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Analysts say JP Morgan Chase (the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds) will emerge from the bank collapse as the big winner, becoming a megabank.

How sweet--you found/own the federal reserve, get the fed to cause a collapse by printing dollars and doling out the credit, then, as Alex often points out, move in and buy up the assets on the cheap.

First they got Bear Stearns, now they're going after Washington Mutual, and numerous banks across the nation will soon follow.

But Rothschild is merely doing what they've always done for hundreds of years.

And they take care of those who help them perpetrate these schemes:

Ex-Bear Stearns CEO joins Rothschild -NY Post:


Goldsmiths--Part IV

By R. D. Bradshaw

Previous articles on the Goldsmiths used the word “interventionalists” to describe them, along with manipulators and other appropriate descriptive terms.  Since the word “interventionalists” is not a dictionary word, some explanation is now forthcoming. 

The word interventionalists is a cross or mix between internationalists and interventionists.  The goldsmiths seem to be a complete mix between being internationalists and interventionists.  They are far removed from nationalism as they operate and plunder money from the suckers on a worldwide, international basis. 

They use the technique of intervention in the financial markets to create oscillating ups and downs so that they can be buyers at the periodic bottoms and sellers at the periodic highs.  Most of us are the reverse in psychology.  We tend to buy at the top and sell at the bottom.  Since the goldsmiths control the trend lines and know in advance where the tops and bottoms will fall, they are in the envious position of being able to buy and sell at the right moments to reap huge rewards. 


Too, while most of us tend to want to be long term investors (as we have been so trained to think by the goldsmiths with their control over the media and our educational sources), they are traders—regularly buying and selling a given item on the oscillating ups and downs to make their profits.  When they buy, they buy for the express purpose of selling when they reach their profit objective (which usually comes fairly soon).  This is called—“taking profits.”


Traders and investors are different people.  Frankly, I have always thought in the context of investing and never as trading back and forth.  This is why it has been difficult for me to play on the same field with these experts at trading who have been at their game for vast ages.  In terms of gold, I always wanted to be a long-term investor as I believed that the US dollar would collapse and gold and silver would survive in value.


More on the Rothschilds and their Team Players


From history, we know that the Rothschilds moved in on the US very early—evidently with the first and second US banks.  We also know that though they had to wait on the sidelines for some years before they achieved total success, that time did ultimately come in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Bank.  This thing was put together in the US by the fat cat Warburgs who were Rothschild relatives and agents. 


The old J. P. Morgan banking interest was evidently free from European influence when it started in the 1800s.  There is even evidence that in those early days the Morgan bank was a competitor of sorts with the Rothschilds.  But just after the turn of the century, the competition ended when the Rothschilds gained control of the Morgan interest—evidently through stock acquisitions. 


A similar turn of events happened with the Rockefellers.  The Rothschilds financed and supported old John D. Rockefeller in the 19th century.  But some time in the 20th century they became competitors of sorts.  But this competition ended recently when Rothschild’s’ Morgan bank merged with Chase Manhattan, which was the Rockefeller flagship. 


There was some speculation on whether the newly merged JP Morgan-Chase would be run by the Rockefellers or the Rothschilds.  But quickly that speculation ended because the Morgan interests took over the key management positions of the new bank.  Clearly, the conflict between the Rothschilds and Rockefellers seems to now be over.  The JPMC bank appears to be now firmly in the grip of the Rothschilds.


But in addition to the Morgan bank, the Rothschilds have allegedly been the financial power behind many of the Wall Street investment banks—certainly like Morgan Stanley and others as well.  Kuhn Loeb and Goldman Sachs are believed to be Rothschild players. 


When we add in family names to the mix, the Wall Street linkage to the Rothschilds becomes even more intense.  Important Wall Street names like the Schiffs and Warburgs have Rothschild ties that go all the way back to the early days in Frankfurt, Germany. 


As a curious fact on this theme, some readers may remember the Little Orphan Annie cartoon script that used to run in the daily papers.  There was a fat cat, super rich character in the series named Warbucks.  It is said that the Warbucks was patterned after the Warburgs. 


