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My "issues" with this story so far:

1) The "MI6" tip off - who? when? how?
2) Last night there were reports of 15 parcels - so far they have 1 here in the UK and 1 or 2 in the states - no more mention of the others or how they knew there was 15. They keep mentioning that there could be more incidents.
3) Yemmen? This only started with Yemmen this year. Yemmen is strategically placed - have reason to invade Yemmen and take it over (as surely we would they are not a very advanced country) then you would control the water ways leading up to , Iran and other countries. Russia has been sending things by sea to Iran reportedly.
4) The fighter jet escort for that plane into the US - Makes NO SENSE - IF it contained a bomb it should not have been directed into a civilian airport - in any event what use was the fighter jet escort? It could`nt "do" anything whether the package blew or not. BUT IT LOOKS GOOD ON THE NEWS MAYBE.
5) They keep saying its some how linked to the underpants bomber but that it is more sophisticated - better planned - there is no proof that the two are linked they are different entirely the explosive used, the MO both completely different..
6) Targetting 2 Chigago Jewish Temples?
7) "bombs" in one box mobile phones presumeably some kind of triger mechanism in a different box - so then they could trigger it during the flight - and also planes don`t work at altitude anyways.
8 ) High grade explosive - nearly undetectable PETN - was blamed for london bombs first - before they backtracked
9) ALREADY COBRA meeting to UP SECURITY MEASURES
I`m sure there are more things coming
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Oh yeah - i forgot a good one

you take out a cargo plane you kill - if your lucky 4 people and blow up alot of other stuff that is likely insured anyway.

the bomb was not meant to explode mid air then. but - there was no trigger on the boxes - so - once they arrived in chigago - what? Rabbi discovers the thing and its taken away and still no one is hurt.

???

waste of expensive explosive from a military point of view
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"Shoe Bomber" Dec 01

"Liquid Bombers" Aug 08

"Underwear Bomber" Dec 09

Now the printer bombers! Oct 10
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I believe Yemen is where the U.S.S.  Cole was attacked by the suicide boaters.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

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They're really pushing for FEAR in advance of the election...

Obama: Suspicious packages are a 'credible terrorist threat'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/29/AR2010102904395.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2010102904852
By Peter Finn, Greg Miller and Anne E. Kornblut
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 30, 2010; 12:20 AM

VIDEO: Obama: 'Credible terrorist threat' against U.S.
President Obama remarks on the "credible terrorist threat" against the U.S. involving cargo planes en route to the U.S. containing packages that apparently

Two packages mailed from Yemen and addressed to synagogues in Chicago contained explosive material and represented a "credible terrorist threat," President Obama said Friday, as authorities focused their investigation on an increasingly lethal affiliate of al-Qaeda.

U.S. counterterrorism officials suspect that the packages, which were intercepted in Britain and Dubai, were sent by al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which had already demonstrated a flair for sophisticated bombmaking in an attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas Day.

Obama did not specify any new security measures that would be taken or say that the nation's terrorist alert level had been raised. But he described the threat as serious and pointed once again to Yemen as the source of a terrorist plot, saying his top terrorism adviser, John O. Brennan, had been in touch with that country's president.

The two packages were intercepted at separate locations, one on a UPS plane at East Midlands Airport near Nottingham, England, and the other at a FedEx facility in Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates. Officials provided no details on the kind of explosives found, but they said they were looking at the possibility that the substance used was PETN, the same explosive used in the Christmas Day plot.

A U.S. official said the search for the devices was triggered by a "tip from a very close ally of the United States." The tip was relayed to U.S. authorities Thursday and contained "very specific information" about devices in packages being shipped to the United States from Yemen, the official said.

Brennan, in a statement, said the United States was "grateful to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for their assistance in developing information that helped underscore the imminence of the threat emanating from Yemen."

"We were looking for packages that were of concern," Brennan said. He said he briefed Obama before the first package was found in Britain about 3:30 a.m. Friday local time.

U.S. authorities were scrutinizing other packages coming from Yemen, but only the two packages found in Britain and Dubai had been identified as dangerous. Those devices were "intended to do harm," Brennan said.

The plot is certain to reinforce concerns about al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, an organization in which an American-born cleric, Anwar al-Aulaqi, plays a leading role.

Twice in the past year and a half, AQAP was able to get a PETN-based bomb past security and in position to strike a major target. The first time, in August 2009, one of the group's operatives smuggled an explosive hidden in a body cavity into a meeting with Saudi Arabia's top counterterrorism official. The bomber was killed; his intended target, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, survived.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a Nigerian trained in Yemen, had a similar device hidden in his underwear during his alleged attempt to take down the Detroit-bound airliner in December.

Both devices are said to have been developed by AQAP's bombmaking expert, Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri.

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Al-Asiri: The official boogey-man for False-Flag bomb fear-mongering operations:

al Qaeda Group Threatens to Attack World Cup--CBS News
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=166124.msg987314#msg987314

New al-Qaeda 'body bombs' that can beat airport security are alarming experts
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=138585.0

Airport Worker Pervs Over Woman In Body Scanner: “I Love Those Gigantic Tits”
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=164362.msg977175#msg977175

Hand swabbing to be added to airport screenings to data mine DNA
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=160257.0

They keep recycling the same script over and over again.


