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worcesteradam

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Re: ***Murdered British Spy linked to CIA covert ops and secret Pentagon missions
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2010, 03:06:40 am »
ESTABLISHMENT COVERUP PROPAGANDA QUIETLY ADMITTED TO BE TOTAL BS


MI6 spook did NOT die alone: Police certain he was padlocked in bag by someone else

The MI6 spy whose naked body was found in a sports bag in his bath could not have died alone, police believe.
They are now certain he was padlocked into the large holdall by someone else.
Gareth Williams, 31, who was working on secondment for MI6, was alive when he got into - or was forced into – the bag and died from suffocation.
There were no injuries on his body to suggest a struggle and police have still not ruled out the possibility that his death was the culmination of a bizarre sex game that went wrong.

...We can also reveal that there is no evidence to support claims that Mr Williams was a cross-dresser, that bondage equipment was found at his home, that a laptop was missing from the flat, or that he had reported to spy bosses that he was being followed.
Nor, as was claimed in one report, was any suspicious liquid found next to his body in the sports bag.
Police have also dismissed allegations of irregularities in his finances and there is no evidence that Mr Williams had committed any criminal acts.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315012/MI6-spook-did-NOT-die-Police-certain-padlocked-bag-else.html

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Re: ***Murdered British Spy linked to CIA covert ops and secret Pentagon missions
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2010, 04:31:50 am »
Daily Mail went on to say "Detectives believe that whoever was present around the time of his death might have been too scared to come forward to explain what happened."

Which strikes me as kinda obvious !
 ;D

Still waiting for a real explanation !

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Fury of spy in the bag's family: As police dismiss MI6 man's death as an accident, parents insist coroner was right and their son WAS unlawfully killed


    * Gareth Williams found dead in his Central London flat in August 2010

    * 31-year-old's death was ruled to be 'probably' foul play by a coroner

    * But Scotland Yard announced that he seems to have locked himself in bag

    * Family believe he was killed and refuse to accept result of investigation

    * They accuse MI6 of allowing circumstances of death to be 'covered up'


By Rebecca Camber
PUBLISHED: 23:05, 13 November 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2506898/Gareth-Williamss-parents-insist-son-WAS-unlawfully-killed.html




Serious question marks remained in the spy in a bag  mystery last night after a three-year police investigation failed to explain his death.

Scotland Yard chiefs said they thought Gareth Williams died alone – but were forced to admit that gaps in the evidence made it impossible to be sure.

His furious parents rejected that verdict and said they stood by a coroner’s ruling that the brilliant codebreaker was probably killed unlawfully. They also accused MI6 of allowing the circumstances of his death to be covered up.


Family: Mr Williams' parents, Ellen and Ian, at the inquest into his death in April last year. They stand by a coroner's ruling that the brilliant codebreaker was probably killed unlawfully



Mystery: The body of Gareth Williams lay undiscovered in a red holdall in the bath of his Pimlico flat for a week before security service bosses raised the alarm

The body of the 31-year-old lay undiscovered in a red holdall in the bath of his Pimlico flat for a week before security service bosses raised the alarm. Significantly, ten to 15 DNA traces found in the apartment are still unidentified, despite the efforts of leading forensic experts.

Police have also been unable to explain why his DNA was not on the lock on the bag and his prints were not found on the rim of the bath.

In a statement, Mr Williams’ parents Ian and Ellen said: ‘We are naturally disappointed it is still not possible to state with certainty how Gareth died, and the fact that the circumstances of his death are still unknown adds to our grief. We consider that on the basis of the facts at present known, the coroner’s verdict accurately reflects the circumstances of Gareth’s death.

‘We still, however, remain very disappointed over the failure of his employers at MI6 to take even the most basic inquiries concerning Gareth’s welfare when he failed to attend for work on August 16, 2010.’




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No honest person would ever work for these spook organizations! You can't trust them! Their whole business is based on lying, murdering people, and deceit! Lives are of no value to them. So, what makes you think your life is valuable to them as an employee? The first moment you get a conscience or cross them in some way, you are done!

How can people be so crazy as to work for such an organization?




Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

EvadingGrid

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No honest person would ever work for these spook organizations! You can't trust them! Their whole business is based on lying, murdering people, and deceit! Lives are of no value to them. So, what makes you think your life is valuable to them as an employee? The first moment you get a conscience or cross them in some way, you are done!

How can people be so crazy as to work for such an organization?



