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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2008, 10:10:58 pm »
Don't you guys think Kucinich is just too far away from Ron Paul politically for this to be a viable pairing?

Kucinich's 'New Age' assertions turn me off more than his liberal stances.

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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2008, 10:13:14 pm »
Didn't Kucinich point his votes towards Obama?

Was that just in the Caucus, or what?

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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2008, 10:13:29 pm »
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Don't you guys think Kucinich is just too far away from Ron Paul politically for this to be a viable pairing?


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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2008, 10:15:54 pm »
I think kuchich needs to have more of the same views as Paul or vice verse for us to see a Paul/Kucinch running, they just don't quite match up on alot of things

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Re: Why Ron Paul Himself Is Not Demanding A Recount
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2008, 10:16:41 pm »
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Dr. Paul is doing this so he doesn't look like Al Gore in 2000 and get harassed in a smear campaign that would be similar to the "Sore/Loserman" crap during the Florida recount

No doubt. The smarmy neocons will all roll their eyes and chortle at "poor deluded Ron Paul and his crazy followers, acting like a recount will make a difference". It is a shame though, that we can't even count on an honest election in this country.
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2008, 10:17:36 pm »
Gotta give Dennis credit, disagree with him a lot but pretty good man

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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #86 on: January 10, 2008, 10:18:44 pm »
   Yea for Dennis.  Fraudulent elections are UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
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Re: Why Ron Paul Himself Is Not Demanding A Recount
« Reply #87 on: January 10, 2008, 10:52:47 pm »
Funny you should mention CIA operatives, I told one cavorting around campus he should stop being one before someone offs him. Not that I would do anything bad to a Fed  ::)
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #88 on: January 10, 2008, 11:07:52 pm »
Kucinich would not make a good running mate.Alex Jones would be better.
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #89 on: January 10, 2008, 11:11:05 pm »
This is exactly what Ron Paul should have done. I was telling people on the ronpaulforums that it wasn't about winning or getting 5th or 4th but knowing that our votes are getting counted correctly. This is awesome!

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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #90 on: January 10, 2008, 11:11:46 pm »
Cristianity,true christianity is not a perversion.i don't attack your faith,please don't attack mine
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Re: New Hampshire Primary Concerns '08
« Reply #91 on: January 10, 2008, 11:11:50 pm »
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #92 on: January 10, 2008, 11:13:36 pm »
exactly.
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Re: Why Ron Paul Himself Is Not Demanding A Recount
« Reply #93 on: January 10, 2008, 11:22:40 pm »
I suspect Ron Paul is privately asking other declared candidates like Albert Howard and Dennis Kucinich, who have no chance of making it in the general election, to file for a recount in New Hampshire. 

Dr. Paul is doing this so he doesn't look like Al Gore in 2000 and get harassed in a smear campaign that would be similar to the "Sore/Loserman" crap during the Florida recount.

That's my best guess of why the congressman isn't publicly demanding a recount.

Yeah, the first thing that came to mind was Al Gore when this all happened; but!

This is no longer about Ron Paul, this is about the integrity of our voting system

If he doesn't win, he should atleast do something to expose it, I think he owes it to us

Ron Paul is a smart guy, we'll just have to see what he will do

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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #94 on: January 10, 2008, 11:38:14 pm »
Well I don't know what watchman07's post has to do with this discussion but anyway. Yeah, I really hope Ron Paul does something, even if he didn't win the NH primary when they recount he still would have done something very patriotic by exposing the voter fraud. I mean everyone knows these primary's and elections are fixed but just being able to do something about would be huge!!
Yeah Chris, I don't blame ya for the revision, although it was a really good post, but getting into re;igiose arguments is bad for everyone, it just seems no one wins and everyone gets pissed off anyway.

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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #95 on: January 10, 2008, 11:45:58 pm »

My God is the creator of the Universe. The one who saved my mother from cancers grip, the one who's guided me for 29 years with all four arms and legs in tact. The one who was with me for an entire year when I was 17 years old in a state prison for selling a couple of hits of acid at a rave (AT 17 years of age! Yes, 17! Not even old enough to buy a pack of cigarrettes). The one who helps me every month, the one I can always count on, the one who makes my business phone ring exactly when I need it to pay the rent, bills etc). Who is my God? My God is a great God. My God is the one true God, the one true creator of the universe. But as long as I am trapped in this mortal body and my spirit is bound to the laws of this plane.. I am humble enough to understand that my God is far too great for me to understand "who he is" when my senses are restricted to 4 dimensions and 5 senses.

