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Offline David Rothscum

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http://itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13024477
Medvedev spells out five principles of Russian foreign policy

31.08.2008, 19.22


   
   

BOCHAROV RUCHEI (Sochi), August 31 (Itar-Tass) -- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has declared five principles of the Russian foreign policy following the recognition of independent South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

“While implementing the Russian foreign policy, I will be guided with five principles,” Medvedev told three Russian television channels at his Bocharov Ruchei residence in Sochi on Sunday. He had come to Sochi for a number of domestic and international meetings.

First of all, Russia recognizes the supremacy of international legal fundamentals, which define relations between civilized nations, Medvedev said.

“Secondly, the world must be multi-polar. Single polarity is unacceptable,” he said. “Russia cannot accept a world order, in which any decisions will be made by a sole nation, even such a serious one as the United States. Such a world order will be unstable and fraught with conflicts.”

Thirdly, Russia does not want a confrontation with any country, Medvedev said. “Russia does not want isolation. We will develop as much as possible friendly relations with Europe, the United States and other countries of the world,” he said.

The protection of life and dignity of Russian citizens “no matter where they live” is an absolute priority, Medvedev said. “We will also stand up for the interests of our business community abroad. Everyone must know that an aggression will be deterred,” he said.

The fifth principle is Russia’s interests in friendly regions, Medvedev said. “The same as other countries, Russia has areas of privileged interests. These areas house countries, to which we are linked with friendly ties,” he said, adding that he implied not only neighboring countries.

As for the future development of diplomatic relations, Medvedev said, that would depend not only on Russia but also “on our friends, partners and the international community at large.” “They have a choice,” the president remarked.

This is the whole source of the conflict. The Russians want a multi-polar world. The Anglo-American elite want a world ruled by the US. The US is supposed to be the global power, it invades and coups nations that don't go along with the plans, the police of the planet. When everything is in place, the country is absorbed into the global system. This is what Brzezinski writes, this is what the Neo-cons write, it's their goal. Countries like Russia are a problem. They ally with everyone that doesn't go along (Iran, Venezuela, as long as you're bothering the US Russia likes you), and they're strong enough to pose a problem to the United States power. This is why Russia and China are supposed to fall apart, they've set the precedent for countries just suddenly being broken up with Kosovo. This is also why they're building the missile shield. Russia's sole source of power is it's giant nuclear stockpile.

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This isn't the first time they've said this. Read this statement from the Chinese embassy on the New World Order:
http://au.china-embassy.org/eng/xw/t202227.htm
China, Russia issue joint statement on new world order
2005/07/04
    MOSCOW, July 1 (Xinhuanet) -- China and Russia here Friday issued a joint statement on a new world order in the 21st century, setting forth their common stand on major international issues, such as UN reforms, globalization, North-South cooperation, and world economy and trade.

    The statement was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin and visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao after their talks.

    During their talks, the two leaders discussed ways to further enhance the strategic and cooperative partnership between China and Russia, and exchanged views on major regional and international issues.

    The joint statement said the two countries are determined to strengthen their strategic coordination in international affairs and promote peace, stability and prosperity of the world.

    UN REFORMS

    The joint statement says that UN reforms should be aimed at strengthening the world body's leading role in international affairs, improving its efficiency and increasing its potential for dealing with new challenges and threats.

    UN reforms should be based on consensus through consultations, and should fully embody the common interests of the vast number of member countries.

    The United Nations is the world's most comprehensive, representative and authoritative organization, and both its role and function are irreplaceable, said the joint statement on a new world order in the 21st century.

    The United Nations should play a leading role in global affair sand be the core for establishing and executing basic norms of international law, the statement added.

    The statement calls for UN peacekeeping operations to be carried out in accordance with the tenets and principles of the UN charter.

    Resolutions of the UN Security Council must be strictly abided by. Cooperation between the UN on the one hand and regional and subregional organizations on the other should be developed, according to the joint statement.

    The joint statement also calls on the world body to play a bigger role in the study of global economic and development problems.

  MULTILATERALISM

    The joint statement says that countries must be allowed to decide autonomously on their internal affairs while international issues should be solved through dialogue and consultations on the basis of multilateralism.

    The international community should completely renounce the mentality of confrontation and alliance; there should be no pursuit of monopoly or domination of world affairs; and countries of the world should not be divided into a leading camp and a subordinate camp, said the joint statement.

