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« on: January 26, 2008, 10:53:43 am »


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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 11:01:58 am »
The anthrax letters prove two things conclusively to me. One is, that 9/11 was an inside job beyond any doubt. And two, the people that did 9/11 are so evil and sick that the 9/11 event itself, as disgusting and horrible as it was, was not quite enough. Which means the evil we are dealing with here is more than we can even imagine.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 11:09:22 am »
The anthrax letters prove two things conclusively to me. One is, that 9/11 was an inside job beyond any doubt. And two, the people that did 9/11 are so evil and sick that the 9/11 event itself, as disgusting and horrible as it was, was not quite enough. Which means the evil we are dealing with here is more than we can even imagine.

The hallmark of these, er, "people," is that they can never have enough or create enough misery, death and destruction for others.  They are literally perpetually empty, lost and misdirected things (couldn't really call them "souls," eh?).  They need to be contained for the good of all, including themselves. 


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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 03:01:59 pm »
So the History Channel says: Anthrax = Inside Job, 9/11 = al Qeada.

Usually when I talk to people about 9/11, I start with the anthrax attacks. It's easy to convince people that al Qeada couldn't of possibly have created the most weaponized anthrax ever seen. And haven't used it since then. And it just so happened that it was sent to the two opponents of the PATRIOT Act (Sen. Daschale and Sen. Leary)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks#The_letters
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2008, 03:44:41 pm »
Good find.

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2008, 04:16:24 pm »
I think the history channel might be getting something in the post!  someone in the media with a back bone, fair play to them.  nice find mate, i will forward this to some and they can do the same, 6 degrees of separation , i guess bush and rothey will have it within 6 mails.   

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2008, 04:21:45 pm »
I believe robert stevens was anthraxed at a different location...then they anthraxed the building to make it look like it happened there...
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2008, 05:49:00 pm »
BBC did a documentary on exactly the same thing in like 2002 that covered all that in detail...

I think 2002 maybe 2003 but exact same thing...

The US is the most brainwashed corrupt nation on earth - other nations maybe are more corrupt but none are so brainwashed *and* corrupt...

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2008, 11:39:27 pm »
Considering the History Channel is a Hearst Publishing subsideary, are we seeing a split in the elitists' ranks,... fabian socialists trying to wash their hands of what the fascist have started? Still, the arogance of position precludes them both.

Lady Macbeth puts it so well,
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then, 'tis time to do't.—Hell is murky!—Fie, my
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2008, 11:56:48 pm »
Thanks for that link!  Amazing...I had no clue about this.

Think Rush talked about it on his "show"?  :D

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2008, 02:36:43 am »
Hmmm was that the pentagon I saw that they showed in that film? Hmmmmmmm interesting.. Who will eventually get to go down as the real terroist? I can't wait to see!!!

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2008, 05:49:49 am »
The US is the most brainwashed corrupt nation on earth - other nations maybe are more corrupt but none are so brainwashed *and* corrupt...

I disagree. I live in the UK and I believe WE are the most brainwashed nation in the world. The US has great figures such as Ron Paul, who do we have here in the UK who has the balls Ron Paul has? Rest my case... we're all too dumbed down to do anything about our problem over here.
Why would anyone, who considers their child the most precious thing in the world, let a doctor, they don't even know or trust, inject their child with a substance they know nothing about ?? Just because a government, who they know doesn't give a shit about them, says it's safe.. THAT is insanity

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2008, 06:44:21 am »
http://www.whale.to/a/an.html


CONSIDER THESE COINCIDENCES

- The anthrax attacks were concurrent with the debate of Bush s
Patriot Act by Congress and the media.

- All the senators receiving anthrax letters were trying to amend the
Patriot Act to protect civil liberties and the innocent.

- Two senators received anthrax letters mailed the same day that
Senator Feingold blocked an attempt to rush the bill through without
discussion or amendments.

- Senator Leahy received an anthrax threat after he expressed
reservations about the Bill. As Chairman of the Judiciary Committee,
he managed the debate on the Bill.

- Senate Majority Leader Daschle received the first Senate anthrax
letter as he led the opposition to the original version of the Bill.

- After receiving the anthrax letter, Daschle switched from
supporting a 2 year limit on the Bill, later defending a 4-year
sunset clause as the appropriate balance.

- No Republican received an anthrax letter.

-The House and Senate buildings were closed and not reopened until
after the Patriot Act was passed.

- The Supreme Court was shut down with an anthrax scare the day after
the constitutionally-challenged Patriot Act was signed by President
Bush.

-All the contaminated letters contained the Ames strain of anthrax,
the DNA of which is traced to the original batch preserved in a
university lab in Ames, Iowa. This strain was weaponized  in Utah
into a potent powder with an elaborate secret technique developed at
Fort Detrick, Md.

-The FBI failed to interview Ft. Detrick anthrax experts for two
months into their investigation, doing it only after the experts
complained to the press of  gross incompetence on the part of the FBI.

- The FBI allowed the Iowa state lab to destroy the original batch of
the Ames strain, making tracing the anthrax type more difficult.

-The FBI overruled local homicide detectives who think that an anthrax
expert was murdered, possibly because he knew too much.



The Anthrax story could very well lead us directly into the mysterious deaths of microbiologists from all over the world.I believe that the 93 WTC bombing was just a tester for 9/11.This could mean the Anthrax scare was also a tester for a man made global pandemic probably disguised as Bird Flu.How to murder millions of people and get away with it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2008, 07:46:22 am »
The bottom line is...george bush uses chemical and biological weapons on his citizens; and gets away with it....live with it.. he is king!
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 12:36:36 pm »
So America was hit with an anthrax terrorist attack, and the United States Invades Iraq, because They have bioweapons facilities that are making it. The invasion causes Chaos and death. Turns out Iraq doesn't have anthrax, or Bioweapons facilities making it. So instead of sheepishly admitting what a giant f&*k up this is every presidential candidate (except Ron Paul)says we have to stay in Iraq, or it would cause chaos and death. Meanwhile, it's a proven fact that the U.S. did have bioweapons facilities making anthrax and that's where it came from. But instead of holding those accountable for their sick evil terrorist attack, the U.S. stays in the country that didn't have the anthrax and accuse those that point out the obvious as unpatriotic insane people. That's the world we live in.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 01:07:57 pm »
Oct 10-11, 2001: After consulting with the FBI and CDC, Iowa State University in Ames destroys anthrax spores collected over seven decades. On Oct 25, the White House homeland security director confirms publicly the anthrax letters sent to Leahy and others contained the Ames strain.

