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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #520 on: November 21, 2015, 01:42:36 pm »
We can not have a list be it muslim,christian republican or democrat, Its just not right.  Arm the people, to defend themselves with no restrictions, would be better way,
how many in here shout out on Obammee s executive orders? Yet it would be okay for Trump or anyone else!  We in trouble folks, 

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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
           
fill in everyline with a different group.  History repeating itself, and right in front of our noses.
Rev21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #521 on: November 21, 2015, 01:47:18 pm »
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #522 on: November 21, 2015, 01:47:52 pm »
^^^

Qster, I hope it is none of your family that is blown up by unchecked Boko Haram wannabes.

Thanks for that. I hope the same for your family, and everyone else, whether the perpetrators were 'checked' or not. Of course, your statement is not relevant as we are not talking about just 'checking' people against a terrorist list are we, but it's appreciated anyway.

Just so we know Jackson, do you support Donald Trump's policy of having a compulsory Muslim List, and do you support his policy of removing what's left of your liberties for 'security'?

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #523 on: November 21, 2015, 01:57:35 pm »
Good spot for a great truth by Ben Franklin

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”He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” ... ”If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.”

Rev21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #524 on: November 21, 2015, 02:35:28 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/260961-gop-operative-set-to-unveil-anti-trump-guerilla-campaign
GOP operative prepares anti-Trump 'guerilla campaign'
By Jesse Byrnes - 11/20/15 04:20 PM EST

Republican operative Liz Mair is planning a "guerrilla campaign" aimed at knocking Donald Trump out of the GOP presidential race,
The Wall Street Journal is reporting.

Mair, a former online communications director at the Republican National Committee who also worked on behalf of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's presidential campaign earlier this year, has formed Trump Card LLC "to defeat and destroy" Trump's candidacy, according to the report.

The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”

News of the recently formed group comes a day after the super-PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich, another GOP presidential rival, announced $2.5 million for TV, radio and other ads over two months targeting Trump in New Hampshire, where the real estate tycoon maintains a solid lead.

 Another group, the economic think tank Club for Growth, has already hit Trump with $1 million in ads in the early-voting state of Iowa.
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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #525 on: November 21, 2015, 02:59:41 pm »
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Trump Card LLC "to defeat and destroy" Trump's candidacy

I kind of figured that back when he signed the pledge not to go 3rd party.  He like others just can't by the idea that the party is bigger then the man. 

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“The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”
who then would beat her? Certainly NOT jebbie.
Rev21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #526 on: November 21, 2015, 04:23:23 pm »
^^^

Qster, I hope it is none of your family that is blown up by unchecked Boko Haram wannabes.
How is tyrannical, dehumanizing registration (including "watch lists" [hey let's fool people with the notion that watching suspected threats that we're in control of ourselves is going to mean anything]) of humans going to provide security when, once again, our own fraudulent government are the ones funding, arming, radicalizing, enabling, directing, coordinating, and managing the terrorists.

BOKO HARAM: A CIA COVERT OPERATION; AMERICA’S DESTABILIZATION PLOTS AGAINST NIGERIA–GREENWHITE COALITION
http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-a-cia-covert-operation-americas-destabilization-plots-against-nigeria-greenwhite-coalition/

Boko Haram is CIA Covert Op
http://stop-imperialism.com/2015/02/16/6052/
http://www.sott.net/article/277515-Boko-Haram-A-CIA-Covert-Operation



Nigeria: The Cia and Boko Haram Insurgency
http://allafrica.com/stories/201405271257.html

Is Boko Haram a CIA Covert Op to Divide and Conquer Africa?
https://libya360.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/is-boko-haram-a-cia-covert-op-to-divide-and-conquer-africa/

Boko Haram: US AFRICOM’S Latest False Flag Franchise
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/05/11/boko-haram-us-africoms-latest-false-flag-franchise/

Boko Haram false-flag ops to ease US intervention: Experts
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/05/13/362538/takfiris-ease-us-intervention-in-nigeria/

Is Boko Haram a psy-op?
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/14/362619/is-boko-haram-a-psyop



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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #527 on: November 21, 2015, 05:13:57 pm »
Thanks for that. I hope the same for your family, and everyone else, whether the perpetrators were 'checked' or not. Of course, your statement is not relevant as we are not talking about just 'checking' people against a terrorist list are we, but it's appreciated anyway.

Just so we know Jackson, do you support Donald Trump's policy of having a compulsory Muslim List, and do you support his policy of removing what's left of your liberties for 'security'?

Well, I was just trying to point out that we are talking about
cold-blooded murderers ... we would be stupid to hobble
ourselves with either political correctness or fear of over-reach
by law enforcement ... it is just common sense to monitor
suspects. Personally I am paranoid about govt spying on
individuals ... I have never carried a cellphone for instance,
for that reason.

I don't think Trump meant to say that ALL muslims in the US
should be electronically monitored ... I believe it was just an
off-the-cuff response to imply that SOMETHING has to be done ...
these tens (hundreds?) of thousands of practically unknown islamists
entering the country via immigration should be considered possibly
terror-prone ... duh! Electronic monitoring of recent, 'impossible
to vet' people from terrorist-ridden areas just seems common sense
to me. Same for GANGSTERS from South of the Border.

Having said that, though, it would probably not stop the crazies
who are usually suicidal maniacs. The use of 'tagging' for 'home
released' dangerous criminals is considered by many just a gesture,
a too lenient method to try to reduce prison over-crowding, for instance.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=235313.msg1510384#msg1510384

I, like Tahoe, can see this hoopla is just another empty attack ...
a grasping at straws ... to try to get some anti-Trump action going.

√ WIKIPEDIA: Electronic tagging - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_tagging
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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #528 on: November 21, 2015, 06:13:18 pm »
https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/11/10/trump-carson-continue-lead-gop-field-jeb-bush-dips/

Trump, Carson continue to lead GOP field; Jeb Bush dips to 3% support



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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  9h9 hours ago
Rumor has it - Pataki, Kasich, & Senator Lindsey Graham are dropping out of the race very soon. Hope it's not true, they're so easy to beat!
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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #529 on: November 21, 2015, 06:17:07 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


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Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments

Left-wing cable news network CNN has been caught red-handed selectively editing Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s comments about a “Muslim registry,” and doing so in order to make it sound as though he is agreeing to this registry. He is not.

The edited video is yet another lying log on the left-wing garbage fire that is CNN, and yet in just three weeks, this very same garbage fire is hosting the next Republican presidential debate!

What exactly does CNN have to do in order to lose its right to depose these candidates for two hours in front of the whole world? If CNN is already maliciously editing video to “take out” out the frontrunner, I don’t even want to speculate.

Courtesy of Gateway Pundit, watch the CNN video. Pay special attention to the sneaky edit just before Trump says “absolutely”:


The left-wing liars at CNN have intentionally edited the video to make it look as though Trump said “absolutely” to a Muslim registry. What CNN edited out is in bold:

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

Trump’s “absolutely” is clearly in reference to strengthening the border. Look at the whole transcript. When the NBC News reporter asks, “Is that something your White House would like to implement?,” Trump has just talked about fortifying the border and obviously believes that is what the NBC reporter is referring to.

CNN edited that out!

