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Russia will televise 911 Truth on Sept 11 AND Debate on Friday
« on: September 09, 2008, 11:56:34 pm »
RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
 
Tue Sep 9, 2008 10:18 am (PDT)

Russian television is to give prime time airing to a  9/11 film on the eve of this week's seventh anniversary of the attacks in New York and DC.
 The public showing of Italian Truth film could lead to international tribunal. 

Italian film-maker Giulietto Chiesa, who was in Berlin for a screening
of his documentary ("ZERO") which questions the official US version
of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, has called for an international tribunal to
probe events.
Chiesa was in Berlin at the weekend for a screening of his film which
features, among others, novelist Gore Vidal and playwright Dario Fo as
well as retired American professor of philosophy David Ray Griffin who
advances conspiracy theories that contradict mainstream accounts of
events of 11 September, 2001.
Federal Aviation Administration controllers, US Air Force pilots,
military commanders and physicists also appear in the critical
documentary, which the director hopes will create "political
awareness"
of the "faulty" official investigation into the events by the 9/11
Commission.
"Some of the individuals appearing in the film are former FBI and CIA
agents, people who have in a sense taken a very big risk in speaking
out. I am very grateful to them because they have done a big job," said
Chiesa.
"The film would not have been possible without them," he said, adding
that ZERO had been seen in France and Belgium at individual screenings,
and by more than 20,000 people in Italy. But the film so far has not
gained a distributor in Europe.
In an interview with German news agency dpa, Chiesa, a European
parliamentary deputy, said Russian television is to give prime time
airing to his film on the eve of this week's seventh anniversary of the
attacks in New York and Washington.
"That means that some 30 million Russian citizens will learn the truth
about what happened, which is a very big result for me."

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3626100,00.html



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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2008, 11:59:21 pm »
They should contact investigators inthe U.S. and show our films. I'msure they would be more accurate.

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 12:03:24 am »
Yes, I agree. Why don't they show Terrorstorm, Fabled Enemies, Truth Rising, Endgame or Loose Change?

It's almost as if they keep throwing out crumbs to ensure they don't lose all the audience.

It's far better than The Path to 9/11 or Flight 93 anyway.  ::)
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 12:05:57 am »
yeah, I saw this earlier. It'll only accellerate Cheney's push towards a confrontation with Russia. Fixed News and the MSM will have a field day with this, if its true! Should be interesting.

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 12:09:28 am »
this is HUGE

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 12:12:00 am »
Does anyone know if AJ's films have Russian subtitles?

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 12:13:36 am »
Cheney is a puppet for Kissinger, just as bush is a  puppet for Cheney. Cheney doesn't bark unless he's commanded to do so. If Russia succesfully wakes its population up to false flag terrorism they are proving they are Anti-NWO because that is the NWO's favorite trick. It will also educate the Russian population as to why people in our country have been brainwashed and fooled, perhaps inducing some empathy for us citizens, and hatred for our government and the elites that control it.

It is interesting that it's an Italian Film. A country that is a member of the EU and under Britians sphere of influence. It will further its credibility world wide. Looks like the Russians just out manuevered the Neo-Cons using Statescraft once again.. what is that like 5 times in a month?

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 12:15:27 am »
Has anyone seen that Zero film?
David Ray Griffin is a "good" guy, I'm just worried they'd insert some no-plane-ish nonsense to take away the credibility...

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 12:19:04 am »
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2008, 12:24:12 am »
Brocke's got a copy of it, we should ask him.  I downloaded it from a Torrent site a few months ago and got bored while I was watching it, as it doesn't compare to Alex's films in so far as the information content is concerned, so I gave the original to him when he asked for a copy of it.

It's being shown on NZ TV, on a pay-for channel also, tomorrow
 Thur Sept 11: 7.30 - 9.30pm: Investigation Zero 9/11: "investigates the
 thesis that the official version of 9/11 is not true"

And here is the trailer at YouTube:
Zero: An Investigation into 9/11 (Trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crexHTut23c
ZERO has one central thesis - that the official version of events surrounding the attacks on 9/11 can not be true. This brand new feature documentary, featuring presentations from intellectual heavyweights, Gore Vidal and Nobel Prize Winner, Dario Fo, explores the latest scientific evidence and reveals dramatic new witness testimony, directly conflicting with the US Government's account. Dubbed "the bomb of the Rome Film Festival" in 2007, Zero is the first 9/11 film to bridge the mainstream gap. Decision makers are starting to sit up and listen to its message, including the European Parliament where the film screened in February 2008.
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 12:37:55 am »
I just uploaded my response on the NIST briefing of Mr Sunder, about the collapse of WTC 7:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7987396581353364996