November 9, 2001, Friday

NATIONAL DESK

A NATION CHALLENGED: THE INQUIRY
Experts See F.B.I. Missteps Hampering Anthrax Inquiry
This article was reported and written by William J. Broad, David Johnston, Judith Miller and Paul Zielbauer. (NYT)

The federal inquiry into the anthrax attacks has stumbled in several areas and may have missed opportunities to gather valuable evidence as criminal investigators have been unable to fully grasp the scientific complexities of the case.

Government officials, scientists and investigators said the Federal Bureau of Investigation's initial unfamiliarity with the intricacies of anthrax had contributed to a series of missteps and other possible errors.

The F.B.I. came under withering criticism this week in Congress for the lack of progress in the investigation, and bureau officials acknowledged in interviews that they had been forced to turn to outside experts for advice on how to investigate the most serious bioterrorism attack in the nation's history. But they said the inquiry was following a logical strategy.

In a plan announced yesterday by Attorney General John Ashcroft, the bureau, and other parts of the Justice Department, would be revamped to better prevent terror attacks, and the government would use new powers to tap lawyer-client conversations with defendants in terrorist cases. [Page B1.]

Several experts, including some on whom the F.B.I. has relied, said the anthrax investigation had taken some wrong turns.

Shortly after the first case of anthrax arose, the F.B.I. said it had no objection to the destruction of a collection of anthrax samples at Iowa State University, but some scientists involved in the investigation now say that collection may have contained genetic clues valuable to the inquiry.

Criminal investigators have not visited many of the companies, laboratories and academic institutions with the equipment or capability to make the kind of highly potent anthrax sent in a letter to Senator Tom Daschle, the majority leader. Where investigators have conducted interviews, they often seemed to ask general questions unlikely to elicit new evidence, several laboratory directors said.

Just this week, more than a month after the first death from inhalation anthrax, the F.B.I. issued a subpoena asking laboratories for the names of all workers and researchers who had been vaccinated against anthrax. And the F.B.I. is only now establishing electronic bulletin boards to allow members of scientific groups to interact with criminal investigators working the case.

''The bureau was caught almost as unaware and unprepared as the public was for these events,'' said Bill Tobin, a former forensic metallurgist who worked for the F.B.I. crime laboratory in Washington. ''It's just unrealistic to ask 7,000 agents to overnight become sufficiently knowledgeable about bioterrorist agents and possible means of theft of those items and how they might be disseminated lethally to an American populace.''

There is no reason to believe that any of the investigators' actions contributed to their inability to identify clear leads in the anthrax attacks that have killed four people and led to the treatment of thousands of others.

John Collingwood, the F.B.I.'s spokesman, said last night: ''We have a plan and are proceeding based in large part on what the people we are consulting with told us would be the most productive places to begin. We reached out to scientists and public health officials on the best way to proceed.''

Asked about the course of the bureau's investigation, a senior F.B.I. official who spoke on condition of anonymity said: ''This is a learning curve for everybody. Every single day, if not hourly, we're all learning something about this. If you take several weeks back, the learning curve, we were all behind it.''

Evidence Disappears

Last month, after consulting with the F.B.I., Iowa State University in Ames destroyed anthrax spores collected over more than seven decades and kept in more than 100 vials. A variant of the so-called Ames strain had been implicated in the death of a Florida man from inhalation anthrax, and the university was nervous about security.

Now, a dispute has arisen, with scientists in and out of government saying the rush to destroy the spores may have eliminated crucial evidence about the anthrax in the letters sent to Congress and the news media.

If the archive still existed, it would by no means solve the mystery. But scientists said a precise match between the anthrax that killed four people and a particular strain in the collection might have offered hints as to when that bacteria had been isolated and, perhaps, how widely it had been distributed to researchers. And that, in turn, might have given investigators important clues to the killer's identity.

Martin E. Hugh-Jones, an anthrax expert at Louisiana State University who is aiding the federal investigation, said the mystery is likely to persist. ''If those cultures were still alive,'' he said, they could have helped in ''clearing up the muddy history.''

Ronald M. Atlas, president-elect of the American Society of Microbiology, the world's largest group of germ professionals, based in Washington, said the legal implications could be large. ''Potentially,'' he said, ''it loses evidence that would have been useful'' in the criminal investigation.

The F.B.I. says it never explicitly approved the destruction of the cultures, but never objected either.

A law enforcement official said that when approached by the Ames laboratory about the destruction of its anthrax inventory, the Omaha F.B.I. office consulted with the Miami F.B.I. office, which was responsible for the initial anthrax case in Florida. He said Miami investigators, after consulting with scientists, had advised the Omaha office that the Ames strain was so widespread that it had no investigative or evidentiary value. ''Based on that there were no objections,'' to the destruction of the material by the Iowa laboratory, the official said.

Several experts said the episode underscored how the bureau traditionally has had trouble understanding the language, and the demands, of science.

''There's a chasm between what's going on in the courtroom and forensic arena,'' said Mr. Tobin, the former F.B.I. scientist, who has criticized the bureau's investigative methods. The flow of scientific data, he said, ''just doesn't seem to make it'' into criminal investigations.

And a senior federal scientist familiar with the germ investigation added: ''You're still dealing with the mentality that says anthrax is anthrax is anthrax, and doesn't realize that there are deeper signatures.''

Intertwined with the mystery of the Ames strain's history is the question of whether it was used in America's abandoned effort to develop anthrax as a weapon from 1943 to 1969, when President Richard M. Nixon renounced germ warfare.

The scientific literature is contradictory. A 1986 paper by Army researchers said the strain did not arise until 1980. But a paper in 2000 by Dr. Hugh-Jones, Paul J. Jackson of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, Paul Keim of Northern Arizona University and five other anthrax researchers asserted that the Ames strain had played a central role in the biological warfare program in the United States.

If true, that could raise the question of whether the perpetrators of the current crimes had learned of the American recipe or even found and exploited lost anthrax stockpiles.

Caree Vander Linden, spokeswoman for the Army's germ defense laboratory at Fort Detrick, Md., said officials there had not investigated whether the Ames strain was used in the old weapons program.

The Iowa State archive was destroyed on Oct. 10 and 11, after relatively brief deliberations with the F.B.I., said Julie Johnson, an official in environmental and safety at Iowa State.

It is unclear if the F.B.I. understood that Iowa State had destroyed many strains of anthrax or that the origins of the Ames strain were cloudy. Larry Holmquist, a spokesman for the F.B.I. in Omaha, which runs the bureau's Iowa operations, said the rationale for the destruction was that the strain had been ''sent out to numerous places'' around the globe in the past ''40 or 50 years.''

Tom Ridge, the White House director of homeland security, confirmed publicly that the tainted letters contained the Ames strain on Oct. 25, two weeks after the destruction.

Iowa State says it won destruction approval not only from the F.B.I. but also from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which are involved in the federal investigation.

