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Like today with North Korea - the USSR could not be allowed to fall - Nor could WWI end too soon (Belgium relief food also went to the germans) There are many indications that the USSR regime would have fallen in reaction to the famine. Instead it was renewed. Five million people unwanted by the soviets died, while 15 million lived on , Hoover made the verbal play that the soviet system would fall after the famine was abated with American relief.  :
Hoover entered Stanford University in 1891, its inaugural year, after failing all the entrance exams (except mathematics) and then being tutored for the summer in Palo Alto
When World War I began in August 1914, Hoover helped organize the return of around 120,000 Americans from Europe. He led 500 volunteers in distributing food, clothing, steamship tickets and cash.
When Belgium faced a food crisis after being invaded by Germany, Hoover undertook an unprecedented relief effort with the Commission for Relief in Belgium (CRB)
After the war, as a member of the Supreme Economic Council and head of the American Relief Administration, Hoover organized shipments of food for millions of starving people in Central Europe. He used a newly formed Quaker organization, the American Friends Service Committee, to carry out much of the logistical work in Europe.
Hoover provided aid to the defeated German nation after the war, as well as relief to famine-stricken Bolshevik-controlled areas of Russia in 1921, despite the opposition of Senator Henry Cabot Lodge and other Republicans. When asked if he was not thus helping Bolshevism, Hoover retorted, "Twenty million people are starving. Whatever their politics, they shall be fed!" At war's end, the New York Times named Hoover one of the "Ten Most Important Living Americans".

In July 1922, Soviet author Maxim Gorky wrote to Hoover:

Your help will enter history as a unique, gigantic achievement, worthy of the greatest glory, which will long remain in the memory of millions of Russians whom you have saved from death

The little-known story of the American effort to relieve starvation in the new Soviet Russia in 1921, The Great Famine is a documentary about the worst natural disaster in Europe since the Black Plague in the Middle Ages.

Five million Russians died.

Half a world away, Americans responded with a massive two-year relief campaign, championed by Herbert Hoover, director of the American Relief Administration known as the ARA.
Known as "the Great Humanitarian" for his relief work during and after World War I, Hoover is said to have saved more lives than any person in history.

"Lenin's government never recognized America's humanitarian motives," says producer Austin Hoyt (George H. W. Bush, Victory in the Pacific, Reagan). The Soviets always saw the relief workers as exploiters and spies."

The Cheka, Lenin's secret police, kept a watchful eye on the Americans and especially on the 120,000 Russians the ARA hired to do the work.

White Russians and aristocrats, the losers in Russia's brutal civil war, were hired because they were educated. The Bolsheviks feared the ARA was training them as counter-revolutionaries. The tensions the Americans experienced in the early 1920s would come to dominate U.S. Soviet relations for much of the century
US Relief of Russia 1921
How the U.S. saved a starving Soviet Russia: PBS film highlights Stanford scholar's research on the 1921-23 famine
The Great Famine Preview
Aired: 04/11/2011
Rating: NR

The little-known story of the American effort to relieve starvation in the new Soviet Russia in 1921, The Great Famine is a documentary about the worst natural disaster in Europe since the Black Plague in the Middle Ages. Half a world away, Americans responded with a massive two-year relief campaign, championed by Herbert Hoover, director of the American Relief Administration known as the ARA.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11

Neo-American  Democide
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Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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More Federal Agencies Are Using Undercover Operations

WASHINGTON — The federal government has significantly expanded undercover operations in recent years, with officers from at least 40 agencies posing as business people, welfare recipients, political protesters and even doctors or ministers to ferret out wrongdoing, records and interviews show.


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Inside a Stasi Prison
Hohenshonhausen Prison was once one of the most dreaded of Stasi prisons in the Eastern Bloc until it finally shut its doors in 1990.  Between 1951 and 1989 thousands of prisoners were imprisoned in this horrible place built by the Communist regime.  Officially the place did not exist and it did not appear on maps of the time.  Instead the area where the prison is located was simply left blank. 

Stasi Wardens who ran this place of evil constantly devised extreme techniques for interrogation in order to extract from prisoners the information they wanted.  And the majority of prisoners had committed no crimes at all.  Their only crime was rejecting the Communist State and its tyranny and injustice!  This place was a prison for political prisoners.

Prisoners were never told where they were and they were sealed off from the rest of the world.  They had no clue what was happening outside of the prison walls and they were kept in strict isolation so that they came to know their lives only existed due to the mercy of the cruel and inhumane Communist State.

The prison was located in Berlin, East Germany.  The compoud was large and inside everything was very “sanitary” perhaps in an effort by the Stasi to wash away their secret guilt.  Most locals in the area knew it was a Stasi prison but said nothing out of fear that they themselves might end up inside its walls.  Ah yes, fear….the great comrade of regimes of tyranny.

This prison once housed some of the most noted political dissidents in East Germany who opposed the GDR government. 
The mission of this prison was to “destabilize” inmates to the point that they felt absolutely powerless over anything

And the Stasi were very successful in doing just that!  They sought to break each prisoner down completely by ANY means.  Interrogations in this pit of evil were very very cruel and dark.  It was not unusual for inmates to be interrogated for months both day and night by trained tortures in the “finer” techniques of human evil and cruelty

Torture was freqently employed.  One could sit in his cell and hear the sounds of the jackboots coming down the hall and you’d know they were coming for you.  This place was a hell on earth!  A living nightmare without end!  Oh but it was not alone for in the days when the Communists and Socialists ruled Eastern Europe and Russia places like this were common!  Secret but of course!

