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Death by Gun Control - Democide
« on: November 11, 2008, 02:53:42 pm »
Death by "Gun Control"
by Aaron Zelman and Richard W. Stevens


"Why must all decent non-violent people fight against "gun control"? Why is the right to keep and bear arms truly a fundamental individual right? You can find the answers in this new book.

People frequently ask why we are so dedicated to our cause? This book answers that question by collecting the key facts and arguments in one place.

People have asked us to present the whole JPFO argument in one place. We have done it. Available now in an easy-reading format and a handy size, the new book is entitled Death by Gun Control: The Human Cost of Victim Disarmament.

The message is simple: Disarmed people are neither free nor safe - they become the criminals' prey and the tyrants' playthings. When the civilians are defenseless and their government goes bad, however, thousands and millions of innocents die.

Professor R.J. Rummel, author of the monumental book Death by Government, said: "Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth." For power to concentrate and become dangerous, the citizens must be disarmed.

What disarms the citizens? The idea of "gun control." It's the idea that only the government has the right to possess firearms, and that citizens have no unalienable right to use force to defend against aggression.

Death by Gun Control carefully examines the "gun control" idea: its meaning, its purposes, its effects. It comes in many forms, but in every form it enables the evildoers and works against righteous defense.



When the gun prohibitionists quote a statistic about how many people are killed by firearms misuse, the discussion sometimes bogs down into whose crime stats to believe and how to count crimes vs. the defensive firearm uses. Death by Gun Control works on a level that nobody can dispute: documented world history.
In the 20th Century:

* Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.
* Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.

How could governments kill so many people? The governments had the power - and the people, the victims, were unable to resist. The victims were unarmed.


Truth They Cannot Refute
Death by Gun Control delivers the essential - and gut wrenching -- truth that the anti-self defense "gun control" advocates never try to refute. They simply cannot refute the facts or the formula.
Here's the Formul
a: Hatred + Government + Disarmed Civilians = Genocide
What makes the argument so powerful? Two factors. First, it makes common sense: unarmed defenseless people have no hope against armed aggressors. Second, it states the historical truth: evil governments did wipe out 170,000,000 innocent non-military lives in the 20th Century alone.

Using the facts in Death by Gun Control, you can take down the enemies of the Bill of Rights. The rights-destroyers have no answers to these facts. They have no excuses for their killer ideas.

JPFO's work has already borne fruit. John R. Bolton, an under-Secretary of State for the United States, this year urged the United Nations to recognize how an "oppressed non-state group defending itself from a genocidal government" will need ready access to firearms. Mr. Bolton might have been the first U.S. official in modern history to have argued to the UN that private citizens might need to be armed against their own killer governments.

Paul Harvey, the world-renowned and much admired radio commentator, last year reportedly broadcast the JPFO-produced facts linking "gun control" to the genocide of millions of unarmed civilians. Country by country, Mr. Harvey counted the murdered victims of civilian disarmament policies.

Our new book could inspire other opinion-makers to join the chorus. Chapters in the book teach about:

* The essential meaning of "gun control"
* The Genocide Formula
* The laws and policies that led to mega murder in Cambodia, China, Nazi Germany, Guatemala, Rwanda, Ottoman Turkey, Uganda, USSR
* Zimbabwe's land invasions and firearms confiscations
* Soaring crime in Britain after gun prohibition
* Violence and police state polices in Japan
* The right and duty of armed self-defense in Judaism and both Protestant and Catholic Christianity
* Racist roots of "gun control" in America
* The United Nations program to disarm civilians worldwide
* Police state polices that condition Americans to accept victim disarmament

Contributors: Leading Lights for Liberty
There is much more. Death by Gun Control features articles contributed by:

* James Bovard (Introduction): "Not every firearms regulation leads inexorably to genocide. ... But there is no trigger guard on political ambition."
* Stephen Halbrook, Ph.D. (Chapter 9): How Nazi firearms laws disarmed German Jews -- the whole story.
* Jacob Hornberger (Chapter 10): Retelling the tragic, inspiring tale of The White Rose Society, college students who paid the ultimate price for freedom of mind.
* Larry Pratt (Chapter 18): What the Bible says to Christians and Jews about self-defense and victim disarmament.


Endorsed by Experts
Honestly, is this book any good? Ask David Kopel, scholar at the Independence Institute and author of several books and many articles on firearms ownership and public policy. Mr. Kopel honored our book, saying that Death by Gun Control is "one of the best books ever written about the right to keep and bear arms."

There are many excellent books that advance our understanding of the right to keep and bear arms, the Second Amendment and the American liberty philosophy. Death by Gun Control is unique because it alone drives directly to the heart of the matter: that "gun control" ideas kill - both overseas and here in the U.S.A.

Breaking News: Wave good-bye to the era when Americans could say "it can't happen here." After the September 11 terror attack that killed 3,000 people, Americans no longer ignore "foreign" nations and the history of the world. America has been plunged deep into a perilous world, and our citizens are learning about war and invasion and attack and defense. The lesson of the 20th Century genocides cannot be dismissed any more. The logic of personal self-defense is hitting home. Death by Gun Control is perfectly timed to influence people during this window of opportunity. Order extra copies to spread the word."

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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 03:04:15 pm »
Excellent post! Stock up on guns and ammo folks! It won't be long before they'll try disarming us completely.
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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 03:05:46 pm »
Excellent post! Stock up on guns and ammo folks! It won't be long before they'll try disarming us completely.
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Gun Control = Democide
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 03:19:33 pm »
DEATH BY GOVERNMENT - Definition of Democide
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.CHAP2.HTM

Democide is meant to define the killing by government as the concept of murder does individual killing in domestic society. Here intentionality (premeditation) is critical. This also includes practical intentionality. If a government causes deaths through a reckless and depraved indifference to human life, the deaths were as though intended.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NH.HTM
Freedom, Democide, War: An Alternative History Series

IMPORTANT NOTE: Among all the democide estimates appearing in these books, some have been revised upward. I have changed that for
Mao's famine, 1958-1962, from zero to 38,000,000.

And thus I have had to change the overall democide for
the PRC (1928-1987) from 38,702,000 to 76,702,000. Details here.
I have changed my estimate for colonial democide from 870,000 to an additional 50,000,000. Details here.

Thus, the new world total: old total 1900-1999 = 174,000,000.
New World total = 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000.

Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times.

Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century.


http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/11/reevaluating-chinas-democide-to-be.html

Now, my overall totals for world democide 1900-1999 must also be changed. I have estimated it to be 174,000,000 murdered, a figure familiar to you if you are a regular visitor to this blog or my website. With my reevaluation of Mao's democide, I now put the total at 212,000,000, of which communist regimes murdered about 148,000,000. Also, compare this to combat dead. Communists overall have murdered four times those killed in combat, while globally the democide toll was over six times that number.


Statistics Of Democide: Genocide And Mass Murder Since 1900:
http://2020ok.com/books/24/statistics-of-democide-genocide-and-mass-murder-since-1900-10624.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 03:23:17 pm »
Thank you for these excellent posts, I really appreciate it!
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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 03:27:08 pm »
Here's another source with some of the same info.
Gun Control & The Mass Extermination Of Human Beings

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SIGHTINGS
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Gun Control & The Mass  Extermination Of Human Beings
From James Mortellaro <[email protected]>
From George R. Pisani
5-17-00

"In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
  
"In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
  
"Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
  
"China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
  
"Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
  
"Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
  
"Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated."
  
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
  
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, ask them "Who do YOU want to round up and exterminate?" With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.
  
Something to think about... Don't let the liberal media control your mind with their propaganda blitz. They want to blame crime on gun ownership to justify eventual gun confiscation, but their soft on crime law enforcement and pro-violence and immoral entertainment industry is the real cause.
  
Most of the politicians in both parties are controlled by the liberal establishment. In effect, we have a one party system. They deserve academy awards.
  
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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 06:01:14 pm »

* Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.
* Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.

How could governments kill so many people? The governments had the power - and the people, the victims, were unable to resist. The victims were unarmed.


Yes, agree wholly.

The most dangerous weapon to society's well being is Government - *Statistically Provable* as clearly pointed out by the OP.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 06:13:56 pm »
Great post, you hit on it.
Thanks..

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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 06:47:21 pm »



   The government knows they can get your guns for food SO GET YOUR FOOD.  Death to the NWO!
I'M A DEPLORABLE KNUCKLEHEAD THAT SUPPORTS PRESIDENT TRUMP.  MAY GOD BLESS HIM AND KEEP HIM SAFE.

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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 09:54:49 am »
And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 08:31:22 pm »
Bump

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008, 08:46:57 pm »
I look at those stats and can only wonder why the people of those nations did
not fight back with knives, bats, sharpened broom sticks.Why , why
do people  just go along, always???????

The post about the 54 year old woman being tased...
a stadium full of angry people could have made mince meat out of those thugs/pigs
SEE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYOCuPjd91U
video has no sound
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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 04:23:39 pm »
http://www.literaryreview.co.uk/mirsky_09_10.html

Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-62
By Frank Dikötter (Bloomsbury 420pp £25)
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brutal fact, between 1959 and 1962, at least forty-three million Chinese died during the famine Snow didn't bother to see. Most died of hunger, over two million were executed or were beaten or tortured to death, the birth rate halved in some places, parents sold their children, and people dug up the dead and ate them.

The cause of this disaster, the worst ever to befall China and one of the worst anywhere at any time, was Mao, who, cheered on by his sycophantic and frightened colleagues, decreed that before long China's economy must overtake that of the Soviet Union, Britain and even the US. Mao suggested that 'When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill,' and declared that anyone who questioned his policies was a 'Rightist', a toxic term eventually applied to thirteen million Party members.

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Now Frank Dikötter, a professor at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London and at Hong Kong University, has laid out the vast horror in detail, drawing on local and provincial archives that have only recently become available to approved foreign scholars.

In terms of Mao's reputation this book leaves the Chairman for dead, as a monster in the same league as Hitler and Stalin - and that is without considering the years of the Cultural Revolution (1966-76), when hundreds of thousands more Chinese died.

One of Dikötter's observations is that Mao instigated the Cultural Revolution to wreak revenge on close colleagues who had dared to show him up. It is a mark of the historical darkness that still envelops China that many Chinese blame the famine on the Soviet Union, which, they maintain, snatched food from the mouths of starving Chinese by insisting that Beijing export grain to repay Moscow's loans.

Until recently, Dikötter states, most accounts of the famine have been based on central government sources that are often incomplete or untrue. What he found during his years rummaging in archives throughout China was that such central documents were transmitted in fuller, less censored versions to the provinces and below. In addition, the archives he saw contained letters of complaint or justification from local officials and even ordinary people, minutes from local and even central meetings, and statistics which were either falsified to hoodwink Mao or local superiors, or were subtle enough to reveal that awful things were happening.

For example, in 1960 in the 'model province' of Henan, in Xinyang alone 'over a million people died ... Of these victims 67,000 were clubbed to death with sticks'. When this came to Mao 'he blamed the trouble on class enemies'.

On another occasion, when the Chairman learned that there had been terrible deaths in one town he had hitherto admired, 'Mao simply switched his allegiance to the next county down the road willing to outdo others in extravagant production claims.' Mao and his cronies insisted, as one of them put it as reports of deaths rolled in, that 'This is the price we have to pay; it's nothing to be afraid of. Who knows how many people have been sacrificed on the battlefields and in the prisons [for the revolutionary cause]? Now we have a few cases of illness and death; it's nothing!' Every detail was locally recorded and explained - or obscured. Take this report from 25 February 1960 in Yaohejia village: 'Name of culprit: Yang Zhongsheng ... Name of victim: Yang Ecshun. Relationship with Culprit: Younger Brother ... Manner of Crime: Killed and Eaten. Reason: Livelihood Issues.'

Society completely unravelled. In the newly established communes, peasants following Mao's lunatic advice ploughed their paddies uselessly deep. They dismantled their houses to use as fertiliser, and melted down their tools to make the steel Mao had decreed was the mark of an advanced socialist country (after all wasn't Stalin 'the man of steel'?). Other peasants abandoned their fields and marched miles to work all night constructing mammoth water schemes that often came to nothing, while their families died without grain at home. The only reason millions more didn't starve, as Dikötter describes in detail, is because of their desperate ploys to steal food.

Dikötter is very sure of himself and sometimes scornful. He dismisses the reports of the 'fabled sinologists in the British embassy [as] pretty clueless' without showing why.

