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9/11 Memorial Thread
« on: September 11, 2017, 10:19:34 am »
Please "quote" post your favorite 9/11 posts / threads here on the 15 year plus Memorial anny ...

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/saudi-government-accused-of-funding-dry-run-for-911-jihad-attacks
Saudi government accused of funding dry run for 9/11 jihad attacks

September 9, 2017 3:21 pm By Robert Spencer

It also seems to have been involved in the 9/11 jihad attacks themselves. The 28-page section of the 9/11 report detailing Saudi involvement in the September 11, 2001 jihad attacks has finally been released (albeit with substantial portions still redacted), and it is now clear why one President who held hands with the Saudi King and another who bowed to him worked so hard all these years to keep these pages secret: they confirm that the 9/11 jihad murderers received significant help from people at the highest levels of the Saudi government.

The report states that Omar al-Bayoumi, who “may be a Saudi intelligence officer,” gave “substantial assistance to hijackers Khalid al-Mindhar and Nawaf al-Hamzi after they arrived in San Diego in February 2000. Al-Bayoumi met the hijackers at a public place shortly after his meeting with an individual at the Saudi consulate.” Around the same time, al-Bayoumi “had extensive contact with Saudi Government establishments in the United States and received financial support from a Saudi company affiliated with the Saudi Ministry of Defense.” That company “reportedly had ties to Usama bin Ladin and al-Qa’ida.”

Another possible Saudi agent, Osama Bassnan, who “has many ties to the Saudi government” and was also a supporter of Osama bin Laden, boasted that he did more for al-Mindhar and al-Hamzi than al-Bayoumi did. He also “reportedly received funding and possibly a fake passport from Saudi government officials.” The report says that at one point, “a member of the Saudi Royal Family provided Bassnan with a significant amount of cash,” and that “he and his wife have received financial support from the Saudi ambassador to the United States and his wife.” That ambassador was Prince Bandar, about whom the New York Times later noted: “No foreign diplomat has been closer or had more access to President Bush, his family and his administration than the magnetic and fabulously wealthy Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia.”

Then there was Shaykh al-Thumairy, “an accredited diplomat at the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles and one of the ‘imams’ at the King Fahad mosque in Culver City, California,” who also “may have been in contact” with al-Mindhar and al-Hamzi.

Saleh al-Hussayen, “reportedly a Saudi Interior Ministry official, stayed at the same hotel in Herndon, Virginia where al-Hazmi was staying. While al-Hussayen claimed after September 11 not to know the hijackers, FBI agents believed he was being deceptive. He was able to depart the United States despite FBI efforts to locate and re-interview him.” Who got him out of the country?

There is much more. The report redacts the name of “another Saudi national with close ties to the Saudi Royal Family,” but notes that he “is the subject of FBI counterterrorism investigations and reportedly was checking security at the United States’ southwest border in 1999 and discussing the possibility of infiltrating individuals into the United States.” There is no telling who this could have been, but Prince Bandar’s unlisted phone number turned up in a phone book of Abu Zubaida, “a senior al-Qa’ida operative captured in Pakistan in March 2002.” Abu Zubaida also had the number of “a bodyguard at the Saudi Embassy in Washington, DC.”

The report also mentions a CIA memorandum that “discusses alleged financial connections between the September 11 hijackers, Saudi Government officials, and members of the Saudi Royal Family. This memorandum was passed on to an FBI investigator; yet “despite the clear national implications of the CIA memorandum, the FBI agent included the memorandum in an individual case file and did not forward it to FBI Headquarters.” Why?

There is still more, and with this much smoke, there is almost certainly fire: the Saudi connection to 9/11 goes to the highest levels of the Saudi government.

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“Saudi government allegedly funded a ‘dry run’ for 9/11,” by Paul Sperry, New York Post, September 9, 2017:
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During a November 1999 America West flight to Washington, Qudhaeein and Shalawi are reported to have tried multiple times to gain access to the cockpit of the plane in an attempt to test flight-deck security in advance of the hijackings.

“After they boarded the plane in Phoenix, they began asking the flight attendants technical questions about the flight that the flight attendants found suspicious,” according to a summary of the FBI case files.

“When the plane was in flight, al-Qudhaeein asked where the bathroom was; one of the flight attendants pointed him to the back of the plane,” it added. “Nevertheless, al-Qudhaeein went to the front of the plane and attempted on two occasions to enter the cockpit.”

The pilots were so spooked by the Saudi passengers and their aggressive behavior that they made an emergency landing in Ohio. On the ground there, police handcuffed them and took them into custody. Though the FBI later questioned them, it decided not to pursue prosecution.

But after the FBI discovered that a suspect in a counterterrorism investigation in Phoenix was driving Shalawi’s car, the bureau opened a counterterrorism case on Shalawi. Then, in November 2000, the FBI received reporting that Shalawi trained at terrorist camps in Afghanistan and had received explosives training to perform attacks on American targets. The bureau also suspected Qudhaeein was a Saudi intelligence agent, based on his frequent contact with Saudi officials.

More, investigators learned that the two Saudis traveled to Washington to attend a symposium hosted by the Saudi Embassy in collaboration with the Institute for Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America, which was chaired by the Saudi ambassador. Before being shut down for terrorist ties, IIASA employed the late al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a lecturer. Awlaki ministered to some of the hijackers and helped them obtain housing and IDs.

The FBI also confirmed that Qudhaeein’s and Shalawi’s airline tickets for the pre-9/11 dry run were paid for by the Saudi Embassy.

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http://nypost.com/2017/09/09/saudi-government-allegedly-funded-a-dry-run-for-911/
Saudi government allegedly funded a ‘dry run’ for 9/11
By Paul Sperry
September 9, 2017

Fresh evidence submitted in a major 9/11 lawsuit moving forward against the Saudi Arabian government reveals its embassy in Washington may have funded a “dry run” for the hijackings carried out by two Saudi employees, further reinforcing the claim that employees and agents of the kingdom directed and aided the 9/11 hijackers and plotters.

Two years before the airliner attacks, the Saudi Embassy paid for two Saudi nationals, living undercover in the US as students, to fly from Phoenix to Washington “in a dry run for the 9/11 attacks,” alleges the amended complaint filed on behalf of the families of some 1,400 victims who died in the terrorist attacks 16 years ago.

The court filing provides new details that paint “a pattern of both financial and operational support” for the 9/11 conspiracy from official Saudi sources, lawyers for the plaintiffs say. In fact, the Saudi government may have been involved in underwriting the attacks from the earliest stages — including testing cockpit security.

“We’ve long asserted that there were longstanding and close relationships between al Qaeda and the religious components of the Saudi government,” said Sean Carter, the lead attorney for the 9/11 plaintiffs. “This is further evidence of that.”
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Paul Sperry is a former Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington.”
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Re: 9/11 Anny Thread
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 11:12:05 am »
The number one cause of all human poverty, misery, and death is not global warming. It’s GLOBAL LYING.

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Re: 9/11 Anny Thread
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 11:31:54 am »
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/350039-trump-and-first-lady-lead-moment-of-silence-on-9-11-anniversary
Trump, first lady lead moment of silence on 9/11 anniversary
 By Mallory Shelbourne  - 09/11/17 09:06 AM EDT

President Trump and first lady Melania Trump Monday led a moment of silence from the White House on the 16th anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

It is the first anniversary of the attacks since Trump became president
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Re: 9/11 Anny Thread
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 01:50:48 pm »
Is there currently a MSM news blackout? Here @ 2:45pm EDT, I have neither, FOX or CNN news coverage.

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Re: 9/11 Anny Thread
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 02:10:11 pm »
Is there currently a MSM news blackout? Here @ 2:45pm EDT, I have neither, FOX or CNN news coverage.

FOX live stream works. But they're covering Irma ATM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ozIM09eks
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Re: 9/11 Anny Thread
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 02:21:46 pm »
Oh, I have a lot of channels out. I guess it's a local cable TV provider issue here on Delmarva Peninsula. (the sky is falling, the sky is falling)

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 11:05:41 am »

Rather than "anniversary" being used, it would seem better to use "commemoration" or some other term that would represent reverent observance, or acknowledgement, not celebration.

rememberance
annual tribute (to the fallen)
memorial

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 10:11:51 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9eGjF5JZy0
Trump Interview Right After 9/11 Shows The Truth | Top Stories Today
Top Stories Today - Trump Interview Right After 9/11 Shows The Truth | Top Stories Today

https://youtu.be/PcKlPhFIE7w?t=109
Donald Trump Calls Into WWOR/UPN 9 News on 9/11
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Donald Trump said that from his office he witnessed a jetliner crashing into the World Trade Center on the morning of September 11, 2001. He spoke to WWOR/UPN 9 News via phone to describe what he saw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNodh9OlTrQ
Donald Trump interview 2 days after 9/11 at ground zero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STS7HBi5Cw
VIDEO: Donald Trump " It would take bombs to take down the WTC "

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Published on Nov 25, 2016
The day of the 911 WTC tragedy Trump spoke with channel 9 television in New York and made the obvious connections to controlled detonations in the buildings. Proving that he has been awake all along.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 10:50:31 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0
The Notorious Banned FOX 9-11-2001 News Footage Israeli/Mossad Links

This was aired then immediately banned and removed from the Fox archives right after 9-11, a lot have people still have never seen it and is a must for the first step in the process.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 10:55:44 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDIYC0TeCjI
What Really Happened on 9/11 and Why It's Still a Secret

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Published on Sep 11, 2016
I am not a truther. (And as Gore Vidal noted famously) nor am I a conspiracy theorist; I’m a conspiracy analyst. The official story of 9/11 is folklorish and mythological. It’s beyond unbelievable and is, like Napoleon’s definition of history, a set of lies that people have agreed upon. If you’ve never spent any time deconstructing the amazing rewriting of the physical evidence, eyewitness testimony, the laws of gravity, physics, structural engineering, architectural science, piloting, aerodynamics, evidence, common sense — well, you’ve missed one of life’s rare events.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjBcig5YLRE
Sixteen Years Ago Today Was My Red Pill Moment

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Published on Sep 11, 2017
Sixteen years ago today. It's not just me. A close inspection of the official account of that horrible show will show disbelief and disgust as to the official account and the investigations that were allowed to take place. The 9/11 Commission was hamstrung by official obstruction. It never managed to ascertain the whole truth of what happened on September 11 2001, the Guardian notes below
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2018, 09:49:20 am »
interesting article on 9/11:

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In 2002, Tenet swore to Congress that he wasn't aware of the imminent threat because it came in a cable that wasn't marked urgent'and 'no one read it.' But his story was shredded five years later when Senators Ron Wyden and Kit Bond forced loose an executive summary of the CIA's own internal investigation of 9/11, which stated that 'some 50 to 60 individuals read one or more of the six Agency cables containing travel information related to these terrorists.'

