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No sir, it's you that is not getting it. It has nothing to do with conspiracy or you being fooled into believing that everything is a conspiracy - it has nothing to do with "restricting resources" because we are using more and more all the time. They are not "restricting them" they make money from them .. what the heck are you thinking?

They don't want people to NOT SPEND money... that's ridiculous. The resources "they" control they sell just like any business - IT"S MONEY for them. "They" can't supply the resources fast enough for everyone that is "Their" problem. Why do you think they want to kill you off? "They" understand the math .. "they" get it.
 

Trees can't be replaced as fast as were using them - it's less the common sense that tells you there is no way to speed grow trees and water. The more people that are consuming the more waste and pollution there will be. That's just one tiny aspect of consumption. Bluefin Tuna almost extinct - Why do you think they want to create hybrid salmon? It's being fished out (of course money too). Don't believe me? Check it out yourself.


You'll never hear me question "they" want to depopulate. It's a fact and it's obvious for all to see. But not every crisis is intentionally "manufactured" and not every problem the world has is a conspiracy. And not everyone telling you there are very big problems aside from the NWO in this world is your enemy.


Here's a typical consumption problem --

The average American household consumes about 127,400 gallons of water during a year. Homeowners in Washington, DC, pay about $350 for that amount of water. Buying that same amount of water from a vendor in Guatemala City would cost more than $1,700. This my friend has nothing to do with NWO it's a byproduct of Embodied energy.

The truth is Mr. Anderson - the entire global system is failing and dying. And replacing politicians by voting new ones in doesn't , will not and never has changed this failing system. Things have only gotten worse even with all these "great" leaders and their best, intentions , thoughts and scientists -- they have brought us to exactly where we are today. Voting a few non incumbents in to office is nothing more then switching seats on the Titanic.

That's the real lie Mr. Anderson.

Charrington, I really do believe that your strong convictions are coming from you intellect and spirit. Yet, I will research this info, carefully.

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yes think for ourselves. We can have different opinions, be strong willed yet open minded. and most importantly not be conned. I am delighted with what WhiteWitch has brought to the thread. Very much needed. THough Ii disagree with her on several points regarding soil depletion, i do agree with her on others. This is the essence of a real dialogue regarding WORLD policy that needs to be discussed as Catherine Austin Fitts has referenced.
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UN Blueprint: Dismantle Middle Class, Build World Government

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
September 9, 2010

A UN blueprint for putting the organization back at the forefront of global governance alarmingly reveals the agenda to re-brand global warming as “overpopulation” as a means of dismantling the middle classes while using “global redistribution of wealth” and increased immigration to reinvigorate the pursuit of a one world government.

United Nations Secretary General Ban ki-Moon and 60 of his top lieutenants met this past Labor Day at a secluded Austrian Alpine retreat in a bid to get the global warming agenda back on track after the dismal failure of Copenhagen.

The planning paper that was handed out to delegates at the conference was subsequently leaked to Fox News, and outlines a strategy of exalting “global redistribution of wealth” as the basis of the climate change agenda.

As was uncovered during the Copenhagen summit, the program of “global redistribution of wealth” largely centers around looting the wealth of the middle classes in richer countries through carbon taxes and then using that money to bankroll the construction of world government. As the leaked “Danish text” revealed, the money generated from consumption taxes will go directly to the World Bank, not to developing countries.

Under the terms of this proposal, poorer countries will not simply be handed the money pillaged from richer nations, instead they will be forced to accept “green loans”  in the name of combating climate change, a policy that would land the already financially devastated third world with even more debt, payable to globalist institutions such as the IMF.

The new position paper couches the UN’s agenda behind convoluted semantics and happy-clappy globalist rhetoric, but the mission to use the fraudulent science of climate change, which the UN’s own IPCC has been caught manipulating time and time again, to completely eviscerate the middle class, is laid bare.

The aim is to “limit and redirect the aspirations for a better life of rising middle classes around the world,” in other words to reduce the standard of living for the middle classes in Western Europe and America.

As the opening session paper puts it: “The real challenge comes from the exponential growth of the global consumerist society driven by ever higher aspirations of the upper and middle layers in rich countries as well as the expanding demand of emerging middle-class in developing countries. Our true ambition should be therefore creating incentives for the profound transformation of attitudes and consumption styles.”

This is globalist talk for dismantling the middle classes by looting them with carbon taxes and consumption levies in the name of alleviating poverty in poorer areas of the world and stopping climate change. However, as we have already explained, this is merely a ruse. The money will not be “redistributed” to the poor, it will be swallowed up by the same globalist institutions running the scam.

The leaked document also discusses how the UN can exploit mass immigration to push for more global governance regulatory control, in focusing on, “How to capitalize on the global tide of migrants from poor nations to rich ones, to encompass a new “international migration governance framework.”

