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Offline jimd3100

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ANTHRAX-A Bigger smoking gun than WTC 7
« on: December 24, 2007, 10:23:45 am »
The Terrorist attack you are supposed to forget
What do you think about that terrorist attack that occurred in the U.S. involving WMD? Whenever I ask somebody that they don't know what I'm talking about. Which is what they are supposed to do. It served it's purpose. I am talking about the Anthrax letters which killed several people, and was a textbook example of state sponsored terrorism. Anthrax is a WMD isn't it? Isn't that why we've killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq? Because Saddam Hussein didn't have a stockpile of anthrax but since it was claimed he did by our government, that was good enough, to go kill, invade, and stay there?
The anthrax attacks and the terrorist attack of 9/11 are part of the same event. The only way you can possibly separate the two is if you believe a person was watching his TV on 9/11 and suddenly realized that the anthrax he had been making in his multi million dollar bioweapons research facility and was coincidently just now being perfected for delivery can now be sent out and blamed on anti Israel anti-American Muslim fanatics. That is a bit far fetched I think you would have to agree.
Take a look at the actual anthrax letters themselves.
"The anthrax letters attack was classic terrorism in that rather than designed to kill as many people as possible, was designed to terrorize as many people as possible. The choice of a variety of media as targets seems to have been cleverly designed to ensure a broad spectrum of publicity about the attacks. The choice of Senators Daschle and Leahy suggests that the perpetrator may lean to the political right and may have some specific grudge against those Senators". {b}
"This is next" the letters say. "We have this anthrax", another states. The President of the United States was telling us the same thing wasn't he? That the next wave of attacks would be wmd, by these crazy terrorists, and Saddam has this anthrax? But lets get real now. These terrorist that G Bush is warning us about are NOT the ones who actually attacked us with WMD. So who did? Who are the real terrorists? It isn't hard to figure out.
Every letter says 9-11-01, which BTW is the western(American)style of writing dates, and is showing it's link with the event. The first letter was mailed on 9-18-01. This is absolute proof, that the anthrax letters and 9/11 are part of the same event. "In my opinion, there are maybe four or five people in the whole country who might be able to make this stuff, and I'm one of them," said Richard O. Spertzel, chief biological inspector for the U.N. Special Commission from 1994 to 1998. "And even with a good lab and staff to help run it, it might take me a year to come up with a product as good." {a} I think he might be a little off, in his estimate of 4 or 5 people but not much, according to a former defense scientist the number of defense scientists with hands-on anthrax experience and the necessary access is under 50. {b} That should narrow the suspects down if the evidence points in this direction and it clearly does.