What This Means


This huge Rothschild control over Wall Street means that it is the House of Rothschild which calls many and/or most of the shots with the Federal Reserve Bank and the US government. 


If one doubts Rothschild power and influence for a minute, all he has to do is note how powerful Goldman Sachs is in US affairs.  It seems that there is a revolving door between GS and the US Treasury.  People float back and forth with regularly.  For proof of this reality, all one must do is note how recent Secretaries of the US Treasury came from GS—like Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers and Henry Paulson. 


A few years ago many of us will remember the Bill Clinton flap over the need to bail out the Mexican peso.  As Clinton told it, many American investors stood to lose some money over the fall of the peso.  So lovingly, Slick sent $20 billion to Mexico to help them out.  Later secret information came from the Fed that the Fed also sent $20 billion—making a total of $40 billion (all made without appropriation of the US Congress as the US Constitution so stipulates). 


As it turned out, the “needy” American investor was Goldman Sachs who had Mexican investments in the billions which could go down the tubes unless drastic action was taken.  Naturally, Bill Clinton and the Fed came to the rescue.  And that’s how the plutocrats operate. 


With this advance information that $40 billion would soon arrive in Mexico, is it conceivable that stock and currency traders could and in fact did make stacks of profits on the deal?  Yes, tipped off people/entities like GS, Morgan, etc cleaned up in this scam. 


There is another fall out of this event.  By getting the money the Mexican government gave up some/much/most of its control over its currency (which was probably a good thing because the Mexican government has been filled with grafters, crooks and bandits). 


Wall Street took over management of the Mexican peso and it has steadily gone up ever since.  Of course, in the deal, the US became a major buyer of Mexican products (oil, farm products, etc).  Now, it’s possible to put two and two together and understand why the US began running a major trade deficit with Mexico; whereas the US used to have a trade surplus.  Regardless, the whole process helps pave the way for a one currency between the two states (evidently like the coming Amero).


And did the Rothschilds and Goldman Sachs make any profits on this process.  Has a cat got a tail?




A final word must be said about the Russian-Georgian flap and the coming Iran war.  My view is that the Rothschilds have engineered, set-up and directed both of these wars.  Why?  The obvious answer is so that they can make vast new profits.  Interestingly, the Russian ruble is now one of the strongest currencies (with much Russian gold in back of it) presently in the world--far stronger than the worthless US dollar. The ruble had been looking good against the dollar until recently. 


So what happened with the Georgian invasion and agitation of Russia?  Russia responded and the ruble fell dramatically (although it seems to be slowly recovering).  Did fat cat plutocrats make a barrel of money on the collapse of the ruble?  And if the Rothschilds wanted another new villain (or Hitler of the week) for the mesmerized and duped American public, they now have a new one with Putin and Russia. 


The evidence is fully persuasive that the new plutocrat push against Russia is just one more step towards an ultimate WWIII with Russia (and China and much of the Muslim world, as a matter of fact).  But as noted earlier, it is thru the process of war that the Rothschilds and their allies really make money and clean-up. 


For More Reading/Information


For more reading on this issue, the reader may wish to check these sources:


The bestseller: “None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham, first published in 1971, still available on eBay, Amazon and other book outlets.


“Tragedy and Hope,” by Carroll Quigley.  At the 1992 Democrat Convention, Bill Clinton’s acceptance speech cited Quigley as Clinton’s mentor.


An Internet presentation on the Plutocrats, at Volume XXII of “Ezekiel and YHWH’s Judgment for the Good People,” at on the net. 


The author is not involved in the securities or financial market business and has no financial interest in presenting the information herein.  The preceding information on this subject is presented for general information only and not for purposes of investment advise or recommendations.  What the reader does on investments is his own personal decision and responsibility.

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Nice play R&R ! As usual, flawless victory.
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Analyst Jon Markman, of Markman Capital Insight, says JP Morgan Chase (the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds) will emerge from the bank collapse as the big winner, becoming a megabank.

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Nice play R&R ! As usual, flawless victory.