    Every country must be assured of the right to choose its own path of development that fits its national realities, the right to participate in international affairs as an equal, and the right to development on an equal footing, it says.

    Differences and disputes must be solved through peaceful means rather than through unilateralism or coercion. There should be no use or threatened use of force, says the joint statement.

    Only on the basis of universally recognized tenents and norms of international law, and under an impartial and rational world order, can problems facing mankind be solved, says the document.

    All countries should strictly observe the principles of mutual respect for each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit, and peaceful coexistence, it says.

    The joint statement believes that the world is undergoing a historic change. The establishment of a new world order will be a long and complicated process, it says.

    The central task of mankind in the 21st century is to safeguard peace, stability and security for the whole mankind, and to realize full-scale coordinated development on the basis of equality, maintenance of sovereignty, mutual respect, mutual benefit and ensurance of good development prospects for future generations.

    Hu arrived here on Thursday for a state visit. He will also visit Kazakhstan and Britain, where he will attend the G8 plus five summit.

NEW SECURITY FRAMEWORK

    The joint statement calls on the international community to establish a new security framework on the basis of mutual trust, mutual benefit, equality and cooperation.

    The framework should have the universally recognized norms of international relations as its political foundation, and mutually beneficial cooperation and common prosperity as its economic foundation, says the joint statement.

    The establishment of this framework should be based on the equal security rights of all nations while dialogue, consultation and negotiation on an equal footing should be the means for settling conflicts and maintaining peace, the joint statement says.

    China and Russia support efforts to maintain global strategic stability, and the multilateral process of establishing legal systems on arms control, disarmament and non-proliferation, it says.

    The two sides will work together to put the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty into effect as soon as possible and to push for the universality and effectiveness of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (INT), the Biological Weapons Convention and the Convention on the Banning of Chemical Weapons (CWC).

    They also call for the peaceful use of outer space, and voice opposition to weapons deployment and arm races in outer space. They push for relevant international legislation to this end.

    The two leaders believe that in face of new threats and challenges, further effective measures should be taken to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) as well as their carriers and relevant materials, according to the joint statement.

    The joint statement says the two sides have decided to cooperate more closely in related international organizations and forums and expand cooperation with other like-minded countries. The issue of proliferation of WMDs should be resolved through political, diplomatic and international cooperation within the framework of international law, says the joint statement.

    The two sides think that a UN-led global system should be set up to deal with new threats and challenges on the basis of the UN Charter and international law, it says.

    The joint statement says regional integration is an important character in the development of the current international situation.

    Open, non-exclusive regional organizations are playing a positive role in shaping a new world order.

    The two countries appeal for the promotion of further economic cooperation in regional integration and for the establishment of security cooperation mechanisms.

    They also voice support for regional organizations to set up ties with each other and produce an atmosphere of mutual trust and cooperation, the joint statement says.

  ATTENTION TO GAP OF DISPARITY

    All countries should have an equal opportunity to enjoy the profits of globalization in such fields as economy, society, science, technology, information and culture, said the joint statement, calling for mutually beneficial cooperation and common development.

    Developed countries and developing ones should make efforts to eliminate discrimination in economic relations, and narrow the gap of disparity between the rich and the poor, says the joint statement.

    The international community should formulate a comprehensive economic and trade regime acceptable to all, through negotiation on an equal footing. Pressure and sanctions should not be used to force a country into unilaterally making economic concessions, it says.

    It also calls for respect for the history and traditions of those countries with diverse ethnic groups and their efforts to maintain national unity. Attempts to encourage secession or incite ethnic hatred within a country should not be accepted.

    Diversity in cultures and civilizations should not be the source of conflict, but rather resources from which all countries can learn.

    Different historic backgrounds, cultures, social and political systems, values and modes of development should not be used as pretext for interference in other countries' internal affairs, says the document.

    The Chinese president arrived in Moscow Thursday for a state visit, the first leg of his three-nation tour, which will also take him to Kazakhstan and the United Kingdom.