There was only one week between Sept 11 and Sept 18, when the first two letters (and probably another letter, never found, to AMI) were postmarked. This suggests that the anthrax was already in hand, and the attack largely planned, before Sept 11. {b} The perpetrator was ready before Sept. 11 and simply took advantage of the likelihood that Sept. 11 would throw suspicion on Muslim terrorists.
So lets figure out who was behind the anthrax attacks. I think you would agree that if Iraq did not have any anthrax, and had shut down their bioweapons facilities, it would be impossible to blame them right? Al Qaida doesn't have the means to make it.
A classified report dated February, 1999 discusses responses to an anthrax attack through the mail. The report, precipitated by a series of false anthrax mailings, was written by William Patrick, inventor of the US weaponization process, under a CIA contract to SAIC. The report describes what the US military could do and what a terrorist might be able to achieve. According to the NY Times (12 Dec. 01) the report predicted about 2.5g of anthrax per envelope (the Daschle letter contained 2g) and assumed a poorer quality of anthrax than that found in the Daschle letter. {b} So the intelligence agencies of the United States had already conducted a hypothesis of what a terrorist attack using anthrax mailings would be like, isn't that interesting? "Authorities aren't even certain the anthrax cases are connected to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -- believed to be the work of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network -- but the Bush administration is certainly suspicious of a link."
"I wouldn't put it past him, but we don't have hard evidence yet," President Bush said of bin Laden. {c} Nope no evidence, not yet and he never has and never will, because the anthrax that was sent was the most potent ever released into society and could only be made by a nation state, and guess what we found out when we invaded Iraq? It wasn't them. Not even close.
"Officials acknowledge that the strains of anthrax seem to be from the same source. In the case of the letter sent to Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), weapons-grade anthrax was detected.
Weapons-grade anthrax is a chemically altered form which makes the disease able to survive in the air. Some experts argue this type of bacteria comes from only three countries: the United States, Russia and Iraq". {d} The anthrax spores that contaminated the air in Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle's office had been treated with a chemical additive so sophisticated that only three nations are thought to have been capable of making it, sources said.
"The United States, the former Soviet Union and Iraq are the only three nations known to have developed the kind of additives that enable anthrax spores to remain suspended in the air, making them more easily inhaled and therefore more deadly, experts said yesterday". <e>
Anthrax cannot be weaponized by terrorists, and it could probably never be used successfully as a military weapon. It has to be converted to spores suspended in the air, which is technically very difficult; and the lethality is nowheres near the terror that it is made out to be. To use anthrax as a weapon, it must be converted to a powder which can be inhaled. Only the US and Russian militaries have succeeded in doing that. Even Iraq used anthrax in liquid form, which is totally ineffective. The first requirement would be to aerosolize the spores. The spores would have to be converted to a dry powder, because a liquid would create globs which would fall to the ground rather than staying suspended in the air. How do workers clean the equipment without getting spores everywhere? A likely procedure would be to enclose the equipment in a pressure chamber and steam sterilize it for several days. Such an operation costs hundreds of millions of dollars, considering related facilities and development. Only countries do that, not radical groups. In fact, military and UN inspectors only found two Iraqi warheads with anthrax in them (in liquid form). If Iraq had anthrax in an effective form, it would have had it in hundreds of warheads, as they did with nerve gas. So Iraq knew its anthrax was useless. {f}
Terrorists cannot weaponize anthrax. The weaponized powder came from the US weapons labs, as demonstrated by a chemical which was on it. <g> Some weird loner didn't make this stuff in his basement.
But lets look at what the US Government was doing as far as Bioweapons research in the time leading up to 9/11, since it is looking more and more like it was from this source it came from, and the anthrax had to have been prepared before the 9/11 attacks. What the US Government was doing was withdrawing from the Bioweapons Convention and refusing to go along with inspection teams to enforce the treaty."Although the 1972 Biological and Toxin WeaponsConvention (BWC) prohibits the acquisition and possession of biological arms, it lacks a formal inspection system to ensure that the treaty’s 144 member-states are complying with their obligations. Instead, Article VI of the BWC offers only the ineffective option of appealing to the United Nations Security Council in cases of suspected noncompliance". {h} Wasn't so ineffective against Iraq though, and they were actually innocent. Was, and is, the US as innocent as the country it invaded?
It was decided years ago that inspection teams from the countries could monitor each other as a deterrant. Executive order 12735 issued by former President Bush(our current Presidents' father)even authorized them, <r> but negotiations for exactly how they would work this out were on going in 2001 when the current administration withdrew altogether. An article 2 weeks before 9/11 had this to say...... "Six years of negotiations to add enforcement provisions to the 1972 treaty outlawing biological weapons have halted. The reason: The Bush administration vetoed going ahead with a protocol to the Biological Weapons Convention that would have given states the right to obtain information about and inspect sites where biological weapons were suspected of being developed, produced, or used". <i>
Then there is an article 7 days before 9/11 where the NY Times exposed "Project Clear Vision" and "Project Jefferson", which shows the CIA and DoD were working on potent forms of anthrax. Also from this article dated Sept 4, 2001..."Earlier this year, administration officials said, the Pentagon drew up plans to engineer genetically a potentially more potent variant of the bacterium that causes anthrax, a deadly disease ideal for germ warfare". <j> It's interesting to note that one of the authors of this article is Judy Miller, who was writing cheer leading articles about invading Iraq who's main source within the administration was D Cheneys' chief of staff convicted criminal Scooter Libby, sounds like he might blab a little to much to his media friend.
No wonder Bush Jr didn't want to enforce his fathers executive order. And BTW, Clinton was guilty of expanding these programs during his time as well but uses the excuse he knew nothing about them. "Over the past several years, the United States has embarked on a program of secret research on biological weapons that, some officials say, tests the limits of the global treaty banning such weapons".-NY Times 9/4/2001 <j>
On June 5 2001 an expert testified before a house subcommittee and said "US military experts, and studies by many non-governmental experts, agree that, at present and for some time to come, terrorist groups are highly unlikely to have sufficient expertise and resources to succeed in a mass attack with biological weapons. Aum Shinrikyo, the Japanese terrorist group, had plenty of both but failed in nine attempts to mount a biological attack. Although the United States has so far concentrated on preparations for mopping up after a bioterrorist disaster, it would be foolhardy to ignore the more important goal of cutting off the source by preventing the proliferation of biological weapons. That is not something the United States can do unilaterally. The first step must be international, and strengthening the BWC is the available tool. That is why our European and other allies are so angered and dismayed by the US stance. <k>
The anthrax came from The US Military Industrial complex, and it wasn't stolen then worked up in a former employees little lab. "For nearly a decade, U.S. Army scientists at Dugway Proving Ground in Utah have made small quantities of weapons-grade anthrax that is virtually identical to the powdery spores used in the mail attacks that have killed five people, government sources say. Dugway's production of weapons-grade anthrax, which has never before been publicly revealed, is apparently the first by the U.S. government since President Richard M. Nixon ordered the U.S. offensive biowarfare program closed in 1969. Scientists estimate that the letter sent to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle originally contained about 2 grams of anthrax, about one-sixteenth of an ounce, or the weight of a dime. But its extraordinary concentration - in the range of 1 trillion spores per gram - meant that the letter could have contained 200 million times the average dose necessary to kill a person.
Dugway's weapons-grade anthrax has been milled to achieve a similar concentration, according to one person familiar with the program.
The concentration exceeds that of weapons anthrax produced by the old U.S. offensive program or the Soviet biowarfare program, according to Dr. Richard O. Spertzel, who worked at Detrick for 18 years and later served as a United Nations bioweapons inspector in Iraq". <L>
"The DNA sequence of the anthrax sent through the US mail in 2001 has been revealed and confirms suspicions that the bacteria originally came from a US military laboratory". <m>
So who are the terrorists that launched an attack using WMD, a week after 9/11? The FBI knows. "The US army has been producing anthrax in a powdered form suitable for use as a weapon, it was discovered during the FBI's investigation of the spate of letters containing the deadly spores. But the army denied yesterday that the strain it had developed was the one that has so far caused five deaths. Officers at the army's Dugway proving ground in Utah confirmed in a statement that scientists there had been turning wet anthrax into a powdered form". <n> It's a proven fact the the US Government is the source and is a proven fact that the US Government makes powdered weaponized anthrax. "It is the first time the army has acknowledged that it has been producing anthrax powder. Officers said that the powdered form was produced for testing defences against the spores in the event of a biological warfare attack. The statement said that anthrax had also been developed in aerosol form. Dugway, which is assisting the FBI in its investigation, is the US army's main testing station and has been able to produce the powdered form of anthrax since 1992". <n>
Isn't it reassuring that the only known source of making the type of anthrax that was used, is assisting the FBI in it's investigation of finding the source of the anthrax? "At first the anthrax letters were linked to the events of September 11, and Iraq was named as a possible suspect, but now the FBI believe that it is more likely to be an American who is responsible.