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-03/did-cia-saudi-arabia-conspire-keep-911-details-secret
Did The CIA & Saudi Arabia Conspire To Keep 9/11 Details Secret?

by Tyler Durden
Tue, 09/04/2018 - 05:22

Authored by Jeff Stein via NewsWeek.com:
https://www.newsweek.com/cia-and-saudi-arabia-conspired-keep-911-details-secret-new-book-says-1091935

It?s easier to bury uncomfortable facts than to confront them. So this September 11, the ceremonies marking the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, D.C., will simply honor the dead. In Manhattan, tourists and mourners will gather where the World Trade Center Towers once stood, lowering their heads in memory of the 2,606 who perished there. The services won't reflect the view that the attacks might well have been prevented.

But for hundreds of families and a growing number of former FBI agents, the grief of another 9/11 ceremony will be laced with barely muted rage: There remains a conspiracy of silence among high former U.S. and Saudi officials about the attacks.



?It?s horrible. We still don?t know what happened,? said Ali Soufan, one of the lead FBI counterterrorism agents whom the CIA kept in the dark about the movements of the future Al-Qaeda hijackers. To Soufan and many other former national security officials, the unanswered questions about the events leading up to the September 11, 2001, attacks dwarf those about the assassination of John F. Kennedy, because ?9/11 changed the whole world.? It not only led to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the fracturing of the Middle East and the global growth of Islamic militantism but also pushed the U.S. closer to being a virtual homeland-security police state.

?I am sad and depressed about it,? said Mark Rossini, one of two FBI agents assigned to the CIA?s Osama bin Laden unit, who says agency managers mysteriously blocked them from informing their headquarters about future Al-Qaeda plotters present in the United States in 2000 and again in the summer of 2001. ?It is patently evident the attacks did not need to happen and there has been no justice,? he said.

The authors of a new book on 9/11 hope to refocus public attention on the cover-up. Thoroughly mining the multiple official investigations into the event, John Duffy and Ray Nowosielski find huge holes and contradictions in the official story that 9/11 was merely ?a failure to connect the dots.?

Duffy, a left-leaning writer and environmental activist, and Nowosielski, a documentary filmmaker, have nowhere near the prominence of other journalists who have poked holes in the official story, in particular Lawrence Wright, author of The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11, the Pulitzer Prize?winning book that was turned into a gripping multi-part docudrama on Hulu earlier this year.

But Duffy and Nowosielski come to the story with a noteworthy credential: In 2009 they scored an astounding video interview with Richard Clarke, a White House counterterrorism adviser during the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. In it, Clarke raged that top CIA officials, including director George Tenet, had withheld crucial information from him about Al-Qaeda?s plotting and movements, including the arrival in the U.S. of future hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi. In The Watchdogs Didn?t Bark: The CIA, NSA, and the Crimes of the War on Terror, the authors assemble a compelling case of a government-wide cover-up of Saudi complicity in the affair.

In 2002, Tenet swore to Congress that he wasn?t aware of the imminent threat because it came in a cable that wasn?t marked urgent?and ?no one read it.? But his story was shredded five years later when Senators Ron Wyden and Kit Bond forced loose an executive summary of the CIA?s own internal investigation of 9/11, which stated that ?some 50 to 60 individuals read one or more of the six Agency cables containing travel information related to these terrorists.?

Clarke went ballistic. Until then, he had trusted Tenet, a close colleague and friend, to tell the truth. In 2009, despairing at the lack of media traction on the astounding disclosure, he wrote a book about the duplicity, Your Government Failed You, which was largely ignored. So when Duffy and Nowosielski came calling, he welcomed them.

    ?I believed, for the longest time, that this was one or two low-level desk officers who got this [information about Hazmi and Mihdhar] and somehow didn?t realize the significance,? he told them. But ?50?five oh?50 CIA officers knew this, and they included [Tenet and] all kinds of people who were regularly talking to me? Saying I?m pissed doesn?t begin to describe it.?

All these years later, it?s still unclear why the CIA would keep such crucial details about Al-Qaeda movements from the FBI. Clarke and other insiders suspect that the spy agency had a deeply compartmented plan in the works to recruit Hazmi, Mihdhar and perhaps other Al-Qaeda operatives as double agents. If the FBI discovered they were in California, the theory goes, it would have demanded their arrest. When the CIA?s recruitment ploy fizzled, Tenet and company hid the details from Clarke lest they be accused of ?malfeasance and misfeasance,? he said.
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http://www.diplomatmagazine.nl/2017/02/13/saudi-crown-prince-honoured-cia/
CIA Director Mike Pompeo and HRH Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia - Picture by SPA. Friday, 10 February 2017, Riyadh, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: HRH Crown Prince Mohammad bin Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, First Deputy Premier and Minister of Interior, was honored with the George Tenet Medal, issued by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of the United .


https://johnib.wordpress.com/2017/02/11/saudi-crown-prince-says-u-s-saudi-ties-strong/
Saudi Crown Prince Says U.S.-Saudi Ties Strong

By REUTERS

FEB. 11, 2017, 4:21 A.M. E.S.T.

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KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia ? Saudi Arabia?s relations with the United States are ?historic and strategic?, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef said on the occasion of the visit of CIA director Mike Pompeo to Riyadh.

This is the first reported visit by a senior Trump administration appointee to the kingdom.

?Our relationship with the United States is historic and strategic, any attempts to undermine that will falter,? Prince Mohammed said, according to state news agency SPA late on Friday.

Prince Mohammed, who is also interior minister, said his country will continue to combat terrorism.

In a recent phone call Saudi Arabia?s King Salman invited U.S President Donald Trump ?to lead a Middle East effort to defeat terrorism and to help build a new future, economically and socially,? for Saudi Arabia and the region.

(Writing by Reem Shamseddine Editing by Jeremy Gaunt.)

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CIA honors Saudi crown prince with ?George Tenet Medal?


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Earlier:

https://www.newsweek.com/spymasters-under-klieg-lights-397608
New CIA Documentary Puts Spymasters Under the Klieg Lights
By Jeff Stein On 11/27/15
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 naturally, when he sat down for his first on-the-record interview in more than eight years, Tenet tore into the failure of others to act on his warnings, from 1999 through the late summer of 2001, that Al-Qaeda was determined to strike targets in the United States. He could ?barely contain himself when talking about the unheeded warnings he says he gave the White House,? says Chris Whipple, executive producer and writer of The Spymasters: CIA in the Crosshairs, a surprisingly riveting documentary premiering November 28 on Showtime. 

Likewise, Tenet?s former deputy Cofer Black is still livid about those White House meetings more than 14 years ago. ?You know what pisses me off? When people call this an intelligence failure,? he says on the show, nearly jumping out of his seat. ?I mean, how is it that you could warn senior people so many times and nothing actually happened?? It was like ?The Twilight Zone,? he says.


https://yournewswire.com/fbi-report-on-dancing-israelis-proves-mossad-knew-about-911-in-advance/
FBI Report On Dancing Israelis Proves Mossad Knew About 9/11 In Advance
March 21, 2016 Sean Adl-Tabatabai




FBI Report On Dancing Israelis Proves Mossad Knew About 9/11 In Advance

March 21, 2016 Sean Adl-Tabatabai News, US 1
The 9/11 dancing Israeli's prove that Mossad knew in advance about terror attacks: FBI report says

A group of five Mossad agents posing as Israeli tourists were caught red-handed by the FBI celebrating and congratulating themselves on the morning of the 9/11 attacks.

According to one of several witnesses who reported ?middle-eastern? looking men videotaping the disaster as it unfolded:

?They were like happy, you know ? They didn?t look shocked to me?.

The subsequent FBI investigation discovered that Mossad knew about the September 11th attacks well in advance, and in the months following desperately tried to cover it up.

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The five Israelis claimed to be tourists temporarily employed by a local moving company, Urban Moving Systems (UMS), based in Weehawken, N.J. The owner of the business was also an Israeli, 31-year old Dominik Suter whom FBI agents briefly questioned, before Suter fled to Israel with his family. At that point, the FBI obtained a warrant and searched the UMS premises. They found evidence of Suter?s hasty departure, uneaten sandwiches, cell phones and half-full coffee cups, as well as stored furniture and the belongings of numerous customers who had been left hanging. FBI agents seized documents and at least fifteen computers.