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #530 on: November 21, 2015, 06:20:30 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/21/donald-trump-rips-dishonest-media-wants-surveillance-certain-mosques/


Donald Trump Rips ‘Dishonest Media,’ Wants ‘Surveillance of Certain Mosques’

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama–GOP front runner Donald Trump is tearing into the media, and vowing to fight terrorists.

Before an enthusiastic crowd of 10,000 at the Birmingham-Jefferson Convention Complex on Saturday, Trump told the crowd, “They’re dishonest people. The media is so dishonest.”

Trump then set the record straight on how he wants to deal with the ISIS terrorist threat to America.

“I want surveillance of certain mosques,” he told the crowd. “You know what? We’ve had it before and we’ll have it again.”

The New York real estate billionaire mocked how the media will react to this announcement.

“Oh, they’re going to make such a big deal, …’he [Trump] said something so politically incorrect.’ ”

“That’s why we’re going to hell,” Trump told the crowd, “because we’re so politically correct.”

Trump also stated his actual position on the database issue that has been reported inaccurately by the mainstream media.

“I will absolutely take a database of the people coming in from Syria if we can’t stop it. But we’re going to,” Trump said.

“And if I win, I’ve made it known, if I win, they’re going back. We can’t have them,” he added.

The threat of terrorist attack by ISIS and ISIS sympathizers on American soil after the recent Paris attacks loom large in Trump’s policy prescriptions.

“You see what happened. A few nut jobs in Paris. A few total nuts, low lifes, the guy with the dirty hat… he’s no mastermind, he’s a lowlife,” Trump added.

But the media, Trump says, is not honestly reporting his policy positions.

“Today, in the New York Times, they had a report on the front page that was false,” Trump said. “Front page… But it’s a false story. And Breitbart wrote it correctly, and now The Times is suffering.”

Trump explained the origin of the false meme created and spread by the mainstream media that he had called for the registry of all Muslims in America in a data base:

Yesterday, some little wise guy, he looks like he was 12 years old, he’s got a camera. I’m signing autographs. He’s asking me questions. Talking about the wall. And I’m signing autographs. Talking about the wall. I’m going to build this… And there’s music plating in the background, and I’m leaving and this little wise guy is sitting there and he says to me questions… I’m just not even and I said to him, who are you with, and he said NBC, and once he said that I didn’t even bother answering his questions any more.

“And the biggest story of yesterday was ‘Trump Wants Database of Muslims,'” and I said “What’s all happening here?” Trump asked, incredulously.

“I spoke to the reporter for The Times. And I think I made it clear,” he said.

“And, I also said, number one, you couldn’t hear very well because it’s like you’re walking over here…. but regardless of that … but I do want a database for those people coming in, but I also insist on the wall, and it was all fine…and all of a sudden I end up with some stories, and I say ‘What are you talking about?'” Trump noted.

The event began on schedule at 11 am local time, when Trump bound on stage to the strains of “Sweet Home Alabama,” and lit into President Obama.

“We have a president who has represented us very poorly,” he began.

He also blasted the media for referring to the ISIS terrorists as “masterminds.”

“You can’t call these dopes, they’re dopes– they’ve got IQs that are low, believe me– you can’t call the leader of the dopes a mastermind,” Trump noted.

“Don’t call them masterminds. You’re building them up, you’re building them up, you’re building up their image,” Trump said.

The GOP front runner also criticized President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry for negotiating a bad deal with Iran.

“You know, we have a president who doesn’t know anything about what we’re talking about. He doesn’t know. In Iran, he calls the head, ‘the Supreme Leader.’ Yes. ‘The Supreme Leader.’ I promise you, I will never call him ‘The Supreme Leader,'” Trump said.

“We’re going to renegotiate the [Iran deal]. We’re going to make it much better,” Trump promised.

“Here we have Kerry, weak, ineffective, begging to make a deal, and we had all the cards!”

Trump also hit on the other major themes of his campaign, including the need for leadership, borders, and a wall at the border.

“We need leadership so badly. We’re laughed at. We’re scoffed at. We’re robbed,” Trump said.

“We have to take our country back. We have to bring our jobs back. We have to bring trade back. We have to repeal Obamacare. We have to replace it with something great,” he noted.

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #531 on: November 21, 2015, 06:28:29 pm »

I, like Tahoe, can see this hoopla is just another empty attack ...
a grasping at straws ... to try to get some anti-Trump action going.



  +1----THE LEFT WOULD RATHER HAVE CARSON AS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE AGAINST HILLDOG.  She would eat him alive.

Another article....   http://www.newswithviews.com/Berry/ed100.htm

WHY A VOTE FOR CARSON IS A VOTE FOR RUBIO



By Dr. Ed Berry, PhD, Physics
November 21, 2015
NewsWithViews.com

This article is pro Republican. I write not to tell you who to vote for but to help conservatives understand how they must vote to win. For fair disclosure, I am a hat-wearing supporter of Donald Trump.

For the first time since Reagan, Republicans have a chance to nominate a conservative presidential candidate who can win the final election. That candidate is Donald Trump.

Whether conservatives accomplish this goal depends upon how collectively smart they are. If they are smart, they will come together to achieve their common goal.

First, the facts

Following the November 11 debate, the Republican presidential race is down to 4 candidates.

A pre-debate CNN/ORC poll shows Trump, Carson, Rubio and Cruz polling 25, 23, 13 and 11 percent, respectively. All other candidates have less than 6 percent.

A newer and more accurate pre-debate YouGov.com poll shows Trump, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz polling 32, 18, 11, and 8 percent, respectively. Bush also got 8 percent but he cannot catch Rubio who is his major competitor. All other candidates got less than 5 percent.

In his after debate comments, Dick Morris said he is even more certain that one of the above four candidates will win the nomination.

To understand the polls, we must quantify the votes in candidate categories.

If we add the poll percentages separately for candidates whom we might loosely define in voter perspective as conservative – Trump, Carson, Cruz, Paul, Huckabee - and moderate – Rubio, Bush, Fiorina, Kasich, Christy, Jindal - we find the conservative candidates get about 2/3 of the votes and the moderates about 1/3.

But this cannot be. Conservatives do not outnumber moderates by 2 to 1. So what’s up?

The answer is Donald Trump. Trump, uniquely among the candidates, draws uniform support from moderates, somewhat conservatives, and very conservatives. Trump draws strong support from Latino and black voters, independents and conservative Democrats.

No other candidate does this and no presidential candidate has done this since Ronald Reagan.

In summary, the poll data show Trump draws 1/3, moderates draw 1/3, and conservatives draw 1/3. Donald Trump is an island unto himself.

The conclusion that conservatives should back Donald Trump if they want to win is obvious, but let’s go further to see why this is critical.

David Wasserman’s “The GOPs Primary Rules might doom Carson, Cruz and Trump” confirms this conclusion. His footnote says “Trump’s support is relatively evenly distributed among moderate, somewhat conservative and very conservative Republicans.”

In politics, the side with the smartest strategic voters wins. In 2016, conservatives have a unique opportunity to elect a conservative president.

Here’s some stuff we need to know

Wasserman shows why the GOP always nominates a more moderate president than the Republicans it sends to Congress. The system is rigged. The GOP’s distribution of presidential delegates gives more weight to voters in the blue states than to voters in the red states.

Under RNC’s delegate geography, an average vote in a blue state gets twice as many delegates as an average vote in a red state. In the extreme, a GOP vote cast in the bluest part of the Bronx is worth 43 times as many delegates as the reddest part of Alabama.

