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Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« on: September 22, 2007, 05:17:17 am »
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Feds Target Blackwater in Weapons Probe
 
By MATTHEW LEE
Associated Press Writer
WRAL TV, Raleigh Durham NC
Sep. 21, 2007

WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh, North Carolina, is handling the investigation with help from Pentagon and State Department auditors, who have concluded there is enough evidence to file charges, the officials told The Associated Press. Blackwater is based in Moyock, North Carolina

A spokeswoman for Blackwater did not return calls seeking comment Friday. The U.S. attorney for the eastern district of North Carolina, George Holding, declined to comment, as did Pentagon and State Department spokesmen.

Officials with knowledge of the case said it is active, although at an early stage. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, which has heightened since 11 Iraqis were killed Sunday in a shooting involving Blackwater contractors protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad.

The officials could not say whether the investigation would result in indictments, how many Blackwater employees are involved or if the company itself, which has won hundreds of millions of dollars in government security contracts since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, is under scrutiny.

In Saturday's editions, The News & Observer of Raleigh reported that two former Blackwater employees - Kenneth Wayne Cashwell of Virginia Beach, Virginia, and William Ellsworth "Max" Grumiaux of Clemmons, North Carolina - are cooperating with federal investigators.

Cashwell and Grumiaux pleaded guilty in early 2007 to possession of stolen firearms that had been shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, and aided and abetted another in doing so, according to court papers viewed by The Associated Press. In their plea agreements, which call for a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, the men agreed to testify in any future proceedings.

Calls to defense attorneys were not immediately returned Friday evening, and calls to the telephone listings for both men also were not returned.

The News & Observer, citing unidentified sources, reported that the probe was looking at whether Blackwater had shipped unlicensed automatic weapons and military goods to Iraq without a license.

The paper's report that the company itself was under investigation could not be confirmed by the AP.

Meanwhile, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ordered a review of security practices for U.S. diplomats in Iraq following a deadly incident involving Blackwater USA guards protecting an embassy convoy.

Rice's announcement came as the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad resumed limited diplomatic convoys under the protection of Blackwater outside the heavily fortified Green Zone after a suspension because of the weekend incident in that city.

In the United States, officials in Washington said the smuggling investigation grew from internal Pentagon and State Department inquiries into U.S. weapons that had gone missing in Iraq. It gained steam after Turkish authorities protested to the U.S. in July that they had seized American arms from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, rebels.

The Turks provided serial numbers of the weapons to U.S. investigators, said a Turkish official.

The Pentagon said in late July it was looking into the Turkish complaints and a U.S. official said FBI agents had traveled to Turkey in recent months to look into cases of missing U.S. weapons in Iraq.

Investigators are determining whether the alleged Blackwater weapons match those taken from the PKK.

It was not clear if Blackwater employees suspected of selling to the black market knew the weapons they allegedly sold to middlemen might wind up with the PKK. If they did, possible charges against them could be more serious than theft or illegal weapons sales, officials said.

The PKK, which is fighting for an independent Kurdistan, is banned in Turkey, which has a restive Kurdish population and is considered a "foreign terrorist organization" by the State Department. That designation bars U.S. citizens or those in U.S. jurisdictions from supporting the group in any way.

The North Carolina investigation was first brought to light by State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard, who mentioned it, perhaps inadvertently, this week while denying he had improperly blocked fraud and corruption probes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Krongard was accused in a letter by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-California, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, of politically motivated malfeasance, including refusing to cooperate with an investigation into alleged weapons smuggling by a large, unidentified State Department contractor.

In response, Krongard said in a written statement that he "made one of my best investigators available to help Assistant U.S. Attorneys in North Carolina in their investigation into alleged smuggling of weapons into Iraq by a contractor."

His statement went further than Waxman's letter because it identified the state in which the investigation was taking place. Blackwater is the biggest of the State Department's three private security contractors.