The FBI placed the five Israelis in a federal detention center, isolated them from one other, and began to interrogate them closely. The investigation was driven by numerous discrepancies in their accounts, and by the men?s strange behavior in the period before the second plane impact when everyone still assumed that the first crash was simply a tragic accident. Some of the Israelis were given as many as seven lie-detector tests in an effort to determine if they had advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks. One, Paul Kurzburg, refused for weeks to take a lie-detection test, then agreed to take it, and promptly failed it.

During interrogation, the Israelis reportedly explained why they were happy that morning. They said it was because ?the United States would now have to commit itself to fighting [Middle East] terrorism, that Americans would have an understanding and empathy for Israel?s circumstances, and that the attacks were ultimately a good thing for Israel.? As we know, Likud-leader Benjamin Netanyahu made a similar comment when asked about 9/11. ?It?s very good,? Netanyahu told the press, then back-tracked, ?Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy for Israel.?

The FBI investigation took a serious turn when two of the men turned up in a US national intelligence database, indicating they were known Mossad agents. Mossad is the Israeli equivalent of the CIA. Also, two of the men (it is not clear if these were the same two) were found to be in possession of round-trip airline tickets. The two had arrived in the US from Tel Aviv via Athens on June 15, 2001, and were scheduled to return to Israel on September 12, 2001, the day after the attacks. Was the suspicious timing of their planned departure just a coincidence?

In March 2002, an un-named high-ranking US intelligence official told The Forward, a venerable New York Jewish newspaper, that the FBI concluded at the end of its investigation that the Israelis arrested in New Jersey had been conducting a Mossad surveillance mission on September 11, and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems, served as a front.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2018, 09:20:38 am »
One might ask if the Globalist program is sufficiently derailed would they go for pushing the big red button ?

https://www.infowars.com/is-a-nuke-false-flag-being-prepared-for-usa/
Is A Nuke False Flag Being Prepared for USA?
MSM hinting at possible attack
David Knight | Infowars.com - September 4, 2018

Newly released documents from the early 1960?s show that the USA was prepared for a pre-emptive ?no warning? attack against communist Russia and China with civilian casualties the primary metric for success. As we approach the anniversary of 9/11, mainstream media and entertainment are pushing a domestic nuclear holocaust as likely.

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2018, 10:20:17 am »
the anny is coming .... what they want you to forget how and when they took your liberty away ..
Use the crisis to further the global slavery agenda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScGZCqEyGM
Where was Larry Silverstein on 9/11?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8
Madeleine Albright - The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it for Iraq's non existent WMD's

From drudge:

reference: BAE Systems - Bribes - Prince Bandar - 9/11 attacks
also: 9/11 Memorandum Commission Select Committees 2004 - Israeli Surveillance

also

FOIA Documents reveal BAE / Saudi hand in 9/11

http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/
Inside the Saudi 9/11 coverup
By Paul Sperry
December 15, 2013

After the 9/11 attacks, the public was told al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors.

But the White House never let it see an entire section of Congress 'investigative report on 9/11 dealing with 'specific sources of foreign support' for the 19 hijackers, 15 of whom were Saudi nationals.

It was kept secret and remains so today.


President Bush inexplicably censored 28 full pages of the 800-page report. Text isn't just blacked-out here and there in this critical-yet-missing middle section. The pages are completely blank, except for dotted lines where an estimated 7,200 words once stood (this story by comparison is about 1,000 words).

A pair of lawmakers who recently read the redacted portion say they are 'absolutely shocked' at the level of foreign state involvement in the attacks.

Reps. Walter Jones (R-NC) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) can't reveal the nation identified by it without violating federal law. So they’ve proposed Congress pass a resolution asking President Obama to declassify the entire 2002 report, 'Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.'

Reps. Walter Jones (R-NC) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) can't reveal the nation identified by it without violating federal law. So they've proposed Congress pass a resolution asking President Obama to declassify the entire 2002 report, 'Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.'

Some information already has leaked from the classified section, which is based on both CIA and FBI documents, and it points back to Saudi Arabia, a presumed ally.

The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found 'incontrovertible evidence' that Saudi government officials '? not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom '? helped the hijackers both financially and logistically. The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war.

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The findings, if confirmed, would back up open-source reporting showing the hijackers had, at a minimum, ties to several Saudi officials and agents while they were preparing for their attacks inside the United States. In fact, they got help from Saudi VIPs from coast to coast:

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Democrat Bob Graham, the former Florida senator who chaired the Joint Inquiry, has asked the FBI for the Sarasota case files, but can't get a single, even heavily redacted, page released. He says it's a “coverup.'

Is the federal government protecting the Saudis? Case agents tell me they were repeatedly called off pursuing 9/11 leads back to the Saudi Embassy, which had curious sway over White House and FBI responses to the attacks.


Just days after Bush met with the Saudi ambassador in the White House, the FBI evacuated from the United States dozens of Saudi officials, as well as Osama bin Laden family members. Bandar made the request for escorts directly to FBI headquarters on Sept. 13, 2001 '? just hours after he met with the president. The two old family friends shared cigars on the Truman Balcony while discussing the attacks.

Bill Doyle, who lost his son in the World Trade Center attacks and heads the Coalition of 9/11 Families, calls the suppression of Saudi evidence a 'coverup beyond belief.' Last week, he sent out an e-mail to relatives urging them to phone their representatives in Congress to support the resolution and read for themselves the censored 28 pages.

Astonishing as that sounds, few lawmakers in fact have bothered to read the classified section of arguably the most important investigation in US history.

Granted, it's not easy to do. It took a month long letter-writing campaign by Jones and Lynch to convince the House intelligence panel to give them access to the material.

But it's critical they take the time to read it and pressure the White House to let all Americans read it. This isn't water under the bridge. The information is still relevant today. Pursuing leads further, getting to the bottom of the foreign support, could help head off another 9/11.

As the frustrated Joint Inquiry authors warned, in an overlooked addendum to their heavily redacted 2002 report, “State-sponsored terrorism substantially increases the likelihood of successful and more 'lethal attacks within the United States.'

Their findings must be released, even if they forever change US-Saudi relations. If an oil-rich foreign power was capable of orchestrating simultaneous bulls-eye hits on our centers of commerce and defense a dozen years ago, it may be able to pull off similarly devastating attacks today.

Members of Congress reluctant to read the full report ought to remember that the 9/11 assault missed its fourth target: them.

Paul Sperry is a Hoover Institution media fellow and author of 'Infiltration” and “Muslim Mafia.'


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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/fbi-report-implicates-saudis-in-911.html
FBI Report Implicates Saudi Government in 9/11
Posted on April 29, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog   

A 9/11 Commissioner and Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 say in sworn declarations that the Saudi government is linked to the 9/11 attacks.
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This week, the Miami Herald provided more evidence of a Saudi link:

A Saudi family who “fled” their Sarasota area home weeks before 9/11 had 'many connections' to 'individuals associated with the terrorist attacks on 9/11/2001,' according to newly released FBI records. http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2013/04/16/00/08/7P7jt.So.56.pdf

One partially declassified document, marked 'secret,' lists three of those individuals and ties them to the Venice, Fla., flight school where suicide hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained. Accomplice Ziad Jarrah took flying lessons at another school a block away.

Atta and al-Shehhi were at the controls of the jetliners that slammed into the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center, killing nearly 3,000 people. Jarrah was the hijacker-pilot of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.

The names, addresses and dates of birth of the three individuals tied to the flight school were blanked out before the records were released to BrowardBulldog.org amid ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation.
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[The Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham] believes the Bush administration protected the Saudis during the 9/11 inquiry [and] wonders why the Obama administration hasn't reopened the investigation and sought answers.

'Perhaps they feel that we can't afford to irritate the Saudis, especially with oil prices going up now,' he says. 'I don't know. Someday, I do believe we will get to the bottom of 9/11 and the Saudi government connections'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgSeOheKe5U&feature=player_embedded
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What Did I Breathe in on September 11?
http://www.esquire.com/features/9-11bag?src=rss

For more than five years after 9/11, a messenger bag coated with debris was sealed in a plastic trash bag. Then a scientist tested it and what he discovered will change the way you think about what people inhaled that day.

By Eric Gillin

Thomas Cahill squirms in his swivel chair. He's wearing a green-and-red wool sweater covered with pills, eyeing the white garbage bag on the battered metal desk. FedEx delivered the bag last week. Cahill is impatient as the photographer documents everything: the bag, the dust-collection machine, Cahill himself. Staring at the bag with a glint, the broad, six-foot former high school tackle looks like a kid who can't wait for his parents to stop snapping pictures of him near the tree on Christmas morning.

For Cahill--for a lot of people, actually, although they don't know it yet--this bag holds a lot of answers. It has been sealed shut for more than five years, and you should have heard the excitement in Cahill's voice when he found out it existed.

Man, five years. That long?

"Are we ready yet?"

He is sixty-nine years old. In the four decades he has taught physics and conducted air-quality research here at the University of California at Davis, Cahill has seen a lot. Five years ago, he stood near the burning, pissing rubble at ground zero for weeks, taking samples, testing, telling people the air wasn't as safe as the government said it was. To the Environmental Protection Agency, and even to the president, he became a pest, a role of which he is proud.

Today, though, today is different. "This is so exciting," he says to me, actually rubbing his hands together. "We have no other samples from September 11 except your backpack. It will give us a snapshot of what people were actually breathing, which will help the doctors enormously in knowing what to treat." He told me this over the phone, before I arrived from New York to witness the opening. Now, even with me standing there, one of the people who breathed in whatever he's about to discover, he repeats it. Exuberantly. "I'm sorry for you," he says, and he means it. "But I'm also delighted!"

