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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #400 on: June 09, 2017, 10:49:34 am »
So May is sabotaged by Jihadi attacks right up to the s-election ...  hmmm ...

http://www.drudgereport.com

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« Reply #401 on: June 11, 2017, 09:53:10 am »
Will Boris fill the void ? ? ?
I don't know why , But I like Boris ... Maybe 'cause his name is Boris ...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4592016/Boris-set-launch-bid-PM-clings-on.html
Boris bids to be PM: Johnson team circles wounded Theresa May as she's forced to sacrifice key aides to keep her job as Tory leader

    Last night was 'go-go-go' for Mr Johnson's leadership push, a close ally said
    But the Foreign Secretary will not take any action while Theresa May remains
    MoS poll found that 41 per cent of all voters want Mrs May to resign immediately

By Glen Owen and Brendan Carlin for The Mail on Sunday
Published: 17:00 EDT, 10 June 2017 | Updated: 08:37 EDT, 11 June 2017

Boris Johnson is preparing a new bid to become Prime Minister as Theresa May’s grip on No 10 becomes increasingly fragile.

A close ally of the Foreign Secretary said last night it was ‘go-go-go’ for Mr Johnson’s leadership push, adding: ‘We need Bojo. We need a Brexiteer. We need somebody who can talk and connect with people like Jeremy Corbyn does. We need someone who can make Britain believe in itself again.’

Mr Johnson’s supporters are being careful to say that he will not take any action while Mrs May remains in No 10 – but the fact that his allies are actively briefing about his virtues will be seen in Downing Street as destabilising.

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Oh and Nigel Farage is going back  for UKIP :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-ukip-leader-return-considering-paul-nuttall-resignation-thinking-about-a7783951.html
Nigel Farage says he is 'thinking about' returning as Ukip leader after Paul Nuttall's resignation
Mr Nuttall said he was standing down as leader within hours of Ukip's disastrous election performance

    Katie Forster     @katieforster     17 hours ago

Nigel Farage has said he is considering returning as Ukip leader after Paul Nuttall's resignation.

When asked whether he was contemplating taking on the position, the Brexiteer, who led the party until just after the EU referendum, told the BBC: "I'm thinking about it."

"It's not top of my bucket list. For me, getting the referendum, forcing the referendum and helping to win it, I thought I was done with it," he said.
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #402 on: July 01, 2017, 04:49:41 pm »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/01/theresa-may-could-storm-brexit-talks-divorce-bill/
Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the “divorce bill”
By Peter Foster,  Europe Editor  and
 Ben Riley-Smith,  Assistant Political Editor 
 1 July 2017 • 9:30pm   

Number 10 has told business leaders that Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over the “divorce bill”, The Telegraph can reveal.

A senior Downing Street figure briefed industry and City bosses to prepare for the Prime Minister walking away from negotiations in September.

The move would be designed for “domestic consumption” to show Mrs May was playing tough over the €100 billion (£87.7 billion) some EU figures want the UK to pay before leaving.

The briefing took place at a point after the general election was held last month and the figure has since left in the recent overhaul of Downing Street.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/03/what-do-we-know-about-britains-brexit-divorce-bill
What do we know about Britain's Brexit divorce bill?
 
How much does Britain owe the EU, why does the figure keep changing and can the UK get away with paying nothing at all?
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Theresa May incensed EU negotiators, including Jean-Claude Juncker, by suggesting that the UK might owe nothing at all. Photograph: Andy Rain/EPA

Dan Roberts Brexit policy editor

 
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So how much does Britain owe the EU?

Somewhere between zero and €100bn (£84bn) is probably the only accurate answer at the moment. The former is what some British ministers still argue for, drawing succour from an influential House of Lords report that suggests any liability arising on leaving the EU is not legally enforceable because the UK will have left.
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« Reply #403 on: July 01, 2017, 05:40:19 pm »
I have not had time to write this up and document it properly.

BUT....
The toerag I warned about here [British Election] - Through the Looking Glass - Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee ? crawled out of his rat hole to lead the Rebellion Vote against Brexit.

"The Real Plan B is to have a coup, then install the annointed minion and puppet Chuka Uma."

Yes the minion of Peter Mandelson, Blair/Obama Clone - Chuka Uma. led the Bilderberg sponsored anti-brexit vote.
Of course they lost the vote, this time...

