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Eugenics Quotes
« on: September 07, 2008, 08:57:56 am »
Eugenics Quotes: From lofty ideals to highly-centralized population control run by psychopathic maniacs

Aaron Dykes / JonesReport.com | September 5, 2008

Here's a collection of eugenics quotes-- from as far back as 520 B.C. (the ideas are clearly age-old) up through the golden age of Eugencis-proper (from about 1883 through WWII), and up to the present date, where futurists, transhumanists and government policy makers look to an age where race-specific weapons are possible and mass death is conceivable and desirable for some of those in control.

With respect to those who may find the eugenics promise of better, faster, stronger, more human-than-human and the end of disease and handicaps to be appealing, I put forward (as a working thesis, if you will), that the drawbacks and excesses of eugenics as we've already seen it unfold should caution any promotion or endorsement.

Eugenics has been promoted not as a general philosophy of man, but inherently as a system of state control-- where reproduction must be guided by "wisemen" of one brand or another. This system leads, ultimately, again and again to control by elites who seek god-like powers (oftentimes in those very words)-- and total social control will almost always guide its directives and oversee its moral judgments-- making the betterment of the many over the elite few impossible.

This is true not only in the excesses of the Nazi Germany-- an obvious extreme, but in the would-be ideals of H.G. Wells (a la his 1905 Modern Utopia), the sometimes practical, sometimes overtly controlling eugenical policies in the USA, England and elsewhere in the first third of the 20th century-- and the same perils of total control threaten us in the might-be ideals of meg lo-maniacal elites of the transhumanist camp-- most who envision a man transformed, and some who envision the power of a god to kill the many.

Thus, what I oppose is not the hope for a better man, but the repetition of a vicious cycle of elite control and systematic death-- surely a far cry from the ideals we were asked to hope for in the promises of sciences & the state-- but connected, undoubtedly, to the controls over the direction of humanity as he moves ever forward towards the future.

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EUGENICS QUOTES (By no means exhaustive)

"Ram, ass, and horse, my Kyrnos, we look over
With care, and seek good stock for good to cover;
And yet the best men make no argument,
But wed, for money, runts of poor descent.
So too a woman will demean her state
And spurn the better for the richer mate.
Money's the cry. Good stock to bad is wed
And bad to good, till all the world's cross-bred.
No wonder if the country's breed declines-
Mixed metal, Kyrnos, that but dimly shines."
- Theognis of Megara on eugenics and dysgenics, circa 520 B.C.

"Men are generally more careful of the breed of their horses and dogs than of their children."
- William Penn. Some fruits of solitude, in reflections and maxims relating to the conduct of human life. 1693

"It does not, however, seem impossible that by an attention to breed, a certain degree of improvement, similar to that among animals, might take place among men. Whether intellect could be communicated may be a matter of doubt: but size, strength, beauty, complexion, and perhaps even longevity are in a degree transmissible... As the human race could not be improved in this way, without condemning all the bad specimens to celibacy, it is not probable, that an attention to breed should ever become general."
- Thomas R. Malthus. An Essay on Population. 1798

"Eugenics is the study of the agencies under social control that may improve or impair the racial qualities of future generations either physically or mentally."
- Francis Galton, first cousin and associate of Charles Darwin, circa 1883

"What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and kindly. As it lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction."
- Sir Francis Galton (1905)

"Galton’s eccentric, sceptical, observing, flashing, cavalry-leader type of mind led him eventually to become the founder of the most important, significant and, I would add, genuine branch of sociology which exists, namely eugenics."
- John Maynard Keynes. Eugenics Review. 1946

"Natural selection must be replaced by eugenical artificial selection. This idea constitutes the sound core of eugenics, the applied science of human betterment."
- Theodosius Dobzhansky. Heredity and the Nature of Man. 1964

"...impregnation will be regarded in an entirely different manner, more in the light of a surgical operation, so that it will be thought not ladylike to have it performed in the natural manner."
- Bertrand Russell. The Scientific Outlook. 1972

"There is no permanent status quo in nature; all is the process of adjustment and readjustment, or else eventual failure. But man is the first being yet evolved on earth which has the power to note this changefulness, and, if he will, to turn it to his own advantage, to work out genetic methods, eugenic ideas, yes, to invent new characteristics, organs, and biological systems that will work out to further the interests, the happiness, the glory of the God-like being whose meager foreshadowings we the present ailing creatures are."
- Herrman J. Muller, 1935 (an associate of Sir Julian Huxley)

"The first century or two of the new millennium will almost certainly be a golden age for Eugenics. Through application of new genetic knowledge and reproductive technologies…the major change will be to mankind itself…[T]echniques…such as…genetic manipulations are not yet efficient enough to be unquestionably suitable in therapeutic and eugenic application for humans. But with the pace of research it is surely only a matter of time, and a short time at that."
- Glayde Whitney, Reproduction Technology for a New Eugenics, paper for The Galton Institute conference Man and Society in the New Millennium, September 1999

"There is NO DENYING the natural world would be a better place without people - ALL people! Not a selective bunch. Get it straight."
- Rebecca Calisi, student of Eric Pianka

"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it."
- Jacques Cousteau,  1991 UNESCO courier

"Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind.... Any group of farmers who permitted their best stock not to breed, and let all the increase come from the worst stock, would be treated as fit inmates for an asylum.... Some day we will realize that the prime duty, the inescapable duty of the good citizens of the right type is to leave his or her blood behind him in the world; and that we have no business to permit the perpetuation of citizens of the wrong type. The great problem of civilization is to secure a relative increase of the valuable as compared with the less valuable or noxious elements in the population... The problem cannot be met unless we give full consideration to the immense influence of heredity..."
- Theodore Roosevelt to Charles B. Davenport, January 3, 1913, Charles B. Davenport Papers, Department of Genetics, Cold Spring Harbor, N.Y.

"I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feebleminded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them... The emphasis should be laid on getting desirable people to breed..."
Roosevelt, “Twisted Eugenics,” in The Works of Theodore Roosevelt, op. cit., National Edition, XII, p. 201.

"Political unification in some sort of world government will be required... Even though... any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable."
- Sir Julian Huxley, UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy.

“I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing... War... has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full... The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of that? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people's... There are three ways of securing a society that shall be stable as regards population. The first is that of birth control, the second that of infanticide or really destructive wars, and the third that of general misery except for a powerful minority...”
- Bertrand Russell, THE IMPACT OF SCIENCE ON SOCIETY 1953

"Problem-makers reproduce in greater percentage than problem-solvers, and in so doing cause the decline of civilization… In short, if capable, intelligent people had most babies, society would see its problems and solve them."
- Elmer Pendell, from Sex Versus Civilization, 1967

"Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend…One-fourth is ready to so choose, given the example of one other…One-fourth is resistant to election. They are unattracted by life ever-evolving. One-fourth is destructive. They are born angry with God…They are defective seeds…There have always been defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death’…We, the elders, have been patiently waiting until the very last moment before the quantum transformation, to take action to cut out this corrupted and corrupting element in the body of humanity. It is like watching a cancer grow…Now, as we approach the quantum shift from creature-human to co-creative human—the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers—the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body. We have no choice, dearly beloveds. Fortunately you, dearly beloveds, are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death. We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God…The riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity…"
Futurist Barbara Marx Hubbard (who wanted to create a Dept. of Peace)

"There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."
- Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, April 28, 1997, Testimony before Congressional Committee

“And advanced forms of biological warfare  that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”
- The Project for a New American Century, Rebuilding America’s Defenses, p. 60

"IN THE 1920s and 1930s, scientists from both the political left and right would not have found the idea of designer babies particularly dangerous - though of course they would not have used that phrase. Today, I suspect that the idea is too dangerous for comfortable discussion, and my conjecture is that Adolf Hitler is responsible for the change.

Nobody wants to be caught agreeing with that monster, even in a single particular. The spectre of Hitler has led some scientists to stray from "ought" to "is" and deny that breeding for human qualities is even possible. But if you can breed cattle for milk yield, horses for running speed, and dogs for herding skill, why on Earth should it be impossible to breed humans for mathematical, musical or athletic ability? Objections such as "these are not one-dimensional abilities" apply equally to cows, horses and dogs and never stopped anybody in practice.

I wonder whether, some 60 years after Hitler's death, we might at least venture to ask what the moral difference is between breeding for musical ability and forcing a child to take music lessons. Or why it is acceptable to train fast runners and high jumpers but not to breed them. I can think of some answers, and they are good ones, which would probably end up persuading me. But hasn't the time come when we should stop being frightened even to put the question?"
- Richard Dawkins

MARGARET SANGER QUOTES, Founder of the Birth Control League (which later became Planned Parenthood)

"No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child… without a permit for parenthood."
- Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) in her proposed The American Baby Code, intended to become law.