My black messenger bag, which is inside the white plastic blob on the metal table, is Cahill's holy grail. When Esquire called, told him I had kept it in my closet for the last five years, and asked him to test it for toxins, Cahill was stunned. Thousands of tons of debris blew through downtown Manhattan as each of the World Trade Center towers collapsed on 9/11, but no one--not the city, not a lab at nearby NYU, not the EPA--seems to have any primary evidence from inside the plume itself. A heavy rainstorm on September 14 rinsed much of the floating debris from the air, and the city was already hastily sweeping the streets and scrubbing the buildings in a mad scramble for normalcy. Scientists hadn't even arrived on the scene. (Before the bag, the closest Cahill had ever come to finding a primary source was an air filter on an office desk, but the debris had fused to the filter and was too difficult to measure.) What the rains didn't clear was quickly contaminated by the stinky diesel trucks rolling in and out of ground zero and the chemical fire raging a few stories below the street. By the time the EPA began telling people the downtown air was safe, three days after September 11, any chance of isolating exactly what happened in the initial moments of the disaster--what was in the clouds that engulfed more than five thousand people, including me, in a matter of seconds--was presumed lost.

Why did I preserve my bag that day? I can't say. I had just seen a building that took six years and eight months to build aerate in twelve seconds. I wasn't really thinking, just doing. I had walked the twenty blocks to my apartment among the cavalcade of refugees heading uptown, all of us looking like pale, disentombed corpses spreading out among the living. Once home, I stripped, then showered, but my skin still itched, as if someone had switched my cotton towels with pink fiberglass insulation. I threw my khakis and sneakers away--no way the lady at the wash-and-fold was going to touch those. But not my Manhattan Portage messenger bag. Even though it was trashed, I stuffed it into a clean Hefty bag and stuck it on the top shelf of my closet. For a long time after, I joked about putting it in a Lucite box to make a coffee table. Why did I really keep it? I don't know. Maybe because I had just bought it. Cost me eighty dollars.

Cahill, a physics Ph.D. from UCLA, studies air quality out of a converted machine shop on the Davis campus, where in 1997 he founded the DELTA Group, a consortium of scientists who collaborate on atmospheric and climate-based research. His desk is loaded high with reports like "Characterization and Source Apportionment of Long Range Transport of Atmospheric Aerosols over Northeast Asia." Once, he took his wife, Ginny, and their kids on an impromptu family vacation to Mount St. Helens because it looked as if it was ready to pop. (Today Ginny is the deputy district attorney for water issues in California; both children perform environmental research at universities.) Most weekends, Cahill is in the field. It's not impossible that you have sped by as he and a few windblown students huddled on the side of a California freeway using the DELTA Group Slotted 8 DRUM Impactor, an instrument Cahill developed and built to test air particles.

With this device, he has produced some of the most respected studies on the air quality after September 11, including an explosive 2003 report that concluded the smoldering debris pile acted like a chemical "incinerator." With this finding, Cahill confuted the EPA's early dismissal of the plume as an "irritant" and its ultimate conclusion about the air in lower Manhattan: "It is not a problem for the general population."

"Someone told me my report ended up on Bush's desk," says Cahill. "Supposedly, he had a cow."

The DRUM sampler looks like something you'd keep in the trunk of your car to inflate your tires: a generic black case with a hose snaking out one side. Cahill will use the vacuum nozzle to suck the debris off my bag, and the machine will gently blow the dust past a series of eight drums, each coated with a thin strip of grease-covered Mylar. Each drum collects a different-sized particle, ranging from 15 micrometers, or microns (about one-seventh the diameter of a human hair), to 0.09 microns (the size of a virus). The strips will tell Cahill how many particles we have at each size.

How this is relevant to my long-term well-being: "Particles above fifteen microns, you just swallow them," says Cahill, who has worked with medical doctors to study the effects of airborne particles on humans. "From fifteen to about five, they go into your nose and your sinuses and you cough them up or spit them out. When you go below three microns, you start to have some lung-collection possibility--the particles end up in your bronchial tubes and upper lung. When they go down to half a micrometer, they go into your deep lung. And once they're in the deep lung, they're very hard to get rid of."

The tiniest particles can permanently pollute the human respiratory system. A September 2006 report by doctors at the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York revealed that nearly half of the people who worked at ground zero say they have a dry cough, shortness of breath, or tightness in their chest--all possible indications of a lower lung that has been . . . compromised.

So, Christ, if you figure most of those people didn't arrive until well after the actual event, what are the little particles that are in me?

Let's see. The South Tower was 1,362 feet tall and weighed five hundred thousand tons. It was hit by a Boeing 767 jet traveling at 590 miles per hour and filled with sixty-five people and ninety-one hundred gallons of fuel. The building burned uncontrollably at up to 1800 degrees Fahrenheit for sixty-two minutes. Then, all 110 floors--which were filled with 25,000 personal computers, 104 passenger elevators, 21,800 windows, 6,000 miles of electrical cables, 100 miles of heating ducts, who knows how many Bic pens and jokey coffee mugs, and the bodies of more than 600 people--fell a quarter mile straight down at 120 miles an hour, instantly aerating everything.

Finally, Cahill turns to me and says, "Ready to see what's inside your bag?"

Oh, my God, they're falling!"

Whoever yelled this, I didn't believe it. Then I turned around and saw that the gash carved into the South Tower wasn't belching fire anymore. It wasn't belching anything. It simply wasn't. I had left my office nearby when I heard what had happened and was standing one block away, next to the giant red Noguchi cube in front of the HSBC building. From there I watched the World Trade Center peel like an enormous steel banana.

Right after that, I decided to run for my life.

The low, groaning death rumble of the falling tower jolted through my body as if I were a human subwoofer. I sprinted east, toward the safety of the river, the street an asphalt fun-house mirror beneath my feet. A block into my escape, I made the same decision that got Lot's wife into trouble: I looked back. A twenty-story debris cloud loomed behind me like something Godzilla would fight, and before I could blink or close my gaping mouth, the cloud hit me like a swarm of gravel bees. I was in it and it was in me.

In a few seconds, the sky soured from a pristine blue to yellow to brown to a profound black. Day turned to night. The sky vanished. I stood there in the darkness, my eyes on fire as grit and sand worked its way under my eyelids and into my nostrils, where I got my first whiff of September 11--eau de construction site, with hints of sweet burning plastic and notes of Jiffy Lube. I was being buried alive, right there in the middle of Liberty Street. For five minutes, I gasped for air, but my lungs would not fully inflate, because this was not air. I would've had better luck taking a handful of dirt and inhaling that.

I fought off the adrenaline surge of panic as I tried--instinctively, I suppose--to find clean air to breathe. The wave of debris was passing, and the sky was brightening to a smoky tan fog. Finally I felt my way up the steps of the Chase Manhattan Bank building plaza, and the front door swung open. I promptly vomited concrete dust on the clean lobby floor. Somebody must have showed me how to get to the basement, where a hundred or so of the bank's employees were huddled, unscathed. A middle-aged woman offered me a Valium. Another held up some Xanax. An hour later, after the North Tower fell, a voice on the loudspeaker calmly instructed us to evacuate. So I walked home.

As soon as Cahill's scalpel breaches the plastic womb encasing my messenger bag, the unmistakable smell brings back all sorts of memories I'd rather forget. Bodies cartwheeling to earth from impossible heights. The strange laugh I let out when I found myself irritated, even during the apocalypse, by those f**king car alarms as they echoed down the empty canyons of lower Manhattan. My trembling hands smearing antibiotic ointment on my scrapes. The ladies in the bank building with their pill bottles.

In the years after, I thought about the bag every couple months--usually when I'd read another headline about those people getting sick from ground zero. And then I'd quietly realize that maybe I was one of those people, too, and at that point I would push the bag from my mind. I had moved on. Whatever happened to me happened to me, and I wasn't all that interested in hearing any more bad news.

But the headlines kept coming. Victims were filing more lawsuits. Politicians pushed for medical coverage for first responders and people who worked on the pile. Every day, it seemed, there was another reminder that whatever happened to me also happened to them.

"Hey! I think this is drywall!" Cahill yelps. "And this is probably concrete!"

I look down. For the first time since around noon on September 11, 2001, I see my old Manhattan Portage bag. A cluster of small buttons from punk bands like Operation Ivy and the Dead Kennedys--my youthful attempt to project an anticapitalist stance while covering capitalism for a financial-news Web site--adorns a corner. The bag is smaller than I remember and still slate gray from the dust. But there's not much debris falling off it.

"I hope there's enough here," Cahill mutters, smushing his thick glasses back up into his furrowed brow.

Over the next fifteen minutes, banal artifacts from an ordinary Tuesday morning emerge: an unread copy of Frederick Exley's A Fan's Notes, two pieces of junk mail, a Duracell battery to a digital camera I don't remember owning, a New Jersey Transit schedule and a receipt for a round-trip to Morris Plains, and a scrap of paper with a name and e-mail address on it. (It later turns out to be the address of a London woman who doesn't have a clue who I am and has to be convinced I'm not running a scam. I don't know who she is, either.) There is also a tube of antibiotic ointment covered with my own dried blood, a jokey laminated card granting me lifetime membership to Fight Club (like the movie), and a fifty-dollar check from a college pal I never got the chance to deposit.

I had been secretly hoping, although I had no logical reason to, that the bag would contain some old pictures of my mom, who had died nine months before September 11. Or maybe something that could provide some deep insight about who I used to be, before my lost year, before the nightmares started, and before I went on Paxil and Klonopin to make them go away and get on with my life. The bag contained nothing like this, of course.

