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Mattis: U.S. ‘Still Assessing the Intelligence’
« Reply #721 on: April 12, 2018, 09:51:29 am »

The defense secretary said the U.S. military is ready for all options President Trump deems ‘appropriate.’

Secretary of Defense James Mattis has split time throughout yesterday between the Pentagon and the White House, meeting both with his Dutch counterpart, Ank Bijeveld, and President Donald Trump.

At the onset of his meeting with the former, he was asked about the latter’s assertion that Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad was responsible for the alleged chemical attack over the weekend in Douma. One reporter asked what evidence Washington has to make the assertion.

In response, Mattis said:

“We're still assessing the—the intelligence ourselves, and our allies. We're still working on this.”

The retired Marine Corps general also said the U.S. military is ready for “all options” the president may deep “appropriate.”

Mattis left the White House following a meeting with the president, but no readout has yet been provided. During the press briefing, however, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said repeatedly that “all options” remain on the table.

Pressed further, she said she couldn’t “go into the details” about the intelligence but said the White House has high confidence in the assertions the president made earlier in the day.

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New Potential War Zone Flares Up
« Reply #722 on: April 12, 2018, 08:49:21 pm »

China has staged a major naval exercise in the South China Sea following its annual Boao Forum economic conference.

With most of the world’s attention focused on the potential for war in Syria, China reminded everyone that it still has eyes on seizing Taiwan.

Immediately following the Boao Forum, China’s version of Davos, the People’s Liberation Army Navy began a three-day military combat drill in the waters off Hainan Island, upon which the tropical resort of Boao is located. Hianan is located on the South China Sea, not far from the disputed islands there.

The drill, which is set to conclude tomorrow, had been previously announced by the Chinese government. It involved the Liaoning, PLAN’s only aircraft carrier, and 40 other warships and submarines.

The state-run English-language newspaper Global Times explained the purpose of the drill:

“Beijing cannot be led by the nose. We have to figure out more fronts to showcase our strength and to be the venue for the battle with Taiwan.

“Meanwhile, the mainland needs to continue to prepare for a possible military clash across the Straits. A military showdown with Taiwan is becoming more probable and may take place sooner rather than later. Beijing needs to make clear its bottom line and inform Taiwan society of the dangerous acts which may lead to a military showdown, to avoid a war that could break out due to serious misjudgments by the US and Taiwan. Having got the upper hand strategically, the mainland won’t lose its head. Only the decisions of the mainland will count in deciding the future cross-Straits situation.”

China also recently conducted aerial combat exercises in the western part of its mainland territory to simulate an invasion of Taiwan. Also Tuesday, the USS Theodore Roosevelt carrier task force sailed through the disputed waters of the South China Sea en route to the Philippines.

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When Will Russia And Iran Retaliate For The Attack On Syria? (TruNews)
« Reply #723 on: April 17, 2018, 10:40:28 pm »

Today we discuss President Trump's horrendous decision to use the West's Fake, False Flag chemical attack in Duoma as justification for a joint-US, UK and French military strike on Syria, an action historians may very well mark as the official beginning of World War 3.

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Will Iran Attack Israel This Week? (TruNews)
« Reply #724 on: April 17, 2018, 10:43:10 pm »
Today we discuss the showdown brewing in Syria between Tehran and Tel Aviv, as the Trump administration’s fresh roster of neocons conspire to launch a new invasion of Syria with a joint Saudi, Qatari, Emirati, and Egyptian arab army.

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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #725 on: April 18, 2018, 11:32:37 am »
Sephardic Jews Right of Return to Spain and Portugul - Conversos - Marranos

just as an aside the last time the Jews came to spain , it was as communists in the spanish civil war ...
The "republican" communists ,,, murdered priests and raped nuns ,,, burned churches .,..
these people ended up fleeing to France ...  Stalin in the thirties was in the process of de-Zion-izing the soviet system and history 

Also why Syria looks like the Spanish Civil war @! 


http://www.cjnews.com/culture/jewish-learning/jewish-fighters-spanish-civil-war
The Jewish fighters of the Spanish Civil War
By Henry Srebrnik - July 25, 2016


The International Brigade during the Spanish Civil War WIKI COMMONS PHOTO
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[ both sides were ANTI CHRIST > ]

Troops from Spanish Morocco, known as Moors, played a significant role in the war. About 136,000 fought for Franco’s Army of Africa, the feared vanguard of a force that Franco portrayed as a Christian crusade against “godless communists.” It is more than a little ironic that the side claiming to represent Roman Catholic Spain employed Muslim troops, the very descendants of the people expelled from the Iberian Peninsula during the lengthy Reconquista that regained the country from the sultans who had ruled Spain for almost 800 years.

