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US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« on: November 22, 2010, 01:35:37 pm »
I had a look but couldnt see that anyone else has posted this yet, sorry if someone has

US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Technology

The satellite, described by the National Reconnaissance Office as the largest in the world, is believed to help Washington's eavesdropping abilities.

The unmanned Delta-4 Heavy rocket roared into the night sky in Cape Canaveral, Florida, on Sunday carrying the mysterious satellite on a mission dubbed Nrol-32.

The rocket is 235ft tall and can launch payloads of up to 24 tons into low Earth orbit.

(full story at link . . . )
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 01:38:41 pm »
Interesting, I couldn't really tell on the picture but what is that pyramid on the launching pad?
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 01:41:25 pm »
No Idea ! Bit scary this thing! I wonder what its capabilities are?
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 01:47:28 pm »
No Idea ! Bit scary this thing! I wonder what its capabilities are?

Yes very scary, considering this is the fourth launch, I wonder what were the details of the last three? Also there's no mention on what or who this will help them spy on but I think I can take a guess.....
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 01:51:33 pm »
everyone and anyone I guess :S

ANYone the lord god Obama deems a threat I guess. If you were lwader of a capable country - would'nt you shoot this thing down if it was over your sky!

There was a webpage that allowed you to track satelittles - wonder if it might be on there :S
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 02:22:12 pm »
everyone and anyone I guess :S

ANYone the lord god Obama deems a threat I guess. If you were lwader of a capable country - would'nt you shoot this thing down if it was over your sky!

There was a webpage that allowed you to track satelittles - wonder if it might be on there :S

Is this the site? http://www.n2yo.com/
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Secret U.S. Spy Satellite Launches Into Orbit on Huge Rocket

SPACE.com tariq Malik
space.com Managing Editor
space.com – 1 hr 39 mins ago
This story was updated Nov. 22 at 1:28 p.m. ET.

A huge unmanned rocket carrying a secret new spy satellite for the United States roared into space Sunday (Nov. 21) to deliver what one reconnaissance official has touted as "the largest satellite in the world" into orbit.

The giant booster ? a Delta 4 Heavy rocket ? blasted off at 5:58 p.m. EST (2258 GMT) from the Cape Canaveral Air Force Base in Florida carrying a classified payload for the U.S. National Reconnaissance Office. [Photo of the spy satellite's dazzling night launch]...

...The exact purpose of the new spy satellite NROL-32 is secret, but one NRO official has hinted at the huge size of the reconnaissance spacecraft.

entire article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20101122/sc_space/secretusspysatellitelaunchesintoorbitonhugerocket