The other two, Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, are based in Washington's northern Virginias suburbs, outside the jurisdiction of the North Carolina's attorneys.

Associated Press writers Mike Baker in Raleigh and Desmond Butler and Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington contributed to this report.

http://wral.com/news/political/story/1848643/

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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2007, 07:22:30 am »
Has anything come of the lies were spun about WMD's in Iraq.
Even though Collins recently amitted  publicaly it was a blatant lie to invade Iraq. Nope.
This gives me pause, around million human beings massacred in Iraq and nothing is done, it does not appear to me that Blackwater will answer for these crimes, the spins will get them out of it, or a few fall guys, remember they are backed by the Bushies and the elite, at our expense I might add.
These parasites have murdered a president, why, he saw the MIC going balls deep in Vietnam and wanted to end it. Then of course the key to this scam ol OZY the supposed assassin was shot and killed by a known gangster Jack the Ruby, the truth got buried with Oswald. Then Jack Ruby, checked daily in great physical condition is to be transfered from Dallas to another facilty, he is found dead the day before, the truth is buried again.
If they can pull this of, 911, wmds, invasion of a soveriegn nation, mass murder, crimes against humanity, Constitutional disregard and bill of rights, they most certainly get away with this.

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2007, 02:41:36 am »
Chris,
you hit the nail sqaure on the head!

Not only will they get away with it, but the criminals are laughing all the way to the bank about this entire travesty!

Revolution is the only way to stop the madness!

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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2007, 03:56:40 am »

Video:
According to this report (see links below) BlackWater has 180,000 mercenaries in Iraq and the U.S. military doesn’t report any of them as casualties if they get killed. Then they can "spin it" and state less military people are being killed. They also report that BlackWater "troops" can NOT be tried in court.

Plus it sounds looks like BlackWater could be used here in the U.S.A. as well; see the second video below it says Black Water was in New Orleans…






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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 08:47:55 pm »
Hi Agua T.

I read your post and i agree.
Chris,
you hit the nail sqaure on the head!

Not only will they get away with it, but the criminals are laughing all the way to the bank about this entire travesty!

Revolution is the only way to stop the madness!//////////////////
I must add one thing, without the  upper echelon personalitys, either political, military, justice, etc, on the side of an internal domestic revolution, we get fingered and nailed. We are the minority, they would want this, isolate and exterminate or throw us in camps and feed us thorozine or chlorine or whatever mix they have. Please remember the silent Majority, they will go along without anything to protect their illusions, or the sadistic desires if thats their slant. The news media, if we can call it that, would label us as terroist sympathisers, rabble rousers, or whatever term they would spin. The deck is stacked. Stalin and Hitler were well educated in this form of takeover. Remember what Stalin said , one death is a tragedy, 10,000 is but a number...
A politician told me the only way to save this nation is a revolution from within, this was 30 years past.

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"Gun Running" Blackwater back on the job…
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2007, 03:10:24 am »


"Gun Running" Blackwater back on the job… Arms Smuggling Investigation into Blackwater…






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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2007, 08:16:35 am »
Balckwater owned aircraft are among those used by the CIA for prisoner rendition flights, now totaling 12,000 reported in Europe alone, to foreign countries for torture interrogation.  (An old list from December of 2005. http://www.rense.com/general69/morecia.htm  )

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Blackwater Mercenaries: Coming Soon to Your Town

Kurt Nimmo | September 12 2005
It is now obvious how martial law (not officially declared as such) will work in America in the wake of the devastation of New Orleans.

 Instead of federal troops or an influx of National Guard troops sent to “restore order” (the latter mandated in our now anachronistic Constitution; see Article 1, Section 8) and empowered to “suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions,” in Louisiana the state and federal governments have brazenly violated the Constitution by sending in Blackwater Security and other private goon squads. “Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans,” write Jeremy Scahill and Daniela Crespo. “Some of the mercenaries say they have been ‘deputized’ by the Louisiana governor; indeed some are wearing gold Louisiana state law enforcement badges on their chests and Blackwater photo identification cards on their arms. They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and have been given the authority to use lethal force.”