    In Kazakhstan, he will attend a Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit. Then he will fly to Scotland for an informal meeting between leaders of the Group of Eight industrialized countries and five developing nations -- China, India, Brazil, South Africa and Mexico. Enditem

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How does this contradict what our elite want?
Let me give you the quotes, this is not what they had in mind. The odd thing is, that China and Russia seem to be doing exactly what Brzezinski is afraid of, I seriously believe that their politicians may have read his book and used it to determine how to counter American global hegemony. You can look this up yourself here:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119973.pdf
Let's start with the quotes, you will see that what has happened is their biggest fear, and they now have to look for a way to destroy Russia and China:

"The ultimate objective of American policy should be benign
and visionary: to shape a truly cooperative global community, in
keeping with long-range trends and with the fundamental interests
of humankind. But in the meantime, it is imperative that no
Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and
thus also of challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive
and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of
this book." (p. xiv, page 9 on the pdf)" Read; America must create the New World Order, and to do this we must make sure that no great power emerges that could stand in our way.

"Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global power." (p.55, 63 in the pdf)

"Potentially, the most dangerous scenario would be a grand
coalition of China, Russia, and perhaps Iran, an "antihegemonic"
coalition united not by ideology but by complementary grievances.
It would be reminiscent in scale and scope of the challenge
once posed by the Sino-Soviet bloc, though this time China would
likely be the leader and Russia the follower. Averting this contingency,
however remote it may be, will require a display of U.S.
geostrategic skill on the western, eastern, and southern perimeters
of Eurasia simultaneously."
(!!!)
-Page 55, (63 in the pdf)

I can not stress enough that people read the last quote, and understand it's significance.

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The NWO is not happy and the recent British "NWO is dead" articles are very shadey. I dont know whats going on with those but if that is Russia's stance i would have to 100% agree with it and i'm sure any person educated even a bit on geopolitics would too. Recently with these British articles and U.S. Bashing it looks as if they are setting the stage for another WW2 but this time we're the evil ones  ???

Either way I'm glad Russia made that statement because it will appeal to any rational human being that understands what causes tyranny and war.


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will require a display of U.S. geostrategic skill on the western, eastern, and southern perimeters of Eurasia simultaneously."

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who's side are we suppose to take now

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i always went for kamchatka

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http://itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13024477
Medvedev spells out five principles of Russian foreign policy

31.08.2008, 19.22


   
   

BOCHAROV RUCHEI (Sochi), August 31 (Itar-Tass) -- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has declared five principles of the Russian foreign policy following the recognition of independent South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

“While implementing the Russian foreign policy, I will be guided with five principles,” Medvedev told three Russian television channels at his Bocharov Ruchei residence in Sochi on Sunday. He had come to Sochi for a number of domestic and international meetings.

First of all, Russia recognizes the supremacy of international legal fundamentals, which define relations between civilized nations, Medvedev said.

“Secondly, the world must be multi-polar. Single polarity is unacceptable,” he said. “Russia cannot accept a world order, in which any decisions will be made by a sole nation, even such a serious one as the United States. Such a world order will be unstable and fraught with conflicts.”

Thirdly, Russia does not want a confrontation with any country, Medvedev said. “Russia does not want isolation. We will develop as much as possible friendly relations with Europe, the United States and other countries of the world,” he said.

The protection of life and dignity of Russian citizens “no matter where they live” is an absolute priority, Medvedev said. “We will also stand up for the interests of our business community abroad. Everyone must know that an aggression will be deterred,” he said.

The fifth principle is Russia’s interests in friendly regions, Medvedev said. “The same as other countries, Russia has areas of privileged interests. These areas house countries, to which we are linked with friendly ties,” he said, adding that he implied not only neighboring countries.

As for the future development of diplomatic relations, Medvedev said, that would depend not only on Russia but also “on our friends, partners and the international community at large.” “They have a choice,” the president remarked.

This is the whole source of the conflict. The Russians want a multi-polar world. The Anglo-American elite want a world ruled by the US. The US is supposed to be the global power, it invades and coups nations that don't go along with the plans, the police of the planet. When everything is in place, the country is absorbed into the global system. This is what Brzezinski writes, this is what the Neo-cons write, it's their goal. Countries like Russia are a problem. They ally with everyone that doesn't go along (Iran, Venezuela, as long as you're bothering the US Russia likes you), and they're strong enough to pose a problem to the United States power. This is why Russia and China are supposed to fall apart, they've set the precedent for countries just suddenly being broken up with Kosovo. This is also why they're building the missile shield. Russia's sole source of power is it's giant nuclear stockpile.
Putin and Medvedev are using the NWO's tatics against them and with that joint statment with China it seems they have the foundations of a alliance to combat the globalist agenda.
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The NWO is not happy and the recent British "NWO is dead" articles are very shadey.