I've know someone who did (and at the highest level) , and they were honourable, christian, upright, patriotic types that believed the lies they was feed.

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Spy in a bag: family reject police conclusion death was 'tragic accident'
The parents and sister of MI6 spy Gareth Williams still believe he was murdered

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10446460/Spy-in-a-bag-family-reject-police-conclusion-death-was-tragic-accident.html



 The family of MI6 spy Gareth Williams, who was found dead in a locked holdall, have rejected police conclusions that he died in a tragic accident by himself.

The parents and sister of the codebreaker still believe he was murdered and launched a fresh attack on his spy masters for failures over his welfare.

The naked, decomposing body of Mr Williams, who was on secondment to MI6 from GCHQ was found in a padlocked holdall in the bath of his flat in Pimlico, London, in August 2010.

An inquest last year concluded he had been “unlawfully killed” and put in the bath by another person.



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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10446460/Spy-in-a-bag-family-reject-police-conclusion-death-was-tragic-accident.html


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Agents 'killed the body-in-bag spy... then got into his flat through skylight to destroy evidence':
New theory could solve the mystery five years later

    Gareth Williams' body was found in his London flat in August 2010
    But Mail on Sunday can now reveal unknown agent may be behind death
    Special footplates were moved after the first day of the investigation
    Led Scotland Yard to believe someone had broken into the crime scene

By Robert Verkaik for The Mail on Sunday
Published: 23:36, 15 August 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199587/Agents-killed-body-bag-spy-got-flat-skylight-destroy-evidence-New-theory-solve-mystery-five-years-later.html

Detectives who investigated the mysterious death of a British spy found padlocked in a bag in his flat believe he was murdered and that his killers then broke back in through a skylight to cover their tracks.

Gareth Williams, 31, was discovered in a holdall in the bath at his London home five years ago this month. Now a source at the heart of the investigation has told The Mail on Sunday that Scotland Yard detectives believe an agent from an unknown secret service broke into the victim’s flat to destroy or remove evidence.

The new claim centres on the revelation that part of the forensic equipment placed in the flat after the body was found was moved – despite the fact the building was under armed police guard.

Special footplates, which allow officers to walk across a crime scene without contaminating it, were moved after the first day of the investigation. This led Scotland Yard to conclude that someone must have scaled the building’s walls and broken in through the skylight to cover their tracks.

This so far unknown line of inquiry raises questions about how Mr Williams, a maths genius and expert cryptographer, really met his end. It also supports his family’s suspicions he was murdered by ‘agents specialising in the dark arts of the secret services’.

Mr Williams had been working with the American National Security Agency in Washington before returning to London, where he underwent training and was sent on active operations.

The exact nature of his work remains a closely guarded secret, but sources claim he dealt with equipment that tracked the flow of cash from Russia to Europe.

The technology enabled MI6 to follow money trails from bank accounts in Russia to criminal European gangs. One theory is that Mr Williams had disrupted a Mafia ring closely linked to the Russian state.

Cars registered to the Russian Embassy were spotted near his Pimlico flat just days before his body was discovered on August 23, 2010.

Mr Williams was last seen alive on August 15 – a Kremlin car was seen near his property that day.

Other lines of inquiry, also dismissed by the Met at the time, were that he was killed by MI6 or American agents after stumbling on sensitive data, or because he threatened to make secret intelligence public.

There were also claims Mr Williams may have been killed by a lover during a bizarre sex game.

Coroner Dr Fiona Wilcox, who heard the 2012 inquest into his death, criticised MI6 for failing to report that the spy had been missing for a week, saying this caused extra suffering for his family and led to the loss of forensic evidence.

The delay, for which MI6 apologised, also meant a Home Office pathologist was unable to find a cause of death.

Dr Wilcox concluded that Mr Williams’s death was ‘unnatural and likely to have been criminally mediated’. She said she was satisfied ‘on the balance of probabilities that Gareth was killed unlawfully’, as it was likely someone else had put his body in the bag and locked it.

But a year later, Scotland Yard ended a review of the investigation, saying it was more likely Williams had locked himself in the bag and that no one else was involved.

However, the latest line of inquiry supports the family’s belief that the flat was ‘steam-cleaned’ by secret agents – which may be why no DNA evidence was found. Their lawyer, Anthony O’Toole, told a pre-inquest hearing they believed a third party was present at the time of death or later destroyed evidence.

