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Offline phasma

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'Mind-Reading Machine' Turns Thought To Words
« on: September 13, 2010, 04:10:08 pm »
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/Mind-Reading-Machine-Translates-Brain-Signals-Into-Words-Scientists-At-Utah-University-Discover/Article/201009215720465?lpos=Technology_Second_Technology_Article_Teaser_Region__0&lid=ARTICLE_15720465_Mind-Reading_Machine_Translates_Brain_Signals_Into_Words%2C_Scientists_At_Utah_University_Discover

A mind-reading machine may no longer be the stuff of science-fiction after researchers discovered a way to translate people's thoughts into words.
 
The technology could soon be tested on people with "locked-in" syndrome



Using sensors attached to the speech centres of the brain, scientists converted brain signals into speech for the first time.

An epileptic patient, who had part of his skull removed for another operation, was fitted with two button-sized grids of 16 tiny electrodes.

The team recorded brain signals as he repeatedly read the words yes, no, hot, cold, hungry, thirsty, hello, goodbye, more and less.

He then said the words back to a computer and the brain signals matched the word 76% to 90% of the time.

The rest of the story is at the above link . . .

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Re: 'Mind-Reading Machine' Turns Thought To Words
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 01:47:30 pm »
Reading you nerve signals would be an easier option. Since subliminal word reading is already available and have probably been available for a long time.
Neuroprosthetics are nothing new. The first cochlear implant was implanted in 1961 by William House in Los Angels. Shealy attempt at spinal cord stimulation  for chronic pain was done in 1967.
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In 1899, J A McWilliam reported in the British Medical Journal of his experiments in which application of an electrical impulse to the human heart in asystole caused a ventricular  contraction and that a heart rhythm of 60-70 beats per minute could be evoked by impulses applied at spacings equal to 60-70/minute
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Making almost undetectable neuroprosthetics is easy. Today the transistor size is about 45nm or even smaller. Growing nano-wires to make nano-electrodes are probably feasible.

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Re: 'Mind-Reading Machine' Turns Thought To Words
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 08:21:05 pm »
Interesting stuff. Still 70% right means 30% wrong.
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Re: 'Mind-Reading Machine' Turns Thought To Words
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 08:47:52 pm »
Interesting stuff. Still 70% right means 30% wrong.

And cutting one's skull and brain open to electronically tap into the speech center is hardly what one would consider "reading thoughts"

LOL

An artificial speech prosthetic maybe, but hardly something Jack Bauer could rely upon to save our planet from yet another member of the Bush family!

DEAR thread titler, please read this: speech center patterns

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Re: 'Mind-Reading Machine' Turns Thought To Words
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 09:01:11 pm »
Thoughtfullness and speaking are two entirely different things.

Languages were invented to lie with.

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 06:36:26 am »
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hence morgellon's sydrome; some claim it is the victims' bodies rejecting the wires etc

If some off these had sent these wires in for Energy Dispersive Spectroscopy or some other materials characterization technique.They could get prof that these wires are foreign to the body and are probably implanted.


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Languages were invented to lie with

If you use languages in your thoughts or when reasoning with your self, you will produce a lot of subliminal speech that can be picked up from the nerves. By placing neuroprosthetics close to the cranial nerves responsible for producing speech, reading subliminal speech is possible.


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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 07:28:53 am »

If you use languages in your thoughts or when reasoning with your self, you will produce a lot of subliminal speech that can be picked up from the nerves. By placing neuroprosthetics close to the cranial nerves responsible for producing speech, reading subliminal speech is possible.


The vocalization controller (sound ROM and programmed arithmetic logic) and speech output servo interface is what is being discussed here, not the main processor, processing queues (RAM) programmed and/or physical memory.

Creating a composition is an entirely separate host of groups of processes and sub processes from that of "printing" one that has been formed and queued for output.

Do your lips move when you listen, read or think?

Maybe with enough electrodes synced appropriately and the proprietary formatting algorithms (not to mention filetype codecs) one could some day read-out somebody's whole "hard drive" but that's far from what this silly hardwired "spinal tap" thingy is, or appears to be sort of capable of.

The most sophisticated prosthetic interfaces to date are merely for optical input. Nothing is anywhere near cracking the OS

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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 07:45:19 am »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_gyrus

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Geschwind proposed that written word is translated to internal monologue via the angular gyrus.

People have a lot more internal monologue than they're aware of.

But yes, I think someone who knows how the tech works can also deceive observers.


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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2010, 07:59:12 am »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_gyrus

People have a lot more internal monologue than they're aware of.

But yes, I think someone who knows how the tech works can also deceive observers.


Exactly, tapping into the output port (or output data bus) of somebody's "sound board" is a far cry from picking the program, location, player, format and file one wants to hear.