The paper makes it clear that the UN is about to adopt a new public relations ploy in pushing the phony and discredited global warming mantra, by re-branding it as the threat of overpopulation. The world’s population is set to hit 9 billion by 2050, and the strategy outlines the need to make that figure the key emphasis in an effort to browbeat people into accepting that an overcrowded planet causes environmental devastation.

“The U.N. leaders intend to keep trying to change that, especially when it comes to the climate agenda. “The next 40 years will prove pivotal,” one paper argues, while laying out the basis of a renewed U.N. climate campaign, the “50-50-50 Challenge,” states the Fox News report, adding that the goal for the UN is to reduce CO2 emissions by 50 per cent before 2050.



However, the UN’s own figures clearly indicate that population is set to stabilize in 2020 and then drop dramatically after 2050 and indeed that underpopulation is going to be the real long term issue. As the Economist reported, “Fertility is falling and families are shrinking in places— such as Brazil, Indonesia, and even parts of India—that people think of as teeming with children. As our briefing shows, the fertility rate of half the world is now 2.1 or less—the magic number that is consistent with a stable population and is usually called “the replacement rate of fertility”. Sometime between 2020 and 2050 the world’s fertility rate will fall below the global replacement rate.”

To achieve their goal, the UN will have to oversee “nothing less than a fundamental transformation of the global economy,” states the report. In other words, economic growth will wither and be replaced by a “green economy” and a “post-industrial revolution.” Spain’s fundamental transformation of its economy over to a “green economy” has devastated the country, with unemployment hitting a crippling 20 per cent.

The blueprint makes it clear that the UN intends to reassert its role as the instigator and leader of a one world government, and will set about to achieve this by bypassing nation states and thwarting national sovereignty.

“The U.N. should be able to take the lead in setting the global agenda, engage effectively with other multinational and regional organizations as well as civil society and non-state stakeholders, and transform itself into a tool to help implement the globally agreed objectives,” states the paper.

“Is the global governance structure, still dominated by national sovereignty, capable of responding with the coherence and speed needed?” it asks. “Or do we need to push the ‘reset’ button and rethink global governance to meet the 50-50-50 Challenge?”

The planning document also makes it clear that the UN intends to drastically expand its role as the world’s policeman, by “building a “standing justice and corrections element” to go with the semi-permanent police force — a permanent strike force to establish courts and prisons in nations where peacekeepers are stationed.”

The paper also outlines an intention to push new economic regulatory powers to enable the organization to introduce global financial regulation.

I think before we start accusing the NWO of massive genocide for sinister purposes, we have to look into their reason or motive why THEY want to reduce the planet of humans.

If the NWO motive for population reduction was based on sole greed, andTHEY take all the real estate of the planet by and for themselves, which includes the microchip agenda, then we can take evidence that NWO wants the entire PLANET by and for themselves.

However, If the truth that be is to be told, that there is scarcity of resources that will come down the pike in 100 years, and NWO is hastily implementing harsh Financial population reduction measures, plagues, etcetera, Would the members here on Prisonplanet Understand the Dilemma of the ruling elite?

I also think that everybody here needs to do MORE research into statistical analysis, reading NGO websites, logistics and the infrastructure needed to carry 10 billion people in the 21st century.

Food IS not the ONLY issue that pertains to Population growth.
there are very complex and detailed factors that must be taken into account. I think only
Charrington, Bluescreen, and WhiteWitch has brought a fraction of these variables like soil health, air pollution, water degradation. Whilst Geo, Dig, Route, being very intelligent and all carry this Deep Distrust of the Queens in Europe, the Bankers in America and Europe.
And, I do not blame these savy folk, but As the saying goes.   Sometimes you gotta put aside your differences with the enemy and fight for a common cause.

That is, if the truth really is that harsh and severe increases in population will be a detriment to all living Homo-Sapians. However, if the inverse conclusion about Population measures, that resource management data is being manipulated for the ELite's greed , is true, then I think Dig would have a good point to why humans need fight against the NWO population measures.

factors to think about:

Living Space :  human congestion, wilderness area protection, Forest depletion,
Economic spending power: inflation, competion for raw materials, availability of Jobs
Pollution: infrastructure consequences of Refineries, power plants, consumer good plants,
water poisoning, Air Poisoning (Chemtrails of we all know), Food poisoning,
Cancer rates: increased radio frequencies like cell phone towers, power plants nuclear: HaarP(man Made)
Available supply of clean water, Food, paper, plastics, sewage treatment capacity, Road work
investment, Police and government cost of hospitals, firestations, ..

The list goes on and on. THIS is what we need to discuss first, before we get into eugenics.
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However, If the truth that be is to be told, that there is scarcity of resources that will come down the pike in 100 years, and NWO is hastily implementing harsh Financial population reduction measures, plagues, etcetera, Would the members here on Prisonplanet Understand the Dilemma of the ruling elite?