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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 02:36:37 pm »
Not sure but it looks like it might do . . . let me have a play and see what i can find.
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 02:38:44 pm »
Name NORAD ID Int'l Code Launch date Period
[minutes] Action
COSMO-SKYMED 4 37216 2010-060A November 6, 2010 97.1 Track it | Passes
MERIDIAN 3 37212 2010-058A November 2, 2010 725.7 Track it
COSMOS 2469 37170 2010-049A September 30, 2010 717.7 Track it
SBSS (USA 216) 37168 2010-048A September 26, 2010 97.4 Track it
USA 215 37162 2010-046A September 21, 2010 108.2 Track it
AEHF 1 (USA 214) 36868 2010-039A August 14, 2010 1058.7 Track it
YAOGAN 10 36834 2010-038A August 9, 2010 97.3 Track it | Passes
OFEQ 9 36608 2010-031A June 22, 2010 95 Track it | Passes
COMSATBW-2 36582 2010-021B May 21, 2010 1436 Track it
COSMOS 2463 36519 2010-017A April 27, 2010 105 Track it | Passes
OTV 1 (USA 212) 36514 2010-015A April 22, 2010 90.9 Track it | Passes
RADUGA 1M-2 36358 2010-002A January 28, 2010 1436.1 Track it
HELIOS 2B 36124 2009-073A December 17, 2009 89 Track it
WGS F3 (USA 211) 36108 2009-068A December 6, 2009 1436.1 Track it
IGS 5A 36104 2009-066A November 28, 2009 1436.1 Track it
COSMOS 2455 36095 2009-063A November 20, 2009 103.1 Track it | Passes
DMSP 5D-3 F18 (USA 210) 35951 2009-057A October 18, 2009 101.9 Track it
COMSATBW-1 35943 2009-054B September 30, 2009 1436.1 Track it
STSS DEMO 2 (USA 209) 35938 2009-052B September 25, 2009 91.5 Track it
STSS DEMO 1 (USA 208) 35937 2009-052A September 25, 2009 91.5 Track it
COSMOS 2454 35635 2009-039A July 21, 2009 103.6 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2453 35500 2009-036C July 6, 2009 116 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2452 35499 2009-036B July 6, 2009 116 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2451 35498 2009-036A July 6, 2009 116.1 Track it | Passes
MERIDIAN 2 35008 2009-029A May 21, 2009 645.4 Track it
TACSAT 3 35001 2009-028A May 19, 2009 93.3 Track it | Passes
SICRAL 1B 34810 2009-020A April 20, 2009 1436.1 Track it
RISAT-2 34807 2009-019A April 20, 2009 94.5 Track it | Passes
WGS F2 (USA 204) 34713 2009-017A April 4, 2009 1436.1 Track it
RADUGA-1 8 34264 2009-010A February 28, 2009 1436.1 Track it
SPIRALE B 33752 2009-008D February 12, 2009 637.7 Track it
SPIRALE A 33751 2009-008C February 12, 2009 637.8 Track it
USA 202 33490 2009-001A January 18, 2009 98.1 Track it
COSMOS 2446 33447 2008-062A December 2, 2008 717.8 Track it
SKYMED 3 33412 2008-054A October 25, 2008 97.2 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2441 33272 2008-037A July 26, 2008 99.2 Track it | Passes
SAR LUPE 5 33244 2008-036A July 22, 2008 94.3 Track it | Passes
SL-12 R/B(2) 33111 2008-033D June 27, 2008 1436.4 Track it
COSMOS 2440 33108 2008-033A June 27, 2008 1436.2 Track it
