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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2017, 03:32:42 pm »
House Votes Tuesday to Restore Consistent Online Privacy Regulation

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/28/house-votes-tuesday-to-restore-consistent-online-privacy-regulation/

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TechFreedom president Berin Szoka argued, “The FCC’s rules were unwise and unnecessary. The FCC will soon return broadband privacy policing to the Federal Trade Commission, where it belongs, like all online privacy. In the meantime, enacting this CRA will simply mean that the FCC will police broadband  privacy case-by-case — just as it had done under Democratic leadership after the FCC’s 2015 Open Internet Order deprived the FTC of its consumer protection power over broadband by reclassifying broadband as a common carrier service.”

Consumers Deserve Consistent Online Privacy Protection
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« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2017, 03:59:01 pm »
Tech faces public anger over internet privacy repeal (So what will big tech do to comfort the consumer? )

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/326816-tech-faces-public-anger-over-internet-privacy-repeal

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The Republican push to eliminate Obama-era consumer data protections is sparking a new national debate over online privacy, and putting internet companies on the defensive.

The measure blocking the online privacy rules is on the desk of President Trump, who is expected to sign it.

But the firestorm of controversy shows no signs of easing. Broadband titans such as AT&T and Comcast and web giants like Google and Facebook now find themselves under growing pressure over their privacy policies.
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“There has been a lot of misleading talk about how the congressional action this week to overturn the regulatory overreach of the prior FCC will now permit us to sell sensitive customer data without customers’ knowledge or consent. This is just not true,” wrote Gerard Lewis, Comcast senior vice president.

Despite the public furor, for now, companies are trying to reassure the public that little will change on the privacy front.

U.S. Telecom, a trade industry group, in a statement encouraging Trump to sign the repeal measure said "customers can rest easy" in a statement Tuesday, saying there were already other rules in place "to keep consumers' data safe."
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« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2017, 04:21:22 pm »
Key point to remember:

Obamas regulation wasn't set to kickin until Dec 2017, so technically nothing is changing with the repeal. This is why some feel the media is lying. They are hyperventilating to get people upset! Its what the media does best!

Also, if you are on a computer, or use a cellphone, you know there is really no privacy with or without Obamas FCC reg. If you have a Facebook page, the day you set it up, you gave up your privacy as far as Facebook is concerned. Are you upset about that?

Have you even read the privacy policy of all the places you go on the internet? For your ISP? Etc?

How many Apps do you have? What do you think happens when you click OK to download that free app?

What about all the surveillance the govt is involved in? Why does the media support and defend that? They dont hyperventilate about that.

Patriot Act? Do you not think that encroaches on your privacy? Oh but that has been forgotten due to all the other distractions.

You see. There is major hypocrisy on this issue.

THE OBAMA REG REPEAL IS THE LEAST OF YOUR WORRIES. IT WASNT EVEN IN FORCE YET. YOU ARE LOSING YOUR PRIVACY ON MANY FRONTS BECAUSE YOU LET WASHINGTON TAKE IT OVER MANY DECADES. DEMS AND REPUBS ARE BOTH GUILTY.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?





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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2017, 06:09:03 am »
Hang on a minute, take a pause.

Take time to read all of this, because I can see a lot of people simply don't know things.




Question :  Is Net Neutrality Good or Bad ?

Answer : Net Neutrality IS the Internet.

Before the Internet we had various private networks that was not necessarily connected. It seemed pretty obvious at the time, that if these networks could come to an agreement, then these networks could connect to each other, building a much bigger network, with much more content. It was suggested at the time that maybe people should pay to visit these other 'foreign' networks. Indeed, many initial bridges between networks started as pay-as-you-go arrangements. When they did the accounts, they kept finding that when networks joined the bill was pretty much 50/50 and the accounting was problematic at best and easily more trouble than it was worth.

Luckily for us, the big players realised that the best thing to do was call a Truce, and agree by Treaty to share and connect equally and fairly. That the benefits of working together to share, out weighed all other considerations.

That is the Internet.

It is a collection of Networks that are inter-connected without prejudice.