Soon after Katrina slammed into New Orleans, the media reported the presence of Blackwater goons (and have no doubt, Blackwater hires “special ops types from South Africa’s former apartheid regime,” according to James Ridgeway and others, people fairly characterized as murderous paramilitary goons). Initially, it was reported that Blackwater was hired to protect the property of New Orleans’ rich elite (and hotels and other businesses), but soon the company admitted it was “helping the U.S. Coast Guard Sept. 1 with search-and-rescue missions, lending one of its Puma helicopters for the missions…. [and] protecting facilities that house ‘priceless art pieces’ and special landmarks” from “looters” who were mostly interested in water and food, not priceless art. “We are preparing for a rather long deployment for this work,” Jack Serpas, who works for Securitas Security Services USA Inc., another “security” firm, told Marguerite Higgins of the Washington Post on September 10.

“As the threat of forced evictions now looms in New Orleans and the city confiscates even legally registered weapons from civilians, the private mercenaries of Blackwater patrol the streets openly wielding M-16s and other assault weapons,” note Scahill and Crespo, a fact that runs counter to Police Commissioner Eddie Compass’ assertion that only New Orleans law enforcement would carry and use weapons. In standard Bushian fashion, the Ministry of Homeland Security has feigned ignorance of this invasion of private security company goons in New Orleans. “A spokesperson for the Homeland Security Department, Russ Knocke, told the Washington Post he knows of no federal plans to hire Blackwater or other private security,” write Scahill and Crespo.

It’s like a scene out of Sinclair Lewis’ dystopic novel, It Can’t Happen Here. “Gun toting militias terrorize the nation at a local level, with the redneck morons handed leadership roles in every community, with the right to summarily execute people who say the wrong thing. Resistors are threatened with imprisonment or death if they don’t go public supporting the party line,” opines Rob Kall for Op-Ed News. “Lewis wrote his book in 1937, having see Hitler’s rise to Power. We’ve seen many articles describing how similarly the Bush administration has operated, starting with When Democracy Failed by Thom Hartmann. In 2002, Hartmann’s article seemed to reek of conspiracy theory and paranoia to some. Now, it is a frightening portent, characterizing too many parallels suggesting that we are much further along the dangerous road that Sinclair Lewis created as a fiction.” Kall continues:

An American city is under military rule, with citizens being dragged and handcuffed out of their homes, helpless, frail old women thrown around, manhandled, captured and thrown into transport trucks. FEMA has created “detainment camps” which people are not allowed to leave, where they get two meals a day, are not allowed to cook, can’t leave to go to church…

As our illegitimate president and his cronies keep telling us, it is only a matter of time before a terrorist nuke takes out an American city. If this happens (and we are told repeatedly it is not a matter of if but when), the Bush administration, FEMA, the Ministry of Homeland Security, and the Pentagon will be ready, having field tested their “response” in New Orleans. Expect Blackwater goons, experienced in killing “insurgents” in South Africa and Iraq, to enter your house—by way of kicking in the front door or pitching a stun grenade through the living room window—and confiscate your weapons and haul you off to a FEMA concentration camp. Of course, they will bear special badges, issued by a corrupt or compromised local government, and thus it will be said the gun and Constitution nuts resisting will be going up against the will of the people (that is to say the will of our neolib plutocratic overseers who have decided the Constitution and a constitutional republic are no longer workable under the rubric of their globalist agenda).

