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Last week, John McCain introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate which, if passed, would actually allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime.

The stated purpose of S. 3081 (The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act) reads: “To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.”

The bill has nine co-sponsors including Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA).

Section 5 of S. 3081 states:

“An individual, including a citizen of the United
States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent
under section ...


http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-virginia-beach/sen-john-mccain-wants-to-allow-u-s-citizens-to-be-arrested-held-indefinitely

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S 3081 has nine co-sponsors including Sen. Joe Lieberman. If passed, it would allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime.

Just thought I'd point that out.

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Well if thats the case little Johny shoud get the cuffs on, ...........traitors first Johny....

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Lets see if they pass it. They keep trying to over and over .. I'm sure they will tie it to some other bill that will be easy to pass and at least get part of what McCain is asking for. It's past the point of no return.

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Anyone who co-sponsors this bill, votes for it in congress/senate  really show their true colors of being a traitor to the U.S.

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Good job Arizonans, voting for this retard in the primary.

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Good job Arizonans, voting for this retard in the primary.

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Yeah.. Idk why they keep voting for this fool.. I think my dog can make a better senator.


How was the guy he was running against in the primary?

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Yes, John McCain among many other of his fellow current and former DeMOBlican/RepublicRAT criminals should well all be arrested and held indefinitely without the danger of them ever escaping back into the public by means of so-called "trials" before corrupt "poverty=guilt/wealth=innocence" so-called "courts"....

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Yes, John McCain among many other of his fellow current and former DeMOBlican/RepublicRAT criminals should well all be arrested and held indefinitely without the danger of them ever escaping back into the public by means of so-called "trials"...

If you think Insane McCain won the vote legitimately, I've got some oil free ocean front property in the GOM to sell you.
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Arrest the illegal alien from Panama!


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If you think Insane McCain won the vote legitimately, I've got some oil free ocean front property in the GOM to sell you. But of course you know that already.


Well, you know, if that is what they really want most dearly, far be it from lowly us to deny them...
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Yes, John McCain among many other of his fellow current and former DeMOBlican/RepublicRAT criminals should well all be arrested and held indefinitely without the danger of them ever escaping back into the public by means of so-called "trials" before corrupt "poverty=guilt/wealth=innocence" so-called "courts"....

DeMOBlican.

A perfect word!
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Excerpt from OP article:

Section 5 of S. 3081 states:

“An individual, including a citizen of the United
States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent

under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article
5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of
Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal
charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities
against the United States or its coalition partners in which
the individual has engaged, or which the individual has
purposely and materially supported, consistent with the
law of war and any authorization for the use of military
force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities.”

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So what's the definition of "enemy belligerant"?

Here it is...

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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-3081

3 (c) Determinations of Status-

(1) PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP- The high-value detainee interrogation group responsible for interrogating a high-value detainee under subsection (b) shall make a preliminary determination whether or not the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent. The interrogation group shall make such determination based on the result of its interrogation of the individual and on all intelligence information available to the interrogation group. The interrogation group shall, after consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, submit such determination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General.

(2) FINAL DETERMINATION- As soon as possible after receipt of a preliminary determination of status with respect to a high-value detainee under paragraph (1), the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General shall jointly submit to the President and to the appropriate committees of Congress a final determination whether or not the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent for purposes of this Act. In the event of a disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President shall make the final determination.

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(hmmm... still no definition of "enemy belligerent"....)


And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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may be detained without criminal
charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities
against the United States or its coalition partners in which
the individual has engaged, or which the individual has
purposely and materially supported, consistent with the
law of war and any authorization for the use of military
force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities
.”

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So what's the definition of "enemy belligerant"?

Here it is...

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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-3081

3 (c) Determinations of Status-

(1) PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP- The high-value detainee interrogation group responsible for interrogating a high-value detainee under subsection (b) shall make a preliminary determination whether or not the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent. The interrogation group shall make such determination based on the result of its interrogation of the individual and on all intelligence information available to the interrogation group. The interrogation group shall, after consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, submit such determination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General.