Watch it please. it is only 28 minutes.
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2008, 12:44:25 am »
I just uploaded my response on the NIST briefing of Mr Sunder, about the collapse of WTC 7:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7987396581353364996

Watch it please. it is only 28 minutes.
Thank-you. Please post this on the 9/11 board, here
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=18.0
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2008, 12:46:18 am »
Yes, that came to my mind too...thanks...already done.
A bit video link redundancy is perhaps not so bad...
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2008, 12:54:47 am »
Yes, that came to my mind too...thanks...already done.
A bit video link redundancy is perhaps not so bad...

No, it's not given that the mainstream media is so replete with bullshit. I'm downloading it now thank-you. As this thread is about Zero on Russian TV, it's best to put comments about it in the 9/11 section, instead of here, so people can find them.
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2008, 01:13:00 am »
Yes you are right, but at the root of the forum, where the most recent posts are visible, this subject had those nice CAPITAL LETTERS.
It stood out, so I posted the video there in the first place.

Of course, this video I mean:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7987396581353364996
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2008, 01:14:35 am »
Whether the movie isn't up to par with some of the others it is still a net positive. Most of the Russian public is aware/open to this sort of info anyway. The world must work its way to the truth anyway possible.
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RE: Major 911 Debate on RUSSIAN TV - Tarpley
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2008, 07:48:10 am »

Ivashov, Chiesa, Meyssan,
Russian Experts To Debate
9-11 On Russian TV Friday

By Webster G. Tarpley
9-9-8
 

WASHINGTON, DC -- Thierry Meyssan reports from Moscow that he and other leading international 9/11 truth experts have completed taping a television debate which will be telecast on the first national program of Russian state television this coming Friday, September 12. This no-holds barred, free-wheeling debate, featuring strongly divergent opinions about what really happened on and about September 11, 2001, will be shown in conjunction with the documentary film Zero, produced and directed by Chiesa and Franco Fracassi of Telemaco Productions in Rome. Russians are thus about to receive an unprecedented evening of 9/11 truth.

 

The telecast will go out in the middle of prime time. Among the participants, General Leonid Ivashov was the commander of the Russian armed forces on September 11, 2001, and has been a leading critic of the US official version. A leading strategic thinker for his country, Ivashov is currently a fellow of the Strategic Culture Foundation (fondsk.ru) in Moscow. Giulietto Chiesa is a member of the European Parliament in Brussels, representing the region around Asti in northwest Italy. Chiesa has been the leading spokesman for 9/11 truth issues in the European Parliament, and has been the prime mover behind the documentary film Zero, as well as the collection of essays by the same name which has also attracted much attention in Italy since being published in the late summer of 2007. Thierry Meyssan, the founder and leader of the Voltaire Network in Paris, was one of the first critics of the US official story about 9/11. He is the author of several books, including 9/11: The Big Lie, and Pentagate. He also organized the Axis for Peace conference in Brussels in November 2005.

 

Among almost a dozen Russian participants in the debate that will be televised Friday evening in Moscow, one of the most compelling speakers was a Russian cosmonaut who observed the 9/11 events from his post on the International Space Station in earth orbit. This cosmonaut recounts in the telecast that, as he watched the immense plume of smoke spread from New York out over the Atlantic, he took a large number of photos and films which were sent automatically to both Houston and Moscow. "We have been studying these images very, very, carefully," commented the cosmonaut pointedly, "and we have seen some highly interesting things."

 

The host for the debate stressed that this landmark telecast did not imply that the Kremlin administration of President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin was officially espousing any particular point of view concerning 9/11, but rather reflected a commitment to free and open debate. Nevertheless, observers in the Russian capital sense a far-reaching change of mood by the Russian government in the wake of the August 7-8 genocidal attack on South Ossetia by the Georgian dictator and US satellite Saakashvili. The Russians, according to this view, are through with doing favors for the US, especially in regard to Washington's official myths about 9/11 and the war on terror, and this telecast will deliver that message in a clear and unmistakable way.