The Moors were known to be especially formidable. Former Moorish soldiers recalled the terror they inflicted on Spanish villagers on behalf of Franco. “We spared nothing and no one,” one recounted. “We uprooted everything and killed everyone we encountered… Horrified Spaniards attempted to flee as soon as they heard the words of our prayer.”


https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features/the-jews-of-the-spanish-civil-war-a-forgotten-story-1.60438
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During the course of the conflict, some 41,000 volunteers from 50 countries joined them in what has been described as ‘the first battle of the Second World War’. Between 6,000 to 8,000 of the recruits to the International Brigades are estimated to have been Jewish, including nearly half of the Poles who went to Spain, over one-third of the Americans, and around 20 per cent of the Britons.

Jews did not only constitute a disproportionate number of the foreign fighters in Spain. It is estimated that 70 per cent of the medical personnel who volunteered to tend the injured were Jewish, with Yiddish often used in operating theatres as a common language.

In some respects, their story is a forgotten one. As military historian Martin Sugarman has argued, ‘the marginalisation of the huge part played by the Jewish fighters in Spain is due to the tight grip held by old-fashioned Stalinists who have been “Keepers of the Memory” of the International Brigades’. In the wake of the 1967 war Poland’s communist government went so far as to destroy memorials to the Botwin Company, a Jewish unit formed in December 1937. Part of the Polish Dombrowski Brigade, it was named in honour of Naftali Botwin, an 18-year-old Polish Jewish communist executed for murdering a secret police informant. Thus the communists’ fierce anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism trumped the reputation for heroism, encapsulated by the nickname ‘the red devils’, earned by the Botwin men.
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Even for those Jews who were committed communists, the brutality of Stalin’s henchmen in the Brigades was enough to shake the faith of many. Born William Horvitz, the novelist William Herrick was a self-declared ‘red-diaper baby’. His parents – who had fled Tsarist Russia – were members of the American Communist party who hung pictures of Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky in their home. Their son was active in the Young Pioneers and later risked his life trying to organise black sharecroppers in the Deep South. Unsurprisingly, Herrick was among the first 100 US recruits to heed the party’s call to fight in Spain
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For others, reality dawned more slowly. Moishe Stern, a Ukranian Jew who was an operative in Soviet military intelligence, arrived in Spain in September 1936 using a forged Canadian passport, adopted the name Emilio Kléber and became second-in-command to the International Brigade’s communist commander André Marty. Initially feted in Soviet propaganda as the ‘Saviour of Madrid’ for his role in leading the XI International Brigade’s effort to save the Spanish capital from a Nationalist assault in November 1936,

Kléber later fell foul of the jealousies and paranoia which wracked the Brigades’ upper ranks. Stripped of his command following later military setbacks – in truth, argues Anthony Beevor, he never ‘exceeded the level of a tough First World War commander who was unsparing with the lives of his men’ – Kléber was sentenced to 15 years hard labour. His name removed from Soviet histories of the civil war, he died in a Soviet gulag a year after Stalin’s death.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_volunteers_in_the_Spanish_Civil_War

Jewish volunteers in the Spanish Civil War refers to Jews who joined International Brigades and fought in the Spanish Civil War, which erupted on July 17, 1936 and ended on April 1, 1939.
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The fighting was between the Republicans, who were loyal to the Spanish Republic, and the Nationalists, a rebel group led by General Francisco Franco.
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... the Soviet Union and Mexico intervened in support of the Republican side
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A minority of the Jewish population, particularly that of Europe, were active in socialist and Communist organisations in the period between the two World Wars.[1][page needed]

They made up a considerable portion of the socialist volunteers, with estimates putting the figure at over ten per cent.[2] Many of them joined the International Brigades and the Popular Front to fight in the Spanish Civil War on the side of the Republicans. The leadership of the International Brigades considered forming an entirely Jewish brigade,[3] but the high casualties made this impossible. However, a Jewish company, the Naftali Botwin Company, was formed within the Palafox Battalion.


https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10008214
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—The fighting displaced millions of Spaniards. Some 500,000 refugees fled in 1939 to France, where many of them would be interned in camps. 15,000 Spanish Republicans ended up in Nazi concentration camps after 1940.