James A. Roth, a microbiologist at the College of Veterinary Medicine who presided over the destruction, said the university's records on its anthrax strains were extremely limited and that the labeling on the vials themselves was often cryptic, leaving officials unsure exactly how many strains the university had.

Even so, ''we think they had all the strains already,'' he said of the F.B.I. and the C.D.C.

The oldest strain in the collection dated to 1928. If the Ames strain was similarly old, experts said, it is conceivable that the potent germs were distributed far more widely than conventional wisdom holds.

Since the destruction, Dr. Roth said, the university has heard nothing from the bureau about anthrax. As for whether the destroyed strains might have clarified the origins of Ames, he said, ''now we'll never know.''

Questioning Scientists

The F.B.I. has been pressing its investigation in New Jersey, where the letters originated.

When two men from the F.B.I. and the New Jersey State Police arrived last month at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology at Rutgers University in New Jersey, scientists there saw it as a natural step in the anthrax investigation.

Staffed with microbiologists familiar with how the deadly bacteria grow and filled with the sophisticated laboratory equipment involved, the institute, just 38 miles from the Trenton post offices where the letters were postmarked, was a natural place for investigators to ask detailed questions.

But the two investigators, escorted by the university's head of security, asked the the laboratory's director, Dr. Joachim Messing, only a few general questions about growing bacteria and never mentioned specifically what they were looking for. Finally, Dr. Messing said, he felt obligated to volunteer that his laboratory did not handle anthrax.

''I couldn't give you a clue what they were after,'' Dr. Messing said in an interview this week. ''I asked the person from the F.B.I. if he knows anything about bacteria, some very simple questions, and it was very clear that he didn't have the background to make evaluations.''

Tracking the F.B.I.'s investigation near Trenton, and beyond, shows that agents seemed to have passed over some potential opportunities for developing leads.

Though investigators are consulting some members of professional organizations like the American Society for Microbiology and the American College of Veterinary Microbiologists, the F.B.I. is only now establishing an Internet bulletin board to permit members of those groups to pass information to the bureau's leadership, a senior F.B.I. official said.

''That's in the works,'' he said.

Top bureau officials also appeared to be unaware of last month's international chemical and pharmaceutical convention, ChemShow, in New York City, which attracted hundreds of chemical and pharmaceutical equipment manufacturers, engineers and technicians.

''If they weren't crawling around that show, they should have been,'' said Richard Barbini, a chemical engineer and salesman for Arde Barinco Inc., in Norwood, N.J., a pharmaceutical equipment maker. ''There's all kinds of people there from many different countries, a lot of people who know a lot'' about what it takes to make anthrax.

The senior F.B.I. official said he was not sure if any agents had attended the show, and a bureau spokeswoman said the agency would not comment on the matter.

In New Jersey, the F.B.I. has been in regular contact with the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey in Newark, which works with infectious bacteria, but special agents have yet to call bacteria experts at the university's Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in Piscataway, said Michael A. Gallo, a professor of environmental community medicine.

F.B.I. officials say that their investigation is proceeding methodically in an uncharted area and that questions will eventually be asked in all appropriate places.

Several microbiologists suggested that agents should focus on companies that sell new and used laboratory equipment that could reduce anthrax to the micron-size particles found in the letter sent to Mr. Daschle's office last month. That equipment would include either a jet mill or a spray dryer, each of which can be used to reduce bacteria into ultrafine, inhalable powder.

Some companies that deal in that equipment said F.B.I. agents had called seeking detailed information, while others said they had been asked only general questions. Others said they had not been called at all.

A sales official at Spray Drying Systems Inc., of Randallstown, Md., a company that sells spray dryers, said the company had not heard from investigators.

But agents from the Boston F.B.I. office visited some companies, including Sturtevant Inc. in Hanover, Mass., which manufactures jet mills, said a company executive who asked that his name not be used.

''He was asking very good questions,'' the executive said of the agent.

Eventually, the executive said, he gave the agent lists of his customers and competitors. ''There's dozens and dozens and dozens of used equipment dealers out there,'' he said. ''Even the F.B.I. doesn't have enough people to track down the number of machines that are in commerce in the world.''

Though they are still compiling a complete list of places anthrax is stored in this country, federal investigators have already visited a number of laboratories, germ warehouses, universities, government agencies and even veterinarians in their search for clues in the anthrax attacks, one federal investigator involved in the inquiry said.

So far, he said, a range of government agencies that maintain anthrax, including the National Institutes of Health and the Food and Drug Administration, have been asked to account for their specimens in detail, and to provide samples to compare with those used in the bioterror attacks.

In addition, organizations like the New Jersey Veterinary Medical Association and the New Jersey Pharmacists Association, which has set up a hotline to the F.B.I. to report large orders for anthrax vaccines, said that at least one of their members had been contacted by the F.B.I.

And at the American Type Culture Collection, a vast bioresource center that sells germs, based in Virginia, Nancy Wysocki, a vice president, said the center had ''a very close working relationship with many of the federal agencies, including the F.B.I.''

F.B.I. agents have also spoken to some pharmaceutical companies, including some based in New Jersey, company executives said. Some have been open with the bureau, others have asked, for legal reasons, for agents to present a subpoena before they would grant access to their files.

''We want to know what you have for anthrax, we want to see the documentation, we want to know who has access to it, where it's shipped from, who works with it, we want to know the protocols,'' said a senior F.B.I. official. ''We're not going to leave these facilities until every question is answered.''

Many university laboratories in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New York have not been contacted in the investigation.

''I haven't seen neither hide nor hair of them,'' said Dr. John E. Lennox, a professor at Penn State University's microbiology department, though anyone interested in producing anthrax could find what they need in his laboratory. ''There isn't anything they would require that isn't in my lab,'' he said.

But Dr. Sulie Chang, chairwoman of the biology department at Seton Hall University in New Jersey, said F.B.I. agents called her several weeks ago, saying that they were contacting biology departments throughout the state.

Dr. Chang said they wanted to know if any students had shown a sudden interest in anthrax. In fact, she said, a student there had given a 15-minute presentation on the topic recently and she gave the agents his name. She said she did not know whether they followed up.

Dispute Over Daschle Letter

The F.B.I. was confronted with differing assessments of the anthrax found in the letter to Senator Daschle, a dispute among experts that illustrates the government's slowly evolving understanding of how to investigate an anthrax attack.

An initial analysis by the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, which specializes in biodefense, found that the material was very pure, very concentrated and highly dangerous. The Fort Detrick laboratory began studying the Daschle letter on Oct. 15 and delivered its first assessment to the bureau that night, a spokesman said.

Two days later, the F.B.I. sent a sample for additional testing to Battelle, a military contractor in Ohio that does secret work for the Pentagon and other government agencies.

