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Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« on: August 27, 2007, 12:39:56 am »
People don't seem to be talking about the only billionaire killed on 9/11/01 who was labeled a terrorist by an American Airlines stewardess on flight 11. Guess passenger 9D is not that interesting. Insert Colbert Sarcasm

Boarding List AA11
A little odd a billionaire flew commercial but not completely inconceivable.
Daniel "Danny" Mark Lewin mathematician and entrepreneur, best known for co-founding internet company Akamai Technologies.

Lewin was born in Denver, Colorado and raised in Jerusalem, where he served for four years in the Israel Defence Forces. He was an officer in Sayeret Matkal, an elite and secretive counter-terrorism unit. He attended the Technion university in Haifa, Israel while simultaneously working at IBM's research laboratory in Haifa. While at IBM, he was responsible for developing the Genesys system

Massachusetts Institute of Technology of 1996 he and his advisor Professor F. Thomson Leighton came up with innovative algorithms for optimizing the Internet; these algorithms became the basis for Akamai, which the two founded in 1998. Lewin served as the company's Chief Technical Officer (CTO) and a board member, and during the height of the internet boom was a multi-billionaire, and today would still be a multi-millionaire. He was named one of the most influential figures of the Internet age.

Lewin was killed aboard American Airlines Flight 11 during the September 11, 2001 attacks, apparently toward the beginning of the hijacking. A 2002 FAA memo suggests he may have been killed by hijacker Satam al-Suqami after he attempted to foil the hijacking

Akamai Technologies, Inc. is a company that provides a distributed computing platform for global Internet content caching and application delivery, headquartered in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The company was founded by then-MIT graduate student Daniel Lewin, along with MIT Applied Mathematics professor Tom Leighton and MIT Sloan School of Management students Jonathan Seelig and Preetish Nijhawan. Leighton still serves as Akamai's Chief Scientist. Akamai is a Hawaiian word meaning "intelligent" or "clever." Beyond the name, the company has no ties with Hawaii.

Akamai's customers include Musician's Friend, E*TRADE, American Express, Yahoo!, AOL Radio, Symantec,, Google, Microsoft, FedEx, BBC News website, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Xerox, iVillage, Apple Inc., Music Television (MTV), the United States Geological Survey, the White House, Reuters,, Guitar Center, Friendster, iTunes, REI, and XM Satellite Radio. A list of more customers can be found on Akamai's website.

Arabic news network Al-Jazeera was a customer from March 28, 2003, until April 2, 2003, when Akamai decided to end the brief relationship.

A 2002 FAA memo suggests he may have been killed by hijacker Satam al-Suqami after he attempted to foil the hijacking
The FAA memo states "shoots Lewin" How'd they get guns on board?
So Madeleine Amy Sweeny identifies Daniel Lewin as hijacker? Im not sure anyone can conclude she merely assumed Levin was a hijacker based solely on his appearance and not his actions. What exactly did Lewin do that morning on that flight?

Akamai is a Hawaiian word meaning "intelligent" or "clever."
Does that mean Intelligence Agency? Considering Akamai's business dealings, could they have created PROMIS-like software for their clients that had backdoors for intelligence agencies?  Does Akamai have any IT contracts concerning Continuity Of Government?

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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2008, 01:29:36 pm »
The Israel Defense Forces are Israel's military forces, comprising the ground forces, air force and navy. It is the sole military wing of the Israeli security forces, and has no civilian jurisdiction within Israel. The IDF is headed by its Chief of General Staff, subordinate to the Defense Minister of Israel; the current Chief of Staff, since 2007, is Lieutenant General Gabi Ashkenazi.
It also has close military relations with the United States, including financial aid from the US, which also fostered development cooperation, such as on the F-15I jet, THEL laser defense system, the Arrow missile defense system, etc. In 1983, the United States and Israel established a Joint Political Military Group (JPMG), which convenes twice a year.

Sayeret Matkal:
Sayeret Matkal (General Staff Reconnaissance Unit) is the main special forces unit of the Israeli Defence Force (IDF). Its main roles are counter-terrorism, deep reconnaissance and intelligence gathering, but the unit is first and foremost a field intelligence-gathering unit, used to obtain strategic intelligence behind enemy lines. Originally it was part of the Aman Unit 157, but began to operate independently as the General Staff's elite special operations force.

Sayeret Matkal are known for sabotage, espionage, kidnapping foreign intelligence agents, assassinations, and er, bombing a Syrian nuclear reactor.. Not exactly the most 'conventional' of military branches you could work for are they? They actually sound like a unit very capable of carrying out a huge operation like 9/11, or at least participating in.

Sayeret Matkal:

Israel's elite team that handles aircraft hijackings and assassinations
In charge on foreign  CT missions. They specialize in aircraft takeovers, and assassinations.  There have been rumors linking them with several recent operations, but these have never been confirmed by the IDF.