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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8098139/Cargo-plane-terror-alert-bombs-designed-to-harm-US-synagogues.html

This from UK telegraph

TIP OFF CAME FROM SAUDI

There were reports that up to 20 similar suspect packages had been sent from Sana’a, the capital of Yemen, targeting synagogues in the US

Thing is - IF this had of gone off - it would not have achieved anything !
A few poor pilots dead maybe
A few planes destroyed
No major effect though. Its confusing because as a "terror" plot it isnt very good is it?

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UK Home Sec to ive a speech after COBRA meeting

My guesses?

They are going to suspend flights from yemmen
They are going to increase screening
. . .
What else might they do?
BBC news now saying that the warning of a "mumbai style attack" a few days ago was cover for action just as the threat tot he new york sub way last xmas was cover for the underpants bomber.

make of that what you will!

Imagine being labelled as the underpants bomber :S
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  Pathetic, imobilize the masses with fear, justify increasing security-HS the Gestapos, more incursions pre emptive strikes-, perpetuate the war on terror, in preparation for a hardcore FF, the real deal, the big bang.
  There was a telly show long ago, the outer limits..The beggining was the same, the image became blured and a voice would say, don't be alarmed we controll your imagery, your sight and mind.It reminds me of the method used by the controllers.
  Ever question your perspective? I have, for many years I have been painfully aware of the infiltration of traitors within our GOV.( the abomination) for decades. There are times I compare what I see to that of what the majority sees and beleives. I ask my self, have I gone over the edge, wtf, how is it possible the majority beleives these shiiitbags, I see them deceiving the people on a daily basis, yet the masses line up and wiggle the flag and sit in awe of these ratbastards as if they were the gods on earth.
  No problem, its only  a fleeting moment and the reality returns, oh yes its unnerving, to see human beings mentally dominated by these leaches on high, it is the outer limits, a horror show.
  

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Last updated: 08:34:19 PM GMT(+03) Friday, 29, October, 2010 
 
 
Suspicious Package to U.S. not from Yemen; Yemenia Air Cargo Director
   
 
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Mohammed al-Shaibah, Air Cargo Director for Yemenia Airways said to Yemen Post, "No UPS cargo plane left Yemeni lands over the land 48 hours. These accusations are false and baseless."
He added, "No UPS or DHL cargo packages heading to Chicago through Yemen took place in the last 48 hours as well."


"All packages are checked very carefully in Yemen, and there is no evidence to prove that this package came through Yemen."
CNN reported the suspicious package, which contained a "manipulated" toner cartridge, tested negative for explosive material, the source said, but it led to heightened inspection of arriving cargo flights in Newark, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and a UPS truck in New York.

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UPDATE: No U.S. Commercial or Private Plane left Yemen to the U.S. over last 48 hours; Yemeni Official     
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A Yemeni official told Yemen Post that no U.S. cargo aircraft of any American company flew out of Yemen over the last 48 hours. "Whether UPS, Fed Ex, DHL or any other U.S. cargo company left Yemen over the last 48 hours."


Hamed Farg, Head of the Yemen Civil Aviation Authority told Yemen Post that the Yemeni government will distribute a press release in the next hour with the latest updates concerning the matter.
 

International media reported the suspicious package, which contained a "manipulated" toner cartridge, tested negative for explosive material, the source said, but it led to heightened inspection of arriving cargo flights in Newark, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and a UPS truck in New York.

Yemen Post Staff

http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2707&MainCat=3
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So, apparently the Cremora (trademark registered) and old TV circuit board were not even from Yemen -- so not probably from al-Qaeda.

Just al-CIAduh.

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Cartridges never sounded so dangerous!

In Uncategorized on October 30, 2010 by crescentandcross

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(c) 2010 by Waqar H. Rizvi, News Anchor/Commentator–Press TV
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One can only laugh at the desperation shown when a government resorts to “terrorist threats” whenever it needs to garner enough support for its sinister plans.

Department of Homeland Security statement: “[Commercial airline passengers are being told to expect] an unpredictable mix of security layers that include explosives trace detection, advanced imaging technology, canine teams and pat downs, among others.”

That ought to be the right dose of fear. So, how did things get so...

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http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/30/cartridges-never-sounded-so-dangerous/


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Annnnd so it begins.

I remember that show Chris ! And its kinda creepy when you give it the spin you mention. Creepy - But very true.

(It might explain WHY ON EARTH people are more concerned with the results of x factor or its ilk than with the blatant lies they are being told or the yellow chemtrails being laid right outside their windows ! :/)
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More Hysteria: Ink Cartridge Tested Negative For Explosive Material        

CNN
Friday, October 29, 2010

(CNN) — At least two U.S. airports were on high alert Friday after investigators found a suspicious package on a plane in the United Kingdom the night before, a law enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation said.