 

Webster G. Tarpley is the author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA. His current book is Obama ­ The Postmodern Coup: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate. These are available on amazon.com. His next book, entitled Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, will be available on lulu.com starting September 10.

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Re: RE: Major 911 Debate on RUSSIAN TV - Tarpley
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2008, 07:52:54 am »

Ivashov, Chiesa, Meyssan,
Russian Experts To Debate
9-11 On Russian TV Friday

By Webster G. Tarpley
9-9-8
 

WASHINGTON, DC -- Thierry Meyssan reports from Moscow that he and other leading international 9/11 truth experts have completed taping a television debate which will be telecast on the first national program of Russian state television this coming Friday, September 12. This no-holds barred, free-wheeling debate, featuring strongly divergent opinions about what really happened on and about September 11, 2001, will be shown in conjunction with the documentary film Zero, produced and directed by Chiesa and Franco Fracassi of Telemaco Productions in Rome. Russians are thus about to receive an unprecedented evening of 9/11 truth.

 

The telecast will go out in the middle of prime time. Among the participants, General Leonid Ivashov was the commander of the Russian armed forces on September 11, 2001, and has been a leading critic of the US official version. A leading strategic thinker for his country, Ivashov is currently a fellow of the Strategic Culture Foundation (fondsk.ru) in Moscow. Giulietto Chiesa is a member of the European Parliament in Brussels, representing the region around Asti in northwest Italy. Chiesa has been the leading spokesman for 9/11 truth issues in the European Parliament, and has been the prime mover behind the documentary film Zero, as well as the collection of essays by the same name which has also attracted much attention in Italy since being published in the late summer of 2007. Thierry Meyssan, the founder and leader of the Voltaire Network in Paris, was one of the first critics of the US official story about 9/11. He is the author of several books, including 9/11: The Big Lie, and Pentagate. He also organized the Axis for Peace conference in Brussels in November 2005.

 

Among almost a dozen Russian participants in the debate that will be televised Friday evening in Moscow, one of the most compelling speakers was a Russian cosmonaut who observed the 9/11 events from his post on the International Space Station in earth orbit. This cosmonaut recounts in the telecast that, as he watched the immense plume of smoke spread from New York out over the Atlantic, he took a large number of photos and films which were sent automatically to both Houston and Moscow. "We have been studying these images very, very, carefully," commented the cosmonaut pointedly, "and we have seen some highly interesting things."

 

The host for the debate stressed that this landmark telecast did not imply that the Kremlin administration of President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin was officially espousing any particular point of view concerning 9/11, but rather reflected a commitment to free and open debate. Nevertheless, observers in the Russian capital sense a far-reaching change of mood by the Russian government in the wake of the August 7-8 genocidal attack on South Ossetia by the Georgian dictator and US satellite Saakashvili. The Russians, according to this view, are through with doing favors for the US, especially in regard to Washington's official myths about 9/11 and the war on terror, and this telecast will deliver that message in a clear and unmistakable way.

 

Webster G. Tarpley is the author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA. His current book is Obama ­ The Postmodern Coup: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate. These are available on amazon.com. His next book, entitled Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, will be available on lulu.com starting September 10.

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2008, 08:08:29 am »
For anyone who understands Italian it's available on Torrent site (was posted 110 days ago)

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2008, 08:26:29 am »
I just finished watching ZERO AN INVESTIGATION INTO 9-11.

It is a very good film. An excellent introduction to the truth. It is an Italian production and was dubbed into English.

I think that if it is broadcast with the same content that I saw and heard it will have a great impact and definitely wake up some Russians. My sister was married to a Russian man and they tend to be very pragmatic and cynical so I think they will be open to the facts.

I think it is going to have a positive effect for the movement (US MSM spin not withstanding).

Here are the people who appeared in it.

EXPERTS,  WITNESSES & PERSONALITIES
Stephen Jones
David Ray Griffin
Kevin Ryan
Paolo Marini
Philip Berg
Dario Fo
Maj. General Albert Stubblebine
Robin Hordon
John Judge
Gore Vidal
Robert Bowman
Major Giuseppe Guardabasso
Capt. Morris Ghiadoni
Lella Costa
Moni Ovadia
Giulietto Chiesa
Ralph Shoenman
Marina Montesanto
Webster Griffin Tarpley
Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed
Jurgen Elsaesser
Sibel Edmonds
William Rodriguez
Les Jamison
Capt. Russ Wittemberg
Barbara Honegger
Amanda Keller
Robert McIlvaine
Louie Cacchioli


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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2008, 08:36:43 am »
I just finished watching ZERO AN INVESTIGATION INTO 9-11.

