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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 11:23:56 am »
An updated article in Huff - but what a skewed thing.  He's the victim in all this.

Again the family knew he was sick ansd also knew he had guns.

He's collecting on disability and "going to work"?

No word on when or where he got his guns....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/03/eduardo-sencion-ihop-shooter_n_1073677.html
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Eduardo Sencion, 32, was diagnosed in 1999 and declared permanently disabled two years later.

The Carson City sheriff's office detailed the deterioration of his mental state and the law enforcement agency's handling of the Sept. 6 chaos following 85 seconds of terror that left five dead - including three National Guard members - seven injured and a community traumatized.
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Family members said Sencion took his medication, and all but one of his mental health commitments were voluntary
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He immersed himself in the Bible, and gave his mother keys to his gun safe, warning her he was "getting sick."
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The night before the shootings, Sencion, who lived with family members, took his medication at 10 p.m. Everything appeared normal the next morning. His last comment to his family - "I should have gone to work today
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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2011, 07:22:15 pm »
It always comes out in the wash...that most of the people who have committed crimes like this have been on psychotropic drugs!   >:(

Of course many Americans have a short attention spans, so if the follow-up isn't within a few days, after the fact, no one remembers the event.
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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2011, 12:27:00 pm »
The Carson City IHOP was reopened today

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/northern-nevada-ihop-reopens-3-months-after-4-patrons-gunman-killed-in-carson-city-rampage/2011/12/15/gIQAVxRxvO_story.html

IHOP in Nevada’s capital city reopens 3 months after 4 patrons, gunman killed in rampage
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“It’s important for this community to move forward,” the governor said, and credited IHOP for paying employees for more than 14 weeks while the restaurant was closed.
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Florence Donovan-Gunderson, a 67-year-old resident of South Lake Tahoe, was killed while eating with her husband, Wally.

 Sencion then shot at five Nevada National Guard members sitting in a booth. Sgt. 1st Class Miranda McElhiney, 31; Sgt. 1st Class Christian Riege, 38; and Major Heath Kelly, 35, were killed.

Minutes later, Sencion — who had been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia in 1999 — fatally shot himself in the head.

Seven others were wounded in the shooting
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2011, 11:46:24 pm »
There were a couple of hints at the time of others involved:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034416/Nevada-shooting-Gunman-opens-IHOP-restaurant.html
Sheriff Furlong said there were concerns at the outset that the gunman was not working alone

http://www.rgj.com/article/20110906/NEWS01/110906010/Report-seven-shot-inside-Carson-City-IHOP?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE
from comments section:
"what about the shooter and i heard on the scanner there were possibly more than one"


Now a new media report has added this interesting detail:

http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/story/Alert-I-D-Joins-Forces-with-State-Leaders/pg3aYleHE0Oq0cy81O8muA.cspx
But for a time, authorities thought there was a second gunman on the loose within two miles of the state capitol building and the state DMV headquarters where hundreds of employees and customers were gathered.

Now why exactly did they think this?  Based on witness reports?  Warnings by police?  They are just not giving us the full story.

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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2011, 11:02:37 pm »
Here's a thought. Maybe there was no second suspect. Maybe there were just a few fake anonymous 'reports' of someone running around with a gun. Just like the screens of the air traffic controllers were filled with fake hijacked aircraft on 9/11 because of the various 'drills' they were running that day. This would of course have diverted police first responders on a wild goose chase, allowing the shooter at the IHOP to operate with a freer hand.

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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2011, 12:00:36 pm »
Just to reaffirm this guy "worked" at the "family" business while on SSDI...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/eduardo-sencion-ihop-shooting_n_951431.html
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Art Panchal runs a South Lake Tahoe motel near the small Mexican market where Sencion worked, which is owned by Sencion's family.

Panchal visits the market to buy jalapenos, tortillas and fish, and saw Sencion on those shopping trips.

"He was a happy guy. He was always smiling," Panchal said. "He would help people out."