The suspicious package, which contained a “manipulated” toner cartridge, tested negative for explosive material, the source said, but it led to heightened inspection of arriving cargo flights in Newark, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and a UPS truck in New York.


Police also were investigating a suspicious package at the distribution center of an airport in East Midlands, in the United Kingdom, an airport spokesman said. Authorities said they could not immediately connect that investigation to the ones unfolding in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania.

Authorities seemed most focused on inspecting cargo planes...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/more-hysteria-ink-cartridge-tested-negative-for-explosive-material.html



original link (before CNN changed their story to the PETN hoax):

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/10/29/security.concern/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1



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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/29/hazmat-incident-at-philadelphia-airport/?hpt=T1

[Update 11:31 a.m.] Investigators in the United Kingdom found a suspicious device containing a "manipulated" toner cartridge aboard a plane flying from Yemen to Chicago when it stopped in London on Thursday night - one reason for heightened concern at U.S. airports on Friday, a law-enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation said. The device tested negative for explosive material.

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It is impossible to believe these lying clowns at this point (my own dear U.S. government) when they (now) say there were powerful explosives involved.  But, even if they were, there is good reason to believe they did not originate in Yemen.

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They first said it was negative - but further tests supposedly revealed it to be PETN
IF you believe anything they say
(I do not)
Its a tactic I think - if yemen attacks "us" then we can go in guns blazing and secure it (?) then we can gain control of the entrance to the red sea. That means maybe controling the flow of things into saudi / egypt etc and t would be a good vantage point for an attack on Iran.
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yemen post

http://yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2707

UPDATE: No U.S. Commercial or Private Plane left Yemen to the U.S. over last 48 hours; Yemeni Official   
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A Yemeni official told Yemen Post that no U.S. cargo aircraft of any American company flew out of Yemen over the last 48 hours. "Whether UPS, Fed Ex, DHL or any other U.S. cargo company left Yemen over the last 48 hours."


Hamed Farg, Head of the Yemen Civil Aviation Authority told Yemen Post that the Yemeni government will distribute a press release in the next hour with the latest updates concerning the matter.
 

International media reported the suspicious package, which contained a "manipulated" toner cartridge, tested negative for explosive material, the source said, but it led to heightened inspection of arriving cargo flights in Newark, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and a UPS truck in New York.

Yemen Post Staff 
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Do we have tail numbers for these planes involved? Can their flight paths be confirmed?
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Saturday, 30, October, 2010
Yemen Post Staff

According to a senior governmental official who spoke to Yemen Post on anonymity, Yemeni security forces arrested two Yemeni women under suspicion of sending the packages to the United States.
The Yemeni official claims that the two women sent the packages in order to damage the reputation of Yemen and not on links of Al-Qaeda. He denied that Al-Qaeda had links to the packages that were sent.


The source confirmed to Yemen Post that the two ladies are believed to have tried to send the packages to Jewish schools in the United States.
 

He confirmed that the Yemeni government is trying its best to cooperate with the international community its war against Al-Qaeda.
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Too many irregularities and inconsistencies.  Too many things do not add up.  I tend to think this is all bull$hit again, but then the government is like the little boy who cried wolf at this point.

I still don't believe there were necessarily explosives or that they were sent from Yemen -- let alone the idea that they were packed up by al-Qaeda.

Yemeni authorities would probably kow-tow to the U.S. as far as they could without justifying intervention, which they probably do not want -- or do not want yet, in any case.

Don't believe the new story coming out of Yemen.

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All this was is a ruse to trick the dumb idiots who watch CBS or CNN or FOX and believe what they hear. It will hep draw confidence in the Obama administration where none is due. The Republicans who believe in the terror threat will look at it as proof Al-CIA>DEA is still alive and well, The dems will see it as a justification as why Obama continues the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is also a chance provocation to win some seats for the dems in the coming election. So when  the Dems steal votes through voter fraud the talking heads on TV will say "This terror attacked swayed votes". f**k this system burn it to the ground.

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"Shoe Bomber" Dec 01

"Liquid Bombers" Aug 08

"Underwear Bomber" Dec 09

Now the printer bombers! Oct 10
I know we can read much by facial expression etc. BUT, take a good look at no 1, patsy + 1/2, he's no rocket scientist.
 Skip to number 3, , putty in the hands of the controllers.
  Strapping the flamable substance to this slobs ballsaks reaks of Bush humor.


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More from sky

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Terror-Plot-Explosives-Originated-In-Yemen-So-What-Danger-Does-The-Birthplace-Of-Al-Qaeda-Pose/Article/201010415786224?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15786224_Terror_Plot%3A_Explosives_Originated_In_Yemen%2C_So_What_Danger_Does_The_Birthplace_Of_Al_Qaeda_Pose

Investigations into explosives found on US-bound planes are just beginning, but the origin of the packages has been confirmed as Yemen - the birthplace of al Qaeda.
Speaking about the latest terror alert, President Barack Obama said it could be the work of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), a branch of al Qaeda that has grown in power and notoriety in recent years.

The group is considered a major threat by both MI5 and MI6, who have voiced concerns about its apparent influence in radicalising lone "extremists" and the burgeoning number of plots being planned from the country.