Question : Is Internet-2 Net Neutrality ?

Answer : You can not implement Internet-2 because it violates the principle of Net Neutrality which created the Internet in the first place.



Question : What is needed for Internet-2 ?

Answer :  A majority of Turkeys to Vote for Xmas

I will give one example, that is not true, just for illustrative purposes. Tell them its Racist. Ok, now that you stopped laughing, just remember that any issue that can be cloaked in obfuscation can be described to a voting block in simplistic terms with the appropriate Trigger word.  Yup, tell a large herd of Obama Bots that some how net neutrality is racist, as it enforces and supports white privilege... Ok, your still laughing at the Obama Bots. Well, who wants miserable posts on a Monday. Feel free to laugh.

Now for the not so funny answer, just tell them that net neutrality is egalitarian socialism, that its cover and code words for a UN take over, that it is (add other Trigger KeyWords as required such as Obama .....) etc . . .


Conclusion

You should realise that net neutrality and the internet are identical, what you do with that information is up to you.

What you should not do is treat this a some kind of Republicans versus Democrats as some issues are much bigger than mere party politics.

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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #84 on: April 03, 2017, 11:11:12 am »

Eg,

I dont have a problem with you having a dif viewpoint. Start your own thread on that topic if you feel that strongly about it, and wish to share it.

If you would handle this better, you could educate people. I see this issue as multi faceted and an incremental attack on the free internet over several presidencys'. You are talking about only one aspect which doesnt show the whole incremental picture.

Thus, there are things we are both right about, but talking on two different levels (yours is more technical) mine is a full picture view that involves decades of actions the globalist have engaged in to eventually control the internet sometimes using regulations. Trump is rolling back these regs, etc, to interrupt this incremental globalist attack on the net. Imo

I appreciate your computer knowledge, EG, but im asking you to appreciate my full picture view that comes from decades of research. Thank you!
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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #85 on: April 03, 2017, 11:51:53 am »
Trump’s new FCC chief is Ajit Pai, and he wants to destroy net neutrality
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/23/14338522/fcc-chairman-ajit-pai-donald-trump-appointment

So is this a good or bad - that he wants to dismantle Net Neutrality ?
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« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2017, 12:18:41 pm »
So is this a good or bad - that he wants to dismantle Net Neutrality ?

There are different views on Net Neutrality. Here's another view:

Why You Should Demand 'Net Morality' Instead of 'Net Neutrality'

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160405_why_you_should_demand_net_morality_instead_of_net_neutrality/

http://www.martingeddes.com/1261-2/

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I would like to offer you an alternative framing to "net neutrality", that of "net morality". This places the focus back where it belongs: on people, instead of on packets. This framing will, I hope, convince some of you who are of good conscience to consider actively resisting the inevitable mounting harm that technically naïve "net neutrality" policies will inflict upon the public.


It's very common in US politics for Congressmen (really think tanks, etc write bills and have some manipulated goon pass it) to write bills that imply one thing in their titles but very different in content that is manipulative. One Ex: The Patriot Act (there is nothing patriotic about the patriot act, it takes freedoms).

Thus, how can anyone trust any bill, when this manipulation is going on and where they change the text of bills in the middle of the night and then ram them through.

This is another example of OTHER THINGS GOING ON WITH THESE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS going through the US Congress.

Just the fact that Obama rammed this secretive bill through the last days of his presidency should be enough for people to see a problem! He did this with other legislation also that is highly suspicious and inappropriate for a President to do his last months in office. I see an agenda behind these highly unprofessional moves, and so do others.

So, EG, we are talking apples and oranges.

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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2017, 12:28:36 pm »
So is this a good or bad - that he wants to dismantle Net Neutrality ?

So EG, do you think net neutrality is a good thing?
I think it's a vague and obsure promise that has not, can not, and will never materialize.
At the core, net neutrality was supposed to guarantee all 'packets' of information would be delivered to internet users equitably... no preference for a (example) CNN packet vs. an Infowars packet.