As you would expect, GOP voters in blue states vote for more moderate presidential candidates while GOP voters in red states vote for more conservative presidential candidates.

Since blue state votes get twice as many delegates per vote as the red state votes, the GOP bias favors moderate candidates over conservative candidates by 2 to 1.

Rubio will very likely get the moderate 1/3 of GOP votes. Carson and Cruz will compete for the conservative 1/3 of GOP votes. It does not matter whether Cruz or Carson wins these votes. The total of their votes will not be more than the total votes for Rubio. The GOP 2 to 1 delegate bias will nominate Rubio over either Cruz or Carson.

Bottom line: Neither Cruz nor Carson can beat Rubio

The only candidate who can beat Rubio is Trump because Trump draws support from Rubio’s moderate base as well as from independents and conservative Democrats.

To understand this, we must understand the demographics of the Republican Party.

The well-known four faces of the Republican Party and their approximate compositions are Somewhat Conservative (40 percent), Moderate to Liberal (30 percent), Very Conservative but Secular (10 percent), and Very Conservative Evangelical (20 percent).

Evangelical voters are found in all four faces of the Republican Party. The Very Conservative Evangelicals are the more extreme evangelicals who dominate the tea party.

The 10 percent Very Conservative but Secular voters always support the Republican nominee. The 20 percent Very Conservative Evangelical voters do not. This is the source of the well-known “split” in the Republican Party.

On the flip side, the other 80 percent of the Republican Party do not vote for overly evangelical candidates. The 80 percent will vote for either Trump or Rubio but not for Carson or Cruz. Sorry, that is reality.

No matter how many times the 20 percent Very Conservative Evangelicals (VCE) may call other Republicans “RINO’s,” the simple fact is their VCE “marketing niche” is too small to elect one of their own.

Carson’s support comes from the VCE face of the Republican Party. Every Carson bumper sticker I have seen has a “Ten Commandments” bumper sticker beside it. Not to criticize the Ten Commandments but this tells us who supports Carson.

Carson’s supporters make a big mistake. Ben Carson’s evangelical supporters think he is a conservative because they assume every Bible-thumping candidate is a conservative. But Carson is not the conservative they think he is.

Therefore, as they learn more about Carson, they may change to another candidate. Polls show Carson’s support is “soft” and his supporters may change their minds.

Arkansas Times columnist Gene Lyons wrote “Ben Carson’s screwball candidacy doomed to fail,”

Every four years, rural Iowa Republicans fall raptly in love with a Bible-brandishing savior who vows to purge the nation of sin. Soon after the New Hampshire primary, the holy candidate fades fast.

Carson’s fans have been slow to grasp that their party’s presidential nominee will need the votes of millions of “blue state” Republicans historically resistant to religious zealotry.

While Carson’s supporters would prefer Trump over Rubio, they are unaware their support of Carson will only help Rubio. That’s not smart voting.

Kevin “Coach” Collins wrote about the liberal media,

They would all love to see Carson as the Republican nominee because they know he would lose massively to their favorite felon Hillary Clinton.

A dispassionate review of what Carson brings to the table, his lack of substantive ideas at best, bad ideas and crazy beliefs at worst, makes him the best hope the media has of electing their favorite felon.

Unless Carson supporters wakeup and support Trump, conservatives may lose their greatest opportunity to elect a conservative president since Ronald Reagan.

Carson supports Obama’s Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) which will kill American jobs and flood America with more foreign workers. This should be a wakeup call to his supporters who believe Carson is a conservative. Trump is very much against TPP.

I argued that Carson’s statements on climate make him susceptible to irrational measures to “address” climate change in the name of saving the environment. By contrast, Trump is very clear about how he thinks the Democrat’s climate claims are a hoax that harms our economy.

Dick Morris said his biggest fear is Carson may block Trump from winning the nomination.

Morris hopes Carson’s credibility will fall apart before the Iowa caucus. Morris hopes Carson’s whoppers will wake up his supporters. Carson said Egyptians built the pyramids to store grain. He said rather than sending troops to Afghanistan after 9-11, he would have focused on energy independence instead. He said the holocaust would not have happened if the Jews had guns.

Forget what some polls say, Carson cannot beat Hillary. These polls are meaningless because the average voter has no idea about who can beat Hillary. Dick Morris says Hillary would eat Carson alive.

Good news is tea party activist and former congressional candidate Katrina Pierson has joined the Trump train. Pierson will act as the national spokeswoman for Donald Trump. This is a good move by the Trump team to counter the Carson threat.



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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #532 on: November 21, 2015, 07:42:29 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


  VIDEO AT THE LINK.....

Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments


Those filthy left-wing LIARS should be arrested! And when Trump IS president ...
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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #533 on: November 21, 2015, 07:50:42 pm »
How is tyrannical, dehumanizing registration (including "watch lists" [hey let's fool people with the notion that watching suspected threats that we're in control of ourselves is going to mean anything]) of humans going to provide security when, once again, our own fraudulent government are the ones funding, arming, radicalizing, enabling, directing, coordinating, and managing the terrorists.

BOKO HARAM: A CIA COVERT OPERATION; AMERICA’S DESTABILIZATION PLOTS AGAINST NIGERIA–GREENWHITE COALITION
http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-a-cia-covert-operation-americas-destabilization-plots-against-nigeria-greenwhite-coalition/

Boko Haram is CIA Covert Op
http://stop-imperialism.com/2015/02/16/6052/
http://www.sott.net/article/277515-Boko-Haram-A-CIA-Covert-Operation



Nigeria: The Cia and Boko Haram Insurgency
http://allafrica.com/stories/201405271257.html

Is Boko Haram a CIA Covert Op to Divide and Conquer Africa?
https://libya360.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/is-boko-haram-a-cia-covert-op-to-divide-and-conquer-africa/

Boko Haram: US AFRICOM’S Latest False Flag Franchise
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/05/11/boko-haram-us-africoms-latest-false-flag-franchise/

Boko Haram false-flag ops to ease US intervention: Experts
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/05/13/362538/takfiris-ease-us-intervention-in-nigeria/

Is Boko Haram a psy-op?
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/14/362619/is-boko-haram-a-psyop

I was wondering the same thing. Once that door is opened, then ANYBODY deemed suspicious gets tracked in accordance with the “public will”. No probable cause. No previous crime.

I don't know how many times I've read about a “terrorist” attack where the person “was known by intelligence agencies/law enforcement.” Managed destabilization assets tend to be protected as long as they're doing the will of the government that created them. That's why we always see a patsy or reports of the bad guys escaping only to be killed with scant evidence of such.
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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #534 on: November 21, 2015, 08:07:05 pm »
I was wondering the same thing. Once that door is opened, then ANYBODY deemed suspicious gets tracked in accordance with the “public will”. No probable cause. No previous crime.

I don't know how many times I've read about a “terrorist” attack where the person “was known by intelligence agencies/law enforcement.” Managed destabilization assets tend to be protected as long as they're doing the will of the government that created them. That's why we always see a patsy or reports of the bad guys escaping only to be killed with scant evidence of such.
Yup, that's a great way to put it there "as long as they are doing the will of the government".  Which also perfectly explains exactly why for the last 15+ years, you constantly hear about how all these different "terrorists" were ALWAYS under surveillance for years!  Because they are doing the will of TPTB!

And their justification for this change...Abdulmutallab and the false flag Chertoff ordered flaming crotch...

