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TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« on: September 18, 2007, 12:39:33 am »
University of Florida student Tasered at Kerry forum

A University of Florida student is Tasered and arrested afterasking about Skull and Bones at a town hall forum, which featured Senator John Kerry, at the UF Auditorium on Sept. 17, 2007.


COINTELPRO just hijacked the discussion, the comments are even more disturbing.  Look how the comments show the clear intention of creating an atmosphere of acceptance to TOTAL TYRANNY AND POLICE STATE!


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what a crybaby... he was repeatedly told to stop resisting and he made a scene on purpose, like a little kid.
ericsunderland (27 seconds ago)   
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HAHA what a loser. I love watching college kids with no world view being put in their place. Viva Bush!
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(typo) "brain wash CIA"
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lol americans silly americans, "I did not do anything, I did not do anything." What a R-tard...yelling is doing something, asking stupid question is another, not cooperating with the cops is asking for taz.
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What a pussy. He started out ok but then it was obvious his only motive was to get attention.
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stupid liberal crybaby...listen to him cry like a bitch! exactly what we need running the country huh? He cant handle f**king cops but we expect liberals to protect the country from terrorists? Gimme a greak. I hope the police use their GLOCKS next time.
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 07:19:01 pm »
Free speach is great??? Give him a flag he will get better. In fact give all citizens flags and brown shirts, then we will know all the good guys.
Our country, try again, once al ong time ago, sounds like a myth.
Frug it, body sounts up to a million, gee whiz we have so much to be poud of.
Call it freedom, wear your flags, count all the bodies weve accoutned for , and dont forget to pay your taxes.
Sweet |Jesus, how I hate these scubag parasites, they feed of us and we appear to be falling for it. This wont last long folks. Bill of rights and constitution are just *&%$$¨&&*paper, RIGHT, either your with us or agaisnt us.
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2007, 07:21:35 pm »
Next thing they'll be gunning people down for free speech...
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 07:49:30 pm »
Reply. They won't Be gunning them down, they will recondition their thinking process. Can you see how the cowards flock together, the pathetic little majority's, they feel safe, and they feel powerfull.
The silent majority did not get involved in Vietnam until their kids they hoped would be heroes came home in bags.
One million innocents dead in Iraq, and one kid makes a statement and gets tiered, sound like America.
The Regime loves us, hell, we feed them money and blood, we kill for them, and we die for them. What a disgusting, sickening, evil bags of human waste.
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 09:07:30 pm »
If someone puts himself in the spotlight, and welcomes Questions and Answers, they are opening themselves to just about anything.  Goes with the territory doesn't it? WE are expected to except, Gays, Blacks, Whites, Jew, Mexican etc. etc. and all their beliefs and customs in the name of Tolerance. But when a person gets up and asks a question you don't like; its ok for 8 cops to drag him around, pounce on him, taser him, cuff him and put him in jail! Something is very wrong with this picture!  As for Mr. Kerry if he was half a man, he would have jumped off that stage and came to the aid of that kid! If Kerry can't handle a few unwanted question, he has no business being in the Senate in the first place! As for the school administrators and fellow students you too should be ashamed of your selves for standing by and doing nothing! I can't believe people aren't outraged by all this violence police are using towards good decent people these days!  Shame on you all!

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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 11:27:03 pm »
One thing I have found missing from comments or editorials is the fact that Kerry asked the cops to hold on and he would answer Meyer's question BEFORE the cops dragged him away.

This can clearly be seen and heard in the video of Tucker Carlson and some nitwit on MSNBC and available here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBcOQkUNjI

Meyer's two-part question (as best I could understand from the video):

"Were you a member of Skull and Bones in college [unintelligible]?  Were you in the same secret society?"   (holds right hand up in frustration with police officer who immediately informs him his time is up)

The police officers move in within three seconds of the end of his question and start taking a hold of Meyer by the arms.  Meyer, as he was perfectly within his Rights to do so, objects vehemently.

As this is happening, Kerry can be heard to say:

"Oh, that's alright.  Let me answer his question."

