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Offline One Revelator

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Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« on: May 18, 2018, 06:37:17 pm »
Started about 48 hours ago. Guests were steadily hovering around 100. Then it plummeted to less than 10. Were most of them bots? What's the story? What happened?

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You do know your SERVER IS FUBAR ?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2018, 06:38:30 am »
Also, sometimes it does not serve the CSS Stylesheet.
When that happens the page loads, but with unreadable fonts.

Looks like an inside job.

It is NOT a bot attack or any other variant of Denial of Service flood attack.


Its either :
Admin fubar
UTF Font attack
Firewall fubar

Its nothing to do with Google, or YouTube which only account each for about 5% of traffic.

If it is external, then some very big player has simply turned off a lot of spammer webots.
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2018, 09:08:37 pm »
It could also be a global mod mucking around with settings. They have access to some, but not all of the admin capabilities.

How many are currently global mods? How many are retired global mods, with account access?

It could even be somebody with access to a global mod's account.

But I still think this all is probably a normal use of the software, changing text encoding is a standard function in fora software, and SMF is no exception: https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/UTF-8_Readme

And I think the admin probably did this, and with good reason. If you don't use it, unicode posts could look garbled.

From the link above:

Why would I need UTF-8?

There are a few reasons you might need UTF-8:
  • If you want to support multiple languages that use different character sets on your forum. For instance, if you want to support both Russian and Turkish, you will need a character set that supports both. (Or any special font that requires UTF-8)
  • If the software integrating with SMF uses UTF-8. In some cases such an integration can require character sets to match.
  • If you need better search results or improved sorting. In some cases searching and sorting by the database can be improved by choosing UTF-8 as your character set.
As is filtering web bots. With stricter filtering, it might even filter out some normal guests.

You can read up a bit on it here:
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF2.0:Search_engines

The admin may have hidden guests that appear as spiders, as they aren't in the same category as a normal user.

No reason to get all technophobic. I'm surprised some of you who mod these kind of sites don't know this. ::)

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2018, 09:29:42 pm »
Ah! I figured it out.

Google is no longer updating forum.prisonplanet.com with new links:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:forum.prisonplanet.com&client=firefox-b-ab&tbs=qdr:y,sbd:1&source=lnt&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWl9mwvLvbAhVsIJoKHcYxDV0QpwUIHQ&biw=1115&bih=515

The most recent new post on this search result is May 15th, which was around the time the guest problem was reported.

So maybe admin has changed something affecting search engine results?

Did he inadvertently block search engine spidering?

I wonder if the unicode switch has somehow caused this? Or is it on Google's side?


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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 09:41:15 pm »
Just sent a message to the crew. Hopefully they'll get on it before this forum's traffic plummets into the abyss.

On the plus side, page view stats still seem to be on par...maybe just a lot of people go directly to the forum?

(About half from last year, but there has been a steady decline since 2017)

We had this problem happen on this forum years before and they fixed it. Hopefully they'll restore it again.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2018, 12:19:02 am »
It's possible the admin will have to resubmit the sitemap.xml or equivalent since the encoding is now different.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 05:54:59 am »
^^^

... good work, femacamper!
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2018, 06:17:45 am »
Don't talked about politic and religion if you want to keep things civil; and so we have modify our conversations to do so; I can see how this has been imparted, basically due to certain moderators had a strong bias and ended up flexing their unfettered power to the determent of those that disagreed with them..... the problem is that there are always things we should re-consider: because what you think is right is not always as you thought.
Free conversation should always be allowed if it is not vile or slanderous..... that would be the moderators job, rather than censoring the ears and eyes of the observer to certain subjects; unfortunately the religious section has been repressed on this forum for several years and has diminished the volume of guest and posters.
I have to believe that if censorship was reverted and allow the unknowing to realize there are many subject the guest have not been allow to see it would end up ultimately increasing the volume of contributors eventually.   
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 01:03:12 pm »
Femacamper,

Thanks for the technical tips. Lets hope the admin comes back and does his job.
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2018, 01:07:54 pm »
https://www.nigerianinfopedia.com/money-rituals-in-nigeria-history-and-causes/

The use of Juju or black magic for money rituals in Nigeria has been in existence most especially in the 1980s and 90s and is still in existence today. This posts seeks to explain the history and causes of the use of money rituals not just in Africa but in Nigeria
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Which smart arse know it all twat f**ked up the forum ?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2018, 12:13:05 pm »
OK . . .

Which smart arse know it all twat f**ked up the forum ?
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2018, 06:54:45 am »
My guess would be you.  You run that Global Gulag site.  It's primary purpose seems to be to trash Alex Jones.  And you endorse Islamic terrorism.  You used to be a moderator here, but I see that that's no longer the case.  Since you were the first to post after this forum came back up, my guess would be that you had a hand in crashing it.