Rubber padded rooms, various “medical” equipment, and reliable instruments of torture filled this place and others like it.  Cold white walls were the decor and all else was very bland.  Tyrants love the bland.  They absolutely hate joyful colors or anything that reminds them of life being a joy!  Gray, white, bland, puke!  That’s what tyrants like!  Foreboding guard towers dotted the high gray walls and this was a place from which there was no escape outside of being a corpse inside a pine box.

Fieldwork Doc Gedenkstätte Berlin-Hohenschönhausen
Published on Sep 5, 2012 

Short documentary on the process of doing anthropological fieldwork research among former GDR political prisoners who now guide tours in the former Stasi prison in Berlin-Hohenschönhausen in which they used to be imprisoned.
How Bush And Cheney Used A Stasi School For Torture
Apr 18 2012 @ 12:18pm
And so we are beginning to see glimmers of legal accountability from Europe for the war crimes perpetrated by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. The EU long ago reported the existence of torture sites in Poland and Romania, and one of the EU investigators of these war crimes was former Solidarity member, Józef Pinior. He insists he saw something important:

Pinior has always claimed that, during his investigations, he was told about a document signed by Leszek Miller, Poland’s Prime Minister at the time the CIA prison was in operation, providing information regulating the operations of the prison – in a military intelligence training base in Stare Kiejkuty in north eastern Poland – including information about how, if necessary, to deal with corpses inside the facility.

My italics (but this isn't the only formal recognition of deaths in the torture archipelago). We know, because even the Pentagon has confirmed, that several prisoners held under the Bush-Cheney administration were tortured to death. That those running the program knew that the techniques were brutal enough to risk occasional deaths of the victims adds one extra layer of criminality and evil to the process. The case in Poland appears to have been slowed but not halted by the prosecutors, aware of where it might lead. But one nugget will surely strike home in Poland, as told by Adam Krzykowski, a journalist for Polish public TV, and the first reporter to provide proof of the landing in Poland of a specific rendition plane:

Off the record, Wojciech Czuchnowski and I also obtained information about the location where people suspected of terrorism and kidnapped by the CIA were detained, on the premises of the so-called spy school in Stare Kiejkuty in the Mazury region, about 20 km from the airport in Szymany, where planes landed which were used by the CIA. We were also informed about the existence of another relevant building, a two-storey villa — once named as “Marcus Wolf Villa” in honour of the founder of the East German intelligence service — which appeared to have been used as a back office, and may have included housing for the interrogators. It seems that both the villa and the presumed prison building were located in a specific section of the grounds occupied by the spy school, which was separate from the rest and even more heavily guarded.

Isn't there something grotesquely appropriate in that Bush and Cheney, in importing into the US the torture techniques of totalitarian regimes, used one building named in honor of the founder of the East German Stasi? They remain war criminals, and the rule of law in America remains unenforced by the Obama administration on the core issue of torture.

Guest Post: Polish Journalist Discusses the Ongoing Investigation into the CIA’s Torture Prison in Poland 17.4.12

Since November 2005, when the Washington Post first reported that the CIA had held “high-value detainees” in its “war on terror” in secret prisons in eastern Europe, and Human Rights Watch then revealed that prisons were located in Poland and Romania, concerned politicians and organizations have worked hard to expose the truth about these prisons (and another that was later discovered in Lithuania).

No one in a position of authority in these countries admitted that these prisons had existed, but important work confirming their existence was done within the EU and the Council of Europe, and of great significance, in June 2006 and June 2007, were two Council of Europe reports (2007 PDF), and a European Parliament report,  in January 2007 (PDF). In the 2007 CoE report, Swiss Senator Dick Marty concluded that, after two years’ research and interviews with over 30 current and former members of the intelligence services in the United States and Europe, stated that he had enough “evidence to state that secret detention facilities run by the CIA did exist in Europe from 2003 to 2005, in particular in Poland and Romania.” Marty also identified both sites, and explained how the flights were disguised using fake flight plans.

One of the MEPs who worked on the EU investigation was Józef Pinior, a former member of the Solidarity movement, who was an MEP from 2004 to 2009, and was first a member, and then the Vice-Chair of the Subcommittee of Human Rights. Pinior has always claimed that, during his investigations, he was told about a document signed by Leszek Miller, Poland’s Prime Minister at the time the CIA prison was in operation, providing information regulating the operations of the prison – in a military intelligence training base in Stare Kiejkuty in north eastern Poland – including information about how, if necessary, to deal with corpses inside the facility.
Within Poland, Pinior was ridiculed for his statements at the time, although, as the years have passed, it has become increasingly obvious that his detractors were desperate to hide their knowledge of, or involvement in a project as shameful as the torture prison that they allowed the CIA to operate on Polish soil, and sensible people now recognize the importance of the stand that he took.
We had already obtained conclusive evidence to that effect a year ago — the flight records from the airport’s control tower, which had vanished a few years earlier under strange circumstances, as well as the hard disk from one of the computers, which I had managed to get hold of, and from which the data appeared to have been meticulously erased. I had handed over that evidence to the prosecution, and the process of retrieving information from the hard disk is still ongoing.

After the prison was closed, the villa was renovated, which destroyed any biological traces that might have given clues as to the persons who had stayed there. A few months before his death, Janusz Kochanowski, the Civil Liberties Ombudsman who died in the Smoleńsk presidential plane crash on April 10, 2010, confirmed this to me.
Smolensk plane crash: 'explosives remnants found on aircraft'

Prosecutors in Poland have been forced to deny reports that traces of explosives have been found on aircraft remnants from the Smolensk plane crash that claimed the lives of the Polish president and 95 others in 2010.
By  Matthew Day, Warsaw
3:33PM GMT 30 Oct 2012

Rzeczpospolita, a leading Polish newspaper, said it has seen a report from Poland's Central Forensic Laboratory and Central Bureau of Investigation saying experts found traces of TNT and nitroglycerine on numerous bits of the wrecked Tupolev Tu-154 including 30 seats and sections of fuselage.

