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Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« on: August 22, 2008, 11:57:39 pm »
CNN has just announced Obama has chosen Senator Joe Biden for his Vice Presidential ticket

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjQ3MzdkMWEyMmZhNDdhNmQ0NzU3YTA2MmI5YmM3NzM=


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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 11:58:59 pm »
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 12:07:51 am »
They just announced the same thing on my local NBC channel on the scroll, I wonder what all the Obama supporters going to think about this.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 12:10:17 am »
They just announced the same thing on my local NBC channel on the scroll, I wonder what all the Obama supporters going to think about this.

The Obamabots won't care. Even if Obama chose Satan himself as his running mate, the Obamabots would still faun over him.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 12:14:31 am »
oh joy, more of the same.  Biden voted for the war in Iraq.  He has passed legislation against drugs and helped establish the drug Czar position.  He supports the Bush administration just like Pelosi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden


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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 12:20:43 am »
in mob parlance, the bag man

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 12:22:08 am »
First thing I did when I heard about Biden being selected was I went and checked his voting record. Biden:

-- Voted in favor of the Iraq War
-- Voted for the Patriot Act as well as the Patriot Act Reauthorization
-- Voted for the Real ID Act
-- Voted "yes" on both immigration blanket amnesty bills, in 2006 and 2007

ON TOP OF THAT, he's a high-level CFR member and good friends with Leslie Gelb, who sits on the CFR's Board of Directors and a regular Bilderberg Group attendee.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 12:23:53 am »
Joe Biden = CFR = NWO

2008 Presidential Candidates Who Support the New World Order

Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4KFjIwpJWs

IDENTIFY THE ENEMIES OF AMERICA

What Presidential Candidates are part of the Council on Foreign Relations CFR?
What are they trying to accomplish?

Barack Obama- CFR/Muslim (D)
John McCain- CFR (R)
Hillary Clinton- CFR (D)
John Edwards- CFR (D)
Joe Biden- CFR (D)
Fred Thompson- CFR (D)
Rudy Giuliani- CFR (R)
Mitt Romney- CFR (R)
Jim Gilmore- CFR (R)
Newt Gingrich- CFR (R)
Chris Dodd- CFR (D)
Bill Richardson- CFR (D)

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Ron Paul
http://campaignforliberty.com

Denis Kucinich
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Mike Gravel
Tom Tancredo

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 12:26:49 am »
So Hitlary is completely out of the game? I think "fate promises more twists before this drama unfolds... completely"

That reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from the Mark Wahlberg movie "Shooter", where he's talking to the gun guru in Tennessee:

"World ain't what it seems is it, Gunny? You keep that in mind. The moment you think you got it figured, you're wrong."

Too true for this situation.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 12:29:29 am »
i'm kinda shocked a  BIT.. but it may make some sense....I just brought up his wiki bio im gonna post  a few quotes.

"Biden is also a long-time member and current chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations............Biden again assumed the top spot on the committee in 2007. His efforts to combat hostilities in the Balkans in the 1990s brought national attention and influenced presidential policy: traveling repeatedly to the region, he made one meeting famous by calling Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic a "war criminal." He consistently argued for lifting the arms embargo, training Bosnian Muslims, investigating war crimes and administering NATO air strikes. Biden's subsequent "lift and strike" resolution was instrumental in convincing President Bill Clinton to use military force in the face of systematic human rights violations.[ citation needed ] Biden has also called on Libya to release political prisoner Fathi Eljahmi."

Comment... Brizenski written all over that. So it defintely fits in with Zbig there. the rest of the main page just says how he voted for the war just like every other jackass on capitol hill. He supports cutting Iraq into 3 pieces (Alex stated that was the goal years ago)

"In November 2006, Biden and Leslie Gelb, President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, released a comprehensive strategy to end sectarian violence in Iraq. Rather than continuing the present approach or withdrawing, the plan calls for "a third way": federalizing Iraq and giving Kurds, Shiites, and Sunnis "breathing room" in their own regions."

Comment... There's joe working hand and hand with CFR to cut iraq into 3 pieces coincidently what htey call "a third way". The Third way group of the senate constisting of McCain, FeinStein, Lieberman and bayhe the other guy Obama was considering is a fascist approach they oppose free market and socialism. I havent linked Joe to this coalition but its just funny he called it the third way. Anyway Biden is known for touting his "Extensive" foreign relations experience.

Im gonna dig into his past right now posting this now.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 12:40:21 am »
I'm shocked a bit...  I was under the impression Hillary was pre-chosen...

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 12:44:01 am »
So Hitlary is completely out of the game? I think "fate promises more twists before this drama unfolds... completely"

I couldn't agree more...Hillary is waiting in the shadows.
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 12:52:57 am »
Very good info on Biden, I must admit I haven't done my homework on him, he's just a natural to me, I looked at him and he reeked of corruption.  Like Bush does when he has that sinister grin on his face at a press conference. But I know I have heard Alex mention Biden numerous times on the show, but the info posted here is a great bio on this guy.  But this is my question, do they have the balls to let Hillary run with McCain?  I dream of them letting Hillary run with McCain and seeing how the general public would react, would that wake them the hell up!  

