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Its just being reported now, plot:

to assassinate Saudi Ambassador to the US via hired hitmen from Mexican Drug Cartels

This has conditioning op written all over it.  Now every Mexican Cartel movement and offense can be attributed to Iran.  All too obvious.  This is very likely a 'wag the dog' move to take the heat off of 'Fast and Furious'.
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Both suspects are Iranian, one is a US citizen.

DoJ about to have a presser.

FBI and DEA are being cited along with Mexican Gov as the primary foilers.
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Israeli figures in the US being cited as additional targets.
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Fox reporting that the plot had two elements:

1)  bombing the Saudi and Israeli Embassies in Washington DC

2)  assassination of Saudi Ambassador
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MSM says plan to bomb israeli embassy's were also a factor.

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We can't let this happen.... shit. NWO are gonna destroy us as a nation for sure. Say goodbye freedoms.

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Coming up next...War with Iran and Mexico.
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Feds claim to have foiled Washington, D.C. terror plot

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/11/feds-claim-to-have-foiled-washington-d-c-terror-plot/


FBI, DEA disrupt plot by elements of Iran government to kill Saudi envoy to U.S. on American soil, U.S. official says.

http://www.cnn.com/

Iranians charged in U.S. over assassination plot

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/11/us-usa-security-iran-idUSTRE79A5E020111011
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FBI now preaching how irrelevant borders are in the world we live in now. That is what he opened his speech with.

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And so it begins...

Here's the pre-programming to the upcoming false flag so we can start WWIII.  Nobody will care about Occupy Wall Street when we exchange nukes with Iran.

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AG Holder has begun spinning, everybody listen up,...

$1.5 million [CNN reporting billion] plot; one suspect arrested late last month; one Iran-based suspect is at large

Arrested suspect has confessed to direct connection to Iran

FBI's Muller's fibbing:

Mexican Cartels [after laundering Wachovia's dirty money] were to be hired to carry out Iran's will

  
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AG Holder has begun spinning, everybody listen up,...

$1.5 million plot; one suspect arrested late last month; one Iran-based suspect is at large

Arrested suspect has confessed to direct connection to Iran

FBI's Muller's fibbing:

Mexican Cartels [after laundering Wachovia's dirty money] were to be hired to carry out Iran's will

  

Yes and don't forget a FBI confidential informant POSED as a member of a mexican drug cartel or a drug cartel leader.

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It also gave Holder a chance to look like he is doing something good, not getting Americans killed in useless gun running endeavors, and to serve as a distraction from that...and we should also take note that the villain in this little fairy tale is also Mexico, not just Iran. A war on two fronts, Mexico, and Iran, a world war....yup, our future is looking very bright... riots in the street brewing via government plants, manufactured wars...I am afraid to ask whats next.
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this will put fast and furious in the background.. ::)

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Is this the plot to some trashy new tv series that will only run one season or are they really, really, really trying to pass this off as genuine news ?


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Holder: US is holding Iran accountable.

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"Hold Iran accountable..." that doesn't sound very good at all.

@EvadingGrid, its on Faux and CNN now.
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this will put fast and furious in the background.. ::)

I think that might be the whole point.  Now Every time a cartel member sneezes at America it can be blamed on Iran.

The really rediculous part about the Fast and Furious connection, is that if we are to believe this Mexican assassination story, then the FBI and DEA were running guns via Fast and Furious to the guys that were gonna do the assassination and the bombings.
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This is very likely a 'wag the dog' move to take the heat off of 'Fast and Furious'.

What is "Fast and Furious" all about?

 ???

They are really looking at ways to hit iran by some obvious fabrication aren't they?
They know a total financial collapse is on its way in Europe and the US so they need to find a diversion, every way they can scare the sheep will be good.

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"It's not appropriate to discuss why the second suspect is still at large..." WTF, in what world would that not be appropriate if he is supposedly a criminal mastermind behind several assassination attempts as they would have us beleive?!?!? If you want him, you tell us why you want him, and if he is loose, you tell us why he is loose. period. Stupid bureaucratic numbnuts.
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AHA, a reporter still has his nuts...He just asked about the Subpoenas in regard to Fast and Furious...Holder stated he "would undoubtedly comply with them, but he will not allow those to detract from the important business..." The presser was immediately closed at that point.
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What is "fast and furious"?