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Outside Aid and Non-Intervention

Within days of the uprising, both the Republic and the Nationalists called for foreign military aid. Initially, France pledged to support the Spanish Republic, but soon reneged on its offer to pursue an official policy of non-intervention in the civil war. Great Britain immediately rejected the Republic's call for support.
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Mass Violence

The Spanish Civil War engendered massive political violence, carried out by both sides on the battlefield and on city streets. The Nationalists included ultra-reactionary monarchists (Carlists), fascists (Falangists) as well as traditional conservatives, who viewed the Republic's supporters as “godless Bolsheviks” (Communists) who needed to be eradicated in order to create a new Spain. Franco's army also included Moorish troops from Morocco. The rebels portrayed the fighting as a “crusade,” a “holy war,” against a “Judeo-Masonic-Bolshevist” conspiracy. Antisemitic propaganda, including the notorious fictional work, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, circulated throughout the Nationalist-held territories. The Nationalists also tried to combat Basque and Catalan nationalism, which was perceived as a threat to national unity.

The Republican forces (Loyalists) too included a broad spectrum of political positions from moderate democrats, liberals, and socialists to more radical Leftists, such as Communists (both of the Stalinist and Trotskyist varieties) and Anarchists. On occasions, this coalition broke down into internecine violence.

The Spanish Civil War proved to be a breeding ground for mass atrocities, carried out by belligerents eager to eradicate their ideological opponents. About 500,000 people lost their lives in the conflict. Of these, about 200,000 died as the result of systematic killings, mob violence, torture, or other brutalities.
Anarchists and other radicals often took out their anger against the Catholic clergy, whom they saw as an obstacle to major reform. Almost 7,000 Catholic priests, monks, and nuns were killed, primarily in the first months of the revolt. By May 1937, most of the mass killings of priests by Leftist radicals subsided. Francoist forces too killed liberal-minded or Loyalist clergy.

The Nationalists waged a brutal war against the Republic's supporters. Republican women were raped or were publicly humiliated by having their heads shaved. By 1940, more than 500,000 individuals were rounded up and sent to about 60 concentration camps. Large numbers of prisoners were conscripted for forced labor or to fight in Franco's army or tried by military courts.

During the war itself, 100,000 persons were executed by the Nationalists; after the war ended in spring 1939, another 50,000 were put to death. Martial law remained in place in Franco's Spain until 1948, and former Republicans were subjected to various forms of discrimination and punishment.

Internal Displacement and Spanish Refugees


The fighting and persecution resulted in several million Spaniards being displaced. Many fled areas of violence for safe refuge elsewhere. Only a few countries, such as Mexico and the Dominican Republic, opened their doors to Spanish refugees. When the Civil War ended in 1939, with Franco's victory, some 500,000 Spanish Republicans escaped to France, where many were placed in internment camps in the south, such as Gurs, St. Cyprien, and Les Milles. Following the German defeat of France in spring 1940, Nazi authorities conscripted Spanish Republicans for forced labor and deported more than 30,000 to Germany, where about half of them ended up in concentration camps. Some 7,000 of these became prisoners in Mauthausen; more than half of them died in the camp.
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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #726 on: May 10, 2018, 02:01:01 pm »
MSM very quiet ...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/10/israels-takedown-iranian-targets-in-syria-proves-military-compared-to-tehrans-packs-powerful-punch.html
Israel's takedown of Iranian targets in Syria proves military, compared to Tehran's, packs a powerful punch
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By Greg Norman | Fox News

Israel strikes Iranian targets in Syria

Israel fires missiles at Iranian targets in Syria following Iran's first direct rocket attack on Israeli soldiers.
The conflict comes two days following Trump's exit from nuclear deal.


Israel's unprecedented Thursday counter-strike on Iranian infrastructure in Syria, following the Islamic Republic's own brazen rocket attack on Israeli military positions, brought the war-making capabilities of both Middle Eastern countries into stark relief as already simmering tensions begin to reach a boil.