Sorry been to busy to give it a proper write up yet.
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #404 on: July 08, 2017, 06:16:04 am »
Dear me. Chuka Umunna? Talk about a fake, metro Blairite champagne socialist.  That would likely be a huge blessing for the Tories. Which is fine for me while Brexit is still underway. I don't vote for them but they at least have hardliners in the party who can't stand the EU. I just want us to be as far away from EU membership as humanly possible by the time of the next election.

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« Reply #405 on: July 08, 2017, 04:12:25 pm »
What Stan said

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« Reply #406 on: July 08, 2017, 04:45:00 pm »
I am angry, very angry.
The only pure Brexiteer and Truther is Jeremy Corbyn.

We should support anyone who is a Brexiteer.
Some traitors think the Left v Right is more important.
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« Reply #407 on: July 08, 2017, 04:56:00 pm »
Jeremy Corbyn is brexit apart from that being BS  every socialist marxist in the UK  has been triggered by that satement

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« Reply #408 on: July 08, 2017, 05:11:09 pm »
Jeremy Corbyn is brexit apart from that being BS  every socialist marxist in the UK  has been triggered by that satement


Corbyn thinks 9/11 was an inside job, the war on terror is a hoax, and that the EU is a 4th Reich.

But he is a socialist.....

Which is more important ?
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« Reply #409 on: July 08, 2017, 05:22:42 pm »
Corbyn thinks 9/11 was an inside job so what does not make him a brexit supporter

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« Reply #410 on: July 08, 2017, 05:41:05 pm »
Corbyn thinks 9/11 was an inside job so what does not make him a brexit supporter

Which is more important, Left v Right or Country ?
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« Reply #411 on: July 08, 2017, 05:50:21 pm »
now your going out on a limb EG

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« Reply #412 on: July 08, 2017, 05:57:50 pm »
now your going out on a limb EG

Brexit is bigger than petty party politics.

At least that is my take.

Paul Joseph Watson thinks other wise.

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« Reply #413 on: July 08, 2017, 06:05:58 pm »
now your going out on a limb EG

Does he concede that the whole basis of the Maastricht treaty is the establishment of a European central bank which is staffed by bankers, independent of national Governments and national economic policies, and whose sole policy is the maintenance of price stability? That will undermine any social objective that any Labour Government in the United Kingdom—or any other Government—would wish to carry out. Does my hon. Friend recognise that the imposition of a bankers' Europe on the people of this continent will endanger the cause of socialism in the United Kingdom and in any other country?

Jeremy Corbyn.

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« Reply #414 on: July 08, 2017, 06:06:57 pm »
now your going out on a limb EG

My hon. Friend is right in saying that the Bank of England has often operated against the interests of Labour Governments. That is due to the mandarins who run it. If the hon. Gentleman has such doubts about the running of a bank which theoretically is state-owned and state-controlled, what influence does he think will be possible in the case of an independent central bank dedicated to a course of Euro-monetarism?

Jeremy Corbyn
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« Reply #415 on: July 08, 2017, 06:13:04 pm »
i  agree with  Watson on a lot of things even that asshole Robison

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« Reply #416 on: July 08, 2017, 06:36:29 pm »
All  Corbyn  did was tell a lot of middle class universerty  kids no tax for you

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« Reply #417 on: July 08, 2017, 06:36:58 pm »
If my hon. Friend is now envisaging the establishment of a federal Europe, will he not reflect that the Maastricht treaty does not take us in the direction of the checks and balances contained in the American federal constitution? It takes us in the opposite direction of an unelected legislative body—the Commission—and, in the case of foreign policy, a policy Commission that will be, in effect, imposing foreign policy on nation states that have fought for their own democratic accountability.

Q.E.D.


And I will ask for one final time...........

Party (Tory) OR Brexit ?
Choose.



Me I'd vote for Brexit every time.
You must choose.


There can be only one
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« Reply #418 on: July 08, 2017, 06:38:09 pm »
Its  BS  everyday

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« Reply #419 on: July 08, 2017, 06:53:35 pm »
Its  BS  everyday

Simple question . . .

BREIXT or Tory ?
Country or Party ?


Humour me, answer....

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« Reply #420 on: July 08, 2017, 07:01:05 pm »
Simple question . . .

BREIXT or Tory ?
Country or Party ?


Humour me, answer....

