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Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« on: September 11, 2008, 12:20:44 am »
He's not a truther yet, but he's swinging for the fences like a clean up hitter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Rzt_WzrPQ
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2008, 12:26:57 am »
Actually he is. On today's show Alex said "Keith is definately a truther, and I've spoken to people about it...and i'll just leave it at that."
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2008, 12:33:16 am »
I wouldn't doubt if he knows all about it. His reaction to that disgusting RNC 9/11 propaganda film was spot on. My admiration for him would shoot even higher if he would come out with the whole thing.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2008, 12:38:46 am »
Actually he is. On today's show Alex said "Keith is definately a truther, and I've spoken to people about it...and i'll just leave it at that."

What?!? Really?  I listened to AJ today but missed the first hour.  I heard Alex say that Olbermann had been fired from covering political events but that's it.  Maybe I was multi-tasking too much and missed a juicy tid bit. 

Wow!  That explains a thing or three.  I'm glad to hear it.  I figured eventually that with his mind he would get around to it, and I can't reitterate how happy I am that it has happened sooner rather than later.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 12:40:03 am »
WOW!  Bravo Keith!  Bravo!!!
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 12:42:17 am »
i Knew Keith was a truther in private when he reported on Cheney's "Gulf of tonken" plan for IRAN. He has alot of swing at his network because of his viewers. He can only go so far, though. Unless he finally gets shitcanned and goes public.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 12:57:30 am »
i Knew Keith was a truther in private when he reported on Cheney's "Gulf of tonken" plan for IRAN. He has alot of swing at his network because of his viewers. He can only go so far, though. Unless he finally gets shitcanned and goes public.

As unfortunate as it would be for his current career, it would propel him into super star status as a journalist.  This country and our world in general needs a vibrant and talented fourth estate.  He has quite an opportunity here.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2008, 10:18:30 am »
As unfortunate as it would be for his current career, it would propel him into super star status as a journalist.  This country and our world in general needs a vibrant and talented fourth estate.  He has quite an opportunity here.

For anyone that missed it yesterday, or this posting late last night,... bump.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 10:25:58 am »
He's not a truther yet, but he's swinging for the fences like a clean up hitter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Rzt_WzrPQ

Ya, there's something about Keith...he doesn't like Bush and his thugs...you have to give him credit for A LOT of good things he's said on his show. He's pretty darn close to being a Truther...he needs to stop being a coward and speak up and find another job once they fire him.  ;D  Because that's what it comes down too...you work for MSM and speak up against the Government, you're pretty much out...isn't it funny how retarded these people think we are...ROTFLOL!!!!

Thanks for the link...Sasha.  ;)
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 10:34:15 am »
Ya, there's something about Keith...he doesn't like Bush and his thugs...you have to give him credit for A LOT of good things he's said on his show. He's pretty darn close to being a Truther...he needs to stop being a coward and speak up and find another job once they fire him.  ;D  Because that's what it comes down too...you work for MSM and speak up against the Government, you're pretty much out...isn't it funny how retarded these people think we are...ROTFLOL!!!!

Thanks for the link...Sasha.  ;)

Most of the mockingbirds of MSM do assume our stupidity and flaunt their masters' crimes, but like the overconfident tyrants of old, they will fail in the end.  Olbermann is jockeying around to the right side of things too, but as you say, has not yet made that leap of faith into full truth.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 10:45:44 am »
Most of the mockingbirds of MSM do assume our stupidity and flaunt their masters' crimes, but like the overconfident tyrants of old, they will fail in the end.  Olbermann is jockeying around to the right side of things too, but as you say, has not yet made that leap of faith into full truth.


BTW, well done Keith! That video deserves a sticky till these elections are through. The Republican party are trying to instill fear into us with this "TM {trademark} 911 propaganda they have been using since Sept 12, 2001. The 2004 RNC in NYC was an embarrassment and horrific to listen too...I expect more of the same with McCane and Co.  >:(

Well Done Keith!  8)
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 10:54:51 am »
WOW
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2008, 10:55:17 am »
Wow, this is very, very good.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2008, 10:57:51 am »
Excellent piece as a lot of Olbermann's pieces are  ;)
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2008, 10:59:23 am »
How does he still have a job? Doesn't MSM/white house look down on this kinda thing? Truth that is.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2008, 11:02:20 am »
How does he still have a job? Doesn't MSM/white house look down on this kinda thing? Truth that is.