He says that only one foreign scholar, Jasper Becker, author in 1996 of the 'very readable' Hungry Ghosts: Mao's Secret Famine, discovered that in 1979, after Mao's death in 1976, a team surveying rural China concluded that forty-three to forty-six million people died during the famine.

This is the figure adopted, minimally, by Dikötter. But the same source and number appeared in 1997 in volume three of Roderick MacFarquhar's The Origins of the Cultural Revolution. Rightly proud of his own investigations, Dikötter doesn't make much use of revealing local studies like Ralph A Thaxton's Catastrophe and Contention in Rural China, and Edward Friedman et al's Chinese Village, Socialist State. And he is dismissive of Tombstone (which he mistranslates as Wooden Tombstone), a sweeping, very informative investigation into the famine by the courageous Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng, which of course had to be published in Hong Kong two years ago.

http://www.booktv.org/Program/11976/Maos+Great+Famine+The+History+of+Chinas+Most+Devastating+Catastrophe+19581962.aspx

Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-1962 Frank Dikotter

http://www.booktv.org/Watch/11976/Maos+Great+Famine+The+History+of+Chinas+Most+Devastating+Catastrophe+19581962.aspx

Frank Dikötter: Social Engineering Mao Style - The Alex Jones Show 1/3  

Frank Dikötter: Social Engineering Mao Style - The Alex Jones Show 2/3  

Frank Dikötter: Social Engineering Mao Style - The Alex Jones Show 3/3  

http://web.mac.com/dikotter/Dikotter/Home.html
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 05:42:37 pm »
Bump -

Democide - Death by government:

Democide New World total = 262,000,000
= 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000.

Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times.

 http://www.jayrosenblattfilms.com/human_remains.php
Human Remains
a film about the banality of evil

Written and directed by Jay Rosenblatt
30 minutes • 16mm• color/B&W • 1998

Human Remainsis a haunting documentary which illustrates the banality of evil by creating intimate portraits of five of the 20th century's most reviled dictators. The film unveils the personal lives of Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Francisco Franco and Mao Tse Tung. We learn the private and mundane details of their everyday lives -- their favorite foods, films, habits and sexual preferences. There is no mention of their public lives or of their place in history. The intentional omission of the horrors for which these men were responsible hovers over the film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2laPyPILRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3QunYw-AIM
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 06:36:44 pm »
The rouge government will use hunger, medicine, shelter, water, money, sex, or any number of human needs and weaknesses to disarm the populace. The weaker minded and those with less resolve will quickly succumb to such blackmail techniques.

 Guns = freedom, plain and simple.
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 07:08:14 pm »
Statistics Of Japanese Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources By R.J. Rummel
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

"As to Okinawa (line 333), we know about how many Okinawan civilians lost their lives during the American invasion of the Island, and some of these intentionally were killed by Japanese troops or ordered to commit suicide, but the democide is unknown and cannot even be guessed."

A few years ago Rummel said democide in Okinawa did not happen. Now, it appears it may have happened but the evidence is hard to find, or hidden. For many years now The Japanese Government has been desperately trying to omit reference to the Mass Murder of the lowest classes of Okinawan people that occurred from March 1945 to June/July 1945.

I believe Rummel has guts to examine this topic, but he can only expose what he is allowed.

A good place to read about what was going on in Okinawa and Japan for that matter nearing the end of WWII and post WWII is U. S. Military. (1995). GHQ/SCAP Top Secret Records I. Tokyo: Kashiwashobo. This primary source provides extensive coverage of post WWII reconstruction clearly lists the main players and their actions and objectives. Though difficult to find, except for libraries that hold UN/GHQ/SCAP repositories, these records are available for the public to examine.


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Re: Death by Gun Control
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 07:47:16 pm »
I look at those stats and can only wonder why the people of those nations did
not fight back with knives, bats, sharpened broom sticks.Why , why
do people  just go along, always???????

The post about the 54 year old woman being tased...
a stadium full of angry people could have made mince meat out of those thugs/pigs
SEE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYOCuPjd91U
video has no sound
German Resistance to Hitler by Peter Hoffman is a good book about people who fought back. 
http://www.amazon.com/German-Resistance-Hitler-Peter-Hoffmann/dp/0674350863
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 08:52:41 pm »
Bump  Democide in Syria

http://tundratabloids.com/2011/06/hypocrite-turkish-pm-chastises-syria-over-democide-numbers-calls-them-barbaric.html
HYPOCRITE TURKISH PM CHASTISES SYRIA OVER DEMOCIDE NUMBERS, CALLS THEM BARBARIC…….

Posted on 11/06/2011 by KGS

Erdogan: Syrian troops barbaric, ‘don’t behave like humans’
 
By JPOST.COM STAFF AND REUTERS
 06/10/2011 11:40
 
Syrian troops begin crackdown operation in town where 120 Syrian forces were killed, state TV says; Gates: Assad’s legitimacy questionable after “slaughter of innocents”; Turkish PM says can’t support Syria in UNSC.
 
In an escalation of rhetoric towards Syrian President Bashar Assad yet unseen from Ankara, Turkish Prime Minsiter Recep Tayyip Erdogan called the Syrian crackdown on protesters “inhumane,” and described it as barbaric, Turkish newspaper Today’s Zaman reported on Friday.
 
As some 2,500 refugees have fled to Turkey in recent days from Syria’s northern region where troops and tanks are amassing ahead of an expected offensive, blasted the tactics employed by Syria’s elite army units, led by President Assad’s brother, Maher.

http://irpundit.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/has-the-international-community-failed-in-preventing-the-democide-in-syria/

Going by the current scenario in Syria we have to agree that the international community has been divided over the viable solution for eliminating the bloodshed and mass killing of civilians.

The peaceful revolution which began 10 months ago has killed close to 6000 people at a rate of twenty per day and still continuing is a clear indicator that the international community has failed in preventing this democide.

Now before we go into the analysis of the situation in Syria and the possible solution to its crisis we can afford to revisit the happenings of the last ten months very briefly.
 
The protests against the 10-year old rule of President Bashar al Assad of Syria began in March 2011 in the provincial town of Deraa where several school boys were jailed and tortured for scrawling anti-government graffiti on some public walls. The turmoil erupted in Deraa and soon spread to several other cities including the capital Damascus and grew into a mass movement. The protesters who initially demanded the end of police brutalities, greater freedom and eradication of corruption ultimately started clamoring for the outright end of Bashar’s rule. Bashar responded first by promising political reforms but later resorted to overwhelming force in an attempt to put down the protests. Thousands were killed and detained and this is still continuing according to reports from the city of Homs.

As the crackdown continued, the US and the European Union stiffened economic sanctions already in place against the Bashar government. The US slapped sanction on president himself, accusing him of human rights violations.
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 07:42:22 pm »
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2013, 09:24:14 pm »
For a Reed swaying in the wind...

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..and the followup..
The number, 666, has been changed. The new number is, 999.

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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 09:37:04 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 07:29:15 pm »
Even more evidence that STALIN was a paranoid delusional psychopath

Stalin re-discover's Gendercide:

http://www.gendercide.org/case_stalin.html
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Gendercide
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The gendering of the witch-hunt was cast into particularly sharp relief in those cases where most, sometimes almost all, adult males among a given population were rounded up for mass arrest and probable death.

Writes Robert W. Thurston: "According to some reports, entire groups of men were taken in one swoop by the NKVD. 'Almost all the male inhabitants of the little Greek community where I lived [in the lower Ukraine] had been arrested,' recalled one émigré.

Another reported that the NKVD took all males between the ages of seventeen and seventy from his village of German-Russians. ... In some stories, the police clearly knew they were arresting innocent people.

For example, an order reportedly arrived in Tashkent to 'Send 200 [prisoners]!' The local NKVD was at its wits' end about who else to arrest, having exhausted all the obvious possibilities, until it learned that a band of 'gypsies' (Romany) had just camped in town. Police surrounded them and charged every male from seventeen to sixty with sabotage."

In the city of Zherinka, "'Ivan Ivanovich' ... had his wife sew rubles [Soviet currency] into his coat because the NKVD was taking all the men in his town." (Thurston, Life and Terror in Stalin's Russia, 1934-1941 [New Haven: Yale University Press, 1996], pp. 79-80, 150.)
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By 1938, Conquest estimates that about 7 million Purge victims were in the labour/death camps, on top of the hundreds of thousands who had been slaughtered outright.
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The main evidence for the gendercidal impact of the "Great Terror" lies in the Soviet census of 1959. In a fascinating addendum to the original edition of his work on the Purge period, The Great Terror, Robert Conquest uses the census figures to argue that the Soviet population "was some 20 million lower than Western observers had expected after making allowance for war losses." "But the main point," he notes, "arises from a consideration of the figures for males and females in the different age groups."

He then unveils a striking table indicating that whereas age cohorts up to 25-29 displayed the usual 51-to-49 percent split of women to men, from 30-34 the gap widened to 55 to 45 percent.

Thereafter, the disparity became massive, reflecting the generations of males caught up in the purges and the Great Patriotic War.

From 35-39, women outnumbered men by 61 to 39 percent;
from 40-54, the figure was 62 to 38 percent;
in the 55-59 age group, 67 to 33 percent;
from 60-69, 65 to 35 percent;
and 70 or older, 68 to 32 percent.

Conquest summarizes the findings as follows:

... Now all authorities agree that the Purge struck in the main at people "between thirty and fifty-five"; "generally, arrested people are all thirty or over. That's the dangerous age: you can remember things." There were few young or old, most of them being "in the prime of life." Add twenty years for the 1959 position.

... The wastage of millions of males in the older age groups is too great to be masked, whatever saving assumptions we may make. We here have, frozen into the census figures, a striking indication of the magnitude of the losses inflicted in the Purge. (Conquest, The Great Terror: Stalin's Purge of the Thirties [New York: The Macmillan Company, 1968], pp. 711-12. Emphasis added.)
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2013, 01:00:41 pm »
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/reminder-stalins-firearms-confiscation-was-a-tremendous-success-for-socialist-state-video/
Reminder: Stalin’s Firearms Confiscation Was a Tremendous Success for Socialist State (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, January 9, 2013, 2:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1aYxCzepI&feature=player_embedded
Joseph Stalin’s firearms confiscation was a tremendous success for the Socialist state.
 This is a shocking reminder on how Stalin was able to control, starve, punish and imprison a defenseless people.
 
Disarming the German Jewish Population:

http://www.examiner.com/article/hitler-s-gun-control-lie-debunked
Hitler’s gun control
Gun control
January 13, 2013
By: Jennifer Cruz
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The Salon article aims to debunk the idea that gun control was a key feature in the extermination of the Jews.
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The article first addresses a quote from the National Rifle Association Executive Vice President, Wayne LaPierre’s book, “Guns, Crime, and Freedom.”
 

“In Germany, Jewish extermination began with the Nazi Weapon Law of 1938, signed by Adolf Hitler.”
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“Jews (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.”
 
Confiscation was also made legal.
 

“Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.”
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Therefore, the laws concerning possession and ownership of firearms in Germany did not apply to Jews.
 
Next, this statement was made in the article:
 

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general.”
 
The statement itself is a complete contradiction. The fact that the law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns is gun control. No, not gun control in general, but it was not the general population that was exterminated; it was the Jews and other persecuted classes.

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To paraphrase George Santayana, those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2013, 01:52:26 pm »
Ukraine Journalism -

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/11/21/how-stalin-s-terrible-famine-in-ukraine-was-exposed-by-a-western-mail-writer-91466-32278424/
How Stalin’s terrible famine in Ukraine was exposed by a Western Mail writer
 WalesOnline
 Nov 21 2012

This weekend sees the anniversary of the famine Stalin engineered to kill millions in Ukraine. Here Mick Antoniw AM, the son of Ukrainian emigres, gives a personal account of Holodomor, as it is known
 
This weekend in Ukraine and in Ukrainian communities and homes across the world people will be commemorating the 79th anniversary of the “Holodomor”, the artificial famine created by Stalin which led to the deaths over an 18 month period during 1932-33 of more than seven million Ukrainian men, women and children. The precise figures will never be known but estimates range between six and ten million dead.

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British and indeed international investigative journalism failed spectacularly. On the other side, the best of British journalism was exemplified by journalists such as Malcolm Muggeridge and in particular the Western Mail journalist, Gareth Jones.
 
After graduating from Cambridge in 1929, Barry-born Gareth made his first visit to Hughesovka (Donetsk) where he saw the first signs of famine. In 1933 he visited Soviet Ukraine again and defied a ban on travelling to visit the famine affected regions.
 