The pre-dawn barrage flattened Iranian military compounds, intelligence facilities and munition warehouses in Syrian territory, Israel said, describing the assault as the nation's largest air operation in years. It came after Iran fired around 20 missiles toward the Israeli military stationed in the volatile Golan Heights region, in what reportedly is the first time Iran has attacked Israel from Syria.

"We don't want an escalation, but won't let anyone attack us or build an infrastructure to attack us in the future," Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Thursday, calling it “a new phase” in their longtime rivalry.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-10/theyre-lying-iran-denies-role-golan-heights-firefight-says-it-does-not-have
Israeli Airstrike In Syria Was "Most Extensive Attack In Decades"
by Tyler Durden
Thu, 05/10/2018 - 14:4

In what is now being described as the "most direct confrontation between Israel and Iran in decades," Israel exchanged fire with Syrian and Iranian forces during a late-night showdown that ended early Thursday morning.

The exchange came days after Israel called up reserve troops to the Golan Heights, the disputed border region.

It also followed by less than two days President Trump's decision to pull the US out of the Iran deal. Trump said Tuesday that the US would swiftly reimpose economic sanctions on Iran that had been lifted following the 2015 agreement.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #727 on: May 11, 2018, 12:00:23 am »
Some more WWIII news here:

TruNews TV Broadcast Thursday, May 10, 2018 - Neal Jackson, Robots Replacing Humans & World War III!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFxJPcmcyg

You'll have to cue it up to the proper section of the program to get that segment.

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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #728 on: May 23, 2018, 03:32:40 pm »
Some more WWIII news here:

TruNews TV Broadcast Thursday, May 10, 2018 - Neal Jackson, Robots Replacing Humans & World War III!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFxJPcmcyg

You'll have to cue it up to the proper section of the program to get that segment.
YES...the Nazis will use Robots to fight in World War Three...

But the Plan is: 'DO NOT TELL THE HUMANS'

The Game is Robotic Warfare...
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Common Sense ran away..."

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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #729 on: May 23, 2018, 09:32:50 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_46sgJeXGo0
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LINDA MOULTON HOWE IN NYC MAY 10TH Presented by Alan Steinfeld New Realities and The Assemblage ? Linda Moulton Howe
will share warnings and how the newly emerging human technologies of hybrids, androids and clones are echoes of ancient to current day DNA manipulation in Earth life by a very advanced alien presence.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #730 on: May 26, 2018, 07:33:54 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_46sgJeXGo0
Linda Moulton Howe Live
LINDA MOULTON HOWE IN NYC MAY 10TH Presented by Alan Steinfeld New Realities and The Assemblage ? Linda Moulton Howe
will share warnings and how the newly emerging human technologies of hybrids, androids and clones are echoes of ancient to current day DNA manipulation in Earth life by a very advanced alien presence.

I strange way the mark of the beast will be implemented; Nicholson1968 as a interesting view on this. 
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On today?s Reality Check, Rick Wiles discusses the historic peace summit between President Trump and Kim Jung Un. He also relates U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis? call for American troops to remain in Syria with Russia's warning that a False Flag chemical attack by the Western backed Free Syrian Army is imminent.


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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #732 on: July 15, 2018, 02:47:58 pm »
"What are you babbling about!? The nuclear strike is not a threat -- it's been the objective all along!"

If there is a WW3 -- I think it's going to be The Elite vs. The People (population reduction).
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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #733 on: July 15, 2018, 03:43:13 pm »
"What are you babbling about!? The nuclear strike is not a threat -- it's been the objective all along!"

If there is a WW3 -- I think it's going to be The Elite vs. The People (population reduction).

I found it interesting that as opposed to popular belief ... modern tactical and icbm nuclear fusion bombs have relatively low radioactive fallout due to highly efficient reaction .( before computer simulations and underground testing with Japan ... ). Let alone neutron bombs that none of the main powers will admit to ( other than china) .  Nuclear winter is also probably not as dramatic as portrayed ... more like the large volcanoes that have gone off like Krakatoa .

Also Agenda21 main purpose would be to herd huge populations into small areas to maximize the depop when the bombs go off .