The unit , of only 200 , is often disguised as women and Arabs

During the 1970s and 1980s, Sayeret Matkal - a secretive Israeli anti-terrorist unit (akin to the Delta Force) - thwarted many attempted hijackings. (In 1976, its commandos, disguised as flight mechanics, famously stormed a grounded Air France plane and freed 103 Jewish hostages on an airfield in Entebbe, Uganda.)

Members of this unit are trained on the finer points of looking and thinking like an Arab, and have been credited with conducting numerous death-squad killings, disguised as civilians.

Here are some of their typical operations:

Palestinians hijack a jet to Kenya and the Sayeret Matkal flew in at night and killed all the Arabs.

Operation Isotope, May 1972 - Sayeret Matkal storms the plane and rescues jews

Operation gift - July 22, 1968, terrorists hijacked an El Al airliner on its way from Israel to Rome.

On November 26, 1968, two terrorists fired at an El Al airliner about to take off from Athens Airport - killing two.
Israel retaliated by sending the Counter Terror unit , Sayeret Matkal into Beirut. They snuck into Beirut airport and blew up 30 jets.

Air France Flight 8969 - Flight was from Algiers to Paris. Terrorists hijacked it at Houari Boumedienne International Airport - killed three people over four days and it was flown to Marseille-Marignane Airport in France. The Sayeret Matkal stormed it killing the hijackers.

In 1977 the Palestinians hijacked a Lufthansa jet over Spain. The hijacking lasted four days when the Sayeret Matkal along with German troops stormed the plane in Mogadishu. The pilot a three passengers died.

In 1985 Lebanese hijacks a TWA to Beirut. The hijacking lasts ten days - a US Navy diver is killed and the US and Israel finally negotiate the release of the 153 onboard

A 1969 hijacking in Italy that lasted 40 days. Both the hijackers and the hostages go free.

Sayret Matkal storms jet in Negev Desert - Russian hijacker took over a Dagestan Airlines airplane on route to Moscow, along with its 50 passengers, using a fake bomb.

So let me get this straight, Daniel Lewin, a member of an elite Israeli task force that dealt in hijackings and terror operations, was either shot or stabbed as he attempted to fend off these 'Arabs'?

What are the odds of a Capt in Sayeret Matkal being on AA11 and surrounded by Arab hijackers? Million to one

The odds of Sayeret Matkal leading a team doing the hijacking is 100 to 1

I'd say those odds of 100 to 1 are conservative if not a huge underestimation.......

From WND article, quoting a personal friend who grew up with Lewin;

He'd be more than a match for those skinny little (expletive)," said Brad Rephen, a New York lawyer who grew up with Lewin in Jerusalem. "With his training, he would have killed them with his bare hands."
"I can tell you, their knives would not have stopped him," he added. "He would have taken their knives or their box cutters away and used them against them"
Rephen recalls Lewin's injured hands after he returned from an Israeli anti-terrorist training course. - "They were pretty beaten up from the fighting he did," he said. "He knew how to fight with knives and take knives away from people."
He described Lewin, at about 5-11, 200 pounds, as "thick-boned." He says he witnessed him bench-press more than 300 pounds and squat close to 500 pounds. - "He was very, very strong and had a lot of meat on him," Rephen said. "They couldn't have subdued him by slashing him. The only way they could have stopped him was by shooting him."
Lewin went on dozens of such missions, friends say. In the '80s, for example, he helped rescue thousands of Jews stranded in Ethiopia. His outfit Unit 269 secured the airport there during the airlift operation, friends say.
Rephen called Lewin "the best of the best." - "About 2,500 guys try out for the unit he was in," he said. "Twenty-five make it, and one gets chosen as an officer. It was him."
He was also extremely tough and determined, Rephen says.

A leaked Federal Aviation Administration memo written on the evening of Sept. 11 contains disturbing revelations about American Airlines Flight 11, the first to hit the World Trade Center. The "Executive Summary," based on information relayed by a flight attendant to the American Airlines Operation Center, stated "that a passenger located in seat 10B shot and killed a passenger in seat 9B at 9:20 a.m. The passenger killed was Daniel Lewin, shot by passenger Satam Al Suqami." The FAA has claimed that the document is a "first draft," declining to release the final draft, as it is "protected information," noting the inaccuracies in reported times, etc. The final draft omits all mention of gunfire. - Link

FAA whistleblowers Bogdan Dzakovic and Steve Elson, leader and former member of the FAA's Red Team of undercover airport-security inspectors, said this is BS and the FAA are covering it up...

WASHINGTON An internal Federal Aviation Administration memo detailing a shooting aboard hijacked American Airlines Flight 11 is not likely a mistake, as claimed, and the government and the airline may be denying the existence of a gun aboard the plane out of fear of being sued by Sept. 11 victims' families, charges a former veteran FAA special agent familiar with the memo and its source.

Citing complaints lodged Monday by whisteblower Bogdan Dzakovic, a leader of the FAA's Red Team of undercover airport-security inspectors, the group called Families of September 11 says the FAA has a history of suppressing information about security problems and therefore does not trust it to police itself in this case....