From the article you linked, "Pai has long been critical of net neutrality, saying that the problem it’s trying to solve — big internet providers acting as gatekeepers to what we see and do online — doesn’t exist. He recently reiterated a prediction that the commission’s Open Internet Order, which established net neutrality, would be reversed or overturned in one way or another. He’ll now have the chance to play a role in that.

We know that was BS.
Because the idea of net neutrality was great - but the bottom line is that Comcast (for example) controls whatever info goes down the pipe to users at their computers, or on their tv, or landline phones. So the 'gatekeeper' is there, and we have to trust they will not censor the packets (the promise of net neutrality).

I think the MUCH LARGER issue is the transfer of regulating ISPs from the FCC to the FTC.
We were supposed to be protected from having our individual user data SOLD by the ISPs, and lifting the regulation at the FCC allows them to do that. They can sell our data. Today.

So... I don't understand how the ISPs will be 'moved' under the FTC,
nor do I understand how the FTC will protect user data privacy.

The larger issue - privacy  - is getting buried (covered up ) by the "net neutrality" narrative.
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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #88 on: April 03, 2017, 12:48:23 pm »
There are different views on Net Neutrality. Here's another view:

Why You Should Demand 'Net Morality' Instead of 'Net Neutrality'


Agreed but perhaps we should go a little bit further.  We should install the Code of Practices for Television Broadcasters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Practices_for_Television_Broadcasters

The Code of Practices for Television Broadcasters, also known as the Television Code, was a set of ethical standards adopted by the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) for television. The code was established on December 6, 1951. Compliance with the code was indicated by the "Seal of Good Practice", displayed during closing credits on most United States television programs, and on some US TV station sign-on and sign-offs from 1952 through the early 1980s.

The code prohibited the use of profanity, the negative portrayal of family life, irreverence for God and religion, illicit sex, drunkenness and addiction, presentation of cruelty, detailed techniques of crime, the use of horror for its own sake, and the negative portrayal of law enforcement officials, among others. The code regulated how performers should dress and move to be within the "bounds of decency". Further, news reporting was to be "factual, fair and without bias" and commentary and analysis should be "clearly defined as such". Broadcasters were to make time available for religious broadcasting and were discouraged from charging religious bodies for access. Most importantly, it limited the commercial minutes per hour.[1]

In the wake of a settlement with the Justice Department, the code was suspended in 1983.[2][3][4]

A scholarly discussion titled "Self-Regulation and the Media" by Angela J. Campbell, (1999) examines media self-regulation and concludes that "Applying these five factors to digital television public interest responsibilities and privacy on the Internet, it concludes that self-regulation is not likely to be successful in these contexts." This is a well-documented report.[5]

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Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #89 on: April 03, 2017, 12:52:05 pm »
The larger issue - privacy  - is getting buried (covered up ) by the "net neutrality" narrative.

Exactly, I thought if I explained Net Neutrality it might kinda wake people up to what is hoax and what is real.

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« Reply #90 on: April 03, 2017, 01:09:28 pm »
So EG, do you think net neutrality is a good thing?

If you want Internet-2, then Net Neutrality must be deleted.



I think it's a vague and obsure promise that has not, can not, and will never materialize.
At the core, net neutrality was supposed to guarantee all 'packets' of information would be delivered to internet users equitably... no preference for a (example) CNN packet vs. an Infowars packet.

To cut through the BS, the ISPs subscribe to many customers to small an internet pipe.
Guess what, instead of admitting they play the blame game and other sneak tricks.
I know its being broken by ISPs doing such things under  the guise of "Traffic Management".
BUT at least they have to lie about it because its illegal, and that kinda keeps them under some sort of control.
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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #91 on: April 03, 2017, 02:48:24 pm »
If you want Internet-2, then Net Neutrality must be deleted.



To cut through the BS, the ISPs subscribe to many customers to small an internet pipe.
Guess what, instead of admitting they play the blame game and other sneak tricks.
I know its being broken by ISPs doing such things under  the guise of "Traffic Management".
BUT at least they have to lie about it because its illegal, and that kinda keeps them under some sort of control.

Yes, they have to pretend to enforce Net Neutrality (and complain of 'traffic management' problems) to maintain the farce.