There you go Loaded question

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« Reply #421 on: July 08, 2017, 07:09:32 pm »
There you go Loaded question

I do agree.
It is a loaded question.

BUT : Its not my fault, that is the current situation.
Let me be clear, I am not endorsing 1980s militant socialist politics.

The bottom line, for me is BREXIT.

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« Reply #422 on: July 09, 2017, 03:46:45 pm »
For educational discussion

My understanding is that technically its not a loaded question because it does not contain the logical fallacy requirement.
I'm flexible on this because althought the above is true, I think its a good textbook example of a simple loaded question.

Its just not weaponized with a logical fallacy component.

Hence, I described it as "simple".
The key thing is you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

But in my book, "you're damned if you do and damned if you don't" is a practical working everyday definition.

And lastly, I did not create a paradox, the question simply reflects the "Through The Looking Glass" world we live in.

No worries.


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« Reply #423 on: July 21, 2017, 07:42:09 pm »
Corbyn is clearly a Bennite but the Labour Party itself is very pro-EU. Even many of Corbyn's allies. Theresa May, on the other hand, is a remainer but she's still allowed (and even expected) to be full throated on Brexit. It's far from an ideal choice, as you say. I'm not sure yet whether there's a right or wrong answer so I think everyone's just got to use their best judgment and hope it works out.

I'm also not as convinced as others that there'll be another general election before Article 50 expires so we may not have to face this horrible choice if we're lucky.

Another thing that worries me about Labour is not so much their general socialistic policies, but the derangement of their supporters. Even left-wing polling analysts found this to be a problem for them in 2015. The public are very concerned about handing these children state power. It's mentioned often but the Momentum crowd are the reason Farage needed to have bodyguards and are likely the reason you never see him with his kids.

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« Reply #424 on: January 19, 2018, 02:21:32 pm »

 What is going to happen is the UK is going to leave the European Union.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/01/19/theresa-may-hints-would-now-vote-stay-eu-tells-french-proud/
Theresa May hints she would now vote to stay in the EU
By Christopher Hope,  Chief Political Correspondent 
 19 January 2018 • 4:09pm

New doubts have emerged about Theresa May’s commitment to Brexit after she suggested she would vote Remain if an EU referendum were held today and boasts of being a “European”.

The Prime Minister was challenged in an interview with French television on how she would vote if a European Union referendum were held today.

Asked “how you would vote on Brexit", she initially said “I didn’t say how I would vote”.

But then said: “If a vote was to come up, I would do what I did last time round which was sit down and look carefully at the issues.

“But there isn’t going to be another vote, so this is not an issue. What is going to happen is the UK is going to leave the European Union.”
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« Reply #425 on: April 06, 2018, 12:46:14 pm »
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/938502/brexit-news-boris-johnson-one-year-countdown-uk-eu-exit
One Year to Brexit: 65% say NO to second referendum as Boris hails countdown to FREEDOM
BORIS Johnson has declared that Brexit has become "an unstoppable express" as an opinion poll shows that nearly two thirds of voters now want the EU referendum result to be honoured in full.
By Macer Hall
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Thu, Mar 29, 2018 | UPDATED: 10:24, Thu, Mar 29, 2018

Writing for the Daily Express, the Foreign Secretary hails the “glorious” future ahead when the country quits the EU one year from today.

“Our national journey out of the EU is almost over - and a glorious view awaits,” Boris Johnson says.

His upbeat assessment of the came as an exclusive ComRes survey for the Daily Express tonight showed 68% of Britons think that those who voted against quitting the EU "should respect the majority" for leave.

Even four in ten people (38%) who voted Remain in the 2016 referendum now agree that the Leave vote should be respected, according to the poll commissioned to mark one year to go until the UK formally leaves the EU.

And total of 65% of voters in the survey did not want a second referendum on Britain's membership of the bloc, the online survey of more than 2,000 adults found.

In his exclusive article for the Express, Mr Johnson says: “It’s exactly a year from today that Britain will be out of the European Union and re-engaging with the rest of the world.”


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He adds: “Like an unstoppable express, we are heading for Brexit and frankly my friends, we can’t arrive soon enough.”

The massive 68% support for the Government getting on with delivering Brexit in the Daily Express/ComRes poll compares with 52% who voted for Leave and 48% for Remain in the in-or-out EU referendum in 2016.

