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« Reply #240 on: October 15, 2008, 08:59:54 am »
great work guys, lots of thought provoking stuff re 9-11 and old skool UFO comics - not quite as new a concept as we like to think
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« Reply #241 on: October 15, 2008, 11:07:31 am »

Good work 37 getting that SUPERMAN article up. Those coincidence theorists were having a field day with that one, huh? Check out this SUPERMAN cover from 1959 - and then I will continue with some more pre-War items and through the "Big Flap" year of 1952.

U n i d e n t i f i e d  F l y i n g  O b j e c t s


From 1959 - Superman battles the UFO 'futuremen' in the year 2000.

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From 1915 - Pyramids, beams and flying saucers.



H. G. Wells War of the Worlds - pre-Radio scare - in 1927



1940 - Space Conquerers attack New York.



May 1947, about 3 months before Roswell - what is it?



UFO attack from 1948.



Pulp paperback from 1950 - KÒÓL art! They look like Atlanta police today!



A 1950 look at some UFO cases - paperback.



1950 - He says, "The Air Force flatly denies the existence of the flying saucers - utter nonsence! Poppy-cock!"



From 1950 - saucers and little green men in the desert near Roswell - hmmm.



Great 1952 paperback cover arts strikes fear into the hearts of men - and ladies.



1952 - this rings a lot of bells for me.



Paperback from 1952 - another Flyin' Triangle.

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« Reply #242 on: October 15, 2008, 01:03:11 pm »
Superman 596 is indeed an astounding find, and it is an issue I wish to get ahold of soon.

Jackson, that Superman cover is hillarious! And I loved the pulp covers. They always seem to ba attacking Washington or New York don't they?


Check out Action Comics 469. It has the twin towers in it, and it is possibly the most homo-erotic Superman cover of all time.






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« Reply #243 on: October 15, 2008, 01:17:55 pm »
I notice that the 1915 comic by HG Wells (War of the Worlds) also contains a storyline by Julian Huxley, a major NWO thinker and founding member of UNESCO - brainwashing the world's kids to 'serve the needs of society' - Sub-X did a great thread on that somewhere on this forum.

now I wonder why he would be writing UFO comic stories, his uncle was the famosu author not him, I guess it would be to play a part in the conditioning process perhaps in preparation for a blue beam even, or perhaps just to aid in the distraction process, have peopel chasing fairy tales and not facing the real enemy

(not that UFO's are definitely all human in origin, but clearly the field of research is packed jam filled with lots of disinfo designed to distract from the real problems and enemy)
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« Reply #244 on: October 16, 2008, 10:49:01 pm »


From Girl Genius Online by Phil and Kaja Foglio

Panel 1 has a pyramid with an all seeing eye as part of the architecture of the bridge they're on.  The storyline of the comic itself takes place in a steampunk world where there is a group of genetically superior "Sparks" who are extremely gifted with machines. The main character seems to be the last decendant of a super-race of "Heterodynes."

I still read it, though, because I like the artwork, and some of the jokes are pretty funny. :)

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« Reply #245 on: October 17, 2008, 12:58:31 pm »

Biggs:

You’re right - all the names you would expect were writing this stuff back in the day. It would be a good project to track down some of these other bylines ... I would bet a lot of them are ghost names - and a list of the publishers/owners would be a nice thing to have as well.

What I am trying to get to here is what the heck is this all about? How much of the UFO phenomenon is 'real' and how much is Illuminati mind-control?

Did the CIA/NASA usurp a popular science fiction theme from the turn-of-the-century with which to further their Space Gods / Great White Brotherhood gobble-de-goop? Did they control both sides of the 'UFO question' for all these decades? Or ... are the UFOs actually ET, and TPTB are de-bunking it with this pop-culture stuff to hide/dilute a secret collaboration w/ET?

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T H E   E I S E N H O W E R   E R A

This was the post-War decade ... the ATOMIC age ... the Korean War ... Ike & Nixon ... blue suede shoes ... trans~Atlantic jet flights ... CIA & MJ12 ... Sputnik ... Khrushchev ... John Glenn ... Invasion of the Body Snatchers ... Telestar ... and Flying Saucers. The imagery and the mythology built on the earlier publications and was fueled by the reported sightings, apparent Government/Illuminati dis-info and ... well, just the iresistable fun of it all!

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1950 - First UFO book by Donald Keyhoe, later of PROJECT BLUEBOOK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Keyhoe
http://hubpages.com/hub/Unidentified-Flying-Objects



1953 - BE AFRAID - 'they' are pissed at us about the BOMB!



From 1953 - Cosmic Space~Dragon glorified by HOLLYWOOD



In 1956 - The AIR FORCE reveals OUR Flying Saucer - WTF?



1956 pulp mag with Citadel of the Star Lords - and mind control beams


From 1956 - Texas sighting and capsizing Earth - pole flip?



More New York Harbor saucers from 1957 - what pilots a UFO?



A UFO 'research' mag from 1958.



1958 SAUCERIAN BULLETIN - death rays from above. OK.



THE EYE IN SPACE - 1958. Are 'they' trying to tell us something?



1959 - "They're invincible. We haven't a chance."



1959, from the TV show - abductions.

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« Reply #246 on: October 17, 2008, 11:30:44 pm »
Good stuff Jackson. Check this out.

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search?q=mars+face



Jack Kirby wrote this comic in 1958, 18 years before the Viking satelite photo of the face on Mars!

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« Reply #247 on: October 17, 2008, 11:40:11 pm »
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Jack Kirby wrote this comic in 1958, 18 years before the Viking satelite photo of the face on Mars!

Wow. Just... wow. THAT is very cool. I've always been skeptical that it was really a face on Mars, but this is compelling.

And I just have to ask - are you guys the worlds biggest comic book geeks, or is there a place online you're finding these images? I'm astounded by all the amazing old comics you're digging up.  I say "comic book geeks" with respect, by the way. It's a hobby I shared in a limited way (just the Batman titles in the early '90s, actually - Norm Breyfogle at his best).

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« Reply #248 on: October 18, 2008, 08:24:39 am »
This thread was inspired partly by the work of Jake Kotze and Chris Knowles.

http://rundonotwalk.blogspot.com/
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/

Having a large collection myself, I found several references to 9-11 in comics, and after starting this thread many others joined in. In order to reach a larger audience, I started a blog.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/

After starting the blog, many others came forth with 911 syncs that I was not aware of. And yes, I am a geek. :D


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« Reply #249 on: October 18, 2008, 11:59:15 am »
Jackson - I agree that man of these stories could well have been ghost written and in fact the proportion of NWO writers could indeed be far greater than is at first apparant.
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« Reply #250 on: October 18, 2008, 02:09:05 pm »
T H E  P I V O T A L  1 9 6 0s

JFK and LSD ... Man on the Moon in ten years ... the Beatles ...
Space Race/Cold War ... Political Assassinations ... Vietnam ... CIA & the American Empire ... total TV dominance / Main Frames / Communication Satellites ... Approach of 1984, literally and figuratively.