...But Steve Elson, a former FAA airport-security inspector and Red Team member, doubts it was written in error.

He says the memo was generated late afternoon on Sept. 11 by the FAA Emergency Operations Center and "hand-delivered" to FAA Administrator Jane Garvey. He claims to know the author, and trusts its accuracy.

"The specificity of the wording passenger seat numbers, who shot whom and the firing of a single bullet makes an error unlikely," he said in an interview with

Elson who quit the FAA in frustration in 1999, after he says management here repeatedly ignored his and other agents' airport-security warnings says Washington may be continuing a "cover-up of the known lack of security" in denying the gun report. Link

The FBI Summary:

The memo says that Suzanne Clark, head of corporate security for American Airlines, told the airline's FAA principal security inspector, or PSI, that a flight attendant aboard the doomed flight out of Boston called the airline's security operations center in Fort Worth and said that hijacker Satam al-Suqami had shot and killed passenger Daniel Lewin, a 31-year-old executive from Brookline, Mass., who was seated in the next row in business class.

Hotard, who says he has not read the memo, insists Clark said no such thing. He also says that the FAA PSI, Janet Riffe, did not relay any information about a gun being used in the hijacking to FAA headquarters here.

That phone conversation was not recorded, Hotard says, but Woodward took notes in shorthand and later wrote them out in longhand for FBI agents.

The FBI, in turn, summarized his account in an investigative document that was later leaked to the Los Angeles Times. [/color]

Brown says the memo, a summary of events prepared for top FAA officials, was a first draft and riddled with mistakes, including inaccurate times and passenger names in the summaries of the other three hijacked flights that day.

As mistakes go, though, the Flight 11 gun account was unusually detailed and dramatic by comparison. [url]Link[/url]

Another aspect of this story on WND here: Did FAA get Flight 11 gun story from FBI?

This whole gun / stabbing thing is a bit suspect. To throw a spanner in the works, so to speak ???.

Lewin worked on the Genesys System for IBM, a Functional verification methodology for microprocessors... I'd presume this was a system that checks the integrity of a microprocessor, doesn't seem to be any computing technology out of the ordinary though, just your straight forward PPC and Intel Algorithms, although he may have worked on other projects.. will update if I find else anything on any other work)

and Co-Founded Akamai... a web server company that a lot of government agencies use.. the Whitehouse site for example, is hosted on Akamai servers... This opens up unquestionable links to the Neocons and Pentagon, DoD etc, the eariler MIT connection zips back to Thomas Eagar who helped in pushing the Bush official story through Popular Mechanics..

This summer, Lewin was listed in the top 10 of the Enterprise Systems magazine's Power 100 - people chosen for their impact on informa tion technology. The list put him between Steve Ballmer, chief executive of Microsoft, and Linus Torvalds, who steers the development of the core of the Linux operating system.

Bigshot for sure with a very interesting background...


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2008, 06:01:09 am »
Considering Akamai's business dealings, could they have created PROMIS-like software for their clients that had backdoors for intelligence agencies?  Does Akamai have any IT contracts concerning Continuity Of Government?

Prosecutor's Management Information System's_Management_Information_System

Your whole OP is brilliant Bob, not sure if you'll ever read this but I think you're onto something here. Hopefully you'll have done more digging since posting this last year than I've managed to do whilst staying up all night searching and reading, just found this all too unreal, the odds of this being any kind of coincidence are too improbable to pass by..

Akamai technologies are utilized by a whole bunch of Gov't agencies, see their more recent press release here, nothing new:

Akamai Technologies, Inc. (NASDAQ: AKAM), a provider of services that enable the world's leading enterprises and government agencies to extend and control their e-business infrastructure, today announced the formation of a Public Sector board of advisors comprised of leaders in the federal, state & local, defense, and industry sectors. Initial members of Akamai's Public Sector Advisory Board include:

    * Richard A. Clarke, former Special Advisor to the President for Cyber Security in the current Bush Administration, and a senior security official in the Clinton and George H.W. Bush White Houses;
    * James Eccleston, former Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisitions and Logistics with the Department of Defense;

    * Tom Hewitt, past President and Founder of Federal Sources Inc., and former Vice President of Computer Sciences Corp.;
    * Don Upson, former Secretary of Technology for the State of Virginia; and former Chief of Staff of the House Government Operations Committee, in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Members of the Akamai Public Sector Advisory Board will have an opportunity to work together to examine and recommend solutions to issues facing government agencies in the areas of infrastructure protection, information assurance, and security, to name a few. In addition, the advisory board will counsel Akamai on market opportunities within federal and state & local government agencies, business strategy, and the development of technologies that anticipate and meet public sector requirements. Link

Akamai partnered with ReliaCast in July 2001 - both leading companies in server based application streaming... Link

Reliacast's audience management software evolved from multicast protocol work done for the Department of Defense. James McNabb, now Reliacast's CTO, and Alfred Weaver, now a computer science professor at the University of Virginia, built software to monitor the delivery of content such as battlefield command and control, and satellite imagery to a mass audience.