You really have to admire them--they have a goal:  run the world by controlling the financial system--and they play the game better than anyone else.

It's up to the people to take back the monetary system and put a stop to them, but the people are too ignorant to even see what is happening, and the corporate media wants to make sure they stay that way.

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Just found this in "None Dare Call It Conspiracy"

I hadn't thought of this before--how do you secure a loan made to a government?  This explains it:


For   centuries  there  has  been  big  money  to  be  made   by
international  bankers in the financing of governments and  kings.
Such operators,  however,  are faced with certain thorny problems.
We  know  that smaller banking operations  protect  themselves  by
taking collateral,  but what kind of collateral can you get from a
government or a king?. What if the banker comes to collect and the
king  says,  "Off  with his head!" The process through  which  one
collects  a debt from a government or a monarch is not  a  subject
taught in the  business schools of our universities,  and most  of
us - having never been in the business of lending money to kings -
have  not  given the problem much thought.  But there is  a  king-
financing business,  and to those who can ensure collection it  is
lucrative indeed.

  Economics professor Stuart Crane notes that there are two  means
used to collateralize loans to governments and kings.  Whenever  a
business  firm borrows big money its creditor obtains a  voice  in
management  to  protect  his  investment.   Like  a  business,  no
government can borrow big money unless willing to surrender to the
creditor  some measure of sovereignty  as  collateral.  Certainly,
international  bankers  who have loaned hundreds  of  billions  of
dollars  to  governments  around the  world  command  considerable
influence in the policies of such goverments.

  But  the  ultimate  advantage that the  creditor  has  over  the
government  or ruler is the threat that if the borrower steps  out
of  line  the banker can finance an enemy or rival  and  can  even
create an enemy by such means.
  Therefore,  if you want to stay in
the  king-financing  business,  it is wise to have an enemy  or  a
rival waiting in the wings to unseat every ruler to whom you lend.
If the king does'nt have an enemy, you must create one.

  Pre-eminent  in  playing  this  game was  the  famous  House  of
  (German for Redshield,  a name adopted by this  family
for  the  red  shield over the front door  of  their  house).  Its
founder,   Meyer  Amschel  Rothschild  (1743-1812)  of  Frankfurt,
Germany,  kept  one of his five sons at home to run the  Frankfurt
bank, and sent the others to Paris, London, Vienna and Naples. The
Rothschilds  became  incredibly  wealthy  during  the   nineteenth
century  by  financing  governments  to  war  with  one   another.
According to Professor Stuart Crane:

       "If  you will look back at every war in Europe  during
     the  Nineteenth Century,  you will see that they  always
     ended  with the establishment of a 'balance  of  power'.
     With every re-shuffling there was a balance of power  in
     a  new  grouping  around  the  House  of  Rothschild  in
     England,  France or Austria.  They grouped  nations,  so
     that  if any king stepped out of line a war would  break
     out  and  the  war would be decided  by  which  way  the
     financing  went.  Researching the debt positions of  the
     warring  nations  will usually indicate who  was  to  be

  In  describing the characteristics of the Rothschilds and  other
major international bankers,  Professor Quigly tells us that  they
remained  different from ordinary bankers in  several  ways:  they
were   cosmopolitan  and  international;   they  were   close   to
governments and were particularly concerned with government  debt,
including  foreign  government debts;  these bankers  came  to  be
called "international bankers". (Quigly,Tragedy and Hope, p.52)

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Well of course. This is how recessions work. It is impossible for EVERYONE to be hit by a recession. A recession =  big winners and big losers.

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The more I read about this, the more I realize what a dramatic development this is.

This is the final play by Rothschild for total control of America's financial system, something they've been working on ever since the country was founded.

Jefferson and our other founding fathers fought them continuously, calling them more dangerous than any military enemy.

Andrew Jackson dealt them a big setback when he closed their central bank here in 1836. 

Then Abraham Lincoln slapped them and issued greenbacks (for which they reportedly had him assasinated.)

They took firm control with the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and made their first big play with the depression.  But this depression is going to dwarf the depression of the 1930's unless they are able to take control of enough banks in the next few months to meet their goals.