It is a very good film. An excellent introduction to the truth. It is an Italian production and was dubbed into English.

I think that if it is broadcast with the same content that I saw and heard it will have a great impact and definitely wake up some Russians. My sister was married to a Russian man and they tend to be very pragmatic and cynical so I think they will be open to the facts.

I think it is going to have a positive effect for the movement (US MSM spin not withstanding).

Here are the people who appeared in it.

EXPERTS,  WITNESSES & PERSONALITIES
Stephen Jones
David Ray Griffin
Kevin Ryan
Paolo Marini
Philip Berg
Dario Fo
Maj. General Albert Stubblebine
Robin Hordon
John Judge
Gore Vidal
Robert Bowman
Major Giuseppe Guardabasso
Capt. Morris Ghiadoni
Lella Costa
Moni Ovadia
Giulietto Chiesa
Ralph Shoenman
Marina Montesanto
Webster Griffin Tarpley
Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed
Jurgen Elsaesser
Sibel Edmonds
William Rodriguez
Les Jamison
Capt. Russ Wittemberg
Barbara Honegger
Amanda Keller
Robert McIlvaine
Louie Cacchioli

The UK Guardian is scared to death of this film, check out their 'review'.  The only time these scumbuckets review something with such disinfo ("everything that we were told about that awful day, every syllable, every dot, every comma, every jot, every tittle, was a great big lie" - total disinfo to stop people from using logical reasoning and assess for themselves) is when they are scared to death that people will actually see it.

Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11
(Cert 12A)
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/aug/22/documentary.conspiracy
 Peter Bradshaw
The Guardian, Friday August 22 2008

Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11
Release: 2007
Country: Italy
Cert (UK): 12A
Runtime: 104 mins
Directors: Francesco Tre, Franco Fracassi
Cast: Dario Fo, Giulietta Chiesa, Gore Vidal


If Mr Bush and Mr Blair are still musing over their "legacy", well, here it is - the 9/11 "truth" movement, of which this film, from Italian directors Franco Farcassi and Francesco Trento, is the latest example. It represents a sizeable body of opinion, holding that everything that we were told about that awful day, every syllable, every dot, every comma, every jot, every tittle, was a great big lie. Our rulers brought this fatuous exercise in silly conspiracy theorism on themselves and us, having foisted the definite untruth of WMD on the world. After all, why should we believe anything proclaimed by the governments of Washington and London which endorsed that mendacity?

Silly, however, is certainly what the 9/11 theories are. To recap: this movie, like an earlier essay called Loose Change, promotes the belief not merely that 9/11 was a bogus pretext for war, but that it was a bogus event itself, faked, stage-managed and orchestrated by the powers that be. The twin towers were not brought down by kamikaze terrorists, but demolished by covert military-grade explosives, smuggled into the building, of which molten metal in the ashy ruins is the residual evidence. The crashing planes were a diversionary stunt. The so-called terrorists were CIA-mujahideen stooges, who may or may not have been on board, but in any case were ordered to establish their existence on dozens of security cameras to establish an alibi. The plane that crashed into the Pentagon must have been a missile, because the hole isn't big enough for anything else.

And so on. These theories are rehearsed by Dario Fo, with an insufferably smug grin inappropriate for discussing an event whose casualties he presumably does not dispute, and who is pointedly described as a "Nobel prizewinner" - though his prize is for literature, not engineering.

As it happens, the dissident theories about the towers' downfall have already been extensively answered by engineers at least as qualified as the ones contributing here. Yes, the Towers' designers complain that their buildings should have withstood plane crashes - but then, they would, wouldn't they? They don't want to be blamed. Or sued. Farcassi and Trento don't get into the cui bono aspect of it all, presumably to avoid accusations of sensationalism or conspiracy theorism. But without this kind of reasoning, their film is meaningless. And incidentally, they don't mention the fourth plane, the one that crashed into a field - so does that mean that there were terrorists on that one?