The senator clearly gives his approval to being asked the question and offers to answer it.  This is of no concern to the police as they begin their initial attempt to escort Meyer out of the auditorium to the applause of America haters in the audience.  Exactly at this moment, the police should have released Meyer as Kerry has not expressed any objection whatsoever to the question and clearly expresses a willingness to answer.

After hearing and seeing this, I no longer wonder just who was most uncomfortable with the question, Kerry or the person(s) directing this little storm trooper squadron.  Clearly, the campus police were foaming at the mouth at the chance to display some kind of show of force.  Like sharks and dogs with the taste of blood in their mouths, these cops were immediately oblivious to anything other than their primitive need to be brutal.

What happened before or after is unimportant.  Kerry expressed a willingness to answer an uncomfortable question.  Someone else didn't want him to have to answer it.  In no way do I excuse Kerry for not taking a strong stance in his statements later.  He should have defended Meyer and denounced the campus stazi police action as inappropriate and unAmerican.  He is no less slimey than he always has been.  He should have publicly stated that he was indeed willing to answer Meyer's question and the cops refused to afford him the a civil opportunity to do so. 

For their egregious violation his Rights, I hope and pray that a jury gives Meyer everything these cops own, and then some more from the U of F.
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TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 cops
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2007, 07:19:40 am »
TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 cops

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=6858.0
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    We've got to keep getting in their faces, even if it means being tazed.   This kid is very brave, and the rest of the idiots in the room sat by and did exactly what they were trained to do - be passive.  Some have decried this act, as well as Alex J.'s at Geraldo Rivera big show, that it hurts the movement.  ...we're never going to survive unless we get a little crazy. 

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We are looking at a glimpse of what is to come in America. Asking hard questions of the elite, will get you in serious trouble. Like questioning Bush's Iraq war can result in the governments taking your property. Then off to the Fema camp for some reeducation? Thanks to Alex, more people are waking up. Our young generation will be our salvation.

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I said this is another thread about this, but the Fox News anchor here:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/190907Fox.htm
Has the completely wrong idea of what the law is despite his being a lawyer (sure).

He says: "When [the cops] ask you to do something, you have to do it. That's the law."
1. That's not asking then is it?
2. No, Mr. Lawyer, that is NOT the law (thank god).


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Re: TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 c
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2007, 11:24:47 am »
at no point on the video did they read him his rights.
not the video in the auditorium or outside of it after.
one of the cops was strong enough to carry him up the stairs as he did and there were at least 4 other cops. and they couldnt handle this better? that's insane lol
he could have carried him out of the auditorium and pinned him, cuffed him and had someone read him his rights and there would have been much less of a scene than the way that they handled it.
of course the point is... what was he being arrested for. that was his question and it is mine.
he was a bit abrupt and assertive and even a bit snide in his communications but none of those are really a crime, he didnt endanger anybody, he didnt cause a riot. if anything the cop brutality... i would have thought that should cause a riot but all we get is people moving away, one punk laughing and just one girl screaming to leave him alone while Kerry drones on on the stage lol
the thing that irritated me the most...
in the video in the auditorium there is some asshole laughing in the background, even when he gets tazed the guy thinks that is funny.
i would like to find out what the student's reputation  is with his peers... maybe the other students didnt think too much of it because the kid is a problem child. i am not saying this is the case but i would like to research what the dynamics were in that crowd that the other students didnt do a thing while one of their peers is being brutalized.
now if it was me, i would have been very much more composed when asking the questions but confronting evil as in John Kerry is not easy for most people. it might also be possible that the kid knew all this would happen and wanted to get this attention so as to get his questions out on a broad scale on youtube and mass media. if that is the case then he is quite impressive really because he accomplished his mission even at the possible risk of putting himself in  harm's way.
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2007, 11:29:38 am »
see, this is wrong...
the way that we overcome brute force is not with brute force retaliation
it is by shining light and appealing to reason
the elite thugs who have created the mess that we are on understand brute force it is their only weapon
but they don't understand beauty, aesthetics, reason, the light of understanding, truth and knowledge.
those are our weapons, they dont even register with those who operate on brute force level.
it aint easy but its all we got and it is much more powerful than their brute force.
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    You have to keep in mind where this happened - Florida - home to all forms of sludge that tracks all the way to the top of the upper echelons of government.   Watch trends and take a look at how nothing but bad comes out of Florida - Jeb Bush, drug trafficing, Jack Abramhoff to name the few.  Nothing but a total shithole as far as I'm concerned and would be a great place to start A. Rev II in my opinion. 

