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Government Shutdown?
« on: January 20, 2018, 06:27:56 am »
LOL: Really, if only it was true!
If I remember correctly the president has more discretionary spending power, did that get buried intentionally?
I have to think this is going to put the enemy left into derision, LOL, everything the enemy tries is blowing up in their face, I have to think this will also.   
What do you under-stand?

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2018, 06:50:02 am »
https://www.infowars.com/schumer-in-2013-shutting-down-govt-would-be-chaos/

Hypocrisy never is lacking

 A few years ago Senator Chuck Schumer had a different take on shutting down the government to score political points – he didn’t want Republicans to do it.

Responding to GOP efforts to delay a spending bill over the need to defund Obamacare, “Cryin’ Chuck” Schumer compared Republicans shutting down the government to a burglar demanding your house.



“Basically, it’s sort of like this: someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage and then says, let’s negotiate over the price of your house,” Schumer told ABC This Week’s George Stephanopolous.

“You know, we could do the same thing on immigration. We believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say, ‘We’re shutting down the government, we’re not gonna raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.’ It would be governmental chaos.”

Fast-forward to 2018, and the Senate Minority Leader is holding the government hostage if Republicans don’t cave to his Dreamer amnesty demands.
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 07:00:23 am »
Let's make some permanent shutdown on some departments and agencies that are a waste anyway.
Just some at the top of my list
Department of Education
EPA
FDA
OSHA
NASA
and a bottomless money pit of unbelievable number of agencies
https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies/a
A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies
Opportunity is knocking!
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 07:09:11 am »
Now you have to think:
What is going on in the background?
What is this diverting attention from?
What are the PROs and CONs?
And Who Knows What?
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 08:04:18 am »
     But will they still deliver the mail?


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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 08:24:09 am »
White House:
Dems Are ‘Obstructionist Losers’ For Forcing Shutdown

SAAGAR ENJETI - 01/20/2018

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders released a scathing statement blaming Senate Democrats for forcing a government shutdown early Saturday morning.

“Senate Democrats own the Schumer Shutdown. Tonight, they put politics above our national security, military families, vulnerable children, and our country’s ability to serve all Americans,” Sanders said in a statement. “We will not negotiate the status of unlawful immigrants while Democrats hold our lawful citizens hostage over their reckless demands. This is the behavior of obstructionist losers, not legislators.”

Democratic lawmakers forced a shutdown amidst frustration over lack of progress in reaching a deal to protect illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as minors. White House director of legislative affairs Marc Short however told reporters Friday there were no specific demands of bill text to negotiate over the shutdown saying it was more about “politics, not policy.”

Schumer himself did not appear to demand anything in particular to end the shutdown telling reporters “every American knows the Republican Party controls the White House, the Senate, the House,” adding “it’s their job to keep the government open.”

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Office of Management and Budget director Mick Mulvaney said the Trump administration would keep some services open like national parks and the TSA. Federal workers, including U.S. troops, firefighters, and border patrol authorities, will however be forced to work without pay.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/20/white-house-dems-are-obstructionist-losers-for-forcing-shutdown/?utm_content=buffer8404f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 08:54:32 am »

AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana

"The Democrats have shut this down solely on
the basis of DACA and immigration.”


Pat Caddell on Shutdown:
Democrats Have ‘Lost Control of Their Base’

ROBERT KRAYCHIK - 20 Jan 2018

Democrats “have lost control” of their base and membership, said veteran pollster Pat Caddell while commenting on the day’s “government shutdown.” Caddell’s remarks came in a Friday interview with Breitbart News’s Senior Editor-at-Large Rebecca Mansour on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight.

“They have got themselves locked in on this question about DACA,” said Caddell, pointing to broad Democrat prioritization of pursuing legislative amnesty for illegal immigrants styled after the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) policy.

Democrats will politically damage themselves by prioritizing pursuit of a DACA-style amnesty bill while neglecting border security, said Caddell. Widespread Democrat support for “sanctuary cities,” he added, is an unpopular position across the broader public.

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“Yes, DACA itself is very popular, but so are the positions that Trump has laid out that also need to be part of any deal,” said Caddell. “Those are also popular. Sanctuary cities are not popular. Simply amnesty by itself is not popular. Most of all, protecting the border is popular, whether people like the idea of a wall or not.”


What did they think Lindsey Graham was going to do?” asked Caddell rhetorically. “What did they think Jeff Flake was going to to? They came in to try and sandbag the president. That was the Republicans helping the Democrats sandbag the president.”

