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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2013, 06:39:35 pm »
This is a headline, AP.      They are telling us we are cool with it, obey, don't so much as squek...
        It muken amazes me they had the grapes to run this shiiite, citizens are ignored, thats it!

HEADLINE.....A.P.         Reaction cool to US arms plan for Syrian rebels
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« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2013, 06:42:35 pm »
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« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2013, 10:20:01 pm »
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article3791863.ece

  video and article at the link...

US troops on Syria border as Obama arms rebels


Three hundred US Marines have been deployed to northern Jordan to pave the way for the West to arm Syrian rebels.
A Patriot anti-aircraft missile system, designed to protect Jordanian territory from attack by Assad missiles, has also been moved into the area.
The deployment, seen by The Times north of Al-Mafraq, has been put in place under cover of a military training exercise being held this week, but it will remain there for months.
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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2013, 10:55:13 pm »
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article3791863.ece

  video and article at the link...

US troops on Syria border as Obama arms rebels


Three hundred US Marines have been deployed to northern Jordan to pave the way for the West to arm Syrian rebels.
A Patriot anti-aircraft missile system, designed to protect Jordanian territory from attack by Assad missiles, has also been moved into the area.
The deployment, seen by The Times north of Al-Mafraq, has been put in place under cover of a military training exercise being held this week, but it will remain there for months.

Why do I have a feeling democracy will be coming to Jordan after Syria?





The globalist HATE progressive secular nations in the middle east. Just ask these two...





And didn't Egypt and Syria help the CIA torture and even kill prisoners?

...why, yes they did.


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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2013, 06:50:39 am »
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/assad-prepares-offensive-as-obama-promises-rebels-arms.html

  more at the link....

Assad Prepares Offensive as Obama Promises Rebels Arms


President Barack Obama’s decision to send some light weapons to Syrian rebels may be too little and too late to thwart a regime offensive to retake Aleppo, the nation’s largest city and commercial capital.
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Regime forces supported by fighters from the Iranian-backed Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah have moved north after defeating rebels in al-Qusair, a setback that triggered concern in Washington that Iran and its Lebanese ally are tipping the balance in favor of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.
“Arming the Syrian rebels is unlikely to tip the balance in their favor,” said Shadi Hamid, director of research at the Brookings Institution’s Doha Center. “It might have made a difference a year ago, but, today, the Assad regime -- particularly after re-taking Qusair -- has the advantage.”
Even some U.S. officials are worried that Obama’s reluctant decision to provide limited amounts of small arms and ammunition to the Syrian opposition is enough to drag the U.S. into a third Mideast war but not enough to win it.
The U.S. will direct its aid to the rebels’ Supreme Military Command, headed by Major General Salim Idris, who has appealed in recent weeks for heavy arms from the U.S. and Europeans beyond weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades.
Senator Bob Casey, a Pennsylvania Democrat who spoke with Idris by phone this week, said of the opposition leader, “He was very clear: Machine guns and RPGs can’t compete with air power. He asked specifically in addition to conventional arms for anti-tank weapons that could deal with the Russian tanks and also anti-aircraft weapons.”

Proxy War

Worse, Syria now threatens to become a larger proxy war, said two administration officials familiar with the internal policy debate who asked not to be identified discussing the classified arms shipments. Iran, Hezbollah and Russia are allied with Assad, while the U.S., U.K., France, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey and other predominately Sunni nations are backing the rebels, they said.
The most perverse twist, even given the complicated politics of the Middle East, is that the U.S. now finds itself sharing a goal with the Sunni extremist groups allied with al-Qaeda that are seeking to replace Assad’s secular regime with Islamic rule, said one of the officials. While the Islamists’ vision of a post-Assad Syria is clear, Obama’s isn’t, this official said.
Both officials said the Obama administration has done virtually no planning for a postwar Syria, much as President George W. Bush’s administration had no road map for Iraq after the U.S. invasion other than a dead-on-arrival plan to put Iraqi exile Ahmed Chalabi in power.

Extremist Risk

The administration has been hamstrung since the war in Syria began by the risk that weapons could fall into terrorists’ hands or enable radical Islamic groups to take control of Syria and by the absence of domestic political support for intervening.