That's a great point. I wonder how Lou Dobbs is still working for CNN too. I guess there is a limit to what they can talk about...you know they're on a short leash. If any of them even mentioned 911 Truth...that would be crossing the line.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2008, 12:10:55 pm »
Olberman and Dobbs have a large following. I'm pretty sure they could get away with anything they want and not end up forgotten voices. Just like Imus, hes getting paid and paid. They tried to get him again and hes still getting paid. Freedom of speech, FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

I think that now would be the best oportunistic time for all who know the truth to come forward and snoball it. If you wait till everyones saying it, then youre one of many pieces of ice, not one of few who held to something solid.

What a boost to listen to the live feed from DC. If ppl are reacting to it this well, its just a short matter of time before the whole thing is blown wide open.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2008, 12:14:48 pm »
I'm pretty sure they could get away with anything they want and not end up forgotten voices.

They would NEVER be able to speak 911 truth on MSM...they would get gagged quicker than you can say Palin is eye candy.

Don't forget who owns the MSM in this Country.  ;)
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2008, 12:22:11 pm »
Most of the mockingbirds of MSM do assume our stupidity and flaunt their masters' crimes, but like the overconfident tyrants of old, they will fail in the end.  Olbermann is jockeying around to the right side of things too, but as you say, has not yet made that leap of faith into full truth.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2008, 12:38:48 pm »
I like what he said, but in no way AT ALL does he seem to suggest that 911 was an inside job. If anything, he discusses Bin Laden and his terrorism and why McCain is not doing what he promised to do and catch him.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2008, 12:45:36 pm »
I generally like Olbermann, and very much appreciate him taking the Republicans to task for shamelessly exploiting 9/11 for political gain yet again.

However, it does frustrate me the way he gives the Democrats a virtual free pass on this issue, even though Obama uses the government's fairy tale account of 9/11 as an all-justifying excuse for his interventionist foreign policy agenda/domestic police state agenda:

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"When John McCain said we could just 'muddle through' in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources and more troops to finish the fight against the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11."


"After 9/11, our calling was to write a new chapter in the American story. To devise new strategies and build new alliances, to secure our homeland and safeguard our values, and to serve a just cause abroad. We were ready. Americans were united. Friends around the world stood shoulder to shoulder with us. We had the might and moral-suasion that was the legacy of generations of Americans. The tide of history seemed poised to turn, once again, toward hope....

"According to the National Intelligence Estimate, the threat to our homeland from al Qaeda is 'persistent and evolving.' Iraq is a training ground for terror, torn apart by civil war. Afghanistan is more violent than it has been since 2001. Al Qaeda has a sanctuary in Pakistan. Israel is besieged by emboldened enemies, talking openly of its destruction. Iran is now presenting the broadest strategic challenge to the United States in the Middle East in a generation. Groups affiliated with or inspired by al Qaeda operate worldwide. Six years after 9/11, we are again in the midst of a 'summer of threat,' with bin Ladin and many more terrorists determined to strike in the United States....

"Just because the President misrepresents our enemies does not mean we do not have them. The terrorists are at war with us. The threat is from violent extremists who are a small minority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims, but the threat is real. They distort Islam. They kill man, woman and child; Christian and Hindu, Jew and Muslim. They seek to create a repressive caliphate. To defeat this enemy, we must understand who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for....

"It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world's most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.

"The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."


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The only difference is that Obama exploits 9/11 in a more subtle, less blatant fashion.
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2008, 07:41:43 pm »
During the Republican 9/11 'tribute', after the film has finished one of the first people you see is Henry Kissinger. Does this man need an introduction? Any self-respecting adult should be aware of his infamy, right?

The media coverage is totally scripted, we know how the globalists like putting it in our faces. Meaning: there is a reason why Henry Kissinger

Then we have Zbigniew Brzezinski backing Barrack Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/24/AR2007082402127.html

We all know that both Kissinger and Brzezinski are total New World Order. But why is each backing that candidate? Are we seeing the next generation of presidential handlers, like Dick Cheney and George Bush Jr ; and George H.W. Bush and Regan? Where is the faction split within the elite power structure?

