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Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:55:42 am »

This should be interesting … will this
resonate throughout the internets
like the Piers Morgan interview?


Did Ayers write the Obama autobiography?

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 12:00:20 pm »
… I hope AJ doesn't throw up when Ayer's walks in …




Bill Ayers Has Ties to At Least Ten People in The White House Administration
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2015, 12:02:33 pm »
Kick his ass seabass!

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2015, 12:05:31 pm »


Photo of the guest …

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2015, 12:10:51 pm »


… Common (Communist) Core?

Too bad … I thought he was in studio.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 12:13:23 pm »

… Socialist Anarchy?

He's never heard Alex's show?    :o
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2015, 12:18:15 pm »
He doesn't know anything. Not a very good professor I guess  ;)

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 12:19:27 pm »

… dodge ball.   ;D


The Shared Agendas of George Soros and Barack Obama
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 12:27:30 pm »

… he's digging a hole for himself. He
can't just play dumb like this.


Terrorist Professor Bill Ayers and Obama’s Federal School Curriculum
http://www.aim.org/special-report/terrorist-professor-bill-ayers-and-obamas-federal-school-curriculum/

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Working behind the scenes, implementing these policies and writing the standards are associates from President Obama’s community organizing days. In de facto control of the education component is Linda Darling-Hammond, a radical left-wing educator and close colleague of William “Bill” Ayers, the former leader of the communist terrorist Weather Underground who became a professor of education and friend of Obama’s.

When these dangerous initiatives are implemented, there will be no escaping bad schools and a radical curriculum by moving to a good suburb, or by home schooling, or by enrolling your children in private schools.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 12:33:49 pm »
NEXT  i expect Bill Ayers will have a ice cream  cone in hand  !!!

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2015, 12:38:13 pm »
He just a little guy who knows nothing. He man I'm cool and relaxed. I don't know what you are talking about including the history of my own belief system.

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 12:39:01 pm »

"… I have no idea, blah, blah, blah."

Is he really THIS UNINFORMED?

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2015, 12:43:31 pm »
 He is one fine actor  very very slick !!!!   

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 12:49:30 pm »
 … never heard of Dreams of My Real Father?

He says, "I never dated Barack Obama."

He's comin' to Austin?   8)  Cooool...
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 12:56:47 pm »


… vino veritas.   :D
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 01:18:24 pm »
Bill Air Head and his catch all statements:

..."I don't know?"

..."What are you taking about?"

..."WHAT?"

..."I can't explain what I am because I have lied so often!"

..."I don't know: WHAT?"
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 01:59:39 pm »
Well that was revealing and amusing.

I hope AJ posts him a few books to read.  ;D
That is one man that sure needs an education !

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 02:36:14 pm »
Weather Undergrounder that served 22 year prison for murder now prof in columbia

Following in the footsteps of Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers, a domestic terrorist-turned respected academic thinker, former Weather Underground radical Kathy Boudin — who spent 22 years in prison for her involvement in an armored car robbery that left two cops and a Brinks guard dead — currently holds a prestigious adjunct professorship at Columbia University, the New York Post reports.

In addition to her new professorship at Columbia’s School of Social Work, Boudin, 69, also earned another academic achievement this year, being named the Sheinberg Scholar-in-Residence at NYU Law School. She reportedly gave a lecture on “the politics of parole and re-entry” at the university last month.
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It's interesting since this group seems to have been created to discredit and destroy the peace movement and young people involved in politics (except the in crowd like the clintons and Kerry's and Gore's!  - which they did...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Boudin
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Kathy Boudin was born on May 19, 1943, into a family with a Muslim mother and a 1/2 Jewish Father, with a long left-wing history, and she was raised in Greenwich Village, New York. Her great-uncle was Louis B. Boudin, a Marxist theorist. Her father, attorney Leonard Boudin, had represented such controversial clients as Judith Coplon, Fidel Castro, and Paul Robeson.[1] A National Lawyers Guild attorney, Leonard Boudin was the law partner of Victor Rabinowitz, himself counsel to numerous left-wing organizations.

