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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/04/obamas-gun-control-plan-includes-gun-ban-social-security-beneficiaries/


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The ban pertaining to Social Security beneficiaries is now tucked into the “mental health” aspects of Obama’s executive gun control.

According to the White House executive order preview:

Current law prohibits individuals from buying a gun if, because of a mental health issue, they are either a danger to themselves or others or are unable to manage their own affairs. The Social Security Administration (SSA) has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to ensure that appropriate information in its records is reported to NICS. The reporting that SSA, in consultation with the Department of Justice, is expected to require will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year who have a documented mental health issue, receive disability benefits, and are unable to manage those benefits because of their mental impairment, or who have been found by a state or federal court to be legally incompetent. The rulemaking will also provide a mechanism for people to seek relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm for reasons related to mental health.



Again, the push for a ban on gun possession for certain Social Security beneficiaries was already in the works during the summer, but it is also incorporated into the “mental health” aspect of Obama’s executive gun control.

And this means that information on beneficiaries who meet the criteria of mental impairment–demonstrated in part by an inability to manage their own benefits–will be added to the National Instant Criminal Background System (NICS) so that the beneficiaries cannot buy a gun.
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  My opinion....Anything Obama does to mess with the 2nd Amendment will hurt Hillary and Hillary knows it.  This will bring most gun owners---Republicans, Independents, some Democrats, Veterans, etc----TO THE POLLS. 

 
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They've already done this to military members.

They send somebody to a hell-hole repeatedly, then ask them if they're feeling OK. If they say, “No.” and attempt to seek psychological help, then they get diagnosed with PTSD. Upon separation, they're offered money for a disability.

What they don't tell the member is that they'll NEVER be able to own a gun for the rest of their lives because of that diagnosis. Doesn't matter if 50 years has gone by since then.

People are posting VA letters received where they're “declared” incompetent and “unable to manage their own affairs.” Same thing applies once that happens.
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https://www.gunowners.org/01052016.htm

  From Gun Owners of America....


Obama Declares War on Gun Owners

GOA to Fight Obama’s Lawless Decrees

Today, the President picked up his “phone and his pen” and continued his assault on the Second Amendment.

On the presidential website, the President declared war on senior citizens, and on private individuals who, in some cases, sell as few as one firearm. 

Those are just the highlights.  There is much more, and you can read additional analysis of the President’s imperial diktat here.

But bottom line:  Having failed to get gun control legislation passed in Congress, Obama is doing what he always does when he can’t get what he wants.

He’s circumventing Congress and enacting “legislation” by executive fiat.

You can be sure that Gun Owners of America will be doing everything in its power to fight these edicts tooth-n-nail. 
More on this below.

Open Season on Seniors and Other Law-Abiding Gun Owners

Gun Owners of America alerted you back in July of last year that Obama wanted to ban Social Security beneficiaries from owning guns, if they are deemed as being unable to manage their financial affairs.   

With this new executive action, that policy has now been officially announced: 

The Social Security Administration (SSA) has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to ensure that appropriate information in its records is reported to NICS [and] will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year.

The President also wants to take America back 30 years -- prior to the reforms in the Firearms Protection Act of 1986 -- and unleash a horde of additional ATF agents to entrap law-abiding Americans who are supposedly “engaged in the business” of selling firearms.

What constitutes being “engaged in the business” -- selling 50 guns ... 25 guns ... 15 guns ... or 5 guns?  While the President’s lawless decree doesn’t say, it does suggest the number could be as low as “one or two transactions.”

So if you’re financially strapped in this Obama economy and want to make a few bucks selling off the firearms in your home, look out.  You could be “sentenced up to five years in prison and fined up to $250,000” if you are subsequently determined to have “engaged in the business” of selling an unspecified number of firearms without a license.

The alternative, of course, is that you voluntarily become an FFL and conduct background checks on every gun you sell -- guns that you legally bought as a private citizen.

