Author Topic: Alex knows the "EndCapitalism OWS" is Rothschild BS to block END-the-FED audit.  (Read 25518 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
I wonder if Obama will be their keynote speaker...

International Communist Current


New York
http://en.internationalism.org/public-meetings/nyc/10-29-2011

Submitted by InternationalismUSA on September 26, 2011 - 20:46

Meeting details

Meeting type:  Public Forum

Date: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 13:00 - 16:00

Subject: Capitalism in meltdown: is there a working class response?

Introduction: This forum will focus on some of the most important developments in the world situation in the last few months: - the deepening of the ‘debt crisis’, now hitting not only weaker countries like Greece but the world’s most powerful economy, the USA - the explosion of social protests across North Africa, Spain, Greece, and most recently Israel - the war in Libya - the riots in Britain.

We will try to show that all these events have a common root: the historic dead-end reached by capitalism.

We will try to discuss both the dangers and the potential in the situation, focusing on questions such as: - does capitalism have any way out of the current crisis, or is it actually reaching the terminal stages of its decline?

What is the class nature of the revolts, demonstrations and assemblies we have seen in the recent period?

How did the protests in Libya get diverted into an imperialist war?

Do the riots in Britain contain the potential for a movement against capitalism?


Oh yeah...they love OWS...



Occupy Wall Street Protests
http://en.internationalism.org/forum/1056/beltov/4515/occupy-wall-street-protests
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
Alex Jones - Bankster Takeover of "Occupy Wall Street" Envision Communist America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGsjNR8ZXyw
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline tritonman

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,085
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
I am in the chat room from the protest live feed and am posting the link for .Alex's occupy the fed .  If you join up we can all help advance the message where it will really do some good.  Sign up and post up the infowars link for the protest this weekend. ;D

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
Big Soros Money Linked to “Occupy Wall Street”     
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9269-big-soros-money-linked-to-occupy-wall-street
Written by Alex Newman   
Wednesday, 05 October 2011 15:59

Labor unions, communists, “community organizers,” socialists, and anti-capitalist agitators have all joined together to “Occupy Wall Street” and protest against “greed,” corporations, and bankers. But despite efforts to portray the movement as “leaderless” or “grassroots,” it is becoming obvious that there is much more going on behind the scenes than meets the eye.

Billionaire financier George Soros’ fingerprints, for example, have been all over the anti-Wall Street campaign from the very beginning. And this week, the infamous hedge-fund boss publicly announced his sympathy for the protesters and their complaints about bailouts — despite the fact that he lobbied for even greater unconstitutional handouts to bankers in 2009.

“Actually I can understand their sentiment, frankly,” he told reporters while announcing a large donation to the United Nations. “I can sympathize with their grievances.”

But Soros’ support for the protesters goes far beyond his tepid public statements. In fact, the original call to “Occupy Wall Street” came from the magazine AdBusters, an “anti-consumerist” publication financed by, among other sources, the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.

Other Soros-backed outfits promoting big government — some with myriad ties to the Obama administration — are also publicly driving the occupation campaign. MoveOn.org, for instance, has received millions of dollars from the billionaire banker. And now, the group is urging its supporters to join the Occupy Wall Street movement as well. 

“Over the last two weeks, an amazing wave of protest against Wall Street and the big banks has erupted across the country,” MoveOn said in a recent e-mail to supporters, praising the “brave” demonstrators. “On Wednesday, MoveOn members will join labor and community groups in New York City for a huge march down to the protest site — the biggest yet.”

On top of supplying activists to join the demonstrations, MoveOn is also staging what it calls a “massive ‘Virtual March on Wall Street’ online.” The Internet-based demonstrations are a collaborative effort with another radical and well-connected outfit tied to Soros called Rebuild the Dream.

Led by self-described communist and former Obama administration czar Van Jones, the “Dream” movement is a partnership between a host of Soros-financed “progressive” groups. Big Labor and even Planned Parenthood — the largest abortion provider in America, which receives hundreds of millions of tax dollars each year — are partners, too.

“Together, we'll add hundreds of thousands of voices of solidarity from the American Dream Movement for the protests across the country and show just how widespread outrage at the Wall Street banks really is,” MoveOn boasted in its e-mail.

Other groups working with Rebuild the Dream are also publicly hyping the demonstrations. And more than a few of them are on the Soros payroll as well. Some examples include People For The American Way, Planned Parenthood, Campaign For America's Future, Democracy For America, Leadership Conference for Civil and Human Rights, Common Cause, Public Campaign, and many more.