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 12:57:13 am »
That reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from the Mark Wahlberg movie "Shooter", where he's talking to the gun guru in Tennessee:

"World ain't what it seems is it, Gunny? You keep that in mind. The moment you think you got it figured, you're wrong."

Too true for this situation.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 01:19:55 am »
How the hell did u beat me?
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2008, 01:47:41 am »
Disney Land
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/23/biden.democrat.vp.candidate/index.html

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Joe Biden = CFR = NWO

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2008, 03:00:49 am »
The Obamabots won't care. Even if Obama chose Satan himself as his running mate, the Obamabots would still faun over him.

I thought Obamanation was Satan?

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2008, 03:31:26 am »
I heard on the news here before the VP candidate was chosen that the campaign will unleash the Vice Presidential candidate so that Obama can continue campaigning as per usual.

So Biden is the attack dog; watch for gaffes, insults, new world order statements.

And most importantly don't be suckered in by faux controversies in which there WILL be quite a few already scripted.



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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2008, 03:42:09 am »
I thought Obamanation was Satan?




LOL! Somewhat true nowadays with all fluoridated towns, even mine now!! Horay! As of 3 months ago.
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2008, 05:09:44 am »
Its pretty interesting how Hilary seems to have been overlooked for this election when lots of good judges were pretty sure it'd be her.

This could be 1 of a few scenarios..

1. Something will "happen" between now and the election that puts Hilary back in the picture.
2. Hilary has simply been usurped by the new kid on the block. Lets face it while the Clintons are clearly heavily connected we're still talking about gophers here, its possible that those with the real power think somebody like Obama would be more effective at this time. Certainly if it was Hilary it could wake people up the the 2 party dictatorship that is US politics, with 2 families controlling the presidency for over 20 years.

Somebody like Obama will allow this scam to be played 1 more time with many black people for example now back into the 2 party system because they have a black candidate to vote for.

Theres also the possibility with so many people now putting their faith in Obama if something did happen to him we could be looking at some pretty serious race riots that could be used as an excuse to bring in martial law?

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2008, 05:18:19 am »
These running mates in the war on terror, have a certain familiar ring to it.

Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden
 Barack Hussein Obama, Joe Biden

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2008, 01:47:54 pm »
Here is the CFR goal:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9903/sovereignty_and_globalisation.html

Sovereignty and globalisation

Author:  Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations

February 17, 2006
Project Syndicate

The world’s 190-plus states now co-exist with a larger number of powerful non-sovereign and at least partly (and often largely) independent actors, ranging from corporations to non-government organisations (NGOs), from terrorist groups to drug cartels, from regional and global institutions to banks and private equity funds. The sovereign state is influenced by them (for better and for worse) as much as it is able to influence them. The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded.
As a result, new mechanisms are needed for regional and global governance that include actors other than states. This is not to argue that Microsoft, Amnesty International, or Goldman Sachs be given seats in the United Nations General Assembly, but it does mean including representatives of such organisations in regional and global deliberations when they have the capacity to affect whether and how regional and global challenges are met.
Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function.
This is already taking place in the trade realm. Governments agree to accept the rulings of the World Trade Organisation because on balance they benefit from an international trading order, even if a particular decision requires that they alter a practice that is their sovereign right to carry out.
Some governments are prepared to give up elements of sovereignty to address the threat of global climate change. Under one such arrangement, the Kyoto Protocol, which runs through 2012, signatories agree to cap specific emissions. What is needed now is a successor arrangement in which a larger number of governments, including the United States, China and India, accept emission limits or adopt common standards because they recognise that they would be worse off if no country did.
All of this suggests that sovereignty must be redefined if states are to cope with globalisation.
At its core, globalisation entails the increasing volume, velocity and importance of flows within and across borders of people, ideas, greenhouse gases, goods, dollars, drugs, viruses, emails, weapons, and a good deal else, challenging one of sovereignty’s fundamental principles: the ability to control what crosses borders in either direction. Sovereign states increasingly measure their vulnerability not to one another, but to forces beyond their control.
Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary.
This was demonstrated by the American and world reaction to terrorism. Afghanistan’s Taliban government, which provided access and support to al-Qaeda, was removed from power. Similarly, America’s preventive war against an Iraq that ignored the UN and was thought to possess weapons of mass destruction showed that sovereignty no longer provides absolute protection. Imagine how the world would react if some government were known to be planning to use or transfer a nuclear device or had already done so. Many would argue correctly that sovereignty provides no protection for that state.
Necessity may also lead to reducing or even eliminating sovereignty when a government, whether from a lack of capacity or conscious policy, is unable to provide for the basic needs of its citizens. This reflects not simply scruples, but a view that state failure and genocide can lead to destabilising refugee flows and create openings for terrorists to take root.
The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation’s intervention in Kosovo was an example where a number of governments chose to violate the sovereignty of another government (Serbia) to stop ethnic cleansing and genocide. By contrast, the mass killing in Rwanda a decade ago and now in Darfur, Sudan, demonstrate the high price of judging sovereignty to be supreme and thus doing little to prevent the slaughter of innocents.
Our notion of sovereignty must therefore be conditional, even contractual, rather than absolute. If a state fails to live up to its side of the bargain by sponsoring terrorism, either transferring or using weapons of mass destruction, or conducting genocide, then it forfeits the normal benefits of sovereignty and opens itself up to attack, removal or occupation. The diplomatic challenge for this era is to gain widespread support for principles of state conduct and a procedure for determining remedies when these principles are violated.
The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalisation, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy.
The basic idea of sovereignty, which still provides a useful constraint on violence between states, needs to be preserved. But the concept needs to be adapted to a world in which the main challenges to order come from what global forces do to states and what governments do to their citizens, rather than from what states do to one another.