Just as the President admitted that ObamaCare would serve as a first step to single-payer (aka, socialistic) health care, so will these gun control regs push us one-step closer to universal gun registration, which is what the President actually wants.

Dumb Guns for Everyone

The Hypocrite in Chief also is directing several federal agencies “to review the availability of smart gun technology on a regular basis, and to explore potential ways to further its use and development....”

Of course, such a move is entirely hypocritical, given that the President has made no indication that his Secret Service agents will also be carrying these dumb guns.

As stated by Breitbart’s A.W.R. Hawkins:  “When it comes to his personal safety, Obama appears to remain a big fan of traditional firearms.”

What Can Gun Owners Do?

The easiest solution is to elect a pro-gun president.

While several presidential hopefuls have already indicated they would repeal the Obama’s executive actions if elected, the GOA-endorsed candidate, Ted Cruz, has promised to erase Obama’s gun control legacy.

"[The President] has a phone and he has a pen, but if you live by the pen you die by the pen, and my pen has got an eraser," Cruz said.

Second, Gun Owners of America will be working with legislators on Capitol Hill to “defund” the president’s unlawful orders.  This is the preferred “short term” approach because these no-funding provisions can be attached to “must pass” bills that the president will sign.  Stay tuned for future alerts to this effect.

Third, GOA and its foundation are pursuing swift legal action.  We have already fought battles like this -- and won.

For example, GOA was recently involved in the legal defense of Bob Arwady in Houston, who was wrongly accused of dealing in firearms without a license --- and he was acquitted by a jury.  You can read more on this case here.

Lastly, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (R) introduced legislation last month to that declares that any executive action by Obama that infringes upon the Second Amendment rights of all Americans “shall have no force or effect.”

This is a good bill (S. 2434), and we will pursue it if we think there is any chance of pushing it past a presidential veto.

GOA Announces a New Executive Director

Finally, we are pleased to announce that a new executive director became the official spokesman for Gun Owners of America on January 1 of this year.

As you know, Larry Pratt has guided our organization for almost 40 years as the organization’s executive director.  He will remain quite active as GOA’s Executive Director Emeritus -- conducting media interviews and hosting his weekly radio program, the GOA NewsHour Radio.

Erich Pratt, who has served in various roles with the organization for over 25 years -- and for the last decade as the Director of Communications -- has now stepped into the role of Executive Director.

For all of the leadership and staff at GOA, we want to wish you a Happy New Year.  It’s unfortunate that we must begin 2016 with our freedoms under attack.

But that is why Gun Owners of America is here, fighting a no-compromise battle to protect your right to keep and bear arms.

Thank you for your support and for your activism.  It’s what gives us the encouragement to continue fighting for our rights.
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They've already done this to military members.

They send somebody to a hell-hole repeatedly, then ask them if they're feeling OK. If they say, “No.” and attempt to seek psychological help, then they get diagnosed with PTSD. Upon separation, they're offered money for a disability.

What they don't tell the member is that they'll NEVER be able to own a gun for the rest of their lives because of that diagnosis. Doesn't matter if 50 years has gone by since then.

People are posting VA letters received where they're “declared” incompetent and “unable to manage their own affairs.” Same thing applies once that happens.

  You are so right.  Thanks for your post.

 
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I used to think the VA was there to help veterans, that they were some sort of advocate.

But after seeing what I've seen and hearing what I've heard, I now believe that the VA has always been there to track and manage veterans (which the government has always considered a threat) at the pleasure of the executive branch. They're not really interested in helping vets and  would rather see them die off after their usefulness has ended.

We see this repeatedly with VA hospital nightmares that never improve. That's intentional.

The only thing that forces the VA to maintain an appearance of giving a **** is the occasional public relations scandal.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/obama-gun-control-rule-mental-illness-217340#.mf28jih:b7Jt

  A note to the wise---never, ever give your doctor more info than he needs.  Never tell him you are feeling down or depressed because this info will soon go to the FBI and may take away your right to own a gun.


Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule
Delivering on its promise to deliver "common sense" gun control, the Obama administration on Monday finalized a rule that enables health care providers to report the names of mentally ill patients to an FBI firearms background check system.