Officials said the Army laboratory had irradiated part of the anthrax spores before studying them, a safety technique that leaves their aerodynamic and other characteristics undisturbed.

Apparently unaware that the Army laboratory had irradiated the material, Battelle used a different method, officials said, placing the anthrax in an autoclave and killing the spores with intense pressure and steam. Two officials said that this produced a far lower estimate of the concentration level and prompted Battelle scientists to conclude that the material was more likely to clump together, and thus less likely to waft through the air, than the Army scientists had estimated.

Both laboratories delivered reports to the F.B.I. on Oct. 22. One administration official said Fort Detrick found that the Daschle anthrax contained as much as one trillion spores per gram, much more than had been detected by Battelle.

Scientists quickly recognized that the tests had been conducted differently and agreed that Battelle should do a second study using irradiated material. A shipment was sent to Battelle on Oct. 25, one official said, which subsequently produced estimates similar to those of the Army scientists.

While the different findings created intense controversy in scientific circles, senior law enforcement officials said they had had virtually no effect on their conclusion that the material was very dangerous or on what they had told senior officials.

But officials said senior officials at the Department of Health and Human Services were sufficiently curious about the disagreement that they had asked the Army scientists to discuss their findings in person on Oct. 23. Officials said this week that the incident reflected how unaccustomed the bureau was to managing a complicated investigation that turned on scientific analysis.

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2008, 01:16:19 pm »
Nov 12, 2001—Mar 25, 2002: 13 renowned microbiologists mysteriously die over the span of less than five months. All but one are killed or murdered under unusual circumstances. Some are world leaders in developing weapons-grade biological plagues. Others are the best in figuring out how to stop millions from dying because of biological weapons. Still others are experts in the theory of bioterrorism.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020504globeandmail
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020811nytimes

Nov 12: Benito Que, 52, an expert in infectious diseases—killed in carjacking, later deemed possible stroke.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020504globeandmail

Nov. 16: Don Wiley, 57, one of the world's leading researchers of deadly viruses—body found in Mississippi River.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/22/missing.scientist/

Nov 21: Dr. Vladimir Pasechnik, 64, an expert in adapting germs and viruses for military use—stroke.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/011123nytimes

Dec 10: Dr. Robert Schwartz, 57, a leading researcher on DNA sequencing analysis—slain at home.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A28864-2001Dec11&notFound=true

Dec 14: Nguyen Van Set, 44, his research organization had just come to fame for discovering a virus which can be modified to affect smallpox—dies in an airlock in his lab.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/011212smh

Jan 2002: Ivan Glebov (bandit attack) and Alexi Brushlinski (killed in Moscow), both world-renowned members of the Russian Academy of Science.
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/02/09/26327.html

Feb 9: Victor Korshunov, 56, head of the microbiology sub-faculty at the Russian State Medical University—killed by cranial injury.
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/02/09/26327.html

Feb 11: Ian Langford, 40, one of Europe's leading experts on environmental risk—murdered in home.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020213londontimes

Feb 28 (2): Tanya Holzmayer, 46, helped create drugs that interfere with replication of the virus that causes AIDS, and Guyang Huang, 38, a brilliant scholar highly regarded in genetics—murder/suicide.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020228mercurynews

Mar 24: David Wynn-Williams, 55, an astrobiologist with NASA Ames Research Center—killed while jogging.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020327londontimes

Mar 25: Steven Mostow, 63, an expert on the threat of bioterrorism—private plane crash.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/020326mostowdeath

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2008, 03:39:57 pm »
I've studied this thing up and down, and it's the most obvious evidence of 9/11 being an inside job....................
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=19755.0

 which is why the MSM wont discuss it, and the FBI has blocked releasing any more information including to our own representatives.

http://grassley.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.View&PressRelease_id=952348ef-d946-4b8a-aa56-22e7f4f7c51f

So they can rewrite history and make outrageous and obvious lies.....there were reports all over the place, 1000s of articles about the anthrax being weapons grade...this is just one example....

http://media.www.gwhatchet.com/media/storage/paper332/news/2001/09/10/UWireDcBureau/Anthrax.Keeps.Postal.Workers.On.Edge-135116.shtml

"Officials acknowledge that the strains of anthrax seem to be from the same source. In the case of the letter sent to Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), weapons-grade anthrax was detected."

Fast forward to 2006, when the FBI no longer discusses the case with anybody, and we have this.....
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52662.php

"According to a new report, the 2001 attacks which killed five people and made 17 humans ill, used common anthrax, not military grade anthrax. As it was thought at the time that military grade anthrax was used..."

"It is believed to have been a common anthrax strain and had not been processed to make it more deadly. Even so, the anthrax was still deadly."

This is so blatant and obvious, but these people don't have to work hard at the lieing, the MSM is there as the government tool.

Yup.  Leahy and Daschle were gonna kill the Patriot Act before it ever saw the light of day until those anthrax attacks.  Don't count me among their fans, but they would have done the right thing there.  The Patriot Act is an abomination and its sequel is more of the same.

MSM is mostly a government tool, but we see that the initail five anthrax attacks were sent to MSM offices.  Keith Olbermann also got a faux anthrax attack about the time his Special Comments started to get real good.  Point being, that even the tools need to be kept in line.

The anthrax attacks came in two waves. The first set of anthrax letters had a Trenton, New Jersey postmark dated September 18, 2001, exactly one week after the September 11, 2001 attacks. Five letters are believed to have been mailed at this time, to ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and the New York Post, all located in New York City; and to the National Enquirer at American Media, Inc. (AMI) in Boca Raton, Florida.  Robert Stevens, the first person who died from the mailings, worked at a tabloid called Sun, also published by AMI. Only the New York Post and NBC News letters were actually found; the existence of the other three letters is inferred because individuals at ABC, CBS and AMI became infected with anthrax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2008, 07:38:02 pm »
It's an old article. But it's right there in your face. The U.S. Government has WMD and used it on it's own people in a terrorist attack.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E02E1D71639F937A3575AC0A9679C8B63

U.S. Germ Warfare Research Pushes Treaty Limits

THIS ARTICLE WAS REPORTED AND WRITTEN BY JUDITH MILLER, STEPHEN ENGELBERG AND WILLIAM J. BROAD.

Published: September 4, 2001

Over the past several years, the United States has embarked on a program of secret research on biological weapons that, some officials say, tests the limits of the global treaty banning such weapons.

The 1972 treaty forbids nations from developing or acquiring weapons that spread disease, but it allows work on vaccines and other protective measures. Government officials said the secret research, which mimicked the major steps a state or terrorist would take to create a biological arsenal, was aimed at better understanding the threat.

The projects, which have not been previously disclosed, were begun under President Clinton and have been embraced by the Bush administration, which intends to expand them.