Let's just go through the evidence they had on this guy who was put on the plane by a US INTELLIGENCE OFFICER...

1. His dad, a former minister in Nigeria, informed the US embassy there that his son had been radicalized
2. US intelligence had been following him for a while, dubbing him “the Nigerian”
3. He was on various international watch lists
4. He had been banned from Britain
5. The British intelligence service had identified him to our intelligence agencies in 2008 as a potential threat
6. He bought a one-way ticket to the United States in Africa through Europe
7. He paid cash
8. He checked no luggage
9. He had no passport
10. His VISA was flagged multiple times
11. He was staggering and practically unconscious likely due to forced intake of pharmaceuticals (standard operating procedure for a false flag)
12. HE WAS LED ON THE PLANE BY A SHARP DRESSED US INTELLIGENCE OFFICER
13. THE FACT THAT HE WAS LED ON THE PLANE BY A US INTELLIGENCE OFFICER IS NOT ONLY CONFIRMED BY EYEWITNESSES BUT BY THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE PATRICK KENNEDY

Now how does adding another 10 or 100 million to an illegal watch list help when the INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS ARE COMMITTING THE F-ING TERROR!?!?!?!?!


State Department Admits:
Detroit Christmas Bomber Was Deliberately Allowed to Keep US Entry Visa, Board His Flight

http://tarpley.net/2010/02/11/state-department-admits-detroit-christmas-bomber-was-deliberately-allowed-to-keep-us-entry-visa-board-his-flight/
Webster G. Tarpley TARPLEY.net February 10, 2010


The Detroit Christmas bomber was deliberately and intentionally allowed to keep his US entry visa as the result of a national security override issued by an as yet unknown US intelligence or law-enforcement agency with the goal of blocking the State Department’s planned revocation of that visa. This is the result of hearings held on January 27 before the House Homeland Security Committee, and in particular of the testimony of Patrick F. Kennedy, Undersecretary of State for Management. The rickety US government official version of the December 25 Detroit underwear bomber incident, which has been jerry-built over the past month and a half, has now totally collapsed, and key elements of the terrorism-spawning rogue network inside US agencies and departments are unusually vulnerable to a determined campaign of exposure.

These developments decisively confirm the analysis offered by the present writer in a Dec. 28, 2009 television interview on Russia Today.1 On that occasion, my estimate was that Mutallab was a protected patsy being used by rogue elements of the US intelligence community for the deliberate and intentional creation of a high profile incident with the goal of obtaining a large-scale political effect. On January 4, Richard Wolffe reported on the MSNBC Countdown program that the Obama White House was investigating whether the Detroit Christmas incident had been “intentionally” created by an intelligence network with an “alternative agenda.”2 It was in this report that Wolffe posed the alternative of “cock-up or conspiracy.”3 Unfortunately, Obama opted for the screw-up version on January 5.

Based on what was already known a few days after this incident, it was clear that normal screening and surveillance procedures had been scrapped and aborted in order to allow the youthful patsy Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab of Nigeria to board his flight from Amsterdam in the Netherlands to Detroit. Mutallab’s father, a rich, well known, and reputable Nigerian banker had gone to the US Embassy in his country and formally warned a State Department official as well as a CIA representative that his son was in Yemen and in all probability consorting with terrorists. Under normal circumstances, this report alone would have been more than enough to get Mutallab’s US visa revoked in the same way he had already been denied entry to Great Britain. He also would normally have been placed on the no-fly list, thus setting up two insuperable obstacles to getting on his Detroit bound flight and winging off to produce an incident which caused several weeks of public hysteria in this country, completely with demands for body scanners in airports. In addition, the US intelligence community had reports that a Nigerian was training with the purported “Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula” in Yemen. Obama had called a December 22 meeting with top CIA, FBI, and DHS officials because of reports of a terrorist attack looming during the Christmas holiday.

The January 27 hearings of the House Homeland Security Committee were also addressed by Michael Leiter, the AWOL Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, along with Jane Holl Lute, the Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security, who was sent in place of HHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, who boycotted the hearings. But the important testimony came from Kennedy, whose responsibilities include Consular Services, and therefore visas. In his opening statement, Kennedy offered a tortured circumlocution to describe what had happened. Attempting to head off the question of why the State Department had not revoked Mutallab’s visa, Kennedy stated:

“We will use revocation authority prior to interagency consultation in circumstances where we believe there is an immediate threat. Revocation is an important tool in our border security arsenal. At the same time, expeditious coordination with our national security partners is not to be underestimated. There have been numerous cases where our unilateral and uncoordinated revocation would have disrupted important investigations that were underway by one of our national security partners. They had the individual under investigation and our revocation action would have disclosed the U.S. Government’s interest in the individual and ended our colleagues’ ability to quietly pursue the case and identify terrorists’ plans and co-conspirators.” 4

Undersecretary Kennedy: An Agency Objected to Revoking Visa

Not surprisingly, House Homeland Security Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) wanted to know what that really meant. Here is his exchange with Undersecretary Kennedy:

REP. THOMPSON: Okay. So — all right. So he has a visa. So what does that do? In the process, does it revoke the visa? Does it —

MR. KENNEDY: We — as I mentioned in my statement, Mr. Chairman, if we unilaterally revoked a visa — and there was a case recently up — we have a request from a law enforcement agency to not revoke the visa. We came across information; we said this is a dangerous person. We were ready to revoke the visa. We then went to the community and said, should we revoke this visa? And one of the members — and we’d be glad to give you that out of — in private — said, please do not revoke this visa. We have eyes on this person. We are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying roll up an entire network, not just stop one person. So we will revoke the visa of any individual who is a threat to the United States, but we do take one preliminary step. We ask our law enforcement and intelligence community partners, do you have eyes on this person, and so you want us to let this person proceed under your surveillance so that you may potentially break a larger plot?

REP. THOMPSON: Well, I think that the point that I’m trying to get at is, is this just another box you’re checking, or is that some security value to add in that box, to the list?

MR. KENNEDY: The intelligence and law enforcement community tell us that they believe in certain cases that there’s a higher value of them following this person so they can find his or her co-conspirators and roll up an entire plot against the United States, rather than simply knock out one soldier in that effort.5

What Kennedy is saying is that the established bureaucratic routine calls for the State Department to inquire of the other intelligence and law enforcement agencies that compose the US intelligence community whether they have any objection to the lifting of a visa. In this case, reports Kennedy, there was such an objection from at least one agency, based on their contention that Mutallab was under intensive scrutiny as part of an operation which might lead to the discovery and arrest of far bigger fish. We should also notice that Kennedy is extremely reluctant to speak before the committee in public session about exactly which intelligence or law-enforcement agency this was, and that the members of the committee do not demand an immediate straight answer. Perhaps Kennedy told them later, behind the closed doors of a secret executive session. But after weeks of hysteria, the public has a right to know.

Classic Use of National Security Override to Protect A Patsy

What we see here is a classic example of the use of a national security override on the part of subversive moles who are performing their most basic responsibility of protecting a patsy by preventing him from being arrested or otherwise interfered with until that patsy can perform his assigned task and produce the desired incident, with the goal of inducing an intensive political response in the form of a wave of public hysteria. With this method, the name of the patsy is in effect flagged in all the relevant databases with the notation that this person is the target of an ongoing investigation which cannot be interfered with because of overriding national security concerns. This means that the patsy in question is immune to arrest by traffic cops, airport and border officials, or any other law enforcement official. The patsy is untouchable — until of course the terrorist provocation has been carried out.