But I think the larger issue is about privacy. We know (from Snowden) that it's all about data collection, all about building profiles (dossiers) on everyone on the planet - depositing it in the giant database in Utah.

Hang on a minute, take a pause.

Take time to read all of this, because I can see a lot of people simply don't know things.

So the idea of Net Neutrality was a beautiful thing. It really was. But did we actually expect it to be really equitable distribution of packets of information across this vast internet we have?  I think it's useful to go back and look at a little history...

The idea of the global interconnected network was first proposed by a guy at MIT, who then went on to work at DARPA - in 1962!
The work done at DARPA was the birth of "ARPANET."

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In late 1966 Roberts went to DARPA to develop the computer network concept and quickly put together his plan for the "ARPANET", publishing it in 1967. At the conference where he presented the paper, there was also a paper on a packet network concept from the UK by Donald Davies and Roger Scantlebury of NPL. Scantlebury told Roberts about the NPL work as well as that of Paul Baran and others at RAND. The RAND group had written a paper on packet switching networks for secure voice in the military in 1964. It happened that the work at MIT (1961-1967), at RAND (1962-1965), and at NPL (1964-1967) had all proceeded in parallel without any of the researchers knowing about the other work. The word "packet" was adopted from the work at NPL and the proposed line speed to be used in the ARPANET design was upgraded from 2.4 kbps to 50 kbps.

So we know the internet was developed and paid for by the military (DARPA), in conjunction with our pals from the UK. It was funded and controlled by the folks at DARPA (e.g., the MIC) and RAND.

So why is this important to remember....
- it's about how information flows across the interconnected networks
- who gets to control WHAT information gets passed along?
- who controls the RATE (speed) at which information gets passed?


So the idea of net neutrality is excellent - equal opportunity for everyone to communicate via the internet.
But the fact that it was developed by the MIC, in conjunction with brainy folks at MIT and elsewhere, means we have to remember that they don't develop and then open this vast network to the general population without having some GOOD REASONS to do so:

The Internet is a Surveillance Tool

At one time, back in the 90s, we had AOL and Myspace applications that served as the "internet" for millions of users. But those were contained environments, with walls around the application, allowing only 'approved' content. There was no browser to take users out to the unedited internet. And they collected data on user habits; they tracked it to "see what users are interested in for marketing purposes," but in fact, it was user data that could be put to ANY use, including intelligence.

Then, in the late 90s, these contained apps opened up to integrate web browsers. All of a sudden, millions of users now had access to content that wasn't 'controlled' by the gatekeepers. But there were new gatekeepers (really, new observers and collectors of data.)

The formerly 'contained' environments have been replaced with social networks like Facebook, Twitter, and search tools like Google... notice anything?

All controlled and monitored by the intelligence arm of the MIC.

Add the NSA revelations from Snowden (all data is collected in a giant database in Utah)...
And add Palantir as the app to manage all that data, and create user profiles based on internet searches, facebook friends, etc.

As for the lifting of the rule prohibiting selling user data by ISPs... they just want to recoup their loss when the internet became the major source of information sharing, replacing the network news shows, which are now just propaganda engines. People moved away to get and share info on the internet, some actually don't even subscribe to the cable world, preferring content from the internet.

Where does the FTC come in on this?
Federat TRADE Commission... charging users to access information in "packages" like cable bundles (Get basic, expanded, HBO, and for a few more dollars, sports channels... etc.)
The bundles are pre-determined.

So if they employ that business model (worked before, it will work again), what's to prevent them from making bundled packages for access... (get MSNBC, Fox, CBS, etc.) and for a few extra dollars...

Lifting the rule was WRONG, because our ISPs are under FCC ruling now.
Moving the ISPs to come under the FTC is an unknown.

The Internet 2 is coming - it's a globalist agenda item. We'll have to see how the Trump administration handles this.

The conference is in April in Washington DC:


Here's one planned for  04/26/17 03:00PM-04:00PM:
Digital Collaboration in Science Requires New Approaches to Handling Data and Identity
https://meetings.internet2.edu/2017-global-summit/detail/10004565/

SESSION ABSTRACT

Best practices, regulation, and the nature of Big Data require that science data sharing platforms incorporate information about data origin and ownership. However, little attention has been granted to the real and large problems of identity, ownership, and provenance, especially in international biomedical research.

