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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2011, 08:55:57 pm »
"If they dare."

They must be terrified! 8)
Paul absolutely crushed them all in the last after debate poll.  If he can do it again the nails in the coffins of the others would be much more evident surely.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2011, 08:57:34 pm »
an attack dog was sicked on Paul on big time, some boos when Paul was responding mostly applause
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2011, 08:58:44 pm »
Where are all the online opinion polls as to who won the debates?

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« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2011, 08:59:49 pm »
wait one hour
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2011, 09:00:44 pm »
Where are all the online opinion polls as to who won the debates?
It was CNN's debate and that is the one I am most interested in.  Paul won the poll following the msnbc debate by more than a two to one margin . ;D

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2011, 09:09:02 pm »
If Ron Paul would refine what he says about OBL and Al Qeada, I think he would win more people over that are Islamophobe hard headed. He should put a little more truth in it because he is using what CIA asset OBL is saying not an authentic Jahdist OBL (sp) is saying. He is playing the rules of the (official Story). He should saying something that is more truthful and not play by their story which is a lie. Is should include the info that we are supporting AL CIAda in Libya.

Other than that Ron Paul did a wonderful job.

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« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2011, 09:14:22 pm »
Ron Paul on what he would bring to white house  COMMON SENSE he said  A beautiful response.


On the 9/11 question he was answering with the truth, audience was not listening. The truth is hard to swallow, for many.
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They wanted to hear him talk about how he would get rid of the big scary turban men, while ignoring our own freedoms being stripped away. Besides, big scary turban men mad at us for having freedoms? It's okay; NWO will fix our "too much freedom" problem right up for them! Scary turban men can sit back and enjoy the show.  :)

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2011, 09:21:46 pm »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/12/tea-party-debate-_n_959142.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C95068
"A bit of a startling moment happened near the end of Monday night's CNN debate when a hypothetical question was posed to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).
What do you tell a guy who is sick, goes into a coma and doesn't have health insurance? Who pays for his coverage? "Are you saying society should just let him die?" Wolf Blitzer asked.
"Yeah!" several members of the crowd yelled out."

A dirty trick against Ron Paul(guilt by association) or just the Repugs being Repugs?

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2011, 09:22:02 pm »
Ron Paul on what he would bring to white house  COMMON SENSE he said  A beautiful response.


On the 9/11 question he was answering with the truth, audience was not listening. The truth is hard to swallow, for many.

On the 9/11 question, Ron Paul exposed the truth...

Bilderberg would never have been able to recruit so many patsies if we were not bombing them every day and putting military bases everywhere.

On the 9/11 question, Rick Santorum is a total dick because he made it seem like Ron Paul was blaming the American people rather than listening to him or reading what he wrote. Dr. Paul wrote legislation to use our constitutional right of reprisal to catch the ones who did this. That likely would have allowed true investigations into ALL OF THE TERRORISTS including the trilateral ones. Ron Paul has never, ever, ever blamed the American people, he has blamed the anti-constitutional foreign policy which is run by the Council on Foreign Relations and the Rothschild banksters. Most of this was exposed in the Reece commission investigations. It is that foreign policy which continues to push us into illegal wars, as they wrote about at the Carnegie Foundation since 1909. This is all on record.

My guess is that Ron Paul will have a press conference and get some books together for Santorum, Perry, Romney, and Gingrich to read.

Also, and this is most important...

Newt Gingrich again said the United States would be hit by a nuclear weapon and he blamed North Korea and Iran for it.

Newt Gingrich needs to be investigated for his pre-knowledge of events that 5 federal reserve banks have already been caught supporting...a nuke attack on the US


Okay, CFR, you want America to be afraid of Iran again?

Fine, who the F has been supplying Iran with their weapons for the past 40 years?

Who has been caught laundering money for nuke sales to Iran?

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......



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PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKSTERS CAUGHT RED  HANDED PLANNING NUKE ATTACK ON US SOIL!