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The mainstream media is reporting that Barclays is the lead contender to buy Lehman Brothers.   I guess Rothschild will use Barclays to buy Lehman Brothers so it doesn't look too early like JP Morgan Chase is buying everything.

Barlcays, JP Morgan Chase, they're both Rothschild, with intertwined ownership.

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What dirt do we have on Barclays that supports their tie to Rothschild?  This is the first time I am hearing that name...

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What dirt do we have on Barclays that supports their tie to Rothschild?  This is the first time I am hearing that name...

Marcus Ambrose Paul Agius (born 22 July 1946) is a British financier and businessman, currently the Chairman of Barclays. He has also been appointed the senior non-executive director on the BBC's new executive board.

He was educated at St George's College, Weybridge, and gained an MA at Trinity Hall, Cambridge in Mechanical Sciences and Economics. In addition, he has an MBA from Harvard Business School.

Agius has been a non-executive Director of Barclays since 1 September 2006, and succeeded Matthew Barrett as Chairman from 1 January 2007. He was previously chairman of the London branch of investment bank Lazard and non-executive chairman of BAA Limited.

He is married to Katherine (born 1949), daughter of Edmund de Rothschild of the Rothschild banking family of England, with two children, and has a close involvement with the Rothschild family estate, Exbury Gardens in Hampshire.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2008, 02:53:01 pm »
BBC news is reporting that Lehman are making preparations for insolvency protection.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2008, 03:34:27 pm »
More on the Rothschild-Barclays connection:

It would take a financial forensics expert to flesh out all the financial and ownership connections between Barclays and the Rothschilds. 

This is a good example of how difficult it is, considering how the ownership is hidden under different names.

Who would suspect Bank Brussels Lambert (BBL) of being a Rothschild bank.  It was founded by the Rothschilds in 1831 but named after the first manager, Samuel Lambert.  The Rothschilds are smart enough to not name all their holdings after themselves.

The connection was also later solidified by a Lambert-Rothschild marriage.

They believe in keeping things in the family.

In the mid-1960s, BB entered into special cooperation agreements with two of the world's largest banks, Barclays of London and Chase Manhattan in New York; and in 1971 it was asked to join the influential European banking syndicate, Société Financiére Europ&eacute-ne. In a world growing ever more complex and interdependent, BB has positioned itself to take advantage of the coming changes.

All branches of the Rothschilds forming agreements with themselves.

Belgium's second largest commercial bank, Bank Brussels Lambert (BBL) was created in 1975 by the merger of Banque de Bruxelles and Banque Lambert. Separately, each bank had survived more than a century of Belgium's often chaotic and war-torn history, and together they now face the more orderly but equally challenging unification of the European market and the intensified competition it will bring. An international orientation is nothing new for Belgian banks, however; situated at the economic crossroads of Europe, Belgium has of necessity always depended on foreign trade, for that reason developing a group of unusually cosmopolitan banks and bankers. Neither Banque de Bruxelles (BB) nor Banque Lamhert (BL), for example, was founded by Belgian natives, and throughout their history both were actively involved in the often-byzantine windings of international monetary exchange. From the funding of the rubber trade in Belgian Congo to the day when all of Europe uses one currency, BBL will have maintained a consistently internationalist approach to its task of providing both the Belgian government and private industry with a reliable source of capital.

The precursor to Banque Lambert was founded in Brussels shortly after Belgium won independence in 1831. At that time, the enterprising Rothschild family opened its first Belgian office, adding, within a few years, a second bank in Antwerp under the direction of Samuel Lambert, a Frenchman born in Lyon in 1811. When the head of the main Rothschild branch in Brussels died, Lambert was named as the Rothschild's manager for all of Belgium. Samuel was succeeded by his son Léon Lambert, who moved the bank offices to the elegant former residence of the Marquis d'Enneti&egave;res in 1883 and solidified his ties to the Rothschilds by marrying a woman from the French side of that family. Leon furthered his aristocratic aspirations by working closely with the king of Belgium, Léopold II, in financing the king's venture into what became the Belgian Congo. For his help in this colonial experiment, Lambert was made a baron, a title inherited by his son Henri when the latter assumed command of the bank after World War I. Baron Henri Lambert took advantage of the booming economy of the mid-1920s to split away from the Rothschilds and form his own company, Banque Lambert. His first customers were friends of the family, and the bank remained a selective and largely aristocratic institution during its first decades.