Kathy’s older brother, Michael Boudin, is currently a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit. She is journalist I.F. Stone's niece
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Although she went to Bryn Mawr College intending to prepare for medical school, her interests quickly turned to politics. 1965, her last year at Bryn Mawr was spent studying in the Soviet Union. She was paid 75 rubles a month by the Soviet government and, according to her résumé, taught on a Soviet collective farm. Kathy Boudin also attended receptions and functions with her parents at the Cuban Mission to the United Nations in New York. She also attended Case Western Reserve University School of Law for one year
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In the 1960s and 1970s, Boudin became heavily involved with the Weather Underground. The Weathermen bombed the Pentagon, the US Capitol, the New York Police Benevolent Association, the New York Board of Corrections, as well as the offices of multinational companies. Boudin, along with Cathy Wilkerson, was a survivor of the 1970 Greenwich Village townhouse explosion, the premature detonation of a nail bomb that had been intended for a soldiers' dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.[2] Boudin was 27 at the time. Both women were awaiting trial, out on bond for their alleged actions in Days of Rage in Chicago several months earlier. Wilkerson had been released on a $20,000 bond and Boudin was out on a $40,000 bond.
 
A declassified FBI report on foreign contacts of the Weather Underground Organization produced by the FBI’s Chicago Field Office reported that, "On February 10, 1976, a source in a position to possess such information advised that Leonard Boudin ... had indicated to a friend that Kathie [sic] was presently in Cuba."[citation needed] The law firm of Rabinowitz, Boudin, Standard, Krinsky & Lieberman, P.C., provide legal representation for the Cuban government in the United States
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
Larry Grathwohl on Ayers' plan for American re-education camps and the need to kill millions
Uploaded on Oct 29, 2008

In 1969, Weather Underground founders Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (who were to become Pres. Obama's personal friends and associates for many years) put Charles Manson on the cover of their occasional newspaper, "Fire". At what was billed as a "War Council" in Flint Michigan that same year, Ayers and his comrades took to greeting eachother with "the fork" - three fingers pointed upwards, in honor of Manson. (Google Dohrn's Flint conference quote on Manson - and Sharon Tate, who was 8 1/2 months pregnant at the time.) In 1972 Ayers dedicated the WU's manifesto, "Prairie Fire", to his cultural and political heroes -- a list which included Sen. Robert Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan.

Throughout their career as terrorist bombers, Ayers and Dohrn were constantly trying to break the Left free of its "bourgeois" commitment to any standard of justice or decency. By adopting Charles Manson as their own, by praising Manson as a hero of the counterculture, they hoped to smash the Left's "bourgeois" ties to civilization and thus spark similar acts of horrific "revolutionary" violence against innocent people.

Over 400 people attended that Flint conference. Can't help but wonder what positions they have now, unknown to anyone but each other...


[ Much sanitized Weathermen documentary: ]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343168/
The Weather Underground (2002)
 92 min  -  Documentary | History | War  -   13 November 2003 (Australia)



Bernardine Dohrn Herself (also archive footage)
Mark Rudd Himself (also archive footage)
Brian Flanagan  Himself (also archive footage)
David Gilbert Himself (also archive footage)
Billy Ayers Himself (also archive footage) (as Bill Ayers) (as Bill Ayers)
Naomi Jaffe Herself (also archive footage)
Todd Gitlin Himself
Laura Whitehorn Herself (also archive footage)
Don Strickland Himself
Kathleen Cleaver Herself (also archive footage)

Also interesting:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKlearyT.htm

On several occasions Millbrook was raided by FBI agents. This included one raid led by G. Gordon Liddy.
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In 1965 Leary's daughter was arrested carrying marijuana while crossing the Mexican border. Leary took responsibility for his daughter having the drug and he was later convicted of possession under the Marijuana Tax Act and was sentenced to 30 years in jail. In 1969 the Marijuana Tax was declared unconstitutional and Leary's conviction was quashed.

The following year Leary was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana. Found guilty, he was sentenced to prison. However, with the help of the Weathermen, he escaped from prison. Leary and his wife to move to Algeria where he spent time with Black Panther leader, Eldridge Cleaver. Later the couple went to live in Switzerland.