Earlier this year, administration officials said, the Pentagon drew up plans to engineer genetically a potentially more potent variant of the bacterium that causes anthrax, a deadly disease ideal for germ warfare.

The experiment has been devised to assess whether the vaccine now being given to millions of American soldiers is effective against such a superbug, which was first created by Russian scientists. A Bush administration official said the National Security Council is expected to give the final go-ahead later this month.

Two other projects completed during the Clinton administration focused on the mechanics of making germ weapons.

In a program code-named Clear Vision, the Central Intelligence Agency built and tested a model of a Soviet-designed germ bomb that agency officials feared was being sold on the international market. The C.I.A. device lacked a fuse and other parts that would make it a working bomb, intelligence officials said.

At about the same time, Pentagon experts assembled a germ factory in the Nevada desert from commercially available materials. Pentagon officials said the project demonstrated the ease with which a terrorist or rogue nation could build a plant that could produce pounds of the deadly germs.

Both the mock bomb and the factory were tested with simulants -- benign substances with characteristics similar to the germs used in weapons, officials said.

A senior Bush administration official said all the projects were ''fully consistent'' with the treaty banning biological weapons and were needed to protect Americans against a growing danger. ''This administration will pursue defenses against the full spectrum of biological threats,'' the official said.

The treaty, another administration official said, allows the United States to conduct research on both microbes and germ munitions for ''protective or defensive purposes.''

Some Clinton administration officials worried, however, that the project violated the pact. And others expressed concern that the experiments, if disclosed, might be misunderstood as a clandestine effort to resume work on a class of weapons that President Nixon had relinquished in 1969.

Simultaneous experiments involving a model of a germ bomb, a factory to make biological agents and the developoment of more potent anthrax, these officials said, would draw vociferous protests from Washington if conducted by a country the United States viewed as suspect.

Administration officials said the need to keep such projects secret was a significant reason behind President Bush's recent rejection of a draft agreement to strengthen the germ-weapons treaty, which has been signed by 143 nations.

The draft would require those countries to disclose where they are conducting defensive research involving gene-splicing or germs likely to be used in weapons. The sites would then be subject to international inspections.

Many national security officials in both the Clinton and Bush administrations opposed the draft, arguing that it would give potential adversaries a road map to what the United States considers its most serious vulnerabilities.

Among the facilities likely to be open to inspection under the draft agreement would be the West Jefferson, Ohio, laboratory of the Battelle Memorial Institute, a military contractor that has been selected to create the genetically altered anthrax.

Several officials who served in senior posts in the Clinton administration acknowledged that the secretive efforts were so poorly coordinated that even the White House was unaware of their full scope.

The Pentagon's project to build a germ factory was not reported to the White House, they said. President Clinton, who developed an intense interest in germ weapons, was never briefed on the programs under way or contemplated, the officials said.

A former senior official in the Clinton White House conceded that in retrospect, someone should have been responsible for reviewing the projects to ensure that they were not only effective in defending the United States, but consistent with the nation's arms-control pledges.

The C.I.A.'s tests on the bomb model touched off a dispute among government experts after the tests were concluded in 2000, with some officials arguing that they violated the germ treaty's prohibition against developing weapons.

Intelligence officials said lawyers at the agency and the White House concluded that the work was defensive, and therefore allowed. But even officials who supported the effort acknowledged that it brought the United States closer to what was forbidden.

''It was pressing how far you go before you do something illegal or immoral,'' recalled one senior official who was briefed on the program.

Public disclosure of the research is likely to complicate the position of the United States, which has long been in the forefront of efforts to enforce the ban on germ weapons.

The Bush administration's willingness to abandon the 1972 Antiballistic Missile treaty has already drawn criticism around the world. And the administration's stance on the draft agreement for the germ treaty has put Washington at odds with many of its allies, including Japan and Britain.

The Original Treaty


During the cold war, both the United States and the Soviet Union produced vast quantities of germ weapons, enough to kill everyone on earth.

Eager to halt the spread of what many called the poor man's atom bomb, the United States unilaterally gave up germ arms and helped lead the global campaign to abolish them. By 1975, most of the world's nations had signed the convention.

In doing so, they agreed not to develop, produce, acquire or stockpile quantities or types of germs that had no ''prophylactic, protective or other peaceful purposes.'' They also pledged not to develop or obtain weapons or other equipment ''designed to use such agents or toxins for hostile purposes or in armed conflict.''

There were at least two significant loopholes: The pact did not define ''defensive'' research or say what studies might be prohibited, if any. And it provided no means of catching cheaters.

In the following decades, several countries did cheat, some on a huge scale. The Soviet Union built entire cities devoted to developing germ weapons, employing tens of thousands of people and turning anthrax, smallpox and bubonic plague into weapons of war. In the late 1980's, Iraq began a crash program to produce its own germ arsenal.

Both countries insisted that their programs were for defensive purposes.

American intelligence officials had suspected that Baghdad and Moscow were clandestinely producing germ weapons. But the full picture of their efforts did not become clear until the 1990's, after several Iraqi and Soviet officials defected.

Fears about the spread of biological weapons were deepened by the rise of terrorism against Americans, the great strides in genetic engineering and the collapse of the Soviet Union, which left thousands of scientists skilled in biological warfare unemployed, penniless and vulnerable to recruitment.

The threat disclosed a quandary: While the United States spent billions of dollars a year to assess enemy military forces and to defend against bullets, tanks, bombs and jet fighters, it knew relatively little about the working of exotic arms it had relinquished long ago.

Designing a Delivery System


In the mid-1990's, the C.I.A. and other intelligence agencies stepped up their search for information about other nations' biological research programs, focusing on the former Soviet Union, Iran, Iraq and Libya, among others. Much of the initial emphasis was on the germs that enemies might use in an attack, officials said.

But in 1997, the agency embarked on Clear Vision, which focused on weapons systems that would deliver the germs.

Intelligence officials said the project was led by Gene Johnson, a senior C.I.A. scientist who had long worked with some of the world's deadliest viruses. Dr. Johnson was eager to understand the damage that Soviet miniature bombs -- bomblets, in military parlance -- might inflict.

The agency asked its spies to find or buy a Soviet bomblet, which releases germs in a fine mist. That search proved unsuccessful, and the agency approved a proposal to build a replica and study how well it could disperse its lethal cargo.

The agency's lawyers concluded that such a project was permitted by the treaty because the intent was defensive. Intelligence officials said the C.I.A. had reports that at least one nation was trying to buy the Soviet-made bomblets.

A model was constructed and the agency conducted two sets of tests at Battelle, the military contractor. The experiments measured dissemination characteristics and how the model performed under different atmospheric conditions, intelligence officials said. They emphasized that the device was a ''portion'' of a bomb that could not have been used as a weapon.