During his March 1933 “off limits” walking tour of Ukraine he witnessed the famine first hand and reported: “I walked alone through villages and twelve collective farms. Everywhere was the cry: ‘There is no bread, we are dying’.
 
“In one of the peasant’s cottages in which I stayed we slept nine in the room. It was pitiful to see that two out of the three children had swollen stomachs. All there was to eat in the hut was a very dirty watery soup, with a slice or two of potato.
 
“Fear of death loomed over the cottage, for they had not enough potatoes to last until the next crop. When I shared my white bread and butter and cheese one of the peasant women said: ‘Now I have eaten such wonderful things I can die happy’. I set forth again further towards the south and heard the villagers say: ‘We are waiting for death’.
 
“During the famine around 20-25% of the population of Soviet Ukraine was exterminated including a third of Ukraine’s children.
 
“That the famine was a direct product of Stalin’s political leadership was illustrated by the gruesome statement of leading communist MM Khatayevich who summed up the official position thus: ‘A ruthless struggle is going on between the peasantry and our regime. It’s a struggle to the death. This year was a test of our strength and their endurance. It took a famine to show them who is master here. It has cost millions of lives, but the collective farm system is here to stay. We’ve won the war’.”
 
Gareth Jones was vilified and ostracised for reporting honestly what he saw. He was nevertheless one of the few who stood up and maintained the highest journalistic principles. He was banned by the Soviet authorities from re- entering the Soviet Union. Two years later he was murdered in suspicious circumstances in Manchuria in 1935.
 
In recognition of Gareth Jones’ exposure of the famine a memorial plaque in English, Welsh and Ukrainian was unveiled in Aberystwyth in May 2006.
 
In November 2008 I attended a ceremony in London at which his nephew was awarded the Ukrainian Order of Freedom.
 
Wales has an unusual historic connection with Ukraine mainly arising out of its common industrial heritage. In Gareth Jones, Wales can be proud of something else; at a time when many turned a blind eye to the terrible events in Ukraine, it was a Welshman who stood up and told the world the truth.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1038774/Holocaust-hunger-The-truth-Stalins-Great-Famine.html
Holocaust by hunger: The truth behind Stalin's Great Famine
By Simon Sebag Montefiore
 UPDATED:19:50 EST, 25 July 2008

The demented Roman Emperor Caligula once mused that if all the people of Rome had one neck he would cut it just to be rid of his troublesome people. The trouble was there were simply too many Romans to kill them all.
 
Many centuries later, the brutal Soviet dictator Josef Stalin reflected that he would have liked to deport the entire Ukrainian nation, but 20 million were too many to move even for him.
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So he found another solution: starvation.
 
Now, 75 years after one of the great forgotten crimes of modern times, Stalin's man-made famine of 1932/3, the former Soviet republic of Ukraine is asking the world to classify it as a genocide.
 
The Ukrainians call it the Holodomor - the Hunger. Millions starved as Soviet troops and secret policemen raided their villages, stole the harvest and all the food in villagers' homes.
 
They dropped dead in the streets, lay dying and rotting in their houses, and some women became so desperate for food that they ate their own children.
 
If they managed to fend off starvation, they were deported and shot in their hundreds of thousands.
 
So terrible was the famine that Igor Yukhnovsky, director of the Institute of National Memory, the Ukrainian institution researching the Holodomor, believes as many as nine million may have died.
 
For decades the disaster remained a state secret, denied by Stalin and his Soviet government and concealed from the outside world with the help of the 'useful idiots' - as Lenin called Soviet sympathisers in the West.
 
Russia is furious that Ukraine has raised the issue of the famine: the swaggering 21st-century state of Prime Minister Putin and President Medvedev see this as nationalist chicanery designed to promote Ukraine, which may soon join Nato and the EU.
 
They see it as an anti-Russian manoeuvre more to do with modern politics than history. And they refuse to recognise this old crime as a genocide [ Ah but it is DEMOCIDE!] .
 
They argue that because the famine not only killed Ukrainians but huge numbers of Russians, Cossacks, Kazakhs and many others as well, it can't be termed genocide - defined as the deliberate killing of large numbers of a particular ethnic group.
 
It may be a strange defence, but it is historically correct.
 
So what is the truth about the Holodomor? And why is Ukraine provoking Russia's wrath by demanding public recognition now?
 
The Ukraine was the bread basket of Russia, but the Great Famine of 1932/3 was not just aimed at the Ukrainians as a nation - it was a deliberate policy aimed at the entire Soviet peasant population - Russian, Ukrainian and Kazakh - especially better-off, small-time farmers.
 
It was a class war designed to 'break the back of the peasantry', a war of the cities against the countryside and, unlike the Holocaust, it was not designed to eradicate an ethnic people, but to shatter their independent spirit.
 
So while it may not be a formal case of genocide, it does, indeed, rank as one of the most terrible crimes of the 20th century.
 
To understand the origins of the famine, we have to go back to the October 1917 Revolution when the Bolsheviks, led by a ruthless clique of Marxist revolutionaries including Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin, seized power in the name of the workers and peasants of the Russian Empire to create a Marxist paradise, using terror, murder and repression.
 
The Russian Empire was made of many peoples, including the Russians, Ukrainians, Kazakhs and Georgians, but the great majority of them, especially in the vast arable lands of Ukraine, southern Russia, the northern Caucasus, and Siberia, were peasants, who dreamed only of owning their own land and farming it.
 
Initially, they were thrilled with the Revolution, which meant the breakup of the large landed estates into small parcels which they could farm.
 
But the peasants had no interest in the Marxist utopian ideologies that obsessed Lenin and Stalin.
 
Once they had seized their plots of land, they were no longer interested in esoteric absurdities such as Marx's stages in the creation of a classless society.
 
The fact is they were essentially conservative and wanted to pass what little wealth they had to their children.
 
This infuriated Lenin and the Bolsheviks, who believed that the peasantry, especially the ones who owned some land and a few cows, were a huge threat to a collectivist Soviet Russia.
 
Lenin's hatred of the peasantry became clear when a famine occurred in Ukraine and southern Russia in 1921, the inevitable result of the chaos and upheaval of the Revolution.
 
With his bloodthirsty loathing for all enemies of the Revolution, he said 'Let the peasants starve', and wrote ranting notes ordering the better-off peasants to be hanged in their thousands and their bodies displayed by the roadsides.
 
Yet this was an emotional outburst and, ever the ruthless pragmatist, he realised the country was so poor and weak in the immediate aftermath of its revolutionary civil war that the peasants were vital to its survival. So instead, he embraced what he called a New Economic Policy, in effect a temporary retreat from Marxism, that allowed the peasants to grow crops and sell them for profit. It was always planned by Lenin and his fellow radicals that this New Economic Policy should be a stopgap measure which would soon be abandoned in the Marxist cause.

But before this could happen, Lenin died in 1924 and Stalin defeated all his rivals for the Soviet leadership.

Then, three years later, grain supplies dropped radically. It had been a poor crop, made worse by the fact that many peasant farmers had shifted from grain into more lucrative cotton production.

Stalin travelled across Russia to inspect supplies and ordered forcible seizures of grain from the peasantry.

Thousands of young urban Communists were drafted into the countryside to help seize grain as Stalin determined that the old policies had failed.

Backed by the young, tough Communists of his party, he devised what he called the Great Turn: he would seize the land, force the peasants into collective farms and sell the excess grain abroad to force through a Five Year Plan of furious industrialisation to make Soviet Russia a military super power.

He expected the peasants to resist and decreed anyone who did so was a kulak - a better-off peasant who could afford to withhold grain - and who was now to be treated as a class enemy. By 1930, it was clear the collectivisation campaign was in difficulties.

There was less grain than before it had been introduced, the peasants were still resisting and the Soviet Union seemed to be tottering.

Stalin, along with his henchman Vyacheslav Molotov and others, wrote a ruthless memorandum ordering the 'destruction of the kulaks as a class'. They divided huge numbers of peasants into three categories.

The first was to be eliminated immediately; the second to be imprisoned in camps; the third, consisting of 150,000 households - almost a million innocent people - was to be deported to wildernesses in Siberia or Asia.

Stalin himself did not really understand how to identify a kulak or how to improve grain production, but this was beside the point.

What mattered was that sufficient numbers of peasants would be killed or deported for all resistance to his collectivisation programme to be smashed.

In letters written by many Soviet leaders, including Stalin and Molotov, which I have read in the archives, they repeatedly used the expression: 'We must break the back of the peasantry.' And they meant it.

In 1930/1, millions of peasants were deported, mainly to Siberia. But 800,000 people rebelled in small uprisings, often murdering local commissars who tried to take their grain.

So Stalin's top henchmen led armed expeditions of secret policemen to crush 'the wreckers', shooting thousands.

The peasants replied by destroying their crops and slaughtering 26 million cattle and 15 million horses to stop the Bolsheviks (and the cities they came from) getting their food.
 
Their mistake was to think they were dealing with ordinary politicians.

But the Bolsheviks were far more sinister than that: if many millions of peasants wished to fight to the death, then the Bolsheviks were not afraid of killing them.

It was war - and the struggle was most vicious not only in the Ukraine but in the north Caucasus, the Volga, southern Russia and central Asia.

The strain of the slaughter affected even the bull-nerved Stalin, who sensed opposition to these brutal policies by the more moderate Bolsheviks, including his wife Nadya. He knew Soviet power was suddenly precarious, yet Stalin kept selling the grain abroad while a shortage turned into a famine.

More than a million peasants were deported to Siberia: hundreds of thousands were arrested or shot.

Like a village shopkeeper doing his accounts, Stalin totted up the numbers of executed peasants and the tonnes of grains he had collected. By December 1931, famine was sweeping the Ukraine and north Caucasus.

'The peasants ate dogs, horses, rotten potatoes, the bark of trees, anything they could find,' wrote one witness Fedor Bleov.
 
By summer 1932, Fred Beal, an American radical and rare outside witness, visited a village near Kharkov in Ukraine, where he found all the inhabitants dead in their houses or on the streets, except one insane woman. Rats feasted on the bodies.

Beal found messages next to the bodies such as: 'My son, I couldn't wait. God be with you.'

One young communist, Lev Kopolev, wrote at the time of 'women and children with distended bellies turning blue, with vacant lifeless eyes. 'And corpses. Corpses in ragged sheepskin coats and cheap felt boots; corpses in peasant huts in the melting snow of Vologda [in Russia] and Kharkov [in Ukraine].'

Cannibalism was rife and some women offered sexual favours in return for food.

There are horrific eye-witness accounts of mothers eating their own children.

In the Ukrainian city of Poltava, Andriy Melezhyk recalled that neighbours found a pot containing a boiled liver, heart and lungs in the home of one mother who had died.
 
Under a barrel in the cellar they discovered a small hole in which a child's head, feet and hands were buried. It was the remains of the woman's little daughter, Vaska.
 
A boy named Miron Dolot described the countryside as 'like a battlefield after a war.

'Littering the fields were bodies of starving farmers who'd been combing the potato fields in the hope of finding a fragment of a potato. 'Some frozen corpses had been lying out there for months.'

On June 6, 1932, Stalin and Molotov ordered 'no deviation regarding amounts or deadlines of grain deliveries are to be permitted'.

A week later, even the Ukrainian Bolshevik leaders were begging for food, but Stalin turned on his own comrades, accusing them of being wreckers. 'The Ukraine has been given more than it should,' he stated.

When a comrade at a Politburo meeting told the truth about the horrors, Stalin, who knew what was happening perfectly well, retorted: 'Wouldn't it be better for you to leave your post and become a writer so you can concoct more fables!'

In the same week, a train pulled into Kiev from the Ukrainian villages 'loaded with corpses of people who had starved to death', according to one report. Such tragic sights had no effect on the Soviet leadership.

When the American Beal complained to the Bolshevik Ukrainian boss, Petrovsky, he replied: 'We know millions are dying. That is unfortunate, but the glorious future of the Soviet Union will justify it.'
 
Stalin was not alone in his crazed determination to push through his plan.

The archives reveal one young communist admitting: 'I saw people dying from hunger, but I firmly believed the ends justified the means.'

Though Stalin was admittedly in a frenzy of nervous tension, it was at this point in 1932 when under another leader the Soviet Union might have simply fallen apart and history would have been different.
 
Embattled on all sides, criticised by his own comrades, faced with chaos and civil war and mass starvation in the countryside, he pushed on ruthlessly - even when, in 1932, his wife Nadya committed suicide, in part as a protest against the famine.

'It seems in some regions of Ukraine, Soviet power has ceased to exist,' he wrote.