(2) FINAL DETERMINATION- As soon as possible after receipt of a preliminary determination of status with respect to a high-value detainee under paragraph (1), the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General shall jointly submit to the President and to the appropriate committees of Congress a final determination
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(hmmm... still no definition of "enemy belligerent"....)


Well basically the first part describes perfectly the actions and inactions of the Pentagon, FBI, government FAA and CIA ZioNAZIs who perpetrated the Daniel Chapter 8 Show against the United States on 9/11,

But, of course the second part ignores the high probability and clearly evident possibility that such "enemy belligerents" might include the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon interrogation group, members of Congressional Committees, the Secretary of Defense the Attorney General and the President...

Odd that nowhere in this list is any (apparently obsolete) politically independent Constitutionally authorized legal personage like a "judge" isn't it?

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Sen. John McCain wants to allow U.S. citizens to be arrested, held indefinitely
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-virginia-beach/sen-john-mccain-wants-to-allow-u-s-citizens-to-be-arrested-held-indefinitely
March 12th, 2010 4:21 am ET

The bill is only 12 pages long, but that is plenty of room to grant the president the power to order the arrest, interrogation, and imprisonment of anyone -- including a U.S. citizen -- indefinitely, on the sole suspicion that he or she is affiliated with terrorism, and on the president's sole authority as commander in chief.

The Act begins with the following (convoluted) requirement:

Whenever within the United States, its territories, and possessions, or outside the territorial limits of the United States, an individual is captured or otherwise comes into the custody or under the effective control of the United States who is suspected of engaging in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners through an act of terrorism, or by other means in violation of the laws of war, or of purposely and materially supporting such hostilities, and who may be an unprivileged enemy belligerent, the individual shall be placed in military custody for purposes of initial interrogation and determination of status in accordance with the provisions of this Act.

In other words, if at any point, anywhere in the world, a person is caught who might have done something to suggest that he or she is a terrorist or somehow supporting a terrorist organization against the U.S. or its allies, that person must be imprisoned by the military.

For how long?

As long as U.S. officials want. A subsequent section, titled "Detention Without Trial of Unprivileged Enemy Belligerents," states that suspects "may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners." In a press conference introducing the bill earlier this month, Sen. Joe Lieberman said, "I know that will be -- that may be -- a long time, but that's the nature of this war."

(Full article)

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Glen Greenwald
WEDNESDAY, MAR 17, 2010 09:18 ET
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/17/torture
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Meanwhile, the bill recently introduced by Joe Lieberman and John McCain -- the so-called "Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act" -- now has 9 co-sponsors, including the newly elected Scott Brown. 

It's probably the single most extremist, tyrannical and dangerous bill
introduced in the Senate in the last several decades,
far beyond the horrific, habeas-abolishing Military Commissions Act.
 

It literally empowers the President to imprison anyone he wants in his sole discretion by simply decreeing them a Terrorist suspect -- including American citizens arrested on U.S. soil.  The bill requires that all such individuals be placed in military custody, and explicitly says that they "may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners," which everyone expects to last decades, at least.  It's basically a bill designed to formally authorize what the Bush administration did to American citizen Jose Padilla -- arrest him on U.S. soil and imprison him for years in military custody with no charges.
And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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NAZI ENABLING ACT

"Law Concerning the Solving of the Emergency of the People and the Reich, 24 March 1933"


The Reichstag has issued the following decree, which is hereby announced with the agreement of the Reich Council, after having ensured that the necessary legal constitutional amendments have been made:

Article 1 - Laws of the Reich can be passed by the government, in addition to the procedure laid down in the constitution of the Reich. This also applies to laws covered by Articles 85, para. 2, and 87 of the Reich constitution.

Article 2 - The laws passed by the Reich government do not have to adhere to the constitution provided that the institutions of the Reichstag and Reichsrat have no objection. The rights of the President of the Reich remain unaffected.

Article 3 - The laws passed by the government of the Reich will be drafted by the Chancellor and announced in the Law Gazette. They will apply, provided that no other provision is made, from the day following their publication. Articles 68-77 of the constitution do not apply to the laws passed by the government of the Reich.