Soros, of course, has a long history of financing organizations targeting the American system of government. He has also served on the board of the immensely influential global-governance-promoting Council on Foreign Relations.

Just last year, Soros claimed that the brutal communist dictatorship ruling mainland China should lead what he calls the “New World Order.” The Chinese tyrants, meanwhile, have also been touting Occupy Wall Street through the regime’s propaganda organs.

But Soros does not love the despots in Beijing for their commitment to “equality” or “democracy.” As The New American reported, behind Soros and his tens of billions lies even more wealth and power: the unimaginably vast Rothschild banking empire.   

One of the richest men in the world today, Soros has been in legal trouble for corruption before — in France, for instance, he was fined more than $2 million for his illegal scheming. So, critics noted, it might seem ironic that the textbook example of a “corrupt financier” would finance a protest supposedly aimed at corrupt financiers. But the irony hardly ends there.     

Union bosses and others intimately linked to President Obama — whose top campaign contributors included Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, and other big banks — are also playing a key role in the Wall Street protests. The protesters are even recycling administration talking points such as the old “the rich should be forced to pay their 'fair share'" — despite the fact that the “Buffett rule” tax proposal being advanced would almost exclusively soak what remains of the middle class.

But that might be the point. According to reports and analysts, the whole anti-Wall Street movement has been carefully orchestrated by the Obama-linked anti-capitalist union titans and tax-funded “community organizers.” A troubling plot to essentially finish off capitalism was exposed earlier this year, and at the time it was blasted as “economic terrorism.” Even more disturbing: It was uncannily similar to the growing Wall Street demonstrations. 

Community organizer Stephen Lerner of the SEIU, a regular White House guest, was caught on video in March discussing the scheme to “bring down the stock market” and "destabilize" the nation — all with the stated goal of "redistributing wealth." And while the whole conspiracy was not revealed because Lerner suspected police were present, the strategies he mentioned included civil disobedience and mass anti-banker protests.

Another conspirator said to be pulling the strings, disgraced ACORN founder and union boss Wade Rathke, was advocating massive “Day of Rage” protests targeting bankers earlier this year. And he is also closely tied to Obama, who actually used to work for Rathke’s “community organizing” outfit.

ACORN, of course, was recently exposed engaging in widespread criminal activity while receiving millions of federal tax dollars. But after the organization filed for bankruptcy, its tentacles are taking over under new names — and still receiving government handouts.

Rathke is also a founding board member of the Soros-funded Tides Foundation, a key source of money for AdBusters magazine (which first called for the Wall Street occupation) and countless other anti-business groups. And he is directly tied to more than a few unions including the SEIU.

Beyond Big Labor and Soros “front groups,” as critics call them, is also a vast collection of socialist and Marxist organizations supporting the demonstrations. The Socialist Party USA, the Marxist-oriented Workers World Party, the International Committee of the Fourth International, and the Communist Party USA-affiliated People’s World are all publicly and openly backing the movement.

While the occupation movement purports to be “leaderless,” in reality, critics say its leaders and financiers are barely concealed. According to analysts, the protests — which are quickly spreading to cities across the United States, Canada, and Europe — actually represent a well-orchestrated operation being used by the very same elite “one percent” supposedly being protested against.

The “official” goals remain murky so far, almost certainly not by chance. But it is becoming increasingly apparent that liberty and honest money are not among the demands. Rather, bigger government, higher taxes, and an end to what remains of the free market system seem to be at the top of the list.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
Occupy Wall Street Protests Full Of Useful Idiot Communists And Socialists
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Occupy_Wall_Street_Protests_Full_Of_Useful_Idiot_Communists_And_Socialists/15972/0/38/38/Y/M.html
October 3, 2011 By Lee Rogers BlacklistedNews.com

It is becoming increasingly clear that the people who are taking part in the much publicized Occupy Wall Street protests are mostly a bunch of useful idiots promoting communist and socialist ideologies.  Even multi-millionaire propagandist Michael Moore and a myriad of rich Hollywood celebrities have come out supporting the cause of these protests indicating that the establishment has an interest in steering the direction and outcome of what is taking place.  This is one of the most obvious cases of controlled opposition that we have ever seen where the protesters are actually endorsing the collectivist ideologies that benefit the wealthy elite.  Communist and socialist ideolgies when put into practice have historically done nothing but centralize power and wealth in the hands of a few people as seen in the cases of the Soviet Union and China in the 20th century.