'Check the problem and take measures.' That meant the destruction of any resistance.

Stalin created a draconian law that any hungry peasant who stole even a husk of grain was to be shot - the notorious Misappropriation of Socialist Property law.
 
'If we don't make an effort, we might lose Ukraine,' Stalin said, almost in panic.

He dispatched ferocious punitive expeditions led by his henchmen, who engaged in mass murders and executions.

Not just Ukraine was targeted - Molotov, for example, headed to the Urals, the Lower Volga and Siberia. Lazar Kaganovich, a close associate of Stalin, crushed the Kuban and Siberia regions where famine was also rife.
 
Train tickets were restricted and internal passports were introduced so that it became impossible for peasants to flee the famine areas.

Stalin called the peasants 'saboteurs' and declared it 'a fight to the death! These people deliberately tried to sabotage the Soviet stage'.

Between four and five million died in Ukraine, a million died in Kazakhstan and another million in the north Caucasus and the Volga.
 
By 1933, 5.7 million households - somewhere between ten million and 15 million people - had vanished. They had been deported, shot or died of starvation.

As for Stalin, he emerged more ruthless, more paranoid, more isolated than before.
 
Stalin later told Winston Churchill that this was the most difficult time of his entire life, harder even than Hitler's invasion.
 
'It was a terrible struggle' in which he had 'to destroy ten million. It was fearful. Four years it lasted - but it was absolutely necessary'.

Only in the mind of a brutal dictator could the mass murder of his own people be considered 'necessary'.

Whether it was genocide or not, perhaps now the true nature of one of the worst crimes in history will finally be acknowledged.

• Sashenka, a novel of love, family, death and betrayal in 20th century Russia, by Simon Sebag Montefiore, is out now.
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 12:22:01 pm »
Oh China  - - -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics
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China
 
Main article: Firearm ownership law in China
 
Gun ownership in the People's Republic of China is heavily regulated by law. Generally, private citizens are not allowed to possess guns.
 
Guns can be used by law enforcement, the military and paramilitary, and security personnel protecting property of state importance (including the arms industry, financial institutions, storage of resources, and scientific research institutions).
 
Civilian ownership of guns is largely restricted to authorised, non-individual entities, including sporting organisations, authorised hunting reserves and wild life protection, management and research organizations. The chief exception to the general ban for individual gun ownership is for the purpose of hunting.[16][17]
 
Illegal possession or sale of firearms may result in a minimum punishment of 3 years in prison, with the maximum being the death penalty (needs better citation).[18]
 
Gun ownership in Hong Kong and Macau is tightly controlled and possession is mainly in the hands of law enforcement, military, and private security firms (providing protection for jewelers and banks). Still, possessing, manufacturing and import/exporting airsoft guns with a muzzle energy not above two joules of kinetic energy is legal to citizens in China's SARs. Under the Section 13 of Cap 238 Firearms and Ammunition Ordinance of the Hong Kong law, unrestricted firearms and ammunition requires a license,[19] and those found in possession without a license could be fined HKD$100,000 and imprisonment for up to 14 years

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China to expand use of lethal injections for death sentences - 2008 - 2011

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/159667.stm
World: Asia-Pacific - Mass execution in China  Thursday, August 27, 1998 Published



By Colin Blane in Beijing
Thirty convicted criminals have been shot by firing-squad in the biggest mass execution held so far in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen which borders Hong Kong. ...

http://www.globaltimes.cn/china/editor-picks/2009-05/432236.html
China - Illegal guns: booming business & fatal problem Source: The Global Times [07:41 May 25 2009]

Police in Mudanjiang, Heilongjiang Province, prepare to destroy a haul of 375 illegal guns and more than 300 knives last year. Although it is illegal for civilians to own guns in China, crime involving firearms has been on the rise in recent years. Photo: Xinhua
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China has enacted its current law on gun control in 1996. It forbids the private manufacture, sale, transport, possession, import or export of bullets and guns, including replicas.

Those found guilty of selling, manufacturing or possessing guns face penalties ranging from three years’ jail to the death penalty.
Despite the law, there has been a rapid rise in gun crime in recent years.
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Some 79,000 illegal firearms were confiscated last year, three times as many as in 2007, it said.
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“Most of the guns confiscated from village workshops in rural Chongqing are shotguns,” he said.
“They can also make handguns that are very similar to standard guns.”

Zhong Chengyong, who was tried in March for making 44 guns in a secret workshop in Lianjiang, Guangdong Province, said he could make one pistol every two hours using digital technology, police said at the time.

Although the guns cost less than 300 yuan ($44) to make, they easily sell for at least 3,000 yuan, a man surnamed Wu from Guizhou said in July.

In Yuyao, Zhejiang Province, guns can sell for 8,000 yuan each, while a gun-maker surnamed Yang from Guizhou Province said his weapons sold for 1,500 yuan each and that he had made 30 rifles and 329 bullets, Law and News, a monthly magazine from the Ministry of Justice, reported in February.
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 08:51:24 pm »

http://libcom.org/library/hungarian-revolution-1956

The Hungarian Revolution: 1956

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http://libcom.org/history/articles/hungary-56/
1956: The Hungarian Revolution

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The history of the Hungarian workers' revolution against the Communist dictatorship. A general strike was declared, and workers' councils sprung up across the country.

In cities the workers armed themselves and fraternised with the troops, but were eventually crushed by Soviet tanks.
 
It is not out of love for nostalgia that we are commemorating the 1956 Hungarian uprising: Hungary '56 was a prime example of the working class itself reaching for power. Doubly significant, it took place in one of the mythical 'workers' states'.

It showed for many, throughout the world, a new alternative to capitalism and Soviet communism - read state capitalism - and it galvanised movements towards genuine revolutionary politics.
 
“Fascists”
 When the Soviet Army swept into Eastern Europe towards the end of the Second World War, they did not in fact liberate workers and peasants. The same system as before continued to exist, with Stalin giving backing to reactionary governments.

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Hope
 Joseph Stalin died on March 6, 1953. The hopes of workers rose: they thought there was a chance of ending the dictatorship over the proletariat.

Later that year, there were risings in Czechoslovakia and East Germany, which were quickly suppressed.

In the USSR a strike movement began on July 20 involving 250,000 slaves in the forced labour camps. The Stalinists responded by executing 120. This upsurge among the workers of the Iron Curtain countries forced the Party bosses to take a softer line.

At the 20th Congress of the Russian Communist Party in February 1956, Khruschev began to denounce Stalin. This was followed almost immediately by the Poznan revolt in Poland. Polish tanks crushed the revolt.
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Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 09:02:50 pm »
http://www.davekopel.com/2a/mags/crcommst.htm
Communist Gun Control
by Dave Kopel

Gun World, 1990. A more detailed examination of the subject, with footnotes and citations, is available in David B. Kopel, Paul Gallant and Joanne D. Eisen, Firearms Possession by 'Non-State Actors': The Question of Sovereignty, Texas Review of Law & Politics, Vol. 8, No. 2, pp. 373-436 (2004). http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=742647


The Soviet Communist empire lurches closer to collapse every day. As this column is written in early January, there is no way to predict exactly what the crisis of Communism will bring in the next several months. What is clear already, however, is that Communists and other dictators are entirely correct in their fear of an armed populace.

With the exception of Rumania, the countries of the Warsaw Pact have so far made the transition from dictatorship to democracy without violence. Does this prove that in the modern world, the right to bear arms no longer has any relation to political liberty? Not at all.

The collapse of the Soviet empire did not begin in Grenada in 1983, or in Poland in 1980, but rather in Afghanistan in 1979. In December of that year, General Secretary Brezhnev ordered a surprise attack on the U.S.S.R.'s southern neighbor, to prop up a local Communist regime that was on the verge of being overthrown by Muslim guerrillas.

The Red Army quickly seized the cities and took control of the government. Most of the world expected that the Soviet conquest would be completed in a matter of weeks, and the Afghanistan itself would be absorbed into the U.S.S.R. as a Soviet "Republic."

But the Afghans, like the Swiss, are a proud and independent mountain people who have maintained their freedom for centuries through force of arms. The gun culture of Afghanistan is as strong as any on the planet. The Afghans had a long tradition of expert gunsmithing. Using tools inferior to those in the Sears catalogue, Afghan gunsmiths began turning out home-made versions of the Soviet army's Kalashnikov rifles. Pakistani gunsmiths across the border found a lucrative business in selling home-made guns to the rebels.

And the Afghan people knew how to use the guns. Explained one rebel commander to a New York Times reporter, "All tribesmen are trained in the use of guns from childhood, in their home villages."

The imperial Soviet army tried every trick in the book: carpet bombing, chemical warfare, anti-personnel explosives disguised as toys for children to pick up, crop destruction to starve the people into submission. Yet the "primitive" mountain people of Afghanistan fought the mightiest army in the history of the world to a draw for seven years. When the U.S. finally began providing Stinger missiles to the rebels in 1986, the Soviets lost control of the air. The Kremlin acknowledged that its imperial appetite was larger than its imperial capacity, and the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan began.

But it was too late for the Kremlin; the Afghan warriors had already set the dominos of the Soviet empire tumbling. In Poland in the early 1980s, the Solidarnosc movement began a social revolution. Union leader Lech Walesa credited the Afghan rebels with creating the essential breathing space for Solidarnosc. Bogged down in an unwinnable war in Afghanistan, the Soviet army was reluctant to undertake an invasion of Poland to crush Solidarnosc.

Within the Soviet Union, the failure of the invasion of Afghanistan fanned popular resentment against a regime that had sent its young men to die for nothing. Even Communist Party apparatchiks began to see that the Soviet military was not an infallible solution to Soviet problems.

In the closing months of 1989, the Soviet imperial decay reached an advanced stage, and Communist governments were peacefully ousted in Poland, East Germany, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Bulgaria. Private gun ownership had little to do with the change of power in these countries. In each country the economy was falling apart, and when the Gorbachev regime told the Eastern European Communists that they were on their own, the Communist governments yielded to the rising tide of popular demands.

Freedom was allowed to come to eastern Europe in 1989 thanks to the self-restraint of the Soviet army. Freedom could have come a generation ago, but was repeatedly crushed by the Red army: in East Germany in 1953, Hungary in 1956, and Czechoslovakia in 1968.

One reason that the Soviet army succeeded in those bloody episodes of subjugation was that the people of East Germany, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia lacked the arms with which to fight a guerilla war.

Had the Poles and Czechs and Hungarians been as well armed as the Afghans, Eastern Europe might not have had to wait till 1989 for permission from the Kremlin to be free.

Indeed, the best testimony to the power of an armed populace is the vigor with which the Warsaw Pact dictatorships enforced gun control.

When the Communists took over Bulgaria on September 9, 1944, they immediately confiscated every weapon in private possession.

In East Germany, private gun ownership was outlawed, although citizens were allowed to rent hunting guns for one-day periods.

Immediately after World War II, Hungary was governed by a coalition of democrats and Communists. Preparing the way for a total Communist takeover Laszlo Rajk, the Communist Minister of the Interior, ordered the dissolution of all pistol and hunting clubs, as well as of other organizations which might prove a threat to government power. Rajk claimed he acted "in order to more efficiently protect the democratic system of the state."

Poland, on the other hand, did allow limited ownership of registered target guns with a license from the so-called "Citizen's Militia." In December 1981, Poland's dictator, General Jaruzelski, decided that Solidarnosc had gone too far. He declared martial law, arrested all the pro-democracy leaders he could find, and ordered all firearms and ammunition be turned over to the government.

Nowhere was gun control fiercer than in Rumania. The dictatorship of Nicolai Ceausescu used registration lists to confiscate all firearms in private hands. The government also registered (but did not confiscate) typewriters.

Ceausescu, the "Comrade Supreme Commander", enjoyed bear hunting with his Holland & Holland custom British rifle. The Securitate (the secret police) manufactured all of Ceausescu's clothes for him, including German-style hunting outfits. Each item of clothing would be worn only once, and then burned.

Sportsmanship was not Ceausescu's style. Squads of Rumanian forest rangers would spend all their time preparing an area for a bear hunt. The rangers would tie down half of a dead horse near a watering hole. When a large bear began feeding there, the rangers would notify Ceausescu. He would arrive by helicopter at three a.m., and leave with a bear skin by five.

Frustrated by missing a few shots in the dark, Ceausescu had his security forces steal Western military infrared scopes, for his night-time hunting forays. High Communist party officials in other countries, such as East Germany and Czechoslovakia also enjoyed hunting, and maintained expensive hunting lodges at government expense, while the people went short of meat and fruit.