You wouldn't happen to have any links would you, I've not seen these..
Why would anyone, who considers their child the most precious thing in the world, let a doctor, they don't even know or trust, inject their child with a substance they know nothing about ?? Just because a government, who they know doesn't give a shit about them, says it's safe.. THAT is insanity

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who's side are we suppose to take now
Whichever side we choose, we still lose. Let's imagine the US loses the war, and the Chinese and Russians win. The Chinese and the Russians want to build a globalised world as well, and they want it done by the UN. The same people that run the US run the UN. The US is run by the Rockefeller led CFR, but the UN itself was created by the Rockefellers. The first thing the Rockefellers did when they created the UN was to send all their eugenics buddies to these population control programs of the UN. It doesn't matter which group wins, we lose.

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who's side are we suppose to take now

"We The People"


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From my perspective, nobody is realizing the HUGE, I mean HUGE role played by the domestic alternative media in the US (a.k.a. domestic Al-Qaeda sympathizers, neo-communist pro-Russian agents, whatever) in actually making the C.H.A.N.G.E. in the World Order resulting out of the recent Georgia conflict. The Truthers might not be at the helm of nuclear submarines or ICBMs, but their role has been tremendously effective in stalling the anglo-american NWO mafia.

In fact, Putin\'s Russia was not the only factor at play here. Besides the numerous \"mistakes\" of the NWO\'s rampage at home and abroad, the rag-tag bands of toofers and hillbillies have used their underfunded HUMINT, OSINT and TECHINT to counter the massively funded NWO war machine and helped stall their utopia.

I would say that the factors

1. Anglo-American NWO\'s own \"mistakes\"(particularly the million deaths for NWO demoncracy)
2. Russia\'s military response, taking into consideration their nuclear arsenal and their willingness to use it
3. RagTag CounterIntelligence activities, particularly at home.
4. Patriots within the NWO system.

With the help of the Internet, the ragtaggers have staged multiple attacks using guerrilla tactics everywhere, on the streets, on the net, on radio, etc and have successfully destroyed the NWO\'s main weapon: False Flag Operations. Imagine this same scenario in the sixties with some other \"rogue\" country, not necessarily the Russia of that day since the bipolarity then was much under their control, unlike today.

Truthers should sit back for a moment or two and let the endorphine run though every vein of their being as they savor yet another victory, another nail in the NWO\'s coffin.
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who\'s side are we suppose to take now

The side of all those who stand for Truth and Justice.

The truthers\' objective should be to gain control of their own lives and protect their liberty, starting from local government upwards.

The NWO\'s objective is to either take over powerful nations or weaken them.

We want a powerful America which is NOT used and abused by foreign occupiers.

We should try to stall the NWO\'s attempt at turning occupied America into a police state, which will then be used to maim and kill all those who oppose their agenda, both at home and abroad.

Now that the anglo-american NWO agenda has been somehow discredited and stalled, we should use every minute while the enemy is on the ground before they regain consciousness and launch another wave of attack.

The local councils should be wrested from NWO minions! The process of getting America back should be intensified!


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Every time i play Risk The first thing i do is Control the middle east. it has the best Strategic point to conquer the world.

Why do you think we're there?
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Every time i play Risk The first thing i do is Control the middle east. it has the best Strategic point to conquer the world.

Nah, amass an army in Australia and hold them off at Indonesia. Only give little squabbles with your other territories. Spring forth from Indonesia, New Guinea, and Oz and you win!  ;D
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The EU are nothing but hypocrits!

EU, Dependent on Russian Energy, Balks at Georgia War Sanctions

By James G. Neuger

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aOEc0FqqXxHg&refer=uk

Sept. 2 (Bloomberg) -- European Union leaders refused to impose sanctions on Russia over the invasion of Georgia, acknowledging their reliance on Russian oil and gas at a time of faltering economic growth.

EU leaders took the symbolic step yesterday of suspending talks over expanded trade ties with Russia, fearing that tougher measures would expose the energy-dependent bloc to Russian retaliation.

Russia is the 27-nation bloc's main supplier of oil and gas and third-biggest trading partner, giving it leverage at a time when the European economy threatens to tip into recession. Europe's determination to maintain business links also undercuts U.S. efforts to line up allies against the reassertive Russia.

``What, beyond rhetoric, do the Europeans have to offer?'' said George Friedman, chief executive of Stratfor, a geopolitical-risk analysis company in Austin, Texas. ``How do you have a diplomatic initiative with a group of Europeans whose primary goal is to avoid a confrontation?''