But there is one more item inside: a wrinkle-free pinpoint-oxford button-down-collar dress shirt that is positively covered with debris. It is, of course, the shirt I was wearing on September 11.

"Oooh, we have plenty to work with now!" Cahill says, adding, non sequitur, "Did you know there's lots of lead in electrical cords? The Chinese use it to make the cords more flexible."

No, I didn't know that.

Before performing his first test, Cahill inexplicably rattles off a quote from Ghostbusters. To lighten the mood, I guess. " 'Why worry? Each of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.' I love that line," he says, chuckling. He checks the suction on the 8 DRUM Impactor and then sets about hoovering up small patches of debris from the inside of the bag.

"This is gonna woooork!" Cahill says, singing the end of the sentence. "I love this. What we're doing here hasn't been done before. For me, it's like the 'What do you got? What do you got?' kind of stuff that goes on in rap music. This is going to be the most famous backpack in all of New York City."

It occurs to me that part of his enthusiasm has to do with the splash this project will make in the scientific community, in which there seems to be a sort of gentlemen's rivalry. What do you got? Within seconds, a thin white line appears on the Mylar strip covering the first drum, where the largest particles are collected. Cahill checks each drum, working his way toward smaller and smaller particles. He stops at 1.15 microns. "See right here? This line is a little small. These are large particles," he says, jotting down that there were no signs of particles smaller than 1.15 microns inside the bag. "You're gonna live."

But as Cahill explores different parts of the bag, working his way from the hidden inner folds to the beaten exterior, the tests show smaller and smaller particles in greater abundance. By the time he's sucking up caked-on debris from the shirt, the tests consistently show clear bands at the 0.09-micron level. Normally, individual particles this small are invisible. But there are so many, you can see the line with the naked eye.

Cahill excitedly draws more pictures of my bag in his notebook and notes the location of each sampling and the exact time he vacuumed each up and put it in a dish. Eighteen samples in all. I think about how he told me how the smallest particles don't necessarily hurt your lungs; instead they enter your bloodstream, where they can ultimately cause heart attacks or cardiovascular disease. I ask him if after all this testing, he still thinks I'm going to live.

"Well, how bad it is depends on what the particles are made of, but getting particles that size into your system is never a good thing," he says. "One of the big mysteries after 9/11 was where the mercury went. Mercury bonds well with the gypsum in drywall. And there was a lot of drywall in that building."

So we know the particles are small, which is bad. But in order to find out what, exactly, they are, Cahill must send the samples to the Berkeley synchrotron, formally known as the Advanced Light Source, a particle accelerator the size of a football field that sits on top of a hill above the UC Berkeley campus.

At the synchrotron, electrons are sped up in a giant vacuum until they're moving slightly slower than the speed of light. As these electrons race around a giant circle, incredibly powerful electromagnets change the direction of the electrons. But in order to move like this, the electrons have to give off a lot of energy, which occurs in the form of X rays, a wavelength of light that is a million times more intense than sunlight.

These X rays travel down a silver tube, bouncing off mirrors and passing through other equipment that alters their size and shape and position. Like water from a fire hose, the light slams into Cahill's Mylar strips, which are mounted inside a lead-shielded room about the size of a walk-in closet. The X rays knock an electron loose from the different elements that make up the sample, each of which, in turn, emits a unique frequency--an atomic fingerprint, if you will--that tells the physicists exactly what elements are present.

For five and a half years, I avoided thinking about that bag in my closet, but over the two weeks I wait to get the results from Cahill's lab, I develop acute hypochondria. I wake up with a dry cough in the middle of the night and spend a solid fifteen minutes examining my tonsils for scarring. Instead of checking the latest Hot Stove news from the Boston Red Sox during lunch at my desk, I read EPA reports and conjure anything I can remember from AP chemistry. Before bed, I gorge myself on news coverage of September 11 victims, reading about their devastated families and then writing myself into the lead paragraphs as I drift off to sleep.

Finally, Cahill e-mails me an incomprehensible line graph tracking nanograms in the dust sample, plus a written analysis of the bag peppered with scary chemical formulas like CaSO4 . 2H2O and CaO2 and SiO2. Then he calls me on the phone. "I just want to tell you personally what a service you've done everybody," he says. My heart races. I wonder why he's telling me this again, wondering if he's stalling, wondering why he doesn't just come out and f**king tell me the bad news already. And then: "Basically, you just got a big blast of drywall. Which is harmless."

What? Come again now? Where are the freaky microtoxins that will enter my bloodstream and attack my heart? Where's all that lead from the Chinese electrical cords?

"We saw a tiny amount of lead on your bag," Cahill says. "I mean, it was tiny. We can say the lead levels present in the cloud itself were essentially zero."

So what did I breathe? Construction materials, for the most part: cement dust from the square-acre floors of the tower; aggregate materials, which basically means particulates of rock and gravel; and drywall, which is made of a calcium-based substance called gypsum. The coarsest particles, the ones I presumably spit up in the bank lobby, consisted of all three materials, but the finest particles--the ones that invade your deep lung, never to leave--were also mostly gypsum. And gypsum is safe for human consumption. Matter of fact, it's used to enrich bread with calcium, can be found in toothpaste and blackboard chalk, and helps coagulate tofu. Tofu, for chrissakes.

"That doesn't mean there's not some harm there, but it's a different kind of harm," Cahill says. "Your lung got loaded up with stuff and your mouth and throat got irritated for a short period of time. But that's better than bearing the enormous body burden of very fine metals working from your bloodstream to your heart."

Evidently, these very fine metals didn't enter the air above lower Manhattan en masse until weeks later, when all those smashed computer parts, electrical cords, ceiling tiles, and ballpoint pens began to smolder at extremely high temperatures deep below the street. When the South Tower came down, the massive concrete floors fell like a giant stack of pancakes, slamming into one another and driving the contents of the building straight down, but the air in the building blew out the sides, like a balloon popping when a fat man sits on it. The wind that the building exhaled was hurricane force, instantly aerating the drywall and the glass and some of the concrete, which coated me a few seconds later. "It's no different from when you blow up an old thirty-story hotel," says Cahill. "That's the same kind of dust cloud. Heck, the older buildings are probably worse because they have more asbestos."

When Cahill's done, I have a weird thought: Good news! About September 11! Not a lot of people can say that. I hang up the phone and decide to go for a little run around the outside of the building. It's approximately 20 degrees outside, but I'm too excited to sit behind a desk and get on with my life just then. The bogeyman is out of my closet. I'm not one of those people who is going to get sick from September 11 after all. Not yet, anyway. Sure, there are some things we don't know and may never know. Like the kids who grew up at Love Canal or under high-tension power lines, I might wake up in a few years with some unexplainable sickness, some crippling respiratory illness. What are you gonna do? For now, all I want is to feel the air rush in and out of my lungs.

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I believe this story is just another cover-up I checked out Mr. Cahill's credentials:  http://www.physics.ucdavis.edu/Text/Cahill.html

What says any of you about this story?
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
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https://www.newstarget.com/2016-05-09-truth-about-911-begins-to-emerge-mini-nukes-planned-demolition-tritium-at-ground-zero-and-more.html
Truth about 9/11 begins to emerge? mini-nukes, planned demolition, tritium at ground zero and more
05/09/2016 / By newstarget

Although it?s now public knowledge that former Florida Sen. Bob Graham told the Tampa Bay Times that the secret 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission report are poised to be released within the next few months, one can only question what the White House?s new and urgent motive for their release is.

One thing comes to mind, right off the bat, and that is the fact that strong evidence exists suggesting that up to three thermonuclear devices were detonated at the World Trade Center site on 9/11, hence the nickname ?Ground Zero.?
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That?s right, when the not so secret 28 pages are actually released, in a few months, they will likely show Saudi involvement and government foreknowledge, like we already knew.

So tell us something we didn?t know; like the fact that a Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Department of Energy, study found high trace levels of tritium inside the WTC complex after the attack. Not only were abnormal levels of tritium found inside the WTC complex, in the basement of ?WTC 6? and the ?storm sewer,? but they were also found in the water.

... I am not saying that micro nukes were solely responsible for bringing down the towers ? and IMO were likely only used at the base of Towers 1 and 2 and possible the base of building 7 and were strategically placed 50 feet below street level, somewhere in the basements of the buildings or subway access tunnels. This would also explain numerous eyewitness reports of ?large? explosions in the basement or ?lobby? of the towers.

It has also been proven that Nano-thermite was used and was present in dust samples, less than 2 microns in diameter, that were taken from the WTC site after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks as pointed out early on by Richard Gage of the grassroots organization Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Moreover there are also signs that advanced barometric bomb technology, which uses triggering devices derived from the U.S. Nuclear Weapons Program, was also deployed in the attack ? technology which incorporates gaseous elements in a ?yellowish, brownish combustible mixture? and uses Aluminum Silicate Red Oxide and other ingredients? that would have surrounded and permeated the air around key structural columns on all floors before being triggered by a ?specific high-voltage pattern? which the element combination is responsive to.
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So if you?ve got this cloud permeating all the way around the first floor, wherever it is, anything within its path gets crushed, imploded, to dust instantaneously. And when that happens of course there is nothing left to hold up the upper floors above, so bang, they come down like a pancake.?
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The fact that many of the first responders are now dead, if not very sick, does not sound like the byproduct of a falling building, but rather sounds more like they got a massive dose of deadly radiation. Most of the responders have died of blood cancer and Thyroid cancer, consistent with heavy radiation exposure.
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Additionally the fact that the WTC buildings were pulverized into a fine dust cannot be ignored. This is a tell-tale sign of a high energy release typical of a nuclear explosion. Eyewitness accounts and personal testimony indicate that people were thrown an entire city block from what was described as a warm wind just as the towers begin to collapse.
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There were also multiple reports of ?hanging skin? or ?melted skin? on victims around ground zero. This was a common occurrence in the Hiroshima blast.
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earlier:

https://www.intellihub.com/use-micro-nukes-takedown-wtc-complex-911-different-eyes/
The use of micro-nukes to take-down the WTC complex ? 9/11 through different eyes

The thirteenth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States fall later this year, surprisingly we still have many unanswered questions
By Staff Writer -
March 1, 2014

... , many independent investigations have actually been conducted, including one by the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The group, composed of over a thousand credentialed architects and engineers, is determined to find out just what caused the buildings in the World Trade Center complex to collapse at near free-fall speeds back in 2001.