But I do understand "what" he is. As David Icke stated "Infinite Love Is the Only Truth - Everything Else Is Illusion" In a nut shell, that is who my God is.

wow chris, powerful!

thanks for sharing bro.

your tracks are that much more important for me!
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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #96 on: January 11, 2008, 12:09:35 am »
Holy Shit!!!!!!!!!!!

CHRIS ROCK AND OBAMA RECOUNT RON PAUL VOTE FRAUD SUSPECTED

25 sec - Jan 10, 2008 -  (8 ratings)
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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2008, 12:11:02 am »
NH Hand Count Statewide Election Recount 2004
Notice how to do a recount in New Hampshire!

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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #98 on: January 11, 2008, 12:20:45 am »
it probably better Paul isnt the one calling for the recount.

a 3d or even 4th party calling for it will draw attn from him.stopping any media
lashing aimed towards labeling him a sore looser.

this way when all is said  & done,if Paul comes out with more votes
he gets them cleanly.without all the nit picking and belly aching.

in the long run it make him look better.

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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #99 on: January 11, 2008, 12:25:43 am »
it probably better Paul isnt the one calling for the recount.

a 3d or even 4th party calling for it will draw attn from him.stopping any media
lashing aimed towards labeling him a sore looser.

this way when all is said  & done,if Paul comes out with more votes
he gets them cleanly.without all the nit picking and belly aching.

in the long run it make him look better.



I disagree, I believe not calling for a recount will hurt Paul and will cause him to lose support. Many people are upset with Paul not acting on this, Devvy Kidd has talked quite a bit about that today. I for one will not support a candidate that will not fight to support himself. At least when Kerry didn;t fight he had a reason, to take a dive. To not count the votes and to allow this to happen again and again cause "it will look bad" is foolish.

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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #100 on: January 11, 2008, 12:29:03 am »
I disagree, I believe not calling for a recount will hurt Paul and will cause him to lose support. Many people are upset with Paul not acting on this, Devvy Kidd has talked quite a bit about that today. I for one will not support a candidate that will not fight to support himself. At least when Kerry didn;t fight he had a reason, to take a dive. To not count the votes and to allow this to happen again and again cause "it will look bad" is foolish.
Well this is a good argument, but after the performance on CNN and at the fox debate, he kicks the shit out of the entire elite establishment more than any recount request could.

He fights for us more than himself and I am proud to support his message.
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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #101 on: January 11, 2008, 12:44:29 am »
It is amazing how powerful it is to see a true statesman amongst a bunch of high school actors.
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« Reply #102 on: January 11, 2008, 12:46:08 am »
After the New Hampshire primary, I wrote that my only satisfaction now would be the coming reports of fraud.

Now, I see that it is Hope itself that is greater than what is hoped for.


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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #103 on: January 11, 2008, 12:54:09 am »
Kucinich would not make a good running mate.Alex Jones would be better.
ive always thought alex jones would be president in the future but i can just picture the corporations cringing at the thought, that said kucinich and paul would be great.

"Alex Jones 2012" maybe? ;D

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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #104 on: January 11, 2008, 12:57:09 am »
exactly.
Well this is a valid argument, but after the performance on CNN and at the fox debate, he kicks the shit out of the entire elite establishment more than any recount request could.

He fights for us more than himself and I am proud to support his message.
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2008, 01:03:34 am »
This is Awsome.
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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2008, 01:04:52 am »
After the New Hampshire primary, I wrote that my only satisfaction now would be the coming reports of fraud.

Now, I see that it is Hope itself that is greater than what is hoped for.




Wow, powerful words!
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« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2008, 01:07:04 am »
Thanks, Sane!

It is an inspiring thread!