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That Was the GDR - A History of the Other Germany 1 of 7 - I Was a Citizen of the GDR

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Way back machine to 1989 - A generation of Romanians lived with a boot on their necks with the Romanian secret police, called Siguranța Statului.

Founded on August 30, 1948, with help from the Soviet NKVD, the Securitate was abolished in December 1989, shortly after President Nicolae Ceaușescu was ousted and executed

With today's sigint how is today's NSA's security net any different then the Stasi?
Romanian Dictator Nicolae and Elena ceausescu executed. December  25, 1989
Ex-Romanian Secret Police on Trial : East Bloc: They are among the 21 defendants accused of stealing and burning corpses of 40 protesters.
March 02, 1990

Official figures released at the hearing showed 94 people died in Timisoara during the pro-democracy demonstrations, 300 others were badly wounded and 23 simply disappeared.

The 21 defendants--former Securitate officers, senior police officials and two Bucharest cemetery supervisors--were led into the dock wearing beige-and-brown striped uniforms, the dress of convicts. Their heads were shaved

The most senior Securitate officer on trial is Gen. Emil Macri, head of the security police's counterintelligence. He was sent from Bucharest to Timisoara by Ceausescu to quell the pro-democracy demonstrations, military prosecutor Mihai Radulescu said.

He said Macri's first orders on arriving in Timisoara were effectively to isolate the city of 320,000 from the rest of the world. All roads around the city were blocked off, foreigners were barred and all telephone links were cut.

The 21 face charges of complicity in genocide and assisting in genocide, and all face maximum terms of life imprisonment if found guilty by the three-man military tribunal.

Reports that thousands of people had been killed by the Securitate in Timisoara in mid-December spread around the country, triggering the revolution. The initial figures were grossly exaggerated, but there were gasps in court today as prosecutors described how the bodies of 40 demonstrators had been disposed of. The corpses were reportedly stolen, cremated and their ashes tipped down a drain.
Nicolae Ceaușescu (Romanian pronunciation: [nikoˈla.e t͡ʃe̯a.uˈʃesku]; 26 January 1918[1] – 25 December 1989) was a Romanian Communist politician. He was General Secretary of the Romanian Communist Party from 1965 to 1989, and as such was the country's last Communist leader. He was also the country's head of state from 1967 to 1989

Ceaușescu’s regime collapsed after he ordered his security forces to fire on antigovernment demonstrators in the city of Timișoara on 17 December 1989. The demonstrations spread to Bucharest and became known as the Romanian Revolution, which was the only violent overthrow of a Communist government during the revolutions of 1989.

Ceaușescu and his wife, Elena, fled the capital in a helicopter but were captured by the armed forces. On 25 December the couple were hastily tried and convicted by a special military tribunal on charges of mass murder in a two-hour court session. Ceaușescu and his wife were then shot by a firing squad
The Securitate was, in proportion to Romania's population, one of the largest secret police forces in the Eastern bloc. The first budget of the Securitate in 1948 stipulated a number of 4,641 positions, of which 3,549 were filled by February 1949: 64% were workers, 4% peasants, 28% clerks, 2% persons of unspecified origin, and 2% intellectuals.[citation needed]

By 1951, the Securitate's staff had increased fivefold, while in January 1956, the Securitate had 25,468 employees.[2]

Under the regime of Nicolae Ceaușescu, the Securitate employed some 11,000 agents and had a half-million informers for a country with a population of 22 million by 1985.

 Under Ceaușescu, the Securitate was one of the most brutal secret police forces in the world, responsible for the arrests, torture and deaths of thousands of people


In the 1980s, the Securitate launched a massive campaign to stamp out dissent in Romania, manipulating the country's population with vicious rumors (such as supposed contacts with Western intelligence agencies), machinations, frameups, public denunciations, encouraging conflict between segments of the population, public humiliation of dissidents, toughened censorship and the repression of even the smallest gestures of independence by intellectuals.

Often the term "intellectual" was used by the Securitate to describe dissidents with higher education, such as college and university students, writers, directors and scientists who opposed the philosophy of the Communist party. Assassinations were also used to silence dissent, such as the attempt to kill high-ranking defector Ion Mihai Pacepa, who received two death sentences from Romania in 1978, and on whose head Ceauşescu decreed a bounty of two million US dollars. Yasser Arafat and Muammar al-Gaddafi each added one more million dollars to the reward.[5] In the 1980s, Securitate officials allegedly hired Carlos the Jackal to assassinate Pacepa.[6]

Forced entry into homes and offices and the planting of microphones was another tactic the Securitate used to extract information from the general population.

Telephone conversations were routinely monitored, and all internal and international fax and telex communications were intercepted.

After coal miners' unions went on strike and several leaders died prematurely, it was later discovered that Securitate doctors had subjected them to five-minute chest X-rays in an attempt to have them develop cancer.[7] After birth rates fell, Securitate agents were placed in gynecological wards while regular pregnancy tests were made mandatory for women of child-bearing age, with severe penalties for anyone who was found to have terminated a pregnancy.[7]

The Securitate's presence was so ubiquitous that it was believed one out of four Romanians was an informer. In truth, the Securitate deployed one agent or informer for every 43 Romanians, which was still large enough to make it all but impossible for dissidents to organize. The regime deliberately fostered this sense of ubiquity, believing that the fear of being watched was sufficient to bend the people to Ceausescu's will.