SKYNET 5C 33055 2008-030A June 12, 2008 1436.1 Track it
SAR LUPE 4 32750 2008-014A March 27, 2008 94.3 Track it | Passes
USA 200 32706 2008-010A March 13, 2008 1436.1 Track it
USA 198 32378 2007-060A December 10, 2007 94.9 Track it
SKYMED 2 32376 2007-059A December 9, 2007 97.2 Track it | Passes
STAR ONE C1 32293 2007-056A November 14, 2007 1436.1 Track it
USA 197 32287 2007-054A November 11, 2007 97.3 Track it
SAR LUPE 3 32283 2007-053A November 1, 2007 94.3 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2429 32052 2007-038A September 11, 2007 104.7 Track it | Passes
SAR LUPE 2 31797 2007-030A July 2, 2007 94.3 Track it | Passes
USA 194 31701 2007-027A June 15, 2007 103.7 Track it
OFEQ 7 31601 2007-025A June 10, 2007 95 Track it | Passes
SKYMED 1 31598 2007-023A June 8, 2007 97.2 Track it | Passes
NFIRE 31140 2007-014A April 24, 2007 93.1 Track it | Passes
INSAT 4B 30793 2007-007A March 11, 2007 1436.1 Track it
CFESAT 30777 2007-006F March 9, 2007 95.8 Track it | Passes
FALCONSAT 3 30776 2007-006E March 9, 2007 95.7 Track it | Passes
STPSAT 1 30775 2007-006D March 9, 2007 95.8 Track it | Passes
OE (NEXTSAT) 30774 2007-006C March 9, 2007 95.1 Track it | Passes
MIDSTAR 1 30773 2007-006B March 9, 2007 94.5 Track it | Passes
OE (ASTRO) 30772 2007-006A March 9, 2007 94.4 Track it | Passes
SAR LUPE 1 29658 2006-060A December 19, 2006 94.3 Track it | Passes
KOREASAT 5 29349 2006-034A August 22, 2006 1436.2 Track it
COSMOS 2422 29260 2006-030A July 21, 2006 718 Track it
EROS B 29079 2006-014A April 25, 2006 94.8 Track it | Passes
SPAINSAT 28945 2006-007A March 11, 2006 1436.1 Track it
ESSAIM-4 28497 2004-049F December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
ESSAIM-3 28496 2004-049E December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
ESSAIM-2 28495 2004-049D December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
ESSAIM-1 28494 2004-049C December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
HELIOS-2A 28492 2004-049A December 18, 2004 97.9 Track it
OFEQ 5 27434 2002-025A May 28, 2002 95.6 Track it | Passes
STRV 1C 26610 2000-072C November 16, 2000 707.8 Track it
MTI 26102 2000-014A March 12, 2000 95.2 Track it | Passes
HELIOS 1B 25977 1999-064A December 3, 1999 97.4 Track it | Passes
ARGOS 25634 1999-008A February 23, 1999 101.5 Track it | Passes
SKYNET 4D 25134 1998-002A January 10, 1998 1452.2 Track it
USA 133 25017 1997-064A October 24, 1997 87 Track it
COSMOS 2346 24953 1997-052A September 23, 1997 104.4 Track it | Passes
REX 2 23814 1996-014A March 9, 1996 101.1 Track it | Passes
USA 115 23712 1995-060A November 6, 1995 91.4 Track it
HELIOS 1A 23605 1995-033A July 7, 1995 97 Track it
STRV 1B 23126 1994-034C June 17, 1994 488.7 Track it
STRV 1A 23125 1994-034B June 17, 1994 500.5 Track it
RADCAL 22698 1993-041A June 25, 1993 101.2 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 1867 18187 1987-060A July 10, 1987 100.6 Track it | Passes