Most of these useful idiots protesters know absolutely nothing about how the global financial system works and know less than nothing about the central banking systems of the world.  Central banks like the Federal Reserve System and the European Central Bank have been setup by design to implement a debt based monetary system that has been used to turn the vast majority of people into debt slaves.  They create money out of nothing and then charge interest on top of the money they create out of nothing through loans.  Even the United States government borrows money from this system and because of that they have to implement draconian tax schemes on the people just so they can pay back the interest on the debt. 

What's ironic about this whole situation is that a central banking system is in fact a major plank of the Communist Manifesto as is a graduated income tax both of which have been fully implemented in the United States for almost 100 years now.  With this in mind you would think that these Communist protesters would have nothing to protest because the ideologies which they claim to be in support of have actually been in use for a very long time.  Unfortunately because these people are so ignorant and stupid they have no idea that the ideologies they are promoting are the very cause of the problems they are suffering from.

Even more laughable is the fact that some of these protesters are actually supporters of Barack Obama despite the fact that his 2008 presidential campaign was supported by a huge number of Wall Street insiders and Fortune 500 corporate interests.  The George Soros financed MoveOn.Org political action group is said to also be getting involved in steering the protests in a direction that will undoubtedly be as favorable to the establishment as possible.  Soros is a wealthy billionaire insider and an individual you would think these protesters would be against.  It is laughable that the protesters don't even question the fact that their so-called movement is now being supported by an organization that is financed by somebody as closely tied into the elite as Soros is.     

The protesters are at least correct about one thing and that's the fact that the big banks and brokerage firms on Wall Street are certainly part of the problem.  Many of these organizations in a real free market system would be out of business if it wasn't for the bailouts they received back in 2008.  The only reason they are still in existence is because of their insider links to the highest levels within both the Federal Reserve System and the United States government.  The fact that these organizations get multi-billion dollar bailouts is proof that we do not operate in a true free market system and is the reason why power and wealth has been centralized in the hands of fewer and fewer people.  Small and medium sized business would never receive bailouts even a fraction the size of the bailouts these high profile banking interests received and this fact alone shows that we are in the midst of a predatory monopolist economic system that favors the few and not the many. 

It is unfortunate that these protesters are entirely off base as to what the main problem is and also entirely off base as to what the real solution to the problem is. The real problem is the phony debt based money that originates from the Federal Reserve System which allows these powerful insiders to manipulate the economy and bailout their buddies if they get in trouble.  An institution that sets rules as to how money is created and dumped into the economy should be at the very center of this debate and it is laughable that these protesters don't even consider it an important issue.  The real solution does not exist within collectivist ideologies but instead exsits within true free market principles and within a monetary system not based around centralized control and debt.  Unfortunately, convincing these useful idiots of these principles may prove to be next to impossible.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately


Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
Occupy Wall Street hijacked by Communists
http://shtf411.com/occupy-wall-street-hijacked-by-communists-t17277.html

What started out as something for the good has turned into socialist/communist agenda. So sad, the people protesting best beware.

We Are Change journalist Luke Rudkowski caught up with filmmaker Michael Moore the other day. Luke asked the radical socialist if he has problem with the Federal Reserve. Moore retorted that we have bigger issues and advocated ending capitalism.

He didn’t say what he’d replace it with, but that doesn’t take a lot of imagination – a stale version of the same old legalized thievery radical socialists always demand.

Michael Moore either does not know that the Federal Reserve, the banksters, and their fiat money and fractional reserve banking system are the problem, or he doesn’t care.

Anyway, Peter Schiff put it all into perspective in the second part of Luke’s video.

Kudos, Luke. Another job well done!
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline tritonman

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,085
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
I am in the chat room from the protest live feed and am posting the link for .Alex's occupy the fed .  If you join up we can all help advance the message where it will really do some good.  Sign up and post up the infowars link for the protest this weekend. ;D
This is the link I am putting into the live feed chat. ;D
http://www.infowars.com/occupy-the-federal-reserve-movement-launched/
Let's flood the chat with it. ;D

Offline Optimus

  • Globalist Destroyer
  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,802
    • GlobalGulag.com
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
it's an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” – Patrick Henry

>>> Global Gulag Media & Forum <<<

Offline Optimus

  • Globalist Destroyer
  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,802
    • GlobalGulag.com

Sunday, October 2, 2011

Infowars Special Report: The Occupy Wall Street Protests


Alex Jones gives his analysis on the Occupy Wall Street protests that have been swelling for weeks. His worst concerns have been confirmed about the true nature of who has been steering the demonstrations.