Richard Nixon described Leary as the "most dangerous man in America" and ordered G. Gordon Liddy to destroy him.

In 1974 he was illegally kidnapped by Interpol agents in Kabul and transported to the United States. (At the time Afghanistan had no extradition treaty with the United States.) Leary was eventually released from prison in April, 1976.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 03:40:40 pm »
Bill Ayers sounds like Shultz at Nuremburg trials  -
Ayers says he's not a commie and Obama is a middle of the road politician ,,,
He doesn't know Soros or who he is ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
I Know Nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
I See Nothing - Sgt Schultz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp9BJxFHDYI
Schultz knows nothing, sees nothing!

http://suzyrice.com/2011/03/finally-bill-ayers-ego-explodes/
FINALLY: BILL AYERS’ EGO EXPLODES
Mar 26th, 2011 by SER.

Bill Ayers really wants you to record his misinformation, his handy-dandy doofus crazy-clown creepiness.

Or, think this first: never pick-up a venomous snake, regardless of how short it is. Expand that caution: never pick-up venomous snakes regardless if they are short or tall.


…Ayers declared to the National Journal reporter, “Yes, I wrote ‘Dreams from My Father.'”

“Here’s what I’m going to say,” Ayers said according to a report in Talking Points Memo. “This is my quote. Be sure to write it down: ‘Yes, I wrote ‘Dreams from My Father.’ I ghostwrote the whole thing. I met with the president three or four times, and then I wrote the entire book.”

TPM reported that Ayers then released the National Journal reporter’s arm, beamed “in Marxist triumph,” and said, “And now I would like the royalties.”
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But, from the swamp of Communist Chicago comes this ooze of mental, spiritual and political instability that continues to infect these United States of America.

I realize these are harsh words. Consider them harsh words for, or, rather, about a harsh individual: Bill Ayers, who cannot contain his ongoing, deranged need to upset, lie, cheat, mislead, destroy and denigrate human society, especially when it’s American and especially when he can ridicule security, information, truth, trust — he wants you to worry that he is there, that this poses a problem, and then he relies on you assuming more reasonable perspectives, that he isn’t really there because he just couldn’t really be.

But he is and that’s his idea of a joke, right before he destroys the dreams. Think of the monster under the bed who the children fear and you caution them isn’t real: the monster, in this case, is real and he is under the bed of our nation.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 04:18:28 pm »
For your amusement

SHOCK CONFESSION: Bill Ayers Reveals He Is Author Of “Dreams From My Father” in Latest Book
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/jack-cashill-vindicated-bill-ayers-book-promotion-event-announces/



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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2015, 05:58:51 pm »
For Bill Ayers , As a dedicated Commie - lying to people is just part of the job ....

http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/
William Ayers' forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire
posted: October 22, 2008
 
William Ayers is a communist. But don't take my word for it. He said so himself:



 And not some nicey-nice peace-and-love kind of communist. Through his group the Weather Underground, Ayers was planning to "seize power" in a violent communist takeover of the United States:


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So far in 2008, there has been almost no mention of this manifesto and its insurrectionary goals. It seems as if the media, William Ayers, Barack Obama and his supporters don't want you to know about Prairie Fire. Which is exactly why you need to see it.

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Furthermore: Obama and his supporters at first claimed he barely knew who Ayers was, but when public awareness of the connections between Obama and Ayers became too numerous and too strong to deny, Obama's supporters have now begun resorting to a fallback position: that William Ayers wasn't such a bad guy after all, and that it is no shame to be associated with him. The now-standard talking points are:

• Ayers was simply protesting against the Vietnam War, and a lot of people protested against the Vietnam War back then, so there's no shame in that.

• Ayers was never actually convicted of setting any bombs or killing anyone, so there's no real proof that he ever did anything wrong.

• Ayers is now a respected, mainstream, mild-mannered and popular professor, so obviously his political views couldn't have been that extreme.