For example, one shadow group of dissidents limited itself to only three families; any more than that would have attracted Securitate attention.[8] In truth, the East German Stasi was even more ubiquitous than the Securitate; counting informers, the Stasi had one spy for every 6.5 East Germans
Inside Ceausescu’s Romania: An Unquestionably Efficient Police State

In 1989, when peaceful revolutions were sweeping across Eastern Europe, the fall of communism in Romania was marked by a higher level of violence and bloodshed than elsewhere in the region. This was due, at least in part, to the repressive nature of the regime established by Nicolae Ceausescu (1965-1989) and his loyal secret police, the Securitate. Estimates suggest that the Securitate had a higher proportion of representatives per population than anywhere else in the communist block and that by the 1980s as many as one person in thirty had been recruited as a Securitate  informer.

In this article, guest author Nelson Duque considers the deadly combination of Ceausescu’s distinctive style of dynastic socialism with the establishment of a brutally efficient police state, which enabled him to maintain an iron grip on power until the dying days of communist rule across Eastern Europe. Nelson briefly highlights the implications of some of the key policies enforced by Ceausescu and emphasises the key role of the Securitate in successfully ensuring the lack of any significant opposition, through the creation of a climate of fear and brutality.

Inside Ceausescu’s Romania: An Unquestionably Efficent Police State.
By Nelson Duque.

Inside Ceausescu’s Police State

Ceausescu’s Romania was a unique case in Socialist Eastern Europe. From 1965, Ceausescu endeavoured to establish a dynastic form of Socialism; heavily reliant on his own ‘cult of personality’ with power concentrated in the hands of his close relatives including his wife Elena and their son Nicu. Ben Fowkes sees this relationship between family and state as detrimental to society, describing Ceausescu as ‘both incurably Stalinist and fiercely repressive’ (Ben Fowkes, The rise and fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, Macmillan: 1995). Unsurprisingly, the secret police were some of Ceausescu’s most loyal agents, carrying out his will during the 23 years of his rule. During this time far reaching policies such as widespread austerity measures, ‘systematisation’ and pro-natalism were all enforced by the Securitate. These policies illustrate prime examples of how the Ceausescus’ directly interfered in and influenced the lives of ordinary Romanians and of how the Stasi employed insidious and brutal tactics to ensure a lack of opposition.

[ Oh the Stasi kept the East Germans "safe" from Democracy for decades: ]

The Ministry for State Security (German: Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, MfS), commonly known as the Stasi (abbreviation German: Staatssicherheit, literally State Security), was the official state security service of the German Democratic Republic or GDR, colloquially known as East Germany.   The Stasi was founded on 8 February 1950

It has been described as one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies to ever have existed. . The Stasi was headquartered in East Berlin, with an extensive complex in Berlin-Lichtenberg and several smaller facilities throughout the city.

The Stasi motto was "Schild und Schwert der Partei" (Shield and Sword of the Party), that is the ruling Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED).

One of its main tasks was spying on the population, mainly through a vast network of citizens turned informants, and fighting any opposition by overt and covert measures including hidden psychological destruction of dissidents (Zersetzung, literally meaning decomposition).

It also worked as an intelligence agency abroad, the respective division Hauptverwaltung Aufklärung was responsible for both espionage and for conducting covert operations in foreign countries. Under its long-time head Markus Wolf it gained a reputation as one of the most effective intelligence agencies of the Cold War.

Numerous Stasi officials were prosecuted for their crimes after 1990. After German reunification, the surveillance files that the Stasi had maintained for millions of East Germans were laid open, so that any citizen could inspect their personal file on request; these files are now maintained by the Federal Commissioner for the Stasi Archives.
Recovery of the Stasi files

During the Peaceful Revolution of 1989, Stasi offices were overrun by enraged citizens, but not before the Stasi destroyed a number of documents (approximately 5%)[63] consisting of, by one calculation, 1 billion sheets of paper.[1]

Storming the Stasi headquarters

As the GDR began to fall, the Stasi did as well. They began to destroy the extensive files that they had kept, both by hand and with the use of shredders.

When these activities became known, a protest erupted in front of the Stasi headquarters.[64]

In the evening of 15 January 1990, a large crowd of people formed outside the gates in order to stop the destruction of personal files. In their minds, this information should have been available to them and also have been used to punish those who had taken part in Stasi actions.

The large group of protesters grew and grew until they were able to overcome the police and gain entry into the complex. The protesters became violent and destructive as they smashed doors and windows, threw furniture, and trampled portraits of Erich Honecker, leader of the GDR. Among the destructive public were officers working for the West German government, as well as former Stasi collaborators seeking to destroy documents

On the evening of January 15th in 1990 demonstrators took possession of the headquarters of the Ministry for State Security (MfS) in Berlin-Lichtenberg. The Berliner Bürgerkomitee (Berlin Committee of Citizens) started here the closure and disorganisation of the MfS. One week later the Zentrale Runde Tisch (The Central Round Table) decided that a memorial place and research centre should be established in the former House No. 1 in the Stasi-Headquarters
 Stasi -  The Untold Story of the East German Secret Police
 Westview Press

With extraordinary speed and political resolve, the divided nation was reunified a year later. The collapse of the despotic regime was total. It was a euphoric time for Germans, but reunification also produced a new national dilemma. Nazi war crimes were still being tried in West Germany, forty-six years after World War II. Suddenly the German government was faced with demands that the communist officials who had ordered, executed, and abetted crimes against their own people—crimes that were as brutal as those perpetrated by their Nazi predecessors—also be prosecuted.