And why are there shortages?   Because the powers that be are gobbling up everything as fast as their greedy little hands can get them.  False shortages always puts money in their pockets.  The law of supply and demand.  False shortages are created by those who own the worlds resources, and what they don't own they create reasons to own it or regulate it.  Create a problem, wait for the reaction, offer the solution.  It is getting so old and so boring.  You would think people would see right through this agenda.
But no, they blame the guy who owns one car, one house, buys groceries for a family of four, two people working to cover the bills and medical, small mom and pop businesses rather than place the blame on huge corporations which contaminate everything they touch.  Sickening.
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And why are there shortages?   Because the powers that be are gobbling up everything as fast as their greedy little hands can get them.  False shortages always puts money in their pockets.  The law of supply and demand.  False shortages are created by those who own the worlds resources, and what they don't own they create reasons to own it or regulate it.  Create a problem, wait for the reaction, offer the solution.  It is getting so old and so boring.  You would think people would see right through this agenda.
But no, they blame the guy who owns one car, one house, buys groceries for a family of four, two people working to cover the bills and medical, small mom and pop businesses rather than place the blame on huge corporations which contaminate everything they touch.  Sickening.

Sorry but I'm confused: do you like and believe in "the law of supply and demand", or not?
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Yes I do, someone needs something, someone else provides it.  You can barter, use cash, etc.   But when you have crooks creating shortages where there is none, which drives the cost up falsely AND then they use the population card as the reason for the shortage (which they know is false) and begin teaching it in the schools as fact and ramming down our throats that we should all feel guilty and cut back because us useless eaters are the problem  then it no longer is supply and demand.....it becomes perverted much like the ones that are pushing this agenda.

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Living Space :  human congestion, wilderness area protection, Forest depletion,
Economic spending power: inflation, competion for raw materials, availability of Jobs
Pollution: infrastructure consequences of Refineries, power plants, consumer good plants,
water poisoning, Air Poisoning (Chemtrails of we all know), Food poisoning,
Cancer rates: increased radio frequencies like cell phone towers, power plants nuclear: HaarP(man Made)
Available supply of clean water, Food, paper, plastics, sewage treatment capacity, Road work
investment, Police and government cost of hospitals, firestations, ..

And how much of the list above has been made into a problem by bureaucrats, government regulations, laws, huge corporations, and plain all around stupidity by TPTB and how much has been made a problem by Mr and Mrs John Doe Public citizen?
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see above.


All we need to do is increase CO2 to generate more plant life.


So what are these 'benevolent' elites doing ?
Claiming CO2 is Evil !

Come on, figure it out, it ain't that difficult.

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All we need to do is increase CO2 to generate more plant life.
So what are these 'benevolent' elites doing ?
Claiming CO2 is Evil !

Come on, figure it out, it ain't that difficult.

CO2 is .04 percent of the atmosphere !
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To re-cap, We have shown that:

CO2 is a trace gas of .039 percent (390 PPM) of the atmosphere.
1% (10,000 ppm) will make some people feel drowsy
Concentrations of CO2 have been higher in the past century and prior to industrialization.
Ice core's have been used as a reference because over time they have leaked co2 and always show lower values then actual.

If CO2 doubled to say 800 PPM, The deserts would green and starvation would be a thing of the past.

http://joannenova.com.au/2010/04/co2-is-the-magic-gas-that-makes-plant-grow/
Co2 is the magic gas that makes plants grow
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The ingredient plants need most is carbon from CO2. They typically [Plants] exchange over 2,000 water molecules to grab one CO2 molecule. Plants are desperate for carbon from the air, just like we humans are desperate for oxygen from the air. “No CO2″, implies no plant growth. One of the main roles of water in plant life is just so the plant can exchange it for carbon


Green the deserts?

When there is more CO2 in the air, the plants don’t need as much water. They become more drought resistant. From the CO2Science Biospheric Summary:

One of the important ramifications of this CO2-induced increase in plant water use efficiency is the fact that it enables plants to grow and reproduce in areas that were previously too dry for them.  

With consequent increases in ground cover in these regions, the adverse effects of wind- and water-induced soil erosion are also reduced.  Hence, there is a tendency for desertification to be reversed and for vast tracts of previously unproductive land to become supportive of more abundant animal life, both above- and below-ground, in what could appropriately be called a “greening of the earth.”

The mass of plant matter in the world today is about 6% higher than it was 20 years ago, according to satellites. The deforestation in South America and South Asia is about matched by reforestation in North America, Russia and Europe, and extra CO2 is making for more biomass per square meter

Due to today’s higher CO2 levels, plants on average grow 15% faster than they did 200 years ago (and some major cereals grow 40% faster). Higher CO2 levels are a major part of the green revolution, averting starvation for hundreds of millions of thinking, breathing, human beings.