However, daft as it all is, I must now admit something. The film-makers do raise one legitimate question. It concerns WTC-7, the third tower that collapsed that day - still a little-known event - seven hours after the first two, apparently as a result of fire and debris damage. But it had not been struck by a plane. How exactly could that fall down? Well, that too is part of the back-and-forth slanging match between "truthers" and the rest. Perhaps if the Bush government hadn't been so secretive, so belligerent and dishonest, then this sort of loopiness wouldn't have found such fertile soil to grow.
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2008, 08:39:00 am »
Ladies and gentlemen as much as I would love to see Bush get served cold justice, having a "International Tribunal" to do the job would be a very bad idea. I have said this before here on PP, we would want justice being served from our courts. Because once we have the U.N. (they run the world courts)run this tribunal, we will never be able to get rid of them. We cannot open that "Pandora Box", because the cure they will be offering for the neo-cons will not help. Bush has to be brought forth by a United States court or even a War Tribunal by the armed forces. We have to show all of the U.S. citizens, what has happen during this administration. This has to come from an American prosecutor, not a guy from Europe, Asia, or some s**thole 3rd world country.      
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2008, 08:43:43 am »
Ladies and gentlemen as much as I would love to see Bush get served cold justice, having a "International Tribunal" to do the job would be a very bad idea. I have said this before here on PP, we would want justice being served from our courts. Because once we have the U.N. (they run the world courts)run this tribunal, we will never be able to get rid of them. We cannot open that "Pandora Box", because the cure they will be offering for the neo-cons will not help. Bush has to be brought forth by a United States court or even a War Tribunal by the armed forces. We have to show all of the U.S. citizens, what has happen during this administration. This has to come from an American prosecutor, not a guy from Europe, Asia, or some s**thole 3rd world country.      

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why everyone needs to make sure all Americans are informed ASAP!

This is our fight, we need to deal with our shit, not the communist UN or other obvious NWO threats.

Thanks for keeping us focused.

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2008, 08:44:18 am »
Ladies and gentlemen as much as I would love to see Bush get served cold justice, having a "International Tribunal" to do the job would be a very bad idea. I have said this before here on PP, we would want justice being served from our courts. Because once we have the U.N. (they run the world courts)run this tribunal, we will never be able to get rid of them. We cannot open that "Pandora Box", because the cure they will be offering for the neo-cons will not help. Bush has to be brought forth by a United States court or even a War Tribunal by the armed forces. We have to show all of the U.S. citizens, what has happen during this administration. This has to come from an American prosecutor, not a guy from Europe, Asia, or some s**thole 3rd world country.      

As much as I agree with you on this, it would be hard to convince the world that this is the way to go.  Bush and Co have commited international crimes against humanity and alot of people/countries would not want to risk it being muffed up by our corrupt system.  Bottom line is, they don't trust us now... why would they trust us with the trial?

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2008, 01:54:39 pm »
As much as I agree with you on this, it would be hard to convince the world that this is the way to go.  Bush and Co have commited international crimes against humanity and alot of people/countries would not want to risk it being muffed up by our corrupt system.  Bottom line is, they don't trust us now... why would they trust us with the trial?

They don't trust us?

Who is they and who is us?

The people of other countries trust the citizens of the US and vice versa.

The people of other countries (and over 80% of the people in the US) do not trust the elite of the US.

The people of the US (and a majority of people internationally) do not trust the international elite (rothschild/queen beatrice/UN/EU/etc.)

What John Gault is pointing out (I believe) is that we should be aware that the international elite may be using 9/11 truth to give NWO more power rather than less power.  We should all be aware of this.

If we do not handle this shit at home, it will get worse not better.
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2008, 08:56:51 am »
The more foreign countries spread  911 TRUTH the better it is....

Lets help and spread the word !

The criminals have to face court and spend the rest of their lives in jail !!

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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2008, 09:00:07 am »
this is HUGE

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2008, 09:06:37 am »
They don't trust us?

Who is they and who is us?

The people of other countries trust the citizens of the US and vice versa.

The people of other countries (and over 80% of the people in the US) do not trust the elite of the US.

The people of the US (and a majority of people internationally) do not trust the international elite (rothschild/queen beatrice/UN/EU/etc.)

What John Gault is pointing out (I believe) is that we should be aware that the international elite may be using 9/11 truth to give NWO more power rather than less power.  We should all be aware of this.

If we do not handle this shit at home, it will get worse not better.

I get exactly what John is saying and back it 100%.