Article 4 - Treaties agreed by the Reich with foreign states, which concern the constitutional affairs of the Reich, do not require the consent of the legislative institutions. The government of the Reich will issue the necessary instructions for the implementation of these treaties.

Article 5 - This law applies from the day of its publication. It will expire on 1 April 1937; it will also be annulled if the present government of the Reich is replaced by another.



NOTE: There never was any annullment.
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NAZI ENABLING ACT

"Law Concerning the Solving of the Emergency of the People and the Reich, 24 March 1933"


The Reichstag has issued the following decree, which is hereby announced with the agreement of the Reich Council, after having ensured that the necessary legal constitutional amendments have been made:

Article 1 - Laws of the Reich can be passed by the government, in addition to the procedure laid down in the constitution of the Reich. This also applies to laws covered by Articles 85, para. 2, and 87 of the Reich constitution.

Article 2 - The laws passed by the Reich government do not have to adhere to the constitution provided that the institutions of the Reichstag and Reichsrat have no objection. The rights of the President of the Reich remain unaffected.

Article 3 - The laws passed by the government of the Reich will be drafted by the Chancellor and announced in the Law Gazette. They will apply, provided that no other provision is made, from the day following their publication. Articles 68-77 of the constitution do not apply to the laws passed by the government of the Reich.

Article 4 - Treaties agreed by the Reich with foreign states, which concern the constitutional affairs of the Reich, do not require the consent of the legislative institutions. The government of the Reich will issue the necessary instructions for the implementation of these treaties.

Article 5 - This law applies from the day of its publication. It will expire on 1 April 1937; it will also be annulled if the present government of the Reich is replaced by another.



NOTE: There never was any annullment.

How's that for IN YOUR FACE TYRANNY. RECOGNIZE IT McCAIN/LIEBERMAN? YOU'RE USING THE SAME SCRIPT YOU TRAITORS!
And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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How's that for IN YOUR FACE TYRANNY. RECOGNIZE IT McCAIN/LIEBERMAN? YOU'RE USING THE SAME SCRIPT YOU TRAITORS!


Why not, old Johnny knows a good thing when he sees it; that insufferable prick. Go back to Panama where you belong before you're charged with high treason. It's like they say, only the good die young. This guy ghost wrote a book on puppetry if I'm not mistaken.


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  It is still unbelievable that the voters of AZ want this rat bastard traitor back for 6 more years.
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  It is still unbelievable that the voters of AZ want this rat bastard traitor back for 6 more years.

You probably spend half your life learning about history and the way of the world, and they spend what, 3%? There's our problem!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfS79EbKtTU

Ron Paul agitates Jim Baker over War Powers during hearing 03/05/2009

RP exposes how the "war powers" laws are unconstitutional and how they are used to create dictatorial powers.

Jim Baker just has no clue how to answer so he just lies/refutes/stumbles/gets agitated.

It is like the Nazis during the Nurenberg trials "Actually the camps saved so many lives, they got food, healthcare, showers, and great jobs."
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Nazification of Germany vs. Nazification of America
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Nazification_GermanyvsAmer.html
by Norman D. Livergood

 
German Nazification Phase 1
Seizure of Power
1933: January 30
Hitler is appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg
Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Adolph Hitler Chancellor even though the Nazis were only a small minority in the German government. On his first day as chancellor, Hitler manipulated Hindenburg into dissolving the Reichstag and calling for the new elections he had wanted - to be held on March 5, 1933. President Hindenburg had fallen under Hitler's spell and was signing just about anything Hitler put in front of him. Hitler began immediately to orchestrate the complete takeover of all mechanisms of governance and functions of state, to make Nazi Germany a totalitarian dictatorship.
February 3, 1933
In a speech to the leading army and navy commanders, Hitler revealed his Lebensraum program for the conquest of "living space" for the German people, rearmament, and resistance to the Versailles Treaty. He spoke of the importance of the military and promised not to involve it in domestic political disputes.
 