Akamai's client roster reads like a Who's Who including Inc.(AMZN), Best Buy Co. Inc.(BBY), FedEx Corp.(FDX), Hewlett-Packard Co.(HPQ), IBM, Sony Corp.(SNE), Nintendo Co. Ltd.(NTDOF.PK), Yahoo! Inc.(YHOO), Viacom Inc.(VIA), U.S. Airforce, and the Department of Defense, to name a few. Akamai's customers range from media properties to financial Web sites to global enterprises. A high-profile customer base offers competitive edge for a company over rivals.

It's quite possible as well that Lewin put his algorithm skills to use for Sayeret / Mossad...

Israeli start-ups, meanwhile, are a leading destination for global venture investors. Some Israeli companies have grown into market leaders, such as firewall giant Check Point Software Technologies Ltd. and voice-mail company Comverse Technology Inc.

According to the government almost half the country's exports are in technology.

The Nasdaq-traded biotech company Compugen - which uses math and physics as well as biology in the battle against cancer and other diseases - was founded by three Talpiot grads. It is run by a fourth, Mor Amitai.

Amitai says some of the most complicated work he ever did was during his time in Talpiot. "The experience of sometimes succeeding, almost always as part of a team, involving something that really seemed impossible, I think this is something we took with us," he said.

There are other reasons for Israel's high-tech success: With a population of under 7 million people and few natural resources, Israel has been forced to focus on export industries like technology. The country has benefited from the thousands of scientists who immigrated from the former Soviet Union in the 1990s, and Israel's research universities have strong reputations around the world.

But from the smallest start-ups to the largest multinationals, the Israeli tech world is full of veterans of the military's communications, research and intelligence operations.

At Lotem, which handles the military's computer and communications systems, many of its soldiers studied engineering before entering the military. Others are trained by the army as programmers or technicians. Link


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2008, 03:01:37 pm »
Akamai certainly have a slice of the COG pie. From their own website;



As a public-sector organization, your agency must do the following:

    * Address the needs of various constituents, including staff, citizens, businesses, government agencies, and the military services
    * Comply with critical IT policies and regulations, such as FISMA (Federal Information Systems Management Act), Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-12, E-Government Act of 2002, and many others
    * Maintain Continuity of Operations (COOP) and Continuity of Government (COG, e.g. HSPD-20) when faced with natural and man-made disasters

The ability to offer accurate and timely information, effective collaboration, and innovative mission-critical services to globally distributed users is vital to achieving mission goals and National Essential Functions.

Akamai offers tailored solutions supporting the needs of defense, intelligence, civilian, and state and local agencies, allowing public sector organizations to:

    * Maintain continuous and high-performing operations under all conditions
    * Ensure the security of online transactions
    * Provide global application and network telemetry in support of NetOps

and This suggests that they've been in on the technological side of COG since their inception in 1998.

Tie this history of serious tech-savvies / elite squad at uber-secretive black ops level in with Talpiot, an agency that deals in simulations, data interception, back-door communications takeover, video and voice simulation amongst whatever else they are up to, tie this in with the Israeli spy rings, the 5 dancing Israelis, and this begins to make a lot of sense... War games on 9/11 that NORAD and FAA weren't sure if were real or excercise, Phantom on-screen blips (AA11 still being airborne after it had supposedly hit the North Tower).. these folks had all the apparatus and know-how to pull this off.. let alone the physical manpower from Sayerat Maktal..


The article below indicates that IDF-Mossad-CIA Intelligence Agencies use extensive amounts of Voice Pattern Analysis/Statistical Modeling on communication networks on the Arab world-US/UK politicians-and the Chinese.

Talpiot research can allow the Mossad-IDF to analyze social relationships and information networks to cap leaks, pressure politics, bring out scandal, cull communication networks. Anybody with a dark past can be blackmailed by the intergration of communication agencies such as Comverse, Talpiot data modeling tools, spies on the ground, spies on the inside. I believe the IDF-Talpiot programs watch the US press (and for the generation of political ideas. Obviously the technology is used by US/UK/IDF forces in the Arab world for intelligence. These programs would be extremely useful for "capping" information leaks - i.e., nail the spreaders of information by statistically analyzing the "actors" involved. Without Talpiot, the ZOG of the USA/UK could not exist in full form or have the freedom of operation that it currently does.

By the way, boycott Panaroma Software since many ex-Talpiots run that company.


Military units provide training ground for Israeli tech leaders
By Josef Federman, Associated Press
TSRIFIN MILITARY BASE, Israel Nestled in a nondescript concrete building on this sprawling military base near Tel Aviv is "Lotem," one of a handful of shadowy units that have turned Israel's military into an electronics-warfare powerhouse.

These units, whose size in most cases remains classified, have also quietly become incubators for Israel's high-tech industry much the way that elite fighting units produced generations of political leaders.

