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Offline squarepusher

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Just a few years ago, they had to create the perception that the government could not POSSIBLY push through smart meters for all homes in The Netherlands 'because of privacy concerns' (no shit, Sherlock).

We had nice reassuring PR handouts from the Anglo-Dutch's contemporary version of the Washington Post (ie. an establishment rag) -

http://vorige.nrc.nl/international/article2207260.ece/Smart_energy_meter_will_not_be_compulsory

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Smart energy meter will not be compulsory
Published: 8 April 2009 11:36 | Changed: 8 April 2009 17:16
By Wilmer Heck

The 'smart energy meter' will not be compulsory in the Netherlands. Minister of economic affairs Maria van der Hoeven backed down after consumer groups raised privacy concerns.

The 'smart energy meter' has a dual purpose. It provides the consumers with detailed information about their electricity bills that they can then use in billing disputes with energy providers. Perhaps more importantly in the long run, it also gives the consumer a picture of his or her energy use. For instance: the smart meter can tell you exactly what that 15-minutes shower in the morning cost you (and the environment).

So the public basically thought - great, we still have control over our government and when we don't want something, they obey. (yeah right). And then all the little sheep in this country went to sleep.

That's when they gangraped everyone.

Because the current laws could not permit them to push this through, guess what? They changed the laws so it could be pushed through anyway.

See, Holland is THE number 1 police state after England -

they were the first with fingerprint registration for your biometric ID card. They were one of the first to instigate a rule that everybody above 12 needs to wear on his person a national ID card - the police have the right to request this from you at any time - if you don't, massive fines ensue.

Then we have this little nice thing here with public transportation having moved towards a total track-and-trace system in something called a 'Public Transportation Card' - this is a nice little card with an RFID chip embedded in it that registers exactly where you enter and exit a public transportation vehicle. This is all provided for by a company called Veolia which has sole dibbing rights now on public transportation (one of these lucrative public-private partnership deals they negotiated with the government). Another rich thing about this is that despite the government having 'privatized' public transportation, they still consider these guys 'public officials' - they are a real vicious, low-life, undereducated scum type that think they have the right to basically call you whatever they deem fit - and if you so much as mouth back at them, guess what buddy? 'Insults' are a statutory CRIME in The Netherlands - you face a 500 Euro fine for INSULTING a public official and you get a criminal record to boot - because hey, this shit is JUST as important as shoplifting, vandalizing, or car theft, now is it? (BTW, all of those cars and trains now have CAMERAS in them - and they dont' even make any bones about the fact that they watch you - but hey, there are already dozens of cameras in every street corner, so hey, it all adds up to the fun - you can imagine you're auditioning for Pop Stars or some other lame show while walking in front of a camera - or feel really giddy about somebody watching you)

Anyways, here comes the big kicker:

Smart meters are back with a vengeance. Oh, they implemented some new laws that makes it possible. OH, and guess what - if you refuse to let the energy company (upon replacement of your OLD meter) place the device in your house, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND THROWN IN PRISON. THAT's RIGHT - LET'S REPEAT THAT AGAIN - YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND THROWN IN PRISON. There's your nice freedom right there. You know, cry all you want about 'people wanting liberty' in Libya, Egypt or some other bullshit place you otherwise would not give two shits about - how the f**k about getting freedom in your own country, huh????

But hey, you've got a slave population here - I totally understand.

Here are some excerpts BTW -

http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/01/privacy-concerns-scotch-smart-meters-plan-in-holland.html

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Fears that data on energy consumption could be misused by criminals, police or insurance companies have curtailed the compulsory introduction of the meters in the Netherlands, according to a report by Datamonitor, the market analyst.

Dutch consumer and privacy organisations were concerned that information relayed as frequently as every 15 minutes could allow employees of utility companies to see when properties were empty or when householders had bought expensive new gadgets.


This report was dated 14/01/2010. The author pre-emptively declared victory:

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The u-turn by the Dutch government represents a tremendous victory for privacy campaigners in the Netherlands and demonstrates that if enough noise is made about a civil liberties issue, eventually politicians will fold rather than face an electoral backlash.

This report is now outdated, by the way. Smart meters are coming in alright - to hell with 'privacy concerns' - you're feudal slaves, and you're going to LIKE IT.

On February 23, 2011, The First Chamber (just f**king pathetic marionette slaves of the big queen overlord, Ms. Beatrix and the clique that calls itself the House of Orange/Nassau) - they decided in their infinite crony wisdom - that hey, we're going to push this shit through, anyway.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Smart_meter#Netherlands

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The company Oxxio introduced the first smart meter for both electricity and gas in the Netherlands in 2005. In 2007, the Dutch government proposed that all seven million households of the country should have a smart meter by 2013, as part of a national energy reduction plan. In August 2008 the roll out of these seven million meters was delayed for several reasons. Main reasons for the delay were that there was limited possibility foreseen to register small scale local energy production (e.g. by solar panels), and that there was uncertainty in the parliament on future developments in smart meters. On April 7, 2009 the Dutch government had to back down after consumer groups raised privacy concerns. Instead of a mandatory roll-out smart meters will be voluntary.[41]

Note that bolded line - this is what cybernetics is, people. This is what the cybernetic control grid is - A NEW DIGITIZED, HIGH-TECH MEDIEVAL AGE - WHERE YOUR LIFE POTENTIAL AND YOUR ABILITY TO ENACT CHANGE AND MEANING IN THE WORLD WILL BE CAPPED. Your energy will be CAPPED - your ability to communicate freely will be CAPPED - you will be under constant surveillance (hell, we already are).