"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
- Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
- Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems."
- Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

"Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives."
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"As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation.... On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."
- Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

"The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics."
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

"Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all."
- Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on "The Cruelty of Charity," pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition.

"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
- Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.

"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."
- Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review.

"As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our outrageous and our courageous leader, we will probably find a number of areas in which we may find more about Margaret Sanger than we thought we wanted to know..."
- Faye Wattleton, Past-president of Planned Parenthood

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the Population Congress with the aim, "...to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization."

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Re: Eugenics Quotes
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2008, 09:24:53 am »
matrixcutter, thanks again for continuing to keep us informed.

And, of course thanks to Aaron for the original article.

These guys have been doing this for hundreds of years.  Their fingerprints are everywhere, how long can billions of people ignore the agenda so logically uncovered in 'End Game'?
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Re: Eugenics Quotes
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2008, 11:57:09 am »
matrixcutter, thanks again for continuing to keep us informed.
You're welcome.


And, of course thanks to Aaron for the original article.
Yes, thanks to Aaron.


Here are a few more relevant links:
Rebecca Carley on Live From the Grassy Knoll (old show)
http://www.mediafire.com/?sevjnweni5o

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Links to 2 more real player files of old Grassy Knoll shows:

03-Fema and Myths of Small Pox-Vaccines.rm
http://www.mediafire.com/?xad0xfqsqei

04-Vaccine Business.rm
http://www.mediafire.com/?ozuljltqxcm

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Merck - cancer viruses in vaccines (9mins 57s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udTmlhQaIeg

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From http://www.drcarley.com/

Dr. Carley vs Jamaican Ministry of Health on Compulsory Vaccines 7/6/08 (mp3)

David Kirby (mercury) vs. Dr. Carley (demyelination) as the cause of autism - YOU DECIDE (mp3)

Dr Carley's Interview by the Chiropractic Leadership Alliance (mp3)

TESTIMONIALS:

Mom of Autistic Daughter (mp3)

"What's Healing America? Hippocrates Protocol" (mp3)
with Meria Heller, Peter Kawaja and Dr. Carley

Autism Testimonial (mp3)

NYS Medical Board Fraud (mp3)

Who is behind Quackwatch? (mp3)

What's Ailing America? Vaccine Induced Damage in People & Pets
With Guest Dr. Andrew Moulden - 8/7/08 (mp3)

WHAT'S AILING AMERICA - Dr Carley's show

RBN show archives

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Sept. 1, 2008
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" on RBN (ads removed):
"Terrifying Propaganda Says You'll Die - Oh What to Do?
Roll Up Your Sleeve, Take a Jab, It May Prevent the Flu,
The Inventor has No Faith In It, and Studies are Askew,
The Makers Tell You'll Go to Hell if You Should Catch the Flu,
The Public's in a Quandary to Which Study Must be True,
Government's Mandate Says Don't be Late, We Must Prevent the Flu" - mp3

(Article: "Flu jab that costs £115m a year does not cut death rate in elderly" by Jenny Hope (mailonsunday.co.uk) - Aug. 29, 2008.)

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Reality Check (1hr 28mins) - transcript
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Ego-syntonic behavior has been encouraged and it's very possible brain damage has occurred as well, since Arthur Koestler who worked at the United Nations and wrote a book called "The Ghost in the Machine" and who worked on ways to lobotomize that part of the brain that gives you yourself awareness and your critical survival capabilities. He was working on ways to destroy that chemically, bacteriologically, through viruses, whatever. There's different segments working for the U.N. on this and he wrote about it all in his book. He was all for it right to the end. It's a square line to you.  He said that the elite won't need - I mean that the peasants basically - the masses won't need those instincts anymore because the scientific elite will be making all their decisions for them. We'll be managed, well managed you see.

Whereas those who manage us must keep theirs, because they must retain survival capabilities so they could steal your planet earth into the future. That's what the rulers at the top talk about it, of course, as they talk about us. We must not know this kind of stuff. We're just children. It'll give us nightmares. Don't tell the children what we're doing.

The IQ levels are dropping. It doesn't happen by—you're born with an IQ. When it starts dropping, something has happened to make that happen. What can do it? Bacterial warfare? Bio-warfare techniques? Injections?  They were discussing this back in the 1700’s and 1800’s, using inoculations to do it, at big meetings in Europe.

You'll find Jack Cousteau talking about that. David Suzuki in Canada. Have to bring down the populations. They don't just talk about it. They have a Department of Population Control at the United Nations. What do you think it means? A wish list that they sit and dream about? No. It means that they will implement it and they can't tell the children. They can't tell the children, “Hey, you're going to have a shorter life. You're going to come down with crippling diseases and you'll die out there.” They can't tell you the truth. You don't tell the children the truth. It's scary.

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Prince Philip: Just too many people to feed (4mins 23s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG4nMHCgpPY
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We first hear Prince Philip being presented as the manager of a 20,000 acre royal estate, as though he actually does any of the work himself.

Then we are introduced to the idea that one of his great passions is conservation, and that he has always been interested in conservation "long before it became terribly terribly fashionable."

In 1961 Prince Philip became president of World Wildlife Fund (WWF) UK.

SIR Trevor McDonald states that "many years before environmental issues became part of the political agenda, the duke took a stand." Then we see a brief clip of Prince Philip speaking at the 1970 World Conference on Pollution, in Strasbourg, calling for "drastic political action".

Sir Trevor McDonald feeds the prince the idea that "at some point, some religious teaching would sort of conflict with what some of the needs of conservation are. I'm thinking about the arguments which lead to population explosion and all that."

Prince Philip argues that the consequences of population explosion is what matters. He links this to what's happening around the world at the moment, and says that "the food prices are going up -- everyone thinks it's to do with not enough food, but it's really that demand is too great, too many people."

He adds "it's a little embarrassing for everybody, no one quite knows how to handle it. Nobody wants their family life to be interfered with by the government."

He says that overpopulation is to blame for many of the problems afflicting millions of people around the world.

What was not mentioned in this propaganda piece was the fact that in August 1988 Prince Philip told Deutsche Press Agentur "in the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation." - http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/051208_prince_philip.htm

He reiterated his desire to be a catalyst for mass genocide in the foreword to his book If I Were An Animal, released in 1986:
"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."

The Georgie Guidestones are interesting - http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/pictures.html

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Alan Watt discussed Prince Philip's comments in the following show:

May 12, 2008
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" on RBN (ads removed):
"All That Was must Pass Away
The New Order must Have Its Day
First must Come the End of Nation
By Crisis, Circus and Degradation" - mp3 - transcript

(Articles: "Prince Philip: 'Just too many people to feed' " by Patrick Sawer (telegraph.co.uk) - May 10, 2008. - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/1944643/Prince-Philip-Just-too-many-people-to-feed.html )
"3rd option in death: Dissolve bodies" by Norma Love, The Associated Press (at seattletimes.nwsource.com) - May 9, 2008. - http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004402374_dissolve09.html )
"Things your body can do after you die" by Maggie Koerth-Baker (CNN.com) - April 30, 2008. - http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/04/30/dead.bodies/ )

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The following quote is taken from the Club of Rome's book The First Global Revolution, in between the introduction and the first chapter:
"No generation has ever liked its prophets, least of all those who point out the consequences of bad judgement and lack of foresight. The Club of Rome can take pride in the fact that it has been unpopular for the last twenty years. I hope it will continue for many years to come to spell out the unpalatable facts and to unsettle the conscience of the smug and the apathetic."
- Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh,
Message to the 20th Anniversary Conference of the Club of Rome, Paris, 1988

Alan Watt discussed the Club of Rome and their admissions in this book - including admitting to coming up with the idea of the ongoing man-made global warming propaganda - in his blurb from May 30, 2007:
Crisis Creation by the Club of Rome - Clubbing Us to Death
mp3
transcript

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Sustainable Development Part 1 of 2 (7mins 36s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuD9Bf3WFNU

Sustainable Development Part 1 of 2 (6mins 59s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ds3l3Nv_xQ

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Re: Eugenics Quotes
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 01:58:03 pm »
Jefferson supporting the slaughter of the French Revolution

"I have seen half the earth desolated. Were there but an Adam & Eve left in every country, & left free, it would be better than it now is...The liberty of the whole earth was depending on the issue of the contest."
     - Thomas Jefferson, "Adam and Eve" letter January 3, 1793

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Re: Eugenics Quotes
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 02:00:07 pm »
Thanks, good to see Aaron writing an article about that. Now I'm off to read it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 02:39:03 pm »
That Margaret Sanger is a complete abomination. She is a devil i hope, if there is such a thing as hell, she is rotting in it as i type this response.