American Nazification Phase 1
Seizure of Power
1999: November
Bush is appoinited President by the Supreme Court
Bush is foisted on the American public through a coup d'etat of the Supreme Court after massive election fraud perpetrated by his brother in Florida
Thousands of voters were illegally disqualified in the 2000 election in the state of Florida, when Jeb Bush and his Secretary of State compiled a false list of felons who would not be allowed to vote.
The Supreme Court was packed with reactionary right-wingers several of whom had conflicts of interest because of their ties to the Bush family.
Dubya appoints convicted criminals, racists, and corporate-controlled underlings to his cabinet.
January, 2000
Bush pushes his tax cuts for the wealthy through Congress, begins his assaults on the environment, and commands the FBI to stop investigations concerning the Bin Laden family and other suspected terrorist cells.
 
 
Phase 2
An Atrocity to Subdue the People
February 27, 1933
The Reichstag Fire
On the night the German Parliament Building--the Reichstag-- burned down, Hitler was at Goebbels's apartment having dinner. They rushed to the scene where they met Göring who was already screaming false charges and making threats against the Communists. At first glance, Hitler described the fire as a beacon from heaven. "You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in German history. . .  This fire is the beginning," Hitler told a news reporter at the scene.
 
While not all historians agree on who actually perpetrated the Reichstag Fire, writers such as Klaus P. Fischer feel that most likely the Nazis were responsible.
A dazed Dutch Communist named Marinus van der Lubbe was found at the scene and charged with arson. He was later found guilty and executed.
On February 28, 1933--the day after the Reichstag fire--President Hindenburg and Chancellor Hitler invoked Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution, which permitted the suspension of civil liberties in time of national emergency.
A Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of the People and State abrogated the following German constitutional protections:
Free expression of opinion
Freedom of the press
Right of assembly and association
Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications
Protection against unlawful searches and seizures
Individual property rights
States' right of self-government
A supplemental decree created the SA (Storm Troops) and SS (Special Security) Federal police agencies.
 
Phase 2
An Atrocity to Subdue the People
September 11, 2001
The Terrorist Attacks
When the Word Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked, Bush was reading to grade school children in Florida. When informed of the attack by his associates , he continued reading. He then flew to a security bunker in Nebraska before finally returning to the White House.
No military aircraft had been scrambled to intercept the four hijacked planes, though there was plenty of time to do so.
The fact that there has been no genuine investigation into the 9/11 terrorist attack on American citizens creates the odor of a cover-up of gigantic proportions. Some news analysts point to the possibility that the Bush administration could have been complicit.
Hundreds of suspects were immediately jailed, without benefit of habeas corpus or other rights. Some of these suspects have already been found guilty of the crime.
The Bush junta forced the Patriot Act bill through Congress, suspending essential civil liberties. Excusing oppression as essential to the "war on terrorism," and maintaining that dissent was treason.
The Patriot Act abrogated the following American constitutional protections:
Free expression of opinion
Freedom of the press
Right of assembly and association
Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications
Protection against unlawful searches and seizures
Individual property rights
States' right of self-government
Presidential decrees make it possible for military forces to be used to monitor and control the civilian population, in abrogation of the posse comitatus act.
The Reichstag Fire Syndrome occurs whenever a democracy is destroyed by creating a law-and-order crisis and offering as a "solution" the abdication of civil liberties and state's rights to a powerful but unaccountable central dictator. The men of wealth who put the tyrant into power are then able to reap obscene war profits.
 