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2008, 01:59:13 pm »
Biden really is even worse than Obama. :-\

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2008, 02:07:16 pm »
The man who wrote that isnt as intelligent as he tries to make himself sound. You can pick up on the subtleties in it where you can see how he attempted to use a more eloquent or intelligent vocabulary than he s comfortable with;
and it doesnt quite read like he has as strong a grasp on the language as he would like us to think. Hes faking smart, in other words. Pisses me off.

Does anyone else notice that?

Its also rife will bullshite. CFR SCUM
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2008, 02:57:35 pm »
Joe Biden = CFR = NWO

2008 Presidential Candidates Who Support the New World Order

Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4KFjIwpJWs

IDENTIFY THE ENEMIES OF AMERICA

What Presidential Candidates are part of the Council on Foreign Relations CFR?
What are they trying to accomplish?

Barack Obama- CFR/Muslim (D)
John McCain- CFR (R)
Hillary Clinton- CFR (D)
John Edwards- CFR (D)
Joe Biden- CFR (D)
Fred Thompson- CFR (D)
Rudy Giuliani- CFR (R)
Mitt Romney- CFR (R)
Jim Gilmore- CFR (R)
Newt Gingrich- CFR (R)
Chris Dodd- CFR (D)
Bill Richardson- CFR (D)

Who Opposes the CFR?

Chuck Baldwin
http://www.baldwin08.com

Ron Paul
http://campaignforliberty.com

Denis Kucinich
http://kucinich.us/index.php

Mike Gravel
Tom Tancredo

CFR Stated Goal
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9903/sovereignty_and_globalisation.html
Is there something wrong with being a muslim?

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2008, 03:04:25 pm »
 :-\  People.. please remember that the 2 party system is rigged no matter who the candidates are.   It will always be the same players behind the scenes.

Nothing new.. just the same old bullsh*t, but sold with different packaging, and marketing points.

Don't take my word for it.  Look up, and learn the real power players.  The people who have been inside the D.C. elite for decades despite the multiple administrations moving in and out.

case in point:

William the Bloody Kristol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kristol

Watch this Turd of an American react to the truth...


This was the Iraq Wars biggest cheerleader, and his reaction is "We knew the all volunteer military was too small for the task."

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2008, 03:35:08 pm »
Bobby Kennedy comes to mind. Oh what a coincidence.. didn't she use his name is something she said?

Yes that is interesting since in 1987 Biden plagiarized some of Bobby Kennedy's speeches he made.

This about sums it up for me:

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2008, 08:33:24 pm »
Doesn't Biden look like a gangster to you guys?
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2008, 09:14:54 pm »
Is there something wrong with being a muslim?

Of course not, but if Obama is actually a Muslim, then he's obviously been lying about it, which can never be a good thing.
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2008, 09:36:08 pm »





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Let it loose; it will defend itself.-

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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2008, 10:20:04 pm »


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE

Here's a short vid from SHALOM TV ....
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2008, 10:24:12 pm »
First thing I did when I heard about Biden being selected was I went and checked his voting record. Biden:

-- Voted in favor of the Iraq War
-- Voted for the Patriot Act as well as the Patriot Act Reauthorization
-- Voted for the Real ID Act
-- Voted "yes" on both immigration blanket amnesty bills, in 2006 and 2007

ON TOP OF THAT, he's a high-level CFR member and good friends with Leslie Gelb, who sits on the CFR's Board of Directors and a regular Bilderberg Group attendee.

In other words, another puppet who dutifully does the bidding of the "real owners" of this country.
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2008, 11:55:14 pm »
Biden = douche-bag.
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Re: Twist of fate, Obama chooses Joe Biden As VP
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2008, 03:45:42 am »
What a great joke by the arrogant Illuminati
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