The traditional IT approach of building "science DMZs" and networked systems that support higher data throughput and greater computing performance can no longer realistically keep up with trends in data growth. Innovative international research may have multiple regulatory barriers to the transfer of data across national boundaries. These realities drive the paradigm shift of relocating the compute tools with the data, which also facilitates transnational collaborations in human biomedical research.

Collaborative platforms that integrate institutional identity as well as individual identity will have more complete compliance with guidelines for human subject research. Using institutional identities for researchers who provide and use data sharing platforms for collaboration also builds trust in those platforms. Trust federations like InCommon and federations-of-federations like eduGAIN provide a framework for institutional and individual identity that can promote researcher's trust in data and computational tool sharing. This presentation reviews the integration of identity federations into the data sharing and computational bioscience environment for international research at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

SPEAKER Michael Tartakovsky National Institutes of Health/National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #92 on: April 04, 2017, 07:22:46 am »

But I think the larger issue is about privacy.
We know (from Snowden) that it's all about data collection,
all about building profiles (dossiers) on everyone on the planet
 - depositing it in the giant database in Utah.


It is all about Privacy . . .

It has nothing what so ever to do with Party Politics and everything to do with Swamp Creature Ajit Pai Chairman of FCC

Ajit Pai was appointed by Obama
Ajit Pai continues under Trump


Spot the contradiction proving he is Internet-2 Agent :

(A) Think about it, one minute he is so right wing he thinks privacy laws are obstructing profits for corps
(B) He wants a socialist internet tax subsidy for poor families broadband.

It only makes sense when you realise that an Internet-2 Spygrid must include the Poor Folks.
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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trump Advisers plan
« Reply #93 on: April 04, 2017, 07:53:47 am »
Please Leave Trump Alone ?
Does anyone really, really, think that these ideas came from Trump ?
Can anyone imagine a Trump Rally and The Donald saying we are going to sell your privacy to boost the economy ? ?

It is my opinion that it is insane to drag Trump into all of this, and that swamp creature adviser manipulators are simply trying to "cash in" on Trumps good name and trust of his supporters.
Which I find utterly despicable . . . .
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Re: Net Neutrality and Privacy concerns: FCC to FTC & Trumps's plan
« Reply #94 on: April 14, 2017, 12:04:25 pm »
trump dont care about your privacy, he cares about his
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« Reply #95 on: April 17, 2017, 12:49:03 pm »
SOROS, GOOGLE FUNDING “NET NEUTRALITY” GROUPS TO CONTROL INTERNET, CENSOR INFOWARS.COM $72 million spent since 2006 to control Internet under guise of "net neutrality"
https://www.infowars.com/soros-google-funding-net-neutrality-groups-to-control-internet-censor-infowars-com/
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« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2017, 11:48:35 am »
Soros and Google have turned "net neutrality" into a false flag astroturf movement.

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« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2017, 11:40:09 am »
bump for fcc net neutrality kill joys ...

see:

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

This is your last chance to stop ISPs from messing up your Internet.

The FCC just announced its plan to slash net neutrality rules, allowing ISPs like Verizon to block apps, slow websites, and charge fees to control what you see & do online. They vote December 14th. But if Congress gets enough calls, *they* can stop the FCC.



Want to do more? Attend a protest!

The new chairman of the FCC was a top lawyer at Verizon. And now he's calling for a vote to kill net neutrality, as a gift to his former employer. So on December 7th we’re protesting outside Verizon retail stores across the U.S. to demand that Congress stop the FCC from destroying the Internet as we know it. Attend a protest near you.
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What is net neutrality? Why does it matter?