The experiments caused concern at the White House, which learned about the project after it was under way. Some aides to President Clinton worried that the benefits did not justify the risks. But a White House lawyer led a joint assessment by several departments that concluded that the program did not violate the treaty, and it went ahead.

The questions were debated anew after the project was completed, this time without consensus. A State Department official argued for a strict reading of the treaty: the ban on acquiring or developing ''weapons'' barred states from building even a partial model of a germ bomb, no matter what the rationale.

''A bomb is a bomb is a bomb,'' another official said at the time.

The C.I.A. continued to insist that it had the legal authority to conduct such tests and, intelligence officials said, the agency was prepared to reopen the fight over how to interpret the treaty. But even so, the agency ended the Clear Vision project in the last year of the Clinton administration, intelligence officials said.

Bill Harlow, the C.I.A. spokesman, acknowledged that the agency had conducted ''laboratory or experimental'' work to assess the intelligence it had gathered about biological warfare.

''Everything we have done in this respect was entirely appropriate, necessary, consistent with U.S. treaty obligations and was briefed to the National Security Council staff and appropriate Congressional oversight committees,'' Mr. Harlow said.

Breeding More Potent Anthrax


In the 1990's, government officials also grew increasingly worried about the possibility that scientists could use the widely available techniques of gene-splicing to create even more deadly weapons.

Those concerns deepened in 1995, when Russian scientists disclosed at a scientific conference in Britain that they had implanted genes from Bacillus cereus, an organism that causes food poisoning, into the anthrax microbe.

The scientists said later that the experiments were peaceful; the two microbes can be found side-by-side in nature and, the Russians said, they wanted to see what happened if they cross-bred.

A published account of the experiment, which appeared in a scientific journal in late 1997, alarmed the Pentagon, which had just decided to require that American soldiers be vaccinated against anthrax. According to the article, the new strain was resistant to Russia's anthrax vaccine, at least in hamsters.

American officials tried to obtain a sample from Russia through a scientific exchange program to see whether the Russians had really created such a hybrid. The Americans also wanted to test whether the microbe could defeat the American vaccine, which is different from that used by Russia.

Despite repeated promises, the bacteria were never provided.

Eventually the C.I.A. drew up plans to replicate the strain, but intelligence officials said the agency hesitated because there was no specific report that an adversary was attempting to turn the superbug into a weapon.

This year, officials said, the project was taken over by the Pentagon's intelligence arm, the Defense Intelligence Agency. Pentagon lawyers reviewed the proposal and said it complied with the treaty. Officials said the research would be part of Project Jefferson, yet another government effort to track the dangers posed by germ weapons.

A spokesman for Defense Intelligence, Lt. Cmdr. James Brooks, declined comment. Asked about the precautions at Battelle, which is to create the enhanced anthrax, Commander Brooks said security was ''entirely suitable for all work already conducted and planned for Project Jefferson.''

The Question of Secrecy


While several officials in both the Clinton and Bush administrations called this and other research long overdue, they expressed concern about the lack of a central system for vetting such proposals.

And a former American diplomat questioned the wisdom of keeping them secret.

James F. Leonard, head of the delegation that negotiated the germ treaty, said research on microbes or munitions could be justified, depending on the specifics.

But he said such experiments should be done openly, exposed to the scrutiny of scientists and the public. Public disclosure, he said, is important evidence that the United States is proceeding with a ''clean heart.''

''It's very important to be open,'' he said. ''If we're not open, who's going to be open?''

Mr. Leonard said the fine distinctions drawn by government lawyers were frequently ignored when a secret program was exposed. Then, he said, others offer the harshest possible interpretations -- a ''vulgarization of what has been done.''

But he concluded that the secret germ research, as described to him, was ''foolish, but not illegal.''


The authors have reported on biological weapons for The New York Times and based this article on material gathered for their book, ''Germs: Biological Weapons and America's Secret War,'' which is being published this month by Simon & Schuster Inc.




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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2008, 09:25:02 pm »
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2008, 05:24:16 pm »

Oh... NOW i get it ....sorta...i think...kinda
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2008, 10:13:28 pm »
Wow that is quite the diagram! After spending 10 minutes staring at it, I am not really sure exactly exactly how all the blocks link to one another based of specific factors or events.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2008, 03:04:17 am »
"You can bring the people to the Gulags.  Have them see with their own eyes.  Have them touch the walls and hear the sounds and smell the death.  They will not believe it until after they are told 'it is for you.'"


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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2008, 09:01:43 pm »
from: http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,342852,00.html

FBI Focusing on 'About Four' Suspects in 2001 Anthrax Attacks
Friday , March 28, 2008

By Catherine Herridge and Ian McCaleb



 WASHINGTON —

The FBI has narrowed its focus to "about four" suspects in the 6 1/2-year investigation of the deadly anthrax attacks of 2001, and at least three of those suspects are linked to the Army’s bioweapons research facility at Fort Detrick in Maryland, FOX News has learned.

Among the pool of suspects are three scientists — a former deputy commander, a leading anthrax scientist and a microbiologist — linked to the research facility, known as USAMRIID.

The FBI has collected writing samples from the three scientists in an effort to match them to the writer of anthrax-laced letters that were mailed to two U.S. senators and at least two news outlets in the fall of 2001, a law enforcement source confirmed.

The anthrax attacks began shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, further alarming a nation already reeling from the deaths of 3,000 Americans. Five people were killed and more than a dozen others were infected by the deadly spores in the fall of 2001.

A leading theory is that the anthrax was stolen from Fort Detrick and then sealed inside the letters. A law enforcement source said the FBI is essentially engaged in a process of elimination.

Much of the early public focus fell on a Fort Detrick scientist named Steven Hatfill, who is suing federal authorities for identifying him as a person of interest. Now the FBI is focusing on other scientists at the facility.

"Fort Detrick is run by the United States Army. It's the most secure biological warfare research center in the United States," a bioterrorism expert told FOX News.

Asked to comment on the likelihood that the anthrax originated at the facility, the expert said:

"It's not suprising, except that it would underscore that there was serious security deficiencies that existed at one time at Fort Detrick — the ability of researchers to smuggle out some type of very sophisticated anthrax weapon and in some quantity. And, nevertheless, it was possible."

In December 2001, an Army commander tried to dispel the possibility of a connection to Fort Detrick by taking the media on a rare tour of the base. The commander said the Army used only liquid anthrax, not powder, for its experiments.

"I would say that it does not come from our stocks, because we do not use that dry material," Maj. Gen. John Parker said. The letters that were mailed to the media and Sens. Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy all contained powdered anthrax.

But in an e-mail obtained by FOX News, scientists at Fort Detrick openly discussed how the anthrax powder they were asked to analyze after the attacks was nearly identical to that made by one of their colleagues.