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/01/20/pat-caddell-on-shutdown-democrats-have-lost-control-of-their-base/
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 11:02:04 am »

St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 12:58:33 pm »
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 01:00:50 pm »
Schumer on 2013 Shutdown: “You Shouldn’t Hold Millions of People Hostage” Over and Issue (Video) #SchumerShutdown
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/schumer-2013-shutdown-shouldnt-hold-millions-people-hostage-issue-video-schumershutdown/


Chuckie is such a hypocrite non leader!  ::)

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 08:35:22 pm »
Tell Chuck Schumer that government can no longer afford for people like himself to have two citizenships. Choose one or the other.

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Re: US Public Officials That Hold ***dual US/Israeli citizenship***
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 09:54:56 pm »
Tell Chuck Schumer that government can no longer afford for people like himself to have two citizenships. Choose one or the other.

First I thought, “No way!” Then I thought, “Way!” Older article follows with a recent update. Can't possibly be “america first” with split loyalties like that. This definitely explains a lot! Who ever decided that dual citizens were OK to hold public office in this country?!? When did this happen?? I'm pretty sure the nation of Israel DOESN'T reciprocate. I don't see any Americans in the Knesset over there!

Members in US politics who hold dual US/Israeli citizenship:
Published - December 14, 2014 Updated -  January 19, 2018

June 2013
Past and Present:
1.Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis

Current members as best I could find:
Senate:
•Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
•Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
•Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
•Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
•Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
•Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
•Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
•Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
•Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
•Senator Bernard Sanders (Vermont) (Independent)
•Senator Charles Schumer (New York)
•Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)


House of Representatives:
•Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
•Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
•Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
•Representative Howard Berman (California)
•Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
•Representative Susan Davis (California)
•Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
•Representative Bob Filner (California)
•Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
•Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
•Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
•Representative Jane Harman (California)
•Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
•Representative Steve Israel (New York)
•Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
•Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
•Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
•Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
•Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
•Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
•Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
•Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
•Representative Adam Schiff (California)
•Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
•Representative Brad Sherman (California)
•Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
•Representative Henry Waxman (California)
•Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
•Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)
zatetic June 2013
http://jewishcurrents.org/the-112th-congress-3476

All the jews in congress are democrats or independents (basically democrats) except one, Eric Cantor. He may be the highest ranking Tea Partier elected lol.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/members-in-us-politics-who-hold-dual-usisraeli-citizenship/
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Why Do Dual Citizens Have Access to Highly Sensitive Intelligence Information?
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2018, 10:33:56 pm »
Am I the only one that sees a major problem here? According to wiki:

Under the "gang of eight" system,  the executive branch of the United States discloses highly sensitive intelligence information to the following positions within the US congress:[6]
United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:
Devin Nunes (R, CA-22): (Chair)
Adam Schiff (D, CA-28): (Ranking member) DUAL CITIZEN

United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence:
Richard Burr (R, NC): (Chair)
Mark Warner (D, VA): (Vice Chairman)

Leadership in the United States House of Representatives:
Paul Ryan (R, WI-1): (Speaker of the House)
Nancy Pelosi (D, CA-12): (Minority leader)

Leadership in the United States Senate:
Mitch McConnell (R, KY): (Majority leader)
Chuck Schumer (D, NY): (Minority leader) DUAL CITIZEN

And yet....

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October 26, 2011

Earlier this year, the US Army issued a revised personnel regulation in which the Army announced that dual citizens of the United States and another country are not permitted to enlist in the Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard into jobs that require a security clearance “unless they already possess a security clearance.”  The regulation is important because it potentially bars millions of Americans from most Army jobs:  The vast majority of Army jobs require a security clearance–including officer appointments, Special Forces, Military Intelligence, and Military Police jobs, but also most others.

https://www.immigrationedge.com/2011/10/26/us-army-bars-dual-us-citizens-from-most-jobs/
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2018, 08:25:58 am »
... PrezTRUMP wants the Senate to change the STUPID
60% CLOTURE rule (60 votes needed to prevent so-called
'filibuster') to bring bills to a vote ... this is the EXACT reason
our govt is a laughing stock around the world ... it is
IMPOSSIBLE to move anything thru the SENATE:


Trump:
‘Dems Just Want Illegal Immigrants To Pour Into Our Nation’

ROBERT DONACHIE - 01/21/2018

President Donald Trump doubled-down on blaming Democrats for the government shutdown Sunday morning, warning Senate Democrats that Republicans could move forward with a “nuclear option” if they continue to balk on a short-term spending bill.