While the group?s spokesman Richard Gage, who I have interviewed several times, maintains that nano-thermite was used to bring down the towers. Which very well may be true, however there may have been other weapons used in conduction with the nano-thermite to knockout the main cores of the buildings in order to achieve the intended effect, minimizing collateral damage in the neighborhood.
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... the actual impact from the alleged passenger planes did not cause the collapse of the WTC?s towers 1 and 2 that stood proud above the New York skyline, nor did the jet fuel or fires throughout the buildings. In fact, we can clearly see that this was not the case, because the tops of the buildings actually started to collapse first, dustifying themselves in mid-air as reported by Dr. Judy Wood who conducted an independent investigation.

However, interestingly enough, it?s also a fact that micro-nukes exist, and have since the 1950′s, opening an entirely new can of worms for some researchers.
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 In fact, seismic readings from that day even indicate that at least 3 large man-made explosions, possibly nuclear by signature, took place underground the WTC complex. Could these be the actual blast that took out the cores of buildings 1, 2 and 7 in the WTC complex? Is this what the U.S. government has been hiding all along?

Interestingly, previous tests have been conducted by factions of the U.S. government in which they used micro-nukes to demolish rather large buildings.  The results were astonishing to say the least, almost a perfect mirror of the collapse of buildings 1, 2, and 7 that took place in Sept. of 2001.

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2018, 10:53:30 am »
Amazing how it took 17 years and 180 million dollars to restore a subway station at "Ground Zero"



http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/9/prweb11097356.htm
Acclaimed 9/11 Photographer Gary Suson to Conduct 'Final' Press Interviews
 New York, New York (PRWEB) September 09, 2013

After 2013, Official Ground Zero Photographer Suson Will No Longer Give 9/11 Media Interviews

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 Suson plans to release at some point rare, unseen video footage from his explorations of the PATH subway trains and tunnels far below Ground Zero from the Winter of 2001-2. "It is creepy footage; the subway below WTC was the most dangerous place to be at Ground Zero." Suson found & photographed the "GHOST TRAIN" at Ground Zero, the last subway train to pull into the World Trade Center stop and let passengers off before the towers collapsed on 9/11. One night at 3 A.M. in the pitch black, mangled tunnels Suson got lost for hours and shot video of himself trying to find his way out. "Looking back, I was crazy to be down there. It could collapse at any time and the freon vapors & chemicals were higher down there. It was toxic."

Gary Marlon Suson no longer shoots photography and is spending most his time these days on his WTC-related health issues, including COPD (Asthma), Chronic Fatigue (CFS Syndrome) and PTSD. "It's a full-time job," says Suson. He has a small staff who run the daily operations at Ground Zero Museum Workshop, which was just included in Trip Advisor's coveted "Top 25 Museums in the USA" list as well as USA TODAY'S "10 BEST" list of NYC attractions, making it to #5. Suson is currently in talks with major Las Vegas casinos to produce a massive, permanent West Coast 9/11 Museum.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/08/new-york-city-reopens-subway-station-destroyed-in-911-terror-attack.html
New York City reopens subway station destroyed in 9/11 terror attack
By Robert Gearty | Fox News


New York City's Cortlandt Street subway station was destroyed in the 9/11 terror attack 17 years ago.  (New York Transit Authority)

A New York City subway station has finally reopened, 17 years after being shuttered when terrorists destroyed the World Trade Center in the 9/11 terror attack.

The Cortlandt Street station on the No. 1 line ran under the World Trade Center.
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The new stop, which was opened Saturday, will now be known as WTC Cortlandt in honor of the site, according to reports.

The station took so long to reopen because the Port Authority kept it shuttered while it was busy working on the rest of the reconstruction of the World Trade Center complex, the New York Post reported.

The station cost $181.8 million and features a mosaic by artist Ann Hamilton including text from the 1776 Declaration of Independence, The New York Times reported.

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earlier:

https://www.propertycasualty360.com/2016/09/07/9-11-attacks-15-years-later-a-look-at-losses-by-th/?slreturn=20180809115521
9/11 attacks 15 years later: A look at losses by the numbers
For property and casualty insurers and reinsurers, the impact of the 9/11 terrorist attacks was enormous, producing insured losses over $43 billion in 2015 dollars.
By Jayleen R. Heft | September 07, 2016 at 04:15 AM



http://www.wnpr.org/post/subway-car-pulled-911-wreckage-now-connecticut-museum
Subway Car Pulled From 9/11 Wreckage, Now in Connecticut Museum
By Lori Mack ? Aug 11, 2016


During recovery from the World Trade Center wreckage, Car 745 is swung over Car 143 by crane.
Peter Rinaldi / Shoreline Trolley Museum

One of two subway cars that survived the collapse of the World Trade Center in the 2001 attacks will soon be open to the public. Car 745 will welcome visitors aboard for the first time in 15 years at its permanent home in East Haven, Connecticut. The Shoreline Trolley Museum acquired the car a year ago and built a special display that will be dedicated on the September 11th anniversary.

On a normal weekday in New York City people by the thousands arrive at the Port Authority Trans-Hudson -- or PATH World Trade Center station. For PATH car 745 September 11, 2001 started like any Tuesday morning -- loaded with passengers, from New Jersey. At around 8:52 am it pulled into the World Trade Center Station for the last time. Within three hours it would be buried beneath hundreds and thousands of tons of debris.
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"It left at 8:42 outta Hoboken in the morning. The first station was Pavonia-Newport," he said. It was still being called Pavonia-Newport back then. When it left Pavonia-Newport is when the buildings got hit. So, midway in this train?s trip, it left in peacetime and ended up in a war zone."

After the planes hit, before the buildings came down, and before anyone understood what was happening, the Port Authority suspended all train service into New York. In fact another PATH train from New Jersey was en route, but the crew was instructed to turn around when they reached the World Trade Center Station and take all passengers back.

"So rather than have an additional 2,000 people dropped off in a potential deadly area they got ?em back out of there," said Bill Wall who works for the New York City Transit Authority.
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"And then they had another train in New Jersey, they got all the passengers off of that and they sent the train, with the crew, into the Trade Center, which at that point everybody was getting out of, to do what we call sweep the platform. Anybody who was there, they had one last chance to get out," said Wall. "And shortly after that the buildings came down."

As a result there was no loss of life on the PATH trains or in the World Trade Center Station that day. But an empty seven-car train that included subway car 745 was left behind.

"It was a train that was in the terminal that they just finished using and normally would leave it there during the day to wait for the afternoon rush hour to start," said Wall. "And it was already in place and that?s the reason that train was there."


Car 745 at the World Trade Center Station on September 30, 2001. Flooding occurred from water main breaks and efforts to put out fire. The orange paint marks on the side of the car indicate that the area had been searched.
Credit Peter Rinaldi / Shoreline Trolley Museum

The train was discovered during a search of the site. Five of the cars were obliterated, a sixth car suffered minor damage, and a seventh was undamaged. That was the lead car -- car 745.

The surviving two PATH cars were taken to Kennedy International Airport, where they were stored in a Hangar with other artifacts held for a future 9/11 memorial museum. That, said Wall, is where they stayed for nearly 14 years, but did not make it into the museum.
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https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?212



Country: United States
City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: IRT West Side Line
Location: Cortlandt Street-World Trade Center (Aftermath of 9/11)
Photo by: MTA New York City Transit
Date: 9/28/2001
Notes: IRT 1/9 tunnel looking north on northbound track at Liberty Street
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2018, 09:32:05 am »
https://28pages.org/2018/09/09/senate-house-measures-urge-release-of-9-11-documents/#more-9974
Senate, House Measures Urge Release of 9/11 Documents
September 9, 2018 editor28pages
Call your senators and representative and urge them to cosponsor these resolutions
By Brian P. McGlinchey

As the world marks the seventeenth anniversary of 9/11, legislators have introduced resolutions in both the House and Senate urging the broad declassification of U.S. government documents relating to the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

As with the successful drive to declassify 28 pages on Saudi government links to the 9/11 attacks, this latest effort has support on both sides of the aisle.

At a press conference announcing the Senate effort, Senator Richard Blumenthal, flanked by 9/11 families, said, ?This is a nonpartisan issue. Forget about if you?re a Republican, if you?re a Democrat, if you?re independent?this is a humanity issue. These are human beings that got savagely murdered on September 11 and there should be no partisan politics involved in this at all.?

Among others joining the Connecticut Democrat on the Senate resolution are two senior Republicans: majority whip John Cornyn of Texas and Chuck Grassley of Iowa.