When the Nazis occupied Belgium, the Lamberts were forced to flee to England and the United States, and it was not until 1949 that a second Léon Lambert, Henri's son, took control of the bank which bore his name. With the 1953 acquisition of la Banque de Reports et de Depots, BL entered a phase of more aggressive expansion, especially into foreign trade and stock exchange funds. In 1972, a young associate manager at BL named Jacques Thierry steered the company to a merger with Brufina, the large industrial investment holding company formerly a part of Banque de Bruxelles. Thus introduced, the two banks quickly realized that they themselves could benefit from a merger, and in 1975 BBL was formed, with Thierry as president. Fourteen years later, Thierry remains chairman of the combined board of directors.

Banque Lambert's new partner had been in business since 1871. In that year, a young Venetian with the appropriately pan-European name of Jacques Errera-Oppenheim took advantage of Belgium's central location and relatively open economy by founding a large new bank in Brussels. With a group of German and Dutch financiers, he created the Banque de Bruxelles, capitalized with the unusually large sum of BFr50 million. The bank sold government bonds and lent to both private business and the government, but after a few profitable years it was caught in the slump of 1875-1876 and rapidly lost the confidence of its largely German investors. BB was forced to liquidate and reform itself as a smaller entity with the same name, after which it proceeded to grow quickly. BB was a "mixed" bank, active as both a depository for the savings of businesses and individuals and as an equity investor in the industrial sphere--since a large percentage of Belgian assets were still tied up in land, banks had to scramble for the relatively small amount of capital in circulating form.

After weathering the worldwide recession of 1890-1893, BB accelerated its investments in heavy industry, taking significant positions in the steel, coal, transportation, and electric power industries. Its total assets grew at a tremendous pace during the decades leading up to World War I--from BFr39 million in 1877 to BFr628 million just before the war. Many of these assets were tied up in foreign and colonial investments, since BB also took an active role in Belgium's imperial ambitions.

World War I required of BB a greatly increased involvement in the public sector, as it joined the other Belgian banks in trying to keep up with the payment of war indemnities and the floating of interprovincial loans. In a remarkable demonstration of the international nature of modern capital, in 1916 BB took over the Banque Internationale de Bruxelles, an institution owned by Germans, the power that then occupied Belgium. BB also helped to form the new Banque de Louvain, and in general came through the war in excellent financial condition, its assets nearly doubling to BFr1.2 billion.

In 1919, Maurice Despret became the new chairman of BB, bringing with him an ambitious plan for expansion. Despret first created a widespread network of retail branches throughout Belgium and in the Congo, gradually bringing these under the centralized administration of five geographical groups. The chairman also pursued further investments in heavy industry, setting up six new corporations that were later collected into two holding companies, Electrobel and Companie Belge pour l'industie. Finally, Despret tried to improve BB's overseas connections, working hard to organize the bank's holdings in the Congo as well as seeking new business in Europe and America. In the excellent business climate of the 1920s, these steps were extremely successful, and total assets and profits both rose rapidly despite a number of minor setbacks. At the close of the decade, BB's assets were nearly ten times what they had been at the end of the war, inspiring the confidence and over-speculation which came to an abrupt halt in October of 1929.

The Belgian economy muddled through the first few years of the Depression with some success, but by 1934 the country was nearing a general panic and the van Zeeland government was forced to take action. Since the public at large felt that banks were responsible for the Depression, van Zeeland and his finance minister, Max-Leo Gérard, set out to reform the country's antiquated banking system. One part of their reform was aimed at mixed banks like BB. To satisfy critics who suspected, quite reasonably, that companies owned by banks received undue consideration from their parents, it was declared that all banks would have to restrict themselves either to investment banking or to the deposits and loan business. On December 28, 1934, therefore, the Banque de Bruxelles' investment portfolio became Brufina, a new corporation, while its deposits-and-loan business was taken up by a newly formed Banque de Bruxelles. The companies are required by law to remain separate entitles, but over the years they have continued in close association.