“Great to see how hard Republicans are fighting for our Military and Safety at the Border. The Dems just want illegal immigrants to pour into our nation unchecked. If stalemate continues, Republicans should go to 51% (Nuclear Option) and vote on real, long term budget, no C.R.’s,” Trump tweeted Sunday morning.


http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/21/trump-dems-just-want-illegal-immigrants-to-pour-into-our-nation/?utm_content=buffer6d88d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Am I the only one that sees a major problem here? According to wiki:

Under the "gang of eight" system,  the executive branch of the United States discloses highly sensitive intelligence information to the following positions within the US congress:[6]
United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:
Devin Nunes (R, CA-22): (Chair)
Adam Schiff (D, CA-28): (Ranking member) DUAL CITIZEN

United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence:
Richard Burr (R, NC): (Chair)
Mark Warner (D, VA): (Vice Chairman)

Leadership in the United States House of Representatives:
Paul Ryan (R, WI-1): (Speaker of the House)
Nancy Pelosi (D, CA-12): (Minority leader)

Leadership in the United States Senate:
Mitch McConnell (R, KY): (Majority leader)
Chuck Schumer (D, NY): (Minority leader) DUAL CITIZEN

And yet....
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October 26, 2011

Earlier this year, the US Army issued a revised personnel regulation in which the Army announced that dual citizens of the United States and another country are not permitted to enlist in the Army, Army Reserve, or Army National Guard into jobs that require a security clearance “unless they already possess a security clearance.”  The regulation is important because it potentially bars millions of Americans from most Army jobs:  The vast majority of Army jobs require a security clearance–including officer appointments, Special Forces, Military Intelligence, and Military Police jobs, but also most others.

https://www.immigrationedge.com/2011/10/26/us-army-bars-dual-us-citizens-from-most-jobs/



Reference >> http://www.multiplecitizenship.com/wscl/ws_USA.html

"While recognizing the existence of dual citizenship and permitting Americans to have other citizenships, the U.S. Government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy because of the problems that it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual-national U.S. citizens often place them in situations where their obligations to one country are in conflict with the laws of the other."

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2018, 11:13:21 am »
Of course this is what they should have done the first day they had a senate majority ( plus Trump) BUT McTurkey neck  used this as political leverage against Trump McTurkey neck has created ALL this chaos  and GOP senate failures ,!!! ,,,

Remember McLame making deciding vote on NOT ending BomaNoKare




 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-21/key-day-could-yield-fast-deal-or-long-impasse-shutdown-update
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The so-called nuclear option would allow the Senate to vote on spending bills with a simple majority of members, no longer needing 60 votes.


... PrezTRUMP wants the Senate to change the STUPID
60% CLOTURE rule (60 votes needed to prevent so-called
'filibuster') to bring bills to a vote ... this is the EXACT reason
our govt is a laughing stock around the world ... it is
IMPOSSIBLE to move anything thru the SENATE:



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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2018, 05:50:29 pm »
GOP Lawmaker Suspends Paycheck Until Military Gets Paid Too #SchumerShutdown

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/gop-lawmaker-suspends-paycheck-military-gets-paid-schumershutdown/


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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2018, 06:00:18 pm »


^   ^   ^

Well-said Jo!

Just goes to show the disdain and non-caring for our armed forces that they have been famous for.  What else to expect from Traitors?

The deplorable care that our veterans have received (for how long?) from these Traitors shows the same mindset.  These "demotraitors" have GOT TO GO!  Hopefully, they will be prosecuted and pay the penalty for the Traitors they are.

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Reference >> http://www.multiplecitizenship.com/wscl/ws_USA.html

"While recognizing the existence of dual citizenship and permitting Americans to have other citizenships, the U.S. Government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy because of the problems that it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual-national U.S. citizens often place them in situations where their obligations to one country are in conflict with the laws of the other."


The contrast is staggering.

On the one hand we have low-level grunts that cannot have access to some military equipment manual marked “secret”. Remember the sailor that inadvertently took photos of the inside of a nuclear sub? He went to jail. And, AFAIK, strictly a US citizen.
 
Then we have people with openly split loyalties to different nations handed authority to create US law and given full, unfettered access to the most sensitive black projects that don't officially exist. These people are not even subject to compartmentalization because it's supposed to be their job to “oversee” each and every covert operation not officially carried out by this government. Leaking such information would, by definition, cause "exceptionally grave damage" to United States national security.

And nobody sees a problem with this....
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2018, 11:32:10 pm »

One Revelator,

It might be possible that no one sees a problem with it because they think they can get away with it and it all be swept under the rug.  Their master is one who would promote this lie.  Just thinking this might be the reason it seems this way right now.