Its not listed here . . . yet :S
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 02:42:52 pm »
Name NORAD ID Int'l Code Launch date Period
[minutes] Action
COSMO-SKYMED 4 37216 2010-060A November 6, 2010 97.1 Track it | Passes
MERIDIAN 3 37212 2010-058A November 2, 2010 725.7 Track it
COSMOS 2469 37170 2010-049A September 30, 2010 717.7 Track it
SBSS (USA 216) 37168 2010-048A September 26, 2010 97.4 Track it
USA 215 37162 2010-046A September 21, 2010 108.2 Track it
AEHF 1 (USA 214) 36868 2010-039A August 14, 2010 1058.7 Track it
YAOGAN 10 36834 2010-038A August 9, 2010 97.3 Track it | Passes
OFEQ 9 36608 2010-031A June 22, 2010 95 Track it | Passes
COMSATBW-2 36582 2010-021B May 21, 2010 1436 Track it
COSMOS 2463 36519 2010-017A April 27, 2010 105 Track it | Passes
OTV 1 (USA 212) 36514 2010-015A April 22, 2010 90.9 Track it | Passes
RADUGA 1M-2 36358 2010-002A January 28, 2010 1436.1 Track it
HELIOS 2B 36124 2009-073A December 17, 2009 89 Track it
WGS F3 (USA 211) 36108 2009-068A December 6, 2009 1436.1 Track it
IGS 5A 36104 2009-066A November 28, 2009 1436.1 Track it
COSMOS 2455 36095 2009-063A November 20, 2009 103.1 Track it | Passes
DMSP 5D-3 F18 (USA 210) 35951 2009-057A October 18, 2009 101.9 Track it
COMSATBW-1 35943 2009-054B September 30, 2009 1436.1 Track it
STSS DEMO 2 (USA 209) 35938 2009-052B September 25, 2009 91.5 Track it
STSS DEMO 1 (USA 208) 35937 2009-052A September 25, 2009 91.5 Track it
COSMOS 2454 35635 2009-039A July 21, 2009 103.6 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2453 35500 2009-036C July 6, 2009 116 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2452 35499 2009-036B July 6, 2009 116 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2451 35498 2009-036A July 6, 2009 116.1 Track it | Passes
MERIDIAN 2 35008 2009-029A May 21, 2009 645.4 Track it
TACSAT 3 35001 2009-028A May 19, 2009 93.3 Track it | Passes
SICRAL 1B 34810 2009-020A April 20, 2009 1436.1 Track it
RISAT-2 34807 2009-019A April 20, 2009 94.5 Track it | Passes
WGS F2 (USA 204) 34713 2009-017A April 4, 2009 1436.1 Track it
RADUGA-1 8 34264 2009-010A February 28, 2009 1436.1 Track it
SPIRALE B 33752 2009-008D February 12, 2009 637.7 Track it
SPIRALE A 33751 2009-008C February 12, 2009 637.8 Track it
USA 202 33490 2009-001A January 18, 2009 98.1 Track it
COSMOS 2446 33447 2008-062A December 2, 2008 717.8 Track it
SKYMED 3 33412 2008-054A October 25, 2008 97.2 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2441 33272 2008-037A July 26, 2008 99.2 Track it | Passes
SAR LUPE 5 33244 2008-036A July 22, 2008 94.3 Track it | Passes
SL-12 R/B(2) 33111 2008-033D June 27, 2008 1436.4 Track it
COSMOS 2440 33108 2008-033A June 27, 2008 1436.2 Track it
SKYNET 5C 33055 2008-030A June 12, 2008 1436.1 Track it
SAR LUPE 4 32750 2008-014A March 27, 2008 94.3 Track it | Passes
USA 200 32706 2008-010A March 13, 2008 1436.1 Track it
USA 198 32378 2007-060A December 10, 2007 94.9 Track it
SKYMED 2 32376 2007-059A December 9, 2007 97.2 Track it | Passes
STAR ONE C1 32293 2007-056A November 14, 2007 1436.1 Track it
USA 197 32287 2007-054A November 11, 2007 97.3 Track it
SAR LUPE 3 32283 2007-053A November 1, 2007 94.3 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 2429 32052 2007-038A September 11, 2007 104.7 Track it | Passes
SAR LUPE 2 31797 2007-030A July 2, 2007 94.3 Track it | Passes
USA 194 31701 2007-027A June 15, 2007 103.7 Track it
OFEQ 7 31601 2007-025A June 10, 2007 95 Track it | Passes
SKYMED 1 31598 2007-023A June 8, 2007 97.2 Track it | Passes
NFIRE 31140 2007-014A April 24, 2007 93.1 Track it | Passes
INSAT 4B 30793 2007-007A March 11, 2007 1436.1 Track it
CFESAT 30777 2007-006F March 9, 2007 95.8 Track it | Passes
FALCONSAT 3 30776 2007-006E March 9, 2007 95.7 Track it | Passes
STPSAT 1 30775 2007-006D March 9, 2007 95.8 Track it | Passes
OE (NEXTSAT) 30774 2007-006C March 9, 2007 95.1 Track it | Passes
MIDSTAR 1 30773 2007-006B March 9, 2007 94.5 Track it | Passes
OE (ASTRO) 30772 2007-006A March 9, 2007 94.4 Track it | Passes
SAR LUPE 1 29658 2006-060A December 19, 2006 94.3 Track it | Passes
KOREASAT 5 29349 2006-034A August 22, 2006 1436.2 Track it
COSMOS 2422 29260 2006-030A July 21, 2006 718 Track it
EROS B 29079 2006-014A April 25, 2006 94.8 Track it | Passes
SPAINSAT 28945 2006-007A March 11, 2006 1436.1 Track it
ESSAIM-4 28497 2004-049F December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
ESSAIM-3 28496 2004-049E December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
ESSAIM-2 28495 2004-049D December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
ESSAIM-1 28494 2004-049C December 18, 2004 98.7 Track it
HELIOS-2A 28492 2004-049A December 18, 2004 97.9 Track it
OFEQ 5 27434 2002-025A May 28, 2002 95.6 Track it | Passes
STRV 1C 26610 2000-072C November 16, 2000 707.8 Track it
MTI 26102 2000-014A March 12, 2000 95.2 Track it | Passes
HELIOS 1B 25977 1999-064A December 3, 1999 97.4 Track it | Passes
ARGOS 25634 1999-008A February 23, 1999 101.5 Track it | Passes
SKYNET 4D 25134 1998-002A January 10, 1998 1452.2 Track it
USA 133 25017 1997-064A October 24, 1997 87 Track it
COSMOS 2346 24953 1997-052A September 23, 1997 104.4 Track it | Passes
REX 2 23814 1996-014A March 9, 1996 101.1 Track it | Passes
USA 115 23712 1995-060A November 6, 1995 91.4 Track it
HELIOS 1A 23605 1995-033A July 7, 1995 97 Track it
STRV 1B 23126 1994-034C June 17, 1994 488.7 Track it
STRV 1A 23125 1994-034B June 17, 1994 500.5 Track it
RADCAL 22698 1993-041A June 25, 1993 101.2 Track it | Passes
COSMOS 1867 18187 1987-060A July 10, 1987 100.6 Track it | Passes