Though these reforms may have helped the banking industry, they did little to solve the basic weakness of the economy, which continued unchanged until World War II erupted in 1939. As in the first war, Belgium spent years under foreign occupation, suffering the combined problems of massive deflation and German demands for equally massive war indemnity payments. BB tried to help the government make these payments, but the period up to and following liberation in 1944 was at best precarious. BB was aided during this bleak struggle by the leadership of former Finance Minister Gérard, who became the bank's chairman in 1939 and remained in that capacity until 1952. Gérard steered the bank through the difficulties of war and the equally challenging task of postwar monetary reform, when Belgium's currency was completely revamped and various other economic reforms were enacted.

Banking in Belgium had evolved into quite a different business than it had been before the reforms of 1934. These, and, to a lesser degree, reforms enacted immediately after the war, made banking into what a later chairman of BB would call "presque public"--almost a part of the public sector economy. Reacting to the chaos of the private sector during the Depression, the government decreed that all banks had to keep 65% of their deposits available for loans to the state, which was busily setting up nationalized industrial combines. This program, though stringent by American standards, was readily accepted by Gérard and BB as the Belgian economy accustomed itself to the idea of close cooperation between state and industry. As the repository of capital needed by both partners, the banks became part of a comprehensive planned economy rather than remaining independent agents. The mixed economy thus evolved seems to have worked well for all concerned, and not least the banks. To hold up its end of the bargain with government and industry, BB was forced to raise its capital sharply, from BFr200 million in 1945 to BFr700 million in 1951 and to BFr2.5 billion by 1964; profits have also increased, if not quite proportionately, at least in a continuous upward spiral.

Overseeing the postwar expansion was Louis Camu, chairman since Gérard's retirement in 1952. To take advantage of the greatly increased deposits made by a more prosperous public, Camu designed a program of expansion in both the national and overseas markets. Though prohibited by the reforms of 1934 from holding equity in other companies, BB furthered its expertise in the analysis and management of business affairs, seeking in that way to become more useful to its private borrowers. In 1953, BB introduced its first certified deposits, part of an effort to win a greater share of the retail-banking business across the country. BB has been in the vanguard of the electronic revolution in banking, offering its first automated teller machine as early as 1969 and continuing to upgrade its extensive computer facilities as a matter of course. On the international side, BB participated in the ever-expanding foreign investment and monetary exchange of the Belgian banks. In the mid-1960s, BB entered into special cooperation agreements with two of the world's largest banks, Barclays of London and Chase Manhattan in New York; and in 1971 it was asked to join the influential European banking syndicate, Société Financiére Europ&eacute-ne. In a world growing ever more complex and interdependent, BB has positioned itself to take advantage of the coming changes.

Most important, of course, was the 1975 merger with Banque Lambert. By combining the assets and experience of two of the country's leading banks, BBL strengthened its chances of surviving the gradual economic unification of Europe. With trade barriers gone, European bankers will soon be pressed by rivals from across the continent as well as by their traditional local competitors, and the battle for deposit-and-loan dollars will no doubt be prolonged and bitter. In anticipation of this struggle, Chairman Thierry has reorganized the bank according to five market segments--households, private investors, the Belgian corporate sector, multinationals, and institutional investors. In making this change, however, Thierry has emphasized that the bank is preparing not merely for the 1992 opening of the European market, important as that will be. The chairman is thinking mainly of the date, as yet unknown, yet all but certain, when all of Europe will convert to a single currency--an event which, if nothing else, will be certain to keep BBL and the rest of the European banking community more than a little busy.

Principal Subsidiaries: Locabel-Fininvest (50%); Banco di Roma (Belgio) (50%); Lanson Industries Plant II (90.1%); BBL Capital Management Corp.; Ciabel (99.8%); Sogerfin; Banque Bruxelles Lambert (Switzerland); Banque Louis-Dreyfus (France); BBL Australia; Williams de Broe Hill Ltd. (61.8%) (U.K.); Finanziaria ICCRI-BBL (50%) (Italy); Credit Europeen Luxembourg; BBL Finance Ireland; BBL Curran Mullens Ltd. (95%) (Australia).