The action was one of a series of steps that President Barack Obama had called for in January 2013 in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings to curb gun violence, but the rule was not published until today.

While the 1993 Brady law prohibits gun ownership by individuals who have been involuntarily committed, found incompetent to stand trial or otherwise deemed by a court to be a danger to themselves or others, federal health care privacy rules prohibited doctors and other providers from sharing information without the consent of their patients.

Under the rule, which takes effect next month, for the first time health providers can disclose the information to the background check system without legal repercussions.
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http://www.infowars.com/americans-critical-of-government-can-lose-gun-rights-due-to-executive-order/

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AMERICANS CRITICAL OF GOVERNMENT CAN LOSE GUN RIGHTS DUE TO EXECUTIVE ORDER
Psychologists could diagnose conservatives, libertarians with "Oppositional Defiant Disorder in adults"


Americans critical of government could have their Second Amendment rights restricted if psychologists diagnose them with “Oppositional Defiant Disorder” or a similar diagnosis as a result of Obama’s new gun control executive action.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: Fifth Edition (DSM-5), which the American Psychiatric Association uses for psychiatric diagnosis, defines “oppositional defiant disorder” as a “recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant, disobedient, and hostile behavior toward authority figures” which typically begins at a young age but can survive into adulthood.

“[Adults with Oppositional Defiant Disorder] feel misunderstood and disliked, hemmed in and pushed around,” according to Russell Barkley, Ph.D.. “Some feel like mavericks or rebels.”

In other words, an Obama-supporting psychologist could potentially diagnose conservatives and libertarians with “Oppositional Defiant Disorder” due to their criticism of authority, particularly the federal government, and then report them to the FBI as too “mentally unfit” to purchase a gun.

But even scarier, the newest version of the DSM-5 is so broad that almost every form of human behavior could be considered some type of mental illness.


In fact, over the past 50 years, the number of mental illnesses defined by sequential editions of the DSM have grown from 130 to over 350.

The rise in children diagnosed with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD/ADD), for example, is mainly due to the newest DSM editions reclassifying certain, normal behaviors as “symptoms.”

“If 7-year-old Mozart tried composing his concertos today, he might be diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder and medicated into barren normality,” George F. Will with the Washington Post lamented.

And looking back at the Soviet Union, the communist regime routinely diagnosed those critical of the government as “mentally ill.”

“People who didn’t accept the beliefs of the Communist Party developed a ‘new type’ of schizophrenia,” the popular blog site The Mind Unleased pointed out. “They suffered from the ‘delusion’ of believing communism was wrong.”

“They were isolated, forcefully medicated, and put through repressive ‘therapy’ to bring them back to sanity.”

And Obama’s latest gun control executive order is heading in the same direction.

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/05/laura-ingraham-bearded-wonder-speaker-paul-ryan-enabled-barack-obamas-executive-gun-control/


Laura Ingraham: ‘The Bearded Wonder’ Speaker Paul Ryan Enabled Barack Obama’s Executive Gun Control


“I would love to see the bearded wonder Paul Ryan—he’s got to lose that beard, it makes him look ridiculous that beard, he should shave it, that is just horrible—that bearded wonder Paul Ryan giving Obama funding for his lawless behavior for the next 12 months,” Ingraham said.

Removes congressional oversight, meaningful oversight through the power of the purse. Congress could have shut this thing before it even started, but no the bearded wonder came out and said ‘going forward we’re going to do things differently but we need to start the new year without the threat of a shutdown hanging.’ The bearded wonder has now given Obama the running room he needed to go for the guns. The bearded wonder. I liked him before the beard—I think he’s been worse since the beard.

Ingraham then played audio of Ryan saying “I love you too” then she noted that “no, he doesn’t love me.”

“I do like him as a person, I shouldn’t say that—but this is mind-numbingly stupid: Why did you give Obama all this running room with the money?” Ingraham asked. “$1.1 trillion budget.”