"Even in the last two years, guys in this unit found very good jobs outside," said Col. Avi Berger, head of Lotem's communications-systems department.

In a country where half the exports are in technology, multinationals and small software developers alike are packed with veterans of programs such as Lotem, which manages the military's computer and communications systems.

Many of the 115 workers at PowerDsine, which has developed ways to deliver power over computer networks, are former military techies, says chief executive Igal Rotem, who himself served in a research and development unit.

The "Talpiot" program is perhaps the best reflection of the army's technological drive.

The unit, one of the most selective in the military, was formed in the wake of the 1973 war, when Israel was caught off guard and lost some 2,500 men.

"One of the lessons was that we need a technological edge over our enemies and we need to develop this edge from within," said Talpiot's commander, Maj. Amir Schlachet.

In Israel, where military service is mandatory, more than 5,000 young people apply to Talpiot each year, hoping to be among the 50 or so accepted. They must pass a grueling battery of tests in math, physics, group dynamics, leadership skills and intelligence.

The reward: a nine-year commitment, beginning with a 3-year dual bachelor's degree program in mathematics and physics at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Vacations are spent jumping out of airplanes and participating in other military exercises. Along the way, roughly one out of five soldiers leave the program, Schlachet said.

Those who survive go on to careers as officers in some of the military's most prestigious operations, mostly in research and development projects, Schlachet said. From there, the 500-odd Talpiot grads have tended to find their way to the upper echelons of business and academia, he said.

"You learn self-confidence, not to be afraid of anything. No subject is too complex to go after, and no answer should be taken for granted," said Talpiot grad Gilad Almogy, 38, Applied Materials' top executive in Israel.

The Nasdaq-traded biotech company Compugen was formed by three of Almogy's Talpiot comrades. A fourth, Mor Amitai, now runs the company.

Amitai says some of the most complicated work he ever did was during his time in Talpiot. "The experience of sometimes succeeding, almost always as part of a team, involving something that really seemed impossible, I think this is something we took with us," he said.

Like Talpiot, Lotem is highly selective. Many of its soldiers studied engineering before entering the military. Others are trained by the army as programmers or technicians. The unit encourages soldiers to take calculated risks and not be afraid of failure, Berger said.

"We are trying to teach our guys to think differently ... to be more creative," Berger said. "When they go out, usually, they have these abilities."

Lotem is so secretive it would not allow its solders to be viewed at work. However, it is expected to launch a sophisticated communications system code-named "Mountain Rose" this year that will allow secure communications between the battlefield, commanders and headquarters. The partner on the project, Motorola, declined to comment.

Some interesting comments from under that article that are worth considering..

There are several internet articles that software firms such as Ptech and Mitre could have been involved in 9/11. They sold software that on 9/11 integrated the computer systems of NORAD, USAF & FAA. Among other things, we know that fake radar blips were inserted onto air traffic controllers' radar screens, probably on all NORAD, USAF & FAA radar screens. Hence the illusion & confusion by atc's about whether the so-called hijackings were real or were drills.

These software systems had a strong israeli component. In particular, there is the concept of a "super-user" who can access all areas, and insert data at will. If israelis developed the software, then they could also have had "super-user" access on 9/11, maybe unauthorised & unknown to the owners (US Gov & Military). Thus the hijacked aircraft hoax of 9/11 could easily have been a computer hoax. Note that the FAA, USAF and airlines were all quite surprised by 9/11 going "live". They had to scramble to put together coherent stories to conform to the aircraft hoax.
Another area for possible computer crime on 9/11 were the financial transactions that went through, and it is suggested that maybe billions or trillions were laundered or stolen on that day.
Finally, as Eric Hufschmidt says, the detonation of explosives on the WTC Towers & WTC7 would have been timed by computer programs. Certainly sounds like something for which an israeli soldier would have enjoyed developing the software & hardware!

After a decade of brainstorming the methods of pulling off 9/11 - i.e. blowing up the WTC plus some aircraft hokery-pokery - whoever planned it would need skilled IT support. Your summary shows some of the skills & jobs needed for 9/11 & cover-up commissions. The talpiot folk are not going to blab to the world. They are doing it for the very best of kosher reasons. Good chaps. Rewarding work; undoubtedly well paid too.
Inventory of Skills:

    * 1. In-depth Physics and Applied Mathematics research with intensive data modeling (Why not model 9/11 before launching the real thing?).

    * 2. In-depth Computer Science skills and Communication Network Skills to tap all in coming and out going communications on 9/11/2001.

    * 3. Highly placed players in corporate, military and academic backgrounds

    * 4. Need to make a fake tape in real time? Look no further.

    * 5. Need to simulate a fake phone call? In real time? Using graphemes and phonemes of people on the "hijacked" plane. Look no further than Talpiot's experts.

    * 6. Want something big to go down quickly? Look no further than 20 something PhDs in Advanced Physics and Materials Science.