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« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2008, 01:36:48 am »
We need to make this Fraud Exposed.
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2008, 02:21:22 am »
Ron Paul says it in black and white:

"Even vote fraud is not beyond these people."
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« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2008, 02:22:02 am »
Ron Paul says it in black and white:

"Even vote fraud is not beyond these people."
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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2008, 02:29:11 am »
If you can, please donate to Albert Howard for his expenses. He needs and deserves our support.

http://alberthoward.org/contr.aspx




PS: No, I'm not above using photos of Albert Howard 's cute kids to make my point!  ;D
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Re: RECOUNT ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2008, 02:35:00 am »
Kucinich Asks For NH Primary Vote Recount; Obama Impact

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« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2008, 02:35:34 am »
If you can, please donate to Albert Howard for his expenses. He needs and deserves our support.

http://alberthoward.org/contr.aspx


PS: No, I'm not above using photos of Albert Howard 's cute kids to make my point!  ;D

That is a very active patriot!
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« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2008, 02:58:32 am »
That is a very active patriot!
LOL Yes, he sure is!  ;D

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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2008, 03:56:54 am »
KUCINICH CALLS FOR 'RECOUNT' OF NEW HAMPSHIRE BALLOTS
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5544
Cites Concerns About 'Unexplained Disparities' in Hand and Diebold Machine Counted Ballots
Says 'It’s about establishing whether 100% of the voters had 100% of their votes counted exactly the way they cast them'




From a Kucinich for President press release just out...
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homepage-items/kucinich-asks-for-new-hampshire-recount-in-the-interest-of-election-integrity/


Kucinich asks for New Hampshire recount in the interest of election integrity

DETROIT, MI – Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, the most outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesday’s election because of “unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots.”
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He added, “Ever since the 2000 election – and even before – the American people have been losing faith in the belief that their votes were actually counted. This recount isn’t about who won 39% of 36% or even 1%. It’s about establishing whether 100% of the voters had 100% of their votes counted exactly the way they cast them.”

Kucinich, who drew about 1.4% of the New Hampshire Democratic primary vote, wrote, “This is not about my candidacy or any other individual candidacy. It is about the integrity of the election process.” No other Democratic candidate, he noted, has stepped forward to question or pursue the claims being made.

“New Hampshire is in the unique position to address – and, if so determined, rectify – these issues before they escalate into a massive, nationwide suspicion of the process by which Americans elect their President. Based on the controversies surrounding the Presidential elections in 2004 and 2000, New Hampshire is in a prime position to investigate possible irregularities and to issue findings for the benefit of the entire nation,” Kucinich wrote in his letter.

“Without an official recount, the voters of New Hampshire and the rest of the nation will never know whether there are flaws in our electoral system that need to be identified and addressed at this relatively early point in the Presidential nominating process,” said Kucinich


The BRAD BLOG has just spoken with a Kucinich press spokesperson who was not yet aware of the full scope of the hand count being called for. As more information becomes available, of course, we will share it.

Until then, a few thoughts on the announcement, a concern about recounts in New Hampshire from an Election Integrity advocate on the ground in the state, and one set of eyebrow-raising new numbers...


In the statement above, Kucinich says that he's calling for a "recount". While it may seem a quibble, the fact is that until now, 80% of New Hampshire's ballots have been "counted" only by a hackable, prone-to-error, Diebold optical-scan machine. The systems were entirely programmed, serviced and controlled by one somewhat less-than-reputable company (LHS Associates). The machines are the very same model shown being hacked in the Emmy-nominated HBO documentary Hacking Democracy, in which the results of a live mock election were flipped via the gaming of the machine's memory card.

Unedited footage of that live landmark hack from December of 2005, as well as rare footage of LHS Associate's President John Silvestro, can be seen here. And more deep background on LHS and their troubling, and exclusive control over New Hampshire's ballots is posted here.

We've put the words "count" and "recount" in quotes, given what we know about these machines, and given the fact that approximately 80% of the New Hampshire ballots have not actually been counted or examined by anyone. To our knowledge, only Diebold optical-scanners were used for tabulating those ballots, without any secondary cross-check or audit, to ensure accuracy. In other words, until now, 80% of New Hampshire results have been "faith-based". The other 20% or so of the ballots were counted by hand at the polling place on Election Night.

We would also caution Kucinich and his team to closely inspect the chain of custody for the ballots in question, and what has happened to them, and the vulnerable op-scan memory cards, since the election two days ago, during the period that concern has been widely expressed about the seemingly anomalous results of Tuesday's election. It's important that the chain of custody be both secure, fully logged, and transparent.

Nancy Tobi of New Hampshire for Democracy, a Granite State election integrity watchdog group, previously noted her concerns in earlier discussions about the possibility of hand counting the state's op-scan primary ballots.