Source: International Directory of Company Histories, Vol. 2. St. James Press, 1990.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2008, 03:44:04 pm »
BBC news is reporting that Lehman are making preparations for insolvency protection.

Yeah, bankruptcy would screw up the deal.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2008, 03:59:10 pm »
Looks like Paulson is afraid of the fallout if he lets the fed print money for Barclays to make the purchase.

The British bank withdrew because the U.S. government wouldn't provide financial guarantees, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reported that Bank of America and Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc. are in merger discussions. The newspaper cited people familiar with the matter.

The Journal said that Bank of America had considered buying Lehman, but when those talks failed to result in a deal, BofA turned its attention to Merrill, which is considered a better fit for the bank.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson remains strongly opposed to using government money in any deal aimed at resolving the Lehman crisis, a source familiar with his thinking reiterated on Sunday.

In a sign that bankers and regulators were preparing for the worst, an emergency session opened on Sunday afternoon between dealers with Lehman Brothers counterparty risk, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association said.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2008, 04:14:27 pm »
This is interesting--they bought back the French Rothschild banks that had been nationalized by President François Mitterrand after it was re-privatized in the late 1980's, but under Barclays:

Published: December 13, 1990
Barclays P.L.C., Britain's biggest banking company, agreed to buy L'Europeenne de Banque, a former Rothschild bank that specializes in services to the wealthy. Details of the offer for the private French bank, a subsidiary of Credit Commercial de France, were not disclosed because regulators were examining the deal, Barclays said.

The move would add weight to the Barclays presence in Continental Europe, which is considered a dynamic region for private banking but one that is expensive to enter. Reports valued the French bank at about $390 million. L'Europeenne de Banque was nationalized in 1982 and reprivatized in 1987 as part of Credit Commercial.


But fortune was to smile on the French Rothschilds again during the baron's lifetime. In 1984, his eldest son, David, and a cousin, Eric de Rothschild, finally received permission from the Socialist government to found a new bank, which they had to call Paris Orléans Banque because they were banned from using the family name.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 07:09:57 pm »
Now the bailout is to be extended to foreign banks in the US, just to make sure none of their banks are left out, lol.

Btw, the Rothschilds DID get Lehman Brothers through Barclays, just the part they wanted, including the building in New York, instead of the whole thing.

Searching through the corporatist media, I can find no criticism of the bailout.

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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2008, 06:18:03 pm »
Blast from the past...

I posted this short rant after it was obvious that international forces were manipulating the conversation concerning out primary process.  Well we did not get RP in yet, but we did bring a lot of awareness concerning, Rudy, Hillary, and the BS MSM:

MSNBC just stated...

"since we know that it will be Guiliani v. Clinton, do you think the winner will be decided by who picks the better VP running mate"

Hey British Royal Family/General Electric


You do not own us!

Remember 1776?

Get the f**k out of our sovereign land!

Stop using your petty bullshit psyops on us!

Hey Masters of War: "We can see through your lies!"

BTW - that was 10/5/2007.

Take a breath and realize how many more people are awake right now.  Many people are asking me what Ron Paul is saying about the financial situation.  A year ago they called him a crack pot.  Now they cannot help but wake up.
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Re: JP Morgan Chase (Rockefeller/Rothschild) big winners after collapse--MEGABANK
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 02:55:18 pm »
I totally agree that this might be the biggest financial takeover of our times by rockefeller-rothschild. Bear stearns, lehman brs, merril lynch, AIC, Fannie and freddie, indymac, washington mutual, etc...and it will get worse. Also note the European central bank president Jean Claude triche ties with rockefeller since the creation of the G30 group in the 70's  one of many money-intellectual-philantropist-conservation groups lead by the rockefellers. And i didn't want to believe the conspiracy theory but the conspiracy kept screwing us..