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The 9-11 Commission and the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« on: April 26, 2016, 05:59:11 pm »
9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

The 28 pages and the 9-11 Commission ....

The investigators who worked the 28 pages....

Dana Lesemann and Michael Jacobson
https://28pagesdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/document-17.pdf

On getting access to the 28 pages...

Weeks after she had requested a copy, Zelikow had still not obtained it for the commission. Finally, Lesemann stopped him in the hallway.

"Philip, how are we supposed to do our work if you won't provide us with basic research material?" she said. Her colleagues said that Zelikow stormed away.
  page 111
http://www.amazon.com/Commission-Uncensored-History-11-Investigation/dp/0446580759/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Vice Chairman of the 9-11 Commission, and his lack of interest in the 28 pages....

1/7/15
“I do not favor the declassification” of the the congressional probe’s pages, he said in a telephone interview. He added that he had "never read" that section of the other probe and “I don’t know what’s in it." ---- Vice Chairman of The 9-11 Commission Lee Hamilton on 28 pages
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Was he supposed to be interested in those 28 pages?....

1/7/15
“I don’t know what’s in it….No one ever came to me and said you ought to read these pages.” - Vice Chairman of The 9-11 Commission Lee Hamilton
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

Now he tells a different story...

9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016

We deemed vigorously pursuing the congressional panel’s leads so important that we hired the person who drafted the 28 pages to work on our staff, along with the person who had assisted him. They were part of a team, overseen by a veteran former federal prosecutor with experience in terrorism cases.
-statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, who served as chairman and vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

along with the person who had assisted him....that would be Dana Lesemann...they forgot to mention this....

Dana Lesemann was fired by Zelikow, when she obtained access to the 28 pages on her own (she had the proper security clearances and it was based on her work anyway) and she was replaced by Raj De.

On Fahad Thumairy..
9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016


The congressional panel did not interview Thumairy—or any other Saudi. 9/11 Commission staff did interview him in Saudi Arabia. So did the FBI. But we had to acknowledge in our report that “we ha[d] found no evidence that Thumairy provided assistance to the two operatives.” (p. 217)--- statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

They could have said Thumairy lied to them through out their interview but that would be rude to our Saudi friend....

"Our general impression of Thumairy is that he was deceptive during both interviews." Page 2/9
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610841

They reference page 217 of their whitewash report (p. 217) in implying no evidence on Thumairy -- the page that says....

On May 6, 2003,Thumairy attempted to reenter the United States from Saudi Arabia but was refused entry, based on a determination by the State Department that he might be connected with terrorist activity.

The circumstantial evidence makes Thumairy a logical person to consider as a possible contact for Hazmi and Mihdhar.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

In their footnotes they admit that even after 9-11 Saudi Arabia decided they wanted radical imams to come to America, ......

After 9/11, arguments arose within the Saudi government over whether to allow reputedly radical imams, including Thumairy, to work for the Saudi government in the United States. FBI letterhead memorandum, investigation of Mohammed bin Suleiman al Muhanna, July 9, 2003. In May 2003, the U.S. government settled the matter, at least in Thumairy’s case, by refusing to let him back into the country.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

"arguments arose within the Saudi government over whether to allow reputedly radical imams..."  So evidently the argument that "yes, radical Imams should go to America" won out, because he was blocked for re-entry by U.S. authorities in the State Department, not Saudi Arabia.

In the footnotes they also give their "Smoking Gun" reason for concluding they "found no evidence that Thumairy provided assistance to the two operatives.”

"We have checked, for example, the records for apartments where Thumairy is known to have placed Saudi visitors during 2001."
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

Oh? So Thumairy placed Saudi visitors in apartments? How interesting. Even in 2001? Since "the two operatives" arrived in Los Angeles on Jan 15 2000, and were only in L.A. for 2 weeks before moving to San Diego to live with an FBI informant thanks to Saudi Agent Bayoumi, maybe instead of checking "the records for apartments where Thumairy is known to have placed Saudi visitors during 2001", it would have made more sense to be interested in where he placed Saudi visitors during 2000? Since that is when the "operatives" were there.

They want to be helpful and give us some recommendations....

9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016


We also recommend that the background and context developed in the ongoing FBI investigation and contained in the work of the 9/11 Commission and the 9/11 Review Commission be included. That information will help advance a fact-based public debate on this very important issue. -- -statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, who served as chairman and vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

So, is this is a call for Prince Bandar's interview with The 9-11 Commission to be declassified?

Memorandum for the Record (MFR) of the Interview of Prince Bandar of the Government of Saudi Arabia Conducted by Team N/A
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610777

They tend to leave important facts out of their statement..

9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016


"we hired the person who drafted the 28 pages to work on our staff" --Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

The person they are referring to is Michael Jacobson 

From Philip Shenon's book The Commission.....