Secrecy is an Impediment to Justice

The continued classification 9/11 documents is a headwind for a civil suit by victims of the attacks seeking to prove that Saudi government officials provided financial and other assistance to hijackers and others closely associated with them.
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The only thing I think it would hurt is maybe past administrations??maybe even the current administration?s?reputation, with respect to giving Saudi Arabia a pass.?
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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/09/02/911saud/
US government-wide cover-up of Saudi complicity in 9/11 revealed in new book
By Kevin Barrett -
September 2, 2018

The authors of a new explosive book on 9/11 have revealed a US government-wide cover-up of Saudi complicity in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, claiming that the CIA and Saudi Arabia conspired to keep 9/11 details secret.

In The Watchdogs Didn?t Bark: The CIA, NSA, and the Crimes of the War on Terror, John Duffy and Ray Nowosielski dismissed the official story that 9/11 was merely ?a failure to connect the dots.? They wrote several accounts from former US intelligence officials who revealed how American agencies ignored intelligence on Saudis.
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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/30/572650/US-governmentwide-coverup-of-Saudi-complicity-in-911-revealed-in-new-book
US government-wide cover-up of Saudi complicity in 9/11 revealed in new book
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The Watchdogs Didn?t Bark: The CIA, NSA, and the Crimes of the War on Terror, John Duffy and Ray Nowosielski dismissed the official story that 9/11 was merely ?a failure to connect the dots.? They wrote several accounts from former US intelligence officials who revealed how American agencies ignored intelligence on Saudis. 
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In their book, Duffy and Nowosielski have presented an update on what?s been learned about Saudi support for Al-Qaeda in recent years.

US investigations have revealed that officials from the Saudi Kingdom?s Islamic affairs ministry helped the hijackers get settled in California.

?Saudi intelligence has admitted that they knew who these two guys were,? said Andrew Maloney, an attorney for families of the 9/11 attack victims who filed suit against the Saudi government in federal court in New York last year.

?They knew they were Al-Qaeda the day they arrived in Los Angeles. So any notion from the Saudi government saying, ?Oh, we just help out all Saudis here? is false. They knew. And the CIA knew.?
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... many experts have raised questions about the official account.

They believe that rogue elements within the US government, such as former Vice President Dick Cheney, orchestrated or at least encouraged the 9/11 attacks in order to accelerate the US war machine and advance the Zionist agenda.
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Dr. Kevin Barrett, a founding member of the Scientific Panel for the Investigation of 9/11, has said that 15 of the 9/11 ?hijackers? from Saudi Arabia were actually CIA agents working for the United States government.

Barrett, an American academic
who has been studying the events of 9/11 since late 2003, has also said that the CIA is afraid of any serious investigation into the attacks because it would expose the role Israeli and American intelligence played in the 9/11 coup d??tat.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2018, 12:39:08 pm »
https://www.archives.gov/research/9-11
9/11 Commission Records

The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, known as the 9/11 Commission, was an independent, bipartisan commission created by Congress. The Commission's mandate was to provide a "full and complete accounting" of the attacks of September 11, 2001 and to provide recommendations as to how to prevent such attacks in the future. The Commission, existing from 2003 - 2004, held hearings, conducted interviews, and produced a report.

When the 9/11 Commission closed on August 21, 2004, it transferred legal custody of its records to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). The Commission encouraged the release of its records to the fullest extent possible in January 2009. Because the Commission was part of the legislative branch its records are not subject to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

There is approximately 570 cubic feet of textual records. A large percentage of the Commission's records are national security classified files. The unreleased portion of the records are processed as documents are requested. NARA maintains a list of documents released since the records were opened in 2009.

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/9-11/public-law-107-306.pdf

https://28pages.org/2018/09/09/senate-house-measures-urge-release-of-9-11-documents/
Senate, House Measures Urge Release of 9/11 Documents
September 9, 2018 editor28pages
Call your senators and representative and urge them to cosponsor these resolutions
By Brian P. McGlinchey

As the world marks the seventeenth anniversary of 9/11, legislators have introduced resolutions in both the House and Senate urging the broad declassification of U.S. government documents relating to the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

As with the successful drive to declassify 28 pages on Saudi government links to the 9/11 attacks, this latest effort has support on both sides of the aisle.

At a press conference announcing the Senate effort, Senator Richard Blumenthal, flanked by 9/11 families, said, ?This is a nonpartisan issue. Forget about if you?re a Republican, if you?re a Democrat, if you?re independent?this is a humanity issue. These are human beings that got savagely murdered on September 11 and there should be no partisan politics involved in this at all.?

Among others joining the Connecticut Democrat on the Senate resolution are two senior Republicans: majority whip John Cornyn of Texas and Chuck Grassley of Iowa.

Secrecy is an Impediment to Justice
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2018, 01:32:23 pm »
for reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah.

The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by an American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]

In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International[3] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors... fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die."[4][5] Amnesty International reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".[6]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y
Nayirah Kuwaiti girl testimony
Published on Jun 15, 2010

Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح‎), called "Nurse Nayirah" in the media, was a fifteen-year-old Kuwaiti girl, who alleged that she had witnessed the murder of infant children by Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait, in verbal testimony to the U.S. Congress, in the run up to the 1991 Gulf War. Her testimony, which was regarded as credible at the time, has since come to be regarded as wartime propaganda. The public relations firm Hill & Knowlton, which was in the employ of Citizens for a Free Kuwait, had arranged the testimony. Nayirah's testimony was widely publicized. Hill & Knowlton, which had filmed the hearing, sent out a video news release to Medialink, a firm which served about 700 television stations in the United States. That night, portions of the testimony aired on ABC's Nightline and NBC Nightly News reaching an estimated audience between 35 and 53 million Americans. Seven senators cited Nayirah's testimony in their speeches backing the use of force. President George Bush repeated the story at least ten times in the following weeks. (Wikipedia)
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2018, 12:57:51 pm »
wayback:


https://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/06/911-general-died-in-metro-train-crash.html
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
9/11 General Died in Metro Train Crash
Excerpt - Details Emerge of Victims in Deadly Train Crash
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/us/25victim.html

As investigators continued searching Wednesday for causes of the worst rail accident in the city?s history, family and friends of the victims tried to deal with their losses.

One of those friends was Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton, who knew of the Air Force, who headed the District of Columbia ?Maj. Gen. David F. Wherley Jr.s National Guard unit until his retirement a year ago. She commented on how he had faced dangers around the world, only to die on a mundane train ride.

?General Wherley was accustomed to risking his life for his country as commander of two flying squads,? Ms. Norton, the district?s delegate to Congress, said, ?but he found his rest yesterday in the hometown he grew to love and adopted as his own.?

She said that it was on his order that jets scrambled over Washington on Sept. 11, 2001.

General Wherley?s wife, Ann, 62, a mortgage banker, was also killed in the crash. After buying a condominium on Capitol Hill, the couple involved themselves in the civic life of their community, Ms. Norton said. The general recently had heart surgery for a valve problem but was recovering and was planning a trip to Europe in October, she said.
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General Wherley and 9/11

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31519340/ns/us_news-washington_post/
Washington Post, June 24, 2009

... Wherley, a command pilot who logged more than 5,000 hours in military aircraft, gave the order to scramble planes over Washington on Sept. 11, 2001.

Wherley, 62, who later became the commanding general of the D.C. National Guard, was lauded for the educational programs he helped create for high school dropouts. But his military r?sum? and presence did not define who he was, according to Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.). ...

The day of the terrorist attacks, her husband was commander of the 113th Wing at Andrews Air Force Base. He detailed the harrowing minutes of tough decision making in a Washington Post interview in 2002.

Wherley said the moment he knew the attacks would go beyond New York was when one of his officers, whose husband worked at the Pentagon, saw on television that the second tower of the World Trade Center had been hit and began shrieking.

[ He WAITED A HALF AN HOUR WHILE BUILDINGS WERE BEING HIT BY PLANES .... ]

"You've got to be strong," Wherley told the officer before racing out of the building and running several hundred yards to squadron headquarters. There, officers wanted to head to the skies right away, but Wherley was measured. "We have to get some instructions," Wherley told squadron officers. "We can't just fly off half-cocked."

The general went to work through classified communications channels and within a half-hour received oral instructions from the White House giving the pilots extraordinary discretion to shoot down any threatening aircraft. ...
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Thread
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2018, 03:55:45 pm »
The assassinations of 9/11 steering committee member Beverly Eckert

Notice that this happened after Obama met with the families of 9/11. Obama's Justice Department has sided with the Saudi's AGAINST the 9/11 families so they will not have there day in court.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/a-911-widow-killed-in-crash-near-buffalo/

February 13, 2009, 10:50 am
A 9/11 Widow, Killed in Crash Near Buffalo
By Sewell Chan


Beverly Eckert, the widow of Sean Rooney, who died in the Sept. 11 attacks, died in the plane crash near Buffalo.
 
Beverly Eckert, whose husband was killed in the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, joined other relatives of 9/11 victims and victims of the 2000 attack on the destroyer Cole last Friday in a meeting with President Obama to discuss changes in the handling of terrorism suspects. (See Jim Dwyer’s “About New York” column for more details.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/14/nyregion/14about.html

On Thursday night, Ms. Eckert, 57, was aboard Continental Flight 3407 when it crashed near Buffalo, killing all 49 people on board and one person on the ground. Ms. Eckert, who lived in Stamford, Conn., was traveling to her hometown in western New York to help celebrate what would have been her husband’s 58th birthday.

“Beverly lost her husband on 9/11 and became a tireless advocate for those families whose lives were forever changed on that September day,” President Obama said at the White House on Friday morning. “And in keeping with that passionate commitment, she was on her way to Buffalo to mark what would have been her husband’s birthday and launch a scholarship in his memory. So she was an inspiration to me and to so many others and I pray that her family finds peace and comfort in the hard days ahead.”