Net neutrality is the principle that Internet providers like Comcast & Verizon should not control what we see and do online. In 2015, startups, Internet freedom groups, and 3.7 million commenters won strong net neutrality rules from the US Federal Communication Commission (FCC). The rules prohibit Internet providers from blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization—"fast lanes" for sites that pay, and slow lanes for everyone else.
We are Team Internet. We support net neutrality, freedom of speech.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/technology/fcc-net-neutrality.html

F.C.C. Plans Net Neutrality Repeal in a Victory for Telecoms
By CECILIA KANG
NOV. 21, 2017

The Federal Communications Commission released a plan on Tuesday to dismantle landmark regulations that ensure equal access to the internet, clearing the way for internet service companies to charge users more to see certain content and to curb access to some websites.

The proposal, made by the F.C.C. chairman, Ajit Pai, is a sweeping repeal of rules put in place by the Obama administration. The rules prohibit high-speed internet service providers, or I.S.P.s, from stopping or slowing down the delivery of websites. They also prevent the companies from charging customers extra fees for high-quality streaming and other services.

The announcement set off a fight over free speech and the control of the internet, pitting telecom titans like AT&T and Verizon against internet giants like Google and Amazon. The internet companies warned that rolling back the rules could make the telecom companies powerful gatekeepers to information and entertainment. The telecom companies say that the existing rules prevent them from offering customers a wider selection of services at higher and lower price points.

“Under my proposal, the federal government will stop micromanaging the internet,” Mr. Pai said in a statement. “Instead, the F.C.C. would simply require internet service providers to be transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy the service plan that’s best for them.”

Mr. Pai, a Republican who has pursued an aggressive deregulation agenda, was widely expected to have his plan approved during a meeting on Dec. 14. The two other Republicans on the commission generally vote with Mr. Pai, giving them a majority over the two Democrats.
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Telecom and internet companies are expected to lobby hard in Washington — and directly to the public — as they did when the current rules were adopted.

Some internet companies were expected to put up a fight to prevent the proposal from taking hold. The Internet Association, an industry group, joined a legal effort in 2015 to protect the existing rules. The agency has already received 20 million public comments, many of them in opposition of changing the rules, since Mr. Pai announced the broad outlines of his thinking early this year.

The big companies that provide internet access to phones and computers have fought for years against broadband regulations. Under the new plan, broadband providers will be able to block access, slow down or speed up service for its business partners in some cases — as long as they notify customers.

“This action will return broadband in the U.S. to a regulatory regime that emphasizes private investment and innovation over lumbering government intervention,” said Joan Marsh, a vice president at AT&T.

Big online companies like Google and Facebook say the repeal proposal would allow telecom companies to play favorites by charging customers for accessing some sites or by slowing speeds to others. The existing rules were written to prevent such arrangements, adopting a policy often called net neutrality.

“We are disappointed that the proposal announced today by the F.C.C. fails to maintain the strong net neutrality protections that will ensure the internet remains open for everyone,” Erin Egan, a vice president at Facebook, said in a statement. “We will work with all stakeholders committed to this principle.”

Small online companies believe the proposal would hurt innovation, because telecom companies could force them to pay more for the faster connections. Only the largest companies, they say, would be able to afford the expense of making sure their sites received preferred treatment. Companies like Etsy and Pinterest, for example, credit their start to the promise of free and open access on the internet.

And consumers, the online companies say, may see their costs go up if, for example, they want high-quality access to popular websites like Netflix, a company that depends on fast connections for its streaming videos. Netflix said on Tuesday that it opposed Mr. Pai’s proposal.

The action “represents the end of net neutrality as we know it and defies the will of millions of Americans,” said Michael Beckerman, chief executive of the Internet Association, a lobbying group that represents Google, Facebook, Amazon and other tech companies.

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The plan to repeal the existing rules, passed in 2015, would reverse a hallmark decision by the agency to consider broadband a public utility, as essential as phones and electricity. The earlier decision created the legal foundation for the current rules and underscored the importance of high-speed internet service. It was put in place by Tom Wheeler, an F.C.C. chairman under President Obama.

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 On Tuesday, in addition to the net neutrality rollback, Mr. Pai announced a plan to eliminate a rule limiting any corporation from controlling broadcasts that can reach more than 39 percent of American homes.