EU governments yesterday put the trade talks, under way since June, on hold until Russia makes good on pledges to end the military occupation of parts of Georgia.

``We unambiguously condemn Russia's disproportionate reaction, and we are conscious of our responsibility to maintain dialogue with our Russian neighbors,'' French President Nicolas Sarkozy told a news conference yesterday after chairing an EU summit in Brussels.

Backed by U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown, eastern European governments overcame initial resistance by France and Germany to freezing the talks, launched after 18 months of inner-EU wrangling over what kind of deal to seek from Russia.

Unity

``You have an EU of 27 members showing unity of purpose,'' Brown said.

Stopping the negotiations might work to Russia's advantage, enabling Moscow to play European governments off against each other in energy and business dealings.

``I am not inclined to overdramatize the results of the summit,'' Vladimir Chizhov, Russian ambassador to the EU, told Interfax. ``But if they want to re-evaluate relations with Russia, then we'd have to do that as well.''

The EU said it is counting on diplomatic isolation to force Russia to pull troops back from Georgian territory and prevent the Moscow leadership from bullying other ex-Soviet republics such as Ukraine.

``I'm against any kind of escalation,'' Austrian Chancellor Alfred Gusenbauer said. Russia and Europe have ``strategic reasons for reasonable cooperation.''

Cease-Fire

Sarkozy, holder of the EU's six-month presidency, will lead an EU delegation to Moscow on Sept. 8 to demand that Russia pull back behind the pre-war lines. He defended the cease-fire that he brokered, which was criticized for vague language that allowed the Russian army to remain on Georgian soil. Russia calls its troops in Georgia ``peacekeepers'' and says they are in a buffer zone allowed by the cease-fire.

Russia went on to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, another breakaway Georgian republic. The EU condemned the attempt to dismember Georgia and urged the rest of the world not to recognize the two separatist regions.

Opposition to the scaling back of economic ties is widely shared across the western European countries at the heart of the EU, led by Germany, the country with the deepest business connections to Russia.

Europe's weak hand in confronting Russia ``could lead to a trans-Atlantic rift, but it would be a pointless rift because both sides are equally powerless,'' Jan Techau, an EU and security expert at the German Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin, said in an interview.

Growing Clout

In a sign of their growing clout within the EU, eastern European countries once under the Soviet yoke pushed through a harder line. Some 53 percent of Poles favor imposing sanctions on Russia, with only 30 percent against, according to an Aug. 30 survey published today in the Dziennik newspaper.

The EU toughened up its declaration yesterday in a way that ``definitely moved toward Poland's position,'' Polish President Lech Kaczynski said. The EU eyed a Nov. 14 summit with Russia as a deadline for Russian leaders to recommit to good neighborly relations.

Still, no government leader called openly for sanctions against Russia, a sign of Europe's addiction to Russian energy. Russia delivers over 40 percent of Europe's gas imports, a figure that will rise to 60 percent in 2030, the European Commission says. A third of Europe's imported oil now comes from Russia.

Energy Markets

``Russians need our energy markets and we need Russian energy -- it's as simple as that,'' Finnish Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb said in a Bloomberg Television interview.

Russia said it won't let up until Georgia ousts its president, Mikheil Saakashvili, who has sought closer ties with the U.S. and is bidding for Georgia to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney departs today for Azerbaijan and Georgia, which are crucial to the westward flow of energy via a corridor that bypasses Russia. He also will stop in Ukraine, whose desire to join NATO is opposed by Russia.

Indicating that regime change in Georgia is the ultimate goal, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called on Russian television for an arms embargo on ``this regime until a different authority turns Georgia into a normal state.''

EU leaders pledged to help repair the damage to Georgia's infrastructure, plus more humanitarian aid on top of at least 14 million euros ($20 million) delivered already. The EU will also organize a donors' conference.

``We are very encouraged by the firm statement,'' Georgian Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze said in Brussels yesterday.

The bloc also promised to establish a free-trade zone with Georgia and to make it easier for Georgian citizens to travel to Europe. It didn't set a timetable.
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One of the едуцатион forum participants to learn from Dagestan Russian PM Medvedev set himself a question: "Why and teachers receive a Teacher Salary in the 15 th. rub...".

Medvedev answer teachers that their salary is not so big because job of policemen in Dagestan is more dangerous. Teachers may teach
lessons after scoool.

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