Beverly A. Eckert was born in May 1951. She met her future husband, Sean P. Rooney, at a dance at Canisius High School, a Jesuit institution in Buffalo, when they were 16. “And though they were very different, the words ‘Bev and Sean’ were often spoken as one instead of three,” The Times reported in 2001, after Mr. Rooney, a vice president for risk management services at the Aon Corporation, was killed. “On their second date, they went to see the movie ‘Camelot.’ From then on, they always felt that they were ‘happily-ever-aftering,’ as the song says.”

Mr. Rooney lived in Buffalo until 1978, managing several restaurants in the area before starting work in the financial services industry and living in Massachusetts, New Jersey and Connecticut, according to a 2001 article in The Buffalo News.

The couple had recently celebrated turning 50 together with vacations to Vermont, to mark his birthday, and Morocco, to mark hers, when the terror attack occurred.

Mr. Rooney was one of 32 Aon employees who were at work on the 98th floor of the trade center’s south tower. When the north tower was hit at 8:46 a.m., Mr. Rooney saw the devastation and called his wife at her job in Connecticut, but she had not yet arrived, according to “102 Minutes: The Untold Story of the Fight to Survive Inside the Twin Towers” (Times Books, 2005), by Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn of The Times.

Mr. Rooney left his wife of 21 years a voice-mail message at 8:59 a.m.:

Hey, Beverly, this is Sean, in case you get this message. There has been an explosion in World Trade One — that’s the other building. It looks like a plane struck it. It’s on fire at about the 90th floor. And it’s, it’s — it’s horrible. Bye.

A couple of minutes later, he left her a second voice-mail message to say that he was O.K. In the background was a public-address announcement telling occupants they could evacuate.

Later that morning, around 9:30 a.m., Mr. Rooney and other people trapped in the tower attempted to climb to the roof, only to find that the doors were locked and the way blocked. He pounded on a door but found that it wouldn’t move, he told his wife by phone. She urged him to try again while she waited on the line. When he returned to the phone, he said the door still would not move and told his wife, “Tell me what you see on TV.”

Ms. Eckert later recounted in an interview, “His breathing was becoming more labored. He was telling me he loved me.”

By then, he was on the 105th floor, on the north side of the south tower. While she listened, Ms. Eckert dialed 911 on another line; the operator said emergency crews were on their way. In fact, only one of three stairways in the south tower — Stairway A — was unobstructed. Mr. Rooney never made it to that stairway.

After her husband’s death, Ms. Eckert was a co-chairwoman of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, a group of victims’ relatives who were committed to looking into the government failures that led up to the attacks. Ms. Eckert supported the work of the 9/11 Commission, and, after its recommendations were released, she urged Congress to adopt their findings.

“She was such an important part of all of our work,” said Mary Fetchet, another 9/11 family advocate, according to The Associated Press, which reported that Ms. Fetchet learned Ms. Eckert was aboard the plane that crashed near Buffalo from another close Eckert family friend, who was also going to Buffalo. Officials investigating the crash have not yet confirmed that the friend was also on board the plane, The A.P. reported.

Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, a New York Democrat who worked closely with Ms. Eckert, said she was “heartbroken” at the news. “Beverly turned her grief at the loss of her husband into action that helped make our country a safer place, and for that all Americans owe her a debt of gratitude,” Ms. Maloney said in a statement.

About five or six years ago, she met a man, Shawn Monks, during a trip to Block Island, R.I., according to Annalisa DiNucci, 50, Ms. Eckert’s next-door neighbor and friend. Mr. Monks, who was originally from Garrison, N.Y., lived with Ms. Eckert at her house on Brooklawn Avenue in Stamford.

“If anything, she worked so hard to make some sense out of his loss, but she didn’t let it beat her down,” Ms. DiNucci said. “She very quickly began to take action. And in the initial months became preoccupied with all of the advocacy and so on. And then she began to find ways to seek enjoyment.”

Ms. Eckert became a volunteer at Habitat for Humanity and at the Julia A. Stark Elementary School in Stamford, and also enjoyed theater, sailing and kayaking, Ms. DiNucci said.

Ms. DiNucci said her husband, John, was close to Ms. Eckert, her late husband, and her current partner. Ms. Eckert worked at General Re before 9/11. “I think she tried to go back to work after 9/11, but she got so involved in the advocacy groups of victims’ families that it became too time consuming for her to work,” Ms. DiNucci said.

Ms. DiNucci said Ms. Eckert’s top concerns were transparency in the investigations into 9/11, the improvement of building codes and emergency communications, and her desire to see Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who is believed to be the mastermind of the attacks and is in United States custody, put on trial.

Another neighbor, John Verderame, 45, said he had known Ms. Eckert and Mr. Rooney since 1993.

“It was a shocking tragedy then when I found out Sean and it’s a shocking tragedy now,” he said. “I can’t believe it.”

Mr. Verderame recalled how Ms. Eckert had plunged herself into 9/11 advocacy. “Boy, we didn’t see hide nor hair of Beverly for a long long time because she was so involved with all these Sept. 11 widows’ activities and testimony in Washington, and then we started seeing this other Shawn here, I guess around 2003, maybe 2004, perhaps. And he quickly became a permanent fixture around here. I would see him about — a couple of neighborhood barbecues that I would see them at.”

State Senator Andrew J. McDonald, a Democrat from Stamford, said in a statement:

Beverly was not just a constituent of mine, she was a friend and neighbor. From my home, I daily see the one she shared with Sean. While many knew Beverly as a passionate advocate for the families of 9/11 survivors in both Hartford and Washington, we in the Glenbrook section of Stamford knew her as a kind and wonderful neighbor. She will be dearly missed by all of us who admired her so much.

Ms. DiNucci said she felt “disbelief, shock,” when learning of her friend’s death. “It couldn’t be happening again,” Ms. DiNucci said. “We were close with her husband as well. That was just an enormous tragedy for this neighborhood. It’s a bad recurring nightmare.”

Angela Macropoulos contributed reporting from Stamford, Conn.


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/obama-meets-with-family-members-of-uss-cole-911-victims/


February 6, 2009, 6:58 pm
Obama Meets With Family Members of U.S.S. Cole, 9/11 Victims
By Jeff Zeleny

President Obama on Friday assured family members of Americans who were killed in the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole and in the Sept. 11 attacks that the terror suspects will be prosecuted and brought “to a swift and certain justice.”

Mr. Obama met for more than an hour with about 40 relatives of terror victims during an emotional afternoon session in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building near the White House. He explained his rationale for ordering the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be closed within a year, but pledged that the terror cases would be reviewed and handled through the courts.



The president spoke for about 10 minutes before taking about 16 questions and talking individually with the participants, many of whom brought pictures of their loved ones who were killed in the attacks. The meeting was closed, but participants described it as an intense, but civil session with little contention.

While some of the family members have disagreed openly with the president’s decision to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, there was no hostility at the meeting, according to participants and White House officials who attended.

John Clodfelter of Mechanicsville, Va., whose son, Kenneth, was killed in the Cole bombing, said he came to the meeting with apprehension over the decision to close the prison and the delay in prosecutions. But after listening to the president and being assured that the terror suspects would not be released, Mr. Clodfelter said his opinion changed.

“I did not vote for the man, but the way he talks to you, you can’t help but believe in him,” Mr. Clodfelter said on Friday evening. “He left me with a very positive feeling that he’s going to get this done right.”

The president and his advisers are reviewing the cases, aides said, to ensure that the 245 suspects at Guantanamo Bay are afforded their legal rights. The review will determine whether the terror suspects will be and tried in U.S. courts or dispatched to other countries for prosecution.

Retired Cmdr. Kirk Lippold, who represents victims of the Cole and was the commanding officer of the vessel at the time of the attack in 2000, has disagreed with the decision to close the prison. But in an interview after the meeting, he said he was very pleased with the president’s explanation and commitment to bringing the suspects to justice.

“It went far better than I had imagined,” Commander Lippold said Friday evening. “I was surprised with how well it went.”
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https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/11/9-11-victims-compensation-fund-may-go-broke-survivors-still-in-need/
9/11 Victims? Compensation Fund May Go Broke, Survivors Still in Need
11 Sep 2018

The $7.3 billion 9/11 Victims? Compensation Fund is not set to expire until 2020 but may run out of money even sooner, as survivors continue to battle long-term illness.

Special Master of the fund Rupa Bhattacharyya told New York?s PIX11 News that they have paid out approximately $4 billion to the survivors of the tragic terrorist attack of September 11, 2001. While over $3 billion remains, more and more of the survivors are becoming sick by the day.
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Uniformed Fire Officers Association President Jake Lemonda said more than 1,000 firefighters have been diagnosed with both cancer and other illnesses related to 9/11, and that 182 have already died.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/september-11-attacks-anniversary-15-years-first-responders-cancer/
September 9, 2016, 7:38 AM
9/11 responder with cancer: "They died and we?re dying"

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Among the nearly 75,000 responders and survivors health officials are monitoring, they?ve certified more than 5,400 patients with 9/11-related cancers. According to Dr. Crane, that number continues to rise.

?Here at Sinai, we see 10 to 15 new cancer patients in our population every week,? Crane said.

?Ten to 15 cases of first responders?? Axelrod asked.

?Per week,? Crane stressed. ?Each week. I?ve been in medicine for 40 odd years. It?s remarkable.?

Responders who died from illnesses after the attacks aren?t among those listed at the National September 11 Memorial, but a former ground zero construction worker is keeping track at his own memorial 45 miles away.

?We?re 15 years removed from 9/11. We are out of sight, out of mind,? said John Feal, founder of the FealGood Foundation.

Feal adds new names every year to his wall on Long Island.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5