"Then he said he had to look at a lot of samples that the FBI had prepared ... to duplicate the letter material," the e-mail reads. "Then the bombshell. He said that the best duplication of the material was the stuff made by [name redacted]. He said that it was almost exactly the same … his knees got shaky and he sputtered, 'But I told the General we didn't make spore powder!'"

Asked for comment, an Army spokeswoman referred all calls to the FBI. The FBI would not comment about the pool of suspects, but a spokeswoman said the investigation clearly remains a priority
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2008, 04:51:27 pm »


An Excerpt from 9/11: The Great Illusion

In the weeks after 9/11, anonymous letters and packages were sent to several unsuspecting people filled with the deadly anthrax powder.  Senator Tom Daschle's office was the most publicized location to receive this deadly surprise.  Six people from around the country were killed by this insane scheme.  Of course, the corporate media at first blamed Al-Qaeda and the the 'experts' from the CFR, scratched their chins, and shifted the focus to Saddam Hussein - the word was now out - "We have to stop Iraq."  Later on, when scientific analysis was made showing that this particular strain was a technologically superior anthrax, that was ten times finer in micron size than the finest known grade of Soviet anthrax, with an additive that was only made at an American weapons laboratory, the talking heads suddenly dropped the issue like a hot potato.

The sales of Cipro, an expensive designer antibiotic went through the roof, making the parent company hundreds of millions.  Later, it was learned that President Bush and his inner circle had all been put on Cipro a month before 9/11 ...

As a sad postscript - eighteen prominent biologists and virologists from around the world, who may have had knowledge about the origins of the type of anthrax, have all mysteriously died between September 15, 2001 and November 20, 2002.

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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2008, 11:15:19 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdamOzrfZI0&eurl=http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1796

Well, there you have it. Nice clip. So some people can't face the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job, OK, well the lies and disinfo that have sprung up around so called 9/11 truth don't help...but the anthrax attacks are a dead giveaway, WMD and Iraq lies, military commissions act, on and on..as a former republican sheep, I understand that people don't believe this...but frankly at this point my patience and understanding have run out. There is no longer ANY excuse for being ignorant.
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2008, 11:17:44 pm »

Usually when I talk to people about 9/11, I start with the anthrax attacks.
Good approach. It's impossible to argue against.
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2008, 11:33:52 pm »
So America was hit with an anthrax terrorist attack, and the United States Invades Iraq, because They have bioweapons facilities that are making it. The invasion causes Chaos and death. Turns out Iraq doesn't have anthrax, or Bioweapons facilities making it. So instead of sheepishly admitting what a giant f&*k up this is every presidential candidate (except Ron Paul)says we have to stay in Iraq, or it would cause chaos and death. Meanwhile, it's a proven fact that the U.S. did have bioweapons facilities making anthrax and that's where it came from. But instead of holding those accountable for their sick evil terrorist attack, the U.S. stays in the country that didn't have the anthrax and accuse those that point out the obvious as unpatriotic insane people. That's the world we live in.

Yes, everything that Bush has accused the countries we have invaded of doing, our own government is doing to us and everyone else.  When he refers to them as the terrorist, he's talking about himself and company.  When he says they hate us for our feedoms, he's talking about himself and company hating us and our feedoms.  When he says they want to kill us, he and company want to kill us.  When he said Iraq had WMD's, he and company have those WMD's.  If congress doesn't let them do what they want, then they'll blow up the f'ing world.  This is the leader that some of the American people wanted and now look where we are.  Why didn't he get an anal probe like they are doing to the candidates running now, oh except for McCrackin, he can do whatever he pleases.  Why didn't people look at Bush's track record?  Anyway it doesn't matter anyway, he didn't win fairly but he was the chosen one.  Now we live in a f'ud up world that we'll probably never get back our freedoms.  I apologize, I'm just pissed.

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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2008, 11:44:22 pm »
Yes, everything that Bush has accused the countries we have invaded of doing, our own government is doing to us and everyone else.  When he refers to them as the terrorist, he's talking about himself and company.  When he says they hate us for our feedoms, he's talking about himself and company hating us and our feedoms.  When he says they want to kill us, he and company want to kill us.  When he said Iraq had WMD's, he and company have those WMD's.  If congress doesn't let them do what they want, then they'll blow up the f'ing world.  This is the leader that some of the American people wanted and now look where we are.  Why didn't he get an anal probe like they are doing to the candidates running now, oh except for McCrackin, he can do whatever he pleases.  Why didn't people look at Bush's track record?  Anyway it doesn't matter anyway, he didn't win fairly but he was the chosen one.  Now we live in a f'ud up world that we'll probably never get back our freedoms.  I apologize, I'm just pissed.
It wouldn't have mattered. You think President Leiberman would have made a difference?(Gore woulda probably been knocked off or introduced to a bullet like Reagan)yea I'm pissed too, because this anthrax thing is so f**kin obvious.
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2008, 11:55:40 pm »
Yeah, it's obvious alright.  They had to spent a ton of money and time to get to the bottom of someone's sexlife but some anthrax gets mailed out to people in congress and oh no big deal, nothing to see here, move on people.

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« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2008, 12:10:24 am »
Just like the biggest clue to Bush being behind 9/11 was him sitting in that chair in the classroom for 15 min or so and continued reading my pet goat after being told that both towers were hit.

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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2008, 03:24:22 am »
Just like the biggest clue to Bush being behind 9/11 was him sitting in that chair in the classroom for 15 min or so and continued reading my pet goat after being told that both towers were hit.

Lets not forget aiding and a bedding when he ordered the Bin Laden family out of the States.
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« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2008, 08:58:23 pm »
From former press secretary Scott Mcclellans book...

http://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-Washingtons-Culture-Deception/dp/1586485563/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214530192&sr=8-1

Pages 110-111...

Brian Ross, a highly respected investigative reporter for ABC News, led the newscast that night stating that he had learned from "three well placed but separate sources" that initial tests had found the chemical additive bentonite in the anthrax, and that the only country known to have used this substance to produce biological weapons was Iraq. Bentonite, Ross reported, was "a trademark of Saddam Hussein's biological weapons program." Peter Jennings indicated that some would conclude this was "a smoking gun" linking the anthrax attacks to Iraq.

In the book Mcclellan says that Arie Fleischer(his predecessor)tried to tell ABC News that was not right, and ABC eventually backed off that angle but never issued a retraction.

The whole point of the anthrax attacks was to get Americans scared of mythical piles of anthrax that Saddam wanted to kill us with. To build a case to go to war. The media(as usual)helped them with the psy-op on the American people.

My question to Brian Ross of ABC News.....Do you like being the Governments little whore? Why don't you tell us who these three well placed sources are?
Afraid of giving up sources? Sources that lied to you in order to lie to the American People to go to War? Gee...can't give that up...so keep your little secrets and keep feeding the masses B**S**T.