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Re: Eugenics Quotes
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 02:49:55 pm »
Lets add to that:

Frederick Osborne, February 24, 1937:
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A brief history of the origin and development of eugenic sterilization showed the originality of the United States where all the first laws were initiated, and indicated the lack of thoroughness of our people in their failure to follow through.

In Germany, the need for eugenic measures was not only the result of the war [World War I], but also of the increasing urbanization and mobility of her people, resulting in the location of families in new surroundings where they were not known by their neighbors or by the authorities, which presented serious problems. Changes in both increasing urbanization and mobility of her people are rapidly taking place in the United States also.

A law enacted in Germany in 1927 made rapid improvement in the control of venereal disease, and while slower results will probably be obtained by the more recent eugenic laws her work along these lines deserves careful study.

German's rapidity of change with respect to eugenics was possible only under a dictator. The decisions which were made were based so far as possible on prevailing scientific knowledge, - and in some cases at least the interpretation, or even the knowledge itself was incorrect. In this, there is a lesson to us of the need for an advance in science for adjusting proposed eugenic policies to other social needs.

In discussing the actual application of Germany's eugenic laws, Dr. Kopp's paper raises interesting questions.

The German sterilization program is apparently an excellent one, although it is generally doubted whether equal or better results might not have been obtained by a voluntary rather than a compulsory system.

The marriage loans are an experiment to be watched with interest. The conditions attached to the loans rule out the lowest levels of the population.

The municipal sponsorship of the ‘superior’ babies is a most interesting experiment.

The ban on inter-racial marriage lacks scientific basis, but from the German standpoint may be justified by social conditions . . . .

Taken altogether, recent developments in Germany constitute perhaps the most important experiment which has ever been tried. (6)
This is the man who was the first director of the Rockefeller created Population Council.

Some quotes from James Lovelock (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-541748/Were-doomed-40-years-global-catastrophe--theres-NOTHING-says-climate-change-expert.html):
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Lovelock expects the same changes among wildlife. "Polar bears will not become extinct, they will just go back to what they were, which is brown bears."

Nature is adapting to the changing climate and Lovelock argues that humankind will have to do the same. We will face a ruthless period of natural selection.

"I reckon there are about 80 per cent more people than the world can carry," he says sanguinely.

Geography will play the largest role in survival. By chance, Britain is well-placed for the new hot phase. An effect of the changes will be the end of the Gulf Stream which keeps Britain warm.

So the climbing temperatures will be countered by cooler water. However, our European neighbours will not be so fortunate. "A lot of people who come here will be Europeans," predicts Lovelock.

"If you take the IPCC predictions, then by 2040 every summer in Europe will be as hot as it was in 2003 - between 110F and 120F. It is not the death of people that is the main problem, it is the fact that the plants can't grow. There will be almost no food grown in Europe.

"By 2040, parts of the Sahara desert will have moved into middle Europe. We are talking about Paris. As far north as Berlin. In Britain we will escape because of our oceanic position."

But Britain will not be entirely unaffected. According to Lovelock, rising sea levels will threaten central London, Cambridge and Somerset.

"We should do what the Dutch have done, and build a sea wall - or abandon the middle of London and have it as a lagoon city. Parliament and the City could relocate to higher ground."

The consequences of climate change are a science fiction nightmare. The writer of Dr Who, Russell T. Davies, once told me the only plot he would avoid was the environment because he could not give audiences a happy ending.

Yet Lovelock contemplates catastrophe almost with excitement. I ask why is he not terrified.

He answers that he has never lost a single night's sleep over the future. Scientific interest overcomes self-interest. He has a humility about the place of humans in the 3.5 billion year lifespan of the Earth. He talks not of people but of "our species".

He passionately wants "the best of our species" to survive, and is philosophical about the majority who won't.

"It will be a challenging and difficult life ahead but it will bring out the best in us. It will bring the most awful problem for our people and our Government.

"At some point, we are going to have to say Britain is a lifeboat. If any more people come on board then we will sink.

"If we get it wrong, you will have ghastly encampments like Darfur. People will be smuggling their way in and setting up camps. Ethnic communities will want to help them and civil war will start."

However, immigration is also a natural form of selection, he argues. Those who are prepared to travel will be the survivors.

"We should be selective and those brave, enterprising healthy people coming over in cockle boats from Africa should be the first we let in.

"I think we will have to be rough on people of my age. But I have lived a darn good life, why should I grumble? One shouldn't be a freeloader."
And now, a co-founder of the club of Rome, who admits his complicity in a genocide that has killed millions of people, to keep the planet depopulated:
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My own doubts came when DDT was introduced for civilian use. In Guyana, within two years, it had almost eliminated malaria, but at the same time the birth rate had doubled. So my chief quarrel with DDT in hindsight is that it greatly added to the population problem.
-Alexander King, in The Discipline of Curiosity, 1990

Here, he ADMITS IT! They banned DDT to keep people dying from malaria.

Here's another one, Charles Darwin's grandson, Charles Galton Darwin in his book, the Next Million Years on page 148:
"It is clear from all this that the world policy would need to be supported by international sanctions, and the only ultimate sanction must be war. Present methods of warfare would not be nearly murderous enough to reduce populations seriously, and even so they would take a nearly equal toll of victims from the unoffending nations. So after the war the question would arise of how to reduce the excess population of the offending nation. It is not possible to be humane in this, but the most humane method would seem to be infanticide together with the sterilization of a fraction of the adult population. Such sterilization could now be done without the brutal methods practised in the past, but it would certainly be vehemently resisted."

That's who you face. Inbred freaks who want to kill your children.

This man had five children by the way, just like David Rockefeller and Ted Turner, just goes to show the double standard. People in Nigeria and the Philippines need to be sterilized, people in Africa need to die from malaria and HIV, people in Iraq need to die from cancer, we need to die from cancer, and our kids need to live their entire lives autistic, unable to talk, let alone marry and raise children, but these people can have 5 children.

Edit: David Rockefeller actually had 6 children.

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@David "This man had five children by the way, just like David Rockefeller and Ted Turner, just goes to show the double standard. "

They are nuts and see themselves as a superior species to us. So they do not see it as a double standard, but in reality it definitely is.

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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2008, 05:13:33 pm »
I was hoping for this list when listening to Friday's program.  Many thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 05:53:08 pm »
fkn awesome list; ill use some of these for a documentary

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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2008, 03:08:14 am »
Thanks for those matrixcutter- those quotes will come in very handy for using on message boards when government stooges try and paint a pretty picture to attempt to keep people asleep.

Here are two related snippets:
 The U.N.'s 1994 Global Biodiversity Assessment Report, envisages a 70% reduction in world population to 2 billion people.
http://www.policestateplanning.com/nwo_speech.htm

Rockefeller Population Control Agenda on The History Channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QKjHuSOAmw
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2008, 08:46:22 am »
Thanks for those matrixcutter
No problem.


those quotes will come in very handy for using on message boards when government stooges try and paint a pretty picture to attempt to keep people asleep.
Definitely, so thanks to Aaron for putting them together.  He's the one who actually put the work in.