Ingraham is absolutely correct that Ryan could have stopped this whole executive gun control before it ever even started had he been willing to use the power of the purse, which Congress has essentially surrendered since Obama was elected president. Ryan’s predecessor, now former Speaker , wouldn’t use the power of the purse to stop Obama—and now Ryan has not only followed in Boehner’s footsteps of funding Obama’s efforts to fundamentally transform America, Ryan has accelerated those efforts.
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/obamas_gun_control_lies.html

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Obama's gun control lies


The "Gun Show Loophole" Lie: There is no "gun show loophole."  Contrary to leftist mythology, criminals and terrorists don't skirt existing laws and purchase crateloads of guns at gun shows.  Probably 95% or more of the vendors at gun shows are licensed dealers, who have to abide by the same federal regulations as they do in brick-and-mortar stores.  Individual sellers who make an occasional sale are exempt from dealer regulations.  Has Obama ever been to an actual gun show?  The problem is not that there are too many individual sellers, but too few – dealers often charge inflated prices, while the individual offering a great deal because he needs a few bucks quick is a rarity.
Obama's real plan is to ultimately ban all private sales (including between family members) so that a paper trail exists on as many firearms as possible to facilitate government confiscation.

The "Internet Gun Sales" Lie: Criminals do not buy guns on the internet.  It is literally impossible to buy guns direct on the internet and have them shipped to your house.  Even James Comey, director of the FBI, was ignorant of this fact when testifying before Congress recently.  Like gun shows, 95% or more of the guns advertised on the internet are advertised by licensed dealers who must comply with federal law.  Any transaction between private individuals that crosses state lines must be performed by a licensed dealer in the buyer's state.  Under existing law, the internet can be used only to advertise guns, not supply them directly to a non-dealer.

The "Background Check" Lie: The Constitution does not actually use the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"; that concept is articulated by the Fifth Amendment, which says that the government shall not deprive citizens of "life, liberty, or property" without "due process of law" – meaning that the burden of proof always rests with the government before one's rights can be suspended.  Background checks on gun buyers, which have been in effect for 20 years, are a violation of the Due Process Clause because they require the individual to get clearance from the government before he exercises his Second Amendment rights. 


The "Smart Gun" Lie: Obama's proposal included a push for so-called "smart gun" technology, in which a gun may not be fired unless a specific user is electronically authorized to do so.  In a sickening display of lowbrow pandering, Obama equated this concept with childproof aspirin bottles and cell phone apps that prevent unauthorized use.  Of course, such technology would enable the government to prevent the supposedly "authorized" owner from using the weapon as well.

Obama's performance – delivered before a fawning audience of supporters – was straight out of the Dictator's Handbook.  Every single dictator in world history, from Caesar to Hitler to Stalin to Mao, has employed these same demagogic techniques.  The American people have good reason to be frightened out of their wits over the future of the Republic, and the future of their individual liberties.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/06/bnthe-nuclear-option-executive-gun-control-obama-creates-crazy-list-disarms-the-elderly/

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The Nuclear Option — Executive Gun Control: Obama Creates ‘Crazy List,’ Disarms the Elderly

When all the hectoring is finished, the professorial lecturing is done, all the political posturing is over, all that is left after executive gun control are tears. And crocodile tears at that.

Even for those of us long tired of the false hopes and outright lies from this White House, President Obama’s crude gunplay Tuesday was pretty shocking.

It was shocking for its hollowness. Shocking for its low-mindedness. Shocking for the complete disdain the man has for all the families of victims of gun violence that he trots out to carry his political water. And what for? To save a future life? Prevent a past death?

No. He even admitted on live national television that his raft of meaningless proposals will do nothing to prevent a single gun crime and nor would they have ever prevented one in the past.

“Each time this comes up, we are fed the excuse that common-sense reforms, like background checks, might not have stopped the last massacre. Or the one before that. Or the one before that. So why bother? I reject that thinking.”

In other words, Mr. Obama is saying: “Let’s make up some meaningless new gun laws just ‘cuz.”