Most American still oppose intervening in Syria, according to recent polls. In a NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll released June 5, 15 percent of respondents advocated taking military action, and 11 percent supported sending arms to rebels. A plurality of respondents, 42 percent, said they favor providing only humanitarian assistance to the Syrian opposition, according to the poll, which surveyed 1,000 people from May 30 to June 2 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
Given the lateness and scope of the president’s about-face on arming the rebels, the timing may not matter, the officials said.
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2013, 06:57:51 am »
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100816356

  So here we go........GAS IS GOING TO $5 AND $6 AND BEYOND


Oil Hits 9-Month High As Syria Tensions Escalate


U.S. oil prices rose to the highest level since September on Friday as tensions escalated between the U.S. and Syria.

WTI oil prices climbed more than a dollar to a session high of $98.25 a barrel, a level not reached since Sept. 17, 2012. Brent crude futures were up about $1.50 a barrel, reaching a session high of $106.64 a barrel, the highest price in over two months. Oil was trading slightly off the highs at midday.
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« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2013, 07:09:43 am »
I hope the Russians say NO

But really I suspect they have finally found a means to silence the Russians.

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« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2013, 07:46:48 am »
 Russia and America, are we so far apart. This is global stuff, we are nothing to these NWO shitbags.
 Behind closed doors agreements are made that take peons into consideration, we are 0000 to them.
 
 Not to be apocalyptic, though should they decide a culling is necessary their underground city's are well stocked, if a biological epidemic begins they have the anecdote. In short it a a win, win for the NWO if this is to be their solution, not for us however.

 If its to be a war zone limited to one specific region, it goes to follow the depression to follow will make the 30's look like a walk in the park..

  The one and only way to end this abomination is to withdraw all troops, is this possable, can we as Americans justify the genocide or is it to late, can redemption  be a consideration. Will the victims of this abomination sinmply accept Americans definition of we are so sorry, we were deceived but did nothing.

 Only one solution would be worthy of consideration to still the waters, every rat who was involved in this is put in chains and appear before a war crimes court  just as the Nazi crew captured were  in Nuremburg.  This would require total exposure, a nation united, a soul search to end them all.  Is it possible?    Humanaity is on the line!
 

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2013, 10:25:37 am »
With reguards to operation "Eager Lion" being run in Jordan:


White House announces it will not send troops into Syria, deploys them to the border
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/14/white-house-announces-it-will-not-send-troops-into-syria/

Multinational friendship jump highlights cooperation at Eager Lion 2013
http://www.dvidshub.net/news/108577/multinational-friendship-jump-highlights-cooperation-eager-lion-2013#.Ubx8-3Ao51s

Exercise Eager Lion begins in Jordan
http://www.army.mil/article/105272/Exercise_Eager_Lion_begins_in_Jordan/


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Sons of Guns
Episode #: 402 (50)
"Hangfire"  April 26, 2013


"After the scare involving the M26 Tank Destroyer, Will gets a call from a two star general wanting him to travel to Jordan leaving Stephanie and Kris running the shop. With the issue of the SOCOM orders, as well as other clientele, Red Jacket has too much on their plate to the point that one customer decides to choose another gun shop, Mesa Kenetic. Stephanie is unfamilar with the shop name until she learns from Tom and Flemm that that shop is run by former RJ employee, Vince Buckles, much to Stephanie and Kris' dismay. Red Jacket then gets a visit from specialist Ira Sellers, who is looking for parts for his Solothurn Anti Tank Rifle. Despite Stephanie's objections, Kris' takes the job for Ira, only being given a week to work on it. During the test, the team realizes that a new firing pin is needed for the Solothurn; while Stephanie tries everything to get it, Flemm makes one phone call to an old friend, Vince. With the help of Vince, Flemm manages to get a firing pin for the Solothurn. When Stephanie spots Vince in front of Red Jacket, she questions Flemm's loyalty to the shop. Will and Joe return from Jordan only to learn that the SOCOM issue hasn't been resolved; however, the team is going out to test Ira's Solothurn. After returning from the Solothurn demo, Stephanie tells Will that Vince is back in town and he has his own shop."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sons_of_Guns_episodes