The fight over net neutrality could end up being one of his biggest and most fraught decisions. For more than a decade, the agency has struggled with how to regulate internet service, leading to extended legal battles. The rules adopted under Mr. Wheeler were upheld in 2016 by a federal appeals court in Washington.

The proposal released on Tuesday will probably make its way to court as well. And companies like Google and Facebook are expected to push the public to speak out against the plan. They coordinated a huge online protest against the possible changes in July.

Some of the lobbying could take place in Congress, even though it may change little because Republicans control both houses. Nevertheless, Democrats have vowed to try to reconstruct the strict rules adopted by the F.C.C. in 2015.
The next three weeks promise to hold intense lobbying from both sides, but that might not be the end of it. The regulation of internet providers has already swung once on a change in the Oval Office.

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“As good as the F.C.C.’s action is for I.S.P.s, it only assures nonregulation of broadband through 2020,” said Paul Gallant, an analyst at the research firm Cowen.
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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2017, 12:14:21 pm »
http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/21/ajit-pai-net-neutrality-podcast
FCC Head Ajit Pai: Killing Net Neutrality Will Set the Internet Free
Promises that "we're going to see an explosion in the kinds of connectivity and the depth of that connectivity" like never before.

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Nov. 21, 2017 5:40 pm

In an exclusive interview today just hours after announcing his plan to repeal "Net Neutrality" rules governing the actions of Internet-service providers (ISPs) and mobile carriers, Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Ajit Pai has an in-your-face prediction for his critics: "Over the coming years, we're going to see an explosion in the kinds of connectivity and the depth of that connectivity," he said this afternoon. "Ultimately that means that the human capital in the United States that's currently on the shelf—the people who don't have digital opportunity—will become participants in the digital economy."

Pai stressed that regulating the Internet under a Title II framework originally created in the 1930s had led to less investment in infrastructure and a slower rate of innovation.

"Since the dawn of the commercial internet, ISPs have been investing as much as they can in networks in order to upgrade their facilities and to compete with each other," he says. "Outside of a recession we've never seen that sort of investment go down year over year. But we did in 2015, after these regulations were adopted."

 In a Wall Street Journal column published today, Pai says Title II was responsible for a nearly 6 percent decline in broadband network investment as ISPs saw compliance costs rise and the regulatory atmosphere become uncertain. In his interview with Reason, Pai stressed that the real losers under Net Neutrality were people living in rural areas and low-income Americans who were stuck on the bad end of "the digital divide."

Proponents of Net Neutrality maintain that rules that went into effect in 2015 are the only thing standing between rapacious businesses such as Comcast, Verizon (where Pai once worked), and Spectrum and an Internet choking on throttled traffic, expensive "fast lanes," and completely blocked sites that displease whatever corporate entity controls the last mile of fiber into your home or business.

Pai says that is bunk and noted that today's proposed changes, which are expected to pass full FCC review in mid-December, return the Internet to the light-touch regulatory regime that governed it from the mid-1990s until 2015.
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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2017, 07:10:57 pm »
In order to roll out Internet2.....
Net Neutrality has to be destroyed.
Simplez.

Remember with Internet2, you pay extra to go on the corporate network, while the old internet is left to degrade. You can not have Net Neutrality and a Fast Lane.

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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #100 on: November 28, 2017, 02:32:12 pm »
PAI HAS VOTES NEEDED TO REPEAL OBAMA-ERA “NET NEUTRALITY” RULES

https://www.infowars.com/pai-has-votes-needed-to-repeal-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules/
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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #101 on: November 28, 2017, 02:40:59 pm »
what is amazing is we really have no idea what these "rules" are.  1984 we have arrived ,,.

for or against?


 

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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #102 on: November 28, 2017, 03:37:28 pm »
Net neutrality repeal means your internet may never be the same
https://www.cnet.com/news/net-neutrality-fcc-2017-repeal-what-it-means/

Pai Proposal - FCC Fact Sheet
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1122/DOC-347927A1.pdf



Will there be unintended consequences?
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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #103 on: November 28, 2017, 04:08:47 pm »
Net Neutrality 101: Why 'Title II' Doesn't Apply to Internet Transmissions

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20171030_netneutrality_title_ii_does_not_apply_to_internet_transmissions/

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Title II is wholly unsuited to this task, because it doesn't apply to Silicon Valley companies that control access to many of the internet's core functionalities.