 ???
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"Hold Iran accountable..." that doesn't sound very good at all.

@EvadingGrid, its on Faux and CNN now.

Thanks, I'll sample a bit, but keep a sick bag next to me just in case.


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What is "fast and furious"?

 ???

google operation gunwalker.

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What is "fast and furious"?

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Start reading here:

Fast And Furious: 22 Shocking Facts About The Scandal That Expose 100% Treason
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=218847.0
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What is "fast and furious"?

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Fast and Furious is where the Feds bought guns from border gun shops, and tracked them into Mexico, and then allowed the guns to walk. A Fed agent was killed shortly after that operation with some of those guns. Holder is about to be Subpoenaed because he has mislead the press and others about how soon he knew about Fast and Furious.
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"It's not appropriate to discuss why the second suspect is still at large..." WTF, in what world would that not be appropriate if he is supposedly a criminal mastermind behind several assassination attempts as they would have us beleive?!?!? If you want him, you tell us why you want him, and if he is loose, you tell us why he is loose. period. Stupid bureaucratic numbnuts.

Especially since one report came out that both suspects were being followed by authorities on their way to Mexico and then authorities arrested only one of them upon his return to NY.
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CRAAAAAAAAAP...Faux news is already bandying around the phrase Act of War...their blood thirsty viewers should be getting their battle-drums and sabres ready for rattling even as we speak.
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What is "fast and furious"?

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Sorry, I didn't mean to skip that post, but by the time I went to reply, several other very good descriptions and links were ready, I have just repeated the same thing.  I hope the links and descriptions found you well.
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Cheney, Neocons Considered Killing Americans in Pretext to Attack Iran

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In the video here, taped at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, the Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh reveals how the neocons convened around Dick Cheney and brainstormed ways to kick off World War IV, as they fondly call their pet project to take out the Muslims and foment a contrived “clash of civilizations.”

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29BtzfSz0o

According to Hersh, this meeting occurred after the neocons failed miserably to stage a rehashed version of the Gulf of Tonkin incident in the Strait of Hormuz, mostly because it is no longer 1964 and such Big Lies — thanks to the internet and bloggers — are far more difficult to float. “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there,” quipped LBJ about the imaginary act of North Vietnamese boats supposedly attacking U.S. ships, leading to the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and undeclared war in Southeast Asia, ultimately resulting in the death of nearly 60,000 Americans and around 3 million Southeast Asians.

In an exclusive Think Progress story, we learn the meeting took place in Cheney’s office and the subject on the table was “how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,” part of an ongoing effort to provide an excuse to attack Iran. “There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war,” Hersh explains. “The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.”

Hersh would have us believe this scenario did not play out because “you can’t have Americans killing Americans,” an absurd explanation considering the fact the attacks of September 11 were just that — “Americans killing Americans,” a calculated and cold-blooded act of mass murder carried out by elements in the U.S. government as a “new Pearl Harbor,” a cynical pretext to launch the “war on terror,” now grinding into its seventh year.

Ominously, these “ideas” hark back to Operation Northwoods, the JSC plan to stage a false flag terror event — or a number of events — designed to provide a pretext to invade Cuba and take out Fidel Castro. Such “ideas” included “friendly Cubans” attacking the U.S. base at Guantanamo, shooting down a drone disguised as a chartered civil airliner and blaming it on Cuba, inciting riots and staging terror attacks in Miami, and other terrorist acts. Fortunately, then Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, put a kibosh to this insane plan.

More recently, in January, 2003, in the lead-up to the Iraq invasion George Bush and Tony Blair discussed painting planes in United Nations colors “in order to provoke an attack which could then be used to justify material breach” and thus set in motion an invasion, according to Philippe Sands, a leading British human rights lawyer (see Revealed: Bush and Blair discussed using American Spyplane in UN colors to lure Saddam into war, Channel Four News).

