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the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« on: June 06, 2008, 11:41:42 am »
[In the following interview, Estulin says he is working on a book about it, but, from what I know, he has become quite pessimistic about all this, so I'm not sure if it's going to be published... - "portuguese anarchist"]


"the Bilderbergers. Behind this secret society is a contemporary network of powerful private merchant-banking interests of medieval Venetian financier oligarchical model known as fondi. British and Dutch East India Companies, the forerunners of the Council of the 300 and the Bilderbergers are examples of these private merchant banks. Their final objective is a post-industrial society. Actually, their real name is Synarchists. «Synarchism» is used to define a new concept of political alliances by an international brotherhood of financiers and industrialists through a unity of the socialists and the anarchists on fascist principles."

--- Daniel Estulin, interviewed by a Brazilian newspaper

(http://www.danielestulin.com/ciacms/media/pdf/pdf29112006-67516.pdf)





"It is essentially a private criminal enterprise which stretches across the globe, operating through a network of government agencies, private institutions and both publically owned and private corporations and financial institutions. Now this extended network, which is called the fondi, stretches all the way back to the Middle Ages. Again the fondi is the combined wealth of these oligarchical families. It is concentrated in your tangible things: land, oil, raw materials, precious minerals and metals. And by controlling the financial trade of these items, these family fathers set up fondis that are pooled together for maximum effect and deployed through a number of financial institutions, which hide their origins from the unsuspecting public. At the heart of the fondi system, you have the powerful merchant private banks such as the Rothschild banks. And even more powerful than Rothschild is the Lazard bank. One of the reasons that the Bilderbergers have never been able to discredit me is that historically I can show you that what today is called the Bilderberg Club can be traced back in time to the Venetian Black Nobility, 500 years ago."

--- Daniel Estulin, interviewed by a Barcelonian journalist

(http://barcelonadiary-lishman.blogspot.com/2008/02/interview-with-estulin.html)





"One such Venetian Black Nobility family is the Guelphs, from which the present Queen of England, Elizabeth II comes."

--- Dr. John Coleman, "The Black Nobility Unmasked Worldwide"

(http://www.coleman300.com/white.htm)

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 03:03:45 pm »
http://barcelonadiary-lishman.blogspot.com/2008/06/missing-part-of-interview-with-daniel.html

"Estulin - Again another thing about the Bilderbergers is that I can trace who these people are today back to the Venetian Black Nobility. We often hear about the influences of the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, but these people are merely your typical lackeys when you actually look at it. They are the bottom of the totem pole. If you’re looking at the powerful people, you can talk about the House of Braganza; you talk about the House of Orange and the House of Hapsburg. These people have unimaginable wealth. You measure it not in billions but in trillions of dollars. I have a document from the Krupp family of Germany. One banking statement, just one account on one day, and there’s a 112 trillion dollars on that account. That’s the kind of money that the Bill Gates of this world… well, they’re not even lackeys. They are nothing, because again what they have is just pocket change for these people.

"One of the reasons that the Bilderbergers have never been able to discredit me is that historically I can show you that today what is called the Bilderberg group goes back in time to the Venetian Black nobility – to the royal houses and lineages of the European oligarchical families. For example, talking about your Queen, one such family is the Guelphs [from which Elizabeth] the Queen of England comes. I found reference to this family by cross referencing with names like Ethico, Henry, Rudolph and Azoll. I found those references after spending more than two and a half years in the national library of Florence - literally living there - going through five-hundred-year-old documents. Queen Victoria, she comes from the house of Este-Guelph. The name Este comes from the name Marquis of Este of Venice, which is also known as the House of Albert Azoll. Now this line is connected to the Welfs and can easily be traced back to the Cunigundas, Prince of Welf. So basically the Queen of England has Venetian roots, but also German roots because the Guelphs are intertwined with the German aristocracy through the House of Hanover, the Hanoverian English King George I, he came from the Duchy of Luneburg , which have been [governed] by the Guelph family since the 12th century. Somewhat interesting [….] Prince Charles, the Queen’s son, and Diana visited Venice on numerous occassions, not on any official business, but rather in a private capacity. I was told by someone very familiar with the British royal family that the Queen told Diana point blank to never ever ever discuss these trips in public and, of course, Diana never did because I think she knew that the Queen meant it and she’d kill her if she ever did. So anyway, again, historically I can show you that what today is called the Bilderberg Group, 500 years ago was called the Venetian Black Nobility, but the idea behind what [all these people put together] hasn't changed, it’s the wholesale destruction of anything related and affiliated with the idea of a nation-state."

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 11:28:30 am »
Thanks for this information. Estulin needs his own outlet. He's a genius.

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 11:13:05 am »
You're welcome.

Estulin had a blog for some time, were he regularly published information, also in english - www.danielestulin.com. But now he only occasionally publishes stuff on the www.bilderbergbook.com site.