I believe Brzezinski thinks the neo-cons have caused too much of a ruckus, by trying to go for a hot martial law so quickly. They're aggressive and audacious. Perhaps they're turning into the fascist bloc in wwII, and Brzezinski is representing the Fabian Socialist bloc who believe in a more incremental approach.

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I'm trying to understand what this factional split means; Who is operating around it; are there clear delineations in allegiance between the surrounding networks of influence?

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2008, 08:04:54 pm »
Ok, I've been looking at which administrations Kissinger and Brzezinski served under in their respective posts.
Kissinger served under Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, both Republicans. Brzezinski served under Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.

In his 1979 memoir 'With No Apologies sen Barry Goldwater stated that: "When a new President comes on board, there is a great turnover in personnel but no change in policy. Example: During the Nixon years Henry Kissinger, CFR member and Nelson Rockefeller's protégé, was in charge of foreign policy. When Jimmy Carter was elected, Kissinger was replaced by Zbigniew Brzezinski, CFR member and David Rockefeller's protégé."
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/cfr_whitewash_commission.htm

Can anyone add anything more?

The Shadow Government is composed at its lower levels by organizations such as the CFR and other roundtable/think-tank groups. Are Kissinger and Brzezinski competing for a higher position in The Secret Government, beyond the false left-right paradigm, and into the real structure of the government?

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2008, 08:55:38 pm »
Way to go Keith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was waiting for him to scream  "I AM MAD AS HELL AND I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"


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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2008, 09:00:00 pm »
Olbermann is one of the good guys, no doubt. It's understandable why he can't just go supernova and come out saying 9/11 was an inside job, he'd lose his job very quickly, and I'm sure he's come close plenty of times.

It's just good that we have someone on the inside who can direct the mindless MSM watching sheep to the truth. Dobbs too, to a degree, but I'm still a little iffy about him.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2008, 09:59:02 am »
Ok, I've been looking at which administrations Kissinger and Brzezinski served under in their respective posts.
Kissinger served under Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, both Republicans. Brzezinski served under Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.

In his 1979 memoir 'With No Apologies sen Barry Goldwater stated that: "When a new President comes on board, there is a great turnover in personnel but no change in policy. Example: During the Nixon years Henry Kissinger, CFR member and Nelson Rockefeller's protégé, was in charge of foreign policy. When Jimmy Carter was elected, Kissinger was replaced by Zbigniew Brzezinski, CFR member and David Rockefeller's protégé."
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/cfr_whitewash_commission.htm

Can anyone add anything more?

The Shadow Government is composed at its lower levels by organizations such as the CFR and other roundtable/think-tank groups. Are Kissinger and Brzezinski competing for a higher position in The Secret Government, beyond the false left-right paradigm, and into the real structure of the government?

Yes they and many other narcissists are competing for the top dog positions.  Within a den of vipers unfed they will bite and eat eachother.  The ororborus is a better description than even the viper, for when such sociopaths have at last eliminated eachother, they will begin to eat themselves.  Not so strangely, it is a hermetic/pagan/gnostic symbol that represents unending life, mastry of death itself and constant renewal despite the natural cycle of life and death. 

Yoda says it as well as anyone, "Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealously. The shadow of greed, that is."  We are not supposed to live forever, though some of the vainest among us deny it.




Sociopath:

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

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Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)


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NOTE: In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity." By 1900 it was changed to "psychopathic personality." More recently it has been termed "antisocial personality disorder" in the DSM-III and DSM-IV. Some critics have complained that, in the attempt to rely only on 'objective' criteria, the DSM has broadened the concept to include too many individuals. The APD category includes people who commit illegal, immoral or self-serving acts for a variety of reasons and are not necessarily psychopaths.


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DSM-IV Definition

Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a marked inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules. Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or sociopaths.

Diagnostic Criteria (DSM-IV)

1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:
    A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
    B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
    C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
    D. Repeated assaults on others.
    E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
    F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
    G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.

2. At least eighteen years in age.

3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.

4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.
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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2008, 09:59:47 am »
Way to go Keith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was waiting for him to scream  "I AM MAD AS HELL AND I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"


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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2008, 11:20:44 am »
yes he would.