Or, as his former chief of staff might say, “Never let a tragedy go to waste. Not when you can hector, lecture and grandstand over it. Score some political points.”

No, all of this executive action is designed entirely to create one giant charade that Mr. Obama understands, cares and is offering capable solutions to a problem he wants to fix.

Yet, nothing could be further from the truth.

“Every single year, more than 30,000 Americans have their lives cut short by guns. Thirty thousand. Suicides, domestic violence, gang shootouts, accidents. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have lost brothers and sisters or buried their own children,” he waxed on, as if he really intended to do something about it.

“Many have had to learn to live with a disability or learn to live without the love of their life. A number of those people are here today. They can tell you some stories,” he continued. “In this room right here, there are a lot of stories. There’s a lot of heartache. There’s a lot of resilience, there’s a lot of strength, but there’s also a lot of pain. And this is just a small sample.”

In the end, he offered nothing. Nothing that isn’t already the law. More paperwork. More busy work.

And tears. Empty tears. Meaningless tears. Fake tears.

To be sure, Tuesday’s announcement was an open admission that, indeed, the president does intend to use medical records from Obamacare to create a national “crazy list” of people, especially the elderly, who cannot have guns to defend themselves.
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Armed Social Security Recipients are Now Targeted by Obama


Tim Brown
February 10, 2016

If you've got a gun and you receive Social Security, you are now being targeted by the Obama administration.

In the latest stealth effort by the Communist administration, the Social Security Administration is wanting to list the names of those who receive Social Security benefits to the National Instant Check System (NICS) as "prohibited persons." This would effectively ban them from being able to purchase a gun and would target those who already own guns.

It would also be a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment's due process clause.

The LA Times has the story:

The push is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws regulating who gets reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, which is used to prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the country illegally and others.

A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease."

If Social Security, which has never participated in the background check system, uses the same standard as the VA, millions of its beneficiaries would be affected. About 4.2 million adults receive monthly benefits that are managed by 'representative payees.'

The Veterans Administration has been involved in this for years now, as they have sought to disarm our veterans, those who have fought to defend the very rights they are being deprived. My good friend Leon Puissegur seems to have been targeted in such a manner.

Just like the VA, the Social Security Administration would have no judicial oversight, which would mean they would end up violating the Constitutional rights of American citizens under the Second and Fifth Amendments.

We already know that the NICS system is being used to build a database, despite it being against the law to do so.

Owning a gun is not a crime. Being a veteran is not a crime. Being elderly is not a crime. Even being marked as having "subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease" is not a crime. Therefore, people's rights should not be infringed because a mentally ill, criminal usurper thinks they should be.

Any way this criminal administration can think of restricting or confiscating guns, they are looking to do it. Whether it is through the Veterans Administration, more background checks, or putting people on a random no-fly list, they are openly defying God, the people and the Constitution.

What Americans need to keep their eyes on is the simple fact that the united States Constitution does not grant any authority to DC politicians to write law nor impose by executive order the restriction of guns for citizens. Congress doesn't have that authority, the Executive Branch doesn't have that authority and neither does the Judicial Branch. This is a usurpation and always has been because every federal gun law is unconstitutional!

http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/02/armed-social-security-recipients-are-now-targeted-by-obama/

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Lawmakers want answers why VA stripped 260K vets of gun rights

3/25/16
Chris Eger

Two Senate Republicans are seeking to understand the Veterans Affairs office practice of reporting veterans to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check system.

Currently a veterans assigned a fiduciary trustee to act on their behalf is automatically declared “mentally defective” and is reported to NICS, the database Federal Firearms Licensees use to determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy guns. As of December 2015, the VA has reported 260,381 individuals to the FBI, effectively making them prohibited firearms possessors under the law.

U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley, an Iowa lawmaker who is currently the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, finds this unacceptable.