Its not listed here . . . yet :S

I didn't see it either,I guess we would be looking for NROL-32? Or is that just what the mission was called?
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 03:34:10 pm »
One Way Ticket To Pluto- The Dead Kennedys
Get ready for the blast off!
And don't forget the hype!
We're going into space.


Distinguished scientists
A pesky senator
And monkey turds leaking from the lab
All brought to us play-by-play by howard cosell

You're going where no man has gone before
Because we owe you some favors
And besides you're bright
A little too bright

Step one:
Senator, your vomit,
It's time to analyze it
For the folks back home

Open the hatch, launch the war satellite
That the commies aren't supposed to know about
Our real challenge is to keep it a secret
From the press back home

You're going where no man has gone before
Don't ask us where that is¡ºwe have no idea

You're chosen for this great mission

[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/one-way-ticket-to-pluto-lyrics-dead-kennedys.html ]

Because you're hearty and strong
And make a lot of fuss
Especially around us
We like you better when you're far away

Have you noticed?
You're gong the wrong direction
We have,
But that's your problem
We planned it that way
We had to dispose of all of you so
We can spoil the final frontier
How dare you question our star wars plans
For the farce that they are?

You're going where no man has gone before
For rocking the boat
In our temple of doom

You're on a one-way ticket to pluto
We wash our hands
Of you and your lost ark
Don't forget to write¡  no no no no no
No no no no no
No no no no no

Satellite launches always remind me of that song  :P
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2010, 03:40:44 pm »
:) Nice

Its project is that name - but as for what its actually called? idk.
Its interesting though - that there is no mention of a launch last sunday at all !
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 09:08:51 pm »
Here's a close-up of the launch, gotta love the subleminal messaging at 1:11  ::) http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/Video/videos/DIV/divh_nrol32_lh.wmv
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God dam cheney.. he had to get that dam bionic heart to watch this...
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2010, 09:55:35 pm »


..."I believe the payload is the fifth in the series of what we call Mentor spacecraft, a.k.a. Advanced Orion, which gather signals intelligence from inclined geosynchronous orbits. They are among the largest satellites ever deployed," ...

...Destined for geosynchronous orbit 22,300 miles above the planet, this new spacecraft supposedly will unfurl an extremely lightweight but gigantically huge umbrella-like antenna to overhear enemy communications and aid U.S. intelligence...

..."The satellite likely consists of sensitive radio receivers and an antenna generally believed to span up to 100 meters (328 feet) to gather electronic intelligence for the National Security Agency," ...

...Observers think the mesh antenna's diameter is the size of a football field, comparable to the International Space Station's remarkable width. That explains why satellite-tracking hobbyists say these Mentor craft are "by far the brightest" in the high-flying geosynchronous orbital perch to see from the ground, outshining conventional television relay birds, weather sentinels and the like...

...But despite the identity of this particular satellite being obvious, exactly where in the geosynchronous belt it will be positioned and what part of the globe it will cover are details that remain hush-hush...

..."The upcoming launch may replace one of the older spacecraft in the series, or augment the fleet by occupying a new location in geosynchronous orbit,"...

...The craft lineage can be traced to the two Magnum satellites trucked to orbit aboard the space shuttle Discovery during the STS-51C mission in 1985 and STS-33 in 1989, historians have indicated...

...The upcoming schedule calls for several more significant launches in the next few months:

A Delta 4-Heavy rocket for NROL-49 from Vandenberg on January 11
A Delta 4 rocket for NROL-27 from Cape Canaveral on March 4
An Atlas 5 for NROL-34 from Vandenberg on March 31

... "this is the most aggressive launch campaign that the National Reconnaissance Office has had in 20 years, almost a quarter of a century."...

..."The other thing I can tell you is these are very important, because they all go to update a constellation which is aging rapidly. We bought most of our satellites for three, five, or eight years, and we're keeping them on orbit for ten, twelve, and up to twenty years," ...