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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #104 on: November 28, 2017, 04:28:10 pm »
The Truth About Net Neutrality - Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z_nBhfpmk4
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« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2017, 06:53:00 pm »
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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2017, 04:46:31 pm »
FCC CHIEF: WEB GIANTS FIGHTING 'NEUTRALITY' CHANGES TO 'CEMENT THEIR DOMINANCE' - 'Let's not kid ourselves. When it comes to an open Internet, Twitter is part of the problem'

http://www.wnd.com/2017/11/fcc-chief-web-giants-fighting-neutrality-changes-to-cement-their-dominance/


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The FCC chairman then noted that Twitter is censoring and discriminating against conservatives, referencing when the social media platform prohibited Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., from promoting a campaign tweet that expressed her opposition to abortion.

“Now look: I love Twitter, and I use it all the time. But let’s not kid ourselves; when it comes to an open Internet, Twitter is part of the problem,” he said. “The company has a viewpoint and uses that viewpoint to discriminate.”
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Re: FCC To Introduce Net Neutrality Rule
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2017, 07:24:16 pm »
Twitter is not an ISP, nor is it one of the backbone network companies.
Seems some people still don't comprehend the difference between travelling and arriving.
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« Reply #108 on: November 30, 2017, 02:55:33 pm »
Jeffrey Tucker Bids Farewell to Net Neutrality (He is not a Trump fan but says Trump is doing the right thing on getting rid of Obama’s deceptive net neutrality)

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1327-jeffrey-tucker-bids-farewell-to-net-neutrality/
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« Reply #109 on: November 30, 2017, 04:51:55 pm »
Twitter is not an ISP, nor is it one of the backbone network companies.
Seems some people still don't comprehend the difference between travelling and arriving.

lets see ... carrier and content ... no conflict there ...  and it really doesn't matter because these big jokers are making deals between themselves ... suddenlink comcast qualcom  att ... google amazon apple netflix twitter faceplant ... nothing to see here ...

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In October 2016, the announcement that AT&T wanted to buy Time Warner helped bring some unity to a deeply divisive presidential race. The $85 billion deal aimed to combine the biggest telecom company in the country with some of the nation’s top news and entertainment producers, including HBO, TNT and CNN. Faced with the prospect of a media and data behemoth with unprecedented power over vital information, both the Democratic and Republican presidential nominees were skeptical of the deal.

Candidate Donald Trump vowed to block the merger if elected. “It’s too much power in the hands of too few,” he said. H
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« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2018, 04:31:25 pm »
Democratic Control: Senate Passes Resolution to Restore Net Neutrality
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/16/democratic-control-senate-passes-resolution-to-restore-net-neutrality/

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FreedomWorks Director of Policy Patrick Hedger wrote last week regarding the Senate Democrat CRA, “Senator Markey knows this CRA effort is nothing more than a show-vote during an election year. Even if it passes the Senate, it will not pass the House, and stands zero chance of passing President Trump’s desk.

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Phil Kerpen, the president of the conservative American Commitment, argued in an exclusive statement to Breitbart News that net neutrality serves as a significant carveout for Google and Facebook and will only diminish the freedom of the Internet.

Kerpen told Breitbart News:

Senate Democrats have lined up in lockstep with the vision outlined by avowed Marxist Robert McChesney, whose group was cited 47 times in the Obama public utility Internet order: “The ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control.”

They want to replace the wildly successful competitive, free-market approach that made the Internet with the public utility model that had municipal water, sewer, and transportation systems in a state of perpetual neglect – but to give a free ride to their friends at Google and Facebook that were completely carved out of the Obama rules. This political stunt vote will in the Senate will not result in any House action, and even if it somehow did would be stopped by a presidential veto.

Kerpen added, “So it’s really about political messaging – and the message is Democrats want a government controlled, heavily taxed Internet. Voters should pay attention.”
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