I wouldn't consider him a genius. But definitely a great investigator.

And concerning the Black Nobility organized crime syndicate, as I already suspected[1] for some time, Estulin has more recently said that it goes even further back in time, and that this generational conspiracy is around 800 years old. And like what he says in the final quote, that I've posted, might indicate, he has also recently said that this people are not just trillionaires, their accumulated wealth for all this centuries of exploiting and ripping off people is measured in the incredible amount of hundreds of quadrillions of dollars...


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1. http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/954_Gallagher_Venice_rig.html

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 11:21:26 am »
You're welcome.

Estulin had a blog for some time, were he regularly published information, also in english - www.danielestulin.com. But now he only occasionally publishes stuff on the www.bilderbergbook.com site.

I wouldn't consider him a genius. But definitely a great investigator.

And concerning the Black Nobility organized crime syndicate, as I already suspected[1] for some time, Estulin has more recently said that it goes even further back in time, and that this generational conspiracy is around 800 years old. And like what he says in the final quote, that I've posted, might indicate, he has also recently said that this people are not just trillionaires, their accumulated wealth for all this centuries of exploiting and ripping off people is measured in the incredible amount of hundreds of quadrillions of dollars...


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1. http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/954_Gallagher_Venice_rig.html

Yep sounds about right.  Hundreds of quadrillions of dollars, because you are talking about a secret wealth that has been accumulating since the Roman Empire fell.  Really, it was accumulating even before then, as most of these ancient Venetian Black Nobility families can trace their lineage back to Babylon.  That's the real genesis of all this sick, inbred royalty.

money is their invention, so it makes sense that they would have more than you could possibly imagine. 

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2010, 01:58:03 pm »
this is sweet.
you can only imagine what kind of rabbit hole comes in front of you in 2.5 years...
meeting these people would probably look the same as frodo meeting sauron :P

when is the world currency aka owg (1wg) kicking in?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/6152204/UN-wants-new-global-currency-to-replace-dollar.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9958995
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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 04:22:59 am »
...Estulin has more recently said (...) he has also recently said...

Source for that already publicly available on the web:
http://vimeo.com/8562317
(Interview aired on the Croatian TV channel HRT2, on December 28th 2009)

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2010, 10:59:51 am »
You're welcome.

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2010, 04:38:17 pm »
Estulin had a blog for some time, were he regularly published information, also in english - www.danielestulin.com. But now he only occasionally publishes stuff on the www.bilderbergbook.com site.

Daniel Estulin is writing again things on his blog.
For those of you who can read Castilian:

www.danielestulin.com

(It will surely be also a good source of information about the next Bilderberg conference in Barcelona.)

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2010, 04:59:27 pm »
Daniel Estulin's YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/DanielEstulinVideos

(Most of the videos are in English.)

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 09:14:58 pm »
Twitter account:

http://twitter.com/danielestulines


And some "blogspot" posts he made in the last two months:

http://daniel-estulin.blogspot.com/

(He's now posting only in his own initial blog/site.)


The man is definitely back. And, apparently, not as pessimistic as he was.

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2010, 09:26:38 pm »
Why call the the "black nobility"?  That is confusing.  The "black nobility" in Italy were the nobility that supported the Pope during his imprisonment in the Vatican before Mussolini.

Why not call them what they were, the "tinker nobles" --  wealthy Jews and others that bought their way into the nobility since the middle ages?

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2010, 09:44:27 pm »
The term "black" comes from their deeds, the kind of evil methods they use. (Like in the case of the term "black ops").
Dr. Coleman's monograph about them - http://www.coleman300.com/WhitePaper/ - is a good source for more information, while Estulin doesn't publish some work that describes them in more depth.

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2010, 10:08:21 pm »
From a historical point of view the use of this term is unnecessarily confusing, that's all I was saying, really.

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 12:03:13 am »
Estulin is also making a few posts in English on his blog. Find them with the tag: http://www.danielestulin.com/categorias/original-en-ingles/

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Daniel Estulin speaks on Bilderbergs before the EU parliment
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2010, 12:44:17 pm »
4 days old but still important for us.

Daniel Estulin, author of "The True Story of the Bilderberg Group" and "Shadow Masters", has been invited to speak at the European Parliament by Mario Borghezio, the most senior Member of European Parliament from Italy. The European Parliament is one of the most powerful legislatures in the world. Estulin’s talk is equivalent to addressing a joint session of Congress. In fact, never before has Bilderberg as a subject seen the light of day in front of such a highly respectable audience - elected senators of European nations.

Link:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/Daniel-Estulin/Bilderberg-Group/prweb4011104.htm

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Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2010, 12:59:17 pm »
Eustace muilins the great did it a long time ago!! read the curse of canaan, all the black nobiity is in there.
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