If the Greens wanted to green the world, the single fastest way to do it, is to raise carbon dioxide levels. O’ the irony.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=29860.msg1103009#msg1103009

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However, the UN’s own figures clearly indicate that population is set to stabilize in 2020 and then drop dramatically after 2050 and indeed that underpopulation is going to be the real long term issue.

As the Economist reported, “Fertility is falling and families are shrinking in places— such as Brazil, Indonesia, and even parts of India—that people think of as teeming with children. As our briefing shows, the fertility rate of half the world is now 2.1 or less—the magic number that is consistent with a stable population and is usually called “the replacement rate of fertility”. Sometime between 2020 and 2050 the world’s fertility rate will fall below the global replacement rate.”

See: Brainwashed - SDT - The Second Demographic Transition -
One in five childbearing women childless (double from 1 in 10)


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Both the current prevalence of low fertility and its persistence are unprecedented (see Frejka & Ross 2001, Population Reference Bureau 2004, Stark & Kohler 2002).

Note that Wilson (2004) has estimated that more than half of the world's population now lives in countries with sub-replacement fertility. Further,

note that only 3% of the world's population now lives in countries that have not begun fertility decline (Morgan 2003),

and that past research suggests that once a fertility transition has begun, it does not stop until birth rates of 2 or below have been achieved (Bongaarts & Bulatao 2000, Bongaarts & Watkins 1996).


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And why are there shortages?   Because the powers that be are gobbling up everything as fast as their greedy little hands can get them.  False shortages always puts money in their pockets.  The law of supply and demand.  False shortages are created by those who own the worlds resources, and what they don't own they create reasons to own it or regulate it.  Create a problem, wait for the reaction, offer the solution.  It is getting so old and so boring.  You would think people would see right through this agenda.
But no, they blame the guy who owns one car, one house, buys groceries for a family of four, two people working to cover the bills and medical, small mom and pop businesses rather than place the blame on huge corporations which contaminate everything they touch.  Sickening.

On some fronts like Diamonds and Probably metals and Food, the European aristocracy is creating a false paradigm by manipulating, money, the supply of food, introducing GMO to the soil. And they are hoarding loads of Gold and other precious metals the public will never have access to.

But, I specifically asked for raw Data points that may or may not lean towards in favour of your opinion.
I think, that being independent and not Being LAZY will be key to solve this issue.

Let's take for example my state of NJ. 9 million people live in that state of 8722 square miles. That means that there is 9,000,000/8722
or about 1031 persons per square mile.

Okay how much resources does one average 150 pound person consume in a day?
How much electricity does One person consume in a day/month/year.
How much sewage does one person emit/day/month year/
HOw many consumer products like phones, TV, newspapers, does one person consume in  a month?

These questions, must be ANSWERED first. because my state of NJ already has 1031 persons/square mile. It does feel too congested, EVERYWHERE. ANd I think it would be a travesty to let Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, MOntana get to the point of saturation of NEw Jersey.

If Wyoming the least populated state in the Union equaled the population density of NJ how many people would live in wyoming?

okay.  97818 square miles * 1031 persons per square mile = 100,850,358 persons.    
How much food, how many powerplants, roads, apartments,  in Wyoming would it take to support 100 million people in that state?
Where are we going to get the food from? Do you want to live in a state that has 100 million people? These are logistical questions that need to be answered before anyone can espouse a confident opinion on such matters as demographics.

if we take the land of the COntinental United States and average the density of NJ to the entire continental Nation, how many people would there be? 3911699537. 4 billion people. What are we going to do about the Sewage, the Pollution, the food (from Africa?) if the United States had 4 billion people.

How much food does an acre of crops yield. Are there ways to increase yield. How much land would be neccessary to feed 330 million people. How much land would we take from nature from creating baseball fields, Sewage facilities, Garbage landfills, Neighborhoods which would compete against nature's woods and desserts. How much water does it take to feed 1031 in one square mile. do you get my point?
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Bottom line. We could fill the entire planet to Texas if we abandoned parts of our lifestyle. The angry, competitive ones. Unless we do that, there will be a real problem and a solution will be sought after. The further it goes, the stronger the demand for solution, the stronger that demand goes, the higher will be the chance that the solution chosen will be an extreme one, e.g. mass murder.

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All we need to do is increase CO2 to generate more plant life.


So what are these 'benevolent' elites doing ?
Claiming CO2 is Evil !

Come on, figure it out, it ain't that difficult.


And this is exactly how TPTB do everything.  Remember when they said to get rid of disease we need to have better nutrition, better hygene, exercise, plenty of sleep and fresh air?  So what do they do?  Grow our foods in toxic pesticides, process our foods which removes all the vitamins and minerals, then they add preservatives and dyes not to mention excitotoxins and empty calories (now people are overweight, sickly and diabetic etc) and messing with the DNA of our foods by GMO, add fluoride to our water (rots teeth and causes depression), release atom bombs into the air (cancer agents) and fill the skies with chemtrails, push vaccines on everyone that are comprised of live virus and neurotoxins and autoimmune disease triggering antibodies (autism, neurological diseases etc), push antibacterial soaps which help to destroy our natural immune systems(mrsa etc), create an excuse to get women out of the homes and in to the workforce and now everyone is over worked and stressed (push antidepressants) to the max, which creates a need for daycare where exercise is regulated and controlled, cut back gym, sports and recess in schools and regulate it to death (kids might get hurt) in order to make room to teach sex education, tolerance, and and bring to light bullying (now kids accost each other through facebook and email).