Is anyone writing MSNBC and asking why Olbermann has been banned from covering political events?  If MSNBC sees that there is a large enough following for the truth, maybe the money they can make from the ratings will overpower the money they are being paid to censor what is reported.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
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MSNBC says Olbermann, Matthews won't anchor
By DAVID BAUDER – 5 days ago
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NEW YORK (AP) — MSNBC said Sunday it is replacing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as co-anchors of political night coverage with David Gregory, and will use the two newsmen as commentators.

The change reflects tensions between the freewheeling, opinionated MSNBC and the impartial newsgatherers at NBC News. Throughout the primaries and summer, MSNBC argued that Olbermann and Matthews could serve as dispassionate anchors on political news nights and that viewers would accept them in that role, but things fell apart during the conventions.

Gregory, the veteran Washington hand, will anchor MSNBC's coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates and election night, said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. The change was first reported by The New York Times.

The tipping point appears to have come during the Republican convention when Olbermann, after the network aired a Sept. 11-themed video prepared by the Republicans, said that MSNBC should not have shown it.

MSNBC executives, who had publicly defended their anchors' roles while privately monitoring it throughout the political season, made the change over the weekend after discussions with Olbermann. Despite the controversy around him, Olbermann has been a hero with left-leaning viewers and keyed MSNBC's growth among coveted young viewers.

During her acceptance speech last week, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin talked about the "Washington elite" not accepting her qualifications for the job. Some delegates on the convention floor began chanting, "N-B-C, N-B-C."

Olbermann began to have difficulty keeping his opinions in check, or simply stopped trying.

He sarcastically dismissed GOP pundit Pat Buchanan on the air after Buchanan said the GOP had been enlivened by the entrance of a conservative Republican.

"Those reading US Weekly with the picture of her and her youngest daughter with the word `scandal' written across it won't be so happy," Olbermann said.

He expressed little sympathy at another point when GOP anger at rumors over the Internet about Palin were being discussed.

"We'll see if people feel sorry for unfounded rumors on the Internet," he said. "If that's the case, Sen. Obama's probably standing up and cheering and waiting for people to feel sorry for him."

Perhaps most embarrassing, Joe Scarborough was discussing positive developments in John McCain's campaign at one point when Olbermann was heard on an offstage microphone saying: "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?"

Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and host of MSNBC's "Morning Joe," got in another nasty on-air exchange with MSNBC reporter David Shuster, and Matthews snapped at Olbermann on-air when it appeared Olbermann was criticizing him for talking too much.

All the drama made MSNBC a punch line when top NBC anchor Brian Williams appeared on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" last week. "Is there no control?" Stewart asked him. "`Is it `Lord of the Flies?'"

A sheepish Williams said that every family has a dynamic of its own.

"But does MSNBC have to be the Lohans?" Stewart said.

Olbermann was in Denver during the Democratic national convention, but performed his co-hosting duties for the GOP convention in a New York studio. NBC President Steve Capus said the decision was not political, that Olbermann had been sent back to anchor coverage of Hurricane Gustav.

MSNBC's decision comes just before Olbermann's "Countdown" show is set to air, on Monday, Olbermann's interview with Barack Obama. That will put Olbermann in direct competition with his nemesis, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who interviewed Obama last week and is airing a portion of it Monday in the same 8 p.m. EDT time slot.
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Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews Fired
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2008, 11:02:47 am »
Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews Fired


MSNBC is replacing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as co-anchors of political night coverage, and will use the two newsmen as commentators, instead.

Anchoring future coverage will be veteran NBC Washington correspondent David Gregory.

The change reflects tensions between the freewheeling, opinionated MSNBC and the impartial newsgatherers at NBC News. Throughout the primaries and summer, MSNBC argued that Olbermann and Matthews could serve as dispassionate anchors on political news nights and that viewers would accept them in that role, but things fell apart during the conventions.

Gregory, the veteran Washington hand, will anchor MSNBC's coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates and election night, network spokesman Jeremy Gaines said Sunday. The change was first reported by The New York Times.

The tipping point appears to have come during the GOP convention when Olbermann criticized MSNBC for showing a Sept. 11-themed video prepared by the Republicans.