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ihop-gunman-identified-as-local-man-eduardo-sencion/
Update: Man Who Shot 5 National Guard Members Filed for Bankruptcy Prior to Shooting
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Sencion’s family raised concerns about his mental health in interviews with investigators, Furlong said. Sencion worked at his family’s business in South Lake Tahoe
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The shooting shocked some who knew him, including Joe Laub, his lawyer in a bankruptcy filing in January 2009, who called it an “aberration of his character.”
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In the bankruptcy filing, Sencion listed more than $42,000 in outstanding debts for a car, several credit cards and some medical expenses. At the time, Sencion reported having $200 spread over three bank accounts and $923 in disability income, mostly from Social Security

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-carson-city-shooter-worked-at-family-market-in-south-lake-tahoe-20110907,0,7476617.story

Carson City Shooter Worked at Family Market in South Lake Tahoe

 32-year-old Eduardo Sencion worked at his family’s business, a market, in South Lake Tahoe.
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Officers say he then went to the IHOP around 9 a.m. Tuesday in his brothers’ van and started shooting.

The market is owned by Sencion’s brothers. FOX40 found a hand-written note in the window of the store stating they would be closed on Wednesday.

[ He has debts for a car but he's driving his brothers van.... hmmm... ]

Is this family here just for the time that they give the go signal to break out the AK's and kill us all????


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46014
The IHOP Shooting Rampage
Crazed gunman murders four before killing himself.
by John Hayward
09/07/2011
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According to the Reno Gazette-Journal, Eduardo Sencion is listed as “the registered agent” for the family company, Mi Pueblo Markets LLC.  When they tried to contact the company after the shootings, this happened:
 
In an initial phone call by the Reno Gazette-Journal to the Lake Tahoe Mi Pueblo Market on Tuesday, a man claiming to be Eduardo Sencion answered the phone and said he didn't know anything about a shooting and wasn't aware of anyone having the same name.
 
But in a follow-up call after a reporter verified Eduardo Sencion's address and employer, the man at the Tahoe market identified himself as Gilberto Sencion Gonzalez, 46. He said he was Eduardo Sencion's elder brother and admitted knowing about the shootings.
 
Gilberto Sencion said he arrived in South Lake Tahoe from Sacramento on Tuesday afternoon to find the Mi Pueblo Market closed. He said he had just found out about his relative's rampage.
 
"I feel very sorry about what happened," he said. "I feel very sorry about those people. I'm trying to find out what happened.  How would you feel if your mom or your dad did this thing?"
 
Gilberto Sencion said he expected more media calls.
 
"You guys (the media) are going to make a lot of money from this," he said. "In order for me to give you more information, you will have to pay me a lot of money, too."
 
He declined to say anything further.
 
That’s kind of weird, isn’t it?  This guy gets a phone call from a big regional paper shortly after his younger brother goes on a killing spree, and initially tries identifying himself as his dead brother, only latter admitting his true identity… before demanding the paper pay him for further information?  

I suspect a few twists in the Eduardo Sencion story still lie ahead.
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[ this writer think the weapons were from FandF : ]

Update: I had an uneasy suspicion about the weapons used by Sencion, but couldn't find the information needed to back it up.  Confederate Yankee seems to have found it, and drawn the same conclusion I was afraid of:
 
Don't expect the network news or cable television pundits make the connection, but the two AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles recovered from the scene of the IHOP massacre in Carson City, NV yesterday are the same weapons that Eric Holder​'s Justice Department and Janet Reno​'s Department of Homeland Security​ allowed to be smuggled into Mexico by the thousands

The bloodbath that had the local sheriff making comparisons to 9/11 is what happens in Mexico every single day, thanks to your government's criminal actions, actions that they are still desperately trying to cover-up.
 
The rifle used in the shooting was manufactured by Norinco and has not been imported into the United States since the early 1990s, but they are still commonly found on the market.
 
The Romarm Cugir found in his vehicle is the most popular weapon smuggled to the Sinaloa cartel under the protection of the federal law enforcement agencies involved in Operation Fast and Furious, and is commonly imported as the Century Arms WASR-10.
 
We do not know why Eduardo Sencion went on his rampage. All we know is that he had a history of mental illness, and was armed with the same weapons our government purposefully sent by the trunkload to murdering narco-terrorists.

http://www.laketahoenews.net/2011/09/s-tahoe-police-say-carson-city-shooter-had-history-of-mental-issues/


From the RGJ: The partnership papers for the Mi Pueblo Markets LLC list Eduardo Sencion as the registered agent for the company and Gilberto Sencion Gonzalez and Israel Sencion Gonzalez as managing partners. The business has locations in South Lake Tahoe and Stead.
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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2012, 07:19:56 pm »
Was this story was buried because the weapons were from Fast and Furious ?
Were the Sencion family members of La Raza?