This essay disproves all of these claims. The text that William Ayers authored in Prairie Fire, and the additional documentary links provided below, prove that:

Ayers was not simply protesting "against" the Vietnam War. Firstly, he wasn't against war in principle, he was agitating for the victory of the communist forces in Vietnam.

In other words: He wasn't against the war, he was against our side in the war. This is spelled out in great detail in Prairie Fire. Secondly, and more significantly, the Vietnam War was only one of many issues cited by the Weather Undergound as the justifications for their violent acts. As you will see below, in various quotes from Prairie Fire and in their own list of their violent actions (and in additional impartial documentary links), Ayers and the Weather Underground enumerated dozens of different grievances as the rationales for their bombings -- their overarching goal being to inspire a violent mass uprising against the United States government in order to establish a communist "dictatorship of the proletariat," in Ayers' own words.

• Ayers and his co-authors freely brag about their bombings and other violent and illegal acts, and even provide a detailed list, most likely typed up by Ayers himself, of the crimes they had committed up to that point.

Ayers' list, scanned directly from Prairie Fire, is shown below. He may have escaped conviction due to a legal technicality (the prosecutors failed to get a warrant during some of their surveillance of the Weather Underground), but this in no way means that Ayers was factually innocent of the crimes. As has been widely reported, after the case against him was dropped, Ayers decribed himself as "guilty as hell, free as a bird."

• Just because Ayers tries to appear respectable now doesn't mean that he wasn't a violent revolutionary in the past.

In fact, as the text of Prairie Fire shows, Ayers was one of the most extreme extremists in American political history. And as the links given as the end of this essay will prove, Ayers is just as politically radical now as he was back then. He has never renounced the political views he professed in the 1960s and 1970s. The only difference is that now he no longer commits violence to achieve his goals. After his stint as the leader of the Weather Underground, he shifted to a different tactic: to spread his ideology under the aegis of academia. But the goal remains the same: to turn America into a communist nation. Ayers' contemporary writings contain many of the same ideas (and even the same phrases) found in Prairie Fire, just toned down to make them more palatable in polite society.

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For the record, and just to be complete, here are links documenting some of Obama's many connections to William Ayers:

• Ayers and Obama worked together for years on a school reform program called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
• Ayers and Obama also served together on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a separate charity organization.
• Obama had his political coming-out party in William Ayers' home.
• Ayers mentions Obama by name in a book he wrote in 1997, and mentions that the two are very close neighbors.
• Obama gave a short glowing review of that same Ayers book for the Chicago Tribune.
• Obama and Ayers were both presenters together on a panel about juvenile justice (organized by Michelle Obama).
• Both Obama and Ayers were close friends with the same person, Rashid Kalidi.


• There are also several unverified rumors swirling around that have not been documented: That Ayers may have helped to write part (or all) of Obama's autobiography; that Obama and Ayers shared an office space together for three years, on the same floor of the same building in Chicago; and that Ayers and Obama may have known each other as far back as 1981.

Authorship of Prairie Fire

 How do we know that William Ayers himself co-authored Prairie Fire? Doesn't the cover say it's by The Weather Underground as a group, and doesn't mention him specifically?

 Well, it's simple enough to prove. Because in the introduction, the four actual authors sign their names -- Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Billy Ayers, and Celia Sojourn:

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2015, 06:16:04 pm »
Dang, I wish Alex had all that info at his finger tips at this interview/debate.
I was very disappointed on how Alex handle him.
Alex was not on top of his game, dang it.
He also got mad, which didn't help.
Anyway I was wonder if Bill Ayers has been living under a rock; it didn't seem that he knew anything, or else he trying to stay deliberately out of the loop of who's who.
I think Bill came off somewhat creditable even though I know he is not, dang.
Alex did not score well, I felt that Alex was caught off guard.
Love ya anyway Alex.

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2015, 07:46:27 pm »
Wow found Prairie Fire is on Archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/sds_papers'

PDFs of The Port Huron Statement, and the WeatherUnderground's Position Paper 'Prairie Fire' in 3 parts.

https://archive.org/download/sds_papers/Prairie-fire-part01.pdf
https://archive.org/download/sds_papers/Prairie-fire-part02.pdf
https://archive.org/download/sds_papers/Prairie-fire-part03.pdf


Wasn't the "star" a Che  commie star? and in the interview bill denies any association ...
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2015, 08:07:56 pm »
 ^ ^ ^

Great work on this thread TahoeBlue … proves what a liar he is.