    * 7. Want to track the US military and Intelligence Agencies for the NeoCons in real time? Look no further.

    * 8. Want to do intensive linguistical datamining in real time to flatten spikes in communication networks and eliminate "Hang-out"? Look no further.

This puts the israelis fair & square in the driving seat for 9/11, not the US gov & military, although I still think it needed Cheney & Rumsfeld to be there for backup to make sure the good guys didn't smell a rat & upset the plans on the day.

About all talpiot couldn't do was plan the 9/11 weather! That part was perfect. Do you think talpiot does longrange weather modelling/forecasting?

"Warning" text messages from Israel to NY 2 hours before the attack. Apparently Odigo (Israeli company likely employing Talpiot grads) is one of those "hang-out" issues that the Mossad-Talpiot could contain by intercepting the FBI's every move via tapped communications. It's easy to make up a story when you know what the FBI is investigating.

Odigo is one of those programs that a Talpiot grad may have used to warn a colleague. It's still a mystery that the FBI hasn't released.

There's a ton of other articles & info-bombs in that comments section too that are worth reading.. link again

It's not inconceivable that Dan Lewin may well have been at the hub of the whole operation on 9/11...


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2008, 03:32:57 pm »

"Then there is 8-200, an electronic warfare unit founded in the early 1960s that many believe has left a bigger mark on the boom than any of Israel's other elite operations. Its name comes from its founding members: 8 Ashkenazi Jews and 200 Iraqi immigrants who were specialists in wireless communications and had worked for Iraqi Railways. Their skills became the cornerstone of the electronic intelligence gathering, encryption, and other activities known to be among the unit's specialties. It's illegal for past and present members to talk about 8-200, although it has become something of an open secret in the tech world. The unit has also attained a mythical status among venture capitalists for the entrepreneurial wizards who are veterans of the unit. Gil Shwed, one of Check Point's founders, allegedly served in 8-200, though he won't confirm that himself. 'I had the idea in the army, three years before I started Check Point,' Shwed says. 'I knew I had a good idea. If you can do it in the military environment, you have the tools to do it in other environments.' - (Startup Nation by Stacy Perman - www.,17925,512689,00.html

"A four-year-long period goes virtually unmentioned in the official biography of the Israeli billionaire Gil Shwed. This much information can be cobbled together: In 1986 Shwed, just 18 years old, joined the supersecret electronic intelligence arm, Unit 8-200, of the Israeli Defense Forces. His job most likely was to string together military computer networks in a way that would allow some users access to confidential materials and deny it to others." (sounds just like Ptech) - (A Fortune in Firewalls by Lea Goldman -

The legend of the name is that unit began with eight Ashkenazis and 200 immigrants from Iraq. The Iraqi immigrants had previously worked on Iraqi Railways, knew wireless communications and of course, Arabic Israel Defense Force intelligence unit 8-200 may be Israel's greatest high-tech incubator, whose graduates have gone on to found companies like Check Point, NICE, Comverse and ECI. Not to mention all those start-ups. The Arena presents a first-ever expose of Israel's ultimate secret weapon.

"It began as a unit in the Intelligence Service of the Hagana (the pre-State underground army), called "Intelligence Service 2," which was responsible for listening to enemy transmissions. 8-200 has undergone numerous incarnations. Today, it concentrates on intelligence gathering and decoding of encryption codes. It is a good and developed unit, whose contribution to the system is important. It was forbidden to talk about it for years. We have been hearing more about it recently and there have been a few publications in Israel and abroad. The unit recruits quality personnel, which then goes out and markets technologies developed there." (Lewin and Akamai, for example)

"It is important to understand that this is a huge unit, that works in many fields. In general, it is responsible for all intelligence that can affect Israel's security. Intelligence gathering in the unit comes from a variety of sources, i.e. listening to all types of broadcasts: telephones, fax, radio. The unit listens, intercepts and decodes information, mostly encrypted, though some is in clear.

"The major challenge is decoding encrypted transmissions. Unit computer experts and mathematicians are responsible for this, using mathematical models and algorithms." (just what Lewin specialized in)
Yossi Melman, "Ha'aretz" Intelligence Affairs Correspondent and co-author of "Every Spy a Prince" says, "This is the most important intelligence unit in the State of Israel. More than the Mossad. The information obtained by this unit is of the highest priority to the entire intelligence community." ...... Its (8-200) first commander was Avraham Aloni, who in 1952 became the commander of the Signal Intelligence Unit of the IDF Intelligence Corps. Also in 1959, the electronics division was established which served as a research and technology division of the Intelligence Corps, which in turn became 8-200. Ever since, graduates of 8-200 have gone on to hold leading positions in Israel's high-tech industries, becoming entrepreneurs and executives in such companies as Checkpoint, Comverse, Taldor, ECI Telecom, Audiocodes, Jacada, Compugen, Nice, and others." (The 50s: Little Israel invents and devises by Dan Yachin - www.