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I wouldn't be suprised if the cops were trained to make overly-brutal public arrests just to set an example for the rest of the people watching.
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Re: TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 c
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2007, 05:43:12 pm »
Ya know ... I wonder if this PD/venue has received that GWB's/Roves "How to handle protesters" pamphlet??

I mean has a Republican event been held there?
The History Of Political Correctness or: Why have things gotten so crazy?

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Re: TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 c
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2007, 06:29:11 pm »
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9793807.html?pollSubmit=y&submit=submit&oid=1&mr=1&cid=6500&pid=9794147#

This is the video that has been deleted off you tube about the councilman who was blatantly shoved to the ground by a big hard mean police officer right through a door and then continously hits him on the ground several times even before the guy with the video camera gets to the scene maybe 10-15 seconds later.

It is gonna get ugly people and dont fight back use the law against the law enforcers because if your not resisiting or hit back they cannot arrest you and don't use any slang or swear words cause they will use it to arrest you.

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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2007, 07:23:50 pm »
I thought i sent a message on JK but it must have been lost. When i ws in Vietnam i met some of the sailors who knew him well, sum it up, they did not like John. The mens summary, he is a freak, he kills farm animals foor fun, and all this guy wants is to get himself some medals and get political. I said it nicely they did not. He was stationed with swiftboats, gunboats on rivers in nam, i met these guys during a very hairy night at a bridge, we spent the night staying alive and speaking very thurhtfully, survival situations bring on honesty.
Allmost forgot I saw Jk at the Vets against the war catching the limelight.

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Re: TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 c
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2007, 08:09:23 pm »
Alen_craig87: I watched that film you linked too. Am I the only one that noticed the reflection in the display cabinet in the hall way? Look and you will see the pork rush this guy through the outer door.The cop should be fired and up on assault charges.

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This is a truly shocking incident.

And unfortunately the young man is not able to be contacted, at the moment, which is probably no surprise as he is almost certainly being subjected to family pressure - 'to do the right thing' - to appoint a lawyer and keep a low profile and hope this whole thing goes away with the hope that any charges against him will be dropped.

What he should have done is gone onto the Alex Jones show and blasted the cops and the organisers of the event and notified them - on air -of his intention to sue the pants off their arses!

A truly remarkable young man.....with guts.....let's hope the show's producers can get him on air one day and give him the credit he rightly deserves for standing up to the NWO! 