So if you were an elite in a  proper shelter ... you could come out and take the planet after a month or so ...


Repo Man - J. Frank Parnell: 'Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, Indeed. You Hear The Most Outrageous Lies About It.'

9/11 ground zero (HFC's Hydrogen tanks .... fusion reaction in the basement ....  )

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1634-ground-zeros-fires-still-burning/
3 December 2001
Ground Zero?s fires still burning

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The use of FEF foam began on 28 September, with thousands of gallons being pumped into the rubble. One target was the large Freon tanks that had served the WTC air-conditioning system and might have exploded. Blaich told New Scientist: ?The foam also extinguished the fires in World Trade Center No 7, the wreckage of a 40-story office tower.?

http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol35i1/page19.htm
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Scientists with the Environmental Protection Agency estimate that 10,000 tons of toxic dust particles filled the air following the World Trade Center disaster. The air-conditioning system for the south tower contained 90,000 pounds of Freon in basement storage tanks. When Freon is vaporized, it becomes phosgene, a corrosive gas developed as a tool of warfare during World War I, which kills by burning and blistering the lungs.
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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/07/01/why-is-israel-controlling-9-11-troof/
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These are solid proofs including photos of the safe houses and real life specifics on the how and why of 9/11, for those with an attention span.

The original and only 9/11 investigation ran from September 11, 2001 to an undisclosed date in 2003 when a preliminary report was issued to the White House.


From there, the Department of Energy Preliminary Report on Events of 9/11 was, according to confirmed sources, sent to congressional leaders, the Pentagon, the Supreme Court and security agency personnel only at the highest levels.

The information here has been in the hands of these people and key members of the press, particularly the Fox/Murdoch organization, for 15 years.

Here is what the report stated:

    9/11 was the result of nuclear weapons planted by Saudi and Israel intelligence groups operating throughout the New York area, many as ?art students?
    Weapons were placed under the twin towers in moving vans parked in specific places selected for reasons the DOE did not know.  (Later, the DOE learned that the devices were planted under the freon tanks in the twin towers, something they learned when they read the works of Dmitri Khalezov, a former Soviet nuclear anti-proliferation investigator.
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The DOE report believed Building 7 to have been destroyed with more than one very small nuclear weapon.  No information on type or placement was in the report.
Building 7 was described as having a structure with a strengthened subway station at its heart and a series of underground tunnels linking it to the other towers. These tunnels may have been used, the report stated, in planting weapons and moving personnel and equipment.
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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #734 on: October 20, 2018, 05:51:31 pm »
Wow - Putin lays down the law ...

Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in the event of nuclear war, the Russians will go to heaven,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MIBg-jSvqs
Vladimir Putin announces 'Russians will go to Heaven as martyrs'

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-20/putin-lays-down-law-valdai
Putin Lays Down The Law At Valdai
by Tyler Durden
Sat, 10/20/2018 - 07:0

With tensions between Russia and the West reaching Cold War levels, Valdai represented the first time we?ve heard Putin speak in a long-form discussion since Helsinki and the events thereafter ? IL-20, Khashoggi, etc.

So, this talk is worth everyone?s time.  And when I say everyone?s I mean every single person who could be affected by the breakdown of the U.S. political system and how that spills over onto Russia?s shores.

In other words, pretty much everyone on the planet.

Because what Putin did at Valdai was to lay down the new rules of conduct in geopolitical affairs.  He put the U.S. and European oligarchs I call The Davos Crowd on notice.

There is a limit to your provocations and attempts to undermine Russia.  So don?t cross that line.

Peace Through Strength

The big quote from his talk is the one everyone is focusing on, and rightly so, Russia?s policy about using nuclear weapons.

It?s not that Putin?s stance was any different than in the past. Russia will strike back at an aggressor under any circumstance where the future of Russia is at stake.  It was his assurance that in doing so
1) it would be just and righteous ?dying like martyrs? and
2) so swift and brutal the aggressors would ?die like dogs? bereft of the chance to ask for salvation.

https://youtu.be/Cjv3Z6EtGaA


Those are strong words.  They are the words of a meek man.  And the word meek, as Jordan Peterson reminds us, describes someone who has weapons, knows how to use them and keeps them sheathed until they have no other option.