MSNBC executives, who had publicly defended their anchors' roles while privately monitoring them throughout the political season, made the change over the weekend after discussions with Olbermann. Despite the controversy around him, Olbermann has been a hero with left-leaning viewers and keyed MSNBC's growth among coveted young viewers.

During her acceptance speech last week, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin talked about the "Washington elite" not accepting her qualifications for the job. Some delegates on the convention floor began chanting, "N-B-C, N-B-C."

Olbermann began to have difficulty keeping his opinions in check, or simply stopped trying.

He sarcastically dismissed GOP pundit Pat Buchanan on the air after Buchanan said the Republicans had been enlivened by the entrance of a conservative Republican.

"Those reading US Weekly with the picture of her and her youngest daughter with the word 'scandal' written across it won't be so happy," Olbermann said.

He expressed little sympathy at another point when GOP anger at rumors over the Internet about Palin were being discussed.

"We'll see if people feel sorry for unfounded rumors on the Internet," he said. "If that's the case, Senator Obama's probably standing up and cheering and waiting for people to feel sorry for him."

Perhaps most embarrassing, Joe Scarborough was discussing positive developments in John McCain's campaign at one point when Olbermann was heard on an offstage microphone saying: "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?"

Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and host of MSNBC's "Morning Joe," got in another nasty on-air exchange with MSNBC reporter David Shuster, and Matthews snapped at Olbermann on-air when it appeared Olbermann was criticizing him for talking too much.

All the drama made MSNBC a punch line when top NBC anchor Brian Williams appeared on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" last week. "Is there no control?" Stewart asked him. "'Is it 'Lord of the Flies?"'

A sheepish Williams said that every family has a dynamic of its own.

"But does MSNBC have to be the Lohans?" Stewart said.

Olbermann was in Denver during the Democratic national convention, but performed his co-hosting duties for the GOP convention in a New York studio. NBC President Steve Capus said the decision was not political, that Olbermann had been sent back to anchor coverage of Hurricane Gustav.

MSNBC's decision comes just before Olbermann's "Countdown" show is set to air, on Monday, his interview with Barack Obama. That will put Olbermann in direct competition with his nemesis, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who interviewed Obama last week and is airing a portion of it Monday in the same 8 p.m. EDT time slot.
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2008, 11:09:43 am »
YouTube has yanked all of MSNBC's origional videos of the spat between Scarborough and Olbermann that I can find, however, here is some reflective coverage of Faux Snooze throwing a kind of party for Olbermann and Matthews canning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKYLU6F8mtA
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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2008, 11:12:45 am »
Olbermann Fired! O' Reilly and FOX Have Party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNyUFCErks
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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2008, 11:22:36 am »
The Commentary That Got Olbermann Fired

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4jUTS4Y3g0
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Re: Matthews and Olbermann fired
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2008, 11:25:09 am »
The Commentary That Got Olbermann Fired

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4jUTS4Y3g0

MSNBC Takes Incendiary Hosts From Anchor Seat
By BRIAN STELTER
Published: September 7, 2008


MSNBC tried a bold experiment this year by putting two politically incendiary hosts, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, in the anchor chair to lead the cable news channel’s coverage of the election.


Keith Olbermann, left, and Joe Scarborough. Mr. Olbermann’s liberal show is MSNBC’s most successful.

That experiment appears to be over.

After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.

The change — which comes in the home stretch of the long election cycle — is a direct result of tensions associated with the channel’s perceived shift to the political left.

“The most disappointing shift is to see the partisan attitude move from prime time into what’s supposed to be straight news programming,” said Davidson Goldin, formerly the editorial director of MSNBC and a co-founder of the reputation management firm DolceGoldin.

Executives at the channel’s parent company, NBC Universal, had high hopes for MSNBC’s coverage of the political conventions. Instead, the coverage frequently descended into on-air squabbles between the anchors, embarrassing some workers at NBC’s news division, and quite possibly alienating viewers. Although MSNBC nearly doubled its total audience compared with the 2004 conventions, its competitive position did not improve, as it remained in last place among the broadcast and cable news networks. In prime time, the channel averaged 2.2 million viewers during the Democratic convention and 1.7 million viewers during the Republican convention.