Unfortunately, many Americans are so brainwashed (and afraid of al-CIA-duh, due to an unrelenting and highly organized campaign of fake terror alerts) they are unable to realize the threat (due in large part to a complicit media that soft pedals totalitarianism as “compassion”). For as Sinclair Lewis wrote in his prophetic novel, “most of the easy-going descendants of the wise-cracking Benjamin Franklin had not learned that Patrick Henry’s ‘Give me liberty or give me death’ meant anything more than a high school yell or a cigarette slogan.” Many of them will come around when a goon trained by South Africa’s apartheid government shoves the muzzle of an M-16 in their faces, barking obscenities and smashing up the furniture. Of course, by then, it will be far too late.

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Blackwater Mercenaries Deploy in New Orleans
    By Jeremy Scahill and Daniela Crespo
    t r u t h o u t | Report

    Saturday 10 September 2005

    New Orleans - Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans. Some of the mercenaries say they have been "deputized" by the Louisiana governor; indeed some are wearing gold Louisiana state law enforcement badges on their chests and Blackwater photo identification cards on their arms. They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and have been given the authority to use lethal force. Several mercenaries we spoke with said they had served in Iraq on the personal security details of the former head of the US occupation, L. Paul Bremer and the former US ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte.

    "This is a totally new thing to have guys like us working CONUS (Continental United States)," a heavily armed Blackwater mercenary told us as we stood on Bourbon Street in the French Quarter. "We're much better equipped to deal with the situation in Iraq."

    Blackwater mercenaries are some of the most feared professional killers in the world and they are accustomed to operating without worry of legal consequences. Their presence on the streets of New Orleans should be a cause for serious concern for the remaining residents of the city and raises alarming questions about why the government would allow men trained to kill with impunity in places like Iraq and Afghanistan to operate here. Some of the men now patrolling the streets of New Orleans returned from Iraq as recently as 2 weeks ago.

    What is most disturbing is the claim of several Blackwater mercenaries we spoke with that they are here under contract from the federal and Louisiana state governments.

    Blackwater is one of the leading private "security" firms servicing the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. It has several US government contracts and has provided security for many senior US diplomats, foreign dignitaries and corporations. The company rose to international prominence after 4 of its men were killed in Fallujah and two of their charred bodies were hung from a bridge in March 2004. Those killings sparked the massive US retaliation against the civilian population of Fallujah that resulted in scores of deaths and tens of thousands of refugees.

    As the threat of forced evictions now looms in New Orleans and the city confiscates even legally registered weapons from civilians, the private mercenaries of Blackwater patrol the streets openly wielding M-16s and other assault weapons. This despite Police Commissioner Eddie Compass' claim that "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons."

    Officially, Blackwater says its forces are in New Orleans to "join the Hurricane Relief Effort." A statement on the company's website, dated September 1, advertises airlift services, security services and crowd control. The company, according to news reports, has since begun taking private contracts to guard hotels, businesses and other properties. But what has not been publicly acknowledged is the claim, made to us by 2 Blackwater mercenaries, that they are actually engaged in general law enforcement activities including "securing neighborhoods" and "confronting criminals."

    That raises a key question: under what authority are Blackwater's men operating? A spokesperson for the Homeland Security Department, Russ Knocke, told the Washington Post he knows of no federal plans to hire Blackwater or other private security. "We believe we've got the right mix of personnel in law enforcement for the federal government to meet the demands of public safety." he said.

    But in an hour-long conversation with several Blackwater mercenaries, we heard a different story. The men we spoke with said they are indeed on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and the Louisiana governor's office and that some of them are sleeping in camps organized by Homeland Security in New Orleans and Baton Rouge. One of them wore a gold Louisiana state law enforcement badge and said he had been "deputized" by the governor. They told us they not only had authority to make arrests but also to use lethal force. We encountered the Blackwater forces as we walked through the streets of the largely deserted French Quarter. We were talking with 2 New York Police officers when an unmarked car without license plates sped up next to us and stopped. Inside were 3 men, dressed in khaki uniforms, flak jackets and wielding automatic weapons. "Y'all know where the Blackwater guys are?" they asked. One of the police officers responded, "There are a bunch of them around here," and pointed down the road.