AQAP leader Anwar al Awlaki - a former aide to Osama bin Laden - speaks fluent English, having lived in both the UK and US.

His online messages reach followers living in the West and often urge them to stage lone attacks - a new form of terrorism which is more difficult for security services to track.

Al Awlaki was first linked to extremism when it emerged he may have acted as a "spiritual guide" to three September 11 attackers.

He was also said to have exchanged emails with US Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who shot dead 13 people at the Fort Hood military base in Texas last December.

AQAP is also thought to be behind the attempt by Nigerian "underpants bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to blow up a passenger plane heading to Detroit on Christmas Day 2009.

Yemen, the poorest country of the Arab nations, has struggled to limit the influence of al Qaeda, particularly as the group has retreated back to the country following increased Western influence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

In April, an al Qaeda suicide bomber almost succeeded in assassinating Tim Torlott, Britain's ambassador to Yemen.

Earlier this month, terrorists targeted Fiona Gibb, the deputy chief of the British embassy in the capital Sana'a.

The US has attempted to help Yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh step up military operations against the terrorist group, but his collaboration with the West has provoked widespread resentment in a country where anti-American sentiment runs high.


There are indications that al Qaeda and its affiliates are growing less attached to the kinds of spectacular attacks they once seemed to prefer.

US official who wished to remain anonymous

US officials are now hoping to combine the counter-terrorism effort with programmes designed to alleviate poverty, illiteracy and rapid population growth, in a bid to avoid further resentment and increased support for al Qaeda.

Yemen and AQAP's possible role in the latest attempted attack has highlighted another danger in the fast-changing world of terrorism - the use of simple devices with high-impact results.

US officials and intelligence analysts say al Qaeda is increasingly drawn to less sophisticated attacks that require less communication and, in turn, are harder to spot.

"There are indications that al Qaeda and its affiliates are growing less attached to the kinds of spectacular attacks they once seemed to prefer," said a US official on condition of anonymity.

"They're looking more and more to less sophisticated, less costly, and perhaps less detectable operations."


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A formitable theory is that this round of BS terror is create the national narrative for a huge swing for the elections on Nov. 2 - away from the real representative candidates and toward the false two party paradigm.  It won't matter which of the two parties wins, cause both ultimately serve the same masters.  

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For sure it serves some purpose but god knows what

It must be something bigger than mid terms
It must also benefit the other countries involved

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Breaking: They just seized 24 more packages

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Terror-Alert-Suspect-Yemen-Packages-Probed-After-Discovery-On-Planes-In-East-Midlands-And-Dubai/Article/201010415785784?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15785784_Terror_Alert%3A_Suspect_Yemen_Packages_Probed_After_Discovery_On_Planes_In_East_Midlands_And_Dubai

THE YEMEN AL-QAEDA ARE SHEEP DIPPED CIA AGENTS.

THIS MEANS THE CIA HAS BEEN PLANNING ANOTHER TERROR ATTACK ON THE US AND MUST BE INVESTIGATED.

THE GITMO MK ULTRA PROJECT IS WHERE MANY OF THESE SHEEP DIPPED CIA CONTROLLED TERRORISTS COME FROM.

OTHERS HAVE BEEN CIA SHEEP DIPPED AGENTS FOR DECADES.

THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE 24 SUSPECTED PACKAGES ALL AT THE SAME TIME IS VIA STATE SPONSORED CIA/MI6 EFFECTS BASED OPERATIONS.

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Yemen Officials: Stop Lying You Fearmongering Nazis!
Packages Didn’t Come From Yemen
Officials Insist No Cargo Planes Even Left Yemen in Last 48 Hours

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/10/29/yemen-officials-packages-didnt-come-from-yemen/
by Jason Ditz, October 29, 2010

With the eyes of the world on Yemen and officials pointing the finger squarely at the al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) group based in the nation’s south, Yemen’s government is cautioning against jumping to conclusions, and denying that the bomb plot packages came from Yemen at all.

“No UPS or DHL cargo packages heading to Chicago through Yemen took place in the last 48 hours,” insisted Yemenia Airways’ Air Cargo Director Mohammed Shaibah. Officials with the nation’s Civil Aviation Authority insisted that ono US cargo aircrafts left the nation at all in the past 48 hours.

All reports have indicated that the packages were marked as having come from Yemen. It is unclear exactly how to reconcile this with the Yemeni government’s claims that they couldn’t possibly have originated there.

The various “suspicious packages” included some which tested positive for explosives and others with included printed circuit boards and wires. The exact nature of the plot remains a mystery as officials are still examining all of the devices and running tests on the apparent explosive payloads. Whatever the case, it seems clear the Yemeni government is eager to deflect attention.
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We need the tail numbers - then we could verify these planes actually flew.

To TPTB who haunt this forum:

If they really came from yemen - RELEASE THE TAIL NUMBERS AND PROVE IT!

Otherwise admit you were wrong! or worse that you were lying !
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Worse still the sheeple are buying it !