And Jacob Law … I thought AJ gave him a free pass on some points, too …
like a Get Out of Jail Free Card. But, Ayers was playing dumb … and
not acknowledging his role with Obama et al.

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2015, 08:39:17 am »
I am a daily podcast listener. Alex Jones' interview was disgraceful and he got owned by Ayers.  The people on this thread need to listen to the interview without prejudice. HOW CAN YOU SAY AYERS KNOWS NOTHING?  Ayers said common core is a national disgrace dumbing down the kids, Dems and Republicans are equally sinister, the war on terror is a joke enriching the military industrial complex, Wall Street runs both major political parties, Hillary is a crony hack, Obama is a weak-kneed politican, etc.  If Alex had approached the interview with a more objective attitude, he would have heard common ground.  If you only want to converse with people that you agree with 100% on every topic,  then your conversations will be monologues.

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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2015, 08:59:38 am »
I am a daily podcast listener. Alex Jones' interview was disgraceful and he got owned by Ayers.  The people on this thread need to listen to the interview without prejudice. HOW CAN YOU SAY AYERS KNOWS NOTHING?  Ayers said common core is a national disgrace dumbing down the kids, Dems and Republicans are equally sinister, the war on terror is a joke enriching the military industrial complex, Wall Street runs both major political parties, Hillary is a crony hack, Obama is a weak-kneed politican, etc.  If Alex had approached the interview with a more objective attitude, he would have heard common ground.  If you only want to converse with people that you agree with 100% on every topic,  then your conversations will be monologues.


Welcome to the forum BTW … great first post .   :D

Alex was very friendly and polite and forgiving … at least much more
so than many expected. They did end the conversation with a promise
to get together persoanally … to perhaps find common ground. We were
just astonished that Ayers seems so uninformed … he doesn't know who
Alex Jones IS? Has never listened to his show? Never heard of Quigley?
Is against Common Core? He is NOT an old school '60s-style Communist?
Not connected with Obama administration … never heard of the very book
Dreams of My Real Father that debunks the book he is rumored to have
authored/edited Dreams of My Father? Isn't aware of the Soros connection
to far left Lib agenda?

I believe AJ was non-plussed by Ayer's unwillingness to embrace his legacy.
He even dodges simple straight-forward questions about his violent past.
It would be VERY nice if he has 'changed his ways' and can ACTUALLY support
the libertarian cause. But I must say again … he seems out of the loop
and uninformed.

He asked Alex if he was more "Rand Paul" or "John McCain".   ;D

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2015, 09:25:52 am »
In my view it was an "ok" interview (not all that bad, but all that great, either).

Bill Ayers is shady character, to say the least. Nevertheless it doesn't make for very constructive dialogue to repeatedly invoke an emotionally-loaded term like "commie" the way apologists for the official story on 9/11 repeatedly invoke the term "conspiracy theorist."

Why just call somebody something over and over again when, through calm, measured, Socrates-style dialogue you can essentially get them to admit to being what you firmly believe they are?

Paul Joseph Watson would probably have been a better choice to conduct this particular interview.

That's my take, for whatever it's worth.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2015, 09:36:13 am »
^ ^ ^

… good points. I believe he finally said he was 'socialist anarchist' … ?
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2015, 09:41:58 am »
I believe he finally said he was 'socialist anarchist' … ?

I don't how truthful he was being, but if that's indeed what he is, then it might help to understand more clearly the difference between that and other left-wing ideologies:

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2015, 10:00:51 am »
Anarchists have always argued that real socialism cannot be created using a state. The basic core of the argument is simple. Socialism implies equality, yet the state signifies inequality - inequality in terms of power.