    "Blackwater?" we asked. "The guys who are in Iraq?"

    "Yeah," said the officer. "They're all over the place."

    A short while later, as we continued down Bourbon Street, we ran into the men from the car. They wore Blackwater ID badges on their arms.

    "When they told me New Orleans, I said, 'What country is that in?,'" said one of the Blackwater men. He was wearing his company ID around his neck in a carrying case with the phrase "Operation Iraqi Freedom" printed on it. After bragging about how he drives around Iraq in a "State Department issued level 5, explosion proof BMW," he said he was "just trying to get back to Kirkuk (in the north of Iraq) where the real action is." Later we overheard him on his cell phone complaining that Blackwater was only paying $350 a day plus per diem. That is much less than the men make serving in more dangerous conditions in Iraq. Two men we spoke with said they plan on returning to Iraq in October. But, as one mercenary said, they've been told they could be in New Orleans for up to 6 months. "This is a trend," he told us. "You're going to see a lot more guys like us in these situations."


    Jeremy Scahill, a correspondent for the national radio and TV program Democracy Now!, and Daniela Crespo are in New Orleans. Visit www.democracynow.org for in-depth, independent, investigative reporting on Hurricane Katrina. Email: [email protected].

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml



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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2007, 08:37:50 am »
But is Blackwater just a CIA front like Air Amercia ?

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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2007, 08:50:54 am »
 You clearly see the pattern here. Is BlackWater a CIA front, or is the CIA is outsourcing to BlackWater, and others just like the military is?  The CIA outright owned Air America, but who knows about BlackWater. There's no bright line anymore between what is government, and what is corporate.  All in the name of old fashioned fascism.

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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 08:38:22 pm »
LOL, I find it pointless to post here if my posts are going to be pulled and withdrawn completely.  Way to inspire open debate here fellas.....Heaven forbid an opposing viewpoint.  And I don't think I was being abusive.  What does that say about you folks?  And I thought Democratic Underground was bad...lol...

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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 10:50:48 pm »
Maybe if you stopped spamming your troll posts all over this forum, and posted something other than senseless crap, we'd keep them.

If everybody disagrees with you, why don't you join all the troll gangbangers on Digg? We don't tolerate ignorant military boys like you who think it's fun to shoot up people in their homeland for sport.

So go back under your bridge, triton, and get a life.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 08:51:39 pm »
I don't think I'd describe my posts as spamming camper.  I was merely pointing out the fact all my posts had been removed.  And I love how any post that doesn't agree with everyone here is "trolling".  Again, I'll suggest that discussion means little if there is no disagreement to spur a little thinking.  I've responded to most posts disagreeing with my position with more than enough thoughtful and contemplative rebuttal.  I don't hold you guys' passion against you, it's a good thing.  I merely recommend more open minds than what you'all have displayed to this point.

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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 09:31:53 pm »
I don't think I'd describe my posts as spamming camper.  I was merely pointing out the fact all my posts had been removed.  And I love how any post that doesn't agree with everyone here is "trolling".  Again, I'll suggest that discussion means little if there is no disagreement to spur a little thinking.  I've responded to most posts disagreeing with my position with more than enough thoughtful and contemplative rebuttal.  I don't hold you guys' passion against you, it's a good thing.  I merely recommend more open minds than what you'all have displayed to this point.

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Re: Blackwater busted selling weapons to Iraqi terrorists
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2008, 04:24:43 pm »
When we first invaded Iraq, we recovered 360 tons of weapons and artillary. It was then Stolen under our Gaurd.I am not so stupid(since i am in salvage bussiness) that i do not realize how many trucks and people this would take to make happen. Its not like a cat burglar hopped through a window. This would have taken a convoy.
Blackwater appears almost simultaneously.
I wonder who really sticks the RSB on the tarmacs and road ways?

IRAQ WAR=   US Government Organized CRIME . Final answer.