Join Alex and his guests week nights at 7 PM CST on InfowarsNews.com

Download the MPEG4 Video Archive
http://www.archive.org/details/InfowarsSpecialReportTheOccupyWallStreetProtests-SundayOctober22011


“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
it's an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” – Patrick Henry

>>> Global Gulag Media & Forum <<<

Offline JT Coyoté

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,522
  • "REMEMBER THE ALAMO!"
Everyone!

Switch on the infowars nightly news on PPTV for today 10/5/11 and listen to the interview with G. Edward Griffin! WOW!

Okay, now that Wall Street and other FED locations are occupied, what next...??

Soros and Moore say MORE Socialism... even communism. The problem with that should be obvious to most, this would be no more than just another step backwards toward the middle ages, the path we have been trudging for the last 150 years, thanks to banker intervention and manipulation.

We have been marching backwards, digressing at an alarming rate back to the time of dark age feudalism; the turning point was the time of the Civil War. We have been backsliding 2 to 5 years for each year that passes since then, so time is of the essence. We must begin undoing this 150+ years of retrograde movement.  We must start by figuratively going back... yet forward into our past in the sense of reclaiming our ideology and correcting our constitutional course at the diverging points along the timeline. This will put things back on track toward our rightful future.

States armed with the 10th Amendment should and will begin reviewing, parsing, repairing, and repealing unconstitutional acts until we are over the threshold of the Dred Scott decision, the time before the civil war and have undone all of the decisions, legislation, and "global edicts"  that were applied by the globalist traitors to undermine the peoples Constitution and the republic it represents.  

We now know many of the offending liberty sucking "laws" that were enacted, and will find more as the 10th Amendment process continues it's winnowing as per the Founders design. Those who have a life time of studying this stuff under their belt, are aware of these historical turning points and know how they should be changed so we can finally resume our journey forward into the American future envisioned by the Founders.

As it is now, our political reality is on an unfortunate par with the political and economic reality of Europe in the year 1558... Today, they are called banks not castle vaults, they are called Presidents, Secretary Generals, Prime Ministers, and CEOs, not Lords, Barons, and Dukes...yet the kings, and the queens are still the greedy, selfish, power hungry, kings and queens we had then, with the same Salacious Crumb type minions creepily scurrying about at their feet.

German Chancellor Otto von Bismark, at the news of the bankers successful coup in America in April of 1865, said it right...

Oldyoti

"The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom.
There was no man in the United States great enough
to wear his boots. I fear that foreign bankers with their
craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the
exuberant riches of America and use it systematically
to corrupt modern civilisation. They will not hesitate to
plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos
in order that the earth should become their inheritance."

~German Chancellor, Otto von Bismark

Offline tritonman

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,085
The OWS group seems to be heavily trolling the forum for a couple of days now,  You know what they say about being over the target?  You take a lot of flac.  Expect more troll flac while the protest continues would be my guess.  They are obsessed with gaining Alex's support .  They sure have a weird idea of how to go about it is all I can say.

Offline Georgiacopguy

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,497
  • 'Cause it's a revolution for your mind...K?!
The OWS group seems to be heavily trolling the forum for a couple of days now,  You know what they say about being over the target?  You take a lot of flac.  Expect more troll flac while the protest continues would be my guess.  They are obsessed with gaining Alex's support .  They sure have a weird idea of how to go about it is all I can say.

Simple, if they can co-opt Alex, and gain some measure of control over him, they think that they can discredit him in our eyes, or better yet, get his listeners into their co-opted movement.
The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.

Offline tritonman

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,085
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
This seems to be the We Are Change NY feed of the OWS .  They are showing some police brutallity clips right at the moment that they took earlier tonight and it is mixed with periodic live feed shots when they get their batteries recharged.

Offline tritonman

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,085

Offline Optimus

  • Globalist Destroyer
  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,802
    • GlobalGulag.com
Here is the OTPOR/CIA connection to Occupy Wall Street:




Much more on the OTPOR/CIA/Soros connections:

***BREAKING: OTPOR/CIA/MAROVIC connection to Occupy Wall Street scams
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=218929.0

“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
it's an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” – Patrick Henry

>>> Global Gulag Media & Forum <<<

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,239
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.911truth.org
Re: Why are Tea Partiers doing George Soros' job FOR him?
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2011, 08:50:27 am »
Friends, do you not realize that, by pretending activist David DeGraw doesn't even exist, you're only doing Soros' job for him?