THANKS FOR FIXING IT Monsanto and all you other Aholes out there who have the means and the power to do it !   >:(
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aldou huxley has outright stated in his berkely lectures that a scientific dictatorship will be a ominous threat in the near future. He said in the speech that the link between a scientific dictatorship and human demographics was the most likely cause of the such rise in dictatorships. Huxley used India as an example where poverty was and is prevelant. their population in India was still growing at 2.3% per annum which doubles the population i think around 32 years. 4% growth  per annum doubles the population in about 16 years.

thus the more humans encroach upon Gaia, the more likely that Elite Managers of earth WILL do something about that problem as Obama has mentioned in that NSF(national Science foundations) speech.



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aldou huxley has outright stated in his berkely lectures that a scientific dictatorship will be a ominous threat in the near future. He said in the speech that the link between a scientific dictatorship and human demographics was the most likely cause of the such rise in dictatorships. Huxley used India as an example where poverty was and is prevelant. their population in India was still growing at 2.3% per annum which doubles the population i think around 32 years. 4% growth  per annum doubles the population in about 16 years.

thus the more humans encroach upon Gaia, the more likely that Elite Managers of earth WILL do something about that problem as Obama has mentioned in that NSF(national Science foundations) speech.





Well my suggestion to them to help "gaia" is to get the EFF of the planet themselves by self sacrifice for the better of all.
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you are comparing just a few thousand people to 7 billion people.

a few thousand people won't solve their problem. And you really think they will kill themselves?
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you are comparing just a few thousand people to 7 billion people.

a few thousand people won't solve their problem. And you really think they will kill themselves?

One could only hope.
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These people are, no doubt, trying (and succeeding to some extent) to control the entire planet and the bastards need to be stopped. I, myself, think that there are too many people in this world and that we as individuals should decide on our own what needs to be done about it. I'm tired of seeing beautiful and natural landscapes and animals being destroyed and murdered to be replaced with another building or highway or factory. It sickens me that we humans are shitting on our own dinner plate. So yes, I think overpopulation is a huge issue, but I think that anyone trying to control people and make decisions for them is far worse. I have chosen not to add to the population of the planet and that is my choice and my right, just as having children should be a personal choice and right. I will not ever give my freedom away to some jackass control freak who thinks that they can do whatever they please. I'll die fighting first and I am afraid that is exactly what is going to take place. It's time that we start coming together and show these bastards that we are not going to be controlled.

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These people are, no doubt, trying (and succeeding to some extent) to control the entire planet and the bastards need to be stopped. I, myself, think that there are too many people in this world and that we as individuals should decide on our own what needs to be done about it. I'm tired of seeing beautiful and natural landscapes and animals being destroyed and murdered to be replaced with another building or highway or factory. It sickens me that we humans are shitting on our own dinner plate. So yes, I think overpopulation is a huge issue, but I think that anyone trying to control people and make decisions for them is far worse. I have chosen not to add to the population of the planet and that is my choice and my right, just as having children should be a personal choice and right. I will not ever give my freedom away to some jackass control freak who thinks that they can do whatever they please. I'll die fighting first and I am afraid that is exactly what is going to take place. It's time that we start coming together and show these bastards that we are not going to be controlled.

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Re: Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum
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posted by rover08: I think overpopulation is a huge issue,


You don't want to be controlled.  You think those who control are bastards.  Yet you believe them.  They are the ones who started the "rumor" that overpopulation is an issue and a problem.  They short the food by taking the "beautiful land" to make more "walmarts"and genetically modify the food so it no longer resembles food nutritionally.  They get rich off of meds and squelch all cures.  They control the energies and regulate the prices that they "allow" us to use.  They squelch any ideas concerning fuels and energies that would actually be ecologically sound and efficient.  They have money and power as their gods.  They have created a problem, they waited for YOUR reaction (as well as the thousands of others who have bought in to it) and lo and behold they offer a solution.....abortion, (which they also get rich off of) vaccines,per say Bill gates (which they also get rich off of)  and family planning (more abortion) (which they also get rich off of).  Yet you buy in to they're crap being bombarded by false guilt that was engrained into you from the moment you could watch tv, attend school and read.  They would consider your brainwashing a success.  You hate them for their control, but yet you let them control you and you didn't even know it.  They like your (their) way of thinking.
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Re: Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum
« Reply #618 on: August 18, 2011, 07:48:48 pm »