The UFO phenomenon takes on a new aura - Hollywood. STAR TREK ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek ) and 2001: A Space Odyssey ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_trivia ) ... the two godfather/precursors of the onslaught to come ... the complete tsunami of sci-fi/space-gods mythology about to smother the planet.

Reported sightings continue unabated  ( http://www.ufocasebook.com/Hill.html ) - there were government reports on UFOs - research groups all over the place - MSM tell-alls ... and Space Gods ... with Erich von Daniken leading the way ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Däniken ). It was during this decade that the Utopian/Theosophy Space~God dream really gained mainstream appeal. ( http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/index.htm ). Not that the FEAR of the little green men was not emphasized ... it was ... but the Space Brotherhood of Hunt, Bailey, Adamski, et al gained serious ground.
 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hunt_Williamson ).

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From 1960 - "Look up at the sky ... it is filled with wonder for us all. Don't blind yourself with antiquated opinions and Earthbound cliches! Look as I do, Look and believe!"



Adolph Hitler with a saucer and little green men - BLACK MAGIC comic, 1960.



1960 - America's favorite comic hero is no match for the UFO invaders!
http://books.google.com/books?id=B9FRwgBX0DEC&pg=PA115&lpg=
PA115&dq=the+superman+ouspensky&source=bl&ots=zE2qA-D-a5&sig=
H6j7WnpE6lp-T0T-OOrrkP0NVm8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result




1960 - There was apparently a good bit of "Skunk Working" (back engineering?) going on - some serious, some diversionary.



One of many such Psychic/Religio/UFO treatises published around this time - 1960.



1960 paperback - trying to make sense of stuff like this:
http://www.footagefarm.co.uk/Footage%20Farm%20website/Web%20lists/UFOs-Flying%20Saucers.htm



1960 Paperback - notice that change? Now it's the gods ... not scary aliens.



1961 - SPACE WAR comic - the coming War With The Gods.



From 1963 - NOT a new concept folks.



Another prayerful booklet - 1964.



A 1966 book debunks the debunkers.
http://robert-barrow.blogspot.com/2007/08/dr-leon-davidson-and-blue-books-bounty.html



1967 - "The CIA and the Little Green Men".



1967 - By this date ... two years before man-on-the-moon ...
a fully conceived reptilian space god image and I assume, story.


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« Reply #251 on: October 20, 2008, 01:00:46 pm »


~O~  1970s: Looking For GOD In All The Wrong Places  ~O~


Nixon & Watergate ... Nascent NeoCons & Tri-Laterals ... Kissinger ... more war, of course. This was pre-PC, Heathkits notwithstanding ... an undercurrent of awakening, dubbed Conspiracy Theory by the media ... Arthur C. Clarke, moon-walking, Dead Sea Scrolls, societal degradation, Hyneck (http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/wizardfl/HYNEK.html), Billy Meier, Freaks & Straights ... Pascagoula (http://www.ufologie.net/htm/pascagoula.htm) ...  Stadium Rock & Disco ... Pantheism/the Greening of America ... EPA ... gas lines ... Jimmy Who?

Stanton Friedman breaks the Roswell story: ( http://www.stantonfriedman.com/ ).

UFO mythology and imagery becomes evermore prevalent throughout pop culture ... morphing into an all-encompassing Sci-Fi vengeful God zeitgeist. 
Theosophical~Millennium fever sets in ... the coming battle for Jerusalem becomes evident ... we jump on board the Hollywood God Chariot and zoom right into the latter years of the decade ~ Close Encounters of the Third Kind ~ ET: The Extraterrestrial ~ Star Trek ~ Battlestar Galactica ~ and of course, the ultimate leap into hyperspace: STAR WARS.

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Ancient Space-God Cult novel ~ 1974.



1974 ~ More Illuminati/Theosophical UFO tie-ins with you know who.



An off-the-shelf comic from 1975 ~ they are coming for you!



MAN-GODS ... who walked Earth before time began ... 1975.



A Baptist Church publication ... they knew. Wish I could find a copy.



OK ... the 'watchers' are taking care of the eugenics business. 1976.



1977 - pulp in español. Religion of the UFOs (Ovnis).


A "Close Encounter with Tomorrow's Gods and Demons". 1978.



1978 - The UFO decapitates the ben-ben from the world's largest obelisk.



1978 - With Cosmic Trigger - the secrets of the Illuminati revealed.
http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.shtml



I BELIEVE!! - paperback novel, 1979.

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« Reply #252 on: October 21, 2008, 05:58:16 am »
Great stuff once again Jackson. I was a child of the seventies, I remember the film Close encounters of the third Kind, as well as Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods". It's also when the first Star Wars and Star Trek movies came out, as well as the TV show Battlestar Galactica, which connected the UFO's with ancient Egypt.

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« Reply #253 on: October 23, 2008, 10:29:29 am »
(NOTE: The Photobucket image deleted in my last post is a paperback cover with a representation of Hitler and a swastica - go figure!)




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One of the great mysteries of our time is UFOs ... are they real, solid objects? Are they piloted by living beings? If so, who ... and do they mean us harm? If they are not piloted objects, then what? Pure imagination? Mass hypnotism/hysteria? Hoaxes? Governmental dis-info? All of the above?

Whatever the answers to these questions are, it is easy to see that the pop culture of the US and much of the world is, at this point, saturated by UFO lore and its off-shoots, unrelenting imaginative ‘science fiction’ everywhere you look. Probably a majority of people alive in the US today were born since the mid-seventies, when the high tech blockbuster sci-fi industry really took off. They cannot imagine a world without this overlay of ‘science fiction’.
(http://m1.aol.com/prydonians/top100.html)

What would the world look like today if not for Star Wars, for instance, or The Matrix, or Blade Runner ... or video/computer games ... what would our architecture look like, for instance? Or automobiles? Would we be the same creatures we are today without the esoteric sci-fi framework? How much of our core being has been shaped by the onslaught of this sophisticated Electro~Hollywood Sci-Fi?
(http://scifidrive.com/2008/02/20/evolution-of-science-fiction-cinema-the-early-20th-century/)

(http://www.unomaha.edu/jrf/paradiso.htm)

Some among us imagined the future ... and it came to pass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_magazine

http://www.stationlink.com/pulpdom/pulphist.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction

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Here I would like to refer you to two of my earlier posts which may help to tie these thoughts together ... or not!