    The people of the former Deutsche Demokratische Republik (DDR), the German Democratic Republic, as the state had called itself for forty years, were clamoring for instant revenge. Their wrath was directed primarily against the country's communist rulers—the upper echelon of the Sozialistische Einheitspartei (SED), the Socialist Unity Party. The tens of thousands of second-echelon party functionaries who had enriched themselves at the expense of their cocitizens were also prime targets for retribution.

    Particularly singled out were the former members of the Stasi, the East German secret police, who previously had considered themselves the "shield and sword" of the party. When the regime collapsed, the Stasi had 102,000 full-time officers and noncommissioned personnel on its rolls, including 11,000 members of the ministry's own special guards regiment. Between 1950 and 1989, a total of 274,000 persons served in the Stasi.

    The people's ire was running equally strong against the regular Stasi informers, the inoffizielle Mitarbeiter (IMs).

By 1995, 174,000 had been identified as IMs, or 2.5 percent of the total population between the ages of 18 and 60.

Researchers were aghast when they found that about 10,000 IMs, or roughly 6 percent of the total, had not yet reached the age of 18.

Since many records were destroyed, the exact number of IMs probably will never be determined; but 500,000 was cited as a realistic figure. Former Colonel Rainer Wiegand, who served in the Stasi counterintelligence directorate, estimated that the figure could go as high as 2 million, if occasional stool pigeons were included.

    "The Stasi was much, much worse than the Gestapo, if you consider only the oppression of its own people," according to Simon Wiesenthal of Vienna, Austria, who has been hunting Nazi criminals for half a century. "The Gestapo had 40,000 officials watching a country of 80 million, while the Stasi employed 102,000 to control only 17 million." One might add that the Nazi terror lasted only twelve years, whereas the Stasi had four decades in which to perfect its machinery of oppression, espionage, and international terrorism and subversion.

    To ensure that the people would become and remain submissive, East German communist leaders saturated their realm with more spies than had any other totalitarian government in recent history.

The Soviet Union's KGB employed about 480,000 full-time agents to oversee a nation of 280 million, which means there was one agent per 5,830 citizens. Using Wiesenthal's figures for the Nazi Gestapo, there was one officer for 2,000 people. The ratio for the Stasi was one secret policeman per 166 East Germans. When the regular informers are added, these ratios become much higher: In the Stasi's case, there would have been at least one spy watching every 66 citizens! When one adds in the estimated numbers of part-time snoops, the result is nothing short of monstrous: one informer per 6.5 citizens. It would not have been unreasonable to assume that at least one Stasi informer was present in any party of ten or twelve dinner guests.
Stasi Prison Exposes Terror, Trauma in Berlin Compound
 By Catherine Hickley  Oct 23, 2013 4:00 PM

A corridor of cells inside the Hohenschoenhausen prison of East Germany, where as many as 40,000 dissidents were kept captive by the secret police between 1945 and 1990. Former prisoners today give guided tours of the site

East Germany’s communist-era secret police, known as the Stasi, produced a heavy leather-bound volume embossed with gold in 1970 to mark its 20th anniversary.

Packed with advice for interrogating dissidents, it includes a chapter on how to prevent prison suicides. Black-and-white photos warn of hidden razor blades and makeshift nooses.

The book is in a new exhibition at Hohenschoenhausen prison in eastern Berlin, a place where 40,000 political captives were interrogated and tortured as Stasi agents wrung confessions out of them and cooked up grounds for indictments.
The exhibition points out that not a single Hohenschoenhausen interrogator has served time in jail.
House of Horror: Inside the Infamous Stasi Prison
By Pete Brook

Welcome to your padded cell ....

Feared for the physical and psychological torture within, Hohenschönhausen (commonly known as the Stasi Prison) was the operational hub for the Ministry State Security, or Stasi, in communist East Germany, or GDR.

The prison helped coordinate the detention and interrogation of the GDR’s political prisoners from 1951 to 1989. When the Berlin Wall came down, it is estimated that more than 91,000 full-time Stasi employees and 189,000 unofficial collaborators were maintaining close, repressive surveillance over the East German populace.

In the Stasi prison, it was routine to interrogate suspects at night, from 10 p.m. until dawn. Then the suspect would be sent back to the cell, where they would stand all day.

They used a conveyer method for interrogation, when three or four investigators questioned the victim without a break. Three or four days later, pretty much anyone broke down and signed any confession or papers shoved in front of them.

 The SBU, of course, denies that they are doing anything remotely similar to this. Volodymyr Rakytsky, deputy head of the SBU, told the press that Cherneha’s accusations are false.

“I would like to tell you that sometimes we talk with the criminals, but what we do is offer them coffee. The conversation that follows is absolutely lenient,” he said.

 Vera Lengsfeld, an East German from Berlin who landed in Stasi prison for trying to organize a protest in 1988, remembers vividly what the coffee-drinking tactic is like that the Stasi also used more than two decades ago.

The officer would invite you for a coffee and a chat after several days of humiliation, beatings and pressure, when you’re so desperate that you’re about to stop feeling like a human being.

 The interrogator made sure they knew your favorite drink. When Lengsfeld entered his office, she found him drinking this beverage – lemon tea – and for her the aroma was like a blow in the stomach.

 The officer used a respectful form of address when he spoke to her, which was a vivid contrast to the usual address by the number that was assigned to her on arrival. The number was a psychological blow in the first days of imprisonment.

 He didn’t offer her a drink straight away. First, she was told that the investigator is on her side, that he is just doing his job and that if she cooperates she will receive certain privileges.