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Re: TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 c
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2007, 12:16:19 pm »
Hi everybody, I’ll include here the short posts (less than 500 characters) I have posted in YouTube about “UF Student Tasered Kerry”:
1) FREEDOM OF SPEECH? We all have this right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
2) Meyer has the RIGHT to ask INCONVENIENT QUESTIONS (Skull & Bones), plus only used the mic for 1 min 27 seconds!
3) CENSORSHIP? It is UNACCEPTABLE in a free society
4) Resisting unlawful orders? SUPREME COURT RULINGS:
"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary. Plummer v State 136 Ind 306
5) 9/11 = INSIDE JOB. IMPEACHMENT!
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The student has F-R-E-E-D-O-M  OF  S-P-E-E-C-H !!!
He CAN INDEED ASK INCONVENIENT QUESTIONS !!!
wikipedia:
Freedom of speech is the concept of being able to speak freely without censorship. It is an integral concept in modern liberal democracies. This right is guaranteed under international law through numerous human rights instruments, notably under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, although implementation remains lacking in many countries.
Sue the University !!!!!
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SUPREME COURT RULINGS:
"An illegal arrest is an assault & battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery" State v Robinson 145 ME 77, 72 ATL 260
"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary. Plummer v State 136 Ind 306
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In the FIRST place, Police violated Meyer’s right to Freedom of Speech. He has the right to ask “inconvenient questions” about corruption in politics, Skull & Bones and the elite, etc.
Police used CENSORSHIP, which is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE in a free society
Police actions were DISPROPORTIONATE in relation to Meyer’s
WE ALL SHOULD ALSO ask inconvenient questions before USA becomes a Nazi dictatorship with Martial Law
9/11 = INSIDE JOB. IMPEACHMENT NOW!
WAKE UP, USA. Google 9/11
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What “really” got Meyer in trouble was the foul-smelling intentions of a corrupt elite which wants to silence the truth. The elite use CENSORSHIP first (all the time) and secondly they ask questions behind closed doors. That’s UNACCEPTABLE, period.
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The student has F-R-E-E-D-O-M  OF  S-P-E-E-C-H !!!
He CAN INDEED ASK INCONVENIENT QUESTIONS !!!
Sue the University of Florida !!!!!
Sue the University of Florida !!!!!
Sue the University of Florida !!!!!
Sue the University of Florida !!!!!
Other wise, this will become a dictatorship of criminals, a foul-smelling MAFIA !!!
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The corrupt elite use censorship as a regular tactic to suppress dissent
CENSORSHIP is UNACCEPTABLE in a free society
Resisting unlawful orders? SUPREME COURT RULINGS:
"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary. Plummer v State 136 Ind 306
9/11 = INSIDE JOB. IMPEACHMENT!
USA, wake up and stand up for your rights now or you’ll loose them.
Peaceful CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE NOW
Let’s take this issue to the streets. Protest! It’s too important
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The answer is non-violent C-I-V-I-L  D-I-S-O-B-E-D-I-E-N-C-E !!!
F-R-E-E-D-O-M  OF  S-P-E-E-C-H !!!
Sue the University of Florida !!!!!
The elite are criminals. They orchestrated 9/11, which was an INSIDE JOB. They do not like inconvenient questions and they use CENSORSHIP and police force to suppress them.
Watch the video Freedom to Fascism, by Aaron Russo.
People WAKE UP and act now, before it’s too late.
non-violent CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE and IMPEACHMENT NOW !!!
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Let’s take this issue to the streets. Civil Protest! This is too important !!!

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Holy crap dude, the law is overly specific about this, there is absolutely NO WIGGLE ROOM. 

It is 100% legal to resist (to the point of lethal force) a cop to defend your liberties, WTF?

No one has ever told us these laws:

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest
http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.

As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2007, 09:00:05 pm »
The setup is pretty obvious.  These guys are so arrogant they use the MSM for 90% of mind control and the blogs for 10% of the control.  The scripts were easily figured out and I even posted one of the original ones.  The other thing is the number of sleeper COINTELPRO bloggers are out there.  They just post generally normal stuff, and even contribute hot leads (nothing big a 4th grader could do it), build some apport as being somewhat informed, then during a false flag attack (be it civil disobedience, blackwater shooting the heads off of infants, or a kid getting publicly tortured, then they start getting all spooky.

On the liberal blogs, the sleeper blog script would read that the guy went too far (in the left/right paradigm, the left is supposed to be as a castrated farm animal, so they  think they can promote this BS), and on the neocon blogs, they say that kerry showed courage and restraint.

And then they follow it up with GE's full spectrum of BS (look up MSNBC Full Spectrum).

This thing had international COINTELPRO working the angles all over, it was a total project.

I am still uncertain if the project was a "red alert" type project that got quickly initiated because of Skull and Bones/2004 election/ and the obvious impotence of a dem senator (obvious implications to Hillary Clinton), but when the backstabbing female friend of his confesses we may have more answers (doubtful she knew the end result, so her guilt must be eating away like crazy)

but all of this is somewhat circumstantial compared to millions of Americans now seeing the truth about tasers as a toy for cops.  and the complete breakdown of the faux-left/right paradigm
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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2007, 02:12:00 am »
I gotta agree as I posted on this incident in OpEd News and within minutes all sorts of newbie posted started making remarks to me.

In one case, I gotta guy who advocated segregated communities (not aware I am NDN in nature!!) and then I got a private message from someone who claims to be under attack in Indiana. Maybe she is; maybe she isn't. Her TIMING is what interests me as my views are widely known by what I post there.