Phase 3
The Dictator Destroys Elections and Appoints Himself Dictator
March 24, 1933
The Enabling Act
On March 24, 1933, the Reichstag passed the Law for Terminating the Suffering of People and Nation, also known as the Enabling Law, essentially granting Adolph Hitler dictatorial power. There was no further need for elections because the Fuhrer/Dictator made all the decisions!
Since the Nazis had only been able to gain a 44% plurality in the Reichstag in the March 5, 1933 elections, Hitler looked for another way to establish a full dictatorship.
Herman Göring--later to become the head of Germany's armed forces--declared that there was no further need for State governments. So Over the next few weeks, in each of the legal Weimar states the local Nazi organizations instigated riiots and then summarily replaced the elected state government by appointed Nazi Reich Commissioners to quell the disorder.
The Nazi legislators sponsored the Enabling Act, a bill that gave Hitler dictatorial powers for four years. To make sure the law passed, the Nazis imprisoned Communists and created propaganda campaigns to influence public opinion. Just days before the vote on the bill, the Nazis held a staged ceremony in Potsdam in which Hitler was depicted as a conservative national leader, not the head of a radical party. Hitler promised that the Enabling Act would only benefit the German people.
The moment the bill passed, however, the German democratic constitution was abrogated and Nazi Party rule became absolute. Hitler immediately invoked the new law to rescind the democratic freedoms of the Weimar Republic and to dissolve political parties and organizations.
The Dictator Established
Death Camps
March 22, 1933
Dachau slave labor death camp established
The Hitler regime established the first concentration camp about 15 kilometers northwest of Munich, dedicated on March 20 by Heinrich Himmler. It held about 5,000 prisoners, mostly Communists, Social-Democrats, and homosexuals. Bavarian police guarded the prisoners until April 11, when the SS took over. The slave-labor death camps, so hideous in their reality that Germans didn't want to hear about them, became an efficient tool in silencing opponents of the regime. Dachau was a "political camp" and the first Jewish detainees were among the best-known political opponents of the Nazi regime. More than 10,000 Jews from all over Germany were interned there after the Kristallnacht pogrom. When the systematic genocide of Jews began, the Jewish prisoners were deported from Dachau and other camps in the Reich to the extermination camps in the East.
 
Phase 3
The Leader Destroys Elections and Appoints Himself Dictator
November, 2002
The Homeland Security Act
In the 2000 and now again in the midterm 2002 elections, electronic voting has meant that our democratic right to have our votes counted fairly and accurately has been taken from us by the Bush junta.
Since we now suffer under the situation where there is no opposition to the criminal Bush regime--most Democrats having effectively become pawns of the Republicans--then none of the state election frauds will be investigated. We can't be sure that key races such as that of Mondale in Minnesota and Carnahan in Missouri were not the result of massive vote fraud. We can be sure that the Florida gubernatorial race was completely fixed.
This sinister phase 3 of the nazification of America is best understood by reviewing some of the information that Greg Palast has made available. Palast is the investigative reporter for BBC and the Observer who first exposed the 2000 Florida vote crimes.
94,000 people -- over half of them African American --were on a "scrub list" in Florida, resulting in their being blocked from voting in the 2000 election. Did Florida rectify this mistake before the 2002 election? Fuhgeddaboudit! Those voters won't be reinstated in Florida until January 2003--if ever. Electronic, touch screen voting is the basis for election fraud:
votes can easily be lost through "software glitches"
Democratic votes can become Republican votes and no one is the wiser
The "touch" screens are made by ES&S, the vendor chosen by Katherine Harris, Florida Secretary of State and current congressional candidate. The lobbyist who sold that company's system to Jeb and Katherine is Sandy Mortham, founder of Women for Jeb and Harris'
predecessor as Secretary of State. Mortham was the person who instigated the scam in 1998 to find black voters who could be disqualified.
ES&S machines, not surprisingly, failed to work in Black precincts in 2002. And of course with electronic voting there is no paper ballot back-up.
In the 2002 mid-term "elections" the Republicans gained control of all branches of government:
executive, legislative, and judicial. Just as in Hitler's Enabling Act, so Bush Jr. forced the Homeland Security bill through Congress which gave him complete dictatorial powers:
the President is able to make any decision he wishes without judicial or legislative restraint
the executive branch can now carry on its meetings in secret, without scrutiny from the press or the people
the "homeland security" agents can now intrude in any part of citizen's life
slipped into the Homeland Security bill at the last moment
allows police to conduct Internet or telephone eavesdropping willy-nilly with no requirement to ask a court's permission first
demands life sentences for hackers that 'recklessly' endanger lives
allows Net surveillance to gather telephone numbers, IP addresses, and URLs or e-mail information, where an 'immediate threat to a national security interest' is suspected
permits ISPs to hand users' records over to law enforcement authorities, overturning current legislation that outlaws such behaviour
the Homeland Security Information Awareness Office will be run by a former convicted felon
up to 850,000 jobs will be privatized, knocking out union and civil service oversight
On November 14, 2002, as the Senate was being pressured to pass a hastily-prepared homeland security bill, Senator Byrd spoke out vehemently against the bill as Bush's grab for dictatorial power--the worst act of tyranny, he said, in the fifty years he's been in Congress.
Secret US Police Concentration Camps
In a revealing admission in June, 1997, the Director of Resource Management for the U.S. Army confirmed the validity of a memorandum relating to the establishment of a civilian inmate labor program under development by the Department of the Army. The document states, "Enclosed for your review and comment is the draft Army regulation on civilian inmate labor utilization" and the procedure to "establish civilian prison camps on installations."
Amid widespread rumors, Congressman Henry Gonzales clarified the question of the existence of civilian detention camps. In an interview, Gonzalez stated, "The truth is yes -- you do have these stand by provisions, and the plans are here...whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism...evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps."
On Sunday, November 10th, the New York Times announced that 200,000 to 250,000 troops would be used to attack Iraq, while 265,000 National Guard and Reserve personnal would be called to active duty--MOST OF WHICH WILL BE DEPLOYED IN THE UNITED STATES! Is Bush at war with Iraq or with American citizens?
 