“Our military heroes risked their lives to protect and defend this country and all that we stand for, including our most basic constitutional rights,” said Grassley in a statement. “Now the very agency created to serve them is jeopardizing their Second Amendment rights through an erroneous reading of gun regulations. The VA’s careless approach to our veterans’ constitutional rights is disgraceful.”

In an effort to fix the issue, Grassley, along with Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee Chairman Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., penned a letter to VA Secretary Robert McDonald last week and another to the subcommittee over the agency’s funding, questioning the practice.

Making a due process argument, the lawmakers argue the VA uses the fiduciary trustee status of a veteran to regulate firearms possession without ever seeking to find out if the service member is a danger to themselves or others.

“The use of the VA regulation, adopted for a totally unrelated purpose, is suspect, especially in light of the Supreme Court holding that the Second Amendment is a fundamental right,” reads the letter to McDonald. “That holding changed the legal calculus by which a regulatory scheme can survive constitutional scrutiny and it is not clear how these regulations would fare under that increased scrutiny.”

Demanding answers, the senators want the VA to explain the process which now supplies over 99 percent of the individuals reported as being “mentally defective” to NICS and how they satisfy the constitutional argument.

A similar standard has been proposed by the Social Security Administration to strip gun rights from as many as 75,000 beneficiaries per year according to figures released by the White House in January.


http://www.guns.com/2016/03/25/lawmakers-want-answers-why-va-stripped-260k-vets-of-gun-rights/
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Rand Paul Bill Would Block Feds from Unilaterally Disarming Veterans, Seniors 


Legislation would force feds to uphold due process rights

Adan Salazar
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April 15, 2016


Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has introduced legislation intended to protect the due process rights of veterans and senior citizens who are wrongly prohibited from purchasing a firearm by the federal background check system. 

The Protecting Gun Rights and Due Process Act would require veterans and seniors be “adjudicated” as mentally incompetent before their names can be added to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).

“Adjudication requires findings by a judicial officer or court, and the individual receives notice to participate with counsel,” explains a press release from Paul’s office.

Under the new bill, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs and Social Security Administrator would within 90 days need to remove names from the NICS list that were added without those people being adjudicated.

In other words, the bill would require the agencies to wait for due process to take place before they can restrict one’s Second Amendment rights.

    A d v e r t i s e m e n t

“I refuse to stand idly by while the Obama administration unilaterally strips away gun rights from our nation’s veterans and seniors,” Sen. Paul wrote. “The Protecting Gun Rights and Due Process Act will provide necessary protection for gun-owning Americans, and ultimately ensure that the Second Amendment is not infringed upon.”

Additionally the bill would mandate the Attorney General conduct yearly reviews of the names in the NICS database to ensure that their due process rights were upheld, with those who were not adjudicated having their rights restored.

Pro-Second Amendment organizations such as Gun Owners of America and the National Association of Gun Rights have supported the legislation, according to a statement from Paul’s office.

Below is a statement sent out from Sen. Paul’s office regarding the bill.

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-bill-would-block-feds-from-unilaterally-disarming-veterans-seniors.html

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  Social Security Admin. Moves to Strip 75,000 Americans of 2nd Amendment Right


Ruling applies to Americans who have filed for and receive benefits

Kurt Nimmo
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May 3, 2016


If you are a recipient of or have filed for Social Security disability, you may soon have your Second Amendment right nullified.

Back in January, Obama penned an executive order allowing the Social Security Administration (SSA) to report certain individuals to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System, the database Federal Firearms Licensees use to determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to purchase firearms.

“The reporting that SSA, in consultation with the Department of Justice, is expected to require will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year who have a documented mental health issue, receive disability benefits, and are unable to manage those benefits because of their mental impairment, or who have been found by a state or federal court to be legally incompetent,” a fact sheet released by the White House on January 4 states.

Acting Commissioner Carolyn W. Colvin signed the rule and it was posted to the Federal Register on April 28, according to Guns.com.

The “Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act” spells out a five-step qualification process that will be used to first identify and then report selected Title II and Title XVI beneficiaries to the Department of Justice.