"They" are the middle eastern countries that have been plagued with our presence in their lands.  You think they trust our court system?  Hell no!  They realize that the American people are being manipulated but they also know that the coruption goes much deeper than Bush.  The trial/investigation should be held by the Americans however convincing these countries that we will take care of our own won't be easy... that is my point here.  Can the government put the government on trial?  Seems like a conflict of intrest... kind of how the government audits itself. 

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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2008, 09:21:31 am »
I get exactly what John is saying and back it 100%.

"They" are the middle eastern countries that have been plagued with our presence in their lands.  You think they trust our court system?  Hell no!  They realize that the American people are being manipulated but they also know that the coruption goes much deeper than Bush.  The trial/investigation should be held by the Americans however convincing these countries that we will take care of our own won't be easy... that is my point here.  Can the government put the government on trial?  Seems like a conflict of intrest... kind of how the government audits itself. 

Thanks for the response.

In my opinion, the "they" you are referring to might also need clarification.  Some elites within their US sponsored countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, etc.) have played a part in 9/11.  It was the Bin Laden group (Saudi Arabia) that built the al-qaeda training facilities in Afgahnistan with US money ($300 million).  It is Dubai who helped facilitate logistical and financial support to the reported hijackers. It is Pakistan who wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta days before 9/11/2001.  It is Pakistan who uses the ISI in direct connection with the Taliban and Al Qaeda (reason why Daniel Perle and Pat Tillman were executed).

In addition, many people living within these countries do not trust their own dictatorial regimes and are aware that the American people are not causing the insanity in the Middle East but that a few powerful international elite are.
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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2008, 09:24:37 am »
Thanks for the response.

In my opinion, the "they" you are referring to might also need clarification.  Some elites within their US sponsored countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, etc.) have played a part in 9/11.  It was the Bin Laden group (Saudi Arabia) that built the al-qaeda training facilities in Afgahnistan with US money ($300 million).  It is Dubai who helped facilitate logistical and financial support to the reported hijackers. It is Pakistan who wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta days before 9/11/2001.  It is Pakistan who uses the ISI in direct connection with the Taliban and Al Qaeda (reason why Daniel Perle and Pat Tillman were executed).

In addition, many people living within these countries do not trust their own dictatorial regimes and are aware that the American people are not causing the insanity in the Middle East but that a few powerful international elite are.

Agreed!  Let's define "they" as all those who are honestly seeking an alternative answer to the official US Government story.

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2008, 09:31:32 am »
The world is waking up, while the US becomes a laughing stock.

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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2008, 09:56:07 am »
Agreed!  Let's define "they" as all those who are honestly seeking an alternative answer to the official US Government story.

In that case...

We are They. ;)

Anyone with the modest of logical reasoning abilities can see through this nonsense and I agree with Biggs that the more international attention this gets the better, but I also wholeheartedly agree with John Gault that we need to be well aware of attempts by international elite to hijack 911 truth.

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Russian Experts To Debate 9-11 On Russian TV Friday
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2008, 10:24:12 am »
http://www.rense.com/general83/sde.htm


WASHINGTON, DC -- Thierry Meyssan reports from Moscow that he and other leading international 9/11 truth experts have completed taping a television debate which will be telecast on the first national program of Russian state television this coming Friday, September 12. This no-holds barred, free-wheeling debate, featuring strongly divergent opinions about what really happened on and about September 11, 2001, will be shown in conjunction with the documentary film Zero, produced and directed by Chiesa and Franco Fracassi of Telemaco Productions in Rome. Russians are thus about to receive an unprecedented evening of 9/11 truth.

 

The telecast will go out in the middle of prime time. Among the participants, General Leonid Ivashov was the commander of the Russian armed forces on September 11, 2001, and has been a leading critic of the US official version. A leading strategic thinker for his country, Ivashov is currently a fellow of the Strategic Culture Foundation (fondsk.ru) in Moscow. Giulietto Chiesa is a member of the European Parliament in Brussels, representing the region around Asti in northwest Italy. Chiesa has been the leading spokesman for 9/11 truth issues in the European Parliament, and has been the prime mover behind the documentary film Zero, as well as the collection of essays by the same name which has also attracted much attention in Italy since being published in the late summer of 2007. Thierry Meyssan, the founder and leader of the Voltaire Network in Paris, was one of the first critics of the US official story about 9/11. He is the author of several books, including 9/11: The Big Lie, and Pentagate. He also organized the Axis for Peace conference in Brussels in November 2005.