You don't want to be controlled.  You think those who control are bastards.  Yet you believe them.  They are the ones who started the "rumor" that overpopulation is an issue and a problem.  They short the food by taking the "beautiful land" to make more "walmarts"and genetically modify the food so it no longer resembles food nutritionally.  They get rich off of meds and squelch all cures.  They control the energies and regulate the prices that they "allow" us to use.  They squelch any ideas concerning fuels and energies that would actually be ecologically sound and efficient.  They have money and power as their gods.  They have created a problem, they waited for YOUR reaction (as well as the thousands of others who have bought in to it) and lo and behold they offer a solution.....abortion, (which they also get rich off of) vaccines,per say Bill gates (which they also get rich off of)  and family planning (more abortion) (which they also get rich off of).  Yet you buy in to they're crap being bombarded by false guilt that was engrained into you from the moment you could watch tv, attend school and read.  They would consider your brainwashing a success.  You hate them for their control, but yet you let them control you and you didn't even know it.  They like your (their) way of thinking.

Nice summary of the crapola we face!
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These people are, no doubt, trying (and succeeding to some extent) to control the entire planet and the bastards need to be stopped. I, myself, think that there are too many people in this world and that we as individuals should decide on our own what needs to be done about it.
I think you have a point, now is the time  to do something about it..no more time for  talk.... quickly go to the tallest building in your city and why not just  jump off from  the highest floor?

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« Reply #620 on: August 18, 2011, 08:00:43 pm »
People aren't the problem. Government is the problem.
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I think you have a point, now is the time  to do something about it..no more time for  talk.... quickly go to the tallest building in your city and why not just  jump off from  the highest floor?

BRAVO!  ;D
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« Reply #622 on: August 20, 2011, 05:01:17 pm »
To attietewd-They would consider your brainwashing a success.  You hate them for their control, but yet you let them control you and you didn't even know it.  They like your (their) way of thinking.

Can you really tell me that you don't see the effect that overpopulation has on the Earth? Open your eyes!!!!! This planet can only sustain so many people. Do you not see the difference between putting 100 head of cattle on 1/4 acre as opposed to putting the same 100 head of cattle 100 acres and the different impacts this has on the environment? You remind me of some of the people that brought lawsuits against the tobacco companies for not telling them that inhaling smoke was bad for them. Are you going to put your lips around a tailpipe of a car and sue the car company for not putting labels on the tailpipe informing you of how harmful it is? Open your eyes!!!! I don't have to watch television or listen to anyones ideas in order to see that too many people on earth is a bad thing. Where does your waste go?
Nobody is controlling my choice to not have children. Beside the environmental impact, I would not want to bring a child into this crap hole anyway.
Before you and your 10 children make a judgement call on my being contolled, look in the mirror and look out your window.

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Re: Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum
« Reply #623 on: August 20, 2011, 08:04:07 pm »
Remember kids, be environmentally friendly, or fake green aliens will kill us all.
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Re: Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum
« Reply #624 on: August 20, 2011, 08:13:19 pm »
I agree that we have an overpopulation of overlords and control freaks, if that counts.
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« Reply #625 on: August 20, 2011, 08:21:19 pm »
I have long since stopped feeling any responsibility for what is taking place on this world via the rich bastards who are destroying it.  I guarantee one hundred years after I'm gone I will not even have left a notch in this world and neither will you (contrary to your holier than thou bleeding heart self-sacrificing swelled head). The people who are destroying it have the means and the power to do so.  Money and power beyond your wildest dreams.  This planet (to them) is no more than a playground and they are no more than bullies in it.  They are greedy, covetous and power hungry.  Their plan calls for them to look at the population (of the world) as a herd.  It's funny that you compared us to cattle, it would appear you have the herd mentality.  According to these rich bastards we are a commodity, no more no less.  If you choose to not have kids, be my guest, if you choose to take on undeserved guilt, be my guest....but don't peddle that notion here.  This forum is about truth not malthusian BS.  


Every man woman and child could fit into the state of Texas... here ya go!

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The Overpopulation Myth


Upon examining the US, we find out that Texas fits the bill nicely.  In fact, Texas has 261,797.12 square miles of land, and that is (261792.12<ENTER> 1.602<ENTER> 1.602 × ×) 671,877.17 square kilometers!  Which is, in fact, more than the area we need to house all 7 billion of us at typical New York City densities.  Meaning every man, woman, and child living and breathing on the face of the Earth could fit in relative comfort within the land territory of the State of Texas.

http://simplyshrug.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63:the-overpopulation-myth&catid=31:general&Itemid=50
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Re: Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum
« Reply #626 on: August 20, 2011, 08:44:51 pm »
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The Overpopulation Myth