Britons are now overwhelmingly optimistic about the country's prospects for "taking back control" of domestic policy making after the country quitting the EU, the ComRes survey said
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« Reply #426 on: April 06, 2018, 01:53:39 pm »
I think the Great Britain do not get out from EU in 2018.
Why?
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« Reply #427 on: July 23, 2018, 12:07:30 pm »
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/23/poll-brits-overwhelmingly-reject-tory-soft-brexit/
POLL: Brits Overwhelmingly Reject Tory ?Soft Brexit?
23 Jul 2018

The British public is overwhelmingly opposed to the Prime Minister?s plan for a ?soft? Brexit and almost a third of voters are prepared to back a new, right-wing party committed to a clean Brexit, a poll shows.

Theresa May?s Chequers Brexit plan will keep the United Kingdom tied to all the bloc?s goods rules, severely limiting the nation?s ability to control trade policy, and reports suggest she could also retreat on migration, allowing ?Free Movement by another name?.

The survey, conducted by YouGov for The Sunday Times newspaper, shows only a tenth would pick the plan if there were a second referendum and nearly half think it would be bad for the nation.
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« Reply #428 on: July 29, 2018, 03:21:26 pm »
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/army-on-standby-for-no-deal-brexit-emergency-dz3359lrf
Army on standby for no-deal Brexit emergency
Tim Shipman, Political Editor
July 29 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times

Ministers have drawn up plans to send in the army to deliver food, medicines and fuel in the event of shortages if Britain crashes out of the EU without a deal.

Blueprints for the armed forces to assist the civilian authorities, usually used only in civil emergencies, have been dusted down as part of the ?no deal? planning.

Helicopters and army trucks would be used to ferry supplies to vulnerable people outside the southeast who were struggling to obtain the medicines they needed.
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« Reply #429 on: July 29, 2018, 07:03:34 pm »
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/army-on-standby-for-no-deal-brexit-emergency-dz3359lrf
Army on standby for no-deal Brexit emergency
Tim Shipman, Political Editor
July 29 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times

Ministers have drawn up plans to send in the army to deliver food, medicines and fuel in the event of shortages if Britain crashes out of the EU without a deal.

Blueprints for the armed forces to assist the civilian authorities, usually used only in civil emergencies, have been dusted down as part of the ?no deal? planning.

Helicopters and army trucks would be used to ferry supplies to vulnerable people outside the southeast who were struggling to obtain the medicines they needed.
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« Reply #430 on: August 11, 2018, 05:46:12 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULfqhCNHQPA
John Cleese on Brexit, newspapers and why he's leaving the UK - BBC Newsnight
Published on Jul 10, 2018

Watch the full interview between John Cleese and Emily Maitlis where the Monty Python star explains why newspapers have driven him to the Caribbean.

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« Reply #431 on: August 21, 2018, 09:10:08 am »
Leave Means Leave

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/18/nigel-farage-hits-out-at-mps-as-he-joins-forces-with-hard-brexit-group
Nigel Farage hits out at MPs as he joins forces with hard Brexit group

Controversial MEP links up with Leave Means Leave to fight Theresa May?s Brexit plan

Former Ukip leader Nigel Farage is to lend his support to a hard-Brexit campaign group, he has said.

Farage accused MPs and the Lords of refusing to enact the result of the 2016 EU referendum and said he would join forces with the property tycoon Richard Tice to argue against Theresa May?s proposed Brexit deal.

Farage has backed the Leave Means Leave campaign Tice runs with John Longworth, the former head of the British Chambers of Commerce.

?I have spent some time in the last week with Messrs Tice and Longworth. They have told me they intend to hold a series of public events throughout Britain to promote their message and help represent the views of Brexiteers,? Farage wrote in the Daily Telegraph on Saturday.

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Farage claimed that, since electors were asked to vote in the EU referendum 2016, ?there has been virtually no input from the people at all apart from at the 2017 general election?.

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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #432 on: September 09, 2018, 01:22:23 pm »
I'm still digging on Boris !

https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/09/boris-johnson-says-theresa-may-is-wrapping-a-suicide-vest-around-britain-over-brexit-7927543/
Boris Johnson says Theresa May is 'wrapping a suicide vest around Britain' with Brexit plan
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Sunday 9 Sep 2018 9:36 am

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Writing in the Mail on Sunday, Mr Johnson lashed out at the Northern Ireland ?backstop,? aimed at making sure there is no hard border with Ireland.