This links to a George Hunt Williamson 1950 book SECRET OF THE ANDES ... very theosophical ... helps to get a handle on all this Space Brotherhood / NWO / New Age claptrap:

http://digitalseance.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/
secret-of-the-andes-george-hunt-williamson/


http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=24746.msg263602#msg263602

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See “Rancher Memo” ... plain weird. Truth or Bluebeam:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=57160.msg312586#msg312586

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More Theosophy info:

http://www.lukemastin.com/utopia/index.html


The Theosophical Emblem


http://www.ts-adyar.org/emblem.html

http://theosophy.org/

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Sci~Fi Overlords

So ... who are the writers of all this UFO / SPACE GOD Sci-Fi? Who published it? Should we suspect the usual culprits ... the elite / bluebloods who are intent on a scheme of esoteric / Satanic brain~washing of the masses??

First let’s take a look at some of the recurring names from the ‘Golden Age’. First and foremost is Hugo Gernsback, from whose name we get the “Hugo Awards” for sci-fi excellence.

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http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues/2004-10-01/feature1/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gernsback

Hugo Gernsback

Born in Luxembourg City, Gernsback emigrated to the United States in 1905 and later became a naturalized citizen. He married three times: to Rose Harvey in 1906, Dorothy Kantrowitz in 1921, and Mary Hancher in 1951. In 1925, Hugo founded radio station WRNY and was involved in the first television broadcasts. He is also considered a pioneer in amateur radio.

Gernsback started the modern genre of science fiction by founding the first magazine dedicated to it, Amazing Stories, in 1926. He said he became interested in the concept after reading a translation of the work of Percival Lowell as a child. He also played a key role in starting science fiction fandom, by publishing the addresses of people who wrote letters to his magazines. In 1929, he lost ownership of his first magazines after a bankruptcy lawsuit. There is some debate about whether this process was genuine, manipulated by publisher Bernarr Macfadden, or was a Gernsback scheme to begin another company.

After losing control of Amazing Stories, Gernsback founded two new science fiction magazines, Science Wonder Stories and Air Wonder Stories. A year later, due to Depression-era financial troubles, the two were merged together into Wonder Stories, which Gernsback continued to publish until 1936, when it was sold to Thrilling Publications and renamed Thrilling Wonder Stories. Gernsback was noted for sharp (and sometimes shady) business practices,[2] and for paying his writers extremely low fees.[3] H. P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith referred to him as "Hugo the Rat."[4] Gernsback returned in 1952-53 with Science-Fiction Plus.

Gernsback wrote some fiction, including the novel Ralph 124C 41+ in 1911 (the title was a pun of the phrase "one to foresee for one"). Though hugely influential at the time, and filled with numerous science fiction ideas, the plot, characters, and writing strike most modern readers as shallow and old-fashioned.

The Science Fiction Achievement awards, given to various works each year by vote of the members of the World Science Fiction Society, are named the "Hugos" after him. He was one of 1996's inaugural inductees into the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame.

Before creating a literary genre, Gernsback was an entrepreneur in the electronics industry, importing radio parts from Europe to the United States and helping to popularize amateur "wireless". In April 1908 founded Modern Electrics, the world's first magazine about electronics. Under its auspices, in January 1909, he founded the Wireless Association of America, which had 10,000 members within a year. In 1912, Gernsback said that he estimated 400,000 people in the U.S. were involved in amateur radio. In 1913, he founded a similar magazine, The Electrical Experimenter, which became Science and Invention in 1920. It was in these magazines that he began including scientific fiction stories alongside science journalism.

Gernsback held 80 patents by the time of his death in New York City on August 19, 1967.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Oak_Crown

Gernsback was the recipient of the ORDER OF THE OAK CROWN, along with other luminaries: Alphonse Berns - Charles, Count of Limburg Stirum - Charles, Prince of Wales - Dennis Hastert - Jean Hengen - Henry J. Leir - Astrid Lulling - Otto Schily - Émile Servais - Joseph Weyland and many others.


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Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
« Reply #254 on: October 28, 2008, 12:14:21 pm »

~O~   I N D U S T R I A L   L I G H T   &   M A G I C   ~O~


Palpatine / Emperor

Now let's take a look at one of the movie moguls of the late 20th early 21st Century - the guy who gave us Star Wars and so much more - and, of course, we are talking about GEORGE LUCAS. Volumes have been written about the Star Wars series - just what it means to our society and culture - the New Age/Theosophy angle apparent to many people - the connection to the UN / New World Religion agenda - the Masonic / Illuminati cult tie-ins - and the Space/God UFO Brotherhood connections that I am attempting to explore in this thread.

I will post a number of links here and I hope you will check them out. I can't speak to the truthfulness of all the links, though I have read through them all and I have watched the videos. Some of the info/opinion is stunning - some was written years ago - some recently. But it will help, no doubt, to shed a little Light on some of the Magic.

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The Religious Affiliation of Director George Lucas
http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html

"The Force wasn't mentioned in the script's first drafts. It first appeared in the Second Draft of January 1975, a year after Lucas started writing. People in early scripts occasionally say 'May the force be with you' instead of 'Good luck,' but what force is never mentioned. Lucas himself didn't begin expounding on the Force until well after the film's release. In 1977, he was still saying vaguely, 'The Force is really a way of seeing, it's a way of being with life.' All evidence suggests that the secret of Star Wars' extraordinary longevity and the fidelity of its following, indeed the basis of George Lucas's later near-guru status, was an afterthought.

It was the season of psychedelia, of dope, of gurus so wise they could change your life. Visitors to San Anselmo carried creeds with them like dust on their shoes. They pressed copies of Carlos Castaneda and Khalil Gibran into Lucas's hands, along with texts from the Hare Krishnas, the Scientologists, the Moonies, and fashionable sf novels, like Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land, about a charismatic sect whose adherents indulge in ritual cannibalism. Someone told him about The Hero with a Thousand Faces, by anthropologist Joseph Campbell, though apparently Lucas never read it, but heard some extracts on an audiotape in his ear. "

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The Sith Have Taken over the U.S.
by Doug Yurchey, May 27, 2005

http://www.illuminati-news.com/sith-takeover.htm

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Yoda, The Great Masonic Teacher

In FREEMASONRY, there is a High teacher called "Yoda."

http://warrman.blogspot.com/2006/05/yoda-great-masonic-teacher.html

http://www.factology.com/20020629.htm

http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/990528/force.shtml

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Lucasfilms and the San Francisco Presidio Gang



Star Wars joins United Religions at the Presidio

by Berit Kjos [1999]

        San Francisco’s spectacular army base was built to defend America. It has become an open door to forces that would destroy our freedom, sovereignty, and values.