Upon examining the US, we find out that Texas fits the bill nicely.  In fact, Texas has 261,797.12 square miles of land, and that is (261792.12<ENTER> 1.602<ENTER> 1.602 × ×) 671,877.17 square kilometers!  Which is, in fact, more than the area we need to house all 7 billion of us at typical New York City densities.  Meaning every man, woman, and child living and breathing on the face of the Earth could fit in relative comfort within the land territory of the State of Texas.

http://simplyshrug.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63:the-overpopulation-myth&catid=31:general&Itemid=50


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« Reply #627 on: August 20, 2011, 08:47:02 pm »

I bookmarked this. Awesome  " Honey oh honey time for bed sweetheart" :) :) :)

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« Reply #628 on: August 21, 2011, 07:52:44 am »
To attietewd-They would consider your brainwashing a success.  You hate them for their control, but yet you let them control you and you didn't even know it.  They like your (their) way of thinking.

Can you really tell me that you don't see the effect that overpopulation has on the Earth? Open your eyes!!!!! This planet can only sustain so many people. ...


Where are you living? When you look out the window, is it in NYC or Vermont?
"Overpopulation" is a myth created by those who would like to rid the earth of 'useless eaters'.
OPEN YOUR EYES!

(Or is your purpose here to spread bullshit information you take directly from the globalists?)

And how many people are allowed? Who decides which people get culled? Are you in on those discussions?
(FYI: the 'culling' is well underway - you like that? You drink fluoridated water? Eat GM food? You planning to go off to fight in the manufactured wars? The population is being culled as we speak, and even as people like you are waving the 'overpopulation' banner asking for it.)

Read this thread:
   
Food as a Weapon: The Largest Conspiracy of Mass Murder in World History
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=187603.msg1112862#msg1112862

As long as you believe we are "overpopulated", you'll be in support of wars that kill millions, you'll be happy about the vaccines that deposit cancers in people, in the GM food, in the poison deposited in water supplies; those 'culling' measures would bring a smile to your face. As long as it's not you, right?
And if it's you, then what?
Open your eyes. Read.
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« Reply #629 on: August 21, 2011, 10:46:57 am »
Where are you living? When you look out the window, is it in NYC or Vermont?
"Overpopulation" is a myth created by those who would like to rid the earth of 'useless eaters'.
OPEN YOUR EYES!

(Or is your purpose here to spread bullshit information you take directly from the globalists?)

And how many people are allowed? Who decides which people get culled? Are you in on those discussions?
(FYI: the 'culling' is well underway - you like that? You drink fluoridated water? Eat GM food? You planning to go off to fight in the manufactured wars? The population is being culled as we speak, and even as people like you are waving the 'overpopulation' banner asking for it.)

Read this thread:
   
Food as a Weapon: The Largest Conspiracy of Mass Murder in World History
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=187603.msg1112862#msg1112862

As long as you believe we are "overpopulated", you'll be in support of wars that kill millions, you'll be happy about the vaccines that deposit cancers in people, in the GM food, in the poison deposited in water supplies; those 'culling' measures would bring a smile to your face. As long as it's not you, right?
And if it's you, then what?
Open your eyes. Read.


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« Reply #630 on: August 22, 2011, 04:25:23 am »
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On some fronts like Diamonds and Probably metals and Food, the European aristocracy is creating a false paradigm by manipulating, money, the supply of food, introducing GMO to the soil. And they are hoarding loads of Gold and other precious metals the public will never have access to.

Diamonds? False paradigm is right! One of the biggest scams of the ages; that diamonds are rare, and are expensive accordingly. Basically, one company has a stranglehold on the diamond market; De Beers.

And where do more than 50% of all the world's diamonds pass? Antwerp. And who runs the diamond business in Antwerp? It would appear to be men of semetic persuation.

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« Reply #631 on: August 22, 2011, 04:54:49 am »
Diamonds? False paradigm is right! One of the biggest scams of the ages; that diamonds are rare, and are expensive accordingly. Basically, one company has a stranglehold on the diamond market; De Beers.

And where do more than 50% of all the world's diamonds pass? Antwerp. And who runs the diamond business in Antwerp? It would appear to be men of semetic persuation.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0005_0_05194.html

They probably ain't Jews...more likely Zionist Socialist Khazars. But they call themselves Jews.
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« Reply #632 on: August 22, 2011, 05:25:37 am »
They probably ain't Jews...more likely Zionist Socialist Khazars. But they call themselves Jews.

Could be, don't know really. But if you've ever seen the workers there, you'd see many males dressed as the Hassidic Jews do, with the black brimmed hat and the temple curls.(sorry, don't know the Hebrew name for them)

I personally don't know if most of them are practicing Jews or not. Doesn't really matter because the worker bees in the shops of the industry aren't who runs things.
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Re: Brainwashed Malthusian Zombies Parrot OVERPOPULATION MYTH on a Truth Forum
« Reply #633 on: August 22, 2011, 08:49:56 am »
Could be, don't know really. But if you've ever seen the workers there, you'd see many males dressed as the Hassidic Jews do, with the black brimmed hat and the temple curls.(sorry, don't know the Hebrew name for them)

I personally don't know if most of them are practicing Jews or not. Doesn't really matter because the worker bees in the shops of the industry aren't who runs things.