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Americans who have filed a claim with the agency based on disability and are adjudicated as having a diagnosed Mental Disorder Listing, are over 18 but under retirement age, and receive benefits through a representative payee approved by SSA due to being incapable of managing their own payments will have their Second Amendment right stripped.

“The SSA has reported that as many as 75,000 individuals per year could meet such guidelines. As of March 2016, the agency reports that 65,488,000 people are receiving Social Security, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), or both, making the estimated number expected to report to NICS comprise 0.11 percent of those currently receiving benefits,” notes Chris Eger.

Government Considers Large Number of Americans Mentally Ill

The SSA website breaks down who might qualify as mentally impaired, including individuals who have problems with “adaptive activities such as cleaning, shopping, cooking, taking public transportation, paying bills, maintaining a residence, caring appropriately for… grooming and hygiene, using telephones and directories, and using a post office.”

Moreover, people determined to have issues with the “capacity to interact independently, appropriately, effectively, and on a sustained basis with other individuals… such as family members, friends, neighbors, grocery clerks, landlords, or bus drivers… [and] demonstrate impaired social functioning by, for example, a history of altercations, evictions, firings, fear of strangers, avoidance of interpersonal relationships, or social isolation” will be classified as mentally disabled and not qualified to exercise the Second Amendment.

According to the government, “social impairment” is a mental illness and includes those who either are unable or unwilling to “initiate social contacts with others, communicate clearly with others, or interact and actively participate in group activities.” The classification is based upon “cooperative behaviors” that include “consideration for others, awareness of others’ feelings, and social maturity.” According to the SSA, not “responding appropriately to persons in authority” is a form of mental illness.


Template for Future Attacks on the Second Amendment

For now, the ruling only applies to Americans who have filed for and receive government benefits and are medically determined to be afflicted by the above.

However, considering government mission creep and the determination of the Obama administration and Democrats to reduce the number of Americans practicing their rights, we can expect an effort to adjudicate more individuals incapable of possessing firearms.

In 2014, under the cover of “gun violence” and in the wake of Sandy Hook, the Obama administration pledged federal dollars to an initiative designed to test students in K-12 public schools for mental illness.

“Public schools, which have increasingly taken on aspects of psychiatric clinics in recent years, will get infused with more than $150 million in federal grants to further this agenda under the auspices of Obama’s 2013 executive action titled ‘Now is the Time to Do Something About Gun Violence,’” WND reported.

In February, Infowars reported on a recommendation by the United States Preventive Services Task Force to force health insurance companies to pay for mental health screening.

“Mandatory depression screening will not just raise insurance costs,” writes Ron Paul. “In order to ensure that the screening mandate is being properly implemented, the government will need to create a database containing the results of the screenings. Those anti-gun politicians who want to forbid anyone labeled ‘mentally ill’ from owning a firearm will no doubt want to use this database as a tool to deprive individuals of their Second Amendment rights.”

In January, the US Department of Health and Human Services modified the government’s Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) Privacy Rule “to expressly permit certain HIPAA covered entities to disclose to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) the identities of individuals who are subject to a Federal ‘mental health prohibitor’ that disqualifies them from shipping, transporting, possessing, or receiving a firearm.”

For the government, mandatory mental health screening is an ideal mechanism for stripping Americans of their right to own firearms. As Ron Paul notes, even “mental health professionals acknowledge that there is a great deal of subjectivity in mental health diagnosis.”

The move by the SSA to nullify the Second Amendment right of 75,000 Americans is only the beginning. If Hillary Clinton enters the White House, we can expect further efforts to diminish and eventually relegate the cornerstone of the Constitution to the dustbin of history


http://www.prisonplanet.com/social-security-admin-moves-to-strip-75000-americans-of-2nd-amendment-right.html
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  Obama Admin Works to Keep Guns From Many on Social Security Disability 


 freebeacon
Stephen Gutowski
5-09-2016


The Social Security Administration has announced the details of a new rule that would bar many receiving federal disability payments from owning firearms.