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Terror-Alert-Suspect-Yemen-Packages-Probed-After-Discovery-On-Planes-In-East-Midlands-And-Dubai/Article/201010415785784?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15785784_Terror_Alert%3A_Suspect_Yemen_Packages_Probed_After_Discovery_On_Planes_In_East_Midlands_And_Dubai

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Posted by: fatbob5 from cardiff on October 30, 2010 4:00 PMJayram, last time i checked - we are not living in a totalitarian facist stateRecommend (4)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: craig c on October 30, 2010 3:58 PMBombs or not bombs seems to be a theme on here but can someone tell me why our prime minister has not attended the COBRA meeting and at least LIED to us how safe we are . His absence is strange considering what is going on.Recommend (5)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: jbird from Devon on October 30, 2010 3:37 PMWonder if they could be modified to be dropped from our Reaper drones in Afghanistan ? Seems a shame to let them go to waste.Recommend (36)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: Harry UAE from Dubai UAE on October 30, 2010 3:23 PMNo one has mentioned the UPS 747 Cargo plane that crashed in Dubai attempting to make an emergency landing killing the two pilots only a few weeks ago... No link to the present situation???Recommend (20)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: marshboogle on October 30, 2010 3:19 PMInkybonky is living up to his/her/its name, what makes you an authority on bomb making? it might be an idea for MI5 to do a check on your background. Anyhow, was it only a few days ago that the idiots in charge of airlines said they wanted to do away with many of the security checks at airports, Do they still think that is a good idea??Recommend (18)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: newscook on October 30, 2010 3:19 PM@fasy786 - You're living in a fantasy world, if you believe that pulling Israel out of Palestine will end global terrorism. In any case, go and do some proper reading about the Israel/Palestine situation. Seems to me that most of the Pro-Palestine lobby read wikipedia and conveniently omit any details which may not count in their favour.Recommend (26)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: boudica55 on October 30, 2010 2:56 PMIt is time they brought in a restricted travel policy for all rogue states also stopping all aid to these countries as the aid doesnt reach the people it is meant for ...why are our politicians so weak ..we need strong politicains who will put the safety of the British people first and not the rights of the terrorists ..we have pander to these criminals for too long and we have seen this country being dragged backwards enough is enough ..Recommend (62)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: David Slater on October 30, 2010 2:51 PMIT WONT BE LONG BEFORE THIS REALLY GETS OUT OF HAND

BEFORE LONG, SOMEONE WILL PUSH THE BIG RED BUTTON SENDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO FLATTEN THE THREAT

THEN REPRISALS WILL BE CATASTOPHIC

WORRIED ABOUT THE PLANET AND GLOBAL WARMING?

I THINK WE WILL ALL BE GONE LONG BEFORE THAT HAPPENSRecommend (22)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: DeeG on October 30, 2010 2:48 PM@ responsible adult :

I understand where you are coming from re. the bombing of a cargo plane & that you may not know this, but the cargo area at East Midlands airport is attatched to and is part of the passenger airport at East Midlands.Recommend (7)Report this commentPermalinkPosted by: BRIERLEY.GARETH on October 30, 2010 2:42 PMIt's only a matter of time before one of these sophisticated explosive devices does actually get detonated and explodes in flight causing havoc as the remains of a civillian/cargo plane falls to the ground killing and maiming hundreds and possibly thousands of people.
I think this was a test by a terrorist group just to see how capeable airport security and intel really is?
I prey my home or head will not fall victim to a mid air disaster caused by an exploding plane falling from its flight path

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Worse still the sheeple are buying it !

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Terror-Alert-Suspect-Yemen-Packages-Probed-After-Discovery-On-Planes-In-East-Midlands-And-Dubai/Article/201010415785784?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15785784_Terror_Alert%3A_Suspect_Yemen_Packages_Probed_After_Discovery_On_Planes_In_East_Midlands_And_Dubai

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Posted by: fatbob5 from cardiff on October 30, 2010 4:00 PMJayram, last time i checked - we are not living in a totalitarian facist stateRecommend (4)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: craig c on October 30, 2010 3:58 PMBombs or not bombs seems to be a theme on here but can someone tell me why our prime minister has not attended the COBRA meeting and at least LIED to us how safe we are . His absence is strange considering what is going on.Recommend (5)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: jbird from Devon on October 30, 2010 3:37 PMWonder if they could be modified to be dropped from our Reaper drones in Afghanistan ? Seems a shame to let them go to waste.Recommend (36)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: Harry UAE from Dubai UAE on October 30, 2010 3:23 PMNo one has mentioned the UPS 747 Cargo plane that crashed in Dubai attempting to make an emergency landing killing the two pilots only a few weeks ago... No link to the present situation???Recommend (20)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: marshboogle on October 30, 2010 3:19 PMInkybonky is living up to his/her/its name, what makes you an authority on bomb making? it might be an idea for MI5 to do a check on your background. Anyhow, was it only a few days ago that the idiots in charge of airlines said they wanted to do away with many of the security checks at airports, Do they still think that is a good idea??Recommend (18)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: newscook on October 30, 2010 3:19 PM@fasy786 - You're living in a fantasy world, if you believe that pulling Israel out of Palestine will end global terrorism. In any case, go and do some proper reading about the Israel/Palestine situation. Seems to me that most of the Pro-Palestine lobby read wikipedia and conveniently omit any details which may not count in their favour.Recommend (26)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: boudica55 on October 30, 2010 2:56 PMIt is time they brought in a restricted travel policy for all rogue states also stopping all aid to these countries as the aid doesnt reach the people it is meant for ...why are our politicians so weak ..we need strong politicains who will put the safety of the British people first and not the rights of the terrorists ..we have pander to these criminals for too long and we have seen this country being dragged backwards enough is enough ..Recommend (62)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: David Slater on October 30, 2010 2:51 PMIT WONT BE LONG BEFORE THIS REALLY GETS OUT OF HAND