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Re: Thanks for your work to get us up!
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2018, 03:52:26 pm »
Thanks



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RXGfaVN0zU

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a streetlamp
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never share
No one dare
Disturb the sound of silence

"Fools" said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words like silent raindrops fell
And echoed in the wells of silence

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said "The words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whispered in the sounds of silence"



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Re: Thanks for your work to get us up!
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2018, 04:54:56 pm »
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: Thanks for your work to get us up!
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2018, 07:31:28 pm »
St. Augustine: -The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
Let it loose; it will defend itself.-

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2018, 10:23:57 pm »
Possibly the Chinese.

I'm glad the admin got it working again. Still don't have guests back, though. :(

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2018, 10:27:15 pm »
Also, as a security precaution, I recommend everyone use a VPN/VPS/proxy and/or TOR or another decentralized network when accessing the forum. It's possible that whoever still did this has a backdoor.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2018, 03:02:27 pm »
UTF Pollution problem is still plaguing the forum.

* sarcastic cat  sayz :
Plz continue to post wierdo UTF, especially in the subject titles which are not scrubbed quiet as clean before being inserted via SQL into the database.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2018, 07:42:57 pm »
UTF Pollution problem is still plaguing the forum.

* sarcastic cat  sayz :
Plz continue to post wierdo UTF, especially in the subject titles which are not scrubbed quiet as clean before being inserted via SQL into the database.

EG, if you're only here to complain, why don't you go back to your cathouse? I hear there's a crazy lady there waiting for you.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2018, 10:37:22 pm »
EG, if you're only here to complain, why don't you go back to your cathouse? I hear there's a crazy lady there waiting for you.

now all this is very undeserved ,,, so stop it . there is a utf problem and EG had nothing to do with it .
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2018, 09:48:02 am »
now all this is very undeserved ,,, so stop it . there is a utf problem and EG had nothing to do with it .

Indeed...seems like a limitation in the software. Or maybe bad settings.

But that's not what I was referring to. Most of EG's posts here are anti-Trump, anti-conservative, anti-Alex Jones (not just here but particularly on his forum as well). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like the only purpose he serves is to divide.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2018, 10:37:10 pm »
Just sent some more emails to Infowars and their Facebook and website. Hopefully, they will fix this stupid problem. I'd like to see more visitors here again...my posts need traffic. :D

Does anyone have a direct line to any of the staff? I think you do, JT.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2018, 10:54:57 pm »
It seems pretty obvious that nobody at Infowars cares to fix the forum problem. Essentially, it's been shadowbanned from search engines. I almost wonder if this was done intentionally. There is a lot of good info here, maybe it's too real for Infowars?

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2018, 06:40:43 am »
It seems pretty obvious that nobody at Infowars cares to fix the forum problem. Essentially, it's been shadowbanned from search engines. I almost wonder if this was done intentionally. There is a lot of good info here, maybe it's too real for Infowars?

Infowars used to have the forum linked on its front page, and the link lead to an embedded page. When infowars decided to un-link the forum its web ranking naturally fell like a brick trying to swim.

Other things certainly did not help, like the SpamBots posts and a few other factors. During the siege of the spambots, what was needed was a software upgrade so that we could ask unique CAPTCHA questions - infowars ignored the forum, we had to wait years for the upgrade.

Like I said, lots of things happened that lowered the forum ranking. Another example was Mike Adams getting Infowars to start a rival social media site, that collapsed, but did a mega amount of damage to the forum.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2018, 07:03:17 am »
that pretty much sums it up ... people need to push links to the forum thread to get more visits
I have links on my web pages that point to prisonplanet and the search bots pick up the links

this still shows up in oogle ...


search: Mao was a Yale Man

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2018, 08:22:52 am »
I am just glad to be back on board!  I certainly miss you guys.
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2018, 09:44:06 am »
Infowars used to have the forum linked on its front page, and the link lead to an embedded page. When infowars decided to un-link the forum its web ranking naturally fell like a brick trying to swim.

Other things certainly did not help, like the SpamBots posts and a few other factors. During the siege of the spambots, what was needed was a software upgrade so that we could ask unique CAPTCHA questions - infowars ignored the forum, we had to wait years for the upgrade.

Like I said, lots of things happened that lowered the forum ranking. Another example was Mike Adams getting Infowars to start a rival social media site, that collapsed, but did a mega amount of damage to the forum.

I remember when articles linked to the forum. That was a much better system, if they integrated it, they could make an entire social network using Simple Machines Forum in fact with some mods.

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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2018, 09:42:50 pm »
I am just glad to be back on board!  I certainly miss you guys.

Welcome back, donnay. Didn't know you were locked out.
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Re: Why Have the Forum Guest Accounts Suddenly Vanished?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2018, 11:42:55 am »
I remember when articles linked to the forum. That was a much better system, if they integrated it, they could make an entire social network using Simple Machines Forum in fact with some mods.

That is a much better system.

When they had the comments under the articles, it was truly awful, it was like visiting a KKK Rally due to lack of moderation.
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