Various alleged 9/11 figures operated for extended periods of time inside the US, evidently under the cover of such national security overrides. How did the accused 19 9/11 hijackers enter and leave this country, obtain visas, rent apartments, acquire checking accounts and credit cards, obtain driver’s licenses, register vehicles, rent cars, attend flight schools, and repeatedly fly on US domestic airlines? How did they escape arrest for traffic violations, which some of them committed? The answer is in all likelihood that they had been made untouchable to ordinary law enforcement because their names had been flagged with national security overrides which made them immune to arrest for routine infractions or because their names appeared on watch lists and similar databases.

Congressman Michael McCaul (R-TX) returned to this sensitive issue in his questioning of Undersecretary Kennedy, leading to the following exchange:

REP. MCCAUL: Well, I think there needs to be a lot better coordination going on here between these two entities. And Mr. Kennedy, why given the information that you had, why wasn’t the VISA revoked?

MR. KENNEDY: Sir, as I mentioned earlier, when we get any information, when anyone appears at an American embassy and they say that they have doubts about someone, we immediately generate what is called a visa VIPER message. We sent that to the entire law enforcement and intelligence —

REP. MCCAUL: My problem — I understand the process. But you had this information, and you didn’t revoke the VISA.

MR. KENNEDY: Because —

REP. MCCAUL: I mean the cable I just read makes it pretty clear that this man is associated with extremists in Yemen, and you didn’t revoke his VISA.

MR. KENNEDY: What it was, sir, is his father said he was associated with this. And so we then asked the intelligence and law enforcement communities if they have any other information. I don’t want to take much of your time, and I’d glad to visit with you afterwards. 6

We note again the tremendous reticence of Undersecretary Kennedy in getting into the details of how the national security override was issued in the case of Mutallab’s visa. Kennedy suggests he will explain it all to the Congressman in private, but not in the full glare of public opinion were his words will end up on the Federal News transcript.

Demand to Know Who Let Mutallab Keep His Visa

Instead, it is imperative for the preservation of democratic institutions that the full details be known of how the State Department was prevented from revoking Mutallab’s visa. We want to know which agency demanded that Mutallab not be interfered with. We want to know the names and posts held by the officials who issued the override of the State Department’s proposal. We want these officials fired. We want these officials thoroughly investigated. We want them to appear before public congressional hearings. We want them to be the targets of civil suits by airlines and other interested parties. We want to find out the nature of any privately controlled intelligence networks to which they may belong. Such an investigation may well lead outside of the United States, and most particularly to the United Kingdom. Mutallab comes from Nigeria, a former British colony. He spent several years in London, the site of MI-6’s Londonistan school for Islamic fundamentalist extremist patsies and fanatics, where he was apparently radicalized. Mutallab was then you sheep dipped into Yemen, another former British colony, where he was placed in contact with Awlaki the CIA lackey, a notorious double agent and agent provocateur. Given the fact that Mutallab was operating outside of this US, the CIA is an obvious suspect, but not the only one.

There is every reason to conclude that the rogue network of moles operating inside US intelligence — otherwise known as the invisible government or shadow government — knew that Mutallab was coming, knew that he would be carrying a device resembling a bomb, and wanted him to enter the skies over Detroit. (Whether Mutallab’s handlers thought they were giving him a bomb that would actually go off is a separate question.) They did all this because they sincerely wanted a major terrorist provocation of the US population, designed to unleash waves of Islamophobic hysteria that would be useful for the support of ongoing operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and quite possibly against Iran.

Not Body Scanners, But Mole Detectors at CIA and FBI

Earlier commentaries on this incident had alleged a failure to connect the dots. As it now transpires, the dots were evidently connected by the State Department, but their action was blocked by an override issued by another agency. Another popular cover story for the failure of screening and surveillance on Christmas between Amsterdam and Detroit was that Mutallab’s name had been misspelled when entered into the relevant antiterrorist database. Kennedy conceded in his testimony that one such data entry was misspelled, but another one was entered accurately. All of this needs to be viewed with great skepticism.

Apart from these details, it should be clear to all that the official US account of the Detroit Christmas incident has now been completely refuted. We do not need body scanners at airports. We need mole detectors installed at the CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA, State Department, NCTC, and the National Security Council. The urgent necessity is now to find out precisely who issued a critical override that allowed Mutallab to keep his visa and board his flight to Detroit. Pull on that thread and revelations might well follow that lead back to the networks behind 9/11, Iran Contra, and much else. Political forces friendly to Obama have tended to see this case as staged in order to embarrass the tenant of the White House. These forces should now demand immediate congressional hearings into the allegations contained in Undersecretary Kennedy’s testimony.


1http://tarpley.net/2009/12/28/tarpley-on-rt-nigerian-patsy-helps-us-meddling-in-yemen-civil-war/
2http://tarpley.net/2010/01/05/obama-white-house-probing-rogue-network-of-moles-behind-christmas-detroit-patsy-fiasco-reports-richard-wolffe-on-msnbc/
3http://tarpley.net/2010/01/06/obama-flubs-his-first-bay-of-pigs-moment-as-terror-moles-escape-purge/
4 http://www.state.gov/m/rls/remarks/2010/135865.htm
5See Federal News Service transcript of the Q&A before the committee at: http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=25151&docId=l:1117012781&start=15 , emphasis added.
6See Federal News Service transcript of the Q&A before the committee at: http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=25151&docId=l:1117012781&start=15 , emphasis added.
Context of 'January 27, 2010: State Department Told Not to Revoke Christmas Day Bomber’s Visa'
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a012710novisarevoke



December 25, 2009: Man Attempts to Set Off Bomb on Flight to US

A man on board Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit is subdued by passengers after attempting to detonate a makeshift bomb hidden in his undergarments. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old man from Nigeria, tries to ignite a mixture of plastic and liquid explosives sewn into his underwear as the Airbus 330 makes its final descent into Detroit. Abdulmutallab is set afire and suffers serious burns along with two other passengers, is detained by passengers and crew, and is arrested after landing. The suspect previously flew on a KLM flight from Lagos to Amsterdam. MI5 and US intelligence officials begin an investigation into his social ties and background. Abdulmutallab is the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker and studied engineering at University College London for three years until June 2008. His father claims to have informed Nigerian and American officials of his son’s increasingly unusual behavior and activities. US officials allegedly placed the 23-year-old on a list of suspected extremists, yet he possesses a US visa valid from June 2008 to June 2010, and appears on no lists prohibiting air travel to the US. Following the event, the US government will request that all passengers traveling from Britain to the US be subjected to additional personal and baggage searches. Security measures at US airports will also be heightened. [The Telegraph, 12/26/2009; New York Times, 12/26/2009]


January 27, 2010: State Department Told Not to Revoke Christmas Day Bomber’s Visa

Testimony by Patrick F. Kennedy, an under secretary for management at the State Department, before the House Committee on Homeland Security confirms that US intelligence officials prevented the State Department from revoking the US visa of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. The 23-year-old Nigerian student, whom US intelligence believed was working with the Yemeni arm of al-Qaeda, attempted to set off a bomb on Northwest Flight 253 into Detroit on December 25, 2009 (see December 25, 2009). Kennedy informs the committee’s chairman, Congressman Bennie Thompson (D-MS): “We will revoke the visa of any individual who is a threat to the United States, but we do take one preliminary step. We ask our law enforcement and intelligence community partners, ‘Do you have eyes on this person and do you want us to let this person proceed under your surveillance so that you may potentially break a larger plot?’ And one of the members—and we’d be glad to give you that out of—in private—said: ‘Please do not revoke this visa. We have eyes on this person. We are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying to roll up an entire network, not just stop one person.’” With the exception of a story appearing in the Detroit News, this revelation will go unreported in mainstream news media outlets. [US Congress. House. Committee on Homeland Security, 1/27/2010; Detroit News, 1/27/2010]


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« Reply #535 on: November 22, 2015, 12:56:03 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


  VIDEO AT THE LINK.....