When the original Tea Party was hijacked by warmongering, police state-worshipping corporate fascists from the Republican Party, and when those who consistently fail to look beneath the corporate media-constructed surface of things began criticizing the Tea Party as being nothing more than a GOP front group, many in this forum were quick to point out to these critics that the Republicanized Tea Party was not the "original" or "real" Tea Party.

However, now that the very same thing has happened to the original Occupy Wall Street movement, this willingness to distinguish between (a) an authenetic grassroots political movement, and (b) the predictable establishment-financed astroturf movement designed to co-opt and derail the original movement has suddenly gone right out the window.

Why the double standard?

Instead of screaming "socialism" and "communism" all day long, shouldn't we be trying to join forces with those whom Alex himself has correctly identified as the legitimate, non-foundation-funded protestors -- i.e., people like Mr. DeGraw? Or would that spoil the fun of attaching red-baiting labels blindly and indiscriminately to anyone who criticizes Wall Street?

The ruling-class propaganda machine is playing you like a fiddle right now and you don't even realize it.

Just calling it like I see it, folks, so please don't blame the messenger.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,239
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.911truth.org
Re: Why are Tea Partiers doing George Soros' job FOR him?
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2011, 09:21:01 am »
Here's what George Soros -- and the Tea Partiers doing his bidding (however unwittingly) -- don't want anyone to know about:

-----------------------------

http://www.prisonplanet.com/protesters-target-fed-as-well-as-wall-street.html

Protesters Target Fed, As Well As Wall Street

Washington’s Blog
Oct 3, 2011
 
The protesters are not just targeting Wall Street and the big banks. They’re also railing against the Federal Reserve:



(See this for the background of this image by WilliamBanzai7.)
 
Indeed, at the “Occupy Boston” protest outside the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, protesters yelled their derision for the Fed:

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fV0YjQQzYk

Indeed, as David DeGraw points out, criticism of the Fed is one of the main motivations driving Anonymous to help organize the protests:

    On Mar 12, 2011, Anonymous A99 announced their first operation by posting a video to the AmpedStatus YouTube page. The effort was called “Operation Empire State Rebellion” (#OpESR). The video “OpESR Communication #1” stated the following:

    “We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement, which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.

    One-tenth of one percent of the population has consolidated wealth in unprecedented fashion and launched an all-out economic war against 99.9% of the population.

    We are not affiliated with either wing of the two-party oligarchy. We seek an end to the corrupted two-party system by ending the campaign finance and lobbying racket.

    Above all, we aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlement and World Bank.

    We demand that the primary dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy, effective immediately.

    As a first sign of good faith, we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.

    Until our demands are met and a rule of law is restored, we will engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience.”

Objectively – and without using any hyperbole – it is true that the Federal Reserve is largely responsible for destroying the economy. Indeed, many current and former high-level Fed officials and other top economic officials have slammed the Fed as well.

-----------------------------

"Pay no attention to those legitimate protesters behind the Soros-erected curtain!" exclaim George Soros' parrots in the Tea Party, "look only at these foundation-funded operatives who've been dispatched to hijack their movement!"  ::)

Once again, while ruling-class parasites play chess, everyone else plays checkers.

It's times like these that make me wonder why I even bother.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
Re: Why are Tea Partiers doing George Soros' job FOR him?
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2011, 09:22:26 am »
Friends, do you not realize that, by pretending activist David DeGraw doesn't even exist, you're only doing Soros' job for him?

When the original Tea Party was hijacked by warmongering, police state-worshipping corporate fascists from the Republican Party, and when those who fail to look beneath the corporate media-constructed surface of things began criticizing the Tea Party as being nothing more than a GOP front group, many in this forum were quick to point out to these critics that the Republicanized Tea Party was not the "original" or "real" Tea Party.

However, now that the very same thing has happened to the original Occupy Wall Street movement, this willingness to distinguish between (a) an authenetic grassroots political movement, and (b) the predictable establishment-financed astroturf movement designed to co-opt and derail the original movement has suddenly gone right out the window.

Why the double standard?

Instead of screaming "socialism" and "communism" all day long, shouldn't we be trying to join forces with those whom Alex himself has correctly identified as the legitimate, non-foundation-funded protestors -- i.e., people like Mr. DeGraw? Or would that spoil the fun of attaching red-baiting labels blindly and indiscriminately to anyone who criticizes Wall Street?

The ruling-class propaganda machine is playing you like a fiddle right now and you don't even realize it.