False Flag Nuke plot orchestrated by Citi, BoA, JPM, Wells/Wachovia, BONY UBS using Iran and China as scapegoats Exposed

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/04/07/2009-04-07_iranian_nuke_plot_vaporized_in_the_city_-2.html
Tuesday, April 7th 2009


The Manhattan district attorney's office has smashed a sinister plot to smuggle nuclear weapons materials to Iran through unwitting New York banks, the Daily News has learned. Officials plan to unseal a 118-count indictment Tuesday accusing a Chinese national of setting up a handful of fake companies to hide that he was selling millions of dollars in potential nuclear materials to Tehran. "This case will cut off a major source of supply to Iran and it shows how they are going ahead full steam to get a nuclear bomb. Long-range missiles they pretty much have already," a law enforcement source close to the case said. "We think it is one of the largest suppliers of weapons of mass destruction to Iran." Experts say Iran, under the leadership of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, appears close to amassing enough nuclear material to make an atom bomb. A United Nations embargo bans Iran from acquiring the high-tech metals needed to make a long-range nuclear weapon a reality. The indictment will outline the financial conspiracy behind 58 different transactions, including shipments of various banned materials from China to Iran between 2006 and late 2008.

Among them:

    * 33,000 pounds of a specialized aluminum alloy used almost exclusively in long-range missile production.
    * 66,000 pounds of tungsten copper plate, which is used in missile guidance systems.
    * 53,900 pounds of maraging steel rods, a superhard metal used in uranium enrichment and to make the casings for nuclear bombs.

The recipient is believed to have been a subsidiary of the Iranian Defense Ministry. The suspect, who is not believed to be in the U.S., set up four bogus import-export companies that did business with six Iranian shell firms, one source said. "They took elaborate steps to conceal the identity of the shipper and the recipient," the source said. The deals went through "several" New York banks, which cooperated when the alleged plot was uncovered. "The New York banks were completely unaware," the source said. Authorities first stumbled over the scheme seven months ago in an unrelated probe into Iranian money-laundering through Lloyd's, a British bank. In January, Lloyd's paid a $350 million fine to settle accusations it "stripped" information from Iranian money transfers to New York banks, hiding where the cash came from. Officials said they suspected that money was also used to finance Iran's nuke program. "The important thing is to put sunlight on these deals," the law enforcement source said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN0745146820090407?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

* U.S. hits six Iranian companies hit with sanctions
* Chinese executive and his company indicted in New York
* Money channeled through U.S., European banks (Combines stories about indictment and sanctions)

By David Lawder and Edith Honan

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK, April 7 (Reuters) - The U.S. government on Tuesday slapped sanctions on a Chinese metals company and six Iranian companies suspected of collaborating on a scheme to transfer missile and nuclear technology from China to Iran.

A New York grand jury also indicted the Chinese metals company, LIMMT Economic and Trade Co Ltd, and its manager, Lee Fangwei, on 118 counts including suspicion of shipping 33,000 pounds (15,000 kg) of specialized aluminum alloy used for long-range missile production from China to Iran. Lee was charged with the suspected misuse of Manhattan banks employed to transfer money between China and Iran by way of Europe and the United States. The actions by the U.S. Treasury Department and a grand jury convened by the New York state prosecutor in Manhattan come as the United States has sought tougher U.N. sanctions against Iran to halt its nuclear program, which Western nations believe is designed for making weapons. Tehran says the program is aimed at increasing its civilian power capacity. China is bound by three U.N. Security Council sanctions resolutions forbidding support for or contact with individuals or companies linked to Iran's missile and nuclear programs. China and Russia reluctantly backed all three resolutions and say they are complying with sanctions. But U.N. diplomats say a number of Chinese, Russian and Western firms have continued to try to skirt the restrictions on selling sensitive technology to Iran. "Materials may be dual-use, but when they are sent to front companies set up by the Iranian military, and the defendants use false end-user certificates and dummy names, there's not much doubt that the use is for weapons," Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau told reporters. Morgenthau also said he would request the arrest and extradition of Lee, also known as Karl Lee and by several other aliases, from the Chinese government. He is believed to be at large in China.