Cancel the Debate! CNN Caught Selectively-Editing Trump’s ‘Muslim’ Comments


This is quite funny since breitbart are doing exactly the same thing as cnn.

While it is probably true that Trump said "I would implement that" with reference to the wall he wants to build, the reporter then asked him "About Muslims specifically, would you register them in mosques?" to which Trump replied "Lot's of places, just needs good management"; the reporter then asked whether registration would be mandatory to which Trump replied "it would have to be".

Breitbart failed to mention that..

So it's clear, Trump was advocating a compulsory Muslim List and breitbart's dishonest spin cannot hide that.

The FULL video can be viewed here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3326559/It-s-management-Donald-Trump-backs-mandatory-database-track-Muslims-United-States.html#ixzz3sFSkH7V4




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« Reply #536 on: November 22, 2015, 01:05:03 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/21/donald-trump-rips-dishonest-media-wants-surveillance-certain-mosques/


Donald Trump Rips ‘Dishonest Media,’ Wants ‘Surveillance of Certain Mosques’


Trump is lying and backtracking and trying to weasel out of what he is clearly on record as saying. He might be new to politics but he isn't wasting any time in emulating the worst dissembling political hacks out there.


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« Reply #537 on: November 22, 2015, 01:11:06 pm »
Well, I was just trying to point out that we are talking about
cold-blooded murderers ... we would be stupid to hobble
ourselves with either political correctness or fear of over-reach
by law enforcement ... it is just common sense to monitor
suspects. Personally I am paranoid about govt spying on
individuals ... I have never carried a cellphone for instance,
for that reason.

I don't think Trump meant to say that ALL muslims in the US
should be electronically monitored ... I believe it was just an
off-the-cuff response to imply that SOMETHING has to be done ...
these tens (hundreds?) of thousands of practically unknown islamists
entering the country via immigration should be considered possibly
terror-prone ... duh! Electronic monitoring of recent, 'impossible
to vet' people from terrorist-ridden areas just seems common sense
to me. Same for GANGSTERS from South of the Border.

Having said that, though, it would probably not stop the crazies
who are usually suicidal maniacs. The use of 'tagging' for 'home
released' dangerous criminals is considered by many just a gesture,
a too lenient method to try to reduce prison over-crowding, for instance.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=235313.msg1510384#msg1510384

I, like Tahoe, can see this hoopla is just another empty attack ...
a grasping at straws ... to try to get some anti-Trump action going.

ã WIKIPEDIA: Electronic tagging - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_tagging

You are 'paranoid' about government intrusion but only for yourself it seems - it's ok if others are targeted

It's not an empty attack on Trump because we gained an insight into the guy's lack of judgement and general lack of comprehension of the issues involved, and with the latest dissembling, his lack of honesty.

From this incident alone, Trump is exposed as an ill-considered fascist totalitarian, and then a liar and a dissembler; so quite revealing.

But maybe that's ok if he's your totalitarian dissembler..

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« Reply #538 on: November 22, 2015, 01:18:08 pm »
Hope you are enjoying your "freedom" in EU controlled Germany ...

You are 'paranoid' about government intrusion but only for yourself it seems - it's ok if others are targeted

It's not an empty attack on Trump because we gained an insight into the guy's lack of judgement and general lack of comprehension of the issues involved, and with the latest dissembling, his lack of honesty.

From this incident alone, Trump is exposed as an ill-considered fascist totalitarian, and then a liar and a dissembler; so quite revealing.
But maybe that's ok since he's your totalitarian dissembler..
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« Reply #539 on: November 22, 2015, 01:24:50 pm »
Hope you are enjoying your "freedom" in EU controlled Germany ...

Meaning what..that it's so much freer in the banker-controlled US? That's quite a joke. There are a great many Americans in Germany and elsewhere in Europe who would never go back to living in the US, and I would be one of them were it not for family commitments.

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« Reply #540 on: November 22, 2015, 01:58:08 pm »
Meaning what..that it's so much freer in the banker-controlled US? That's quite a joke. There are a great many Americans in Germany and elsewhere in Europe who would never go back to living in the US, and I would be one of them were it not for family commitments.


Just considering the source ...
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« Reply #541 on: November 22, 2015, 02:04:39 pm »

Just considering the source ...

I see..well in this case, and I suspect in most cases, the source as a geographical location is irrelevant.

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« Reply #542 on: November 22, 2015, 05:29:52 pm »
Donald Trump and Ben Carson, the two enduring frontrunners in the race to become the Republican party’s presidential candidate, have both indicated they would bring back waterboarding and other forms of “enhanced interrogation” that were dropped by the US government, having widely been denounced as a form of torture.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-and-carson-back-use-of-waterboarding-in-fight-against-isis/ar-BBnjzIF
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« Reply #543 on: November 22, 2015, 06:08:56 pm »
You are 'paranoid' about government intrusion but only for yourself it seems - it's ok if others are targeted

It's not an empty attack on Trump because we gained an insight into the guy's lack of judgement and general lack of comprehension of the issues involved, and with the latest dissembling, his lack of honesty.

From this incident alone, Trump is exposed as an ill-considered fascist totalitarian, and then a liar and a dissembler; so quite revealing.

But maybe that's ok if he's your totalitarian dissembler..

THE VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


Again, this wole hoopla is so miniscule it is ridiculous ... the guy was asking 'gotcha'
questions ... THEN his bosses edited and rigged the conversation. Go back and watch it!
You can see Trump had not thought thru the whole notion of 'tracking' suspects (the
reporter brought it up out of the blue). PARAPHRASING - DT looks at him half understanding the
question , "Oh, yeah ... there are lots of things we gotta do, blah, blah, blah" ... then he
took the conversation back to his real 'platform', a border 'wall'. Go to the 20sec mark,
you can see the edit:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

THEY EDITED OUT THE RED!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DT says he really thought the reporter was referring to HIS concept
of a stronger border ... not some nebulous, cooked up by a half-assed
reporter 'data-base'. NBC rigged this entire thing ... INVENTED it from
whole cloth and it spread like wild-fire because CERTAIN NUMBSKULLS,
dissemblers all, lapped-it-up, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
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« Reply #544 on: November 22, 2015, 07:08:36 pm »
THE VIDEO: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/21/cancel-the-debate-cnn-caught-selectively-editing-trumps-muslim-comments/


Again, this wole hoopla is so miniscule it is ridiculous ... the guy was asking 'gotcha'
questions ... THEN his bosses edited and rigged the conversation. Go back and watch it!
You can see Trump had not thought thru the whole notion of 'tracking' suspects (the
reporter brought it up out of the blue). PARAPHRASING - DT looks at him half understanding the
question , "Oh, yeah ... there are lots of things we gotta do, blah, blah, blah" ... then he
took the conversation back to his real 'platform', a border 'wall'. Go to the 20sec mark,
you can see the edit:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims who are in this country?

Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we need to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

Reporter: Is that something your White House would like to implement?

Donald Trump: I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

THEY EDITED OUT THE RED!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DT says he really thought the reporter was referring to HIS concept
of a stronger border ... not some nebulous, cooked up by a half-assed
reporter 'data-base'. NBC rigged this entire thing ... INVENTED it from
whole cloth and it spread like wild-fire because CERTAIN NUMBSKULLS,
dissemblers all, lapped-it-up, took the bait, hook, line and sinker.

haha, before blowing a gasket, and abusing the oversized red bolded font, you should have read my other replies on this thread. I answered this point in reply 535 - brietbart were even more dishonest than cnn..

So when you've read that, and then visited the link I posted, and viewed the FULL video clips, come back here and carry on talking about about NUMBSKULLS.

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« Reply #545 on: November 22, 2015, 07:36:56 pm »
^^^

No, I read thru all that 'gotcha' stuff ... and it was not
Breitbart that broke the story that NBC edited the
vid on the Hit Piece ... it was Rush on the day after.
The BIG THING here is that the discredited MSM is
playing this as if DT said and believes the US should
electronically TRACK ALL muslims! Trump clearly
thinks the LIBTARD questioner is referring to the
RECENT unknown 'migrants' from terror-prone areas ...
the RECENT MIGRANTS that the last few news cycles
have been about, near wall-to-wall, since similar
'migrants' in PARIS gunned down those people!
Monitor Mosques ... heck yeah! They are cover for
these _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. We are at war ... get a clue.





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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #546 on: November 22, 2015, 08:31:32 pm »
^^^

No, I read thru all that 'gotcha' stuff ... and it was not
Breitbart that broke the story that NBC edited the
vid on the Hit Piece ... it was Rush on the day after.
The BIG THING here is that the discredited MSM is
playing this as if DT said and believes the US should
electronically TRACK ALL muslims! Trump clearly
thinks the LIBTARD questioner is referring to the
RECENT unknown 'migrants' from terror-prone areas ...
the RECENT MIGRANTS that the last few news cycles
have been about, near wall-to-wall, since similar
'migrants' in PARIS gunned down those people!
Monitor Mosques ... heck yeah! They are cover for
these _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. We are at war ... get a clue.

Neither you nor Trump can get your stories straight. First you say that he was referring to his wall idea, now you say "oh no he meant recent migrants".

Well he had plenty of opportunity to say what he meant, and to denounce the idea of a Muslim List when it was put to him not just once but later the same day. He did not do so, and what he did say was very clear.

You can carry on covering and obfuscating aand making excuses all you want, but the evidence is clear for anyone to see, which I suspect you still haven't even watched.

Trump has been exposed as a fascist totalitarian, and a dissembling liar; no wonder he is best pals with the Clintons.

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #547 on: November 22, 2015, 08:48:37 pm »
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-trump-retakes-lead-gop-race-cruz-makes-gains-n466651

  article dated 11/20/2015

Donald Trump Retakes Lead in GOP Race; Ted Cruz Makes Gains: Poll

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« Reply #548 on: November 22, 2015, 08:58:44 pm »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/22/the-paris-attacks-appear-to-have-vaulted-donald-trump-higher-in-the-polls/?postshare=7601448221594231&tid=ss_tw

The Paris attacks have only made Donald Trump stronger

Not to unduly stress out Reince Priebus and the other members of the Republican establishment, but there are only 71 days until the Iowa caucuses, and only eight more days after that until New Hampshire. That's of now, Sunday, Nov. 22, a day on which a slew of new polls show that Donald Trump has improved his leads in both of those states and nationally.

Seventy-one days ago, the national Republican front-runner was ... Donald Trump, who led by 13.8 points in the Real Clear Politics polling average. Seventy-one days before that, though, the front-runner was Jeb Bush. If you add Bush's national polling average to that of the second-place candidate, Ben Carson, Trump would still be winning by two points.

This is something of a reversal. Here's the long-term trend of Trump's lead in both states and nationally.

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« Reply #549 on: November 23, 2015, 08:27:14 am »
Serbian starlets and star of "reality show" Stanija Dobrijević campaign for Donald Trump.  ::)

http://www.alo.rs/stanija-u-kampanji-donalda-trampa/3641http://

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« Reply #550 on: November 23, 2015, 11:12:46 am »
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/22/donald-trump-again-insists-he-saw-celebrations-in-new-jersey-on-sept-11/?_r=0
Donald Trump Again Insists He Saw Celebrations in New Jersey on Sept. 11


http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_alleged_9/11_hijackers=otherHijackers

A portion of Salem Alhazmi’s New Jersey identification card. [Source: 9/11 Commission] (click image to enlarge)

December 30, 2000: Three 9/11 Hijackers Possibly in Eastern US, Despite Official Claims to the Contrary
Documents obtained by Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, and Salem Alhazmi indicate that they are in the New Jersey / New York area at this time, although the cards may be later fakes. All three hijackers obtain USA ID cards whose expiry date is December 30, 2006
...
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot

All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;

March 2001-September 1, 2001: Hanjour and Other 9/11 Hijackers Live in Paterson, New Jersey

9/11 hijackers Hani Hanjour and Salem Alhazmi rent a one-room apartment in Paterson, New Jersey. Hanjour signs the lease. Hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi, Saeed Alghamdi, and Mohamed Atta are also seen coming and going by neighbors.
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot
 
All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;
bullet He opens another account with the same bank three days later, when Nawaf Alhazmi also opens one;
bullet Ahmed Alghamdi, Nawaf Alhazmi, and Majed Moqed open accounts with the Dime Savings Bank on July 9, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 18, 2001. He closes it on August 31;
bullet Salem Alhazmi opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 21, 2001;
bullet Abdulaziz Alomari opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 26, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the First Union National Bank on August 22, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He changes his contact address on September 5;
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with First Union National Bank on August 23, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He then attempts to withdraw $5,000 on September 5 and $4,900 from it on September 7, despite it containing nothing but the original $50. Unable to make the withdrawal, he cashes a $20 check instead. Hanjour closes the account the next day

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Of course there were also the Dancing Israelis  (probably Mossad agents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

Uploaded on Jan 5, 2007


Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know ... They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

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see: 9/11 Memorandum Commission Select Committees 2004 - Israeli Surveillance 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4
American Muslims celebrating 9/11
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On Anderson Cooper 360, a group called the "Revolution Islam" praise the Fort Hodd shooter Major. Malik Nadal Hasan.
They also love Osama bin laden, celebrate september 11, and are Muslims living in America.
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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #551 on: November 24, 2015, 07:22:12 pm »
"The Obama deception was one of the craftiest and cynical strategies ever cooked up by these guys (bankers). And now with Hillary vs The Donald, they've outdone themselves. They know the whole Hope thing has played out, so they're moving onto this epic WWF matchup as the ultimate distraction."

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #552 on: November 25, 2015, 10:42:18 am »
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151113-20151124/type/day

  Latest poll.  Holy cow.  Is the race over?