..."We're doing things that were designed to essentially operate during the era of the Soviet Union that are today doing tactical intelligence collection that leads us to actionable intelligence on "bad" guys every day. Every day. And we're doing it with equipment that's 15, 18, and 20 years old."...

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/delta/d351/preview.html

...

...I believe NROL-32 is likely a Mentor, headed to GEO, but until we know the launch azimuth, there
will be some room to doubt a GEO mission. If it were to head to the northeast, then we could suspect
a sixth Lacrosse, or as a much longer shot, a third Misty. I offer my speculation along those lines,
with the caveat that I have a poor track record making these sorts of assessments...

...I doubt NROL-32 is a Lacrosse, because I am just about certain that in less than two weeks, NROL-41
will launch the first of the next generation SARs (synthetic aperture radar) from VAFB, and I
believe NROL-39 and NROL-45 are the same, and likely to follow over the next few years. All three
were originally planned for launch during FY'04 - FY'08, about the time the new SARs would have
flown, had they not run into developmental problems... 

...Considering the lengthy delay of NROL-41, it may seem unlikely that any more Lacrosse await launch,
but prior to the launch of Lacrosse 1, Craig Covault, writing for Aviation Week and Space
Technology, reported in the issue of 1988 Nov 07, pg. 25, that "the technology involved is highly
advanced, involving a multitude of sensors designed for an especially long life", and they do seem
to be living up to that. I recall reading comments from NRO leaders that their spacecraft have been
lasting much longer than expected, so despite the lengthy delay, it is plausible that the first
FIA-radar launch would coincide with the final Lacrosse launch...

...Another argument favouring a Lacrosse, is that Lacrosse 5 (launched in 2005) clearly is a
modification of the design of the first four satellites, and if it is a major modification (which I
have no way to assess), then perhaps more than one was purchased...

...Orbital inclination must also be considered. Lacrosse 1 was launched into a 57 deg inclination, and
subsequent launches have alternated between 57 deg and 68 deg, so a sixth launch could be expected
to target 68 deg. That's a stretch for a CCAFS launch, but I suspect the Delta IV-H could handle the
job (I do not plan to attempt any calculations unless a high inclination launch appears likely)...

...I believe Misty is the stealthy variant of the Block 3 KH-11; it first flew in 1990 on the Shuttle,
and again in 1999 on the T-IVB (Misty was the only T-IV payload that appeared to actually require
the B version, that resulted from the SRMU program, and probably was the primary motivation for the
upgrade). The next generation Misty supposedly was killed in 2007, but I doubt anyone without the
required security clearance knows for certain; also, we cannot rule out the existence of a third
first generation Misty. So, it could be Misty 1-3, or 2-1, but probably neither...

...I suspect a Mentor over a Lacrosse, because the GEO SIGINT constellation appears to be in greater
need of fresh spacecraft. Mentor 1, launched in 1995, is outside our tracking coverage zone, but
ISON reported it synchronous at 127 E, and inclined 8.7 deg, as of Jan 1. It began life inclined 6
deg, which perturbations reduced to ~2.5 deg during 2000-03; since then it has grown, and by now is
>9 deg. It would appear due for replacement...

...Mentor 2, launched in 1998, has been tracked by us since 2003. It was at 44 E until spring 2009,
when it was replaced by Mentor 4, which was launched in Jan 2009. After a slow drift westward, it
recently arrived near 15 W, which appears to be its new home. It began life inclined at 7.3 deg,
which naturally reduced to 7.0 deg by 2003, and since then has increased to 8.2 deg...

...Mentor 3 was launched in 2003, and I believe it has spent its whole life at 96 E, which is outside
our tracking coverage. It began life inclined at 5 deg, which naturally reduced to 3 deg during
2006-08, and has since increased past 4 deg. It is reasonable to assume that it is healthy; likewise
Mentor 4...

...So, with only two reasonably fresh Mentors in orbit, four of the highly durable Lacrosse in orbit,
and the next generation SAR about to be launched, NROL-32 seems most likely to be a Mentor...

http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Sep-2010/0090.html

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***live tracking will be out soon, this things to big to hide...
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Re: US Launches Giant Eavesdropping Satellite
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 04:06:21 am »
Thanks TRY . . . so its all about "enemy" sigint they say :S
Nothing to do with tracking wireless signals from non combatants !

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