Even With U.S. Guns, Syria’s Rebels Still Might Lose
05.02.13 - Spencer Ackerman


A Syrian fighter in Idlib, March 2012. Photo: Freedom House / Flickr



2012:







Marines train for realistic security during large-scale exercise in Jordan

KING FAISAL AIR BASE, Jordan – Standing post and hiking patrols are not the most glamorous work in an infantryman’s career. But these security measures ensured the safety of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit’s Aviation Combat Element and forced those Marines tasked with providing security to get back to basics here throughout the month of May during Exercise Eager Lion 12.
http://lejeunedeployed.freedomblogging.com/2012/06/15/marines-train-for-realistic-security-during-large-scale-exercise-in-jordan/

US, 18 other nations, wrap up Eager Lion military exercise in Jordan

Though the exercise had been long scheduled and was designed to improve military coordination between allies, it drew far more attention than usual given the deepening civil war across the border in Syria. Many press accounts, particularly on cable news channels like CNN, tried to connect the exercise to Syria's war. Among the wilder media speculation were claims Eager Lion [2012] was a dry-run for an invasion or cover for training Syrian rebels.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/0529/US-18-other-nations-wrap-up-Eager-Lion-military-exercise-in-Jordan
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2013, 10:52:55 am »
With reguards to operation "Eager Lion" being run in Jordan:
             Sasha, I allways get miffed by the name of these ops..They must have some gang of loonatic, sadistic, spinners in a think tank.
Reminds me of the Pheonix Progam.
              OK, my question is the USA establishing a no fly zone, if they do these aircraft will be armed. They can spin this any way they want but if a jet gets hit, thats it. END GAME.
              Some mucker, ex General was ranting (CNN) about how wonderfull a no fly zone would be, these guys are convinced we are mungs.

 

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« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2013, 12:43:10 pm »
It began long (2+ years) ago. Now its only going public. As disgusting as ever. They say that now they will do publicly what they have been doing for last 2+ years. Poor Syrians, no matter what happens, it ends tragically for them. Best scenario is likely a prolonged proxy war, if Russia stands its ground. Unless Obummer gets finally impeached, and than prosecuted for his crimes, including Libya and Syria. I am sure Steve Pieczenick would have something to say about this..

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Morsi Cuts Egypt's Syria Ties, Backs No-fly Zone
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2013, 07:34:15 pm »
CAIRO — Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi said he had cut all diplomatic ties with Damascus on Saturday and backed a no-fly zone over Syria, pitching the most populous Arab state more firmly against President Bashar al-Assad.

Addressing a rally called by Sunni Muslim clerics in Cairo, the Sunni Islamist head of state also warned Assad's ally, the Iranian-backed Lebanese Shi'ite militia Hezbollah, to pull back from fighting in Syria.

"Hezbollah must leave Syria. These are serious words," said Morsi, whose country hosted a conference of Sunni clerics this week who issued a call for holy war against Damascus. "There is no space or place for Hezbollah in Syria."

The rally underscored the region's deepening sectarian rift. A cleric who spoke before Morsi described Shi'ites as heretics, infidels, oppressors and polytheists.

It was also a show of support for Morsi as his opponents mobilize for protests to demand early presidential elections.

Morsi waved Syrian and Egyptian flags as he entered the auditorium packed with 20,000 supporters. The crowd chanted: "From the free revolutionaries of Egypt: We will stamp on you, Bashar!"

Morsi, a Muslim Brotherhood politician, steered clear of direct references to Shi'ites and Iran but in a partial allusion to Tehran, he accused states in the region and beyond of feeding "a campaign of extermination and planned ethnic cleansing" in Syria.

"We decided today to entirely break off relations with Syria and with the current Syrian regime," he said. He also urged world powers not to hesitate to enforce a no-fly zone over Syria.

Western diplomats said on Friday that Washington was considering a limited no-fly zone over parts of Syria, but the White House said later that the United States had no national interest in pursuing that option.

Russia, an ally of Assad and fierce opponent of outside military intervention in Syria, said any attempt to impose a no-fly zone using F-16 fighter jets and Patriots based in Jordan would be illegal.