"Several of the founders of Israel's best-known tech success, the Internet security firm Check Point Software Technologies, are former members of 8-200 who specialized in developing firewalls between classified military computer networks." (Startup Nation by Stacy Perman - www.,17925,512689,00.html)


"Take the air force operational software and development center, known by its Hebrew acronym, MAMDAS. It designs some of the world's most sophisticated military software, and most of its personnel are in their early 20s. The key to its success, says Lieutenant Colonel Zafrir, an officer in the unit (the army censor prohibits publication of some officers' full names), lies in the close integration of development and operation and close cooperation between designers and people who use the technology in the field." (Israeli Army Grads Lead Business Revolution by David Rosenberg - www.


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2008, 05:15:38 pm »
Have a gander at this article on the Conspiracy Central blog - This Israeli Intelligence infiltration, espionage and control system goes way deeper than anyone could imagine.. this shit is truly chilling, this just gets deeper and deeper.. when taken in context with 9/11, it becomes apparent how easy it would have been to pull off from a technological / communications vantage point... seems pretty much ALL the systems the governments, and commercial entities use, are created and maintained by Talpiot, 8-200 and Unit 8153 Intel geniuses gone 'entrepeneurs'...

some of the quotes from the post above are from this article, all originally sourced, although it seems a few of them have been permanently removed from the web altogether.

Spies in the ointment: The Israeli espionage of global communications

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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2008, 10:34:17 pm »
ah yes The mysterious tale of Daniel of those "odd" things of 9/11.

I looked into this long ago, and it looks like you've found the same things I did. Well done goodfight! You've showed us the only passenger purposely murdered before the crashes, who he was, his past in the Israeli special forces, and his company. And if you're like I was, has you scratching your head wondering what it means and how he fits in with this conspiracy.

First off, for people who think there were no hijackers, this is all a bunch of gobbledygook and some elaborate tale. It has to be. Which is just one reason of a thousand that I do believe there were "hijackers". If there were not hijackers however, this story is irrelevant.

2nd, for people who believe the planes were "switched", then this also has to be a bunch of gobbledygook, which is one reason of a hundred I don't think the planes were switched. But if planes were switched then it seems this story can't be true.

bobdole said...
People don't seem to be talking about the only billionaire killed on 9/11/01 who was labeled a terrorist by an American Airlines stewardess on flight 11. Guess passenger 9D is not that interesting.

Now, maybe I missed something, but exactly who and how was he labled a terrorist? But I agree that it really didn't get much attention.

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So let me get this straight, Daniel Lewin, a member of an elite Israeli task force that dealt in hijackings and terror operations, was either shot or stabbed as he attempted to fend off these 'Arabs'?

Yup, that seems to be the case.

The natural inclination here is to think he is operating as an Israeli intelligent asset in some way. But we must keep some things in mind. As an Israeli it is no surprise that he served in the defense force because you have to. Also, this was in his past...he was now a businessman with a very successfull, and as you point out, interesting company. And you also point out he didn't just serve in the defense forces but in an elite counter terrorist outfit.

So this is the conclusion I came to, and I am all ears if someone has a different perspective.

It looks to me like Daniel Lewin was a brave, courageous man, who tried to stop that first plane from flying into the WTC. Now, I have to admit to some things here....I don't like Zionism. As far as I'm concerned "radical Islam" and Zionism are equal turds in my equation of life. And I'm disgusted that the U.S. is even involved in that B.S. There would be no 9/11 and no "war on terror" if the U.N. didn't create a B.S. state called Israel in 1947.

But he was murdered by the hijackers. Which seems to strongly indicate he is not involved in carrying out the attacks of 9/11 but was trying to stop them.

The U.S. government was warned of an impending terrorist attack. The intelligence agencies of Germany, France, Russia, and Israel also knew and warned the U.S. Mossad agents were tracking these hijackers all across America. Zim shipping international the Israeli company located in the WTC got the f**k outa there on Sept 4, and of course the "dancing Israelis" were all giddy and filming the events at the WTC because 9/11 was not a secret except from us...the citizens of the U.S. The CIA let these guys in the country on purpose. I'm sure the U.S. told these other countries that we f**ked up and dropped the ball on 9/11, but the truth is the PNAC boys desperately wanted this attack and made sure it happened.

Maybe Daniel Lewin was tipped off by associates. Maybe he wasn't. But with his former training he probably wasn't content to just sit on his ass while he watched Arab Muslims take over a plane. Or, maybe he was killed instantly because these hijackers were told who he was, but I can't find a reason to think he was involved in carrying out 9/11.

BTW...where did you find that FBI executive summary page at? I don't think I've see that before.

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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 08:49:53 am »
but I can't find a reason to think he was involved in carrying out 9/11.

You forget the stewardess reported the hijacking leader's seat belonged to Daniel Lewin.

I would like to know, who claimed the stewardess was mistaken and who exactly changed the story?

Odigo instant message warnings to get out of the towers came from Israel two hours before the strike.