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False Flag Terrorism

"False flag terrorism" occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people. The attack is then falsely blamed on the enemy in order to justify going to war against that enemy. Or as Wikipedia defines it:

    False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy's strategy of tension.

The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy's flag was hung instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, it was called a "false flag" attack.

There are many examples of false flag attacks through history. For example, it is widely known that the Nazis, in Operation Himmler, faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. And it has now been persuasively argued — as shown, for example, in this History Channel video — that Nazis set fire to their own parliament, the Reichstag, and blamed that fire on others. The Reichstag fire was the watershed event which justified Hitler's seizure of power and suspension of liberties.

And in the early 1950s, agents of an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers). Israel's Defense Minister was brought down by the scandal, along with the entire Israeli government. Click here for verification.

The Russian KGB apparently conducted a wave of bombings in Russia in order to justify war against Chechnya and put Vladimir Putin into power (see also this essay and this report [.pdf]). And the Turkish government has been caught bombing its own and blaming it on a rebel group in order to justify a crackdown on that group. Muslim governments also play this game. For example, the well-respected former Indonesian president claimed that their government had a role in the Bali bombings.

This sounds nuts, right? You've never heard of this "false flag terrorism," where a government attacks its own people then blames others in order to justify its goals, right? And you are skeptical of the statements discussed above? Please take a look at these historical quotes:

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- U.S. President James Madison

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

What about the U.S.?

Is it logical to assume that, even if other countries have carried out false flag operations (especially horrible regimes such as, say, the Nazis or Stalin), the U.S. has never done so? Well, as documented by the New York Times, Iranians working for the C.I.A. in the 1950's posed as Communists and staged bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected president (see also this essay).

And, as confirmed by a former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence, NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and blamed communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Moreover, recently declassified U.S. Government documents show that in the 1960s, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan code-named Operation Northwoods to blow up American airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. The operation was not carried out only because the Kennedy administration refused to implement these Pentagon plans.

For lots more on the astonishing Operation Northwoods, see the ABC news report; the official declassified documents; and watch this interview with James Bamford, the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings. One quote from the Northwoods documents states: "A 'Remember the Maine' incident could be arranged: We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

What about Al-Qaeda?

You might think Al-Qaeda is different. It is very powerful, organized, and out to get us, right? Consider this Los Angeles Times article, reviewing a BBC documentary entitled The Power of Nightmares, which shows that the threat from Al Qaeda has been vastly overblown (and see this article on who is behind the hype). And former National Security Adviser [.pdf] Zbigniew Brzezinski testified to the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative."

And did you know that the FBI had penetrated the cell which carried out the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but had – at the last minute – cancelled the plan to have its FBI infiltrator substitute fake powder for real explosives, against the infiltrator's strong wishes? See also this TV news report.

Have you heard that the CIA is alleged to have met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11? Did you know that years after 9/11 the FBI first stated that it did not have sufficient evidence to prosecute Bin Laden for 9/11? The agency apparently still does not have any hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the crime (see also this partial confirmation by the Washington Post). And did you see the statement by the CIA commander in charge of the capture that the U.S. let Bin Laden escape from Afghanistan?

Have you heard that the anthrax attacks – which were sent along with notes purportedly written by Islamic terrorists – used a weaponized anthrax strain from the top U.S. bioweapons facility? Indeed, top bioweapons experts have stated that the anthrax attack may have been a CIA test "gone wrong." For more on this, see this article by a former NSA and naval intelligence officer and this statement by a distinguished law professor and bioterror expert (and this one).

It is also interesting that the only Congress-members mailed anthrax letters were key Democrats, and that the attacks occurred one week before passage of the freedom-curtailing PATRIOT Act, which seems to have scared them and the rest of Congress into passing that act without even reading it. And though it may be a coincidence, White House staff began taking the anti-anthrax medicine before the Anthrax attacks occurred.

Even General William Odom, former director of the National Security Agency, said "By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism, yet in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation" (the audio is here).

Why Does This Matter?