The Ceaucescu regime fell when the Rumanian army turned against the government, and refused to shoot protestors in the streets.

Had the Rumanians been well-armed, the population might not have had to endure 45 years of brutal dictatorship, waiting until the regime alienated even the Communist army officers.

In the days following the revolution, Ceaucescu's secret police, the Securitate, waged a vicious counter-revolutionary campaign against the population, much like the one carried out by Manuel Noriega's "Dignity" battalions after the American invasion.

In December 1989, both Panamanian and Rumanian citizens took up arms to defend themselves after theirs dictatorships were toppled. A fair number of Panamanian citizens already owned guns, and were able to speedily form Vigilance Committees to protect their neighborhoods.

Most Rumanians, though, had never touched a gun until they picked up a Kalashnikov assault rifle from the dead hands of a Securitate soldier. One can only speculate about how many Rumanian citizens were mowed down by Securitate because the citizens lacked the first idea about how to fire an automatic effectively, how to clear a firing chamber jam, or how to use a rifle sight.

The final story of Eastern Europe is yet to be written. What we do know so far is that the flames of revolution, which now threaten to engulf the Soviet Union itself, were first kindled in the Soviet empire by the brave people of Afghanistan, who took up arms and laid down their lives so that their nation would not perish from the earth.

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2013, 02:03:31 am »
Never a chance of firing, Jerry... "Scarry Gun Art"... love the toe nail clippers and copper plumbing fittings used in the last one...

No doubt, under the present climate, you would be arrested and incarcerated by the idiotic and dumbed down, just for possession of one of these scarry "looking" sculptures... and heaven forbid a child should even have a picture of one of these... and take it to school... oooh, banish the thought.

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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 04:49:17 am »

Why Democide?
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP1.HTM


Mega-site for democide
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2013, 07:47:52 am »
The Human Cost of Gun Control: (A clearer copy of the original post)
http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf

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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2013, 09:21:47 am »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Rummel
Rudolph Rummel


Rummel is the creator of the term democide: "the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder". He has further stated: "I use the civil definition of murder, where someone can be guilty of murder if they are responsible in a reckless and wanton way for the loss of life, as in incarcerating people in camps where the may soon die of malnutrition, unattended disease, and forced labor, or deporting them into wastelands where they may die rapidly from exposure and disease."

His research concludes that the death toll from democide is far greater than the death toll from war. After studying over 8,000 reports of government-caused deaths, he estimates that there have been 262 million victims of democide in the last century[7] and that six times as many people have died at the hands of people working for governments than have died in battle.

He argues that there is a relation between political power and democide. Political mass murder grows increasingly common as political power becomes unconstrained. At the other end of the scale, where power is diffuse, checked, and balanced, political violence is a rarity.

"The more power a regime has, the more likely people will be killed. This is a major reason for promoting freedom."

He concludes: "Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth."
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2013, 09:26:12 am »
Never a chance of firing, Jerry... "Scarry Gun Art"... love the toe nail clippers and copper plumbing fittings used in the last one...

No doubt, under the present climate, you would be arrested and incarcerated by the idiotic and dumbed down, just for possession of one of these scarry "looking" sculptures... and heaven forbid a child should even have a picture of one of these... and take it to school... oooh, banish the thought.

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2013, 10:48:27 am »
A couple of more good pages on gun control - - -

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Schemes to confiscate firearms kept by peaceable citizens have historically been associated with some of the world's most insidious tyrannies. Given this reality, it is not surprising that law-abiding gun owners oppose being objects of registration

http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id14.html
Hitler was a Leftist - Nazi Gun Control


German poster from occupied France imposing the death penalty for not turning in all firearms and radio transmitters within 24 hours (click for closeup). For translation, see below. From Musée de l'Ordre de la Libération, Paris. (Photo by Philippe Fraysseix, Paris)
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Other European countries also had laws requiring police records to be kept on persons who possessed firearms. When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939, it was a simple matter to identify gun owners. Many of them disappeared in the middle of the night along with political opponents.
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While the Nazis made good on the threat to execute persons in possession of firearms, the gun control decree was not entirely successful. Partisans launched armed attacks. But resistance was hampered by the lack of civilian arms possession.

In 1941, U.S. Attorney General Robert Jackson called on Congress to enact national registration of all firearms.8 Given events in Europe, Congress recoiled, and legislation was introduced to protect the Second Amendment.

Rep. Edwin Arthur Hall explained: "Before the advent of Hitler or Stalin, who took power from the German and Russian people, measures were thrust upon the free legislatures of those countries to deprive the people of the possession and use of firearms, so that they could not resist the encroachments of such diabolical and vitriolic state police organizations as the Gestapo, the Ogpu, and the Cheka."
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Armed citizens were hurting the Nazis, who took the sternest measures. The Nazis imposed the death penalty on a Pole or Jew: "If he is in unlawful possession of firearms, . . . or if he has credible information that a Pole or a Jew is in unlawful possession of such objects, and fails to notify the authorities forthwith."15

Given the above facts, it is not difficult to understand why the National Rifle Association opposed gun registration at the time and still does. The American Riflemen for February 1942 reported:

From Berlin on January 6th the German official radio broadcast--"The German military commander for Belgium and Northern France announced yesterday that the population would be given a last opportunity to surrender firearms without penalty up to January 20th and after that date anyone found in possession of arms would be executed."

So the Nazi invaders set a deadline similar to that announced months ago in Czecho-Slovakia, in Poland, in Norway, in Romania, in Yugo-Slavia, in Greece.

How often have we read the familiar dispatches "Gestapo agents accompanied by Nazi troopers swooped down on shops and homes and confiscated all privately-owned firearms!"

What an aid and comfort to the invaders and to their Fifth Column cohorts have been the convenient registration lists of privately owned firearms--lists readily available for the copying or stealing at the Town Hall in most European cities.

What a constant worry and danger to the Hun and his Quislings have been the privately owned firearms in the homes of those few citizens who have "neglected" to register their guns!16

During the war years the Rifleman regularly included pleas for American sportsmen to "send a gun to defend a British home.17 British civilians, faced with the threat of invasion, desperately need arms for the defense of their homes." Indeed, the New York Times carried the same solicitations. After two decades of gun control, British citizens now desperately needed rifles and pistols in their homes, and they received the gifts with great appreciation. Organized into the Home Guard, armed citizens were now ready to resist the expected Nazi onslaught.

With so many men and guns sent abroad to fight the war, America still needed defending from expected invasions on the East and West coasts, domestic sabotage, and Fifth Column activity. Sportsmen and gun clubs responded by bringing their private arms and volunteering for the state protective forces.18
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Individual criminals wreak their carnage on individuals or small numbers of people. As this century has shown, terrorist governments have the capacity to commit genocide against millions of people, provided that the people are unarmed.

Schemes to confiscate firearms kept by peaceable citizens have historically been associated with some of the world's most insidious tyrannies. Given this reality, it is not surprising that law-abiding gun owners oppose being objects of registration.



http://www.mercyseat.net/gun_genocide.html

Gun Control & Genocide
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In 1931, amidst rising gang violence (the gangs being Nazi and Communist youths), carrying knives or truncheons in public was made illegal, except for persons who had firearm carry permits under the 1928 law. Acquisition of firearms and ammunition permits was made subject to proof of "need." [28]
 
When the Nazis took power in 1933, they apparently found that the 1928 gun control laws served their purposes; not until 1938 did the Nazis bother to replace the 1928 law. The leaving of the Weimar law in place cannot be attributed to lethargy on the Nazis' part; unlike some other totalitarian governments (such as the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia), the Nazis paid great attention to legal draftsmanship and issued a huge volume of laws and regulations. [29] The only immediate change the Nazis made to the gun laws was to bar the import of handguns. [30]
 
Shortly after the Nazis took power, they began house-to-house searches to discover firearms in the homes of suspected opponents. They claimed to find large numbers of weapons in the hands of subversives. [31] How many weapons the Nazis actually recovered may never be known. But as historian William Sheridan Allen pointed out in his study of the Nazi rise to power in one town: "Whether or not all the weapon discoveries reported in the local press were authentic is unimportant. The newspapers reported whatever they were told by the police, and what people believed was what was more important than what was true." [32]
 
Four days after Hitler's triumphant Anschluss of Austria in March 1938, the Nazis finally enacted their own firearms laws. Additional controls were layered on the 1928 Weimar law: Persons under eighteen were forbidden to buy firearms or ammunition; a special permit was introduced for handguns; Jews were barred from businesses involving firearms; Nazi officials were exempted from the firearms permit system; silencers were outlawed; twenty-two caliber cartridges with hollow points were banned; and firearms which could fold or break down "beyond the common limits of hunting and sporting activities" became illegal. [33]
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Cambodia
 
Also enjoying a comfortable post-genocide life is Pol Pot, the perpetrator of the best known mass-murders of the post-World War II era.
 
Cambodian gun control was a legacy of French colonialism
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Cambodia was a poor country, and few people could afford guns. [102] On the other hand, the chaos that accompanies any war might have given some Cambodians the opportunity to acquire firearms from corrupt or dead soldiers. There is no solid evidence about how many Cambodians, with no cultural history of firearms ownership, attempted to do so. [103]
 
As soon as the Khmer Rouge took power, they immediately set out to disarm the populace. One Cambodian recalls that
 
Eang [a woman] watched soldiers stride onto the porches of the houses and knock on the doors and ask the people who answered if they had any weapons. "We are here now to protect you," the soldiers said, "and no one has a need for a weapon any more." People who said that they kept no weapons were forced to stand aside and allow the soldiers to look for themselves. . . . The round-up of weapons took nine or ten days, and once the soldiers had concluded the villagers were no longer armed, they dropped their pretense of friendliness. . . . The soldiers said everyone would have to leave the village for a while, so that the troops could search for weapons; when the search was finished, they could return. [104]
 
People being forced out of villages and cities were searched thoroughly, and weapons and foreign currency were confiscated. [105] To the limited extent that Cambodians owned guns through the government licensing system, the names of registered gun owners were of course available to the new government. [106]
 
The Cambodian genocide was unique in the twentieth century, in that its target was not a single ethnic, religious, or political group, but rather the entire educated populace. Lacking infrastructure for sophisticated Nazi-style extermination camps, the Khmer Rouge used the genocide methods which had been used by the Turkish government (internal deportations with forced marches designed to kill), the Soviet government (hard labor under conditions likely to kill), and the Guatemalan government (murders of targeted victims). [107]
 
Like other victims of genocide, the Cambodians forced into slave labor were kept so desperately hungry that revolt became difficult to contemplate, as every thought focused on food.
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Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2013, 06:08:19 pm »
What happened after gun confiscation in the Soviet Union - 1917

http://www.fightthebias.com/quotes/lenin.htm
"Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless." --Vladimir Ilich Lenin

http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-york-gov-andrew-cuomo-on-gun-control-confiscation-could-be-an-option/
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo On Gun Control: ‘Confiscation Could Be An Option’by Andrew Kirell | 2:17 pm, December 21st, 2012

http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left/soviet/atheism1.html
Inquiry Reveals Lenin Unleashed Systematic Murder of 200,000 Clergy

Philippa Fletcher,  Reuters, Hobart Mercury, Australia,
November 29, 1995

A Russian presidential commission confirmed yesterday that 200,000 clergy were systematically murdered under Soviet rule in a horrific cycle of crucifixions, scalpings and other “bestial tortures.”

Commission chairman Alexander Yakovlev, presenting the report at a news conference, seemed unconcerned the disclosure might deter electors from voting communist or nationalist in parliamentary elections on December 17, and he added: “If it has an influence, I will be very satisfied.” The report by the Commission for the Rehabilitation of the Victims of Political Repression also found another 500,000 religious figures had suffered persecution in the decades after Lenin’s Bolsheviks seized power.

“Documents relate how clergymen, monks, nuns were crucified on royal gates and shot in the basements of the Cheka [secret police], scalped, strangled, drowned and submitted to other bestial tortures,” he said.

Yakovlev said some of the material, from archives of the former ruling politburo and security services, had not been previously published and that uncovering it had been traumatic.