Possible Republican presidential candidates in 2016---Nov 24, 2015

  TRUMP---38%

  CRUZ---11.6

  CARSON---11.5

  RUBIO---8.2

  WOULDN'T VOTE---7.4

  BUSH---5.7

  HUCKABEE---3.2

  KASICH---3.0

  FIORINA---2.8

 





 


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« Reply #553 on: November 25, 2015, 05:24:11 pm »
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151113-20151124/type/day

  Latest poll.  Holy cow.  Is the race over?



Possible Republican presidential candidates in 2016---Nov 24, 2015

  TRUMP---38%

  CRUZ---11.6

  CARSON---11.5

  RUBIO---8.2

  WOULDN'T VOTE---7.4

  BUSH---5.7

  HUCKABEE---3.2

  KASICH---3.0

  FIORINA---2.8

 

You damn straight its over. Trump is more compromised then any of them and whats worse is that people think he isn't.
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".

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« Reply #554 on: November 25, 2015, 05:24:51 pm »
Trump will be our next President!  ;)
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« Reply #555 on: November 25, 2015, 05:45:38 pm »
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/22/donald-trump-again-insists-he-saw-celebrations-in-new-jersey-on-sept-11/?_r=0
Donald Trump Again Insists He Saw Celebrations in New Jersey on Sept. 11


http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_alleged_9/11_hijackers=otherHijackers

A portion of Salem Alhazmi’s New Jersey identification card. [Source: 9/11 Commission] (click image to enlarge)

December 30, 2000: Three 9/11 Hijackers Possibly in Eastern US, Despite Official Claims to the Contrary
Documents obtained by Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, and Salem Alhazmi indicate that they are in the New Jersey / New York area at this time, although the cards may be later fakes. All three hijackers obtain USA ID cards whose expiry date is December 30, 2006
...
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot

All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;

March 2001-September 1, 2001: Hanjour and Other 9/11 Hijackers Live in Paterson, New Jersey

9/11 hijackers Hani Hanjour and Salem Alhazmi rent a one-room apartment in Paterson, New Jersey. Hanjour signs the lease. Hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi, Saeed Alghamdi, and Mohamed Atta are also seen coming and going by neighbors.
...

June 27-August 23, 2001: Hijackers Open Bank Accounts in New Jersey, Information Sufficient to Roll Up Plot
 
All the hijackers based in New Jersey open at least one bank account there:
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on June 27, 2001;
bullet He opens another account with the same bank three days later, when Nawaf Alhazmi also opens one;
bullet Ahmed Alghamdi, Nawaf Alhazmi, and Majed Moqed open accounts with the Dime Savings Bank on July 9, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 18, 2001. He closes it on August 31;
bullet Salem Alhazmi opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 21, 2001;
bullet Abdulaziz Alomari opens an account with the Hudson United Bank on July 26, 2001;
bullet Khalid Almihdhar opens an account with the First Union National Bank on August 22, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He changes his contact address on September 5;
bullet Hani Hanjour opens an account with First Union National Bank on August 23, 2001 with a $50 deposit. He then attempts to withdraw $5,000 on September 5 and $4,900 from it on September 7, despite it containing nothing but the original $50. Unable to make the withdrawal, he cashes a $20 check instead. Hanjour closes the account the next day

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Of course there were also the Dancing Israelis  (probably Mossad agents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

Uploaded on Jan 5, 2007


Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know ... They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4
American Muslims celebrating 9/11
Uploaded on Nov 6, 2009
On Anderson Cooper 360, a group called the "Revolution Islam" praise the Fort Hodd shooter Major. Malik Nadal Hasan.
They also love Osama bin laden, celebrate september 11, and are Muslims living in America.



Interesting!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=154286.msg916252;topicseen#msg916252



Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #556 on: November 25, 2015, 05:50:45 pm »
Trump will be our next President!  ;)
http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-waterboarding-torture
Donald Trump Promises to Bring Back Waterboarding and Worse Torture: 'If It Doesn't Work, They Deserve It Anyway'

BY TIERNEY MCAFEE @tierneymcafee 11/24/2015 AT 04:15 PM EST
Donald Trump is doubling down on his promise to reinstate waterboarding as an accepted form of interrogation – and taking it one step further by saying he'd approve even worse torture.

"Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would – in a heartbeat," Trump said to cheers during a rally in Columbus, Ohio, Monday night, according to The Washington Post. "And I would approve more than that. Don't kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn't work."

Trump added that waterboarding – a controversial interrogation tactic that was banned by the Obama administration and classified by the United Nations as torture – is what's needed to deal with terrorists who "chop off our young people's heads" and "build these iron cages, and they'll put 20 people in them and they drop them in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull them up 15 minutes later."

"It works," Trump repeated of waterboarding. "Believe me, it works. And you know what? If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing."

Trump first vowed to bring back waterboarding on Sunday during an appearance on ABC's This Week, saying of ISIS, "I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us."

"What they're doing to us, what they did to James Foley when they chopped off his head, that's a whole different level and I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation," he added.

Trump's waterboarding remarks are the latest in a string of controversial comments he's made over the past few days.

On Saturday, he repeated his claim that he saw thousands of New Jersey Arabs cheering the collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11 – an urban myth police have said never happened.

On Sunday, he was branded racist after he tweeted a graphic with fake statistics about murders in the U.S. that depicted black people as the biggest perpetrators.

That same day, he suggested that the Black Lives Matter activist who was physically attacked when he disrupted the real estate mogul's speech at a campaign rally Saturday "should have been roughed up" because he was "so obnoxious and loud."


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Nevertheless, a new national poll from FOX News shows Trump has more support than ever from Republican primary voters.

But his latest antics are apparently the last straw for The Washington Post editorial board.

On Wednesday night, the board published a scathing post labeling Trump a "dangerous" and "narcissistic" "[bully] who [rose] to prominence by spreading lies, appealing to fears and stoking hatred."

The Post also called for Republicans to speak out against the GOP front-runner because "the only way to beat a bully is to stand up to him."

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #557 on: November 25, 2015, 09:06:29 pm »
Trump is saying and doing all the right things---and the others are in the OLD Play Book!

...Trump is NEW, and Smart, and this is what the USA needs at this point in history!

...Believe it /or/Not!
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« Reply #558 on: November 25, 2015, 09:45:33 pm »
Not.
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".

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Re: Donald Trump -- 2016
« Reply #559 on: November 26, 2015, 01:12:04 pm »


... Trump to RNC/Priebus: ... the attack ads better stop ... or else.


TRUMP DANGLES LAWYERS AT
RNC AMID ATTACK ADS

GOP front-runner warns 'bad, bad decision'
to allow campaign sabotage

CHERYL CHUMLEY

An attorney for Donald Trump sent a stern warning to the Republican National Committee via CNN broadcast, setting Reince Priebus on notice – along with those in the establishment wing of the party who are trying to take down the front-runner candidate – by saying the attacks better stop, or else.

Michael Cohen, one of Trump’s attorneys, referenced the pact Trump made with the RNC a few weeks to support the eventual Republican Party candidate, even if it weren’t him. But that agreement came with a caveat. As Cohen said, the terms were null and void if the RNC unleashed attack dogs on Trump.

“If they treat him fairly, he will honor the pledge because he’s an honorable guy,” Cohen said, CNN reported. “If they break that agreement with him, as they say: ‘woe be on them.’”

http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/trump-dangles-lawyers-at-rnc-amid-attack-ads/
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