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2008, 10:54:08 am »
hardcore stuff here, really there are some serious scum around

definitely a thread saved in my bookmarks for future reference, thanks for all the info guys
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rise of the third reich

In 1933, shortly after Hitler's appointment as Chancellor of Germany, the German Parliament was set on fire by the Nazis and the Communists were blamed for this act of terrorism against the German people. Following the Nazi-inspired arson, Hitler exploited the outrage of the German citizens to arrogate to himself dictatorial powers which he promised would be used to rid Germany of Communists. The next day, Chancellor Hitler demanded from the German cabinet an emergency decree which would enable him to deal decisively with the domestic crisis. President von Hindenburg signed the decree "for the Protection of the people and the State."  An account of this watershed event is found at The History Place:

    "The exact sequence of events will never be known, but Nazi storm troopers under the direction of Göring were also involved in torching the place. They had befriended the arsonist [a Communist named Van der Lubbe] and may have known or even encouraged him to burn the Reichstag that night. The storm troopers, led by SA leader Karl Ernst, used the underground tunnel that connected Göring's residence with the cellar in the Reichstag. They entered the building, scattered gasoline and incendiaries, then hurried back through the tunnel.
    "The deep red glow of the burning Reichstag caught the eye of President Hindenburg and Vice-Chancellor Papen who were dining at a club facing the building. Papen put the elderly Hindenburg in his own car and took him to the scene.
    "Hitler was at Goebbels' apartment having dinner. They rushed to the scene where they met Göring who was already screaming false charges and making threats against the Communists.
    "At first glance, Hitler described the fire as a beacon from heaven.
    "'You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in German history...This fire is the beginning," Hitler told a news reporter at the scene.
    "After viewing the damage, an emergency meeting of government leaders was held. When told of the arrest of the Communist arsonist, Van der Lubbe, Hitler became deliberately enraged.
    "'The German people have been soft too long. Every Communist official must be shot. All Communist deputies must be hanged this very night. All friends of the Communists must be locked up. And that goes for the Social Democrats and the Reichsbanner as well!'
    "Hitler left the fire scene and went straight to the offices of his newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, to oversee its coverage of the fire. He stayed up all night with Goebbels putting together a paper full of tales of a Communist plot to violently seize power in Berlin.
    "At a cabinet meeting held later in the morning, February 28, Chancellor Hitler demanded an emergency decree to overcome the crisis. He met little resistance from his largely non-Nazi cabinet. That evening, Hitler and Papen went to Hindenburg and the befuddled old man signed the decree "for the Protection of the people and the State."
    "The Emergency Decree stated: "Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed."
    "Immediately, there followed the first big Nazi roundup as truckloads of SA and SS roared through the streets bursting in on known Communist hangouts and barging into private homes. Thousands of Communists as well as Social Democrats and liberals were taken away into 'protective custody' to SA barracks where they were beaten and tortured.
    "'I don't have to worry about justice; my mission is only to destroy and exterminate, nothing more!" - Hermann Göring, March 3, 1933.
    "Fifty one anti-Nazis were murdered. The Nazis suppressed all political activity, meetings and publications of non-Nazi parties. The very act of campaigning against the Nazis was in effect made illegal. 1.

rise of the fourth reich

The U.S. government's response to a frightened and enraged U.S. citizenry over the recent attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center has been eerily reminiscent of Hitler's strategy, that is (1) geared to exacerbate the reaction of fear and hostility and (2) to put on a fast track three initiatives which bear an uneasy resemblance to the Nazi takeover of Germany. The irony of the situation is that the rapidity and recklessness with which the U.S. government would abrogate the Bill of Rights places the Bush administration and Congress in the same camp with the enemies of freedom they purport to oppose:

1.    The Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

The U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee is presently steamrolling through the Congress a bill which would increase the power of U.S. law enforcement agencies.  Attorney General John Ashcroft said the FBI needed additional surveillance and enforcement powers immediately and the Department of Justice demanded the bill be enacted by September 28.  The House Judiciary committee was scheduled to vote on the Bush administration's bill the morning of September 25, however, in response to an outcry the vote now is set to take place next week. (Two days after the catastrophic attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Senate voted on anti-terrorist legislation, which increased Internet surveillance, after senators were given just 30 minutes to read the measure.)

According to The Electronic Frontier Foundation, "...the DoJ has sat on this bill, a 'wish list', for some time, waiting to take advantage of a tragedy like the World Trade Center attack to ram it through Congress with little debate or objection."

The Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 would eliminate the legal requirement for government agents to get permission from a judge before being allowed to search homes and download computer files. Under the proposed law, the information gathered could be used in court, a legal change which presently violates constitutional protections against search and seizure. The proposed bill would also eliminate the requirement for a judge to sign a warrant in order for government agents to get billing records from hotels, phone companies, and other businesses, replacing judicial review with an administrative subpoena. Essentially, agencies would be able to sign their own search warrants and conduct searches in routine secrecy, without having to notify the subject of the search.

Additionally, this law gives broad surveillance powers to the federal government, and authorizes the issuance of wiretaps by a secret seven-judge court in Washington, D.C. The DOJ bill proposes a host of Wiretap Act expansions which are not limited to terrorism investigations, and which vastly increase the power of the federal government to conduct surveillance of the reading habits and correspondence of the American people. The DOJ bill would expand the power of the police to record the phone numbers of incoming and outgoing phone calls on a phone line to include surveillance of Internet surfing and e-mail. 2.

Coverage on Monday, September 24, of the Anti-Terrorism Act was limited to Attorney General John Ashcroft's testimony urging hasty passage of the sweeping new police powers sought by the Bush administration.  Although Ashcroft’s testimony was open to television cameras, the committee's Republican staff ordered camera crews to leave when civil liberties and free-speech advocates were called to testify. This happened in violation of House rules which state, "Whenever a hearing or meeting conducted by a committee or subcommittee is open to the public, those proceedings shall be open to coverage by audio and visual means."

2.    The Office of Homeland Security

From: Concerned Citizens Opposed to Police States

"On the evening of September 20, President Bush allied himself with the worst enemies of freedom. He made a seemingly innocuous -- even a comforting-sounding -- announcement. He said he had created the cabinet-level Office of Homeland Security, with Pennsylvania governor Tom Ridge as its head. (See: Transcript)
"Most people were utterly unaware of the significance of Bush's new bureaucracy. But for anyone watching the advance of police-state policies in America, absolutely nothing could have been more ominous.

"The Homeland Defense Agency is not a new idea. Conceived by a bi-partisan commission headed by former senators Gary Hart and Warren Rudman, this Clinton-era conception,  'The Phase III Report Of The U.S. Commission On National Security/21st Century,' is nothing less than the framework for a permanent military-bureaucratic American police state.

"The new Homeland Defense Agency is the lynchpin of a plan that extensively reorganizes both the executive and legislative functions of the U.S. government. Among other things, the plan makes the National Guard a national police force. It extensively federalizes both the study and the work of science, mathematics, and engineering. It creates numerous new sub-bureaucracies. The Homeland Security agency itself is to 'be built upon the Federal Emergency Management Agency, with the three organizations currently on the front line of border security - the Coast Guard, the Customs Service, and the Border Patrol - transferred to it.' The plan calls for the new agency to oversee activities of the Department of Defense, as well as to assume a variety of duties now held by agencies from the Department of Commerce to the FBI." 3.

3.    Compulsory National Identification Cards
One of Hitler's methods of controlling the German citizenry was mandatory national I.D. cards. No one could obtain work, food or travel without such cards and by means of the information on them, those who were socially unfit for the new German state could be easily identified and eliminated.  More recently (last weekend), ORACLE Chairman and CEO Larry Ellison called for the United States to create a national identification system to thwart terrorists and offered to donate the software for this massive enterprise. Under Ellison's proposal, Americans would be photographed and fingerprinted and the information would be placed on a database used by airport security officials to verify identities of travelers at airplane gates.

"'We need a national ID card with our photograph and thumbprint digitized and embedded in the ID card,' Ellison said in an interview Friday night on the evening news of KPIX-TV in San Francisco. 'We need a database behind that, so when you're walking into an airport and you say that you are Larry Ellison, you take that card and put it in a reader and you put your thumb down and that system confirms that this is Larry Ellison,' he said." 4.
In his Address to the Congress, Congressman Ron Paul offered a feasible alternative to the draconian measure of compuslory national ID cards:
    "Precise identification of all travelers on all our air flights is a desired goal. A national ID issued by the federal government would prove to be disastrous to our civil liberties and should not be considered. This type of surveillance power should never be given to an intrusive overbearing government, no matter how well intentioned the motives.
    "The same results can be better achieved by the marketplace. Passenger IDs voluntarily issued by the airlines could be counterfeit-proof; and loss or theft of an ID could be immediately reported to the proper authorities. An ID, fingerprints, birth certificates, or any other information can be required without any violations of anyone's personal liberty. This delicate information would not be placed in the hands of the government agents but could be made available to law enforcement officers like any other information obtained with probable cause and a warrant." 5.

the real terrorist network

The foregoing analysis may appear on the surface to be an unfair comparison between the early period of the George W. Bush administration and the rise of Hitler's Third Reich, with the obvious implication that more unhappy parallels will occur in the days ahead.  For those who are skeptical that the present crisis could be at all analogous to early developments in Nazi Germany, George Bush: An Unauthorized Biography by Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin presents solid evidence that genocide is very much a part of the Bush family tradition.