SUSPECTED FIRMS BLACKLISTED

Morgenthau identified the U.S. banks as Citibank (C.N), JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N), Wachovia Bank/Wells Fargo Standard Centered Bank (WFC.N), Bank of America (BAC.N) and The Bank of New York Mellon (BK.N) but he declined to identify the European banks.

Morgenthau identified the U.S. banks as

Citibank (C.N),
JPMorgan Chase (JPM.N),
Wachovia Bank/Wells Fargo Standard Centered Bank (WFC.N),
Bank of America (BAC.N) and
The Bank of New York Mellon (BK.N)
but he declined to identify the European banks.



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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2011, 09:24:14 pm »
Perry's gonna get his clock cleaned in the general election vs Obama if this performance is any indication.  The CNN parasites/hosts are having to make a mockery of themselves to push the non-sense that they're trying to right now.

Perry got fully exposed as the murder for hire, toxic, child-killing corporatist villan that he is and these psych-op professionals are talking about jobs.  The cognative dissonance required to accept these twisted pressers is getting greater and greater.  More and more, the waffeling uninformed will silmply begin to ask questions and people like Perry do more to hurt the NWO's PR game then help it.
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2011, 09:28:51 pm »
Hey New Gingrich...it is not Iran we fear, it is your buddies at the Council on Foreign Relations!

SIBEL EDMONDS SPEAKS TO UK SUNDAY TIMES: SAYS U.S. OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN RELEASE OF NUKE SECRETS TO TURKEY, PAKISTAN, IRAN, OTHERS, POSSIBLY EVEN AL-QAEDA
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5518
Cheney & Halliburton Sells Iran Nuke Technology
http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.com/2006/05/know-your-bfee-cheney-halliburton-sold.html
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In these days when illuminati bankers are conditioning false flag nukes coming from Iran, a story that we should remember
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Dick Cheney Sold Iranian Oil Company Key Nuclear Reactor Components, Sources Say
http://worldnewstrust.org/modules/AMS/article.php?story...
August 05, 2005 By: Jason Leopold Independent Media TV

Scandal-plagued Halliburton -- the oil services company once headed by Vice President Cheney -- sold an Iranian oil development company key components for a nuclear reactor, say Halliburton sources with intimate knowledge into both companies' business dealings. Halliburton was secretly working at the time with one of Iran 's top nuclear program officials on natural gas related projects and sold the components in April to the official's oil development company, the sources said.
SNIP…
Now comes word that Halliburton, which has a long history of flouting U.S. law by conducting business with countries the Bush administration said has ties to terrorism, was working with Cyrus Nasseri, vice chairman of the board of directors of Oriental Oil Kish, one of Iran's largest private oil companies, on oil and natural gas development projects in Tehran. Nasseri is also a key member of Iran's nuclear development team and has been negotiating Iran 's nuclear development issues with the European Union and at the International Atomic Energy Agency.
SNIP…
Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran 's nuclear secrets and accepting as much as $1 million in bribes from Halliburton, Iranian government officials said. During the first round of interrogations in the judiciary, a huge network of oil mafia has been exposed, according to the IPS report.
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Trading With The Enemy
http://www.forbes.com/global/2004/0419/041_print.html
Matthew Swibel Forbes 04.19.04

If you want to get round export controls, just sell the product to a front company in Dubai. The middlemen will take it from there. On paper the shipment was harmless enough. Sixty-six American-made spark gaps--high-speed electrical switches used in medical devices to break up kidney stones--traveled from the manufacturer in Salem, Massachusetts late last summer to a buyer in Secaucus, New Jersey. From there, according to the export declaration, they were to be shipped to their ultimate destination in Cape Town, South Africa. But these spark gaps can also be used to detonate nuclear bombs--and it turned out that the goods were aimed at an end user in Pakistan, with a stopover in Dubai. The commercial capital of the United Arab Emirates, where trading activity accounts for the biggest single chunk (16.5%) of a $20 billion economy, has become a favorite diversion point on the Persian Gulf for shady cargo. With no export controls and hardly any bureaucracy at ports, airports and free zones, this entrepôt provides stellar cover for smugglers hoping to bypass U.S. embargoes.
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2011, 09:38:29 pm »
First of all thank you all for doing the play by play for those of us that can't watch tv right now. Thank you again.