“I was especially shocked by accounts of priests turned into columns of ice in winter. But that’s not all, there were crucifixions... it was total cruelty.” Yakovlev said hundreds of people were shot for not giving up church property, and only a fraction of the proceeds were spent on the poor, as had been promised. “The rest went on the world revolution and to open foreign bank accounts for our leaders,” Yakovlev said.
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Of 48,000 churches in Russia before 1917, only 7000 remained by 1969, and Islamic and Jewish religious buildings had suffered in similar proportion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

The mass repressions were conducted by the Cheka (the Bolshevik secret police),[3] together with elements of the Bolshevik military intelligence agency (the GRU).[4]
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Atrocities
 
Excavation of a mass grave outside the headquarters of the Kharkov Cheka

At these times, there were numerous reports that Cheka interrogators utilized torture methods which were, according to Orlando Figes, "matched only by the Spanish Inquisition."[25]

At Odessa the Cheka tied White officers to planks and slowly fed them into furnaces or tanks of boiling water;
In Kharkiv, scalpings and hand-flayings were commonplace: the skin was peeled off victims' hands to produce "gloves";
The Voronezh Cheka rolled naked people around in barrels studded internally with nails;
victims were crucified or stoned to death at Dnipropetrovsk;
the Cheka at Kremenchuk impaled members of the clergy and buried alive rebelling peasants;
in Orel, water was poured on naked prisoners bound in the winter streets until they became living ice statues;
 in Kiev, Chinese Cheka detachments placed rats in iron tubes sealed at one end with wire netting and the other placed against the body of a prisoner, with the tubes being heated until the rats gnawed through the victim's body in an effort to escape.[26]
 
Executions took place in prison cellars or courtyards, or occasionally on the outskirts of town, during the Red Terror and Russian civil war. After the condemned were stripped of their clothing and other belongings, which were shared among the Cheka executioners, they were either machine-gunned in batches or dispatched individually with a revolver.

Those killed in prison were usually shot in the back of the neck as they entered the execution cellar, which became littered with corpses and soaked with blood. Victims killed outside the town were conveyed by lorry, bound and gagged, to their place of execution, where they sometimes were made to dig their own graves.[27]
 
According to Edvard Radzinsky, "it became a common practice to take a husband hostage and wait for his wife to come and purchase his life with her body".[3] D

uring Decossackization, there were massacres, according to historian Robert Gellately, "on an unheard of scale."

The Pyatigorsk Cheka organized a "day of Red Terror" to execute 300 people in one day, and took quotas from each part of town.

According to the Chekist Karl Lander, the Cheka in Kislovodsk, "for lack of a better idea," killed all the patients in the hospital.

In October 1920 alone more than 6,000 people were executed. Gellately adds that Communist leaders "sought to justify their ethnic-based massacres by incorporating them into the rubric of the 'class struggle'".[28]
 
Members of the clergy were subjected to particularly brutal abuse. According to documents cited by the late Alexander Yakovlev, then head of the Presidential Committee for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression, priests, monks and nuns were crucified, thrown into cauldrons of boiling tar, scalped, strangled, given Communion with melted lead and drowned in holes in the ice.[29] An estimated 3,000 were put to death in 1918 alone.[29]
 
Estimates for the total number of people killed in the Red Terror range from 50,000[30] to over a million


http://www.amazon.com/A-Century-Violence-Soviet-Russia/dp/0300103220
A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia [Paperback]
Mr. Alexander N. Yakovlev (Author), Anthony Austin (Translator), Paul Hollander (Foreword)

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INDUSTRIALIST & PHILANTHROPIST ARMAND HAMMER — SIGNED PHOTO
HE BRAGGED THAT HE WAS THE ONLY MAN TO HAVE KNOWN BOTH LENIN AND RONALD REAGAN

 
Armand Hammer (1898–1990) ... He went to the Soviet Russia in 1921 to provide medical aid to famine victims and was persuaded by Lenin to remain. His ventures, including a pencil-manufacturing firm, were bought out by the Soviets in the late 1920s, and he returned to the U.S. laden with artworks formerly owned by the Romanov family.
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He often bragged that he was the only man to have known both Vladimir Lenin and Ronald Reagan.
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Color 8x10 photo is signed by Hammer in white margin at the bottom. Note: Top margin has NOT been trimmed; photo measures a full 8 x 10”. In exc. condition. net  $125.00


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Duranty
Walter Duranty (1884–October 3, 1957) was a Liverpool-born British Jewish journalist who served as the New York Times Moscow bureau chief from 1922 through 1936. Duranty won a Pulitzer Prize in 1932 for a set of stories written in 1931 on the Soviet Union. Duranty's reporting has fallen into disrepute primarily because of his reports denying the famine in Ukraine. He has also been criticized for his favorable portrayals of Stalin and his uncritical coverage of Stalin's show trials.

Walter Duranty was Armand Hammer's his first biographer

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THE QUEST OF THE ROMANOFF TREASURE. BY ARMAND HAMMER. FOREWORD BY WALTER DURANTY. New York: William Farquhar Payson, 1932. First Edition. Very Scarce.


Lenin signed photo for Armand Hammer


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War Communism", the Red Terror, and Lenin's Famine

Almost immediately after they seized power, Lenin's Bolsheviks inaugurated an endless stream of economic decrees and policies.
These proved to be disastrous, resulting in a horrific famine, depopulation of the cities, and an enormous decline in living standards.


So unpopular were these policies that after they were finally altered in mid 1921, Lenin tried to re-write their history. It was at this point that the Bolsheviks economic policies from 1918-1921 were dubbed "War Communism," and declared to have been a temporary expedient forced upon Lenin's government by wartime conditions.

In fact, so-called "War Communism" began before serious fighting erupted, and continued after the Whites had been decisively defeated. It was not a wartime expedient; it was the policy that Lenin wanted to pursue in war or peace.

As Pipes explains, "War Communism as a whole was not a 'temporary measure' but an ambitious and as it turned out premature attempt to introduce full-blown communism." (The Russian Revolution) As noted earlier, Lenin's ideas on desirable economic policy were vague at best. So upon taking power, he looked around the world for inspiration; what caught his eye was the "War Socialism" of the German Kaiser.
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As the economy deteriorated, the Cheka waxed ever fatter.

After an July 1918 revolt by SRs, the Cheka turned its guns on fellow socialists, executing 350 captured SR rebels. One month later, the SR Fanya Kaplan nearly succeeded in assassinating Lenin.  Her noble effort unfortunately gave the Cheka the excuse to initiate the Red Terror, i.e., mass executions of people based not upon their actions but their class origins and beliefs.

As Landauer explains, "The first conspicuous act of government-ordered reprisals on a large scale without regard for individual guilt came after the assassination of Michael Uritzky and the attempt on Lenin's life on August 30. These events were not in themselves apt to justify measures against the bourgeoisie, for the two assassins, Kenigiesser and Fania Kaplan, were both members of the Social Revolutionary party and therefore not "bourgeois." But the minds of the Soviet leaders were dominated by the theory that Social Revolutionaries and Mensheviks were tools of the "class enemy," and it appeared logical to the Bolsheviks to strike at the group which allegedly had inspired the assassination. 

Five hundred hostages were shot in reprisal in Petrograd alone by order of Zinoviev, the head of the local soviet. On September 5, the people's commissars officially legalized the red terror..." (European Socialism: A History of Ideas and Movements)

From then on the Cheka's executions never ceased.

The exact number murdered is usually estimated at between 100,000 and 500,000, but the chaotic wartime conditions make the accounting especially difficult.

But execution was not the Cheka's only tool; it also pioneered the development of the modern slave labor (or "concentration") camp.

Inmates were generally frankly treated as government-owned slaves, and used for the most demanding sorts of work - such as digging arctic canals - while receiving pitifully small rations. As Pipes explains,

"Soviet concentration camps, as instituted in 1919, were meant to be a place of confinement for all kinds of undesirables, whether sentenced by courts or by administrative organs. Liable to confinement in them were not only individuals but also 'categories of individuals' - that is, entire classes: Dzerzhinskii at one point proposed that special concentration camps be erected for the 'bourgeoisie.' Living in forced isolation, the inmates formed a pool of slave labor on which Soviet administrative and economic institutions could draw at no cost." (The Russian Revolution) The number of people in these camps according to Pipes was about 50,000 prisoners in 1920 and 70,000 in 1923; many of these did not survive the inhuman conditions.

The mildest manifestation of the Red Terror was the official policy excluding "class enemies" entirely from the wartime rationing system; i.e., legally, it was often impossible for disfavored groups to even purchase food.

As Landauer simply puts it: "As a consequence, the average "bourgeois" had only the choice between death and illegal activities." (European Socialism: A History of Ideas and Movements) Bourgeoisie with valued technical training could usually get around these rules, but otherwise their plight - and the plight of their families - was bleak indeed, though naturally far better than the inmates of the slave labor camps.

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http://markhumphrys.com/soviet.html
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The Lenin / Trotsky period, 1917-24
Some people think Lenin and Trotsky were "not as bad" as Stalin, that the 1917 revolution was not criminal from the start, but only became criminal later.

This is one of the greatest lies in history. Lenin and Trotsky killed 4 million people - men, women and children - by mass executions, death camps, and state-caused famine. See [The Black Book of Communism] for a good introduction to their genocide, which started as soon as they got into power in 1917.

The resistance

All across the Russian countryside in 1917-22, there were riots and uprisings as heroic peasants tried desperately to hold on to their freedom. They were well aware of the nature of the scum that had taken over their country. These forgotten heroes were killed by the million.

Their families - men, women and children - were executed or sent to death camps. Their villages were burnt, and even bombed with chemical weapons by the monsters Lenin and Trotsky.

Russian Whites and Anti-Communists
The Tambov rebellion of 1920
It is true that the anti-communist resistance came in many forms, from liberal democrats to socialist anarchists to Jew-hating nationalists. The latter carried out hundreds of pogroms of Jews. In some areas, the Russian civil war was a conflict between communism and democracy. In other areas, it was a conflict between communism and fascism. But no crimes by (some of) their enemies can justify the crimes of Lenin and Trotsky.

The famine
Russian famine of 1921


The Bolsheviks destroyed Russia's economy. By 1920 the ruble had lost 96 percent of its value.
Lenin and Trotsky's oppression became ferocious as the cities ran out of food due to the collapse of the economy, caused by themselves and their stupid Marxist ideas. Innocent rural Russia was robbed of its food and butchered and starved by the parasitical (literally) urban communists.

The Bolsheviks started a massive program of confiscating the food of the countryside, and starved them into submission. The monsters Lenin and Trotsky deliberately started a famine as a political weapon.

They caused the massive famine of 1921-2, deliberately killing 2.5 million men, women and little children, according to [Rudolph J. Rummel], or 5 million, according to [The Black Book of Communism].

The genocide of the Cossacks in 1919
The Red Terror in Russia, by Sergei Melgunov, 1925, told the world about the early Bolshevik atrocities, under Lenin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decossackization

the Bolshevik policy of systematic repressions against Cossacks of the Don and the Kuban between 1917 and 1921 aimed at the elimination of the cossackhood as a separate social, political, and economic entity.
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In November 1920 Feliks Dzerzhinsky, head of the Cheka, reported to Lenin:

"the republic has to organize the internment in camps of about 100,000 prisoners from the Southern front and vast masses of people expelled from the rebellious [Cossack] settlements of the Terek, the Kuban, and the Don. Today 403 Cossack men and women aged between 14 and 17 arrived in Oryol for internment in concentration camp. They cannot be accepted as Oryol is already overloaded
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University of York Russian specialist Shane O'Rourke states that "ten thousand Cossacks were slaughtered systematically in a few weeks in January 1919" and that this "was one of the main factors which led to the disappearance of the Cossacks as a nation."[5]

The late Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, head of the Presidential Committee for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Political Repression, notes that "hundreds of thousands of Cossacks were killed."[20] Historian Robert Gellately claims that "the most reliable estimates indicate that between 300,000 and 500,000 were killed or deported in 1919-20." This out of a population of around three million
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Research by P. Polian from Russia's Academy of Sciences on the subject of forced migrations in Russia shows that more than 45,000 Cossacks were deported from the Terek province to Ukraine. Their land was distributed among pro-soviet Cossacks and Chechens

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http://en.rian.ru/society/20120731/174886698.html
19:35 31/07/2012
MOSCOW, July 31 (RIA Novosti, Alexey Eremenko)

In December 1917, weeks after coming to power, the Bolsheviks launched a drive to confiscate all firearms from the hands of the Russian populace. They never gave them back.

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Smile and Carry a Handgun
 
The discussion on gun control in Russia was revived after Senator Alexander Torshin of the ruling United Russia party proposed last week to legalize selling handguns to citizens.
 
In his report to the Federation Council, the upper chamber of the federal legislature, Torshin cited the example of the former Soviet Republic of Moldova, where after handguns became freely available for purchase in 1995, murder rates dropped by 20 percent.
 