This Unauthorized Biography is dismissed by some critics because the authors' material often appears in the publications of Lyndon LaRouche, who was a federal political prisoner during Bush's tenure after having been imprisoned on trumped up charges and flimsy evidence.  The  Public Information Research Database  speculates concerning Lyndon LaRouche:

"It's also fair to ask what makes LaRouche tick. One theory is that he may be secretly sponsored by the Vatican. How else does one explain the tantrums against Freemasonry and secret societies (such as Bush's Skull and Bones), against Anglican apostasy (dope-pushing British imperialism), and against anything that smacks of planned parenthood or population control (the Malthusian activism of the Rockefellers)? When these tirades are occasionally juxtaposed with respectful quotations from His Holiness, it makes us wonder." 6.
Notwithstanding the controversy surrounding Lyndon LaRouche, the quality of the Tarpley-Chaitkin research on the Bush family oligarchy stands on its own merits as solid documentation assembled from newspapers, interviews, government documents and other credible sources. The PIR Database describes it as "a massive compendium of elitist connections not found elsewhere." The first few chapters should suffice to convince skeptics of the fascist connections of the Bush family and of the gravity of the present crisis in America, which extends far beyond Osama bin Laden's terrorist network to the larger network of Anglo-American elites -- who financed the Nazi terrorist machine and whose objective remains the extermination of every individual deemed unworthy of survival in the coming New World Order.
The grandfather of President George W. Bush (Skull & Bones, 1968) was Prescott Bush (Skull & Bones, 1917), and his great grand father was George Herbert Walker. Prescott Bush and George Herbert (Bert) Walker were directors of the London-affiliated New York banking house of Brown Brothers-Harriman and its various fronts, which funded and directed the military-industrial complex behind Hitler and the Nazi revolution. In 1919, George Herbert Walker had organized W.A. Harriman & Co which merged with the British Brown Brothers in 1931. In 1924 Averell Harriman (Skull & Bones, 1913) and Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist who began funding Hitler in 1923, set up the Union Banking Corp in New York to handle funds supplied to it through Thyssen's Dutch bank for American investment. Prescott Bush had been an officer of the W.A. Harriman bank since 1926 and was a director of the Union Banking Corp from 1934 through 1943. According to government documents, "all of the shares of the Union Banking Corp., were held for the benefit of members of the Thyssen family."

The federal government did not crack down on the Bush-Harriman/Nazi operation until 1942. After the war, Congressional investigation revealed that Fritz Thyssen's German Steel Trust, Germany's largest industrial corporation [which interlocked with Union Banking Corporation] produced a high percentage of Germany's national output of metal products and explosives.  Vesting Orders signed by the Office of Alien Property Custodian, Leo T. Crowley, which were "published in obscure government record books and kept out of the news, explained nothing about the Nazis involved; only that the Union Banking Corporation was run for the 'Thyssen family' of 'Germany and/or Hungary'-- 'nationals...of a designated enemy country.'"

    "In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush.
    "Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland 'Bunny' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush. 1.
'E. Roland Harriman--3991 shares' [chairman and director of Union Banking Corp. (UBC); this is 'Bunny' Harriman, described by Prescott Bush as a place holder who didn't get much into banking affairs; Prescott managed his personal investments]
'Cornelis Lievense--4 shares' [president and director of UBC; New York resident banking functionary for the Nazis]
'Harold D. Pennington--1 share' [treasurer and director of UBC; an office manager employed by Bush at Brown Brothers Harriman]
'Ray Morris--1 share' [director of UBC; partner of Bush and the Harrimans]
'Prescott S. Bush--1 share' [director of UBC, which was co-founded and sponsored by his father-in-law George Walker; senior managing partner for E. Roland Harriman and Averell Harriman]
'H.J. Kouwenhoven--1 share' [director of UBC; organized UBC as the emissary of Fritz Thyssen in negotiations with George Walker and Averell Harriman; managing director of UBC's Netherlands affiliate under Nazi occupation; industrial executive in Nazi Germany; director and chief foreign  financial executive of the German Steel Trust]
'Johann G. Groeninger--1 share' [director of UBC and of its Netherlands affiliate; industrial executive in Nazi Germany]
"all of which shares are held for the benefit of ... members of the Thyssen family, [and] is property of nationals ... of a designated enemy country...."

    "By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. 2.
    "U.S. forces landed under fire near Algiers on Nov. 8, 1942; heavy combat raged throughout November. Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation, long managed by Prescott Bush and his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act on Nov. 17, 1942. In this action, the government announced that it was seizing only the Nazi interests, leaving the Nazis' U.S. partners to carry on the business. 3.
    "These and other actions taken by the U.S. government in wartime were, tragically, too little and too late. President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany; in financing and managing the buildup of Nazi war industries for the conquest of Europe and war against the U.S.A.; and in the development of Nazi genocide theories and racial propaganda, with their well-known results.
    "The facts presented here must be known, and their implications reflected upon, for a proper understanding of President George Herbert Walker Bush and of the danger to mankind that he represents. The President's family fortune was largely a result of the Hitler project. The powerful Anglo-American family associations, which later boosted him into the Central Intelligence Agency and up to the White House, were his father's partners in the Hitler project." 7.

The authors then pose the questions of how and to what extent the Bush family directed the Hitler Project from the 1920s until it was partially broken up:
"In what way were Hitler's Nazis themselves hired, armed and instructed by the New York and London clique of which Prescott Bush was an executive manager?"
"How important was the Nazi enterprise for which President Bush's father was the New York banker?"

Equally germane is the question, why?  What possible interest would George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush have had in overseeing the Nazi operation?
 

race purification & the eugenics internationale

George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush were active in the leadership of the eugenics societies that were popular among the wealthy classes in the first half of the twentieth century. Prescott Bush was the Connecticut director of the Mental Hygiene Society which originated at Yale University in 1908. The headquarters of the American Eugenics Society was also at Yale (also home of the Order of Skull & Bones) until its relocation to and merger in 1952 with the Population Council, which was founded by John D. Rockefeller and John Foster Dulles, lawyer for Brown Brothers Harriman.

The Mental Hygiene Society of which Prescott Bush was a director was a project of the Order of Skull and Bones. The society "would evolve into the CIA's cultural engineering effort of the 1950s, the drugs and brainwashing adventure known as 'MK-Ultra'...an anti-American project which poured drugs into the country and worked to fabricate the drug-sex youth culture." 8.

"A behavior control research project was begun in the 1950s, coordinated by the British psychological warfare unit called the Tavistock Institute, with the Scottish Rite Masons, the Central Intelligence Agency, and other British, U.S., Canadian, and United Nations agencies. The project became famous in the 1970s under a CIA code name, 'MK-Ultra.' Its notoriety for brainwashing by drugs, hypnosis, electroshock, and other tortures caused many books to be written about the project, and the U.S. Senate conducted hearings which exposed many of its abusive features. President Gerald Ford appointed a commission headed by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, to correct the CIA's misconduct. There was a widespread anti-establishment view at the time, that here was the fox appointed to guard the hen house." 13. 9.
The Mental Hygiene movement was organized into the World Federation of Mental Health by none other than Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England who, with Hjalmar Schacht, the financial engineer of the Nazi rearmament program and member of the British Round Table, and Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, conspired to precipitate the Great Depression.  Under Adolf Hitler, Hjalmar Schacht was appointed Minister of Economics. [See: Eugenics: All in the Family]
    "The Mental Hygiene movement was organized into the World Federation of Mental Health by Montagu Norman, former Brown Brothers partner and Bank of England Governor. Norman had appointed as the federation's chairman, Brigadier John Rawlings Rees, director of the Tavistock Psychiatric Clinic, chief psychiatrist and psychological warfare expert for the British intelligence services...
    "The world financial crisis led to the merger of the Walker-Harriman bank with Brown Brothers in 1931. Former Brown partner Montagu Norman and his protégé Hjalmar Schacht paid frantic visits to New York that year and the next, preparing the new Hitler regime for Germany." 10.
The interaction between the British, American and German Eugenics societies laid the foundation for implementation of the race purification ideology behind Hitler's Third Reich. In 1912, the First International Congress of Eugenics was held at the University of London. The president of the Congress was Major Leonard Darwin, son of Charles Darwin and one of the first English vice presidents was Sir Winston Churchill, later Prime Minister of England. In 1921, the Second International Congress of Eugenics was held in New York City. The sponsoring committee included Herbert Hoover, later President of the U.S., and the Carnegie Institute of Washington (Rockefeller).  Madison Grant, a director of the American Eugenics Society, was the treasurer. The event was held at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, where Averell Harriman served on the Board of Directors.
In 1932, the Third International Congress on Eugenics elected as its president Dr. Ernst Rudin, a psychiatrist who directed the various branches of the Rockefeller-founded/funded Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany, and designated Rudin president of the worldwide Eugenics Federation. In 1933, Rudin was commissioned by Hitler's Minister of the Interior to write a sterilization law for Germany. Rudin's Law for the Prevention of Hereditary Diseases in Posterity was modeled on statutes already passed in Virginia and other states in the U.S. When Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party came to power in Germany, Ernst Rudin praised Hitler, giving credit to him because "the dream we have cherished for more than thirty years of seeing racial hygiene converted into action has become reality."