The success of the Fox News Channel in the past decade along with the growth of political blogs have convinced many media companies that provocative commentary attracts viewers and lures Web browsers more than straight news delivered dispassionately.

“In a rapidly changing media environment, this is the great philosophical debate,” Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, said in a telephone interview Saturday. Fighting the ratings game, he added, “the bottom line is that we’re experiencing incredible success.”

But as the past two weeks have shown, that success has a downside. When the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin lamented media bias during her speech, attendees of the Republican convention loudly chanted “NBC.”

In interviews, 10 current and former staff members said that long-simmering tensions between MSNBC and NBC reached a boiling point during the conventions. “MSNBC is behaving like a heroin addict,” one senior staff member observed. “They’re living from fix to fix and swearing they’ll go into rehab the next week.”

The employee, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity because the network does not permit its people to speak to the media without authorization. (The New York Times and NBC News have a content-sharing arrangement exclusively for political coverage.)

Mr. Olbermann, a 49-year-old former sportscaster, has become the face of the more aggressive MSNBC, and the lightning rod for much of the criticism. His program “Countdown,” now a liberal institution, was created by Mr. Olbermann in 2003 but it found its voice in his gnawing dissent regarding the Bush administration, often in the form of “special comment” segments.

As Mr. Olbermann raised his voice, his ratings rose as well, and he now reaches more than one million viewers a night, a higher television rating than any other show in the troubled 12-year history of the network. As a result, his identity largely defines MSNBC. “They have banked the entirety of the network on Keith Olbermann,” one employee said.

In January, Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews, the host of “Hardball,” began co-anchoring primary night coverage, drawing an audience that enjoyed the pair’s “SportsCenter”-style show. While some critics argued that the assignment was akin to having the Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly anchor on election night — something that has never happened — MSNBC insisted that Mr. Olbermann knew the difference between news and commentary.

But in the past two weeks, that line has been blurred. On the final night of the Republican convention, after MSNBC televised the party’s video “tribute to the victims of 9/11,” including graphic footage of the World Trade Center attacks, Mr. Olbermann abruptly took off his journalistic hat.

“I’m sorry, it’s necessary to say this,” he began. After saying that the video had exploited the memories of the dead, he directly apologized to viewers who were offended. Then, sounding like a network executive, he said it was “probably not appropriate to be shown.”

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2008, 11:47:04 am »
Keith Olbermann has been doing yeoman's work of late and by one source close to his friends might even qualify as a 9/11 truther.  His Special Commentaries have been a source of pain for the criminal White House and with his words he has revealed more than just a few of the criminal enterprises that keep the NeoCon's war against the world in full motion.

Here's to you Keith!  You have been one of the very few main stream talking heads that's willing to speek your mind and even if was just the ratings that you garner that's forced the General Electric/NBC network to keep giving you the spot light, its your words and the forceful facts that they contain that will matter in the end. 

There is a war on right now, and you have chosen the side of truth.  Victory is eminanent, for as Ghandi said, "When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - Think of it, ALWAYS."

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2008, 12:55:27 pm »
wow, that was a scathing and on-target rant, good for you keith, good for you sir.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2008, 05:33:54 pm »
There's still no confirmation or proof he wont have Countodown active.

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Re: Keith Olbermann Special Comment on 9/11
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2008, 07:01:27 pm »
They would NEVER be able to speak 911 truth on MSM...they would get gagged quicker than you can say Palin is eye candy.

Don't forget who owns the MSM in this Country.  ;)

thats true. maybe their just doing a little to APPEAR as they are on the correct side and keep the knowledge supresssed?

who knows. I dont watch much mianstream news at all. Ive only seen olberman on youtube clips actually. Ive seen dobbs in the past, but since i am conservative, never listned to him either and mainly watch the youtubes that are good for letting ppl know about the nafta super hwy. I just know that they are big names and meant that they could probably get away with one broadcast and get another show somewhere else having the following that they have.

Iif they were to do that with 9/11 truths, it SURE would bring a few more ppl to the truth, i hope? It would definately make a LOT of noise. Specially if they were fired. that bring more light to the entire idea.

but, i can see them not doing that for the fact of not being fired.