The FBI said that no individual associated with Dugway was being investigated". <n> Of course not! If the FBI was to solve this case it would prove to the world that the US violates bioweapons treaties and prove to it's citizens that they live under a terrorist state.Well, now the FBI in a new report wants you to believe that this was just ordinary ol' anthrax that could have come from anywhere. This is a real quote from this news report "It is believed to have been a common anthrax strain and had not been processed to make it more deadly. Even so, the anthrax was still deadly." <o> It wasn't processed to be deadly but was anyway? Remember postal workers died just from handling the equipment these letters ran through. "According to a new report, the 2001 attacks which killed five people and made 17 humans ill, used common anthrax, not military grade anthrax. As it was thought at the time that military grade anthrax was used" <o> This is a blatant and obvious lie, but thats's what guilty people do, they lie. The FBI has also refused to brief members of congress on their phony investigation. Senator Chuck Grassley had this to say in a letter to the FBI. "We're seeing more and more agencies thwart the Constitutional responsibility of Congress. Unfortunately, the FBI’s refusal to provide briefings to Congress following the 2001 anthrax attacks appears to be the rule rather than the exception," Grassley said. "In one of the most important terrorism investigations ever undertaken by the FBI, it is unbelievable to me that members of Congress, some who were targets of the anthrax attacks, haven’t been briefed for years." Congressman Rush Holt added this, "The FBI's refusal to brief Congress on this matter is unprecedented and inexcusable," said Rep. Holt. "The anthrax attacks harmed the heath and livelihoods of my constituents and paralyzed the government and national commerce. All Americans deserve to know why this five-year investigation has made so little progress." 33 members of congress signed a letter addressed to former Attorney General Gonzalez demanding to know what is going on with the investigation. <p>
But our dictator doesn't think that's a good idea. And he's a smart guy, after all he seemed to know that there might be an anthrax attack when 9/11 happened, since he and the whitehouse staff starting taking cipro, the anthrax antidote on 9/11, 7 days before the first anthrax letter was mailed. "The FBI’s investigation seems to have dead-ended, and frankly, that is not very reassuring given their performance with the September 11th hijackers," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. "One doesn't simply start taking a powerful antibiotic for no good reason. The American people are entitled to know what the White House staffers knew nine months ago, " he added. {Q}
Which brings up the point I started with. If the US Government is behind the Anthrax attacks, and from the evidence it is obvious. Then 9/11 was indeed an inside job. No one punished or even repreminded, but instead promoted for their "failures", on 9/11 and no arrests from the anthrax attacks that immediately followed. This is just one of the many smoking guns laying around.


