Just calling it like I see it, folks, so please don't blame the messenger.

Please start a thread on him. As far as I know, the tea parties never hired a CIA Eastern European terrorist to instruct our youth on how to destabilize a country so that no-court executions based on compromised evidence can be executed. The fact that Marovic is a key part of this operation (from day 1) is very important. The fact that the entire administration, many in congress, and the ruling elite do not seem to be trying to compromise the operation to bring it down (like they do with the tea parties) but rather to have it truly destroy the fabric of society and our very sovereignty sets it apart. But please let us know who the genuine leaders are because the MSM sure as hell ain't.

Furthermore, this is the exact gameplan the elite used in Egypt, a country of 80 million people and many Western influences. In less than 6 months, they turned the country into a horror movie with famine, rape, marauding gangs, mass arrests (in 6 months there have been more political arrests than 30 years under Mubarak) and total fear in every corner of the country. This is their master plan, and they likely will fail if we can (as you have pointed out) identify the genuine leaders from the elite operatives.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,239
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.911truth.org
Re: Why are Tea Partiers doing George Soros' job FOR him?
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2011, 09:47:47 am »
Please start a thread on him.

I probably will, but at this point I doubt it will do much good, because even though Alex himself has acknowledged there are legitimate elements within Occupy Wall Street being deliberately ignored by the corproate media, everyone else (it seems) has jumped on the "anyone-who-protests-Wall Street-is-an-evil-commie!" bandwagon (much to Soros' delight, no doubt). Such bandwagons tend to be driven much more by emotion than by reason, and so are almost impossible to stop once they've reached the momentum this one has.

Quote
As far as I know, the tea parties never hired a CIA Eastern European terrorist to instruct our youth on how to destabilize a country so that no-court executions based on compromised evidence can be executed.

You're making my point for me -- it wasn't the original Occupy Wall Streeters who hired this terrorist, but the same ruling-class interests who hired CIA-worshipping operatives from the Republican Party to hijack the orignal Tea Party and instruct conservatives about how great war, torture and corporate fascism are. Yet Soros-funded propaganda has apparently convinced you and most others that it was the original Occupy Wall Streeters who did this.

Quote
The fact that Marovic is a key part of this operation (from day 1) is very important.

Of course it is, but not for the reason most people seem to think. It's important because it underscores the fact that the elite have gotten so good at monitoring the opinions and righteous anger of the masses in real time, that they're able to co-opt and derail an authentic grassroots political uprising either the moment it starts or shortly thereafter. But everyone's having too much fun screaming "socialism" and "communism" to realize this.

Quote
The fact that the entire administration, many in congress, and the ruling elite do not seem to be trying to compromise the operation to bring it down (like they do with the tea parties) but rather to have it truly destroy the fabric of society and our very sovereignty sets it apart. But please let us know who the genuine leaders are because the MSM sure as hell ain't.

The one genuine leader I know of is David DeGraw. Have you read the following open letter of his?

     http://ampedstatus.org/open-letter-to-alex-jones-re-occupywallstreet/

Although he was clearly upset when he wrote it, and although this seems to have clouded his assessment of Alex somewhat, it's obvious he's the kind of person who'd be willing to come on Alex's show and at least try to resolve their differences and come to a mutual understanding. (If Ed Asner and Roseanne Barr are worth having on the show, despite their obvious disagreements with Alex, why not DeGraw?)

But that won't happen if we continue to let the establishment distract and emotionally manipulate us by waving operatives like Michael Moore in our faces.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,090
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
Re: Why are Tea Partiers doing George Soros' job FOR him?
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2011, 10:14:04 am »
I probably will, but at this point I doubt it will do much good, because even though Alex himself has acknowledged there are legitimate elements within Occupy Wall Street being deliberately ignored by the corproate media, everyone else (it seems) has jumped on the "anyone-who-protests-Wall Street-is-an-evil-commie" bandwagon (much to Soros' delight, no doubt).

There are very legitimate elements of Occupy Wall Street, and there is a full spectrum operation going on to use it as a tool to destabilize the country. Ignoring this factor makes little sense.

Quote
You're making my point for me -- it wasn't the original Occupy Wall Streeters who hired this terrorist,

Are you sure about that? The logos of the movement came right out of a CIA handbook. There are no demands and there likely will be no demands until there is a critical mass who will feel be easily manipulated through anger and hero worship, this is exactly what happened in Egypt and elsewhere.  