The "Force" is with George Lucas. Literally. Trouncing his competitors, the master of movie magic won the coveted right to build his Star Wars empire on 23 acres of the Presidio, the former army base overlooking the Golden Gate bridge. Lucasfilm and Lucas Learning Ltd. will share this prize piece of San Francisco real estate with the Gorbachev Foundation, the Thoreau Center for Sustainability, FEMA, the United Religions Initiative (URI), the United Nations Resource Center, and a host of other environmental, spiritual, educational, and governmental organizations.1  Together they share a common crusade: to build a unified, earth-friendly global civilization based on "new" universal beliefs and values.

While Christianity clashes, the "Force" fits well. Some might even compare the Presidio’s elite guardians of the planet with the heroic Jedi of the Star Wars galaxy. In Lucasfilm’s popular children’s book, I Am a Jedi, Qui-Gon Jinn (Liam Neeson) tells us in his own words, "The Jedi are a very special group of beings. For many thousands of years, we have worked to promote peace and justice in the universe."

Noble words! The last part could be spoken by any UN or UR visionary. The Star Wars ideal could well be the Presidio vision on a cosmic scale.

The spiritual part fits as well. "We draw our strength from a mysterious power called the Force," continues the Jedi Knight. This Force is a "form of energy that connects all living things. We Jedi learn to be sensitive to the Force. It is a source of great strength."

George Lucas will surely add strength to the entire Presidio project. His universal power source provides a perfect model for the new global spirituality needed as a foundation for the planetary oneness. His Digital Arts Center with its out-of-this-world technology can make mind-changing fantasies seem more real than reality. His proposal for commercial development of the land will help make the Presidio self-sufficient. And his Lucas Learning Ltd. will communicate his politically correct message through schools, video games, and computers everywhere.

THE PRESIDIO VISION. The Presidio Alliance plans to turn the old army base into "a global center for sustainability." It's goals include "forums for dialogue" and "education programs and workshops on sustainability." If you wonder what that last word means, it's not simply "to meet the needs of the present, without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their needs." To insiders, it means the 3 E's: Environment, Economy, and Equity: using the environmental crisis as the excuse needed to persuade the masses to conform to the new global values and the redistribution of resources (new economy) in order to establish social equality."

MORE: http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/starwar6-99.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/20/movies/20pres.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/06-may/o36lucas.html

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The Nancy Pelosi / Presidio Connection:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ans-cover-news111506.htm

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The UN / United Religions Initiative / Gorbachev Foundation: NEW WORLD RELIGION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guUKh7GuTVg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnMUT9ZyhiQ&feature=related

http://www.ifg.org/

http://astro.temple.edu/~dialogue/geth.htm

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-Gorbachev-PresidiumtoPresidio.htm

http://www.uri.org/



~~~ And Finally: What makes the light: Star Wars Unveiled ~~~

http://www.truveo.com/What-makes-the-lightStar-Wars-Unveiled-18/id/63868532

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« Reply #255 on: October 29, 2008, 01:15:37 am »
~~~ And Finally: What makes the light: Star Wars Unveiled ~~~

http://www.truveo.com/What-makes-the-lightStar-Wars-Unveiled-18/id/63868532

Oh thanks! That's my work :)

Here's the latest version of that series
What makes the light: Final Edition http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4

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« Reply #256 on: October 29, 2008, 07:37:03 am »
GoingEtheric:

You did that video man???  That is one piece of great work. Very insightful and right on the money. It must have taken forever to research and produce that. I will watch the updated version today.

It is amazing how intertwined the media/Hollywood product is - and how much  New Age religion is "embedded". I'm learning a lot just doing this little bit of work on this comic series.

Thank you - I am humbled.
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« Reply #257 on: October 29, 2008, 01:47:45 pm »
Oh thanks! That's my work :)

Here's the latest version of that series
What makes the light: Final Edition http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4
Yeah Star Wars unveiled is mine. As for research, I pretty much had to watch all 6 star wars like 5 times. Glad you appreciate it, cause I STILL get messages to my youTube account detailing what a dumbass I am :)

Star Wars isn't alone anymore, since Star Wars Unveiled, the latest "The man who would be king" illuminist offenders are: The Simpsons, the matrix, harry potter, The road to el dorado ( The most shameless retelling you've ever seen ), and stargate.

I'm learning a lot on this thread too. Your posts above were good. That's why I keep coming back. I happen to know that most comic book writers are insiders as well. I think Hollywood is like any other sector of the Illuminati, in that they must tell us the truth on some level.

Yes, it is amazing how much of Hollywood is in on it.

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« Reply #258 on: October 29, 2008, 03:09:11 pm »
great work GoingEtheric, and I agree this thread is top class from beginning to end
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« Reply #259 on: October 29, 2008, 04:00:22 pm »
great work GoingEtheric, and I agree this thread is top class from beginning to end
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« Reply #260 on: October 30, 2008, 11:40:14 am »



From 1987: .... well, are we?

~~ O ~~   The 1980s: COMMUNION with the FORCE   ~~ O ~~


Ronald Reagan

http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Bz6Dkl84k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KvC_NDlHoI&feature=related

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1981 Book cover:  http://standeyo.com/Our_Books/Cosmic_Conspiracy.html



1980: The Twin Towers are in their sights.



1980: About a decade before David Icke's first books appeared.



1981: http://www.alternativkanalen.com/rune/janos2a.html



1981: Pop~Psych.


1982: Our old friend, still battling those pesky aliens!



1984: George Orwell anyone? More Synchronicity?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(science_fiction)



1985: More reptoid aliens on the "V" series.



1987: Whitley Strieber's #1 Bestseller.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(book)
http://www.beyondcommunion.com/communion/870305sfe.html
unknowncountry.com



1988: Comic-book knock~off of the cattle mutilation phenomenon.

~~~~~
Linda Moulton-Howe
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/shadowlands/6583/cattle019.html
earthfiles.com
~~~~~



1988: John Lennon's Close Encounter ...