Morsi said he was organizing an urgent summit of Arab and other Islamic states to discuss the situation in Syria, where the United States has in recent days decided to take steps to arm the rebels.

Egypt's U.S.-funded and -trained army is among the most powerful in the Middle East. There has been no suggestion, however, that Egypt, a country steeped in poverty, should get involved in the fighting in Syria.

http://www.voanews.com/content/egypt-syria-no-fly-zone/1682647.html

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« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2013, 08:03:58 pm »
RollyPolly, that is some good info.
It seems the battle lines and alliances that have been set still hold.

The moment the US or any country for that matter, tries to enforce a no fly zone, is when the actual multi country conflict starts.  Let's hope the Syrian Army mops up the rebels before our leaders get a chance to start a multi nation war.

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« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2013, 11:55:39 pm »
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2013, 07:53:16 am »
 And so it begins.
 Iran , are they defending their neighbor from western intervention, isn't it a bit obvious our regime has been supporting these muckers.

  The NWO crew will not be effected, their lives, family's and fortunes are safe, no collateral damge on their side, however the commoners on this planet will get mucked.

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« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2013, 02:21:01 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/16/lawmakers-press-obama-to-implement-no-fly-zone-over-syria/
 
  Little Miss Lindsey Graham on Meet the Press....

Lawmakers press Obama to implement no-fly zone over Syria


Capitol Hill lawmakers pressed President Obama on Sunday to go beyond supplying Syrian rebels with small arms and to consider imposing a no-fly zone over the war-torn country.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said supplying rebels with automatic weapons and ammunition is not enough to stop the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

“We need to create a no-fly zone,” Graham told NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “We cannot take air power out of the equation.”

President Obama decided Thursday to arm rebels trying to overthrow Assad, after saying he had enough conclusive evidence that the Syrian strongman had crossed a “red line” by using chemical weapons on people in the 2-year-long civil war in which 93,000 people have been killed.

Graham and others think Assad’s superior air power – in addition to support from Russia and the terror group Hezbollah -- has recently helped tip the balance of power in his favor and question whether Obama’s decision last week might be too little, too late.

Graham was joined on the show by Georgia Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss who said the United States’ position must be based essentially on daily evaluations of the military situation in Syria.

“A no-fly zone may be the ultimate tactic that needs to be taken,” said Chambliss, the highest-ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2013, 03:38:43 pm »
Lets hear it fo little Miss Graham!  Cheerleader for al Qaeda's Syrian insurgency!








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« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2013, 10:53:39 am »
Fighting Terrorism by Arming Terrorists
June 17, 2013 -  W. James Antle III


The Syrian intervention John McCain and the Clintons want would be a war for Islamism, not democracy.

The Obama administration appears to be moving toward arming rebels in Syria, though the White House has only publicly confirmed an increase in the “scope and scale” of its military support.

By one estimate, seven of nine key rebel combatant groups are Islamist. “As the civil war has dragged on, the rebels have become more Islamist and extreme,” the Economist reports. Thus the administration’s decision to arm only the non-Islamist rebels may soon resemble O.J. Simpson’s search for the “real killers.”

Arms shipments approved by the Obama administration have already ended up in the hands of jihadists in Libya. “The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya,” reported the New York Times, “allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.”

Operation Fast and Furious meets American foreign policy.

In his apparent Syria about-face, the president has been egged on by the Clintons. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had already proposed arming the Syrian rebels, only to see cooler heads prevail. Her husband, former President Bill Clinton, has also clamored for greater U.S. involvement.

Upon reports that President Obama was reconsidering his position, Bill Clinton patted his successor on the head. “It looks to me like this thing is trending in the right direction,” he told MSNBC. He urged Obama to ignore opinion polls showing massive public opposition to any Syria intervention beyond humanitarian assistance.

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http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/fighting-terrorism-by-armin-terrorists/
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« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2013, 11:08:39 am »
G8 summit: Europe will 'pay price' if it arms Syrian rebels, Assad warns
17 June 2013 - James Legge


US set for tense talks with Russia over arming rebels.

Europe will “pay the price” if it delivers arms to rebel forces in Syria, President Bashar al-Assad said in an interview with a German newspaper.
 
