickened when anthrax was mailed to Capitol Hill lawmakers and members of the media just weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

After the attacks, Attorney General John Ashcroft called Hatfill "a person of interest" in the investigation, and stories by various reporters, including Locy, followed. Hatfill had worked at the Army's infectious diseases laboratory from 1997 to 1999.

In Locy's case, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit threw out the contempt order Monday and dismissed the case. However, judges Douglas H. Ginsburg, Brett M. Kavanaugh and Judith W. Rogers said the appeal raised "close questions" about federal evidentiary rules and the First Amendment.

"Because the underlying case has been settled, however, there is no longer 'a pending trial in which' the appellee's request for disclosure 'can be used,'" the judges wrote.

Locy, a former reporter with The Associated Press and other news organizations, now teaches journalism at Washington and Lee University in Lexington, Va.

"I am grateful that the appeals court vacated the contempt order against me but I am concerned that this matter may not be over given statements by Dr. Hatfill's lawyers that they intend to ask Judge Walton to force me to pay Dr. Hatfill's legal bills," Locy said. "The circuit did not deal with that issue and I could face a legal bill that far exceeds the fines that Judge Walton initially tried to levy against me."

Gregg Leslie, legal defense director at the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said the dismissal of the case likely means that Hatfill will not be able to go after Locy for attorney fees.

"To go after someone for attorney fees you have to have substantially prevailed in litigation, and there's no order finding they prevailed," he said.

The panel's decision can still be appealed, Leslie said.

Lamberth said Chegne's search warrant material for her apartment and car should also be released, although she has not made her information public like Hatfill did with his lawsuit against the Justice Department. The judge said there were no "highly intimate or personal details of the kind that would present a compelling interest in not releasing the materials."

Hatfill and Chegne did not appear to argue that the material should be kept private. Justice Department lawyers, however, asked Lamberth to let Hatfill "get on with his life."

"The public has made a strong showing of need for the materials, much of the information is already in the public forum and there is no possibility of prejudice to an investigation or a future defendant," Lamberth said in the opinion. "These considerations, weighed against the government's generalized assertion that Dr. Hatfill has a privacy right to 'get on with his life,' mean that the Times would prevail even under a common law standard."

Bruce Ivins, the Army scientist eventually accused of carrying out the 2001 anthrax attacks, committed suicide in July as prosecutors prepared to charge him in the attacks.

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« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2008, 06:33:05 am »
Ivins did the whole thing?...who doused the AMI building in boca raton..they found ames strain anthrax everywhere...and someone was dousing post offices..theirs no way he did it all alone..he might have done the letters, but this was a larger crime..
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« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2008, 09:42:45 am »
Ivins did the whole thing?...who doused the AMI building in boca raton..they found ames strain anthrax everywhere...and someone was dousing post offices..theirs no way he did it all alone..he might have done the letters, but this was a larger crime..

Of course it was--he was just the patsy.

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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2008, 02:50:51 am »
Everything you need to know about the Anthrax case...

In Lies We Trust: The CIA, Hollywood and Bioterrorism ...
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