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2015, 10:28:05 am »
Alex Jones was made to look like a boy in short pants trying to sit at the grown-up table.  You could almost hear Ayers whispering "Go get your _______ shine box Alex!" in his best 'Goodfellas' accent.  Alex resorted to ad hom attacks at the end calling Ayers a "commie" the same way people with no facts or credible position call us "conspiracy nuts". I agree with the fellow above who said Watson would have been better for this interview.

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2015, 10:46:39 am »
All I can say is read the book ,,, Ayers was a founder of the SDS and Weather Underground ,,, He is a communist of the worst stripe. These people were probably paid by the CIA to break up the Vietnam peace movement and radicalize it OK? I LIVED THRU THIS CRAP.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
Larry Grathwohl on Ayers' plan for American re-education camps  and the need to kill millions 
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Oh and Larry's dead now OK?

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Larry David Grathwohl (October 13, 1947– July 18, 2013)[1] was a United States Army veteran and an FBI informant during the 1970s. He is best known as the informant who infiltrated the Weather Underground, a radical political organization in the United States. His exploits were documented in the 1976 book, Bringing Down America,[2] where he exposed the inner workings of the Weather Underground and the personal activities of many of its members, including Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. He died, aged 65, in his Cincinnati apartment on July 18, 2013 apparently of natural causes.[3]

see: http://bringingdownamerica.com/
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But we’re also disappointed by the lies Fox News’ Megyn Kelly allowed Bill Ayers to spout about Larry and other issues on her recent, highly-promoted “celebrity interview” with Ayers.

We are grateful to everyone who is helping us correct the record about the real reign of bombings, murder, and attempted murder committed by Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Judge Eleanor Raskin (neé Stein), Mark Rudd, and the other assorted criminals of the Weather Underground.

Bringing Down America: An FBI Informer with the Weathermen [Kindle Edition]
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2015, 11:09:16 am »
The impression that stuck with from the interview was how little Bill Ayers really knows . . .
Like he has been so busy in his little bubble wearing his blinkers, he really has missed out on the bigger picture.

For example : It struck me that he really, really had not heard of Tragedy & Hope or Carroll Quigley.

I'm not talking about when he was being slippery and evasive, but when he genuinely had never heard of things. If he is a co-conspirator, its not just the public they keep miss informed and in the dark, its there own top operatives.

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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2015, 11:35:23 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8apP1IxVUUc
Communists on Campus: The Weather Underground

Published on Mar 25, 2013


The Weather Underground Organization (WUO), commonly known as the Weather Underground, was an American radical left organization founded on the Ann Arbor campus of the University of Michigan. Originally called Weatherman, the group became known colloquially as the Weathermen. Weatherman first organized in 1969 as a faction of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) composed for the most part of the national office leadership of SDS and their supporters. Their goal was to create a clandestine revolutionary party for the overthrow of the US government.

With revolutionary positions characterized by Black liberation rhetoric,[2] the group conducted a campaign of bombings through the mid-1970s, including aiding the jailbreak and escape of Timothy Leary. The "Days of Rage", their first public demonstration on October 8, 1969, was a riot in Chicago timed to coincide with the trial of the Chicago Seven. In 1970 the group issued a "Declaration of a State of War" against the United States government, under the name "Weather Underground Organization" (WUO).[4]

The bombing attacks mostly targeted government buildings, along with several banks. Most were preceded by evacuation warnings, along with communiqués identifying the particular matter that the attack was intended to protest. No persons were killed in any of their acts of property destruction, although three members of the group were killed in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a communiqué saying it was "in protest of the U.S. invasion of Laos". For the bombing of the Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the U.S. bombing raid in Hanoi". For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the United States Department of State building, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam".[4]

The Weathermen grew out of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) faction of SDS. It took its name from the lyric "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", from the Bob Dylan song "Subterranean Homesick Blues". You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows was the title of a position paper they distributed at an SDS convention in Chicago on June 18, 1969. This founding document called for a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other radical movements[5] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and achieve a classless world: world communism".[6]

The Weathermen disintegrated after the United States reached a peace accord in Vietnam in 1973, after which the New Left declined.