1989: Atlantis Space Brotherhood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Atlantis_(documentary)#Part_
One:_Dawn_of_the_Gods_.28ISBN_3-931695-11-5_.26_
ISBN_10:__0701113324.29


The video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSAGv4kUgk

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/index.htm



1989: Covering the Majestic Documents - back in the day.

majesticdocuments.com

~~~~~ O ~~~~

THE RAPTURE ~~~ BLUEBEAM Style:

Only Those Who Prepare Themselves, Can Be Evacuated Into Places Of Refuge...

The information I am sharing here will be very instrumental in helping us to understand much more about this concept termed "The Rapture". According to this information, this concept is an option that can be used during an emergency evacuation operation where time has run out, and it cannot be done any other way(verses a mass landing).

In that case, the "Ashtar Command" under the commission of the "Galactic Federation Of Light" has the technology to beam-up people by the millions within 15 minutes of being alerted of a disaster. The technology they can use is called "Levitation Beam Technology".

This information was released to the public back in the 1980's, and it was their plan at that time to use this procedure as part of their main plan of evacuation. Apparently, these plans have changed since then. And the main plan now is to orchestrate a mass landing with the cooperation of governments all over the world, socialize with earth humans and directly get involved over several months with helping us make the smooth transition of being evacuated(by walking on the craft) and living among them in a new civilization until the earth changing disasters are finished.

At that time, we will be brought back to live on the surface again. This whole thing is like a massive chess game between the Light & the Dark forces that are fighting over the souls of mankind. When one side makes a move, the other one has to match it. All plans have to be fluid, with contingency plans put in place. But the satans will lose this war and be destroyed.




They are many but they are one in wickedness, just like God and his sons & daughters on this planet and from other worlds are one in righteousness. Although their plan at this time is to orchestrate a mass landing, they may have to revert back to their original plan. We will be aware of both plans, they may have to use both of them according to what is happening in different parts of the planet. Time is a main factor. All of this has to be accomplished before all the disasters begin to fall on the earth at the same time. Those who are fearful & spiritually unfit because they have not prepared themselves with the truth, cannot be evacuated. You must be sealed by the truth you have learned to live in the endtimes.

MORE HERE:  http://josephalmighty.multiply.com/journal/item/283

~~~~~ O ~~~~~


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« Reply #261 on: October 30, 2008, 11:59:00 am »
An article I wrote a few months ago.

http://intelstrike.com/?p=202

Marvel Comics: Vehicle For The New World Order
By: Ethan Allen - 14 February, 2008
Captain America is dead. True American patriotism is out, globalism is in. Changes in Marvel Comics superhero archetypes now suggest a turn away from truth, justice and the American way, and a move towards environmentalism, multi-cultural propaganda, and globalist agendas.Marvel Comics has now joined forces with the United Nations, both in order to polish its image, and to introduce more globalist imagery and ideas into the public conscience.

“In a move reminiscent of storylines developed during the second world war, the UN is joining forces with Marvel Comics, creators of Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk, to create a comic book showing the international body working with superheroes to solve bloody conflicts and rid the world of disease. The comic, initially to be distributed free to one million US schoolchildren, will be set in a war-torn fictional country and feature superheroes such as Spider-Man working with UN agencies such as Unicef and the “blue hats”, the UN peacekeepers.”

Marvel Comics was once run by Stan Lee, and Stan Lee is has his own ties with behind the scenes political dealings. During Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senatorial run, Stan Lee’s company, Stan Lee Media, was tied in a campaign finance scandal with Stan Lee’s friend, Peter Paul. Here’s a clip from 2005 where Stan Lee denies putting money into Clinton’s coffers.

Another example of politics intruding into the world of superheroes is a well known story of how the U.S. Department of Health approached Marvel Comics in 1971 to do a PSA-style issue of a Spiderman comic where Spiderman warns kids about drug abuse.

Whatever Lee’s intentions on who gets elected, certainly his media enterprises such as Stan Lee media and Marvel Comics are being influenced by politics, current events, and the globalist agenda.

Dozens of action figure lines, comic books, and movie franchises popular with kids are being changed over from fighting generic bad guys and defending American values to fighting for the blue helmeted thugs of the United Nations. In fact, the popular 80s cartoon G.I.Joe has now been retrofitted with an intro, erasing the ‘All American Hero’ title with ‘International Hero’. The globalists know that media can be a powerful tool in changing hearts and minds, and the hearts and minds of our children are now in the crosshairs of genocidal madmen and power hungry tyrants.

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« Reply #262 on: October 30, 2008, 04:43:34 pm »
ETHANALLEN:

Very nice article ... well written. And I had forgotten all about that Stan Lee episode with the Clintons! I'm finding all sorts of propaganda in Comics and pulp ... TPTB certainly latched onto the genre as a perfect doorway into young (and not so young) minds. Comics lend a framework of irresistible imagery to their favorite NWO dis-info themes.
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« Reply #263 on: November 01, 2008, 09:20:58 pm »
Check it out.

http://www.rense.com/general83/911sc.htm

The pic used in the article is from my copy of Marvel Two-In-One #100! I can tell from the crooked angle of the towers. It was originally posted in this thread a couple of pages back. I guess this information can go viral!

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« Reply #264 on: November 02, 2008, 01:45:36 pm »
Reptilians for Obama.


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« Reply #265 on: November 08, 2008, 02:10:47 am »
Notice this picture .See the terrorsit passport ? Is That a pyramid with eye? And is that a Pentagon on the left?whats underneath?
does anyone have a source for this photo?


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« Reply #266 on: November 10, 2008, 01:20:11 pm »



~ O ~   1 9 9 0 s: M I L L E N N I U M  F E V E R   ~ O ~

Continuing now with my look at UFO Mythology & Imagery (in Comics and Pop Culture 'pulp') and it's morphing into NWO, Theosophical and Bluebeam Propaganda. I began with the first decades of the twentieth century here, http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=23030.200, and we have moved decade-by-decade, with book cover art, commentary and lots of links that I hope you check out.

~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~

President George H. W. Bush made his famous New World Order speech before the United Nations on the propitious date of September 11, 1990 - a fitting way to start the decade I would say. The crash of the Soviet Union was just behind us ... personal computers were becoming commonplace and the INTERNET was starting to take over the world. Crop Circles. We saw DESERT STORM on TV, sort of ... went ga-ga over the man from Hope ... and heard ALL about that blue dress.

We felt in our bones that Armageddon was just around the corner. The Messiah (name one) was due to descend from the clouds and land on the Temple Mount any day now! We were bombarded constantly with high-tech propaganda and brain-washing ... and hardly anyone was conscious of it. We sat in front of our Science Fiction-saturated TVs and the Mall Big Screens, dumbed-down and dumbfounded ... we plugged into the Hollywood Myth Machine ... we reveled in our decadence and participated, like benumbed teenaged gamers, in the Illuminati Video Game Wars for profit.