I'd also like to point out that ever since Santorum got schooled on history by Paul he has been trying to equal the score with Paul. It's not going to happen but watch him try. Last time he did it to the point of excluding everyone else but Ron Paul and it was obvious.

Yes, I'm TV deficient and will have to wait... You all are doing an amazing job of description here however... please keep it going.  ;D

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2011, 09:39:02 pm »
http://www.voicemyvote.com/

cnn debate poll Paul is taking a beating please help!!!

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« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2011, 09:42:14 pm »
Only 259 votes cast thus far, we should easily be able to bring Ron Paul up near the top with just our votes alone in that tiny poll.
Still waiting on the cnn poll that will count the most.



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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2011, 09:52:34 pm »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/12/tea-party-debate-_n_959142.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C95068
"A bit of a startling moment happened near the end of Monday night's CNN debate when a hypothetical question was posed to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).
What do you tell a guy who is sick, goes into a coma and doesn't have health insurance? Who pays for his coverage? "Are you saying society should just let him die?" Wolf Blitzer asked.
"Yeah!" several members of the crowd yelled out."

A dirty trick against Ron Paul(guilt by association) or just the Repugs being Repugs?

In most states, in order to be licensed to practice medicine in that state, the doctor not only swears the Hippocratic oath to do no harm, but also agrees to give a certain percentage of his practice as charitable practice.  The same holds for hospitals, in order to get a state license to operate a medical facility... fyi

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2011, 09:53:41 pm »
I should also make note that the total number of votes has gone down on the voice my vote poll so that one is not problably legitamate.  At one point it was up to 269 a moment ago and now it is down to 268
It would appear also that almost no one votes in this tiny poll lol
If even the 72 members showing as being on line here voted it should be enough to put paul into the lead. ;D

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2011, 09:57:54 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/US/

That poll doesn't even have Ron Paul on the list... amazing...

Everyone vote for bachman.

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« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2011, 09:58:07 pm »
I should also make note that the total number of votes has gone down on the voice my vote poll so that one is not problably legitamate.  At one point it was up to 269 a moment ago and now it is down to 268
It would appear also that almost no one votes in this tiny poll lol
If even the 72 members showing as being on line here voted it should be enough to put paul into the lead. ;D

This is probably the official poll:

http://edition.cnn.com/US/
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2011, 09:59:23 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/US/

This poll does NOT even list Ron Paul at all!

Which GOP contender has the best shot at being elected president?

You get a complete bullshit 3 way MSM whore choice between Bachmann, Perry and Romney.

Also I second the rigging of the first CNN poll - In fact it looked like numerous Ron Paul votes were actually increasing Mitt Romney while Paul would decrease in percentage even though you voted for Paul!  f**k you CNN!
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2011, 09:59:56 pm »
This is probably the official poll:

http://edition.cnn.com/US/

Exactly -- someone take a screenie of this.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2011, 10:00:08 pm »
This is probably the official poll:

http://edition.cnn.com/US/

Unbelievable.  No Ron Paul in the CNN poll.  

Bastards.

Unbelievable, but not surprising.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2011, 10:00:36 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/US/

That poll doesn't even have Ron Paul on the list... amazing...

Bwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Ron Paul not even listed in this CBS Poll-However there is a "Someone else" box

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2011, 10:02:24 pm »
Bwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Ron Paul not even listed in this CBS Poll-However there is a "Someone else" box


NWO pawns CNN got smart to what happened to NWO pawn CBS.

They don't even have a "someone else" box.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2011, 10:02:42 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/US/

That poll doesn't even have Ron Paul on the list... amazing...