“This was just another form of psychological pressure,” she recalls. She was sentenced to six months in prison then. She was 37.
 In modern Germany, those pressure tactics of the secret service have become a matter of study by the historians

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from drudge:
January 19, 2014, 11:09 am
Feinstein: Metadata program here to stay

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) predicted Sunday that lawmakers who favored shutting down the bulk collection of telephone metadata would not be successful in their efforts as Congress weighs potential reforms to the nation’s controversial intelligence programs.

“I don’t believe so,” Feinstein said during an appearance on NBC's “Meet the Press.” “The president has very clearly said that he wants to keep the capability… So I think we would agree with him. I know a dominant majority of the — everybody, virtually, except two or three, on the Senate Intelligence Committee would agree with that.”

US President Franklin D. Roosevelt (R) meets with Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov (L) in America in 1942

WASHINGTON, June 6 (RIA Novosti) – A new book claiming the White House of wartime US President Franklin D. Roosevelt was rife with Soviet spies and sympathizers has American conservatives waxing lyrical as liberals heap scorn on the work as unadulterated fantasy.
According to West, a key Soviet sympathizer in the White House was Harry Hopkins, one of Roosevelt’s closest advisers. In an interview with Soviet-born Israeli researcher Ariel Cohen of the conservative Heritage Foundation, she described Hopkins as “the greatest unsung villain that we’ve never heard of.”

West accuses Hopkins, who she says was so close to Roosevelt that he was often referred to as his “co-president”, of treachery including tipping off the Soviet embassy in Washington that the FBI was listening in on its diplomats’ conversations; and telling Soviet World War II Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov “how to talk to Roosevelt to persuade him to do what Stalin wanted – invade northern France.”

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Stalin’s Spies and Secret Police

Stalin, Molotov, L.M. Kaganovich, and  other Communist officials from a German exhibit

Under Joseph Stalin and his supporters, the Soviet Union’s secret police and intelligence agencies that were first formed during the Russian Civil War grew into vast networks, allowing Stalin to control every aspect of life in the USSR.

These organizations reinforced Stalin’s grip on power and squashed anti-Soviet activities, both at home and in the territories the USSR occupied. During World War II, Stalin’s operatives uncovered Axis battle plans that helped Soviet generals thwart Adolf Hitler and stole the secrets of the United States’ atomic bomb program, one of the greatest intelligence coups of the twentieth century. Stalin welcomed classified information from friends and foes alike.

[ The enemy is within ]

FDR and Harry Hopkins
The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins
Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid  —   October 8, 1999 
But they have all overlooked the biggest news in the Andrew book?

New evidence that proves that Harry Hopkins, the closest and most influential adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II, was a Soviet agent.

Andrew had reported this in a book he had written in 1990 based on information provided by Oleg Gordievsky, a high-level KGB officer who had also been smuggled out of the Soviet Union by British intelligence. Gordievsky reported that Iskhak Ahkmerov, the KGB officer who controlled the illegal Soviet agents in the U.S. during the war, had said that

Hopkins was “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”

Hopkins secret meetings with Ahkmerov were not known to anyone until Gordievsky revealed them. They began before Hopkins made a trip to Moscow in July 1941, a month after the Germans invaded the Soviet Union. His insistence that aid be extended to Stalin with no strings attached justifies Ahkmerov?s evaluation of his performance.

There is evidence that Hopkins even went so far as to arrange for the shipment of uranium to the Soviet Union to help them develop the atomic bomb.

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from drudge:
'We Are Now a Police State' December 19, 2013 - 10:54 AM

Last year, high-ranking NSA official Bill Binney said, “We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.”

Now, Binney says that the U.S. has already become a full-blown police state.

Binney told Washington’s Blog on Wednesday that: “The main use of the collection from these [NSA spying] programs [is] for law enforcement. [See the 2 slides below].” -

“This is a total corruption of the justice system not only in our country but around the world. The source of the info is at the bottom of each slide. This is a totalitarian process – means we are now in a police state.”
32-year NSA Veteran Who Created Mass Surveillance System Says Government Use of Data Gathered Through Spying
“Is a Totalitarian Process”

Bill Binney is the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information. A 32-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency, Binney was the senior technical director within the agency and managed thousands of NSA employees.
Interview with NSA Whistleblower Bill Binney: Afraid We’re Spreading Secret Government Around World
By: Kevin Gosztola Friday December 27, 2013 3:05 pm 

The FBI, Drug Enforcement Agency, and law enforcement, along with the NSA, are collecting information on Americans and then using that information to arrest people.

“Parallel construction” is then used to “fabricate evidence” that is substituted with evidence that is subsequently collected legally and through mechanisms that have traditionally been an accepted part of criminal investigations.

In former senior NSA employee and whistleblower William Binney’s view, this is the “real problem.” It is occurring without a warrant and they can bring this information into court. He calls it the “planned program perjury policy right out of the Department of Justice.”

“They’re lying to the courts,” Binney explains. The government knows that they are lying when they say here is the evidence used to arrest these people. The information is also being shared with “foreign counterparts.” They’re telling “foreign counterparts” this is the evidence used to arrest people but the “counterparts” do not get to see the data because it is from NSA collection.

Essentially, this is the United States subverting not only its own justice system but justice systems around the world.
On “60 Minutes,” NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander claimed “the 9/11 hijackers, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were in touch with an al Qaeda safe house in Yemen. The NSA did not know their calls were coming from California, as they would today.”

Binney said, based on his experience, this would not be true. Every call has a unique number to it that can tell someone where the call is coming from, like an area code.

A presidential review group released a report recommending private companies store the data instead of having the NSA collect it. Binney does not think the government or businesses should have any of this data. It all should be destroyed.