Jacobson and De felt they had explosive material on the Saudis: the actions by Omar al-Bayoumi, the Saudi "ghost employee" who played host to the two hijackers in San Diego, and Fahad al-Thumairy, the shadowy Saudi diplomat in Los Angeles. Jacobson and De had documentation of the unusual cash transfers from the wife of the Saudi ambassador in Washington to the family of another mysterious Saudi who was tied to al-Bayoumi. - page 398
http://www.amazon.com/Commission-Uncensored-History-11-Investigation/dp/0446580759/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Why don't they just give names? I'll go ahead and do it, they seem to want to be a bit vague.

9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016


"They were part of a team, overseen by a veteran former federal prosecutor with experience in terrorism cases." -statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, who served as chairman and vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

"overseen by a veteran former federal prosecutor" --- That would be D. Snell.....

They have helpful advice for us.....

9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016


"For those interested to learn what is in the 28 pages, we encourage you to read Chapters 5 and 7 of that report"
- statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

Just before publication of the 9-11 Commission report....

Snell and Zelikow were in the office, rewriting the report. Snell had presented an alternative draft of the chapter and removed virtually all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis. -page 398
http://www.amazon.com/Commission-Uncensored-History-11-Investigation/dp/0446580759/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

The amount of BS we are dealing with is staggering....

After Snell "removed virtually all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis."

Snell swears under oath Iran was involved in the 9-11 attacks.

July 2010
Affidavit of Dietrick L. Snell

My assignment at the Commission culminated in June and July of 2004 with the drafting and editing of those portions of The 9/11 Commission Report (the "Report")that dealt with the plot. See Report, chapters 5 and 7.


Given the formidable complexity of the 9/11 plot, it makes eminent sense to consider the possibility that foreign government assistance of some sort may have played some role in the plot’s execution. The 9/11 Commission certainly recognized this possibility and was sensitive to any evidence pointing in that direction.

In sum, based on my experience as an investigator, prosecutor and senior staff member of the 9/11 Commission staff, I believe Mr. Byman, Ms. Kephart-Roberts and Mr. Clawson are correct in their analysis that there is clear and convincing evidence pointing to involvement on the part of Hezbollah and Iran in the 9/11 attack
http://information.iran911case.com/Exhibit_5.pdf

His Affidavit also claims that his testimony in Germany proved helpful in convicting Mounir El Motassadeq, of being guilty of being part of the 9-11 plot, not that he had anything to do with Iran, but Snell is giving his "expert" credentials........

"My testimony addressed the findings of the 9/11 Commission with respect to the formation and execution of the 9/11 plot, and the evidence obtained by the Commission with respect to the complicity of Motassadeq in that plot. In its August 2005 decision announcing its guilty verdict against Motassadeq, the German court specifically cited my testimony as having proved helpful to the court in arriving at its decision."
http://information.iran911case.com/Exhibit_5.pdf

Actually Snell's testimony was a reason Motassadeq was not convicted of complicity in that plot. He was convicted of being a member of a terrorist group, and acquitted of involvement in the 9-11 plot, thanks mostly to Snell and the so called transparency(not) of the 9-11 Commission....

9/11 Panel's Findings Strain German Case

German authorities and the judges had pressed the Sept. 11 commission since last summer to send an emissary to Hamburg to testify about the commission's landmark report released last summer. But after the first of Snell's two days of scheduled testimony, it was the defense that seemed most pleased with what he had to say.


"Today's statements have been very good for us," said Udo Jacob, an attorney for Motassadeq.

On Tuesday, Ernst-Rainer Schudt, the presiding judge, repeatedly prodded Snell to provide background information about the commission's sources and findings. Snell declined for the most part, replying that such information was classified and that he was largely restricted to testifying about details in the commission's published report.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18219-2005Mar8.html

"But after the first of Snell's two days of scheduled testimony, it was the defense that seemed most pleased with what he had to say"........  Now -Snell's second day of testimony.....

9/11 Lawyer Bolsters Hamburg Defendant's Alibi

The statements by Dietrich Snell, who headed the bipartisan panel's investigation into the Hamburg cell and was on the stand for a second day, bolstered the alibi given by the defendant, Mounir Motassadeq, who is being tried on more than 3,000 counts of accessory to murder for allegedly aiding the hijackers.

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-9141.html

That's why Motassadeq was sentenced to 7 years. Being convicted of killing 3000 people would get you more than 7 years.

Hamburg state court sentenced Mounir el Motassadeq to seven years in prison for membership in the al-Qaida cell that included suicide pilots Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah.

However, it acquitted him of more than 3,000 counts of accessory to murder, ruling the evidence did not show the 31-year-old was specifically involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, plot.