It was brain dead Millennium Fever at Y2K.

~~~~~~~~~  ~O~  ~O~ ~~~~~~~~~~


1991: Alien Nation ... that about says it all.



1991: Huumm ... we'll leave Rock 'n Roll and UFOs for another day.



1992: More Unidentified Flying Reptiles rippin' the hell outa Metropolis!



1993: New Age Theosophy rag ... Project World Evacuation ... mass EXODUS by Y2K.



1993: Remember this show? Lotsa Alien Nation programming. Ready for that Quantum Leap?



1995: Paperback cover ... Aliens, the Final Solution Answer.



1995: More of those pesky triangles ...



1995: New Age Theosophical bullsh*t paperback - from two of the leaders.

http://digitalseance.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/secret-of-the-andes-george-hunt-williamson/
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm



1996: Comic cover ... the Grey Alien God holds the Earth in his hands.



1996: I'll let this comic cover represent the truckload of ROSWELL programming.



1997:  Aliens, babes and skyscrapers getting zapped.



1998:  Ground Zero ... messiah figure ... UFOs ... RUN!



1998:  The DARK KNIGHT is getting abducted ... isn't everybody?



1998: More conspiracies and attacks on DC. From SCHOLASTIC, the Harry Potter people.

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_hqdbh2
http://notquitecrunchyparent.blogspot.com/2007/11/making-sense-of-scholastic-books-that.html
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/495875/ion_media_networks_scholastic_nbc_universal_
corus_entertainment_and_classic/




1998: Paperback cover ... Bluebeam-style RAPTURE ... from Edgar Rothschild Fouche.

http://www.whale.to/b/fouche.html
http://altered-state.com/index2.htm?/neurosync/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech06.htm



1999: Turn-of-the-Millennium UFO Apocalypse.

http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/fall98/apocalypse.htm

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« Reply #267 on: November 15, 2008, 10:08:24 pm »
I just posted an article on Marvel Two In One #100 on my blog, with some extended story and pics.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/marvel-two-in-one-100-wtc-ruins-taken.html

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« Reply #268 on: November 16, 2008, 07:03:54 am »
I just posted an article on Marvel Two In One #100 on my blog, with some extended story and pics.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/marvel-two-in-one-100-wtc-ruins-taken.html

very interesting stuff, I suspect also that all these stories relating to serums changing people into 'things' or 'hulks' are conditioning for their transhumanist agenda which will at first come in the form of extreme drugs and genetic treatments to alter a person's vision & stamina improvements, kill without conscience, memory enhancers etc etc

then they will move onto genetically designed babies, bred for a specific purpose
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« Reply #269 on: November 16, 2008, 04:06:29 pm »

~ O ~ The WAR of the WORLDS ~ O ~

I would like to take a look now at English author H. G. Wells 1866-1946, generally considered the Grandfather of Science Fiction ... and in particular his timeless classic The War of the Worlds. Please do read some of his bio here linked, as you will find that he could very well be called the Grandfather of the New World Order as well.



http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/hgwells.htm

http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html

The Round Table

excerpt:
"Upon his appointment by Rothschild to chair Rhodes's secret society, Milner recruited a group of young men from Oxford and Tonybee Hall to assist him in organizing his administration of the new society. All were respected English Freemasons. Among them were Rudyard Kipling, Arthur Balfour, Lord Rothschild, and some Oxford College graduates known as "Milner's Kindergarten." In 1909, Milner's Kindergarten, with some other English Masons, founded the Round Table. The grandfather of all modern British Masonic "think tanks" was born.

Three powerful think tank offshoots of the Round Table are (1) the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), organized in 1919 in London; (2) the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), organized in 1921 in New York City; and (3) the Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR), organized in 1925 or the twelve countries holding territory in what today we call the Pacific Rim.

The initial assignment of the Round Table was not necessarily to destroy the political experiments of French Freemasonry, such as socialism and communism, but to cooperate with them for the advancement of the English Masonic conspiracy.

Some seven years before the organization of the Round Table, of which H.G. Wells would be a founding member, Wells explained the strategy by which aristocratic English Freemasonry would reach its goal of world dominion. He called it an "Open Conspiracy" as opposed to French Freemasonry's closed or secret conspiracy.

"The Open Conspiracy will appear first, I believe, as a conscious organization of intelligent and quite possibly in some cases wealthy men, as a movement having distinct social and political aims . . ."

H.G. Wells, previously a member of the socialist Fabian Society of England, was, according to the MacKenzies' history of The Fabians, "branching out into speculations about a new social order..." An elite group of Twelve Wise Men, which included [Bertrand] Russell and Wells, were selected as the "Co-Efficients" who met to discuss and formulate, "Ideas about racial improvement by selecting out the efficient...and [George Bernard] Shaw was working on these 'eugenic' notions in his new play Man and Superman. [Fabian and Co-Efficients co-founder] Beatrice Webb called it 'the most important of all questions, the breeding of the right sort of man..."

~~~~~ O ~~~~~

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm

Fiction as a Precursor to Fact:
Sci-fi "Predictive Programming" and the Emergent World Religion


excerpt:
"Thus, 'science fiction' is a means of conditioning the masses to accept future visions that the elite wish to tangibly enact. This process of gradual and subtle inculcation is dubbed "predictive programming." Hoffman elaborates: "Predictive programming works by means of the propagation of the illusion of an infallibly accurate vision of how the world is going to look in the future" (205). Also dubbed "sci-fi inevitabilism" by Hoffman, predictive programming is analogous to a virus that infects its hosts with the false belief that it is:

*Useless to resist central, establishment control.
*Or it posits a counter-cultural alternative to such control which is actually a counterfeit, covertly emanating from the establishment itself.
*That the blackening (pollution) of earth is as unavoidable as entropy.
*That extinction ('evolution") of the species is inevitable.
*That the reinhabitation of the earth by the "old gods" (Genesis 6:4), is our stellar scientific destiny. (8)

Memes (contagious ideas) are instilled through the circulation of "mass appeal" documents under the guise of "science fiction" literature. Once subsumed on a psychocognitive level, these memes become self-fulfilling prophecies, embraced by the masses and outwardly approximated through the efforts of the elite.

In addition to spreading virulent strains of thought, sci-fi has also been instrumental in the promulgation of Darwinism. For instance, the sci-fi literature of Freemason H.G. Wells would play an important role in promulgating the concept of evolution. J.P. Vernier reveals Wells' religious adherence to the concept of evolution and its inspiration on him as an author of science fiction:

“The impact of the theory of evolution on his [Wells'] mind is well known: it was first felt when he attended the Lectures of T.H. Huxley, at South Kensington, in 1884 and 1885, and, ten years later, evolution was to provide him with the fundamental theme of his "scientific romances" and of many of his short stories.”