BEFORE LONG, SOMEONE WILL PUSH THE BIG RED BUTTON SENDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO FLATTEN THE THREAT

THEN REPRISALS WILL BE CATASTOPHIC

WORRIED ABOUT THE PLANET AND GLOBAL WARMING?

I THINK WE WILL ALL BE GONE LONG BEFORE THAT HAPPENSRecommend (22)Report this commentPermalink
Posted by: DeeG on October 30, 2010 2:48 PM@ responsible adult :

I understand where you are coming from re. the bombing of a cargo plane & that you may not know this, but the cargo area at East Midlands airport is attatched to and is part of the passenger airport at East Midlands.Recommend (7)Report this commentPermalinkPosted by: BRIERLEY.GARETH on October 30, 2010 2:42 PMIt's only a matter of time before one of these sophisticated explosive devices does actually get detonated and explodes in flight causing havoc as the remains of a civillian/cargo plane falls to the ground killing and maiming hundreds and possibly thousands of people.
I think this was a test by a terrorist group just to see how capeable airport security and intel really is?
I prey my home or head will not fall victim to a mid air disaster caused by an exploding plane falling from its flight path

Oh Dear.

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Hey look at the International Terrorism Grid where the goal is to create false terror alerts all over the country to scare the living shit out of everyone to accept an IBM NEW WORLD ORDER TERROR ALERT GRID!




Security alert at Belfast airport-The security alert is at Belfast International Airport
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11658569

U.S. says al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula behind cargo terror plot
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/10/29/al.qaeda.arabian.peninsula/

Yemeni officials make first arrest in probe of package bombs
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/yemeni-officials-arrest-probe-package-bombs/

Cargo plane bomb alert: 'ink cartridge bomb' found on plane in London
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8097333/Cargo-plane-bomb-alert-ink-cartridge-bomb-found-on-plane-in-London.html

Barack Obama says explosive package terror threat is 'credible'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/29/bomb-scare-sinister-packages-planes

Explosives Found on Planes amid US Terror Probe
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/29/national/main7003334.shtml



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Maybe that is really what the "missile defense shield" is...an IBM Skynet Sense and Response system to automate mass genocide all over the planet!
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If their were real terrorists they would be attacking the world bank or the EU HQ or maybe the bilderberg group. Hell kidnap Kissinger or Rockefeller but because the terrorists are not real and Al-CIAduh is a proxy of the zionist military industrial complex they will continue to attack the free peoples of the planet because they are the real threat to global enslavement by the Illuminazi's.
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If their were real terrorists they would be attacking the world bank or the EU HQ or maybe the bilderberg group. Hell kidnap Kissinger or Rockefeller but because the terrorists are not real and Al-CIAduh is a proxy of the zionist military industrial complex they will continue to attack the free peoples of the planet because they are the real threat to global enslavement by the Illuminazi's.

I disagree. All terrorist acts only help the state. Do not forget the Joe Stack false flag. The WTC and Pentagon are supposedly pillars of "The State". The Pentagon and WTC have been bombed before in proven false flag attacks.

Hitler's Reichtag was a similar issue.

The reason why the State requires terrorism is because they loose any non-violent confrontation and debate EVERY SINGLE TIME!

The reason why opressive regimes require false flag and provocateured violence is because without it, they are bound by the constitution or other limited forms of authority over the rights of man.

The rights of man and the liberty message defeats every single argument and every single skeptic non-violently.

Never forget who the terrorists are...

"The terrorists hate us for our freedoms" -GWB 9/20/2001, the only true thing he ever said!
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Toner Bomb Results in More Airport Molestation
http://www.infowars.com/toner-bomb-results-in-more-airport-molestation/
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October 30, 2010

The absurd accumulation of junk found on a UPS plane from Yemen to Chicago ridiculously described as an al-Qaeda bomb has provided the government with an excuse to conduct “an unpredictable mix of security layers that include explosives trace detection, advanced imaging technology, canine teams” and intimate “pat-downs,” more accurately described as breast and crotch groping. It has been almost a decade since we were told Muslim cave dwellers made NORAD stand down and performed miracles with the laws of physics. Since that time not one airport instance of officialdom molesting millions of air passengers has produced a hidden bomb or threat to aviation. In fact, as in the case of the fizzle pants non-bomber, the government has allowed potential threats to board aircraft. The idea is to get you accustomed to physically submitting to government thugs at airports and soon enough at the post office and local mall. The idea is to have you choose a dangerous naked body scanner over some dim-wit with blue latex gloves groping your private parts.
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I don't know where these pics are originally from but they're posted on a moderated military photos site.