"If the Europeans deliver weapons, the backyard of Europe will become terrorist and Europe will pay the price for it," he said in an advance extract of an interview due to be published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Tuesday.

He also warned that delivering arms would result in the direct export of "terrorism" to Europe. Assad was commenting for the first time since the United States announced on Thursday that they would be supplying military aid to rebels fighting for his overthrow, Assad said: “Terrorists will gain experience in combat and return with extremist ideologies.”

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/g8-summit-europe-will-pay-price-if-it-arms-syrian-rebels-assad-warns-8662107.html
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« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2013, 12:51:41 pm »
Little does he know these bearded flesh eating Al Qaeda rebels are the globalists personal army. Why use special forces when you can hire thousands of these low grade morons to destroy countries for pennies on the dollar. After they're done overthrowing progressive non-secular nations in the middle east, our globalist masters are going to bring them here.

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The Obama administration is considering resettling thousands of refugees who left Syria during the country's ongoing civil war to multiple towns and cities across the United States, the L.A. Times reports.

A resettlement plan under discussion in Washington and other capitals is aimed at relieving pressure on Middle Eastern countries straining to support 1.6 million refugees, as well as assisting hard-hit Syrian families.

The State Department is "ready to consider the idea," an official from the department said, if the administration receives a formal request from the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Refugees, which is the usual procedure.

The United States usually accepts about half the refugees that the U.N. agency proposes for resettlement. California has historically taken the largest share, but Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, Maryland and Virginia are also popular destinations.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/06/11/Obama-Admin-Considers-Resettling-Thousands-of-Syrian-Refugees-in-U-S

You read the right.

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« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2013, 01:01:32 pm »
                Diplomats, nations leaders, all know the NWO wants controll, there is no doubt.
YES-Aware that the USA regime has been funding, arming, advising -(mercs) and given intelligence these rebs for some time, most folks agree a few years, I believe much longer.
 Assad  one point in particular is bringing attention to the inevitable:" Sasha's, quote-line in red-
                     Terrorists will gain experience in combat and return with extremist ideologies.”
                                   Perpetual war, collateral effect globally/domestically.
                                             This is the NWO's dreamscape.


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« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2013, 01:03:23 pm »
[Warmongers] press Obama to implement no-fly zone over Syria
June 17, 2013


Capitol Hill lawmakers pressed President Obama on Sunday to go beyond supplying Syrian rebels with small arms and to consider imposing a no-fly zone over the war-torn country.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said supplying rebels with automatic weapons and ammunition is not enough to stop the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

“We need to create a no-fly zone,” Graham told NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “We cannot take air power out of the equation.”

However, such a decision is not without peril.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/17/lawmakers-press-obama-to-implement-no-fly-zone-over-syria/
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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2013, 01:18:50 pm »
Little does he know these bearded flesh eating Al Qaeda rebels are the globalists personal army. Why use special forces when you can hire thousands of these low grade morons to destroy countries for pennies on the dollar. After they're done overthrowing progressive non-secular nations in the middle east, our globalist masters are going to bring them here.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/06/11/Obama-Admin-Considers-Resettling-Thousands-of-Syrian-Refugees-in-U-S
You read that right.
Hi rolly.
         Assad knows what real deal is,  diplomats/ Iraqis, Afghanistan's, Libyans, Iranians, etc. They know!  (in my oppinion).
       911 was the key to the elites/ pandoras box we know that, but this so called  war on terror will continue to expand, implode, our constitution will continue to evaporate, the Bill of Rights, debt increase,domestic controll etc.

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2013, 01:53:01 pm »
I think the rebels have all but lost?..curious timing to get involved...

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« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2013, 02:06:23 pm »
[Warmongers] press Obama to implement no-fly zone over Syria
June 17, 2013


Capitol Hill lawmakers pressed President Obama on Sunday to go beyond supplying Syrian rebels with small arms and to consider imposing a no-fly zone over the war-torn country.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said supplying rebels with automatic weapons and ammunition is not enough to stop the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

“We need to create a no-fly zone,” Graham told NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “We cannot take air power out of the equation.”