"How are we supposed to do justice to our task when important documents are withheld from us?" Schudt asked after Friday's verdict.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1466895/posts

Again...Snell's sworn Affidavit...

"My testimony addressed the findings of the 9/11 Commission with respect to the formation and execution of the 9/11 plot, and the evidence obtained by the Commission with respect to the complicity of Motassadeq in that plot."
http://information.iran911case.com/Exhibit_5.pdf

He tends to lie. Here is reality....

However, it acquitted him of more than 3,000 counts of accessory to murder, ruling the evidence did not show the 31-year-old was specifically involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, plot.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1466895/posts

1/7/15
“I don’t know what’s in it….No one ever came to me and said you ought to read these pages.
- Vice Chairman of The 9-11 Commission Lee Hamilton
http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170

9/11 Commission Chairs Issue Statement on 28 Pages
Friday, April 22, 2016

We deemed vigorously pursuing the congressional panel’s leads so important that we hired the person who drafted the 28 pages to work on our staff, along with the person who had assisted him. They were part of a team, overseen by a veteran former federal prosecutor with experience in terrorism cases. -statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, who served as chairman and vice chairman of the 9/11 Commission

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

April 22, 2016
"For those interested to learn what is in the 28 pages, we encourage you to read Chapters 5 and 7 of that report"
- statement by former Gov. Tom Kean and former Rep. Lee Hamilton
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/press-release/911-commission-chairs-issue-statement-on-28-pages/

July 2010
Affidavit of Dietrick L. Snell

My assignment at the Commission culminated in June and July of 2004 with the drafting and editing of those portions of The 9/11 Commission Report (the "Report")that dealt with the plot. See Report, chapters 5 and 7.

http://information.iran911case.com/Exhibit_5.pdf

Snell and Zelikow were in the office, rewriting the report. Snell had presented an alternative draft of the chapter and removed virtually all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis. -page 398
http://www.amazon.com/Commission-Uncensored-History-11-Investigation/dp/0446580759/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Can you be any more full of s&%t than these people?
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Re: The 9-11 Commission and the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2016, 04:46:17 am »
9-11 Commission - Protected Felons/Terrorists - Documents Show

Meet Osama Basnan and his wife

Osama Basnan according to FBI Agents investigating the 9-11 attacks is a Saudi Government Agent with close ties to high ranking Government Officials. He is also "an ardent UBL Supporter".

see:

FBI Document on Osama Basnan:

Connections of San Diego PENTTBOMB Subjects to the Government of Saudi Arabia

"has been in contact with UBL family members; ardent UBL supporter"
https://web.archive.org/web/20161223091602/https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf

FBI Reports:

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to ______________________). page 1/3
https://web.archive.org/web/20161223091602/https://web.archive.org/web/20140923071736/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2004-xx-FBI-memo-Penttbomb-Saudi2.pdf


This is the same document with different redaction's telling us more.....

4. Associations: Closely associated with ________________________Ambassador Prince Bandar).  page 2/6
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008082249/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-09-FBI-Saudi-Links-May-Be-Conflated.pdf

So put together we can eliminate some redactions....

4. Associations: Closely associated with___________________(former assistant to Ambassador Prince Bandar).

Al-Jubeir most likely is the name redacted here.

"In 1987, Al-Jubeir was appointed into the Saudi Diplomatic Service and posted to the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington, DC, where he served as Special Assistant to then Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adel_al-Jubeir

In the Joint Inquiry, where the 28 pages were from, his name is spelled Bassnan. And most likely he is in the 28 pages that go into more detail on Bassnan/Basnan and his association with Prince Bandar, and other Saudi Officials.

Here is just some of what the Joint Inquiry reported on Bassnan in the public report that was released....

Bassnan lived in the apartment complex in San Diego across the street from al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar page  228/558
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Bassnan also had close ties to a number of other persons connected to the hijackers ______________________________________________________________ page 227/858

In 1993, the FBI received reports that Bassnan had hosted a party for the “Blind Sheikh” in Washington, D.C. in 1992. page 228/858

The documents were in Arabic, and one, a newsletter to supporters of the Eritrean Islamic Jihad (EIJ) Movement, provided updates on the EIJ’s council and was marked “confidential.”  The box contained letters addressed to Bassnan that discussed plans to import used cars to the United States.  page 228/858

The Intelligence Community had information connecting Bin Ladin to the EIJ as of 1996.