This news report is in Dutch - but I will translate a part of it:


http://www.energiebusiness.nl/2011/02/eerste-kamer-stemt-in-met-wetsvoorstellen-slimme-meter/

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First Chamber approves new laws regarding smart meters
February 22, 2011

The First Chamber has agreed to two new laws proposed by minister Verhagen which were modified to allow consumers with smart meters in their homes more freedom of choice and a better guarantee of privacy

Minister Verhagen  expects that the rollout of smart meters can begin in 2012 (MY NOTE: Next year).

Smart meters make it possible for consumers to better track their energy consumption. This will hopefully lead to increased energy savings (My note: More like enforced austerity energy chances because you can NO LONGER COUGH UP THE DOUGH TO PAY FOR ELECTRICITY).

The smart meter will be implemented incrementally at first. In the first two consecutive years a consumer will receive a smart meter upon:
- replacement
- renovation
- new homes
- by their own request

Yeah, it will be 'voluntary' - yeah, more like, they're going to make it IMPOSSIBLE for you to stay on your old meter and create all sorts of propaganda to FORCE YOU onto the smart grid. Hey, when you've got slaves to be played, that's what you do as a pimp. BTW, the above directly contradicts that it will be 'voluntary' - like shit it will be voluntary - look at that - they're going to PUSH THIS THROUGH just like they pushed through track-and-trace RFID cards in public transportation - just like they pushed through back in 2005 that you're REQUIRED to have an ID card on you at all times so the cops can IDENTIFY YOU.

And of course the public is going to lap this up - it's amazing really this country is the most blatantly oppressed police state out of all - but the weird and mind-numbing thing is, the people REALLY DON'T CARE. Some do, but overall, what you're seeing here is grown adults acting like little kids - 10 years of age. It's total la-la land here - they're so dumbed down that they're just more or less consenting to a state of affairs that wouldn't seem out of place back in the Middle Ages.

Americans, pay careful attention - The Dutch may be a pathetic ensemble of politically correct, effeminate, dumbed down slaves, but I still have some hope for some of you guys - I know you don't want this, and I know that there's a sizeable segment over there that DISLIKES any form of cybernetic totalism. RESIST THIS AT ALL COSTS - AND DON'T LET YOURSELF GET PUT TO SLEEP BY REASSURING PR BULLSHIT LIKE THEY DID IN HOLLAND THAT - HEY - WE LISTENED TO YOU - NO SMART METER IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED - WE CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY.

You know - Dutch are beyond  hope or salvation - the things they like and the traditions they look forward to each year all stem from Medieval Times- even the very term they use to refer to themselves - 'burgers' ('burghers') - dates back to Medieval Times. Let me give you a little quote that describes what a 'burgher' means -

http://www.politeia-station.net/2008/03/fichte.html

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He [Fichte] blamed all but God for the German defeat against Napoleon Bonaparte: corrupt royals, the nobility, the decadent influence of reason, and a succession of weak governments that undermined religion as a moral force. He wanted the German losers to emulate the burghers of the Middle Ages, who made the Holy Roman Empire great because they weren't individuals, but sacrificed to the common good.

That more or less sounds like a slave, right? Well, quelle surprise why they still use that term.

BTW - this Fichte guy - he is the charming chap that wrote stuff like this - Bertrand Russell alludes to him in his pro-eugenics book, The Impact of Science on Society:

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"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished."

And they still have this basic attitude - most of them - that they're nothing but a bunch of slaves that should just work their entire lives for supposed 'betters' above them - and they still lie to themselves that the Queen is ceremonial and that their trias politica-government runs everything (LMAO) - and they're so intellectually mindbombed that they don't even remember that these past 10/11 years, they've been LIED TO, all sorts of shit has been pushed through without your consent (you VOTED NO FOR THE EU CONSTITUTION, YET IT WAS PASSED), and now it's so bloody insane that they have CONSENTED to being tracked and traced 24/7 inside public transportation buses/trains.