An undated handout picture released to ******* on October 30, 2010 shows a printer which was contained in a parcel intercepted by Dubai security officials. The parcel intercepted in Dubai and bound for the United States contained a bomb hidden in a printer and bore the hallmarks of al Qaeda, Dubai police said on Saturday. They added the parcel contained explosive pentaerythritol trinitrate (PETN) in a printer and cartridge.






I wonder what Ptech wonderboy came up with this crap. Can't they be more imaginative? This is too plain jane. Something is up for sure.

More bullshit photo ops here:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?188535-Weekend-Photos-30th-and-31st-October-2010
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More proof of UPS false flag BS...ink bomb addressed to Rham's Rabbi
« Reply #115 on: October 31, 2010, 01:26:53 am »
WTF kind of total fricking psyops is this?

Now Rham is using this total Mossad/MI6/CIA false flag scare tactic just for him to win a fricking mayoral race on Tuesday?

STOP TERRORIZING THE WORLD FOR PERSONAL GAIN YOU ILLUMINUTS!



Ink bombs ‘built to explode in mid-air,' says Cameron as woman suspect arrested in Yemen
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325279/Ink-bombs-built-explode-mid-air-Cartridge-explosives-brought-plane-flying-Britain.html
By Sharon Churcher
Last updated at 1:52 AM on 31st October 2010

Arrest comes after U.S. and UAE provided intelligence to Yemen
Investigators search for more suspects linked to Al Qaeda
Bomb discovered on jet in UK following MI6 tip-off
Similar Fed-Ex package seized in Dubai
'Bombs' were addressed to synagogues in Chicago

The ink-bomb found on a US-bound cargo plane in Britain was designed to explode in mid-air, David Cameron said yesterday. ‘We believe the device was designed to go off on the aeroplane,’ the Prime Minister said. ‘There is no early evidence it [the explosion] was designed to take place over British soil, but of course we cannot rule that out.’ The bomb was found on Friday at East Midlands Airport, near Nottingham, on a cargo plane en route from Yemen to Chicago. Dubai police discovered parts of a computer printer with explosives loaded into its toner cartridge found in a package onboard a cargo plane coming from Yemen. Yesterday, a woman was arrested in Yemen accused of posting the two bombs found on the planes. Defiant: David Cameron said the incident stressed the importance of unity and determination in the fight against terrorism A similar device was found on a plane in Dubai. Both bombs were in packages addressed to Jewish organisations in Chicago.  One is a synagogue where one of President Obama’s closest associates, Rahm Emanuel, has been educating his children. And US security experts warned last night that the bombs could just as easily have ended up on passenger planes, which carry more than half of the international air cargo coming into the country. Home Secretary Theresa May, speaking yesterday after a meeting of the Government’s Cobra emergency planning committee, said the device found in Britain was ‘viable’ and ‘could have exploded’. She added: ‘The target of the device may have been an aircraft and, had it detonated, the aircraft could have been brought down.’ She said the terrorist threat level would remain at its current level of ‘severe’, which indicates an attack is ‘highly likely’, and announced a ban on all unaccompanied air freight from Yemen moving into or through the UK. Yemeni security forces last night arrested a woman suspected of sending the packages after a tip-off from the US. And 24 suspicious parcels were being examined at Yemen’s international airport.  Investigators said the suspect was detained as part of a manhunt for a number of people believed to have used forged documents and ID cards that played a role in the plot that was thwarted on Friday. All of them are believed to have links to Al Qaeda's faction in Yemen.
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Re: More proof of UPS false flag BS...ink bomb addressed to Rham's Rabbi
« Reply #116 on: October 31, 2010, 01:36:07 am »
Let us scan the international terror drills going on...

October 28, 2010 -- Chinese amphibious unit arrives in Thailand for joint drill (0)
October 22, 2010 -- Turkey-China Military Drill Reveals Deepening Ties, Widening Reach (0)
October 21, 2010 -- Sino-Thai special force anti-terror joint training concluded (0)
October 12, 2010 -- Chinese warplanes refueled in Iran enroute to NATO exercise in Turkey (0)
http://www.china-defense-mashup.com/?p=7311



India:

Anti-terrorism drill to be held across state’s 800-km coast
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/2/20101017201010170425266439d42ca6b/Antiterrorism-drill-to-be-held--across-state%E2%80%99s-800km-coast.html?pageno=1
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Posted On Sunday, October 17, 2010 at 04:25:26 AM

After conducting two successful exercises to strengthen the city's coastline, the Indian Navy, the Coast Guard and the Maharashtra police will now hold the combat war game 'Sagar Kavach' through out the state's 800-km coastline. The joint exercises are aimed to making defence lines stronger so that terrorists do not infiltrate through sea route like they had during the 26/11 terror attacks. The earlier two exercises were limited to Mumbai, while this time four districts of the coast have been incorporated. Director General of Police D Sivanandhan confirmed about the exercise but did not divulge any information saying, such operations are meant for preparedness and not to alert the terror elements. The rules of this war game are simple. The three agencies -- Navy, Coast Guard and Police form joint teams, which are given a free hand to device plans to get on to the land through sea. The teams act as terror groups, whose job is to breach the coastal security and try to capture vital installations.