There are six million guns already in private hands in Russia, Torshin said. But most of them are hunting guns not made to be concealed and therefore not a handy means of self-defense, he said.
 
Handguns “will make our society better,” Torshin said last week, media reported. “Look at America, everyone’s smiling there.”
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Sydney Morning Herald - April 7 1919 - Lenin's Regime - Terrible Atrocities



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LEON TROTSKY - CYNIC AND SADIST
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The man who transformed Leiba Bronstein into a revolutionary monster under the name of Leon (Lev) Trotsky, was a high ranking Jewish Illuminatus and freemason, Israel Helphand, who had, in a fit of self irony, assumed the somewhat ironic name of Alexander Parvus (Alexander the Small). The way in which Helphand came into contact with Bronstein has not been revealed, even by the very latest research into the matter. It might be presumed that he met Parvus through Lenin, whom he met in the autumn of 1902 in London. It was in 1902 that Bronstein began to call himself Trotsky
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Mr Leiba Bronstein became a freemason in 1897 and later a high-ranking Illuminatus through his friend Alexander Parvus. He also maintained contacts with B'nai B'rith, a Jewish Masonic order, which had previously aided Jewish "revolutionaries" in Russia. A man named Jacob Schiff, chairman of the banking house Kuhn, Loeb & Co. and a minion of the Rothschilds, took care of the contacts between the "revolutionary movement in Russia" and B'nai B'rith. (Gerald B. Winrod, "Adam Weishaupt - A Human Devil", p. 47.)

Leiba Bronstein began to study freemasonry and the history of the secret societies seriously in 1898, and continued these studies during the two years he spent in prison in Odessa. He made notes amounting to over 1000 pages. "International Freimaurer-Lexikon" (Vienna/Munich, 1932, p. 204) reluctantly admits that Leiba Bronstein-Trotsky came to Bolshevism through this study of freemasonry.

As a People's Commissary for Military Affairs, Trotsky introduced the pentagram - the five-pointed star - as the symbol of the Red Army. The Cabbalists had taken over this symbol of black magic from the witches in ancient Chaldea.

By the aid of Alexander Parvus, Trotsky reached the conclusion that the true purpose of freemasonry was to eliminate the national states and their cultures and to introduce a Judaised world state.
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This is also stated in "The Secret Initiation into the 33rd Degree": "Freemasonry is nothing more and nothing less than revolution in action; continuous conspiracy."
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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2013, 02:58:27 pm »
http://www.arlindo-correia.org/gulag.html
Russian amnesia
Arnold Beichman
Published May 4, 2003
     GULAG: A History.      By Anne Applebaum.
      Doubleday. 736 pages. $35

This book is a justifiable indictment not only of the Soviet Union but also, even more justifiably, of its successor state, Russia. And why Russia? Because from President Vladimir Putin down, few Russians today, with honorable exceptions like Alexander Yakovlev, have been willing to face the hideous Gulag history of the criminal Bolshevik dictatorship. And why won't Mr. Putin and the Russian people face up to the crimes of V.I. Lenin, Joseph Stalin and their heirs? Because, said Mr. Putin, an ex-KGB officer, it would be a "mistake to get bogged down in old problems from the past."

     Here are Mr. Putin's own words (Agence France Presse, Jan. 16, 2002) which explain Russia's refusal to face up to its sanguinary past: "We don't want and we will not equate Nazi crimes with Stalinist repression."

     But Mr. Yakovlev, a onetime member of the Soviet Politburo and the intellectual architect of perestroika, sees it differently. Unlike Mr. Putin, he thinks Russia should get "bogged down in old problems from the past." Appointed by Mikhail Gorbachev and reappointed by Boris Yeltsin as chairman of the Russian Presidential Commission for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Repression, he has become the conscience of Russia. He told Anne Applebaum,the author of "Gulag: A History," that "Society is indifferent to the crimes of the past because so many people participated in them."

     Adds Ms. Applebaum: "The Soviet system dragged millions of its citizens into many forms of collaboration and compromise. Although many willingly participated, otherwise decent people were also forced to do terrible things. They, their children, and their grandchildren, do not always want to remember that now."

     The situation is even worse today. Stalin's approval rating is going up, according to All-Russia Center for the Study of Public Opinion. A March 4th report of its latest poll shows that more than half of all Russians, 53 per cent, interviewed the previous month in 100 Russian towns and cities in 40 regions approved of Stalin overall, 33 per cent disapproved and 14 per cent declined to indicate any opinion.

    The seven Bolshevik decades were among the most horrible in modern history. Millions and millions of innocent men, women and little children were slaughtered before the Marxist Moloch. And yet, the author points out, Russia "continues to act as if it has not inherited the Soviet Union's history."

Russia does not have a national museum dedicated to the history of repression nor a national place of mourning, nor "a monument which officially recognizes the suffering of victims and their families."
 
   In fact, Mr. Putin granted a legitimacy to the KGB when, after the November 2000 Duma elections, he and other party leaders in a post-election Kremlin conclave commemorated Stalin's 120th birthday with a toast. Earlier,Mr. Putin placed flowers at Yuri Andropov's grave in Red Square and on his monument at the onetime KGB Lubyanka headquarters.
 
   One result of Mr. Putin's politics of amnesia is that the heroic opponents of the Soviet regime remain unhonored. The dissidents like Andrei Sakharov, Vladimir Bukovsky, Yuri Orlov, and many others who fought the regime at risk of their lives, are unpersons rather than heroes in today's Russia.

In fact, Mr. Putin doesn't even have the guts that Nikita Khrushchev had. in 1956 Khrushchev exposed the horrors of Stalinism. Thanks to Putinist policies, Russia is a country without a past. Or, as Ms. Applebaum puts it, for Russians "The past is a bad dream to be forgotten . . ."

http://www.day.kiev.ua/en/article/culture/moloch-solovky-terror
The Moloch of the Solovky terror
Serhii Shevchenko
22 April, 2008 - 00:00

The mass shootings of 1938

A little over 70 years ago the third mass execution of inmates in the Solovky special-purpose prison (Rus.: STON) since the beginning of the Great Terror took place on the archipelago in the White Sea. According to decree no. 303 of the special troika of the NKVD Directorate for Leningrad oblast, on Feb. 17, 1938, 198 people were executed. One in five of these prisoners was a native or resident of Ukraine.

UNSOLVED MYSTERY

A total of 1,620 inmates were killed as a result of two earlier punitive operations that were carried out in Karelia in 1937 (between Oct. 27 and Nov. 1-4) and on the territory of Leningrad oblast (Dec. 8). A memorial was established on the site of the first execution in the Sandarmokh ravine near Medvezhegorsk in Karelia. As the Russian researcher Aleksandr Cherkasov has written, the condemned prisoners were “processed” for execution in three barrack rooms. In the first one, a member of Mikhail Matveev’s firing squad brigade “identified” the prisoner, stripped him down to his underwear, and searched him. In the next room the prisoners were tied up. In the last room the bound prisoners were stunned by a blow to the back of the head with a wooden mallet.

Then, 40 prisoners at a time were loaded onto a vehicle and covered with a tarpaulin. Guards sat on top of this pile, which was driven to the Sandarmokh ravine. If some of the unconscious prisoners came to, the brigade members would “calm” them down with a blow of their wooden mallets. On this day in early November it was cold, dark, and desolate at the execution site, located more than a kilometer from the highway. The half-dead people were thrown one by one into large prepared pits. Matveev personally shot each one in the head. This is how 1,111 out of 1,116 Solovky condemned prisoners were killed. Owing to various reasons, four prisoners were sent to other prisons, and one died before the execution.

The possible site of the second mass execution (509 prisoners) — the waste ground of Koirankangas — has not been officially recognized, although searchers from the St. Petersburg branch of the Memorial Society found several pits containing the remains of people who were shot at the Rzhishchev testing ground in Leningrad oblast.

Researchers hope to find the final stopping-place of prisoners who were tortured to death according to decree no. 303 on the Solovetsky Archipelago. They expect to find it there because the White Sea is covered with ice in winter, so it was a problem to convoy 200 people under escort to the Karelian coast. However, the theory of the “island execution” has not been confirmed by any evidence, so the mystery remains unsolved.

Decree no. 303 covers 53 pages of dense typewriting and was signed on Feb. 14, 1938, by the special troika of the NKVD Directorate headed by Mikhail Litvin. Litvin was a Jew born in the Transbaikal region, who had been a Bolshevik since 1917. Despite his lack of education, he was an experienced party apparatchik. In March 1933 he was appointed to head the cadres department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Ukraine, and in 1936 he was promoted to the post of second secretary of the Kharkiv oblast committee of the CP(B)U. From October 1936 he headed the cadres department of the NKVD of the Ukrainian SSR. Litvin’s further career advancement led him to the post of head of the 4th (secret- political) department at the GUGB NKVD of the USSR (May 1937), and in January 1938 he became the head of the NKVD Directorate for Leningrad oblast. Within a few months the 46-year-old state security commissar, 3rd rank, would commit suicide by shooting himself.

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2013, 11:19:10 am »
Soviet Black Raven "Gas Trucks"

ALEKSANDR SOLZHENITSYN
Photo taken while in the gulag.



The Black Ravens

These “black ravens,” as the Moscovites called them, transported prisoners from the Cheka’s Lubyanka headquarters into the infamous jails of Lefortovo or Butyrka, both also in Moscow.

The black ravens looked similar to those "poison gas wagons" camouflaged as delivery vans for bakery shops, by whose exhaust gases uncounted kulaks were killed at the beginning of the 1930s in the USSR while being driven from the prisons.

The former Red Army general Peter Grigorenko, who himself was later arrested, described them in his memoirs (Erinnerungen, Munich 1981, p. 274-276.
See Historische Tatsachen No. 48, pp. 35-36.

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I have been seeing many comparisons of late Globally to the Bolshevik take over of Russia ... dehumanization , disarming the populace, Food as a weapon, gulags (refugee centers) concentration camps....

From a Catholic perspective but very interesting:
The Rulers of Russia - American Edition - by Rev Denis Fahey - 1938

The truth about Lenin and the Bolsheviks

The Black Book of Communism

THE RED TERROR IN RUSSIA

15+ pages in and its corroberatable, as long as we translate the focus from Jewish to British Round Table.   Col. E. M. House wrote all about it in a report that's become pretty popular in here:  1919 Report:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/house.htm

Exactly . These events have been written about and published in the pre-WWII period...
The Round table created "Communism" via Marx/Lenin and they control "capitalism" via the central banks ie FEDRES/BIS/BoE...


Today the AlCiaDa is run by CyptoArabs...run by the Mossad...

Update: Found some references :

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2008/02/architects-of-deception-part-xiv.html
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Many Western, and above all French, leading communists kept their masonic membership a secret. The French freemasons (in particular the members of the Grand Orient of France) gave the Soviet communists their whole-hearted support. The freemason Richard N. Coudenhove-Kalergi, on the other hand, wished to establish an anti- communist masonic organization. This did not happen, needless to say. The socialists made up the majority in the Western lodges.

The bolshevik freemasons needed human sacrifices. According to Lenin, they sacrificed people to Molok, as revealed by the defected bolshevik leader Georges Solomon (Georges Solomon, "Among Red Rulers", Stockholm, 1930, p. 56). The name of the demon Molok is derived from the Hebrew expression la-molek ('to the king'), which is used in connection with the sacrifice.

How then did the masonic communists perform their ritual sacrifices to Molok?

A room at the Cheka headquarters in Kiev in 1920 contains a basin, which formerly held goldfish. It was filled with the blood of sacrificed human beings.

Along the walls hooks were placed, where several human corpses were hung. On the shoulders of the officers, shoulder straps had been carved, and the chests of the Christians were carved with crosses. Some had been flayed, leaving bloody carcases on the hooks. On a table was a jar containing a chopped off head in alcohol. The head had belonged to a strikingly handsome man in his thirties (Aleksei Shiropayev, "The Prison of the People", Moscow, 2001, p. 75).

FYI  - Just look for the title: Georges Solomon, "Among Red Rulers", Stockholm, 1930

The guy existed OK?
: http://marxism.halkcephesi.net/Ludo%20Martens/node89.html

or look for: Aleksei Shiropayev "The Prison of the People" Moscow 2001

http://www.velesova-sloboda.org/right/prison.html
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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2013, 11:55:50 am »
Thank you for this post! It is very well presented and informative.

Please check this out as well.