Everyone vote for bachman.
It's CNN, home of the controlled left, so of course they won't have Paul on it. I really didn't expect them to.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2011, 10:03:54 pm »
Ron Paul is absolutley mopping up the rest in every single one with the one excepetion of voicemyvote which is so small so far it is still to hard to say and the CNN one shown does not even list PAUL, it asks who is most likely to win, Bachman Perry or Romney. ::)
I think that is this same poll I was pointing out earlier, however I do not believe it is the official cnn poll as that is cnn international and we want the one from cnn/polotics I think.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2011, 10:04:02 pm »
Bwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Ron Paul not even listed in this CBS Poll-However there is a "Someone else" box


I guess they learned their lesson... don't put someone else on the ballot!

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2011, 10:06:21 pm »
Here you go, JT...


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul+tea+party+debate+&aq=f





Thanks 37... I'm on it!!!

That poll on the cnn international edition is such shit... shows only the top 3 globalist puppet mimics... such scoundrely pukes they all are!

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« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2011, 10:06:56 pm »
ROTHSCHILD'S AP AND AOL'S TIME MAG HAVE ALREADY DECLARED THE NEXT PRESIDENT
(WTF?)


Perry Assailed by Gop Rivals, Defends His Record
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2093036,00.html
By AP / CHARLES BABINGTON Monday, Sept. 12, 2011

(TAMPA, Fla.) — Attacked from all sides by fellow Republicans, Texas Gov. Rick Perry softened his rhetoric if not his position on Social Security in a snarky presidential campaign debate Monday night. He fended off assaults on his record creating jobs and requiring the vaccination of schoolgirls against a cancer-causing sexually transmitted virus.  Across a crackling two-hour debate, the front-runner in opinion polls gave little ground and frequently jabbed back, particularly at his chief rival, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.  But the criticism of Perry kept coming — from Romney on Social Security, from Texas Rep. Ron Paul saying the governor had raised taxes, from Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Sen. Rick Santorum assailing his executive order to require Texas schoolgirls to get a STD vaccine. (See a TIME video with Rick Perry.) It marked the first time in the summer debates that internal Republican differences dominated rather than a common eagerness to unseat Democratic President Barack Obama.  Especially on Social Security.  "A program that's been there 70 or 80 years, obviously we're not going to take that away," Perry said in the debate's opening moments as Romney pressed him on his earlier statements questioning the constitutionality of Social Security and calling it a Ponzi scheme.  The Texas governor counter-attacked quickly, accusing Romney of "trying to scare seniors" with his own comments on a program that tens of millions of Americans — including millions in the debate state of Florida alone — rely on for part or all of their retirement income.  The eight rivals shared a debate stage for the second time in less than a week, a pace that marked a quickening in the campaign to choose a challenger to President Barack Obama in 2012. The encounter was sponsored by tea party groups — the conservative voters who propelled the GOP to victory in the 2010 congressional elections, and by CNN.  There was no doubt which side the debate audience was on, though. Santorum drew loud applause when he said the current economy "would have to make a dramatic improvement just to be a disaster."

The debate unfolded in the city where Republicans will gather next summer to bestow the party nomination on a challenger to Obama.  Bachmann said she had "brought the voice of the tea party to the United States Congress as a founder of the tea party caucus."  Perry said he was glad to be at the debate with the Tea Party Express.  But it soon became clear that the presidential hopefuls were not only eager to court support from the most conservative voters but were anxious not to offend seniors and others who depend on Social Security and Medicare. None of the three who have gotten the most support so far this year — Perry, Romney and Bachmann — said they favored repealing the prescription drug benefit in Medicare, which has a large unfunded liability. Paul, asked the same question, turned his answer to a call for ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as ways to save money.  In the debate's first few moments, Perry and Bachmann courted the support of tea party activists.  Bachmann said she had "brought the voice of the tea party to the United States Congress as a founder of the tea party caucus."  Perry said he was glad to be at the debate with the Tea Party Express.  So much for the niceties.

