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The Fluoride In Your Tap Water
« on: February 23, 2013, 09:01:48 pm »
Here is a website that gives the official amount of Fluoride in the tap water of all cities
http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/MWF/index.asp
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Re: The Fluoride In Your Tap Water
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 10:01:30 pm »
The daughter wrote a paper for college chemistry on fluoride, showing even the American Dental Association (ADA) data cannot support ADA claims re fluoride in the water… or toothpaste…  professor not too happy… 

The ADA insists that drinking fluoridated water is good for our teeth… telling us, "Water that has been fortified with fluoride is similar to fortifying salt with iodine, milk with vitamin D and orange juice with vitamin C."  One should note however that while the human body has a natural biological need for iodine, vitamin D and vitamin C to be capable of functioning properly, there is no showing that life processes need water fortified with fluoride to function. 

While the ADA condones giving fluoridated water to infants and children, to gain the pre-eruptive protection benefits, we must look at their tables in their own document Fluoride Facts, available at www.ada.com.

In Table 1, the ADA presents an apparent recommend daily diet supplement of fluoride if the water does not contain recommended fluoridation levels.  Looking at the first column of Fluoride ion levels in drinking water, we can make a logical assumption that <0.3 ppm includes the situation where the water contains no fluoride.  If this is accepted as a valid assumption, then translating the per age ADA recommendations in the column to daily consumption in liters of water fluoridated to a level of 0.7 mg/L (typical) we find that the recommended consumption would be:  Under six months, NONE.  6 month to 3 years, 0.33 liter.  3 to 6 years, 0.66 liter.  6 to 16 years 1.33 liter.

For infants, the ADA Facts Table 3 indicates that "adequate intake" would be 0.01 mg per day.  An infant where water is fluoridated to 0.7 mg/L (the standard) would reach the "adequate" level by consuming around 15 ml of tap water during the day.  The apparent ADA "tolerable upper intake" (they don't use the word danger) level for chronic exposure of infants, 0.7 mg, would be reached by drinking only one full liter per day.  Note that if you are using fluoridated water for cooking, since the fluoride is in the form of a salt dissolved in the water, as the water evaporates the fluoride remains in increased concentration.  Logically the same concentrating occurs if the locations that grow or process foods are using fluoridated water. 
In warm weather, even with air conditioning, children and/or adults, 3 or 4 liters of water consumed per day would not be unusual.  Four liters would provide 2.8 mg of fluoride, which exceeds the "adequate intake" for everyone up until age 19, and exceeds the "tolerable upper intake" for everyone up to age 9.  Does this mean no one under the age of 9 should consume tap water fluoridated at 0.7 mg/L? 

Note, per the ADA the primary benefit to teeth of fluoride in water takes place before the tooth leaves the gums. (Fluoride in the blood)  In general, the permanent teeth are erupting by age six, and are therefore outside of the purported greatest benefit of fluoridated water.  If moderate consumption of 0.7 mg/L water exceeds the "tolerable upper intake" for those under nine, what is it we are doing for the children, or better phrased, what are we doing to the children?  There are other sources of warning regarding fluoridation. 


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Re: The Fluoride In Your Tap Water
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 10:29:51 pm »
Fluoride to prevent tooth decay is plain BS.  I remember as a little kid hearing about this
in the 50's  If  indeed the fluoride worked, where would the need be for dentist today other than teeth being knocked out for one reason or other?
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Re: The Fluoride In Your Tap Water
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 10:37:17 pm »
The daughter wrote a paper for college chemistry on fluoride, showing even the American Dental Association (ADA) data cannot support ADA claims re fluoride in the water… or toothpaste…  professor not too happy… 

The ADA insists that drinking fluoridated water is good for our teeth… telling us, "Water that has been fortified with fluoride is similar to fortifying salt with iodine, milk with vitamin D and orange juice with vitamin C."  One should note however that while the human body has a natural biological need for iodine, vitamin D and vitamin C to be capable of functioning properly, there is no showing that life processes need water fortified with fluoride to function. 

While the ADA condones giving fluoridated water to infants and children, to gain the pre-eruptive protection benefits, we must look at their tables in their own document Fluoride Facts, available at www.ada.com.

In Table 1, the ADA presents an apparent recommend daily diet supplement of fluoride if the water does not contain recommended fluoridation levels.  Looking at the first column of Fluoride ion levels in drinking water, we can make a logical assumption that <0.3 ppm includes the situation where the water contains no fluoride.  If this is accepted as a valid assumption, then translating the per age ADA recommendations in the column to daily consumption in liters of water fluoridated to a level of 0.7 mg/L (typical) we find that the recommended consumption would be:  Under six months, NONE.  6 month to 3 years, 0.33 liter.  3 to 6 years, 0.66 liter.  6 to 16 years 1.33 liter.

For infants, the ADA Facts Table 3 indicates that "adequate intake" would be 0.01 mg per day.  An infant where water is fluoridated to 0.7 mg/L (the standard) would reach the "adequate" level by consuming around 15 ml of tap water during the day.  The apparent ADA "tolerable upper intake" (they don't use the word danger) level for chronic exposure of infants, 0.7 mg, would be reached by drinking only one full liter per day.  Note that if you are using fluoridated water for cooking, since the fluoride is in the form of a salt dissolved in the water, as the water evaporates the fluoride remains in increased concentration.  Logically the same concentrating occurs if the locations that grow or process foods are using fluoridated water. 
In warm weather, even with air conditioning, children and/or adults, 3 or 4 liters of water consumed per day would not be unusual.  Four liters would provide 2.8 mg of fluoride, which exceeds the "adequate intake" for everyone up until age 19, and exceeds the "tolerable upper intake" for everyone up to age 9.  Does this mean no one under the age of 9 should consume tap water fluoridated at 0.7 mg/L? 

Note, per the ADA the primary benefit to teeth of fluoride in water takes place before the tooth leaves the gums. (Fluoride in the blood)  In general, the permanent teeth are erupting by age six, and are therefore outside of the purported greatest benefit of fluoridated water.  If moderate consumption of 0.7 mg/L water exceeds the "tolerable upper intake" for those under nine, what is it we are doing for the children, or better phrased, what are we doing to the children?  There are other sources of warning regarding fluoridation. 




Here is the MSDS Sheet for Sodium Fluoride
https://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927595
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Re: The Fluoride In Your Tap Water
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 10:45:09 pm »
Can you please find a link for all Australian citys/towns? I can't find one, thanks.