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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2008, 08:03:02 pm »
Hatfill hits jackpot.............


from: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-06-27-anthrax-settlement_N.htm

By Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Former Army scientist Steven Hatfill, named by federal authorities as a person of interest in the 2001 anthrax attacks, will be paid nearly $6 million by the Justice Department to settle a contentious legal fight that has been raging for six years.
Hatfill had charged that the Justice Department violated his privacy by naming him as a possible suspect in the attacks that killed five people.

"The settlement announced today closes a very unhappy chapter in this nation's public life," Hatfill's lawyers said in a written statement.

"Our government failed us, not only by failing to catch the anthrax mailers but by seeking to conceal that failure. Our government did this by leaking gossip, speculation, and misinformation to a handful of credulous reporters."

Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the settlement was in "the best interests of the United States," adding that the payment should not be interpreted as an admission of any violation of the federal Privacy Act.

"The government remains resolute in its investigation into the anthrax attacks," Roehrkasse said. "We commend the agents and law enforcement personnel who have devoted countless hours to the pursuit of the perpetrator of this horrible crime, and we reassure the public and the victims that this investigation remains among the department's highest law enforcement priorities."

Hatfill's legal fight had far-reaching implications beyond a narrow privacy complaint against the government. In support of his claim, Hatfill's lawyers also waged a challenge to the First Amendment by demanding that reporters identify confidential sources who named the scientist "a person of interest" in the federal investigation.

Six reporters were subpoenaed to disclose government sources. Four of the reporters obtained waivers, allowing them to identify the officials.

At the time of the settlement announced Friday, former USA TODAY reporter Toni Locy was appealing a federal contempt order that threatened to require her to pay up to $5,000 a day for refusing to identify sources.


'DRASTIC ACTION': Judge holds reporter in contempt in anthrax case
A federal judge also was considering a contempt order against a former CBS News reporter.

In light of the settlement, Hatfill attorney Patrick O'Donnell said that Locy's testimony is no longer needed.

"I hope this means that this ordeal is over and that I can get on with my life," said Locy, now a college journalism professor. "I am pleased that Dr. Hatfill no longer needs my testimony."

The agreement announced Friday contained no finding against media organizations nor did it require the media organizations to make any payments to Hatfill.

Still, Hatfill's lawyers directed strong criticism at journalists who, the attorneys said, "failed us by putting aside their professional skepticism and shoveling the leaked information all too willingly into publications without questioning the accuracy of the information, the motives of the leakers or the fairness of the government's attacks."

Hatfill was publicly identified as a possible suspect in 2002 by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft. The scientist was never charged.

Under terms of the agreement outlined in court documents, the Justice Department will pay Hatfill $2.8 million in cash and $3 million in an annuity to paid in equal installments over 20 years.

The anthrax attacks came shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks on passenger aircraft that crashed in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. Spores of the deadly substance were mailed to news organizations and members of Congress. The crime has not been solved.
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2008, 06:02:52 am »
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Seven_years_on_no_answer_from_0716.html

Seven years on, no answer from White House on anthrax attacks
07/16/2008 @ 2:28 pm
Filed by Eric Brewer


It's been almost seven years since — in the weeks immediately following 9/11 — anthrax powder sent through the mail killed five people, threatened the lives of two Democratic senators, terrorized the entire nation, and helped prod a panicky Congress into passing the so-called Patriot Act.

In the intervening years, not only has the killer remained free, but missteps in the investigation have had major negative consequences. Just last month, in fact, the Department of Justice agreed to pay $4.6 million to former bioweapons expert Stephen Hatfill to settle a lawsuit Hatfill brought against the Justice Department, the FBI, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft for destroying his reputation and career by publicly implicating him in the case. And Glenn Greenwald has pointed out that in 2001, ABC News was fed false information by several "well-placed sources" (presumably officials in the Bush administration) suggesting an Iraq-anthrax link. That imaginary link was widely cited by pro-war cheerleaders.

At Monday's White House briefing, I asked if President Bush was satisfied with the progress of the investigation into the attacks. Press Secretary Dana Perino told me that she didn't even "know if he has had an update on it."

Here is our exchange:

Q Is the president satisfied with the progress of the investigation into the anthrax attacks?

MS. PERINO: I don't know if he has had an update on it. But obviously this is something that the FBI is doing. We don't do the investigation from the White House.

Q Well, is he following the progress?

MS. PERINO: You know, I'm sure he -- he gets updated by Director Mueller once a week on a variety of issues. And if that comes up, I'm sure he gets an update.

Q You don't know if he's satisfied with the progress?

MS. PERINO: I don't.

One reason I thought the White House might need to be reminded of this issue is because as recently as last January, in his 2008 State of the Union address, the President appeared to have completely forgotten about the attacks, stating, "We are grateful that there has not been another attack on our soil since 9/11." The anthrax letters, of course, were postmarked on September 18 and October 9, 2001, one to four weeks after 9/11. In his radio address to the nation on November 3, 2001, Bush called them "a second wave of terrorist attacks," and promised that "we will solve these crimes, and we will punish those responsible."

But just a few months later, the White House was already stalling. Asked about the pace of the investigation on February 25, 2002, then-Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said, "The President would like to get this, obviously, resolved as quickly as is possible. The pace of justice is a methodical one...the President believes the FBI is doing a good, solid job."

The question didn't come up again at a White House briefing until more than three years later, when a reporter asked Scott McClellan, "Why have we not found the person or persons responsible for the anthrax attacks of 2001?" Scott's reply: "That's a matter that remains a priority. It remains under investigation. The FBI continues to pursue it."

So it's incredible that now, after three more years, all the White House spokesperson has to say is, "If that comes up, I'm sure he gets an update." Not "he believes the FBI is doing a good job." Not even "that matter remains a priority." Just "if it comes up, he gets an update."

That's simply unacceptable. Why isn't THE PRESIDENT bringing it up? And almost as bad, why hasn't the establishment media pressed the administration harder on this issue? Especially after this story by David Willman in the L.A. Times revealed that Justice Department officials kept the investigation focused on Hatfill for almost five years, even though investigators never found any evidence linking him to the attacks, and that many experts who have been involved in the case now believe that it will never be solved.

When the Ramsey family was cleared in the JonBenet case, the media went wild. I can only suppose that one more Bush failure is no longer considered newsworthy.

The preceding article was a White House report from Eric Brewer, who will periodically attend White House press briefings for Raw Story. Brewer is also a contributor at BTC News. He was the first reporter to ask about the Downing Street memo and the Pentagon analysts scandal at White House briefings.

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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2008, 12:50:28 pm »
This video got removed from youtube?  What happened?!

Copyright issue probably.