Quote
but the same ruling-class interests who hired CIA-worshipping operatives from the Republican Party to hijack the orignal Tea Party and instruct conservatives about how great war, torture and corporate fascism are.

The ones promoting a second term for Obama are also promoting War, Torture, and Fascism, but they are adding another ingredient...elimination of the constitution and elimination of capitalism. Michael Moore saying that and getting applause would be like Hannity saying 'nuke iran' at a tea party (ok, so you got me there).

Quote
Yet Soros-funded propaganda has apparently convinced you that it was the original Occupy Wall Streeters who did this.

Soros funded propaganda is not meant to convince me of this, it is meant to destroy all humanity, the guy needs to be investigated for crimes against humanity.

Quote
Of course it is, but not for the reason most people seem to think. It's important  because it underscores the fact that the elite have gotten so good at monitoring the opinions and righteous anger of the masses in real time, that they're able to co-opt and derail an authentic grassroots political uprising either the moment it starts or shortly thereafter. But everyone's having too much fun screaming "socialism" and "communism" to realize this.

They have to do this now because for the first time ever, the Federal Reserve is being audited. Don't you find it highly coincidental that a movement to end capitalism occurs at the same time the theft of over $15 trillion is being exposed?

Quote
The one genuine leader I know of is David DeGraw. Have you read the following open letter of his?

     http://ampedstatus.org/open-letter-to-alex-jones-re-occupywallstreet/

Although he was clearly upset when he wrote it, and although this seems to have clouded his assessment of Alex somewhat, it seems obvious he's the kind of person who'd be willing to come on Alex's show and at least try to resolve their differences and come to a mutual understanding.

I read the letter a few times and it seemed like someone just pissed off. His stories have been picked up in the past:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-%E2%80%9Cwar-on-terror%E2%80%9D-is-a-6-trillion-racket-exceeding-the-total-cost-of-world-war-ii.html

Quote
But that won't happen if we continue to let the establishment distract us by waving operatives like Michael Moore in our faces.

Well Ray McGovern was on yesterday and I think the issues you raised have been vetted with that interview. Thanks for letting us know about the complexity of the situation. More information about #OCCUPYTHEFED being the primary goal of this operation would be helpful, any distraction from that would likely be seen as a distraction from any legitimate movement.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,239
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.911truth.org
Re: Why are Tea Partiers doing George Soros' job FOR him?
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2011, 10:39:36 am »
There are very legitimate elements of Occupy Wall Street, and there is a full spectrum operation going on to use it as a tool to destabilize the country. Ignoring this factor makes little sense.

I'm not ignoring it, I'm merely not erring in the opposite direction (as others have) by falsely equating that operation with the entire movement. Isn't that the very same mistake left-wingers made when they falsely equated the Republican operation to hijack the Tea Party with the entire Tea Party movement?

Quote
Are you sure about that? The logos of the movement came right out of a CIA handbook.

Of course they did, just as the pro-war/pro-police state slogans heard at countless "Tea Party" rallies came right out of the Republican Party handbook. Does that mean we should pretend the original, non-Republicanized Tea Party never existed?

Quote
Soros funded propaganda is not meant to convince me of this,

No, but it obviously is meant to convince you to blindly assume that practically anyone involved with Occupy Wall Street is therefore guilty of being a CIA- or foundation-funded "operative" until proven innocent, just as Koch brother-funded propaganda was (and is) meant to convince the easily misinformed masses that the Tea Party was never anything more than a Republican front group.

Quote
the guy needs to be investigated for crimes against humanity.

Naturally I agree, and I suspect David DeGraw does as well.

Quote
They have to do this now because for the first time ever, the Federal Reserve is being audited. Don't you find it highly coincidental that a movement to end capitalism occurs at the same time the theft of over $15 trillion is being exposed?

Dude, you're preaching to the choir. I know the "controlled left" is a tool of the bankers -- just as the "controlled right" is.

All I'm saying is: can we please start looking beneath the media-constructed surface of things and stop making it so ridiculously easy for the establishment to derail each and every legitimate grassroots political movement before it even has a chance to start?

Hopefully that clarifies where I'm coming from on this.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline JT Coyoté

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,522
  • "REMEMBER THE ALAMO!"
Re: Alex knows the "End Capitalism OccupyWallStreet" hijack, is Rothschild BS
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2011, 02:29:19 pm »
It seems to me that We Are Change began the Occupy Wall Street.  I can't believe that We Are Change supports Soros, re-electing Obama, nor instilling Socialism in America at this time.