He said: 'We have opened ourselves to perpetual political blackmail. We have wrapped a suicide vest around the British constitution ' and handed the detonator to Michel Barnier.

'We have given him a jemmy with which Brussels can choose ' at any time ' to crack apart the union between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.'

Under the EU's version of the exit plan, if no trade deal with the UK resolved the issue of the border problem, Northern Ireland would effectively remain part of the single market.

Mr Johnson added: 'At every stage in the talks so far, Brussels gets what Brussels wants.'
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #433 on: October 21, 2018, 02:38:41 pm »
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-21/martin-armstrong-blasts-brainwashed-masses-calling-2nd-brexit-referendum

Martin Armstrong Blasts "Brainwashed Masses" Calling For 2nd Brexit Referendum
Of course, these people are just brainwashed
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by Tyler Durden
Sun, 10/21/2018 - 14:35

As many as 670,000 people protested in London to call for a second Brexit referendum.
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They are completely ignorant of the fact that remaining in the EU will be the death of Britain. They listen to the likes of Tony Blair and other politicians who get huge pensions from the EU. These protesters are really too stupid to understand what they are protesting for and they are just pawns in a game for corrupt politicians.

The economic growth of Britain has steadily declined ever since joining the EU.
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #434 on: October 22, 2018, 06:03:05 am »
^^^^

... sounds about right for muslim-run Londonistan.
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #435 on: November 16, 2018, 12:40:58 pm »
May tries deal to become a non-voting member of the EU and pay 40 billion pounds subsidy and calls it a deal 

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Brexit news: Brexiteers told to DITCH plans to oust May ? Austrian PM Kurz | UK | News
Published On: Fri, Nov 16th, 2018

Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz joined EU leaders in sending warning shots to revolting Brexiteers that they will get no better Brexit deal than the one already agreed between the Prime Minister and European Commission. The firebrand leader, who currently holds the EU?s rotating presidency, told reporters the current draft proposals prevent a no-deal Brexit ? which will hurt the UK more than it would the EU. He said: ?I very much hope that in Great Britain there will be support for the deal that was agreed on between Great Britain and the chief negotiator Michel Barnier.

?It is a good deal for both sides, nobody has been cheated.

?This deal prevents a hard Brexit. Therefore it helps us in Europe, but even more so it helps GB because a hard Brexit would hit GB significantly more severely.
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Top 40 Horrors - small print of Theresa May?s Brexit "deal"
« Reply #436 on: November 17, 2018, 10:36:15 am »

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The top 40 horrors lurking in the small print of Theresa May?s Brexit deal
By Steerpike
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/the-top-40-horrors-lurking-in-the-small-print-of-theresa-mays-brexit-deal/

This week, Theresa May?s government teetered on the point of collapse over her proposed Brexit deal. The withdrawal agreement between the UK and Brussels led to Dominic Raab and Esther McVey resigning in protest. However, May?s remaining ministers have since attempted to rally around her at least in the short term. Speaking on Friday, Liam Fox ? the International Trade Secretary ? gave a speech in which he declared ?a deal is better than no deal?. This is rather different to May?s old claim that ?no deal is better than a bad deal?.

So, is Fox right? Mr S thought it best to let readers decide for themselves. In theory, Britain is leaving the EU on 29 March 2019. But the legal small print, published by Brussels, shows what this means. Parliament will be asked to ratify a deal which clearly admits that ?all references to ?Member States? and competent authorities of Member States?shall be read as including the United Kingdom.? (Article 7). So the UK will be bound by EU laws, at least during a transition period. But this ?transition period? can be be made to last forever (Article 132).  And even if a successor deal is agreed, the UK will have signed away other rights for years to come.

Just in case readers don?t have the time to go through the lengthly document themselves, Steerpike has compiled a list of the top 40 horrors lurking in the small print of Theresa May?s Brexit deal:

In summary: The supposed ?transition period? could last indefinitely or, more specifically, to an undefined date sometime this century (?up to 31 December 20XX?, Art. 132). So while this Agreement covers what the government is calling Brexit, what we in fact get is: ?transition? + extension indefinitely (by however many years we are willing to pay for) + all of those extra years from the ?plus 8 years? articles.