They pretend not to see a problem because it is very serious.  There is only one punishment for treason, which all their nefarious acts amount to.  That punishment is death.   Any attorney that cannot make this case is no attorney imho.   It is not just leaking information or a national security risk.  The agenda is plainly seen in over-the-top actions taken to destroy America = treason.  This means destroying the citizens and populace of America.  Who/why would want to do *that?*  Only enemies of the State.

The treasonous cabal in Congress needs to be arrested and prosecuted for treason along with all their other crimes.  Treason is the only crime a congressperson can be arrested for on the congressional floor.  Personally, I do not think that they should get off with a lesser sentence, either.  Did they care about the all the hits perpetrated and their grieving families?  no.   Did they care about all the people who lost their homes in foreclosures, land ripped off like the Bundys, destruction of families via CPS gestapo operations? no.  Did they care about horrible situations with our veterans? no.  They sure didn't care about the people killed and hurt during 9/11 either...  Other people and their lives don't matter to arrogant, psychopathic "them."  Better believe it, "Lock Her Up" means a whole lot more than just jail time.  The only sentence for treason is death.  I believe, by hanging...not sure.

These indeed, are perilous times.

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2018, 06:52:10 am »
“The Schumer shutdown has revealed the totality of the
Democrats’ agenda: animosity and amnesty.”


'SCHUMER SHUTDOWN' BACKFIRES ON DEMS
Blaming Republicans for starving kids is not working in 2018

WASHINGTON – Democrats in the House and Senate thought they would play the old government-shutdown card that has worked for them every time it has been played since 1995 when Republicans were blamed.

But 2018 is different. It is backfiring.

It’s no longer Republicans starving children and forcing old people to eat dog food. This time, Democrats are being blamed for refusing to fund the U.S. military as a means of aiding illegal aliens.

That’s the way it is being successfully explained by the Trump administration – and it’s resonating.

Here’s how White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders explained it: “The President’s position is clear: we will not negotiate on the status of unlawful immigrants while Sen. (Chuck) Schumer and the Democrats hold the government for millions of Americans and our troops hostage.”

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A column by Tommy Hicks Jr., went on to say: “The Schumer shutdown is a preview of what we can expect should the Democrats wrest control of the legislative branch in November. It’s no laughing matter.”

Vice President Mike Pence is in the Middle East this weekend:

“I’m sure you’re all aware of what’s going on in Washington D.C.,” Pence told the soldiers. “Despite bipartisan support for a budget resolution, a minority in the Senate has decided to play politics with military pay. But you deserve better. You and your families shouldn’t have to worry for one minute about whether you’re going to get paid because you serve in the uniform of the United States. So know this: Your president, your vice president and the American people are not going to put up with it.”

Applause broke out among the soldiers.

“We’re going to demand that they reopen the government,” the vice president continued. “In fact, we’re not going to reopen negotiations on illegal immigration until they reopen the government and give you, our soldiers, and your families the benefits and wages you’ve earned.”


http://www.wnd.com/2018/01/schumer-shutdown-backfires-on-dems/
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2018, 07:33:33 am »
WHITE HOUSE CHANGES PUBLIC VOICEMAIL TO SAY DEMS HOLDING GOVT ‘HOSTAGE’ - ‘Due to this obstruction, the government is shut down,’ says voice message

https://www.infowars.com/white-house-changes-public-voicemail-to-say-dems-holding-govt-hostage/

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2018, 08:27:04 am »
Mulvaney: Trump won’t ‘weaponize’ shutdown like Obama team did
https://truepundit.com/mulvaney-trump-wont-weaponize-shutdown-like-obama-team/
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2018, 10:08:38 am »
One Revelator,

It might be possible that no one sees a problem with it because they think they can get away with it and it all be swept under the rug.  Their master is one who would promote this lie.  Just thinking this might be the reason it seems this way right now.

They pretend not to see a problem because it is very serious.  There is only one punishment for treason, which all their nefarious acts amount to.  That punishment is death.   Any attorney that cannot make this case is no attorney imho.   It is not just leaking information or a national security risk.  The agenda is plainly seen in over-the-top actions taken to destroy America = treason.  This means destroying the citizens and populace of America.  Who/why would want to do *that?*  Only enemies of the State.