Regards,
Donnie

This is a petition I began because of the ammunition shortage in America. It is on the White House website under "We the People". Please read it and if you agree, sign it and pass it on to as many like minded people you can think of. Your rights depend on it. It is my believe that the weapons ban is a Red Herring and we are being disarmed without constitutional violation by the depletion of the ammunition supply to the general public. Even if you don't agree, thank you for taking the time to read this E-mail and I encourage you all to make inquiries and look up some of the staggering facts about this subject on your own. Googling "Government Stockpiling of Ammunition 2013" will get you started.

The petition requires 150 signatures before it will be open for public view on the White House website. It requires 100,000 signatures to be addressed publicly by the President of the United States. The deadline for achieving that goal is is April 7th 2013. A copy of this E-mail has been sent to the house and senate representatives for the state of Oregon.
Wishing you all good health and happiness,

Donnie

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-investigate-federal-government-stockpiling-ammunition-and-demand-equal-sharing/bSy44fpx


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http://www.doomedsoldiers.com/faq.html
Q: How many Doomed Soldiers died at the hands of Polish and Soviet communist regimes in Poland?

A: While we are unable to provide an exact number of the Doomed Soldiers who had perished at the hands of the UB, SB, Informacja, KBW, NKVD, SMERSH and other repressive organs of Polish and Soviet communist regimes occupying Poland between 1944-1963,

it has been established that over 5,000 death sentences against individual soldiers of the Democratic Underground were carried out.

An estimated 21,000 others perished in communist jails and concentration camps.

At least 10,000 others died during direct combat engagements against communist forces.

Unaccounted for are thousands others who died at the hands of communists during pacification operations conducted by the so-called "Szwadrony Smierci" (Eng., "Death Squads") or agent-provocateur units created by and directed by the communist PPR, AL, GL, or communist secret services.

Thousands others died of "natural causes" after being released from the secret police torture houses, i.e. as a result of internal injuries suffered during interrogations. [Read more about torture methods here]

Additionally, at least 50,000 individuals were sent to the Soviet concentration camps, and an additional 250,000 were sentenced to lengthy imprisonment, or to forced labor in the coal mines and labor camps for their participation in, or complicity in the so-called "political crimes" against the state. Read more about the the fate of the Doomed Soldiers here ...




http://www.doomedsoldiers.com/torture-methods-of-ub.html

The Craft of Breaking A Man - Torture Methods Used by UB (Urzad Bezpieczenstwa, Bezpieka) Against Polish Underground Soldiers, And Democratic Opposition In Poland between 1944 And 1963 - An Introduction
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BBATWSW7w&feature=player_embedded

The Mokotow Prison at 37 Rakowiecka Street in Warsaw, and its dreaded Departments "X", "XI", known as "The Palace of Miracles" (pol. "Pałac Cudów"), was among the most sinister and dreaded houses of detention, torture and executions in Poland.

Among hundreds of Polish patriots murdered there, were Cavalry Captain Witold Pilecki, Col. Łukasz Ciepliński , General Emil Fieldorf "Nil", Major Zygmunt Szendzielarz, "Łupaszka"", Major Hieronim Dekutowski, "Zapora", NSZ's Stanisław Kasznica, officers and soldiers of the Wolność i Niezawisłość (Freedom & Independence - WiN), Narodowe Siły Zbrojne / National Armed Forces (NSZ), Narodowe Zjednoczenie Wojskowe (NZW), and countless others who fought against the communism between 1944-1963, and beyond.

In this video produced by "Gazeta Polska", Jacek Pawłowicz of the Institute of National Remembrance, IPN, takes us on a rare tour to one of the most hallowed places in Poland:

"The Place Where Communists Murdered Polish Heroes."

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49 Types of Torture

K. Moczarski's letter to the [communist] Chief Military Prosecutor Office dated 14 February 1955. It reads:


During the investigation proceedings launched against me on the grounds of my alleged collaboration with Germans (I was faulted with left-wing uncovering activities) - in the period from 30 Nov 1948 to 22 Sep 1952 - the following officers and non-commissioned officers of the former Department of Investigation [of Polish Secret Police from the Ministry of Internal Security - abr. MBP]: Lt Col Dusza Jozef, Maj Kaskiewicz Jerzy[1], Capts Chimczak Eugeniusz and Adamuszek Adam, Sc Lt Szymanski Tadeusz, Staff Sgt Mazurkiewicz and Sgt Stanislaw Wardynski ([vel] Wardenski or Wardeski) employed the following 49 types of torture and battery against me:

Beating of the whole body ("any possible spot") with:
 

1. bare hands (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

2. a rubber truncheon (Dusza, Kaskiewicz),

3. a brass rod (Dusza),

4. a bar [Dusza and Sgt Stanislaw Wardynski (Wardenski or Wardeski)],

5. a wooden rule with metal fittings (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

6. a stick (Dusza)

7. a whip (Kaskiewicz)

8. a blotter and inkwell base (Chimczak, Adamuszek);

Beating of particularly sensitive areas of the body:

1. bridge of the nose with a rubber truncheon (Dusza),

2. protruding shoulder blades with a rubber truncheon (Dusza),

3. gland area of the chin - which resemble mumps when swollen - with a rubber truncheon (Dusza) and rule (Dusza, Kaskiewicz),

4. shoulder joints with a rubber truncheon,

5. the outside of my bare feet and in the toe area with a viscous-rubber covered bar (Kaskiewicz),

6. finger tips with a blotter and inkwell base (Chimczak and Adamuszek),

7. bare toe tips with a rubber truncheon (Dusza),

8. bare heels (series of 10 blows - with a rubber truncheon - to a heel, several times a day) - (Dusza),

Pulling hair:

1. off the top of my skull (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

2. off my temples, above the ear and neck area - so called goose plucking (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

3. off my beard and moustache (Dusza, Chimczak),

4. off my chest (Chimczak),

5. off my crotch and scrotum (Chimczak);

Burning:

1. of the eye and lip area with a glowing cigarette (Chimczak),

2. of each hand's fingers with a burning torch (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

3. Crushing each hand's fingers placed between two pencils (Dusza, Kaskiewicz),

4. Crushing each foot's toes (jumping on my feet) - (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

5. Kicking legs and torso (Dusza, Kaskiewicz and Sgt Stanislaw Wardynski),

6. Kicking shin area in particular (Dusza, Kaskiewicz, Chimczak),

7. Stabbing with pins and nibs, etc. (Dusza, Chimczak),

8. Face and ears pinching with a hand and key (Chimczak),

9. Forcing me to sit on the edge of the stool (Dusza, Chimczak),

10. Forcing me to sit on a bolt hurting my rectum (Dusza),

11. Cuffing my hands with American automatic handcuffs (pol. amerykanka) which was followed by tearing them off my wrists (Dusza with a platoon Sgt Tadeusz Szymanski),

12. Physical exercises - forcing me to do knee bends until I swooned (Dusza),

13. Forcing me to run up and down the stairs for about 20-30 minutes - with the ward supervising at Lt Col Dusza's command),

14. Solitary confinement for indefinite time (also naked) - (Dusza),

15. Sleep deprivation for the period of 7-9 days through waking me (I was standing in a freezing cell) with continuous slaps on my face performed by the guarding officer of the former MBP. The method called Beach or Zakopane pushed me into semi-dementia and resulted in mental health problems - visual and auditory hallucinations - their symptoms resembled the body's condition after taking mescaline or peyote (Dusza with wards),

16. Standing to attention in a prison cell for indefinite time (Dusza with inspecting officers and wards of Mokotow Unit 11 and later (after 11th Nov 1950) Mokotow Block A,

17. Standing to attention in a prison cell and interrogation room with my hands raised above my head for indefinite time (Dusza with inspecting officers and wards of Mokotow Units 10 and 11),

18. I was not allowed to receive parcels from my family (every week my sister would send parcels with food, although - according to the regulations at that time - I was allowed to collect merely 10 - 15 out of 70 parcels. The remaining number on Dusza's orders was not returned to my sister.),

19. Reduction in food rations (during the peak period of my investigation I would be given only 0,5 of coffee, about 350 grams of bread and a litre of thin soup daily). Furthermore, there were times when I would not be allowed to have anything to drink - the torture of thirst on Dusza's orders,

20. Security checks in my cell, at nights when - after waking - I was forced to stand to attention, unclothed and in a freezing draught for up to an hour (the torture was supervised on Dusza's orders by an inspecting officer - called Hiszpan or Gruby - of Unit 10 and wards.),

21. Removing windows from my cell (October 1949) for 24 hours while I was sleeping under 1 blanket, partly touching the concrete floor (1 pallet shared between 3 prisoners). The torture was supervised by an inspecting officer of Unit 11 with Mazurkiewicz, a ward, all that at Dusza's orders,

22. Pouring buckets of water in to the cell regularly. The torture was supervised by an inspecting officer of Unit 11 and the wards - Mazurkiewicz and Stanislaw Wardeski. All of that on Dusza's orders,

23. Medical help deprivation, although I was ill (urinating blood for 1,5 month). I was suffering at Dusza's orders until dr Kaminska's medical attention (very caring attitude) to all prisoners from Block A,

24. I was not allowed to have open air [outside] walks and [was] prohibited from leaving the building for the period of 6 years and 3 months on Dusza's orders until 22nd September 1952 when I had my first walk in cell 22 of Mokotow Block A. In addition, I could not have showers for the period of 2 years and 10 months,

25. Moral abuse. Vulgar and elaborate verbal insult aimed at me and my family members. The abusers included Lt Col Dusza, Maj Kaskiewicz, Capt Chimczak and inspecting officers of Mokotow Unit 11 (Mazurkiewicz, Wardynski and others). While in Unit 11 I was continually bullied by the inspecting officers and wards on Dusza's orders,

26. I was deprived of any contact with the family (not a single letter or a piece of news from my mother, wife and sister for the period of 4 years) or the outside world (no newspapers etc.) or books (from 30th Nov 1949 to 6th Nov 1952 I did not read a single printed word). All of those on Dusza's orders,

27. I was subject to moral tortures of the following types:

a) an official (yet false) statement - read to me by Col Rozanski in the presence of Capt Dusza - that my wife, Zofia Moczarska, whom I love dearly, died of tuberculosis

b) an insinuating statement (additionally embellished with crude remarks and insults) of Capt Chimczak concerning an alleged unethical conduct of my wife,

28. I was subject to moral tortures supervised by:

a) Maj Kaskiewicz who, similarly to other investigating officers, called me a Nazi and wrote the word in bold on my forehead with an acrylic pencil. Furthermore, he would not allow me to wash it off and I was forced to wear it in my cell and during the interrogation,

b) Lt Col Dusza who - in order to humiliate me - ordered to place me in one cell with Nazis (the executioner of the Warsaw Ghetto - SS Gen. J. Stroop among others

Lt. Col. Dusza Jozef, Maj. Kaskiewicz Jerzy, Capt. Chimczak Eugeniusz, Lt. Adamuszek Adam, an inspecting officer [Ludwik Wlodarczyk], whom prisoners called Hiszpan or Gruby (currently one of the three inspecting officers of Mokotow Block A and wearing lieutenant uniform or civilian clothes; in 1949 he used to have a badge of the participants in the Spanish Civil War pinned to his jacket lapel; he is about 5.8 ft, obese, 40-something-year-old), the following inspecting officers: Tadeusz Szymanski (recently a Sc Lt of Mokotow Unit 10), Mazurkiewicz (recently a Staff Sgt for general purposes in Mokotow), Wardynski (Wardenski or Wardeski) Stanislaw (recently a Staff Sgt in Mokotow Prison) and many others, whose names I do not know, employed all previously described tortures and abusive methods against me with the consent and in the presence of Cols [Jozef] Rozanski and [Anatol] Fejgin as well as the Deputy Minister - general [Roman] Romkowski. The latter declared - around 30th Nov 1948 and in the interrogation room situated on the first floor of Unit 10 as well as in the presence of Col Rozanski - that I will experience a "living hell" - and apparently he was right about it.

I would also like to stress that not all of the investigation and inspecting officers of Unit 10 and Block A and not all wards, although clearly instructed and ordered as to the methods of torture and abuse, would gladly and eagerly employ them against me.
 
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Re: Death by Gun Control - Democide
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2013, 05:12:43 pm »
There are more elements to this as well. The ban of "high capacity magazines" is still
on the table. There are opportunities for small victories even in
defeat. I wish they would come up with some meaningful legislation that
makes sense for everyone. Removing our rights and freedoms should never
be compromised. Please sign and pass on:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-investigate-federal-government-stockpiling-ammunition-and-demand-equal-sharing/bSy44fpx