Binney said the government has tens of thousands of implants on the network, on routers, servers or actual computers. This can tell routers how to send material. They can put a code into a router so that when a particular number is seen a copy of certain data is forwarded to the NSA.

“If you control the routers, you can control how all the information in the entire network flows,” Binney declared. This is true for servers and Internet service providers as well.

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2014, 10:46:57 am »

  Great research Tahoe

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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2014, 12:13:42 pm »
^^^^^   Great research Tahoe

Thanks , there is a lot of info out there but it's not advertised , and not easy to find (we don't know the right questions to ask!) . They don't like people to see the threads of the spiders web ... Democide is about more than just gun control . ( Interesting that even Democide is not in the MS - IE dictionary @!) . Our history and the history of the world is becoming a bit from the 1984 orwell novel, being rewritten daily.

Mostly these are the many experiments in history of forcible reordering of the social order . Jacobin France, USSR . Communist China , N. Korea , USA
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« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2014, 02:37:55 pm »
[ Bush/Obama Cheka tactics will soon be seen as IED's throughout the world for globalist authorized destabilazation ... ]
Senate report: CIA misled [lied to] public on torture
By Stephen Collinson and Evan Perez, CNN
updated 2:11 PM EST, Tue December 9, 2014

Washington (CNN) -- The CIA's harsh interrogations of terrorist detainees during the Bush era didn't work, were more brutal than previously revealed and delivered no "ticking time bomb" information that prevented an attack, according to an explosive Senate report released Tuesday.

The majority report issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee is a damning condemnation of the tactics -- branded by critics as torture -- the George W. Bush administration deployed in the fear-laden days after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The techniques, according to the report, were "deeply flawed," poorly managed and often resulted in "fabricated" information.

Bush I was CIA director for Assassinations ...:
Mae Brussell - Reagan Assassination Attempt - April 5 & 12, 1981

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1.4 Billion Bullets and Department of Education buying weapons.... RE-DACTED!

I have been seeing many comparisons of late Globally to the Bolshevik take over of Russia ... dehumanization , disarming the populace, Food as a weapon, gulags (refugee centers) concentration camps....

From a Catholic perspective but very interesting:
The Rulers of Russia - American Edition - by Rev Denis Fahey - 1938

The truth about Lenin and the Bolsheviks

The Black Book of Communism


I WAS in Russia during the first five years of the Bolshevist regime, but contrived to leave that country during the October of 1922.  Scarcely had I broken my journey at Warsaw before I found myself confronted with a question involving one of the most complex psychological and socio-ethical problems of our day.

For, as I was sitting in a co-operative cafe run by some Polish ladies, the lady who was serving me with coffee suddenly put to me the question :
" Are you a Russian straight from Russia ? "
" Yes—I am a Russian."
" Then pray tell me how it is that no one there seems willing to assassinate Lenin and Trotsky ? "

At first the corpses were disposed of by dumping them into the ancient Genoese wells ; but in time even these wells became filled up, and the condemned had to be marched out into the country during the daytime (ostensibly, " to work in the mines ") and there made to dig huge graves before daylight should fail, and then be locked into sheds for an hour or two, and, with the fall of dusk, stripped except for the little crosses around their necks, and shot.
Again, a railway workers' rebellion in Ekaterinoslav had, as a sequel, a list of "fifty-one" victims, which means, probably, that the true number was considerably larger. Indeed, we read in Z. U. Arbatov's reminiscences, entitled Ekaterinoslav, 1917-1920,4 that after 200 workmen had been arrested, and fifty sentenced to execution at once, the rest were, later, and by night, conveyed in two motor-lorries (the date being June 2) to a spot on the river Dnieper where, with a machine-gun trained upon them from behind, the whole were so shot that their bodies fell into the water, to be carried away by the current, and only a few were left stranded on the margin. And later more railway employees were sentenced and executed by the All-Ukrainian Che-Ka at Kharkov

By the winter of 1920 [he wrote] the number of provinces  included within the R.S.F.S.R. was fifty-two, and they had fifty-two Che-Kas, and fifty-two special branches, and fifty-two provincial  revolutionary tribunals. And then there existed all the swarm of regional-transport Che-Kas, railway tribunals, tribunals of " internal defence" (the " Internal Service Force "), and circuit sessional courts— these last being commissions periodically sent from the centre to supervise local mass shootings. And there were the special branches and special tribunals attached to the several armies (which, again, numbered sixteen), and the special branches and tribunals attached to the several divisions of those armies.

Hence, in all, we may assume that there existed fully a thousand torture chambers—or, if we take into account also the activities of the district Che-Kas at that period, more than a thousand; considerably more [ Fusion Centers? ].

And later, as the R.S.F.S.R. still further increased the number of its provinces (Siberia and the Crimea and the Far East becoming overrun), that increase must have been accompanied by an increase in the number of the torture chambers.

Whence, taking the Bolshevists' own totals for 1920 (though during that year no real decrease of terrorism set in— merely it was that acts perpetrated by terrorism began to be reported less frequently), we can fix upon a certain definite figure for the daily average of killing per torture centre, and see thence that the curve of shootings rose from one to fifty as regards the larger centres, and from one to one hundred as regards regions in recent occupation by the Red Army. And since terroristic outbursts always were periodical in their outbreaking and
their decreasing, a modest estimate of the average will work out at five persons per diem
IN its general report on Bolshevist activities during the years 1918 and 1919 the Denikin Commission has stated that the number of victims during the two years totalled 1,700,000; and, seeing that the materials collected by that Commission have not yet been fully, or anything like fully, examined, and I myself have confined my figures exclusively to deaths resultant from " legal " or "administrative" action, to deaths following upon sentence passed directly by a revolutionary authority, there can be little doubt that the actual total of the Terror's victims has been incomparably larger.