    "The most important American political event in those preparations for Hitler was the infamous 'Third International Congress on Eugenics,' held at New York's American Museum of Natural History August 21-23, 1932, supervised by the International Federation of Eugenics Societies. 9 This meeting took up the stubborn persistence of African-Americans and other allegedly 'inferior' and 'socially inadequate' groups in reproducing, expanding their numbers, and amalgamating with others. It was recommended that these 'dangers' to the 'better' ethnic groups and to the 'well-born,' could be dealt with by sterilization or 'cutting off the bad stock' of the 'unfit.'
    "Italy's fascist government sent an official representative. Averell Harriman's sister Mary, director of 'Entertainment' for the Congress, lived down in Virginia fox-hunting country; her state supplied the speaker on 'racial purity,' W.A. Plecker, Virginia commissioner of vital statistics. Plecker reportedly held the delegates spellbound with his account of the struggle to stop race-mixing and inter-racial sex in Virginia.
    "The Congress proceedings were dedicated to Averell Harriman's mother; she had paid for the founding of the race-science movement in America back in 1910, building the Eugenics Record Office as a branch of the Galton National Laboratory in London. She and other Harrimans were usually escorted to the horse races by old George Herbert Walker--they shared with the Bushes and the Farishes a fascination with 'breeding thoroughbreds' among horses and humans.10
    "Averell Harriman personally arranged with the Walker/Bush Hamburg-Amerika Line to transport Nazi ideologues from Germany to New York for this meeting. 11 The most famous among those transported was Dr. Ernst Rudin, psychiatrist at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Genealogy and Demography in Berlin, where the Rockefeller family paid for Dr. Rudin to occupy an entire floor with his eugenics 'research.' Dr. Rudin had addressed the International Federation's 1928 Munich meeting, speaking on 'Mental Aberration and Race Hygiene,' while others (Germans and Americans) spoke on race-mixing and sterilization of the unfit. Rudin had also led the German delegation to the 1930 Mental Hygiene Congress in Washington, D.C.
    "At the Harrimans' 1932 New York Eugenics Congress, Ernst Rudin was unanimously elected president of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies. This was recognition of Rudin as founder of the German Society for Race Hygiene, with his co-founder, Eugenics Federation vice president Alfred Ploetz.
    "As depression-maddened financiers schemed in Berlin and New York, Rudin was now official leader of the world eugenics movement. Components of his movement included groups with overlapping leadership, dedicated to:
-sterilization of mental patients ('mental hygiene societies');
-execution of the insane, criminals and the terminally ill ('euthanasia societies'); and
-eugenical race-purification by prevention of births to parents from 'inferior' blood stocks ('birth control societies').

    "Before the Auschwitz death camp became a household word, these British-American-European groups called openly for the elimination of the 'unfit' by means including force and violence. 12." 11.

Behind the Tavistock Institute and its brainchild, MK-Ultra, was the largesse of the Rockefeller Foundation, "a global instrument for radical social change, using American money and British strategy." British psychiatry: from eugenics to assassination by Anton Chaitkin explains the interest of John D. Rockefeller in psychiatric genetics, which "applied to psychiatry the concepts of eugenics (otherwise known as race purification, race hygiene, or race betterment) developed in London's Galton Laboratory and its offshoot Eugenics Societies in England and America."  Besides Rockefeller and the British Crown, the familes of Warburg and Harriman were the primary funders of eugenics internationally.
"The foundation's 'German centers combined the search for organic signs of mental illness with eugenic projects.... The [Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry in Munich] had initially been endowed with 11 million marks, contributed by Gustav Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach [head of the Krupp steel and arms family] and James Loeb [Paul Warburg's brother-in-law], an expatriate American of the Kuhn-Loeb banking family. Loeb mobilized his American-Jewish friends to support the institute,' and they invited the foundation to reorganize and expand the Munich enterprise. Loeb also continued financing the institute. Loeb's relatives, the Warburgs, owners of Kuhn Loeb bank, were the intimate banking partners of William Rockefeller. Together with him they had set up the Harriman family in big business, using capital supplied by the British royal family's personal banker, Sir Ernst Cassell. The three families, Rockefeller, Warburg, and Harriman, together with British Crown agencies, jointly sponsored much of the social engineering enterprise we shall describe here. The Rockefeller Foundation made an initial grant of $2.5 million in 1925 to the Psychiatric Institute in Munich, gave it $325,000 for a new building in 1928, and continuously sponsored the institute and its Nazi chief Rudin through the Hitler era. The foundation paid for a 1930-35 anthropological survey of the 'eugenically worthwhile population' by Nazi eugenicists Rudin, Verschuer, Eugen Fischer, and others." 12.
Through funding the "research" of Ernst Rudin and Otmar Von Verscher, they also financed the horrific experimentation of Verschuer's medical commandant, Josef Mengle, the "Angel of Death" of Auschwitz whose experiments on children, especially twins, provided scientific data for the Kaiser Wilhem Institute:
"Of the 3000 twins who passed through Mengele's labs, only 200 survived the war. Depending on the type of experiment endured by the twins, they were driven to various labs at Auschwitz or neighboring Birkenau camp. Most received routine blood and x-ray tests, often on a daily basis... Mengele's experiments both physical and psychological; experimental surgeries performed without anesthesia, transfusions of blood from one twin to another, isolation endurance, reaction to various stimuli, injections with lethal germs, sex change operations, the removal of organs and limbs, incestuous impregnations... Mengele injected chemicals into the eyes of children in an attempt to change their eye color... Unfortunately a strict veil of secrecy over the experiments enabled Mengele to do his work more effectively, and 'twins who were subjected to the most grusome procedures took his secrets to their graves.' The full extent of his grusome work will never be known because the records he sent to Dr. Von Verschuer at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute were shipped out 'in two truckloads' and destroyed by the latter. Any remaining notes Mengele carried with him on his escape to South America and those were never found." 13.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2009, 11:59:06 pm »
http://www.ifccarts.org/performance/calendar/2009/perfection/

I'm in high gear getting ready for the opening of my play about forced sterilization and the US eugenics program
Just found out the entire house sold out opening night.
Any Prison Planet Forumers in the area, please come see it.

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 06:56:13 pm »
I think that there are cases where forced sterilization should be implemented.

It is you free-breeders that are the problem.
You want to pass on all your defects.
You buck teeth.
Your cleft pallets.
Your bad eyesight.
Your droopy eyelids.(Ptosis)
You leaky heart valves.
Your sunken chests.
Your bowed legs.
Your poor immune systems.
Your Huntington's disease.
Your schizophrenia.

Yes, humans are the only creature on this Earth that have schizophrenia.
If you have ever known a schizo you would know that it is highly unpleasant.

Humans have over 4000 heritable defects.

Don't you think it is time that we do something about fixing the problem?

Not everyone should reproduce.

I see you all get very emotional about this matter.
You seem to think that something is being taken away from you.
This is a matter where emotion should be turned off and logic and reason should be put to work.
If you want to know where the power lies,
ask whom you may not criticize.

Ignorance is bliss; knowledge is agony.

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 02:18:57 am »
I think that there are cases where forced sterilization should be implemented.

It is you free-breeders that are the problem.
You want to pass on all your defects.
You buck teeth.
Your cleft pallets.
Your bad eyesight.
Your droopy eyelids.(Ptosis)
You leaky heart valves.
Your sunken chests.
Your bowed legs.
Your poor immune systems.
Your Huntington's disease.
Your schizophrenia.

Yes, humans are the only creature on this Earth that have schizophrenia.
If you have ever known a schizo you would know that it is highly unpleasant.

Humans have over 4000 heritable defects.

Don't you think it is time that we do something about fixing the problem?

Not everyone should reproduce.

I see you all get very emotional about this matter.
You seem to think that something is being taken away from you.
This is a matter where emotion should be turned off and logic and reason should be put to work.

well well!
Glad you wrote!  Methinks your legs are looking a bit bowed, OhZone.   It's okay.  It won't hurt a bit.  Sterilization is easy in this day and age, the rate of infection isn't too high.  Why are you backing out the door? Do it for the human race. 

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2009, 07:45:04 am »
I think that there are cases where forced sterilization should be implemented.