I have spent a lot of time in Antwerp: worked for Agfa, and they're based in Mortsel, next to Antwerp. The diamond business in Antwerp is a Jewish business; tucked into a small strip of shops with nondescript storefronts (or no storefronts, only garage doors) along the street. Most of the top quality cut diamonds in the world have been cut in those little shops. There are police guardstations at each end of the strip. If you didn't catch the garage doors opening (to reveal diamond showrooms) you'd never know it was the diamond district.
I would doubt the 'worker bees' are not Jewish; it's traditionally a family business.

But so what? If they're Hassidic (and yes, you'll see forelocks and wide brimmed black hats etc.) we know the Hassidic Jews do not support the Zionist NWO agenda. So what's the point?

(By the way, most of the diamonds are mined, and prices controlled by DeBeers. The diamond cutters do not control the diamonds flowing out of So.Africa and elsewhere; they're cutting the stones - not setting the prices.)

On Hassidic groups: the price of anti-zionism:

Do you think it's possible shift in attitude happened after the Rabbi and his wife were slaughtered in front of their toddler in Mumbai? Do you think it's possible that one of the 'opportunities' taken during this 'crisis' was to send a message to the folks of Chabad Lubavitch? Do you think they got the message?

Terrorists target Mumbai Jewish centre
By Amy Kazmin
Published: November 27 2008 09:09 | Last updated: November 27 2008 09:09
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/94143da6-bc5f-11dd-9efc-0000779fd18c,dwp_uuid=7f5f6b12-2f66-11da-8b51-00000e2511c8,print=yes.html

For thousands of Jewish travellers visiting Mumbai each year – ranging from Orthodox business people to young Israeli backpackers – the five-year old Chabad House was an important port of call, offering services that ranged from Kosher meals to holiday services to the sympathetic ear of a young rabbi.

But on Wednesday night, the Chabad House was one of the carefully-selected targets of the devastating terror attacks that rocked Mumbai. An Israeli rabbi connected to Chabad House was among at least three people being held hostage by gunmen. According to Reuters a woman and a child were released and one of the gunmen was killed. However, at least four armed men remained in the building by mid afternoon on Thursday Mumbai time.

The choice of the Chabad House as a target, heightening suspicions about the attackers’ potential international links, or influences.

India’s own radical Muslims have traditionally focused their wrath on the dominant Hindu population and has never previously targetted India’s tiny and diminishing indigenous Jewish community, which number just a few thousand.

The founders of the Chabad centre, Rabbi Gabriel Holtzberg, a young Israeli who also holds US citizenship, and his wife Rifka, were part of the Chabad Lubovitch movement, which is dedicated to deepening religious practice and observation among Jews – both faithful and secular.

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UPDATE: Mumbai-Based Rabbi and Wife Killed in Terrorist Attacks
http://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/773691/jewish/Mumbai-Jewish-Family-Killed.htm
By Joshua Runyan and Motti Seligson
Nov 28, 2008 11:00 AM

Rabbi Gavriel and Rivkah Holtzberg, the beloved directors of Chabad-Lubavitch of Mumbai, were killed during one of the worst terrorist attacks to strike India in recent memory.

Jewish communities around the world reacted with shock to the loss of the couple, who were killed Thursday at their Chabad House during an apparent standoff between Indian military forces and terrorists. Also killed at the Chabad House were kosher supervisors Rabbi Leibish Teitelbaum of New York and American-Israeli Bentzion Chroman. Citing confirmation from Israel's Foreign Ministry, the English Web site of Yediot Achronot reported the identity of a fifth victim as Israeli woman Yocheved Orpaz. At least one other hostage was reportedly killed.

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« Reply #634 on: August 22, 2011, 04:51:13 pm »
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But so what? If they're Hassidic (and yes, you'll see forelocks and wide brimmed black hats etc.) we know the Hassidic Jews do not support the Zionist NWO agenda. So what's the point?

(By the way, most of the diamonds are mined, and prices controlled by DeBeers. The diamond cutters do not control the diamonds flowing out of So.Africa and elsewhere; they're cutting the stones - not setting the prices.)

Exactly, so what. But I point it out so others won't say they run things, when they don't. As you say, they are just part of the industry, cutters. I was trying to not suggest something that isn't true, but I agree most of them are most likely practicing Jews, but not knowing them personally, I can't say exactly for sure.

As I said...

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« Reply #635 on: January 30, 2015, 03:19:18 pm »
I don't think it is an issue. People should be free to reproduce as much as they want. The circle of life is just that. People will die and people will be born. We don't need to have any type of limit.

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