They have already ANNOUNCED that the next step is going to be MANDATORY GPS TRACKER BOXES in ALL CARS starting as early as 2012. They have already ANNOUNCED that smart meters will become more or less compulsory as of 2012. Hello, when the f**k are you guys going to wake up? This is not a 'cashless society' - this is Cybernetic Deadlock right here - if you accept all of this, I can guarantee you this - most of you within five to ten years will never again have a vacation to look forward to or a career opportunity. That's how bad this is going to become. Your cities and towns will degenerate into the 'scum pits' as termed by the oh-so-feared Mr. Wilders who doesn't run anything or have a chance in hell anyway - and which BTW, to give credit to injury, WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO ACTUALLY DARED TO CALL INTO QUESTION THE RIGHT OF THE QUEEN TO PARTAKE IN GOVERNMENTAL MATTERS. Why the hell has nobody else brought this up or dared to question it? This is outrageous - this woman has shown you last year that it is SHE that composes the government - she decides who is going to partner up with each other to form a coalition - and when a guy as much as throws a small piece of wrap paper at her, he gets thrown into prison, treated as a mental invalid and given several years in prison???! That doesn't exactly sound like a 'ceremonial' prestigial badge of honor to be quite frank with you.

Hey, Dutch - I know there are some of you on this forum and I know that most of you abhor as much as I do the average lack of interest and concern amongst your fellow citizens about their country going headfirst into Orwell and Brave New World - they're more concerned about the latest stupid news on television or some idle talk about 'concentration camps' or endlessly talking about some guy that dislikes Muslims.

It doesn't have to be like this - and you don't have to feel downcast and insignificant just because you've got dozens of slaves in your country that were reared and born to be as such.

There's nothing 'rational' (or 'nuchter', to use the Dutch preferred term) about letting all of this come into being. You know the handwriting is on the wall - why the hell are you not even as active as the average American? That wouldn't even be a bloody great accomplishment to be brutally honest - yet they still seem to be more clued-in. Why the hell is 'conspiracy theories' laughed at in this country? What the hell is wrong with people? Why do most want to become slaves so much?

These are questions we will have to deal with, and figure out a solution to it. Because time IS RUNNING OUT. Be less AFRAID of what they will think of you by bursting their feel-happy thought bubbles and be MORE AFRAID of what this is going to mean for YOUR FUTURE - you don't even have to worry about your children's future because I know there are a lot of people nowadays that are totally self-centered - no buddy, YOUR FUTURE is going to be flushed down the toilet by all of this - YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT 50 YEARS FOR IT - MAKE IT MORE LIKE 5-4 YEARS.
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Re: Smart meters still pushed through in Holland - 2012 mandatory for all
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 02:19:45 am »
I just bought a house and just watched the 6-25-12 martial law video and they talked about smart meters. I have a digital itron meter and noticed its hooked up to my phone line. Is itron a smart meter and if so is it bad and is there a way i can get the electric company to change it to somthing other?

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Re: Smart meters still pushed through in Holland - 2012 mandatory for all
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 03:04:24 am »
Further evidence the conspiracy is global as they push for One World everything.

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Re: Smart meters still pushed through in Holland - 2012 mandatory for all
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 04:05:05 am »
In the Netherlands, is connection to a power utility mandatory? Can homeowners be "off-grid"?
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Re: Smart meters still pushed through in Holland - 2012 mandatory for all
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 04:28:38 am »
In the Netherlands, is connection to a power utility mandatory? Can homeowners be "off-grid"?

While you could live in the wilderness and generate your own electric in parts of the USA, this would be extremely problematic in Holland.

IMHO


Also, by petty regulation they keep making it harder and harder to live off the grid. One of the most obvious methods to generate electric is by using alcohol to heat a Stirling engine to turn a generator. This super secret ultra efficent method is about least a 100 years old - but forbidden by law.

To break it down

We do not live in some closed bubble ecosphere. We get free energy blasted at us from the Sun. Plants are easily the most efficient and wholesome method of collecting solar power. They suck up sunlight and co2 and produce oxygen and sugar. You can ferment anything you can grow to produce alcohol.

Alcohol burns clean, unlike say gasoline.

A Stirling Engine is an external heat engine, it is simple and likes to run at a constant speed, its ideal for generating electric. Given access to machine shop or the most basic engineering, you can build a Stirling Engine.

Ok, so its kinda hard to either build your own stirling engine or find an antique one to restore. You can use a conventional car engine, and it will last a lot longer running on alcohol. This is because it burns cooler, and does not clog up the engine with carbon deposits. The burning cooler is the big factor, as heat is the enemy of your car engine.

If you look at what off the grid farms used to do prior to prohibition then you see that this scenario was common place.

Before you dash off to do all of this, thinking, heck its so green its gotta be legal...

Check out ALL the regulations and licensing which has made it effectively illegal.


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Re: Smart meters still pushed through in Holland - 2012 mandatory for all
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 05:55:31 am »
Generally speaking, from what I've read, a 40-50Kw generator for the average single familiy home. Those run at about 700-1500rpm. Whatever the rpm, that's how much a Sterling needs to put out to turn it constantly at the needed speed for maximum output of electricity. Not sure if a Sterling has the torque. Sure, a constant speed is the goal, and they are known for that, but shaft power is suspect.
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