Please read what the following highly respected people are saying:

Former prominent Republican U.S. Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr stated that the U.S. is close to becoming a totalitarian society and that elements in government are using fear to try to bring this about. Republican U.S. congressman Ron Paul stated that the government "is determined to have martial law." He also said a contrived "Gulf of Tonkin-type incident may occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran." Former National Security Adviser Brzezinski told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.

The former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, Paul Craig Roberts, who is called the "Father of Reaganomics" and is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, BusinessWeek, and Scripps Howard News Service, has said:

    "Ask yourself: Would a government that has lied us into two wars and is working to lie us into an attack on Iran shrink from staging 'terrorist' attacks in order to remove opposition to its agenda? ... If the Bush administration wants to continue its wars in the Middle East and to entrench the 'unitary executive' at home, it will have to conduct some false flag operations that will both frighten and anger the American people and make them accept Bush's declaration of 'national emergency' and the return of the draft. Alternatively, the administration could simply allow any real terrorist plot to proceed without hindrance."

General Tommy Franks stated that if another terrorist attack occurs in the United States "the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government." Daniel Ellsberg, the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower, said "if there is another terror attack, I believe the president will get what he wants. And what he wants is a new Patriot Act, one that will make the current Patriot Act look like the Bill of Rights."

Former UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter stated before the Iraq war started that there were no weapons of mass destruction. He is now saying that he would not rule out staged government terror by the U.S. government. And British Parliament Member George Galloway stated that "there is a very real danger" that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran and to gain complete control domestically.

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Also today in the snews... Spain has been accused of sinking the U.S. warship USS Maine...

How many times are they going to go to this over-used well. ::)

A little Known fun fact...
Saudi Arabia has nuke tipped missiles they received from... drum roll please...... Israeli arms manufactures.  

Saudi Arabia would love nothing more than a joint NATO attack against one of their largest competitors in the oil commodities sector.
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Fox reporting:

President briefed in June.

The blasted arrest was only one month ago according to Holder?!?!
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This guy is an idiot(Eric Holder), think of the conference as a book, all he knew was the title, any other questions and his peons had to step in and answer. When asked about "fast and furious" he replied "we have more important things to worry about" and tucked his tail between his legs and exited the conference!

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Fast and Furious is where the Feds bought guns from border gun shops, and tracked them into Mexico, and then allowed the guns to walk. A Fed agent was killed shortly after that operation with some of those guns. Holder is about to be Subpoenaed because he has mislead the press and others about how soon he knew about Fast and Furious.

Thank you for your answer.

I am due to be in Dubai around the end of the month, which is right across from Iran.
I wonder if there will be some action by then - i.e. an attack on Iran by the United States of Israel?

I really hope I will not have to cancel. I don't want the creeps to disturb my trip.

What really bugs me is all the lies via the MSM and then the sheep buys them.
They all believe what they are being told by Faux News, CNN, the Beeb, France 24, AlJazeera, RT... and I forget some.

All bullcrap.

They are really looking for an excuse to attack Iran.
Well if it happens, it will be no piece of cake for NATO. They are already engulfed in Libya.
Can't even find Khadaffy - bunch of dodos!

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Rep. Ted Poe, Fox:

"...like Pearl Harbor, like 9/11...", on the Iran-Mexi assassination bombing plot.
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this will put fast and furious in the background.. ::)

This IS Fast and Furious.

This is Iran Contra redux. Using Iranian informants to sell opium grown by the CIA to the cartels in exchange for firearms that were sold by the DOJ. This is a house of cards waiting to come down.
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Akhmedinejad spokesman:

This is a child's story.
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Coming up next...War with Iran and Mexico.
   G.. I bet a buck to a dime Mexico has been on the table for a while.
         Thats "fast and furious" for ya.
         RP has the answer, end the wars, thats it, bring the boys home, perpetual war has been the end of civilizations (nations) throughout history.

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Another fabrication - smoke screen for other more important stuff.

I doubt Iran has any intention to attack any nation. Not Israel or any other.
They tried in Bahrain and failed.
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Fox now claiming Iranian SEAL team Six equivalent was involved,...

Quds force
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