The dancing Israeli Mossad demolition bomb experts with set up cameras before the event on national Israeli TV claimed they were there "to record the event."

This guy Lewin, hijack expert in the mix reported to be the leader...there is more here than meets the eye.

Again, who changed Sweeney's story Lewin was the hijacker in charge?



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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 03:11:11 pm »
Hijacker shot passenger on Flight 11: FAA memo; 'One bullet fired,' killing 9B occupant, but agency claims report was in error "An internal Federal Aviation Administration memo summarizing the Sept. 11 hijackings says a passenger aboard American Airlines Flight 11 was shot to death by a single bullet, WorldNetDaily has learned.

The FAA claims the memo, time-stamped Sept. 11 at 5:30 p.m., was written in error.

"It was a first draft," said FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown in a phone interview today. "There was no gun."

She said a final draft of the executive summary, received by FAA Administrator Jane Garvey, does not include the account of a gun being fired aboard the plane, which slammed into the first World Trade Center tower not long after departing Boston.

Brown refused to release the final draft, however, arguing it is "protected information."

WorldNetDaily has obtained a copy of the first draft of the memo, which can be viewed here.

Here is the key excerpt, which is very specific (although the time is plainly wrong):

"The American Airlines FAA Principal Security Inspector (PSI) was notified by Suzanne Clark of American Airlines Corporate Headquarters, that an on board flight attendant contacted American Airlines Operations Center and informed that a passenger located in seat 10B shot and killed a passenger in seat 9B at 9:20 a.m.

"The passenger killed was Daniel Lewin, shot by passenger Satam Al Suqami. One bullet was reported to have been fired."

In fact, Flight 11 had already crashed well before 9:20 a.m. (assuming the FAA memo writer was referring to the Eastern time zone and not a later one). At 8:25 a.m. nearly an hour earlier than stated in the memo Flight 11 had turned sharply off its planned westbound path and headed south toward Manhattan. It then crashed into the north tower at 8:48 a.m." - WorldNetDaily (02/27/02)


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 03:26:12 pm »

There are 'new' photos of Daniel available on the web now

A Local 9/11 Perspective: Akamai Remembers Co-Founder
September, 11th 2011 by Justin Bomberowitz Posted in 9/11, Akamai

So, this is the source of the new image. Published on Sep 11,2011 (posted by Just in Bomberowitz/ photo taken by Jason Grow).

If you'll have a closer look to the image (the original is about 5,5 MB) and the EXIF etc data, it says it was taken on August 11 in the year 2000.

With a closer look to the watch there's the date as SAT 11. That's saturday the 11th - what else. The problem: There never was a Saturday 11th in August 2000.

If the photo was taken in 2000 and the watch was set correctly, it must have been taken in march or november.
Or the photo was really taken on saturday August, 11th, but not in the year 2000 but in the year 2001.

Now, this does really look strange. Cause in 2001 there was only one combination of a saturday and the 11th. This was 8/11/2001. Exactly one month prior to 9/11.

(There are other combinations of saturdays and the 11th day afterwards, as in May 2002, June 2003 and so on. But let's exclude this possibilities for now)

And, the whole photograph seems to be full of symbolism.
The watch hand is put on 11, the date was chosen as the 11th. (And with a little more fantasy the minute watch hand is at 6 minutes to the full hour - and as the watch is seen in the picture up-side down a 6 turns into 9. Somebody has either prepared these details of the image really carefully or it was pure coincidence.

A little bit too much 11. Was not only the flight number of 'his plane', but also sitting at seat 9B, which reads in the hexadecimal system as 911.

Seems to be uploaded at 00:19am (!) on september 11th 2011. Somebody wanted to have it out as early as possible on the anniversary day so it looks like.


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 03:58:19 pm »
His parents had been in Boston until september 10th.
Then they flew back home.

Now the watch itself:

It's from 1999.

Collection: 1999 SpringSummer
Family: Irony

The photographer Mr Grow was very well connected. An example of his recent work is a portrait of William H. Swanson, Chairman and CEO of Raytheon Company.

Danny Lewin was among the wealthiest Israelis in the world, he set goals for himself and conquered them one by one. According to his family his next ambition is (was) to penetrate Israeli politics and fight terrorism.

Ok, got the original Swatch model 'Hijacker' a couple of days ago. I bought it at Ebay. (Still good after 13 years.)
The big thing is : To set the watch that the date is at 11 is easy. To set the hour to 11 and the minute hand is easy as well. But the second hand to be also set on the 11 is tricky. At other watches you can pull the screw and the second hand does stop. That does not work at the Hijacker Swatch. To fix the second hand at the 11 you have to take the battery out in the exact moment of time.
I tried it myself, really difficult to get it set to three times 11 o'clock.

I'm convinced that the watch was really 'prepared' for the photo.
Very carefully set and staged.


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Re: Daniel Lewin, Sayeret Matkal & Talpiot
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 02:33:39 am »