Phase 4
Who knows???
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Lets see if they pass it. They keep trying to over and over .. I'm sure they will tie it to some other bill that will be easy to pass and at least get part of what McCain is asking for. It's past the point of no return.







yep, like a "You can't wear shorts anymore" Bill. It will be tucked in there.

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The last effort we (registered voters in Arizona) got to defeat John McCain this November is by putting all of our support behind David Nolan.

http://www.nolan2010.org

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this will be used for the international copyright infringement stasi system set to be rolled out.

global warming failed and the alien hoax is not ready.

plan b is a full onslaught on the American people via complete bullshit fake anti-constitutional treasonous clandestine copyright treaties.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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The last effort we (registered voters in Arizona) got to defeat John McCain this November is by putting all of our support behind David Nolan.

http://www.nolan2010.org
People there really need to make this an issue, and in any way they can.

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2010, 01:37:48 pm »
Why not, old Johnny knows a good thing when he sees it; that insufferable prick. Go back to Panama where you belong before you're charged with high treason. It's like they say, only the good die young. This guy ghost wrote a book on puppetry if I'm not mistaken.


"Look Joe, I can see Alaska from here!"

This is probably one of the most phallically suggestive photos I've ever seen in politics. The young girl where she is at makes it even sicker. . .

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As things are, no way McCain will get voted out. He's a permanent member of that group. Just look at his father, and grandfather, what they did. And alot of beer in Arizona that the common folk drink comes through his wife. He'll retire before he loses an election. I can all but guarantee it.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
1 Timothy 6:10 (KJB)

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People there really need to make this an issue, and in any way they can.
That should be one of the major drives for those who frequent this board.  Make this an issue, bring it to everyone's attention (in and outside of Arizona) what McCain is doing.  And definitely don't give this guy Nolan a free-pass either.  Put the spotlight on him with this up in his face (i.e. "alright Nolan, where do you stand on this . . . we wanna know NOW"). 

I'm tellin' ya', looking at it from another prospective, this thing could be a major opportunity for the Truth Movement if its done right.
"A fisherman putting a worm on a hook doesn't make him a friend to the fish." ― El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz aka Malcolm X

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO9Z_BIGbQU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Love the part where Lieberman tells him what to say.  ::)

How does this guy keep getting reelected? Is Arizona stunned or is he getting ballot box assistance?
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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So we should ask them...

How does it feel to know you'll go down in history as the people that destroyed the greatest country concept known to man?
And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!