I believe what we are seeing today is the deployment of a global scientific red terror.
Red Terror in Asia

Chinese Communism developed and came to power with Stalin's support. But Red China's brutality was worse than Stalin's.

 This explains not only why Maoism was different from Leninism, but why it became an even more savage, barbarous and rigid ideology. The advent of Maoism added to Communism—which was already pitiless and bloodthirsty—a greater degree of ignorance, fanatic nationalism and hostility to culture and civilization. Total calamity was the result. Maoism was the worst kind of Communism; in fact we can say it was the worst of the worst
After reading Darwin, Mao became an ardent Communist

The idea of using Western ideas and inventions against the West was at its zenith in those days. In the wake of the famous May 4, 1919, demonstrations in Beijing, calls for modernity and patriotism, science and democracy, gained currency among intellectuals. ..."Lurking behind the scenes," as Tu Wei-ming [a professor of Chinese History and Philosophy] has pointed out in the winter 1996 issue of Daedalus, "was neither science nor democracy but scientism and populism.... nstrumental rationality and Jacobin-like collectivism fundamentally restructured the Chinese intellectual world in the post-May Fourth period." Reformers, such as Liang Qichao, who edited a clandestine journal, were influenced by a debased but popular version of Darwin and Spencer.

They saw race war as the key to progress.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Last Gun Store in San Francisco Closing in Response to Flood of Gun Controls
by AWR Hawkins 28 Sep 2015

In October, High Bridge Arms—the last gun store in San Francisco—will be closing its doors for good due to gun controls with which the store refuses to comply.

San Francisco has emerged as the gun control capital of California, with laws regulating everything from magazine capacity to allowable types of ammunition to limits on advertising to the manner in which guns must be stored–and beyond. For decades, High Bridge Arms has adapted to the passage of each new gun control, but it views the latest push as a step too far.

According to SFist, the newest control push “comes from Supervisor Mark Farrell (District 2), and proposes to require that all gun sales in San Francisco be videotaped.” It would also “further require that all gun and ammunition buyers’ names, birthdates, addresses and driver’s license numbers be supplied to the San Francisco Police Department. Sup. Farrell proposed the idea in July, and it may be voted on this month.”

Fox News reports that High Bridge Arms’ general manager, Steven Alcairo, said the store’s owners are tired of keeping up with the new regulations and equally tired of trying to guess what might come next. Alcairo said, “This time, it’s the idea of filming our customers taking delivery of items after they already completed waiting periods. We feel this is a tactic designed to discourage customers from coming to us.” He added, “This year, it’s this and next year will probably be something else. We don’t want to wait for it.”

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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What can happen when civilians are disarmed:
The Craft of Breaking A Man - Torture Methods Used by UB (Urzad Bezpieczenstwa, Bezpieka) Against Polish Underground Soldiers, And Democratic Opposition In Poland between 1944 And 1963 - An Introduction

“The operational methods of the NKVD, which control every aspect of life, had permeated everywhere, and demoralized weaker individuals. There are thousands of [communist] agents […] In comparison with the NKVD, the Gestapo methods are child's play.” General Leopold Okulicki, nom deguerre "Niedzwiadek".
The Mokotow Prison at 37 Rakowiecka Street in Warsaw, and its dreaded Departments "X", "XI", known as "The Palace of Miracles" (pol. "Pałac Cudów"), was among the most sinister and dreaded houses of detention, torture and executions in Poland.

Among hundreds of Polish patriots murdered there, were Cavalry Captain Witold Pilecki, Col. Łukasz Ciepliński , General Emil Fieldorf "Nil", Major Zygmunt Szendzielarz, "Łupaszka"", Major Hieronim Dekutowski, "Zapora", NSZ's Stanisław Kasznica, officers and soldiers of the Wolność i Niezawisłość (Freedom & Independence - WiN), Narodowe Siły Zbrojne / National Armed Forces (NSZ), Narodowe Zjednoczenie Wojskowe (NZW), and countless others who fought against the communism between 1944-1963, and beyond. In this video produced by "Gazeta Polska", Jacek Pawłowicz of the Institute of National Remembrance, IPN, takes us on a rare tour to one of the most hallowed places in Poland:
"The Place Where Communists Murdered Polish Heroes."
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2018, 10:52:40 am »
Democrats = Communists ?
California Democrat Threatens "Nukes" If Americans Don't Hand Over Their Guns
 by Tyler Durden
Fri, 11/16/2018

Well that escalated quickly...

Just days after taking back the House, a Democratic Congressmen has proposed outlawing "military-style semi-automatic assault weapons" and forcing existing owners to sell their weapons or face prosecution.

In a USA Today op-ed entitled ?Ban assault weapons, buy them back, go after resisters,? Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., argued Thursday that prior proposals to ban assault weapons ?would leave millions of assault weapons in our communities for decades to come.?

Swalwell proposes that the government should offer up to $1,000 for every weapon covered by a new ban, estimating that it would take $15 billion to buy back roughly 15 million weapons - and ?criminally prosecute any who choose to defy [the buyback] by keeping their weapons.?
As NBC News reports, this is a major departure from prior gun control proposals that typically exempt existing firearms; as in the past, Democrats and gun safety groups have carefully resisted proposals that could be interpreted as 'gun confiscation', a concept gun rights groups have often invoked as part of a slippery slope argument against more modest proposals like universal background checks.

John Cardillo
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Make no mistake, Democrats want to eradicate the Second Amendment, ban and seize all guns, and have all power rest with the state. These people are dangerously obsessed with power.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5