In addition,FBI documents note that a high-level member of the EIJ was on Bin Ladin’s Shura Council. A May 2000 FBI document indicates that FBI Headquarters personnel were not handling EIJ matters due to resource constraints. page 229/858

"A May 2000 FBI document indicates that FBI Headquarters personnel were not handling EIJ matters" page 229/858
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

FBI Headquarters = Louis Freeh AKA Prince Bandar's Lawyer

Former FBI chief defends flow of money to Saudi ambassador
Freeh, who is now a lawyer and consultant for Bandar
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http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/07/nation/na-freeh7

After September 11, the FBI developed information clearly indicating that Bassnan is an extremist and a Bin Ladin supporter. page 229/858
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Much redactions concerning Bassnan even outside of the 28 pages.

Philip Zelikow and the 9-11 Commission takes the case.....

9-11 Commission meets with the Saudis

9-11 declassified released notes:

Nizar expressed disbelief about the allegations regarding Princess Haifa, noting that it was preposterous that she was involved in terrorism. Zelikow expressed understanding of this position and explained that the interest was primarily due to the unclear role of Osama Bassnan - if the Commission could learn more about his role, everything could be put in a clearer perspective."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/20556754/MFR-NARA-NA-Saudi-Arabia-Madani-Nizar-10-15-03-01186

According to the commissions own documents he has lots to lie about......

Basnan Interview with Commission:

"The interview failed to yield any new information of note. Instead, in the writer's opinion, it established beyond cavil the witness' utter lack of credibility on virtually every material subject."
https://research.archives.gov/id/2610794

So? Well, let's see what the 9-11 Commission says in rebuttal to the joint inquiry......

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

A search of the 9-11 Commission report shows that Bassnan/Basnan is not even mentioned in the report. He is mentioned in a footnote at the end of the book that said...

Contrary to highly publicized allegations, we have found no evidence that Hazmi or Mihdhar received money from another Saudi citizen, Osama Basnan.     Page 533/585
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/sept11/911Report.pdf

But AFAIK no one has claimed Hazmi or Mihdhar received money from Basnan. The story is it was Bayoumi,/wife, who got the money from Basnan/wife, who got the money from Prince Bandar/wife.

Notice how this buried footnote describes Basnan...

found no evidence that Hazmi or Mihdhar received money from another Saudi citizen, Osama Basnan.     Page 533/585
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/sept11/911Report.pdf

See? He's just a citizen of Saudi Arabia, and has nothing to do with the Government or Government Officials, or Intelligence agencies. Just a citizen, living in California at this time.

Despite what the FBI reports said.

However there is also this odd footnote as well, concerning a woman in California in contact with Ramzi BinalShibh........

A buried footnote in 9-11 commission:

From 9-11 Commission report:

"Even after the last application was rejected, Binalshibh sought ways to get a visa, such as by marrying a U.S. citizen. He corresponded by email with a woman in California, but Atta told him to discontinue this effort."-  footnote 52 page 536/585
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

Who is this woman in California Binalshibh is in contact with concerning a crime called marriage fraud?

What a coincidence! It turns out Basnan and his wife, in California, were both arrested after 9-11 and are convicted felons. It seems Basnan had a habit of doctoring visas, his wife among them, and she was ripping off the American Taxpaying Infidels by engaging in Marriage Fraud. Starting in 1997 to claim welfare benefits. She was already under investigation starting in Feb of 2000, according to court documents as seen here.....

https://www.scribd.com/doc/300723984/USA-VS-DWEIKAT

"Binalshibh sought ways to get a visa, such as by marrying a U.S. citizen. He corresponded by email with a woman in California"

This "woman in California" is Basnan's wife, a convicted felon for "marrying a U.S. citizen". This is confirmed by the FBI Agent that investigated Basnan who according to the 9-11 Commission's own declassified documents......

"When asked whether there were any other 9/11 leads he found interesting, ________stated that one interesting fact is that Osama Basnan's _________________________was in phone and e-mail contact with Ramzi Binalshibh in September 2000.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/20300246/Mfr-Nara-t1a-FBI-FBI-Special-Agent-63-11-17-03-00458

Looks like the 9-11 Commission "forgot" to mention "phone and e-mail"....and changed it to .."He corresponded by email with a woman in California"

Philip Zelikow is not just protecting Saudi Intelligence agents. He is protecting Saudi terrorists who are convicted felons.

"You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" - G Bush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPABLW6F_A

Six Laws with no Statute of Limitations

3. War Crimes: If you commit a series of crimes against humanity - a la Slobodan Milosevic - then you will never be forgiven just because you have lived a long happy life.

5. Treason: Some of our famous spy cases have been prosecuted decades after the events took place. We never forgive treason.
http://banktalk.org/2012/04/26/six-crimes-with-no-statute-of-limitations

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Re: The 9-11 Commission and the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2016, 06:44:23 am »
IMO, Zelikow should be investigated for his role in LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE in the 911 Commission Report. He was the coverup gatekeeper!

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=318
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Re: The 9-11 Commission and the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry
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