However, such a decision is not without peril.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/17/lawmakers-press-obama-to-implement-no-fly-zone-over-syria/

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=cache:UEbE_CP0X4EJ:http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan/their-war-not-ours.html%2Bpat+buchanan+syria+no+fly+zone&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&ct=clnk

  From an article by Pat Buchanan....

Congressional war hawks, led by Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, are cawing for air strikes and no-fly zones, which would mean dead and captured Americans and many more dead Syrians.


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« Reply #65 on: June 17, 2013, 03:39:51 pm »

Larson/
LIL Johny luvs the spotlight, God help us we have to so much as hear his mucken name.
 Shot down and saved by a peon, time in a Hanoi Hilton (classified/sealed), a probable cause of the Forestal disaster and the first guy off the ship.
 I detest this old bag of pizz, he obviously gets off on blowing up humans and sticking his nose up the backside of the elites.

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« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2013, 08:49:53 am »
Russia blocks mention of Assad's fate in G8 Syria declaration
June 18, 2013
http://rt.com/news/syria-russia-assad-g8-876/


Moscow has insisted that no demands for the resignation of Syrian President Bashar Assad should be made in the G8 summit’s communiqué, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said.

Any mandate in the document outlining Assad’s fate would be “deeply wrong, harmful and it would upset the political balance” being established to aid the conflict-resolution process, Ryabkov told reporters. 

“We cannot dictate to participants of the future [Geneva-2] conference [on Syria] as well as to those who will take part in the transitional period in the country what this process will end up with – then there would be no sense in starting it,” the Russian diplomat told journalists.  “The logic of our policy is different: It is based on the recognition of Syrian sovereignty, and the necessity of doing the maximum possible in order for Syrians to be able to make a political decision regarding their future.” 

The Russian deputy Foreign Minister also lashed out at Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who called the G8 summit in Northern Ireland “G7 plus one” – a criticism of Moscow for “supporting” the Syrian regime.

 Moscow’s stance on resolving the Syrian crisis is completely in line with other G8 members, Ryabkov emphasized.
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« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2013, 09:19:15 am »
Against senseless war before he was for it, John Kerry's Acceptance Speech at the Democratic National Convention:

"...I will bring back this nation's time-honored tradition: The United States of America never goes to war because we want to; we only go to war because we have to. That is the standard of our nation."

“Values are not just words, values are what we live by. They're about the causes that we champion and the people we fight for.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25678-2004Jul29.html


Kerry Called For “Immediate” Air Strikes on Syria
June 19, 2013 - Paul Joseph Watson


US Secretary of State John Kerry called for “immediate” air strikes on Syria last week following the Obama administration’s claim that President Bashar Al-Assad had used chemical weapons, a rush to war that was soundly rejected by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

After Kerry called for Syrian airfields to be attacked, the “Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey “threw a series of brushback pitches at Kerry, demanding to know just exactly what the post-strike plan would be and pointing out that the State Department didn’t fully grasp the complexity of such an operation,” reports YNet News.

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« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2013, 10:54:16 am »
If Secretary of Hate Kerry can't get airstrikes and an open alliance with terrorists in Syria, then the terrorists, armed and trained by NATO and some gulf states, will become the target of the airstrikes and more.  NATO's 'humanitarian love bombing' will continue al la Libya - at least that seems to be the plan.


Special Report: Syria's Islamists seize control as moderates dither
Jun 19, 2013

(Reuters) - As the Syrian civil war got under way, a former electrician who calls himself Sheikh Omar built up a brigade of rebel fighters. In two years of struggle against President Bashar al-Assad, they came to number 2,000 men, he said, here in the northern city of Aleppo. Then, virtually overnight, they collapsed.

Omar's group, Ghurabaa al-Sham, wasn't defeated by the government. It was dismantled by a rival band of revolutionaries - hardline Islamists.

The Islamists moved against them at the beginning of May. After three days of sporadic clashes Omar's more moderate fighters, accused by the Islamists of looting, caved in and dispersed, according to local residents. Omar said the end came swiftly.

The Islamists confiscated the brigade's weapons, ammunition and cars, Omar said. "They considered this war loot. Maybe they think we are competitors," he said. "We have no idea about their goals. What we have built in two years disappeared in a single day."