 

Among almost a dozen Russian participants in the debate that will be televised Friday evening in Moscow, one of the most compelling speakers was a Russian cosmonaut who observed the 9/11 events from his post on the International Space Station in earth orbit. This cosmonaut recounts in the telecast that, as he watched the immense plume of smoke spread from New York out over the Atlantic, he took a large number of photos and films which were sent automatically to both Houston and Moscow. "We have been studying these images very, very, carefully," commented the cosmonaut pointedly, "and we have seen some highly interesting things."

 

The host for the debate stressed that this landmark telecast did not imply that the Kremlin administration of President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin was officially espousing any particular point of view concerning 9/11, but rather reflected a commitment to free and open debate. Nevertheless, observers in the Russian capital sense a far-reaching change of mood by the Russian government in the wake of the August 7-8 genocidal attack on South Ossetia by the Georgian dictator and US satellite Saakashvili. The Russians, according to this view, are through with doing favors for the US, especially in regard to Washington's official myths about 9/11 and the war on terror, and this telecast will deliver that message in a clear and unmistakable way.

 

Webster G. Tarpley is the author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA. His current book is Obama ­ The Postmodern Coup: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate. These are available on amazon.com. His next book, entitled Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, will be available on lulu.com starting September 10.

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Re: Russia will televise 911 Truth on Sept 11 AND Debate on Friday
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2008, 10:43:58 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7_pqXokZvQ

RT discussing 911 and the video going to be shown to them.

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Re: Russia will televise 911 Truth on Sept 11 AND Debate on Friday
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2008, 10:47:32 am »
IS this going to be shown on the Russia Today channel? Many people get it as part of their cable channels.

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Re: Russia will televise 911 Truth on Sept 11 AND Debate on Friday
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2008, 10:53:42 am »
IS this going to be shown on the Russia Today channel? Many people get it as part of their cable channels.

That's what I was wondering too.  I'd love to watch it live Friday.  RT has a live web feed too for those without RT on cable and they are indeed discussing 9/11 right now!!!,

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Re: RUSSIA WILL TELEVISE 911 TRUTH ON Sept 11
« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2008, 11:30:33 am »
In that case...

We are They. ;)

Anyone with the modest of logical reasoning abilities can see through this nonsense and I agree with Biggs that the more international attention this gets the better, but I also wholeheartedly agree with John Gault that we need to be well aware of attempts by international elite to hijack 911 truth.


I agree with all of, no question it would be great to spread the word. Let the world know all about the mistakes this corrupt administration have made. Just as Sane said, the international elite will try and hijack the truth. They will make this their turn at power. Tell the world about 9/11, but also tell the world we handle our own criminals. They can sit there and watch how justice is truly done. No other country has done this for a long time. We can make  a statement that will stand forever. That the American people will not stand for tyranny.

Lou I also understand what you are saying about the middle-east and what the Bushies have done to their people. But their governments in the middle-east have been bought and paid for by the world's power brokers. So their justification to be vindicated is totally hollow.
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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2008, 11:40:11 am »
I agree with all of, no question it would be great to spread the word. Let the world know all about the mistakes this corrupt administration have made. Just as Sane said, the international elite will try and hijack the truth. They will make this their turn at power. Tell the world about 9/11, but also tell the world we handle our own criminals. They can sit there and watch how justice is truly done. No other country has done this for a long time. We can make  a statement that will stand forever. That the American people will not stand for tyranny.


Holy shit man, I got fricking chills of inspiration!  Please post more often!

Also, is it any wonder they are censoring End Game?  It is because AJ has dissected this agenda from the start.  9/11 will be used to pull US into fighting ghosts only to have the UN come in and "rectify" the situation with Maoist/Stalinist/Rothschild/Rockefeller/Beatrice agendas.

Never forget what Kissinger said concerning the UN.