Should it end within two years, as May hopes, the UK will still be signed up to clauses keeping us under certain rules (like VAT and ECJ supervision) for a further eight years. Some clauses have, quite literally, a ?lifetime? duration (Art.39). If the UK defaults on transition, we go in to the backstop with the Customs Union and, realistically, the single market. We can only leave the transition positively with a deal. But we sign away the money. So the EU has no need to give us a deal, and certainly no incentive to make the one they offered ?better? than the backstop. The European Court of Justice remains sovereign, as repeatedly stipulated. Perhaps most damagingly of all, we agree to sign away the rights we would have, under international law, to unilaterally walk away. Again, what follows relates (in most part) for the ?transition? period. But the language is consistent with the E.U. imagining that this will be the final deal.

The top 40 horrors:

1 From the offset, we should note that this is an EU text, not a UK or international text. This has one source. The Brexit agreement is written in Brussels.

2 May says her deal means the UK leaves the EU next March. The Withdrawal Agreement makes a mockery of this. ?All references to Member States and competent authorities of Member States?shall be read as including the United Kingdom.? (Art 6). Not quite what most people understand by Brexit. It goes on to spell out that the UK will be in the EU but without any MEPs, a commissioner or ECJ judges. We are effectively a Member State, but we are excused ? or, more accurately, excluded ? from attending summits. (Article 7)

3 The European Court of Justice is decreed to be our highest court, governing the entire Agreement ? Art. 4. stipulates that both citizens and resident companies can use it. Art 4.2 orders our courts to recognise this. ?If the European Commission considers that the United Kingdom has failed to fulfil an obligation under the Treaties or under Part Four of this Agreement before the end of the transition period, the European Commission may, within 4 years after the end of the transition period, bring the matter before the Court of Justice of the European Union?. (Art. 87)

4 The jurisdiction of the ECJ will last until eight years after the end of the transition period. (Article 158).

5 The UK will still be bound by any future changes to EU law in which it will have no say, not to mention having to comply with current law. (Article 6(2))

6 Any disputes under the Agreement will be decided by EU law only ? one of the most dangerous provisions. (Article 168). This cuts the UK off from International Law, something we?d never do with any foreign body. Arbitration will be governed by the existing procedural rules of the EU law ? this is not arbitration as we would commonly understand it (i.e. between two independent parties). (Article 174)

7 ?UNDERLINING that this Agreement is founded on an overall balance of benefits, rights and obligations for the Union and the United Kingdom? No, it should be based upon the binding legal obligations upon the EU contained within Article 50. It is wrong to suggest otherwise.

8 The tampon tax clause: We obey EU laws on VAT, with no chance of losing the tampon tax even if we agree a better deal in December 2020 because we hereby agree to obey other EU VAT rules for **five years** after the transition period. Current EU rules prohibit 0-rated VAT on products (like tampons) that did not have such exemptions before the country joined the EU.

9 Several problems with the EU?s definitions: ?Union law? is too widely defined and ?United Kingdom national? is defined by the Lisbon Treaty: we should given away our right to define our citizens. The ?goods? and the term ?services? we are promised the deal are not defined ? or, rather, will be defined however the EU wishes them to be. Thus far, this a non-defined term so far. This agreement fails to define it.

10 The Mandelson Pension Clause: The UK must promise never to tax former EU officials based here - such as Peter Mandelson or Neil Kinnock - on their E.U. pensions, or tax any current Brussels bureaucrats on their salaries. The EU and its employees are to be immune to our tax laws. (Article 104)

11 Furthermore, the UK agrees not to prosecute EU employees who are, or who might be deemed in future, criminals (Art.101)

12 The GDPR clause. The General Data Protection Regulation ? the EU?s stupidest law ever? ? is to be bound into UK law (Articles 71 to 73). There had been an expectation in some quarters that the UK could get out of it.

13 The UK establishes a ?Joint Committee? with EU representatives to guarantee ?the implementation and application of this Agreement?. This does not sound like a withdrawal agreement ? if it was, why would it need to be subject to continued monitoring? (Article 164). This Joint Committee will have subcommittees with jurisdiction over: (a) citizens? rights; (b) ?other separation provisions?; (c) Ireland/Northern Ireland; (d) Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus; (e) Gibraltar; and (f) financial provisions. (Article 165)

14 The Lifetime clause: the agreement will last as long as the country?s youngest baby lives. ?the persons covered by this Part shall enjoy the rights provided for in the relevant Titles of this Part for their lifetime?. (Article 39).