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« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2013, 07:19:26 pm »
Apparently weapons were headed to Syria from several ports at once.  By some reports a unique disaster for the shipping industry kept one of the shipment from reaching the Syrian Rebels/al Qaeda.  Sabotage?

Weapons that Arrived

Syria rebels say now have ‘game-changing’ weapons
http://www.arabnews.com/news/455731

Syria conflict: Rebels 'have new weapons'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23011819

Weapons that Sank

Freedom of navigation information: Crash huge U.S. container ship in the Indian Ocean was transporting weapons to the Syria

"Moscow, the truth (special: Yulia Verbttskaaa + editing): According to information navigational freedom in the Russian Far East that one of the largest container ships in the world, "Mall Comfort", crashed and split into two halves on Monday off the Yemeni coast in the Pacific Ocean, while the the movement of weapons and ammunition to the U.S. armed Syrians from Southeast Asia.

According to published site "Port News" Russian specialist navigation and maritime trade, the container ship in question, which crashed due to storms as it seems or by "sabotage", was carrying about four thousand and five hundred container weapon and ammunition to the U.S. Army in Jordan to be handed over to the rebels Syrians and the armed gangs of the Syrian opposition run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. According to published site, the ship was carrying a weapon and ammunition from the U.S. Army depots in "Singapore" to the Jordanian port of Aqaba, so they can be transported from there to the Syrian-Jordanian border."

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"'MOL Comfort sank due to yet unclear reasons, sailing from Singapore to Jeddah and after that to North Europe, leaving behind hundreds of drifting containers and a huge aftershock hitting liner sector and all of the maritime industry.

 Even the scale of the consequences is hard, impossible, to estimate, not to mention consequences themselves. This is the 1st case in liner sector, when modern ocean-going liner container vessel (built in Japan!) sank in the ocean after breaking in 2 parts, like a poorly built and managed bulk carrier or over aged coaster. Nothing like this ever occurred, and no one believed it was possible, even theoretically. It just could not happen, but still, here it is.'"
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« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2013, 12:28:38 pm »
U.S. leaves some 700 combat-ready troops in Jordan after training exercise
Jun.22, 2013 - Reuters
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/u-s-leaves-some-700-combat-ready-troops-in-jordan-after-training-exercise-1.531310

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The United States has left about 700 combat-equipped troops in Jordan after a training exercise there, at the request of the Jordanian government, President Barack Obama said on Friday.

With both countries keeping a wary eye on the civil war in Syria, Obama said in a letter to Congress that 700 of the troops deployed to Jordan as part of a training exercise will remain behind.

"This detachment that participated in the exercise and remained in Jordan includes Patriot missile systems, fighter aircraft, and related support, command, control, and communications personnel and systems," Obama said.   

Last weekend the Pentagon announced that the U.S. will keep Patriot missile batteries and F-16 fighter jets in Jordan, also at the country's behest.


Eager Lion Troops Staying in Jordan
http://www.dvidshub.net/video/294051/eager-lion-troops-staying-jordan#.UcXdnXAo51s

US military expands presence in Jordan to 1,000 troops
Pentagon announces F-16 fighter jets, Patriot missile battery will stay in Jordan after having been sent there for Eager Lion military exercise.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=59607

US military presence in Jordan expands to 1,000 troops
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iiPa2PVwl_gHgPONM_wg2t5JMx4g?docId=CNG.c3015cb2f9103a3b3bca098ef13e7a5d.1b1
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« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2013, 09:23:47 pm »
British PM calls for military coup in Syria to oust President Assad

According to some Arab media reports, David Cameron is encouraging members of Syrian Army and security forces to launch a coup against legitimate government of President Bashar al-Assad.

He also has shamelessly promised that members of the army and security forces would not be prosecuted for what he called “atrocities committed against the Syrian people”, if they took part in the coup.

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British P.M. Cameron to Syrian military: Toss Assad and we’ll give you amnesty

British Prime Minister sent a brief message to Syria's military on Wednesday: Help oust President Bashar Assad and we’ll grant amnesty and give 100 percent forgiveness for crimes against the civilians.