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Taking Liberty - How Private Property is Being Abolished in America - The Grand Design
America's Choice - Liberty or Sustainable Development - streaming, part 2, part 3 PropertyRights - America's Constitution and Bill of Rights are to be held inviolate
PropertyRights.org - Helping Americans Protect Their Land
The August Review :: Documenting the rush to globalism
Centre for Research on Globalisation
The Green Agenda - The First Global Revolution
American Policy Center
American Expose with Chris Gerner - Radio show and Facts
Amerikan Expose | Agenda 21
The Intelligent Student's Guide to the New World Order
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and The New World Order
The REWILDING Project
Regional Governance
Who's Behind the Green Door?
The United Nations
NAFTA / GATT / WTO
America's SHADOW Government
Beware Metro, Regional Government - Phoebe Courtney - Online Book
National Anxiety Center - Are You Ready to Pay Your UN Taxes?
Tom DeWeese - 'Sustainable Development' The Evil Facing America, Part 1
Tom DeWeese - 'Sustainable Development' Or Liberty?, Part 2
Joan Veon -- UN article archive
The New American - Issues In Focus - United Nations
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and The New World Order
Multi-national Standby Force High Readiness Brigade For UN Operations
paragonfoundation.org - Today's Property Rights News
CorridorWatch.org - Stop the Trans-Texas Corridor, It is All States Too
United Nations Research (UNWatch.com)
Property Rights Foundation of America, Inc. - Home Page
Property Rights Research
The Politics of Water and Privatization
The War Room - New World Order
List of UN incidents - UN overriding U.S.
Welcome to uhuh.com -- exposing corruption
The U.N. Plan for Global Control- Agenda 21, Habitat II, Communist Manifesto <=
Population Control Agenda
This is a UN-free Zone... United Nations Keep Out
Freedom.org Home Page
Freedom21.org - Alternative to the U.N.'s Agenda 21
Exposing Sustainable Development
Globalizing Mining in America
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Sovereignty International
Sovereignty International - Land Use Control Menu
Agenda 21 Table of Contents
Eco Home Page
National Policy Analysis: United Nations Control Over America
National Parks that are Internetional Biosphere Reserves
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1972 Treaty Grants the U.N. Control Over American Historical Landmarks - July 2001
National Policy Analysis #419: Keep the Statue of Liberty Free: An Argument for Congressional Oversight of U.N. Land Designations in the U.S. - July 2002
UN Taking over US Parks
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Amnesty Denounces Peacekeepers Over Kosovo Sex Slavery
Michael New -- Mercenary... or American Soldier
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American Citizenship vs. U.S. citizenship
Links to EDUCATE yourself
Texas Eagle Forum - October 1997 - THE U.N. AMERICAN LAND GRAB
Andre Gunder Frank on Globalization, US imperialism, New World Order
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American Policy Center - Sustainable Development - agenda 21 - UN Theft
APC: Property Rights > Articles > Sustainable Development 101
APC: Bush Administration Sells Out Property Rights
Global Banking: The World Bank
Global Banking: The International Monetary Fund
Global Banking: The Bank for International Settlements
The Global Elite: Who are they?
Sound Money: The Gold Standard Manifesto
PAPER MONEY AND TYRANNY by Rep. Ron Paul
Operation Vampire Killer 2000 - by Officer Jack McLamb
United Nations - Agenda 21-chapter 26, the reason the borders are wide open
NEW WORLD ORDER VIDEO INDEX
fm_3-19.40 Internment/Resettlement PDF
fm3-19.40 PDF Military Police Internment/Resettlement Operations 8-1-01
FM3-19.40 TABLE OF CONTENTS - adtdl.army.mil
World Heritage Protection UNESCO's War
United Nations Vehicles on U.S. Soil!
Exposing the New World Order and Government Sponsored Terrorism
HardRoadtoWorldOrder.pdf by the CFR
US Military Transformation to Global NATO Response Force
UN Agenda 21 Dissolves United States Sovereignty
UNObserver & International Report
WorldNetDaily: National parks off-limits
Flashpoint: December 96 - Our National Parks Now Belong to United Nations
CRS Report for Congress - World Heritage Convention
WorldNetDaily: U.N. land grab in the works
APC: United Nations - A New Chance to Stop the UN's Threat to U.S. Sovereignty
Above Top Secret - New World Order
Google Search: INTERNATIONAL BIOSPHERE RESERVE
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Google Search: heritage biosphere project national parks
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Secretariat of the Convention on Biological Diversity - UNEP
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unesco man and the biosphere programme, mab
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Re: Russia will televise 911 Truth on Sept 11 AND Debate on Friday
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2008, 12:22:09 pm »
http://www.dw-world.de
interesting
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3626100,00.html

thats a site from the german news channel DW-TV.
anyways, they should play all alex jones documentaries 24/7 without a break!
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