This article was hard to find. a Mak-90 is a Chinese ak-47....

mak-90

http://www.kolotv.com/specialreport/headlines/IHOP_Shooter_Used_Illegal_Gun_131180703.html
IHOP Shooter Used Illegal Gun -  Reno

According to ATF at least one of his weapons that day was obtained illegally.
Posted: 3:52 PM Oct 5, 2011
Reporter: Terri Russell

“He is not reported as having a fully automatic weapon. He did not have it legally,” says Carson City undersheriff Steve Albertsen.

Albertsen says no one knows how Eduardo Sencion got the altered MAK-90.

The ATF traces it back to Mound House 5 years ago where it was sold to a private party [ The ATF? for operation gun walker? ] .  

Between then and September 6, the ATF says it was altered from semi-to-automatic weapon.

“The person that owns an automatic weapon has to have a permit through the ATF and the state and the county, we would know,” says Albertsen, and that’s to own it legally.

According to the under sheriff Sencion never applied for such permission to modify the weapon.

That's where the ATF's investigation continues as they try to figure out the chain of ownership and if Sencion may have done the alterations himself.

“What was on that computer? Is there anything interesting that we want to know. Was he making notes on that computer, was he on websites, was he talking to somebody that might answer some questions,” says Albertsen.

As for the other guns in Sencion's possession at the time of the shooting, besides the modified MAK 90, Sencion also had an AK-47, A Glock, and a .38 caliber revolver, the under sheriff says because they weren't altered, Sencion could legally have those weapons.

As far as the IHOP itself is concerned: it remains closed and the company is not talking about a plan yet. Some in Carson City say they want it leveled. Others say they want the restaurant to relocate in town. Others want it to open again, just where it is, The company may release its plan later this week.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2012, 12:55:54 pm »
bump for crazy killers on presciption meds
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Re: Three dead, six wounded in shooting at IHOP in Carson City, Nevada
« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2019, 10:03:22 am »
Bump for migrating gangs to El Norte ..

https://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/4604826-Chilling-video-of-IHOP-shooting-released/
Chilling video of IHOP shooting released
New police video shows the bloody scene, the shooter lying dead, and the helmet that saved one victim's life
Nov 4, 2011
By Sandra Chereb, Ken Ritter and Michelle Rindels
Associated Press

CARSON CITY, Nev. ? A man who stormed into a Carson City IHOP restaurant with an assault rifle was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia as a teenager and feared demons were after him in the months before he killed four people before ending his own life, according to newly released police information.

Eduardo Sencion, 32, was diagnosed in 1999 and declared permanently disabled two years later.
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Sencion, 32, was born in Mexico and moved to the United States in 1993. He spoke fluent English, graduated from high school, had no criminal history and was a devout Catholic, authorities said.
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He immersed himself in the Bible, and gave his mother keys to his gun safe, warning her he was "getting sick."
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Sencion's medications were changed this summer. About a month later, he approached a priest in the street and asked him for help, telling the priest, "They're telling me to do bad things."
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The night before the shootings, Sencion, who lived with family members, took his medication at 10 p.m. Everything appeared normal the next morning. His last comment to his family ? "I should have gone to work today."

Less than an hour later, a witness saw him in front of a beauty supply store near the IHOP restaurant. At 8:57 a.m., he parked his minivan in the IHOP parking lot and took out a Norinco MAK-90 assault rifle. He fired two shots, then a full automatic burst of bullets.

The 911 calls began streaming in to emergency dispatchers.

Sencion walked into the IHOP and fired 30 rounds. Florence Donovan-Gunderson, a 67-year-old resident of South Lake Tahoe, was eating with her husband, Wally that morning. They were the first to be shot. Florence Donovan-Gunderson died instantly, the report said.

Sencion then began shooting at five Nevada National Guard members sitting in a booth. Sgt. 1st Class Miranda McElhiney, 31; Sgt. 1st Class Christian Riege, 38; and Major Heath Kelly, 35, were killed. Their comrades ? Sgt. 1st Class Jeremiah Mock, 32, and Sgt. Cait Kelley, 25, were wounded.

Two other diners were shot and wounded.

Sencion then went out to the parking lot, where he shot a woman in the head as she tried to escape on her motorcycle. Her helmet saved her life, investigators said.

He went back to his vehicle, picked up a handgun and shot himself in the head.

In all, he fired 79 rounds. Investigators said he brought two assault rifles, two handguns, 20, 30-round loaded magazines and 595 rounds of ammunition to the scene.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5