Mr. Cameron’s call for coup was aimed at bringing a speedy end to more than two years of violence that has plagued the nation, leaving as many as 93,000 dead. He put the offer on the table after G-8 discussions failed to gain widespread consensus — most notably, from Russia — for international military intervention to end the civil war, The Times of Israel reported.

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Re: The US war in Syria begins now...
« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2013, 06:12:12 am »
Didnt we just watch this happen in Libya? Are we going to watch as Obama starts another non-war?

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« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2013, 06:10:50 pm »
Didnt we just watch this happen in Libya? Are we going to watch as Obama starts another non-war?

Bingo.  It's their new way of doing things.

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« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2013, 02:15:53 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gqyAaC4gng

  Youtube video....

     Henry Kissinger: Balkanized Syria Best Possible Outcome
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« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2013, 08:38:50 am »
All personnel withdrawn from Russian navy base in Syria - diplomat



http://rt.com/politics/navy-diplomat-syria-base-251/

Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister says all personnel had been evacuated from the navy resupply base in Tartus, Syria, adding that not a single Russian military serviceman remained in the country.

 Mikhail Bogdanov made the announcement in an interview with the Al-Hayat newspaper. “Presently, the Russian Defense Ministry has not a single person stationed in Syria. The base does not have any strategic military importance,” the newspaper quoted the Russian official as saying.
 
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« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2013, 08:51:13 am »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Interesting.

  Is this a green light from Moscow for NATO/NWO/US/UK/etc. TO FULL-SCALE INVADE SYRIA?

  Or is Russia playing a different game?  They still have ships in the Mediterranean.
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« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2013, 10:07:24 am »
Russia, by one source is garnering praise from the rejected political leaders of al Qaeda/FSA/al Nusra in Syria:  the Orwellian named "National Coordination Committee for Democratic Change".

Russia's not the only one playing games too.  Whether this angle is a Clintonian triangulation or an Obama appologist's pre-text for involvement, while 70% of Americans are against more involvement, the warmongers have unwittingly demonstrated that the US populous is tired of even the 'humanitarian-love-bombs' that leading from behind

Bill Schools Barry on Syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/opinion/sunday/dowd-bill-schools-barry-on-syria.html?hp&_r=0

Bill Clinton shoved Obama into military action in Syria
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/39824-bill-clinton-shoved-obama-into-military-action-in-syria/
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« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2013, 10:22:42 am »
Sharmine Narwani : “The US’s Afghan Exit May Depend on a Syrian One”
June 26, 2013 - Sharmine Narwani


Washington’s options in Syria are dwindling – and dwindling fast.

Forget the arguments now slowly dribbling out about why the US won’t/can’t get involved directly. Yes, they all have merit – from the difficulties in selecting militia recipients for their weapons, to the illegalities involved in establishing a no-fly zone, to the fact that more than 70% of Americans don’t support an intervention.

Trumped up chemical weapons charges against the Syrian government this month failed to produce evidence to convince a skeptical global community of any direct linkage. And the US’s follow-up pledge to arm rebels served only to immediately underline the difficulty of such a task, given the fungibility of weapons-flow among increasingly extremist militias.

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« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2013, 09:32:36 am »
FSA Militants with Gas Masks and Canisters
29 Jun 2013



Footage obtained by Syria Report shows armed men from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) wearing gas masks, reported to be American-produced – while firing unidentified projectiles in Deir el-Zour. The launchers seen in the footage are similar to those used by riot police – it has been suggested that the projectiles could be crude, homemade grenades containing chemical agents.

An article by Syria Report detailed a counter-insurgent raid by Iraqi security forces, which uncovered an Al-Qaeda factory specializing in the production of sarin.

Classified as a weapon of mass destruction in UN Resolution 687, sarin is a colorless, odorless substance which is extremely difficult to detect. Owing to its potency as a nerve agent, sarin is an attractive choice for extremists and is not particularly difficult to manufacture.

On May 30, Turkish security forces busted a suspected Jabhat al-Nusra cell – uncovering two kilograms of sarin gas.

In early May, Syria Report published details which cast significant doubt on accusations of chemical weapons use by the Syrian army. The device reportedly used to deliver a chemical agent, allegedly sarin gas, was later photographed attached to the chest of a Jabhat al-Nusra militant.

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