Mr O’Toole told Westminster Coroner’s Court: ‘The impression of the family is that the unknown third party was a member of some agency specialising in the dark arts of the secret services, or evidence has been removed post-mortem.’

It now appears the coroner was not told about the tampering with the footplates, or the belief by detectives that someone had broken into the building.

An intelligence source said: ‘The forensics officer was adamant that nobody was allowed in or out of the crime scene, so when he turned up the following day to find the footplates had been moved an investigation was launched. The only way anybody could have got into that building was to have scaled the walls and got in through the skylight.

‘This was never revealed as it was pretty embarrassing for the Met. Somebody appears to have broken in, perhaps cleaned up and got out again while officers were guarding the entrance to the flat.’




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EvadingGrid

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Got to laugh at how they try and send people off into "Its Putin's Fault", when if you read the article more carefully, you should draw a completely different conclusion.

I some how doubt the FSB really would break into the Flat while it was under Armed Police Guard, they would have balanced the cost of getting caught into the equation, and lets face it, if the Armed Police had caught the FSB breaking into the flat of the murdered spy it would have had explosive international consequences.

Then, you got to ask who would have had the motive to silence this humble geek, nerd, math head and crypto code cracker. . . who had just been working for the NSA in Washington. For a start, lets ask why they imported a Brit all the way to Washington to work for the NSA - its not as if the NSA needs help cracking codes and lacks man power or money !

Really, if we ask that question - why import a British Code Breaker to Washington to Crack Codes - we are on the right path.


worcesteradam

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They still have told us why anyone would want to kill him.

There was no problem with that over Litvinenkos death.

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Spy found dead in a bag 'had infuriated his MI6 bosses by illegally hacking into secret US data on Bill Clinton'

Mr Williams had been working with the American National Security Agency in Washington before returning to London, where he underwent training and was sent on active operations.
The exact nature of his work remains a closely guarded secret, but sources claim he dealt with equipment that tracked the flow of cash from Russia to Europe.
The technology enabled MI6 to follow money trails from bank accounts in Russia to criminal European gangs. One theory is that Mr Williams had disrupted a mafia ring closely linked to the Russian state.
Cars registered to the Russian Embassy were spotted near his Pimlico flat just days before his body was discovered on August 23, 2010.
Mr Williams was last seen alive on August 15 – a Kremlin car was seen near his property that day.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3215890/Spy-dead-bag-infuriated-MI6-bosses-illegally-hacking-secret-data-Bill-Clinton.html

The Russian Mafia and Bill Clinton?

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Que more bag jokes  8)

worcesteradam

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Re: ***Murdered British Spy linked to CIA covert ops and secret Pentagon missions
« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2015, 05:38:42 pm »
Former KGB chief Boris Karpichkov claimed Russia's SVR intelligence service had been trying to blackmail the 31-year-old into becoming a double agent at the time of his murder.
When Mr Williams refused to join them he was killed because he knew the identity of their man inside GCHQ, the Daily Mirror reported
'Williams did not break down when confronted,' Karpichkov reportedly told newspaper's Nigel Nelson.
'But he recklessly said he knew the person who had tipped the Russians off about him.
'The SVR then had no alternative but to exterminate him in order to protect their agent inside GCHQ.'
Mr Karpichkov's claims support the suspicions of the maths prodigy's family who believe he was murdered by 'agent specialising in the dark arts of the secret services’. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3250938/Was-body-bag-M16-man-killed-Russian-spy-New-claims-former-KGB-chief-says-murdered-knew-identity-Russian-mole-inside-GCHQ.html

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Re: ***Murdered British Spy linked to CIA covert ops and secret Pentagon missions
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2015, 05:51:12 pm »
Yea I saw that, but honestly I could not take it seriously.

Here is why :

If it was the FSB, then how did they order the Armed Police to "Stand Down" while they went into the crime scene and doctored / cleaned up the evidence ?


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Re: ***Murdered British Spy linked to CIA covert ops and secret Pentagon missions
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2015, 05:52:34 pm »
Spy found dead in a bag 'had infuriated his MI6 bosses by illegally hacking into secret US data on Bill Clinton'

see above

Now crazy as it sound, it the best fit to the facts of the case so far . . .

worcesteradam

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Re: ***Murdered British Spy linked to CIA covert ops and secret Pentagon missions
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2015, 06:08:38 pm »
Yea. Maybe. Ive got an open mind.