It is you free-breeders that are the problem.
You want to pass on all your defects.
You buck teeth.
Your cleft pallets.
Your bad eyesight.
Your droopy eyelids.(Ptosis)
You leaky heart valves.
Your sunken chests.
Your bowed legs.
Your poor immune systems.
Your Huntington's disease.
Your schizophrenia.

Yes, humans are the only creature on this Earth that have schizophrenia.
If you have ever known a schizo you would know that it is highly unpleasant.

Humans have over 4000 heritable defects.

Don't you think it is time that we do something about fixing the problem?

Not everyone should reproduce.

I see you all get very emotional about this matter.
You seem to think that something is being taken away from you.
This is a matter where emotion should be turned off and logic and reason should be put to work.
Prince Harry, is that you? Have you been drinking again?
It doesn't matter who you are. Fact is, the elite look at you as a useful idiot. If you had any idea what you were talking about, you'd known that the middle class white yuppies who think eugenics is good are the real target of eugenics. They need to be dumbed down and destroyed. Eugenics is about the elite eliminating the strong because they pose a threat to their power, and leaving a giant underclass left that poses no threat to them and can be safely disposed. If you come from a middle class family, have a 130 IQ, a college degree and a good job you're the real target. You're a threat. You're not supposed to have children. If you're a woman they'll teach you not to have children. "It's bad for the environment", or "Your career is over when you have children" If you're a man they'll make you afraid of marriage. When you do have children they'll inject them with mercury. The higher the income group the higher the vaccination rate. It's not the poor that get a flu shot every year. It's a war on the middle class. The rest of us are already under control. Now it's your turn. Go ahead and try to get rid of the poor and unfit though. They'll laugh at you when you decide to become their useful idiot. The eugenists hate you more than they do us, because you're too stupid to see what they're doing to you while you're working for them. It's the same with the military.

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 06:16:25 pm »
How about addressing the points I made?
You can't.  You can only get emotion about it and toss out meaningless insults.
Insult is the tribute the mediocre pay to genius.
Thanks.

Why exactly should people pass such defects on to their children?
I think it is child abuse.

Do you have any good arguments for this?
If you want to know where the power lies,
ask whom you may not criticize.

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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2009, 01:22:48 am »
How about addressing the points I made?
You can't.  You can only get emotion about it and toss out meaningless insults.
Insult is the tribute the mediocre pay to genius.
Thanks.

Why exactly should people pass such defects on to their children?
I think it is child abuse.

Do you have any good arguments for this?

Yeah I got one argument,
and I'm sorry to say, for you, it is obvious.

Who decides which defects require forced sterilization.

WHO DECIDES

tell me who decides, specifically, succinctly and completely, genius

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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2009, 01:33:57 am »
Eugenics Quotes: From lofty ideals to highly-centralized population control run by psychopathic maniacs

EUGENICS QUOTES (By no means exhaustive)
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- Theognis of Megara on eugenics and dysgenics, circa 520 B.C.

Sane, if you're reading... I would definitely put Theognis in the category of eugenicists. (I'm referring to the other thread on Plato.)

Theognis 6th c. BC
Κριοὺς μὲν καὶ ὄνους διζήμεθα, Κύρνε, καὶ ἵππους   (182)
  εὐγενέας, καί τις βούλεται ἐξ ἀγαθῶν
πάσασθαι· γῆμαι δὲ κακὴν κακοῦ οὐ μελεδαίνει
  ἐσθλὸς ἀνήρ, ἤν τις χρήματα πολλὰ διδῷ,              (185)
οὐδὲ γυνὴ κακοῦ ἀνδρὸς ἀναίνεται εἶναι ἄκοιτις
  πλουσίου, ἀλλ’ ἀφνεὸν βούλεται ἀντ’ ἀγαθοῦ.
χρήματα μὲν τιμῶσι· καὶ ἐκ κακοῦ ἐσθλὸς ἔγημε
  καὶ κακὸς ἐξ ἀγαθοῦ· πλοῦτος ἔμειξε γένος.
οὕτω μὴ θαύμαζε γένος, Πολυπαΐδη, ἀστῶν             (190)
  μαυροῦσθαι· σὺν γὰρ μίσγεται ἐσθλὰ κακοῖς.

Kyrnus, we seek rams, horses, and asses which are
  Well born, and one wants to choose from the best stock,
A noble man doesn’t mind marrying a base daughter from
  A base  father, if he gives him many possessions,
And a woman does not refuse to be the wife of a base man
  If he is rich, but one wants riches instead of nobility.
They honor riches.  From the base the noble marries
  And the base from the noble.  The rich mingle the races.
Thus do not marvel as the race of your townsmen, Polypaos,
  Is forgotten, for it mingles the noble with the base families.

Οὔ τοι σύμφορόν ἐστι γυνὴ νέα ἀνδρὶ γέροντι·           (456)
  οὐ γὰρ πηδαλίῳ πείθεται ὡς ἄκατος,
οὐδ’ ἄγκυραι ἔχουσιν· ἀπορρήξασα δὲ δεσμά
  πολλάκις ἐκ νυκτῶν ἄλλον ἔχει λιμένα.

A young woman is no good for an old man.
  For like a boat she is not persuaded by the helm,
And her anchor does not hold.  Often breaking her cables
  She holds another haven at night.

Ἐχθαίρω κακὸν ἄνδρα, καλυψαμένη δὲ πάρειμι        (578)
  σμικρῆς ὄρνιθος κοῦφον ἔχουσα νόον. —
Ἐχθαίρω δὲ γυναῖκα περίδρομον ἄνδρα τε μάργον,  (580)
  ὃς τὴν ἀλλοτρίαν βούλετ’ ἄρουραν ἀροῦν.
Ἀλλὰ τὰ μὲν προβέβηκεν, ἀμήχανόν ἐστι γενέσθαι    (582)
  ἀεργά· τὰ δ’ ἐξοπίσω, τῶν φυλακὴ μελέτω.

Woman:  I hate the base man, and as I walk by him
  I veil myself while keeping my mind light like a little bird.
Man: And I hate the woman who gets around and the
  Lustful man who wishes to plow another’s field.
Both: But what has happened, it is not possible to be
  Undone.  And the things to come must be guarded.


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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2009, 01:41:18 am »
contra:
I don't see this as eugenics...

the above quotes advocate procreation (marriage) based on sexual fulfillment, wealth
and refusal of same on promiscuity

a noble man DOESN'T MIND a base woman as long as she's got stuff, and vice versa

the eugenic concept is only used for the animal stock example and then as a contra-indication


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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2009, 02:16:36 am »
contra:
I don't see this as eugenics...

the above quotes advocate procreation (marriage) based on sexual fulfillment, wealth
and refusal of same on promiscuity

a noble man DOESN'T MIND a base woman as long as she's got stuff, and vice versa

the eugenic concept is only used for the animal stock example and then as a contra-indication

Theognis was more of a proponent for boy love than marriage.  These passages (to me) refer to the noble versus the base class and how their intermingling debases the race.  The second passage is the harder one to understand.  The third passage refers to the base behavior of base people.  The last line is telling - "And the things to come must be guarded."  Since the Megarians chose to debase their nobility, Theognis feels that things will change (and they did).

But I hear ya, deconstructmyhouse.  You're welcome to interpret the lines anyway you want.

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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2009, 01:57:03 pm »
Deconstruct, you want to know who decides.

I think the medical record should decide, don't you?
If you want to know where the power lies,
ask whom you may not criticize.

Ignorance is bliss; knowledge is agony.

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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2009, 04:14:19 pm »
Deconstruct, you want to know who decides.

I think the medical record should decide, don't you?

you seem dense...I worry about you.

The medical record has no "brain".  It cannot decide.
There are 2 legged peeeeeepul who read said record and interpret it.
so my question, once again:

who decides?
 

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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2009, 07:37:17 pm »
Obviously people read the record, just like you do.

So what exactly are you worried about?
Do you have some defect in the family that you want to pass on?
You could insist that you want your child to have a cleft palet/hair lip.
Or that buck teeth have been in your family for hundreds of years and you'd like to pass it on.

This is not likely to come to pass in your lifetime, and not likely to be mandatory, so really What ARE you worried about?  Speak up, don't be ambiguous.

You see, you still have a choice, but in the end you and yours will be the losers, as smarter, stronger, healthier, more beautiful people begin to multiply.

Attack the message, not the messenger. 
If you want to know where the power lies,
ask whom you may not criticize.

Ignorance is bliss; knowledge is agony.