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Days of Rage 1969

The October 1969 events in Chicago organized by the militant anti-war group the Weathermen (later, "Weather Underground") that were meant to "bring the war home" in a series of violent confrontations with police and damage to property. One of the leaders of the Weathermen was Bill Ayers, whose association with Barack Obama became an issue in the 2008 presidential campaign. This segment appeared on Chicago Tonight, on the Chicago PBS station WTTW. It includes an interview with Ayers, as well as with anti-war activists who opposed the violent tactics of the Weathermen. Also interviewed was Judge Richard Elrod, who was left paralyzed after a confrontation with a protester.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2015, 12:10:19 pm »
All I can say is read the book ,,, Ayers was a founder of the SDS and Weather Underground

I first learned about Ayers from Webster Tarpley -- who had nothing kind to say about him -- in his Unauthorized Biography of Obama (published in 2008).

He lived through this stuff as well.

As far as I can tell no one is defending Ayers, just expressing reservations about the particular style in which he was interviewed, that's all.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2015, 12:19:39 pm »


… well, AJ has said on the show today that this interview
was 'just the beginning', that more was being prepared for release
about what Ayers had to say … and he seems a little upset. He
has brought it up several times already.


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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2015, 01:02:27 pm »
It is my opinion this was a CIA op to destroy the Vietnam Peace movement
Which is why,  as a forever protected creature , Ayers is still around


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfdJ3FiSva4
Weather Underground Announces Fall Offensive - 1970
October 1970 - Bernardine Dohrn announces a "fall offensive of youth resistance." Two days later three cities were bombed on the west coast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQsYzBlXK6M
Connie Chung Interviews Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2015, 01:08:39 pm »


"A community organizer is a poverty pimp, a cynical opportunist who exploits suffering people.  Obama's foundation strategy is divide and conquer, pitting blacks and against whites, etc., to preserve Wall Street rule.  Racist provocateurs like Wright and Pfleger, and Weatherman terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn are Obama's best friends. Rezko, Auchi, and Al-Sammarae typify Obama's cesspool of Chicago graft. Schooled in Nietzsche and Fanon, Obama qualifies as a postmodern fascist. An Obama administration means brutal economic sacrifice to finance Wall Street bailouts, and imperialist confrontation with Russia and China."



If there's a follow-up interview, I hope, in advance of this, Alex will consider reading the entire chapter Webster devoted to "Ayers and Dohrn" in the above book.

I know it's fun to throw labels around, but I think documented facts tend to be more effective at exposing controlled-opposition (be they of the left-wing or right-wing variety).
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2015, 02:14:51 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf4NAbNmaSs
Bill Ayers and Jeff Jones Speak at SDS Press Conference - June 23 1969

"We will build a revolutionary youth movement capable of actively engaging in the war against the imperialists. We will escalate our attacks until imperialism is defeated in Vietnam."
William Ayers, June 23, 1969


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More Deadly Than War: The Communist Revolution in America

This address by G. Edward Griffin, given in 1969
, is as current as today's headlines. Mr. Griffin shows that the Leninist strategy for conquest involves two kinds of revolution. One is violent. The other is non-violent. While most people think only of violent revolution, the non-violent phase is where most of the action has been in the United States.

Leninists call it the "Proletarian Revolution" and involves the gradual transition to Marxism (which is merely one form of collectivism) by use of the ballot box. Control is achieved through economic pressures rather than guns and executions.

Learn how today's Leninists utilize mass-membership organizations (i.e. Occupy Wall Street), politicians, and parliamentary process to brings about totalitarianism with little opposition from those who are being subjugated.
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Re: Alex Jones vs Bill Ayers
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2015, 04:09:14 pm »
I couldn't listen to the whole interview.  It just made me so mad with the evasions.  Ayers acted like he just woke up from a coma after 40 years. 

He is pretty slick though.  No way he was admitting to anything--even if you asked him if the sky was blue.  That's why I turned it off.

Ayers did not want to debate.  He just wanted to evade.  Unfortunately a sheeple that was not saavy to his history would think that Ayers was a decent guy and was misrepresented by wackos, when nothing could be further from the truth. 

It will be interesting to see what Alex can dig up on him--hopefully in his own words.