15 The UK is shut out of all EU networks and databases for security ? yet no such provision exists to shut the EU out of ours. (Article 8)

16 The UK will tied to EU foreign policy, ?bound by the obligations stemming from the international agreements concluded by the Union? but unable to influence such decisions. (Article 124)

17 All EU citizens must be given permanent right of residence after five years ? but what counts as residence? This will be decided by the EU, rather than UK rules. (Articles 15-16)

18 Britain is granted the power to send a civil servant to Brussels to watch them pass stupid laws which will hurt our economy. (Article 34)

19 The UK agrees to spend taxpayers? money telling everyone how wonderful the agreement is. (Article 37)

20 Art 40 defines Goods. It seems to includes Services and Agriculture. We may come to discover that actually ?goods? means everything.

21 Articles 40-49 practically mandate the UK?s ongoing membership of the Customs Union in all but name.

22 The UK will be charged to receive the data/information we need in order to comply with EU law. (Article 50)

23 The EU will continue to set rules for UK intellectual property law (Article 54 to 61)

24 The UK will effectively be bound by a non-disclosure agreement swearing us to secrecy regarding any EU developments we have paid to be part. This is not mutual. The EU is not bound by such measures. (Article 74)

25 The UK is bound by EU rules on procurement rules ? which effectively forbids us from seeking better deals elsewhere. (Articles 75 to 78)

26 We give up all rights to any data the EU made with our money (Art. 103)

27 The EU decide capital projects (too broadly defined) the UK is liable for. (Art. 144)

28 The UK is bound by EU state aid laws until future agreement ? even in the event of an agreement, this must wait four years to be valid. (Article 93)

29 Similar advantages and immunities are extended to all former MEPs and to former EU official more generally. (Articles 106-116)

30 The UK is forbidden from revealing anything the EU told us or tells us about the finer points of deal and its operation. (Article 105).

31 Any powers the UK parliament might have had to mitigate EU law are officially removed. (Article 128)

32 The UK shall be liable for any ?outstanding commitments? after 2022 (Article 142(2) expressly mentions pensions, which gives us an idea as to who probably negotiated this). The amount owed will be calculated by the EU. (Articles 140-142)

33 The UK will be liable for future EU lending. As anyone familiar with the EU?s financials knows, this is not good. (Article143)

34 The UK will remain liable for capital projects approved by the European Investment Bank. (Article 150).

35 The UK will remain a ?party? (i.e. cough up money) for the European Development Fund. (Articles 152-154)

36 And the EU continues to calculate how much money the UK should pay it. So thank goodness Brussels does not have any accountancy issues.

37 The UK will remain bound (i.e coughing up money) to the European Union Emergency Trust Fund ? which deals with irregular migration (i.e. refugees) and displaced persons heading to Europe. (Article 155)

38 The agreement will be policed by ?the Authority? ? a new UK-based body with ?powers equivalent to those of the European Commission?. (Article 159)

39 The EU admits, in Art. 184, that it is in breach of  Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty which oblige it to ?conclude an agreement? of the terms of UK leaving the EU. We must now, it seems, ?negotiate expeditiously the agreements governing their future relationship.? And if the EU does not? We settle down to this Agreement.

40 And, of course, the UK will agree to pay ?40bn to receive all of these ?privileges?. (Article 138)



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Re: Top 40 Horrors - small print of Theresa May?s Brexit "deal"
« Reply #437 on: November 17, 2018, 12:21:36 pm »
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/the-top-40-horrors-lurking-in-the-small-print-of-theresa-mays-brexit-deal/
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11 Furthermore, the UK agrees not to prosecute EU employees who are, or who might be deemed in future, criminals (Art.101)
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #438 on: November 18, 2018, 07:59:23 pm »
10 The Mandelson Pension Clause: The UK must promise never to tax former EU officials based here - such as Peter Mandelson or Neil Kinnock - on their E.U. pensions, or tax any current Brussels bureaucrats on their salaries. The EU and its employees are to be immune to our tax laws. (Article 104)
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Re: BrExit - Br Exit - Britain vote to exit EU - June 23 2016
« Reply #439 on: November 18, 2018, 08:01:17 pm »

30 The UK is forbidden from revealing anything the EU told us or tells us about the finer points of deal and its operation. (Article 105).
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