"We have no control over the ballot chain of custody and we have learned the pain from the 2004 Nader recount, in which only 11 districts were counted, chosen by a highly questionable person, and then nothing showed up," she wrote recently. "Now all we hear is how the Nader recount validated the machines. A candidate asking for a recount may well be a tool used to 'prove" everything was okay and then that candidate will be further discredited," she warned.

Finally, Kucinich mentions one of the reasons for the count is the "unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots." Indeed, there are disparities between the hand-counted and Diebold counted ballots, as we reported last night. Hillary Clinton seems to have received a full 7 point advantage in Diebold precincts, versus hand-counted ones.

However, as mentioned last night, that disparity doesn't necessarily indicate anything in and of itself. There could be any number of reasons to explain it. For example, it's the smaller and more rural precincts who count by hand, where the larger towns use Diebold/LHS Associates to count. It could well be that Obama is more popular in smaller towns, and Clinton in larger.

We do note, however, the following rather remarkably anomalous result which was reported late this afternoon by analysts from the Election Defense Alliance (EDA). As noted by one of the researchers, IT Consultant Bruce O'Dell:
Analysts at the Election Defense Alliance (EDA) have confirmed that based on the official results on the New Hampshire Secretary of state web site, there is a remarkable relationship between Obama and Clinton votes, when you look at votes tabulated by op-scan v. votes tabulated by hand:

Clinton Optical scan 91,717 52.95%
Obama Optical scan 81,495 47.05%

Clinton Hand-counted 20,889 47.05%
Obama Hand-counted 23,509 52.95%


The percentages appear to be swapped. That seems highly unusual, to say the least.

O'Dell notes the group is "proceeding with intra and inter-county results and demographic analysis to better understand what this extremely unusual 'coincidence' may indicate."

You can find earlier BRAD BLOG coverage of concerns regarding the New Hampshire Primary election results --- and the speculation of the pundit and MSM world on why the pre-election polls must have been wrong, while entirely avoiding the question of whether the reported election results were actually validated --- indexed on this Special Coverage item here.
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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT! Bradblog UPDATE!
« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2008, 03:58:11 am »
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10 minutes on this morning's Stephanie Miller Show. Discussing why things like actually counting the ballots in New Hampshire would have been a great idea. And on the lunacy and self-destructiveness of progressives (like this uninformed front-pager over at dKos, and his even lesser-informed followers, such as Markos himself) buying into the conspiracy theory that the dozens of verified, independent, multiple-sourced pre-election polls were wrong, but the unverified and uncounted election results, as announced, are somehow magically known to be accurate.

The results might well be right. But unlike the transparent and verifiable polls, no human being has actually bothered to count or even examine 80% of the ballots in NH. So whose the irresponsible crackpot here? Some of these folks are digging their own November grave.

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Re: KUCINICH ASKS FOR RECOUNT! Bradblog UPDATE!
« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2008, 05:50:59 am »
Even CIA Gatekeeper Kos cannot hide the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kucinich calls for recount in NH! Updated with some numbers
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/221155/524/
by frogmarchbush
Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 07:15:37 PM PST

A Kucinch press release via BradBlog:


Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, the most outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesday’s election because of "unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots."
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This guy would have made a great president.  He is not afraid to take on the big important issues.  Here's another snippet from the release:

"New Hampshire is in the unique position to address – and, if so determined, rectify – these issues before they escalate into a massive, nationwide suspicion of the process by which Americans elect their President. Based on the controversies surrounding the Presidential elections in 2004 and 2000, New Hampshire is in a prime position to investigate possible irregularities and to issue findings for the benefit of the entire nation," Kucinich wrote in his letter.

Update:  BradBlog has posted an update, which doesn't contain much more from Kucinich, but does include these interesting numbers:

We do note, however, the following rather remarkably anomalous result which was reported late this afternoon by analysts from the Election Defense Alliance (EDA). As noted by one of the researchers, IT Consultant Bruce O'Dell:

Analysts at the Election Defense Alliance (EDA) have confirmed that based on the official results on the New Hampshire Secretary of state web site, there is a remarkable relationship between Obama and Clinton votes, when you look at votes tabulated by op-scan v. votes tabulated by hand:

Clinton Optical scan 91,717 52.95%
Obama Optical scan 81,495 47.05%

Clinton Hand-counted 20,889 47.05%
Obama Hand-counted 23,509 52.95%

The percentages appear to be swapped. That seems highly unusual, to say the least.
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