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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2009, 08:41:52 pm »
Obviously people read the record, just like you do.

So what exactly are you worried about?
Do you have some defect in the family that you want to pass on?
You could insist that you want your child to have a cleft palet/hair lip.
Or that buck teeth have been in your family for hundreds of years and you'd like to pass it on.

This is not likely to come to pass in your lifetime, and not likely to be mandatory, so really What ARE you worried about?  Speak up, don't be ambiguous.

You see, you still have a choice, but in the end you and yours will be the losers, as smarter, stronger, healthier, more beautiful people begin to multiply.

Attack the message, not the messenger. 


I'm speaking up loud and clear my friend, and ambiguity is not for me: follow the link to this play I just wrote and produced.
http://www.oregonlive.com/performance/index.ssf/2009/02/with_perfection_playwright_see.html

If you made any kind of sense I would enjoy speaking with you more.
If you understood life as something more than a game of appearances, I would enjoy discussing things with you.
As it is, your message is, in a word, despicable and I'm over and out on thread. 

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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2009, 09:33:00 pm »
 
Quote from Oregonlive article:
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The script even includes actual questions from tests administered to determine the intelligence of wards of the state: "What is the color of a sapphire?" "In what state is Cornell University?" Things poor folk would have little reason, much less opportunity, to know. Yet what hung in the balance for them was extreme.



It's all well and good to go on and on about eliminating defects and breeding "beautiful" people  ::), but it's quite another matter when you begin to delve into the real nature of eugenics and see questions such as the ones DMH includes in her play. So I too, am curious to know, Ohzone. How do you feel about the questions above being used in an actual "social fitness" test? Does everybody in the future have to be a luscious, sexy, perfect little sophisticate? Who will create these tests? Somebody who just hates the common rabble and thus is prejudiced from the beginning?

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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2009, 10:40:36 pm »
Obviously people read the record, just like you do.

So what exactly are you worried about?
Do you have some defect in the family that you want to pass on?
You could insist that you want your child to have a cleft palet/hair lip.
Or that buck teeth have been in your family for hundreds of years and you'd like to pass it on.

This is not likely to come to pass in your lifetime, and not likely to be mandatory, so really What ARE you worried about?  Speak up, don't be ambiguous.

You see, you still have a choice, but in the end you and yours will be the losers, as smarter, stronger, healthier, more beautiful people begin to multiply.

Attack the message, not the messenger. 

Oh ZONNED!!!    You are no longer as productive as a younger more vibrant youth.

Is that a Grey hair growing out of your head???     You seem to be burdening society with a large amount of health 'challenges' lately.  We are scheduling you for an appointment with The good Dr. Kevorkian..........He recommends the carousel treatment. ;D
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2009, 10:46:12 pm »
I'm speaking up loud and clear my friend, and ambiguity is not for me: follow the link to this play I just wrote and produced.
http://www.oregonlive.com/performance/index.ssf/2009/02/with_perfection_playwright_see.html


Wow, impressive!

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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2009, 03:49:56 pm »
Destruct, your definition of “eugenics” is obviously not the same as mine.  You are coming from a bad experience with a lot of emotion, which is a poor way to make rational judgments.

Karn, I see no need for social fitness tests. Social fitness can be learned.  Too bad our educational system does not do this.  I'm into physical fitness first.  We are not on the same page here.

Lord Edward, speak for yourself.  Where did I ever say anything about the elderly??
My posts are concerned with preventing heritable defects and selective breeding to produce a better human. The folks here seem to think that is OK to just let defective infants keep coming.  They are likely unaware that over half of those severely disabled prefer to be dead.

As I said, none of you are going to have to worry about being on any kind of list that will improve your offspring.  But maybe you should take note of the consequences of failing to improve them.
When those smarter, stronger, healthier, more beautiful Elites come into power, they are not going to take kindly to all your defective offspring that need special care 24/7 and they will do something about it.
So you might just want to think about adopting some of their strategies.

 

If you want to know where the power lies,
ask whom you may not criticize.

Ignorance is bliss; knowledge is agony.

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« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2009, 08:41:23 am »
We are a low income family. We do everything we can to ensure we're not on the government's dime and will not accept help from the government, but we are a one-income family of modest means.

I don't use this word often but I HATE the thought that some folks think that we shouldn't have children or should stop at one or two children because we're not "rich" or "well to do", or because of my diabetes.  >:(

I have the most beautiful little boy, with a halo of blond curls and the biggest blue eyes. He's only two years old but he's so incredibly intelligent and well-spoken. He can count and say his colors, his knows his mom and dad's "real names" (when he's angry at us he'll call us "Sarah" and "Derek"!  :D), and he will be somebody great one day, if he can keep himself on the right track. And I dare anyone to tell me that I shouldn't of had him or that he shouldn't have children for any reason.

These globalist elites have another thing coming, at least as far as eugenics goes. A mother's love is fierce.  ;)
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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2010, 03:24:05 am »
a "debunker" had this to say when I showed him the quotes, w/ reference to Sanger:

The list of quotes Ben posted originally comes from pro-life web sites that spread lies like "birth control pills let you get pregnant but just kill your babies."
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>> "The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." - Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

"Someone once said the most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it but I reject that view"

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>> "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." - Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

I couldn't find a copy of this book anywhere or a context for the quote, but she often used "race" in reference to "human race" not in the context conspiracy theorists and anti-abortionists want to give her, but that's just my opinion of what she was refering to, without context I, nor you, really know
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"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." - Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

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>> "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock." - Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need" is the heading of the section the next part of the quote is in, in fact it's actually "Eugenic Sterilization: An Urgent Need" As noted right under that, the whole context of the section is: "The following essay is concerned only with sterilization as a voluntary practice, that is, when undertaken with the consent of the patient himself or his statutory guardians." [ http://library.lifedynamics.com/Birth%20Control%20Review/1933-04%20April.pdf ]

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>> "Eugenics is ... the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

Eugenists may remember that not many years ago this program for race regeneratlon was subjected to the cruel ridicule of stupidity and Ignorance. Today //Eugenics is suggested by the most diverse minds as the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.// The most lntransigeant and daring teachers and scientists have lent then support to this great biological interpretation of the human race. The war has emphasized its necessity.

It then goes on to talk about birth control, sexual education, sexual hygene, sexual ethics and so forth. [ http://library.lifedynamics.com/Birth%20Control%20Review/1921-10%20October.pdf ]

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>> "As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ‘unfit’ and the ‘fit,’ admittedly the greatest present menace to
civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation.... On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

This does not appear in any form in the October 1921 issue of Birth Control Review.

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>> "The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

This does not appear in any form in the October 1921 issue of Birth Control Review.

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"Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all." - Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on "The Cruelty of Charity," pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition.

Interesting how you can join together quotes seperated by tens of pages, it really gives you the ability to create whatever context you want. So let's break 'em down:

>> Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying

This does not appear at all.

>> demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism

This does not appear at all.

>> [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant

Prior to this she discusses women having 7 kids, and charities educating them on having an 8th rather than avoiding having an 8th all together, which is in reference to birth control.

She even goes on to say on page 119 "It is customary I believe, to defend philanthropy and charity upon the basis of the sanctity of human life. Yet recent events in the world reveal a curious contradiction in this respect. Human life is sacred as a general Christian principle [Sanger was Catholic BTW] until war is declared."

>> We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all

This quote doesn't appear at all, not even in Chapter 8 where page 189 is.

[ http://library.lifedynamics.com/The%20Pivot%20of%20Civilization/Chapter%2005.pdf ]

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"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind." - Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.

This quote is real, but it was in reference to what we'd call "mentally retarded" today. And even today we DO take steps to help prevent the mentally retarded from breeding. For example in some "homes" for individuals fitting the bill they're taught to masterbate to keep them from having sex with each other, though this is mostly with individuals with Down's and less debilitating retardation.

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"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization." - Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review.

The quote is correct, but the inserts aren't exactly. The first one is not in reference to bad genes, but again to the mentally insane, retarded, and so forth. Further was a time prior to birth control in pill form, and the topics she's going through are in reference to population control amongst the poor to help avoid violence, starvation, disease, and war -- this was a time before those terrible vaccines when typhus would kill off thousands of people (in the west) almost at random. Of course I shouldn't say "population control" because then it doesn't mean "unncessary births" but rather "killing 90% of humanity." Furthermore Sanger didn't believe in abortion, so that limited her options anyway.

[ http://library.lifedynamics.com/Birth%20Control%20Review/1932-04%20April.pdf ]

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Oops! Didn't check your sources!"

Can anyone help me debunk his "debunking".