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Re: ANTHRAX-A Bigger smoking gun than WTC 7
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 01:05:30 pm »
Take a step back from the small details of events surrounding 9/11 .... then consider them all a single plan to terrorize the United States.

Does the term "SHOCK & AWE" come to mind? 

-Iconic buildings hit with airliners and then demo'ed.
-Govt. Buildings under the daily threat of Biological/Chemical Attacks.
-All of of the above where either Financial, Political, or Military headquarters.

The Mass Media hammered the public non-stop with footage of the events, interviews with "Experts" on specific fields, and round-table dicussions regarding the identity of those responsible.

This overall view of the events certainly gives the appearance to a co-ordinated effort to "SHOCK and AWE" the American people into sheeple mode...allowing the abuse of powers that followed.

Think for a minute ... then ask yourself if you have ever heard the terminology of "SHOCK & AWE" used before, say maybe 2 years after the events of 9/11.

The battle plan is based on a concept developed at the National Defense University. It's called "Shock and Awe" and it focuses on the psychological destruction of the enemy's will to fight rather than the physical destruction of his military forces.

"We want them to quit. We want them not to fight," says Harlan Ullman, one of the authors of the Shock and Awe concept which relies on large numbers of precision guided weapons.

"So that you have this simultaneous effect, rather like the nuclear weapons at Hiroshima, not taking days or weeks but in minutes," says Ullman.

In the first Gulf War, 10 percent of the weapons were precision guided. In this war 80 percent will be precision guided.

The Air Force has stockpiled 6,000 of these guidance kits in the Persian Gulf to convert ordinary dumb bombs into satellite-guided bombs, a weapon that didn't exist in the first war.

"You're sitting in Baghdad and all of a sudden you're the general and 30 of your division headquarters have been wiped out. You also take the city down. By that I mean you get rid of their power, water. In 2,3,4,5 days they are physically, emotionally and psychologically exhausted," Ullman tells Martin.

Last time, an armored armada swept into Kuwait and destroyed Saddam's elite republican guard divisions in the largest tank battle since the World War II. This time, the target is not the Iraqi army but the Iraqi leadership, and the battle plan is designed to bypass Iraqi divisions whenever possible.

If Shock and Awe works, there won't be a ground war.

Strange that the EXACT principle is applied in both events... 9/11 & Onset of Gulf War II.  The effect is to simply dumbfound the minds of Americans / Iraqi Army/Civilians into simply giving up.

Who at the time had access to that specific strain of Anthrax AND...( VERY IMPORTANT HERE ).....AND had the ability to conceive/plan/execute "SHOCK and AWE".

More links on the origin of Shock and AWE:

That answer is the smoking gun.


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Re: ANTHRAX-A Bigger smoking gun than WTC 7
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 03:39:58 pm »
Ironic it was the Anthrax connection that first put me on to the whole Tory Episcopal-socialist (neoCon/Zionist) 9/11 Conspiracy game.

You may add this old article of mine to your thread

Anthrax the Perfect CIA Weapon

The only disagreement I have with Alex on this item is the clear connection to Island Tobacco and Jack Abramoff with the supposedly Arab/Sunni Tory-Saudi Mossad hijackers.

Alex has this weird theory it (the Bob Stevens Murder case) had something to do with Dubya's alcoholic young teen slut daughters.