The number of NEW diggers posting inflamatory projects on digg has skyrocketed over the summer.  And I have an editorial running on OpEd News about having to ally with racists (I mean REAL HATERS) right now about the cunundrum I face writing and being read by them and seeing them post on all the same issues I do.  On Digg, a plant made me a friend so that it is difficult to find what anyone else I do like is posting.  These tactics are NEW.

I see the counterintel pro at work on comments posted to everyone of these videos and see how they post the same damned things over and over, almost as if they were doing the same post by computer entry.  Wouldn't surprise me if they were.

I am somewhat aghast by what Andrew Meyer has been up to since the incident and as yet we have no idea what went on at the police station.l  I am surprised no one took it upon themselves to follow THAT.  My gut feeling (all I have) is that he had no idea at all about what was to ensue when he took up that mic.  What interests me is that they don't use the tasar UNTIL HE IS TOTALLY SUBDUED, and that seems to be a lesson we are to learn.

In the UCLA attack, the guy followed every single known procedure taught to those who follow pacifistic techniques and yet they just keep tasaring him.  So how can we suddenly tell people .. "be civil, don't resist" and so on when at times it seems to make no difference what a person does to avoid being tased?  What guidelines suddenly now apply?

I think it is right interesting to note how many of these tasar attacks on people are done to WOMEN, a disproportionate amount.  Just like the greatest of shock treatment administered in hospitals is  done to women.  Hmmmmmmm ....  I assume all have already seen Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine?  www.naomiklein.com or www.shockdoctrine.com.  My friends in the psychiatric survivor movement here in Toronto tell me that the use of shock treatment is WAY WAY up this year.  The first demonstration against it took place on  May 13th, and it could be that the two movements - shock treatment and antitasar movement could come together when people truly clock how related they both are.

As to the skull and bones comment .. how obvious could they get????  There is obviously an anti Meyer scenario going done or a very good psyop all worked as if Kerry KNEW at some point it was going to come down . .it was just a matter of time.  I hope Meyer doesn't make the mistake of suing the WRONG people when the time comes.

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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2007, 04:12:49 am »
longdevil himself said he was gonna answer the question  >:( >:( >:(
she better pack a lunch, cuz it's gonna take some time
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Re: TYRANNY ALERT: Student mentions Skull and Bones, gets tazered/tackled by 7 c
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2007, 04:42:18 am »
Holy crap dude, the law is overly specific about this, there is absolutely NO WIGGLE ROOM. 

It is 100% legal to resist (to the point of lethal force) a cop to defend your liberties, WTF?

No one has ever told us these laws:

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest
http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.

As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)

Hi Sane, that is an excellent compilation of articles about resisting an unlawful arrest. We should post them in YouTube and Diggit and everywhere else:

UF Student
http://video.google.es/videosearch?q=UF+Student

UF Student tasered at John Kerry Speech
http://digg.com/videos/people/UF_Student_tasered_at_John_Kerry_Speech

Peaceful CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE NOW

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Re: TYRANNY!!!!!!!! Ask About Skull and Bones...GET TAGGED AND BAGGED
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2007, 02:16:28 am »
Now MSM (FAX,  MSNBC, CNN) are running excerpt (17 pages of the 200 pages that have not been released) saying that Andrew gave a camera to a woman to tape the questions (same strategy as wearechange does).  The COINTELPRO part about it is that they say this means he wanted to get tazed.  WTF?  he wanted the questions taped like in wearechange videos, because MSM does not get answers to these questions.  Incredible how Dennis Jett is still blaming victims who get publicly tortured.  Also they are saying that he had a confrontation with a supporter of an NWO member a week earlier as if that shows motif of a crime.  THERE WAS NO CRIME, HE ASKED A QUESTION.

This shows how meniacal COINTELPRO is, Florida Law Enforcement was supposed to do a full evaluation on the cops.  They had detectives and funding to do all of this, but instead of investigating the torture cops, they investigated the victim.

WAKE UP,


THE INVESTIGATION WAS ON THE VICTIM TO DEFAME HIM

Florida Law Enforcement, it does not get any better than this!

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