- "Evolution as a Literary Theme in H.G. Wells's Science Fiction,"

~~~~~ O ~~~~~


The Young Herbert George Wells at the Turn-of-the-Century


1898 - Original illustration from the First Edition


1899 - Cover illustration from a very early edition.


1906 - Striking fear into the hearts of the stunned Victorian masses.


1913 - The imagery by now was pretty well established - featuring the horrific Tri-Pod Invaders.


1927 - fellow Theosopher/Publisher Hugo Gernback pushes Wells and Huxley.


1938 - Orson Welles (no relation) and the Radio Broadcast that proved to TPTB that an ET invasion, real or imagined, would send the people into contortions of fear.

http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds

The Technologies "prophesied" in The War of the Worlds
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/AuthorSpecNewsList.asp?BkNum=141


1955 - The imagery advances a step, with the invaders attacking 20th C soldier boys.


1964 - Paperback cover: total destruction.


1973 - Hey Martian! You wanna piece o' me!


1999 - SUPERMAN battling pretty much the same dudes from 1899!


2002 - The Tri-Pods on steroids, blowing up the ever-present NY skyscrapers.


2005 - Advert for the SPIELBERG remake, with Tom Cruise.


2008 - Advertisement for the current movie - THE INVASION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2008/03/war_of_the_worlds_2_by_c_thoma.html

~~~~~~ O ~~~~~~

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« Reply #270 on: November 16, 2008, 06:56:27 pm »
I know he often called for a new world order, but I've recently read "the Time Machine", and I must say that he was a very good writer.

The Orson Wells broadcast was very important to the controllers, it showed them the power of mass media.

He was portrayed in the film "Time After Time", where he chased Jack the Ripper to 1979 in a time machine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

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« Reply #271 on: November 16, 2008, 08:10:07 pm »
FORD:

Yes, he was a fantastic writer. I read War of the Worlds, Invisible Man, Time Machine ... and probably others ... way back when. And I never even was aware of his non-fiction political/ Utopian titles until I heard AJ talking about it one day. The Time Machine was remade in 2002 - here's a write up about that movie. I didn't see it - but I've seen the original many times.

We just have to remember that much of the "sci-fi" that we have grown up with has ulterior motives - and there is no good way to guard against it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-489653/Human-race-split-different-species.html

Human race will 'split into two different species'
By NIALL FIRTH
Last updated at 16:18 26 October 2007

The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist. 100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed.

The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000. The report claims that after they reach their peak around the year 3000 humans will begin to regress.
These humans will be between 6ft and 7ft tall and they will live up to 120 years.

"Physical features will be driven by indicators of health, youth and fertility that men and women have evolved to look for in potential mates," says the report, which suggests that advances in cosmetic surgery and other body modifying techniques will effectively homogenise our appearance.
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The ELOI - advanced EUGENICS man - from the 2002 movie.

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Men will have symmetrical facial features, deeper voices and bigger penises, according to Curry in a report commissioned for men's satellite TV channel Bravo.Women will all have glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts, according to Curry. Racial differences will be a thing of the past as interbreeding produces a single coffee-coloured skin tone.

The future for our descendants isn't all long life, perfect bodies and chiselled features, however. While humans will reach their peak in 1000 years' time, 10,000 years later our reliance on technology will have begun to dramatically change our appearance. Medicine will weaken our immune system and we will begin to appear more child-like.

Dr Curry said: "The report suggests that the future of man will be a story of the good, the bad and the ugly. While science and technology have the potential to create an ideal habitat for humanity over the next millennium, there is the possibility of a monumental genetic hangover over the subsequent millennia due to an over-reliance on technology reducing our natural capacity to resist disease, or our evolved ability to get along with each other.

"After that, things could get ugly, with the possible emergence of genetic 'haves' and 'have-nots'."

Dr Curry's theory may strike a chord with readers who have read H G Wells' classic novel The Time Machine, in particular his descriptions of the Eloi and the Morlock races. In the 1895 book, the human race has evolved into two distinct species, the highly intelligent and wealthy Eloi and the frightening, animalistic Morlock who are destined to work underground to keep the Eloi happy.


The frightening, animalistic Morlock as seen in the 1960 film version of the classic book - along with the blond / blue-eyed Eloi girl.

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« Reply #272 on: November 28, 2008, 02:51:48 pm »
I've talked about Justice League of America #40 in this thread before. I've just finished a more in depth analysis, with more pictures.

http://mercurysgarden.blogspot.com/2008/11/despero-why-dont-you-come-to-your.html

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« Reply #273 on: November 30, 2008, 08:32:43 am »
In Justice League #40, published in 1990, there is a panel which shows the WTC being destroyed. This is the back cover of that issue.

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« Reply #274 on: December 08, 2008, 03:39:28 pm »
Took the best ones [comics] from this thread, dated them, and made a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiKJaSDnjU

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Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
« Reply #275 on: December 08, 2008, 07:00:00 pm »
Polygraph Tests, The "Feminist Agenda" and Wonder Woman

What do Polygraph Tests, The Feminist Agenda and Wonder Woman have in common? Answer, William Moulton Marston.

William Moulton Marston had a part in the creation of all three. As well as being a teacher at the American University in Washington D.C. and Tufts University, Marston was also creator of the systolic blood-pressure test and Director of Public Services at Universal Studios and co-creator of the comic book character Wonder Woman. He was indeed a strange and fascinating man. Well worth the attention of anyone researching the NWO. His connection to Margaret Sanger is that he and his wife lived in a "polyamorous relationship" with Sanger's niece Olive Byrne Richard.






Dr. William Moulton Marston (May 9, 1893 – May 2, 1947) was an American psychologist, feminist theorist, inventor, and comic book author who created the character Wonder Woman. Two women, his wife Elizabeth Holloway Marston and Olive Byrne, (who lived with the couple in a polyamorous relationship), served as exemplars for the character and greatly influenced her creation.[1][2]

He was inducted into the Comic Book Hall of Fame in 2006.

Early life and career

Born in Saugus, Massachusetts, William Marston was educated at Harvard University, receiving his B.A. in 1915, an L.L.B. in 1918, and a Ph.D. in Psychology in 1921. After teaching at American University in Washington D.C. and Tufts University in Medford MA, Marston traveled to Universal Studios in California in 1929, where he spent a year as Director of Public Services.

Psychologist and inventor

Marston is credited as the creator of the systolic blood-pressure test used in an attempt to detect deception, which became one component of the modern polygraph. According to their son, Marston's wife, Elizabeth Holloway Marston, was also involved in the development of the systolic blood-pressure test: "According to Marston’s son, it was his mother Elizabeth, Marston’s wife, who suggested to him that 'When she got mad or excited, her blood pressure seemed to climb' (Lamb, 2001). Although Elizabeth is not listed as Marston’s collaborator in his early work, Lamb, Matte (1996), and others refer directly and indirectly to Elizabeth’s work on her husband’s deception research. She also appears in a picture taken in his polygraph laboratory in the 1920s (reproduced in Marston, 1938)."[3][4] This would be the basis for Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth.