The treasonous cabal in Congress needs to be arrested and prosecuted for treason along with all their other crimes.  Treason is the only crime a congressperson can be arrested for on the congressional floor.  Personally, I do not think that they should get off with a lesser sentence, either.  Did they care about the all the hits perpetrated and their grieving families?  no.   Did they care about all the people who lost their homes in foreclosures, land ripped off like the Bundys, destruction of families via CPS gestapo operations? no.  Did they care about horrible situations with our veterans? no.  They sure didn't care about the people killed and hurt during 9/11 either...  Other people and their lives don't matter to arrogant, psychopathic "them."  Better believe it, "Lock Her Up" means a whole lot more than just jail time.  The only sentence for treason is death.  I believe, by hanging...not sure.

These indeed, are perilous times.

love, e


Again you hit the nail on the head; the simplicity of the matter is that this is treason and it give me pause and wonder why the Trump military has not fully stepped in?
I think there is enough to topple this coup.
I still wonder why Sessions is what he is? I know Q said not to worry about him but Q seems comprised also; what this BS he has been putting out lately?
I say the Sargent in arm comes into Congress and start the arrests, it's time!
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2018, 10:15:42 am »
https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/poll-most-voters-agree-trump-end-chain-migration-reduce-overall-immigration
POLL: Most voters agree with Trump -- END Chain Migration, REDUCE overall immigration
Tue, Jan 2nd 2018 @ 7:39 pm EST  by  Roy Beck

Every time Pres. Trump tweets that any DACA deal has to include the elimination of Chain Migration and the Visa Lottery, he's speaking the mind of most Americans who say they are likely to vote in this fall's midterm elections, according to a new poll.

By nearly a 2-to-1 margin, likely voters said any legalization of young-adult illegal immigrants should include an end to Chain Migration of extended family members beyond spouse and minor children.
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But the new poll found that only 27% of likely midterm voters said annual legal immigration should remain at one million or more per year.


https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2018/01/illegal-aliens-quietly-relocated-throughout-u-s-commercial-flights/
Illegal Aliens Quietly Being Relocated Throughout U.S. on Commercial Flights
JANUARY 19, 2018

Immigrants entering the United States illegally through the southern border are quietly being relocated to different parts of the country on commercial flights, high-ranking Homeland Security officials told Judicial Watch this week. In the last few days alone, groups of illegal aliens boarded planes at airports in Texas and Arizona accompanied by a taxpayer-funded government escort in civilian clothes to avoid drawing attention. The first flight originated at Valley International Airport in Harlingen, Texas and was bound for Minneapolis. The second left from Tucson International Airport and arrived in Salt Lake City, Utah, federal sources said. In both locations the illegal aliens appeared to be in their late teens and were escorted by a Health and Human Services (HHS) chaperone. Judicial Watch reached out to HHS for comment but did not hear back from the agency.

The illegal aliens wear red HHS wrist bands and receive “the gold glove treatment,” according to a veteran federal official, who added that the undocumented immigrants get priority boarding ahead of all other passengers, including law enforcement personnel. “It is shameful and dangerous,” said a seasoned Homeland Security agent with direct knowledge of the secret operations. Labor personnel from front-line Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agencies have complained about the cost and security risk of flying illegal alien minors to any destination of their choosing within the U.S., according to a longtime Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official present at the meetings. One of the closed-door meetings, late last year, included President Donald Trump and his chief of staff, John Kelly.

It appears that the Trump administration has chosen to ignore the concerns of rank-and-file federal agents, instead opting to quietly extend the controversial Obama-era policy that relocates illegal immigrants to unsuspecting communities nationwide. It is known as “Catch and Release” and frustrated DHS sources tell Judicial Watch the Trump administration is essentially facilitating the ongoing commission of a federal immigration crime despite its tough border security rhetoric. In a recent newspaper article Border Patrol agents in Texas say they’ve been ordered to release illegal immigrants caught entering through Mexico because there is no bed space at detention facilities. This has provoked a surge in illegal crossings, Border Patrol officials say, because there is no punishment to deter the lawbreakers.
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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2018, 12:01:29 pm »
Let's make some permanent shutdown on some departments and agencies that are a waste anyway.
Just some at the top of my list
Department of Education
EPA
FDA
OSHA
NASA
and a bottomless money pit of unbelievable number of agencies
https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies/a
A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies
Opportunity is knocking!

This is the BEST idea!
Please add Child Protective Services to the list.  It hurts, not protects children.  It is a funnel for disappearing kids into the child trafficking black hole.  Yes we do care about children.  And, we already have laws and police to protect them.  We do not need a gestapo operation running around destroying families and operating on quotas for their future funding.

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Re: Government Shutdown?
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2018, 10:23:13 pm »
You know Reagan ran on shutting the Department of Education down and was elected.
If we do not shut this evil down it's only a matter of time and we are done for.
Everyone knows, that knows anything it is all wrong, so why are we playing the game?
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