The proposed rule is part of President Obama’s push to tighten gun laws while bypassing Congress. News of the plan to add some Social Security recipients to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, was first uncovered by the Los Angeles Times last summer and has faced fierce opposition from gun rights groups ever since.

President Obama announced in January that he was officially ordering the Social Security Administration to start the process for implementing the rule.

The rule would require the agency to report recipients with a representative payee who meet certain criteria to the NICS, thus keeping them from being able to legally purchase or posses a firearm. Currently there are millions of recipients who have their finances managed by a representative payee, but most of them will not be reported to NICS under the proposed rule.

That represents a significant retreat from the policy that was originally floated. It was first reported that the rule would mirror one implemented at the Veterans Administration, which affects all veterans with a representative payee.

Though Social Security’s rule limits the scope of those banned from owning firearms compared to the VA it would still potentially target a larger group of people. Tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans could be affected.

“We recognize that there is no perfect fit between: (1) Our adjudication regarding a claimant’s entitlement to benefits and determination of whether to designate a representative payee; and (2) the regulatory definition of an individual who is subject to the Federal mental health prohibitor,” the proposal reads. “Considering the relevant regulatory factors, discussed above, however, we believe that there is a reasonable and appropriate fit between the criteria we use to decide whether some of our beneficiaries are disabled and require a representative payee and the Federal mental health prohibitor.”

The Social Security administration lays out five specific criteria for recipients they plan to add to NICS. Those the agency plans to target must have filed a disability claim, been determined to be disabled because of a mental impairment, been officially diagnosed as mentally impaired, between the ages of 18 and 65, and have been assigned a representative payee because they were found by Social Security to be incapable of managing their benefit payments.

The rule also includes a procedure for recipients to challenge the agency’s determination that they should be added to NICS.

The rule does not require that a recipient be determined to be a threat to themselves or others before being barred from gun ownership. That’s a major sticking point for gun rights advocates.

“The Social Security Administration’s proposal doesn’t require an individual to be adjudicated mentally defective or to pose a risk to himself or others,” Lars Dalesiede, a NRA spokesman, said. “Instead they are set to strip away your constitutional rights just because you meet a set of criteria established by a group of faceless bureaucrats you’ll never meet. That puts thousands of Americans in the terrible position of choosing whether to pay their bills or give up their constitutional rights.”

The group called the president’s push for the new rule “embarrassing and shameful.”

The rule will undergo a public comment period in which Americans can share their opinion with the Social Security Administration for the next 60 days.


http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-admin-works-keep-guns-many-social-security-disability/
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Social Security Administration Publishes Final Rule Relating to NICS Improvement(T)

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 12/23/2016
 Adam Kraut, Esq.


It has been well reported that the Social Security Administration (“SSA”) had been passing along information of individuals that it deemed unable to handle their financial affairs to NICS for the purposes of preventing them from purchasing a firearm due to being “adjudicated as a mental defective.”

In May of this year, the SSA published a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. It received over 91,000 comments relating to the proposed rule. Of those, 86,860 were identical letters submitted by various individuals of a single advocacy group, opposing the proposed rule.

On December 19, 2016, the SSA published a Final Rule on the Federal Register pertaining to its regulations. While the regulations take effect on January 18, 2017 compliance is not required until December 19, 2017.

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https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/12/23/social-security-administration-publishes-final-rule-relating-to-nics-improvement-amendments-act-of-2007/


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Guns will be banned for ALL people who receive Social Security.

Two criteria to lose gun rights under this BIPARTISAN gun ban: 1) you're judged mentally impaired, 2) your money is handled by a representative payee.

Anybody who has money direct-deposited into a bank account has, technically, made that bank the representative payee.  This is 40-50 million Americans on Social Security (retirement).

Mentally impaired...just look at the new DSM (the psychiatric diagonostic bible).  Everything is mental illness.  Everything.

It's just a matter of time until all SS recipients are denied the "privilege" of gun ownership, and this was done to us by BOTH parties (the two wings of our unified oligarchy).