Kopassus, Australia’s SAS to Hold Joint Counter-Terrorism Drill in Bali
Sunday, 26 September 2010 23:27             
http://www.theindonesiatoday.com/news-headline/4354--kopassus-australias-sas-to-hold-joint-counter-terrorism-drill-in-bali.html
The joint counter-terrorism exercise is done at a time Indonesia launched massive hunts on terrorist cells. General Manager PT Angkasa Pura I Ngurah Rai Airport, Heru Legowo was quoted by State news agency Antara as saying that the joint exercise will be called ‘Dawn Komodo 2010’. The counter-terrorism joint exercise is aimed at showing the international community that the Ngurah Rai Airport security is up to international standard. The drill will involve 300 personnels from the elite troops of the two countries. Of this, 69 are Kopassus elite troops, SAS 25 troops and the remaining are supporting personels, from military officers, police and Angkasa Pura personnel. Under the planned simulation, they will free passengers who were detained by terrorists who hijacked an aircraft on its way from Jakarta to Perth, Australia via Bali.
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Odd thing about that UPS plane from Yemen to Chicago via the UK.  UPS doesn't fly out of Yemen.  According to a company spokesman

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Mangeot said UPS does not run its own flights from Yemen. In fact, the only place it does fly in the Middle East is Dubai. UPS has 17 weekly flights in and out of the city in the United Arab Emirates.

at link >> http://www.ajc.com/business/too-soon-to-tell-701931.html

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THE UPS TERROR FLIGHT FROM YEMEN THAT NEVER WAS!


Obama's "scare the Americans into voting Democratic" plan is already in trouble. The official story on Friday October 29th was that an unnamed ally issued a warning for British authorities to be on the lookout for a suspicious package sent from Yemen to Great Britain on a UPS flight. A search of the UPS flighty on the ground in Britain yielded a package containing a printer toner cartridge sprayed with a white substance that looks like plastic Christmas tree snow.



To make the "toner cartridge of death" look even scarier, a circuit board was attached to the outside with wires. Careful analysis of the card itself suggests it is a circuit card from a TV set, most likely the tuner, circa 1980s



Note carefully there is no battery to power this object, nor were any detonators found.

The initial reports of the toner cartridge reported no explosives were found in it.

     link:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8097333/Cargo-plane-bomb-alert-ink-cartridge-bomb-found-on-plane-in-London.html

Of course, Obama claimed exactly the opposite, which left the BBC struggling to placate the President while not allowing themselves to look like they were changing the original story to do it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmA5tHzOR0U&feature=player_embedded

But the story gets better! The original claim was that the suspicious package originated in Yemen and flew to Britain on an aircraft owned by UPS, and the media showed us all the video of a UPS aircraft being stopped and searched on the runway in Britain.



But there is a problem. There are no UPS aircraft flying in and out of Yemen!

UPS own website (from before the so-called terror incident) does not list Yemen as one of their service regions.

http://www.upslogisticstech.com/pub/worldwide/EMEA/

A PDF file (which includes the history of the document from weeks ago) listing of all the international airports the UPS aircraft fleet flies to does not list Yemen as a destination!

http://www.ups.com/aircargo/using/services/airports/internationalAirports.pdf


In short, there was not and could not be a UPS aircraft flying out of Yemen.

UPS uses a subcontractor, Sun Tours, to handle shipping in and out of Yemen. Sun Tours sends their shipments via Yemenia Air, and Yemenia Air's Cargo Director reports there were no shipments sent through Yemen to Chicago for the 48 hours prior to the "discovery" of the toner cartridge in Britain.

http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2705&MainCat=3

A second claim that a flight from Dubais carried packages from Yemen has been refuted by the United Arab Emirates' Civil Aviation Authority.

 http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2010/10/uae-rejects-us-claims-on-flight-201/

In short a toner cartridge that cannot explode shows up on a UPS jet which could not have come from Yemen, and Obama pounds it for all its worth trying to save the Democrats next Tuesday. Frankly I think Americans should be outraged not that Obama tried such a stunt, but that after all the times Bush was caught using terror scares for political gain that Obama thinks you are all stupid enough to fall for it again! If tonight's polls are accurate, you weren't and you didn't and Obama may have just screwed his own party to the point where they are all praying for Diebold to save them!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/23/olbermann-timeline-how-th_n_88110.html





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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/UPSYemen.php
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Good overview of the false-flag/hoax IMO.

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^ good report from Rivero! Also, they are changing the carriers from UPS to FedEx to DHL...total False Flag giveaways...the terror story is evolving in real time to try and fill in all of the obvious holes to the sham.
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