The reaction from the audience (see video above) was nervous laughter, but I don?t think Putin was having one over on anyone.

He was serious.  This is the very definition of meek.

It is really no different than the attitude of Secretary of State James Mattis who said, ?I come in peace. I didn?t bring artillery. But I?m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f$*k with me, I?ll kill you all.?

Men like this are not to be tested too hard.  And Putin?s response to the shooting down of the IL-20 plane and its crew was to cross a bunch of diplomatic lines by handing out S-300s to Syria and erecting a de facto no-fly zone over Western Syria and the Eastern Mediterranean.

Notice how there have been no attacks or even harsh language coming out of Israel or the U.S. in the past few weeks.  The failure of the British/French/Israeli operation to sucker Trump into an invasion of Syria is now complete.

And I?m convinced that Nikki Haley paid the price.

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Re: POLL: World War III---On The Near Horizon...?
« Reply #735 on: October 21, 2018, 03:05:47 pm »

Trump says US will withdraw from nuclear arms treaty with Russia

Experts warn of ?most severe crisis in nuclear arms control since the 1980s? as Trump confirms US will leave INF agreement

Julian Borger in Washington, Martin Pengelly in New York and agencies

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Donald Trump in Nevada on Saturday. He said: ?We?re going to terminate the agreement and we?re going to pull out.?
Donald Trump in Nevada on Saturday. He said: ?We?re going to terminate the agreement and we?re going to pull out.? Photograph: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

Donald Trump has confirmed the US will leave an arms control treaty with Russia dating from the cold war that has kept nuclear missiles out of Europe for three decades.

?We?ll have to develop those weapons,? the president told reporters in Nevada after a rally. ?We?re going to terminate the agreement and we?re going to pull out.?

Trump was referring to the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces treaty (INF), which banned ground-launch nuclear missiles with ranges from 500km to 5,500km. Signed by Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev, it led to nearly 2,700 short- and medium-range missiles being eliminated, and an end to a dangerous standoff between US Pershing and cruise missiles and Soviet SS-20 missiles in Europe.
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The Guardian reported on Friday that Trump?s third national security adviser, John Bolton, a longstanding opponent of arms control treaties, was pushing for US withdrawal. The US says Russia has been violating the INF agreement with the development and deployment of a new cruise missile. Under the terms of the treaty, it would take six months for US withdrawal to take effect.

US hawks have also argued that the INF treaty ties the country?s hands in its strategic rivalry with China in the Pacific, with no response to Chinese medium-range missiles that could threaten US bases, allies and shipping.

Bolton and the top arms control adviser in the National Security Council (NSC), Tim Morrison, are also opposed to the extension of another major pillar of arms control, the 2010 New Start agreement with Russia, which limited the number of deployed strategic warheads on either side to 1,550. That agreement, signed by Barack Obama and Dmitri Medvedev, then president of Russia, is due to expire in 2021.

    This is the most severe crisis in nuclear arms control since the 1980s
    Malcolm Chalmers, Royal United Services Institute

?This is the most severe crisis in nuclear arms control since the 1980s,? said Malcolm Chalmers, the deputy director general of the Royal United Services Institute. ?If the INF treaty collapses, and with the New Start treaty on strategic arms due to expire in 2021, the world could be left without any limits on the nuclear arsenals of nuclear states for the first time since 1972.?

Speaking to reporters in Nevada, Trump said: ?Russia has violated the agreement. They?ve been violating it for many years and I don?t know why President Obama didn?t negotiate or pull out.

?We?re not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and do weapons and we?re not allowed to. We?re the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we?ve honoured the agreement but Russia has not unfortunately honoured the agreement so we?re going to terminate the agreement, we?re going to pull out.?
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Asked to clarify, the president said: ?Unless Russia comes to us and China comes to us and they all come to us and they say, ?Let?s all of us get smart and let?s none of us develop those weapons,? but if Russia?s doing it and if China?s doing it and we?re adhering to the agreement, that?s unacceptable. So we have a tremendous amount of money to play with with our military.?

Jeffrey Lewis, the director of the East Asia nonproliferation program at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, said: ?This is a colossal mistake. Russia gets to violate the treaty and Trump takes the blame.

?I doubt very much that the US will deploy much that would have been prohibited by the treaty. Russia, though, will go gangbusters.?