From this work, Marston had been convinced that women were more honest and reliable than men, and could work faster and more accurately. During his lifetime, Marston championed the causes of women of the day.

Marston was also a writer of essays in popular psychology.

In 1928 he published Emotions of Normal People, which elaborated the DISC Theory. Marston viewed people behaving along two axes, with their attention being either passive or active, depending on the individual's perception of his or her environment as either favourable or antagonistic. By placing the axes at right angles, four quadrants form with each describing a behavioral pattern:

    * Dominance produces activity in an antagonistic environment
    * Inducement produces activity in a favourable environment
    * Steadiness produces passivity in a favourable environment
    * Compliance produces passivity in an antagonistic environment.

Marston posited that there is a male notion of freedom that is inherently anarchic and violent, and an opposing female notion based on "Love Allure" that leads to an ideal state of submission to loving authority.

Wonder Woman

Creation

In an October 25, 1940, interview conducted by former student Olive Byrne (under the pseudonym 'Olive Richard') and published in Family Circle, titled "Don't Laugh at the Comics", Marston described what he saw as the great educational potential of comic books (a follow up article was published two years later in 1942.[5]) This article caught the attention of comics publisher Max Gaines, who hired Marston as an educational consultant for National Periodicals and All-American Publications, two of the companies that would merge to form the future DC Comics.

In the early 1940s the DC line was dominated by superpowered male characters such as the Green Lantern, Batman, and its flagship character, Superman. According to the Fall 2001 issue of the Boston University alumni magazine, it was his wife Elizabeth's idea to create a female superhero:
“William Moulton Marston, a psychologist already famous for inventing the polygraph (forerunner to the magic lasso), struck upon an idea for a new kind of superhero, one who would triumph not with fists or firepower, but with love. 'Fine,' said Elizabeth. 'But make her a woman.'”

Marston introduced the idea to Max Gaines, cofounder (along with Jack Liebowitz) of All-American Publications. Given the go-ahead, Marston developed Wonder Woman with Elizabeth (whom Marston believed to be a model of that era's unconventional, liberated woman). In creating Wonder Woman, Marston was also inspired by Olive Byrne, who lived with the couple in a polygamous/polyamorous relationship. Marston's pseudonym, Charles Moulton, combined his own and Gaines' middle names.

In a 1943 issue of The American Scholar, Marston wrote:
“Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman.”

Development

Marston used a pen name that combined his middle name with that of Gaines to create Charles Moulton. Marston intended his character, which he called "Suprema", to be "tender, submissive, peaceloving as good women are," combining "all the strength of a Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman." His character was a native of an all-female utopia who became a crime-fighting U.S. government agent, using her superhuman strength and agility, and her ability to force villains to tell the truth by binding them with her magic lasso. Her appearance, including her heavy silver bracelets (which she used to deflect bullets), was based somewhat on Olive Byrne.

Editor Sheldon Mayer replaced the name "Suprema" with "Wonder Woman", and the character made her debut in All Star Comics #8 (December 1941). The character next appeared in Sensation Comics #1 (January 1942), and six months later, Wonder Woman #1 debuted. Except for four months in 2006, the series has been in print ever since, and now appears bi-monthly. The stories were initially written by Marston and illustrated by newspaper artist Harry Peter. During his life Marston had written many articles and books on psychological topics, but his last six years of writing were devoted to his comics creation.

William Moulton Marston died of cancer on May 2, 1947 in Rye, New York. After his death, Elizabeth and Olive continued to live together until Olive's death in the late 1980s; Elizabeth died in 1993, aged 100.

Themes

Marston's Wonder Woman is often cited as an early example of bondage themes entering popular culture: physical submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up or otherwise restrained, and her Amazonian friends engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play (possibly based on Marston's earlier research studies on sorority initiations). These elements were softened by later writers of the series. Though Marston had described female nature as submissive, in his other writings and interviews he referred to submission to women as a noble and potentially world-saving practice, leading ideally to the establishment of a matriarchy, and did not shy away from the sexual implications of this:

"The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound ... Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society. ... Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element".

About male readers, he later wrote: "Give them an alluring woman stronger than themselves to submit to, and they'll be proud to become her willing slaves!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston


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Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
« Reply #276 on: December 09, 2008, 01:47:22 pm »
GoingEtheric:

Loved that new video ... and again, thank you immensely for What Makes the Light ~ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rqBVJZ71rA4. Great work!

BROCKE:

I had no idea about this Marston character - we need to keep digging to unmask our programmers.


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2008 - Dang! I missed the ABDUCTION FESTIVAL with the Alien Birthing Room! The kids would haved LOVED that!

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d05_1189981607




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Y2K - UFOs and NATIONAL SECURITY ...



Beam me up, Scotty - from 2000.



Our NWO friends from PopMech, muddying the waters - WTF is REAL??



2000 - America's favorite caped crusader, at AREA 51?



2000 - The RAELIAN nut cases go mainstream - ET CLONING??



From 2003 - the new RELIGION.

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http://www.powells.com/biblio/62-9780415263245-1



2003 - Superdude STILL protecting America from the ALIENS!



2004 - More Ancient Alien Gods.

http://www.fsr.org.uk/fsrintroduction.html



2007 - Sixty years and counting.



2008 - OK ... the present. Two covers from the Harryhausen series of comics.


2008 - Weapons of Mass Destruction!

http://www.scifistation.com/harryhausen/harryhausen.html



2008 - Corporate TV RELIGION. Check it out!

http://www.history.com/minisites/ufohunters



2008 - the "State of the ART" - is this reality?? No? Then what?



2008 - This image is burned into our collective consciousness.
Are we about to see a 'real' version on the 10 o'clock news?



2008 - DRAFTED into the fight against the ALIENS. One World. One People. One Purpose.

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Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
« Reply #277 on: December 13, 2008, 08:05:32 pm »
Took the best ones [comics] from this thread, dated them, and made a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiKJaSDnjU

Good Work! I am featuring your video on my blog.

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« Reply #278 on: December 13, 2008, 08:27:25 pm »
(Not sure if I can swear here as in on Youtube, so I wont ;) (why the heck is that like that anyways)? A: To create maintain a dirty culture.

Just want to say: WHAT A GREAT THREAD!!!

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Re: Comic Book Conspiracy- Symbols and Messages in Comic Books
« Reply #279 on: December 14, 2008, 02:32:54 am »
Good Work! I am featuring your video on my blog.
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