Obviously mainstream media is covering the government plants trying to get Obama re-elected and trying to co-opt the Occupy movement.  It's called propaganda & controlling the opposition.  I'm sure the government-lead co-opt team is all trained and ready to deploy, in advance, should any movement appear.

I really don't understand your criticism ES2012?  You seem to be mad because Alex won't run to NYCity or something?  There are many who can go there and spread messages to get the demonstrators up to snuff.  However, that still will not stop mainstream media from picking out and covering the "stagers" of deception.  What does it have to do with Alex, personally, and the opposition to tyranny?

Love, e

Soros and Michael Moore are attempting to take over the rally and turn it into a false paradigm pro-Communism anti-Capitalism RIOT in order to protect the Federal Reserve.

JTCoyoté

"The cause of America is in a great measure
the cause of all mankind. Where, some say, is
the king of America? I'll tell you, friend, He
reigns above."
~Thomas Paine

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,239
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.911truth.org
Re: Alex knows the "End Capitalism OccupyWallStreet" hijack, is Rothschild BS
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2011, 02:41:42 pm »
Soros and Michael Moore are attempting to take over the rally and turn it into a false paradigm pro-Communism anti-Capitalism RIOT in order to protect the Federal Reserve.

Indeed they are, and unfortunately an alarming number of end-the-Fed activists are actually helping Soros and Moore by falsely associating them with genuine activists like David DeGraw.

Hopefully what I posted above will help them to exercise a little more discernment.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline ronaldomoon

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 533
Geolibertarian - I'm glad to see that someone else here is looking at this thing logically.

This thing still has potential, but not if we just sit around and bitch about the establishment's involvement in it. We should be out there working to make this thing better. Every single person I've talked to in this movement is fully aware of where moveon.org, Soros, Michael Moore, and Obama stand in this and are putting up a LOT of resistance to this attempted hi-jacking. They are also very anti-FED. Just ask yourself which would be more productive - arguing on here or actually getting out and talking to people? Seems like a no-brainer...

Also - it seems like the people who are the most critical of this movement actually know very little about it and almost certainly haven't attended any of these occupations and actually talked to these people.

Offline Satyagraha

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,941
Still waiting to hear the demands being made by the 'occupy (fill in the blank)' organizers.
Are there any stated demands (beyond the slogans)?
Occupy Wall St. End the Fed. Then what? That's the part I want to hear...


And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

Offline Georgiacopguy

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,497
  • 'Cause it's a revolution for your mind...K?!
Still waiting to hear the demands being made by the 'occupy (fill in the blank)' organizers.
Are there any stated demands (beyond the slogans)?
Occupy Wall St. End the Fed. Then what? That's the part I want to hear...




Oh some of it revolves around forgiving ALL debt, a living wage for all, whether they work or not, healthcare for all, get off of oil NOW, switch to green energy NOW, ah hell, I will just copy/paste it for you;

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA
This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on September 29, 2011


As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.

***************

On its surface it seems all nice and great, but there are keywords in there such as solidarity, workers, unions that make me wonder just how close to communism these people are willing to go.
The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.

Offline JT Coyoté

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,522
  • "REMEMBER THE ALAMO!"
Still waiting to hear the demands being made by the 'occupy (fill in the blank)' organizers.
Are there any stated demands (beyond the slogans)?
Occupy Wall St. End the Fed. Then what? That's the part I want to hear...


The "End the FED" part is easy... to cure the ills the bankers have caused over the last 100 years will take some work. Yet this will give the congress and the state legislatures something Constitutionally CONSTRUCTIVE to do for the next 2 decades... Read this entire post and the quote at the end... then catch the Griffin interview from last night that will be concluded with part 2 on tomorrows infowars nightly news...

Oldyoti

"Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is
duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person,
his faculties, or his possessions."
~James Madison

Offline Satyagraha

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,941
The "End the FED" part is easy... to cure the ills the bankers have caused over the last 100 years will take some work. Yet this will give the congress and the state legislatures something Constitutionally CONSTRUCTIVE to do for the next 2 decades... Read this entire post and the quote at the end... then catch the Griffin interview from last night that will be concluded with part 2 on tomorrows infowars nightly news...

Oldyoti

"Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is
duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person,
his faculties, or his possessions."
~James Madison


Thanks JT - reading and will listen to part 1 then catch part 2 on tomorrow's news.
And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

Offline Georgiacopguy

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,497
  • 'Cause it's a revolution for your mind...K?!
Good stuff JT, thanks.
The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.