Within minutes, Romney moved aggressively to press Perry on Social Security, saying the front-runner had previously called it a Ponzi Scheme, an absolute failure and unconstitutional.  Perry did not dispute the characterization. In his recent book he called the retirement income program an example of a federal initiative that is "violently tossing aside any respect for our founding principles of federalism and limited government."  Monday night, he said retirees and near-retirees are assured of receiving the benefits they've been promised — and should be — but changes are needed to make sure younger workers have any sort of benefit when they near retirement.  Romney wasn't satisfied with that, quoting others as saying the Texas governor's position on Social Security could spell defeat for the party as it tries to win the White House from Obama next year. Repeatedly, he pressed Perry to say whether he believes the program is unconstitutional. Just as insistently, Perry ducked.  Then he countered, quoting Romney as having said in his own book that if people did with their financing what had been done with Social Security receipts it would be a criminal offense.  "You've got to quote me correctly," Romney responded. "What I said was taking money out of the Social Security trust fund is criminal and it's wrong."  Social Security benefits are financed through a payroll tax that workers and their employers pay. According to the most recent independent forecasts, unless Congress enacts changes, benefits will have to be cut beginning in 2037.

Bachmann and Santorum were the aggressors when the topic turned to an executive order Perry signed in 2007 requiring the vaccination of Texas schoolgirls against STD.  Bachmann, whose candidacy surged and then fell back in the polls in less than a month, said that "to have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong. That should never be done. It's a violation of a liberty interest."  Perry said, as he has before, that it was a mistake to issue an executive order on the issue, but he defended wanting to have the vaccinations take effect.  Bachman didn't stop there. She said that "a big drug company that made millions of dollars because of this mandate" also had made a campaign contribution to Perry in Texas.  "The company was Merck, and it was a $5,000 contribution that I had received from them. I raise about $30 million. And if you're saying that I can be bought for $5,000, I'm offended," Perry retorted.  There was a brief letup in the crossfire when the subject of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke — no favorite of Republicans — came up.  Perry stood behind his recent comments that it would be treasonous if the Fed were printing money for political reasons.  Romney let it pass, as did the others on stage.


These articles are pre written and they just fill in some quotes, how the hell is it possible to write such horse shit so fast?
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2011, 10:15:59 pm »
"If they dare."

They must be terrified! 8)
I don't know about terrified but they indeed have not dared put up the poll tonight so far. ;D

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2011, 10:16:04 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/US/

That poll doesn't even have Ron Paul on the list... amazing...

Everyone vote for bachman.

I agree with that one! Screw their bullshit agenda!
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2011, 10:19:20 pm »
Unbelievable.  No Ron Paul in the CNN poll.  

Bastards.

Unbelievable, but not surprising.

I was just trying to find a cnn poll to vote in...THOSE SLIMY BASTARDS!!!GROSS!!! I dont know why I am still surprised...just amazed more people cant see how ridiculously biased the media is...even if Ron Paul was wrong about everything (he's not) we should elect him on principle because obviously we have a conspiracy in the media.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2011, 10:19:39 pm »
CNN DEBATE POLL:

WHO DO YOU THINK WON?

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CNN: THE MOST TRUSTED NAME IN SABOTAGING REALITY
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2011, 10:23:50 pm »
http://edition.cnn.com/US/

That poll doesn't even have Ron Paul on the list... amazing...

Everyone vote for bachman.
I hate the lesser of evil votes but it is only a poll and they really need to get it handed to them yet again lol so I think I will do the same. ;D
Unfortunatley they have romney way out in the lead on their faux poll.

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2011, 10:25:19 pm »
Here ya go poll out some aggression :D

http://ipollnews.com/

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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2011, 10:26:34 pm »
Does everyone realize how scared to death the Bilderberg Nazis are of their own shadow? Only a cowardly piece of crap would actually be so petrified as to not include a candidate in the poll. They already own over 99% of the MSM, but that is not enough, they need to own more, more, more.

Even with that 99% they feel as if they are defeated.

What that means is that all we have to do is continue to speak truth everywhere and they will go absolutely insane. They feel as if one sentence of truth will cause them to evaporate, wtf? Must be a total hell hole they live in. Talk about outlandish conspiracy theorists.
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Re: ***LIVE LIVE LIVE...Tea Party/GOP debate Ron Paul getting roaring applause!
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2011, 10:27:24 pm »
Attn: CNN Bastards
Umh! Me voted crazy lady. Yea! 6% - Just great. Other polls RP - 88 to 98%.