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Offline gEEk squad

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Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« on: April 18, 2010, 11:54:06 am »
Initial reports said that the plane tried to land 4 times before crashing. Now they are saying it only tried to land once, then went into the trees and crashed.

http://video.godlikeproductions.com/modules/vPlayer/vPlayer.swf?f=http://video.godlikeproductions.com/modules/vPlayer/vPlayercfg.php?fid=ab91ff51a943fdd6058

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1041555/pg1

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2010, 12:05:02 pm »
Initial reports said that the plane tried to land 4 times before crashing. Now they are saying it only tried to land once, then went into the trees and crashed.

http://video.godlikeproductions.com/modules/vPlayer/vPlayer.swf?f=http://video.godlikeproductions.com/modules/vPlayer/vPlayercfg.php?fid=ab91ff51a943fdd6058

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1041555/pg1

Yup, the 4 time thing seemed weird because first they just said tried a few times, then i heard 5 times, then they all coordinated on 4.

also there are conflicting reports of which air traffic controller station was in communication...belarus or russia or none
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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2010, 12:40:51 pm »


  Nice find,  the first time I heard 4 times it seemed  unbelievable.
I'M A DEPLORABLE KNUCKLEHEAD THAT SUPPORTS PRESIDENT TRUMP.  MAY GOD BLESS HIM AND KEEP HIM SAFE.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 01:22:50 pm »

Assassination and coverup.

This coverup is a FKup. i don't think they give a shiite anymore, its appears they are getting away with any damn thing.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 01:35:33 pm »
More evidence . . .
More suspicions justified.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2010, 06:01:55 pm »
The entire head of the Polish government was lopped off, and there are no serious calls for a REAL investigation?  AMAZING how much power is had by TPTB. 

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2010, 10:15:29 pm »
tag, for I knew it was a lie to begin with.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 10:20:36 am »
I dunno, still think its just later footage w/ patrols keeping looters out....but what do I know...

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 10:26:05 am »
I dunno, still think its just later footage w/ patrols keeping looters out....but what do I know...

Look carefully at the end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM&feature=player_embedded

I see the guy getting shot and falling. 2:10 to 2:25

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 10:28:58 am »
These suspicious objects definitely appear to be runway-end(start) marker lights, it's hard to imagine what conceivable purpose they could have served unless it is said they were put up to guide in rescue air ambulance helicopters.

But a chopper only needs a pad. ???

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 10:31:15 am »
These suspicious objects definitely appear to be runway-end(start) marker lights, it's hard to imagine what conceivable purpose they could have served unless it is said they were put up to guide in rescue air ambulance helicopters.

But a chopper only needs a pad. ???


hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm ???

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 10:38:09 am »
Look carefully at the end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM&feature=player_embedded

I see the guy getting shot and falling. 2:10 to 2:25

slow looter???

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 10:55:49 am »
slow looter???

Looter? Totally illogic.
Who's going to loot at the crash site of a presidential air plane beside an army airport?

Nobody is looting:

1- Plane crash, the guy runs to the site with his camera
2- Is told to go away, Gunshots
3- Camera guys says WTF $&#@*$ and turn his camera
4- Other gun shots
5- Films guy falling dead
6- He turns off his camera and run away to his hotel.
7- He upload the video on internet
8- Is murdered 3 days later.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 11:09:28 am »


there's more images of them at

http://polskaweb.eu/news-galerie/323.html#category

and this is evidently what they were supposed to be about:



I can't read Polish or Russian, but I can't see why that particular chopper would need ground lights to drop off political gods for daylight photo ops.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2010, 11:24:27 am »
OMG - Die Hard 2, fake everything.
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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2010, 11:31:29 am »
asuming the official story was "fog " was the cause of the accident ...sure a nice day there? ;)

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 11:33:04 am »
Looter? Totally illogic.
Who's going to loot at the crash site of a presidential air plane beside an army airport?

Nobody is looting:

1- Plane crash, the guy runs to the site with his camera
2- Is told to go away, Gunshots
3- Camera guys says WTF $&#@*$ and turn his camera
4- Other gun shots
5- Films guy falling dead
6- He turns off his camera and run away to his hotel.
7- He upload the video on internet
8- Is murdered 3 days later.

the man who filmed this was murdered 3 days later?  Link?

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010, 11:50:12 am »
the man who filmed this was murdered 3 days later?  Link?

Posted above, it's a sticky:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167231.msg995872;topicseen#msg995872

sorry wrong link, 1 sec...

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2010, 12:04:48 pm »
Wow, thanks for that.  This stuff absolutely amazes me.  Everytime I think maybe I am crazy the coincidences keep on rolling in.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2010, 12:12:06 pm »
Thanks... Yeah

Official thread "Videographer of Polish plane crash stabbed & executed while in hospital!":
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167466.0

Slowed down video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM&feature=player_embedded

Could well have been shots fired then, Damn!

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2010, 12:14:37 pm »
So we learned today:
1) The guy who film the gunshots has been assassinated.
2) The gunshots are looking more and more to be real, you can actually see a guy falling down after and other people in the wreckage.
3) The official story is false, the plane only made one attempt to land and "crashed".

Can't wait to see this on the front page of the New York Times...

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2010, 12:25:48 pm »
Looter? Totally illogic.
Who's going to loot at the crash site of a presidential air plane beside an army airport?

Ummm Lessee, about a few million russian dissidents who would be grateful to get their hands on even a tin of beans.....Desperate times, bring desperate measures...

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2010, 12:30:08 pm »
So we learned today:
1) The guy who film the gunshots has been assassinated. (Slow looter?)
2) The gunshots are looking more and more to be real, you can actually see a guy falling down after and other people in the wreckage.(of course, cant shoot looters w/ blanks, although could be rubber dumdums)
3) The official story is false, the plane only made one attempt to land and "crashed".
(since no timestamp or nobody claiming vid, nothing proved)

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2010, 12:45:32 pm »
Hollywood,
1) Looters? When the plane is still smoking, near an army base? NO WAY
2) Shoot looters with blanks? Man, stop with that ridiculous idea. Again, people don't run looting in piles of corpses when a plane goes down, specially when it's a presidential plane in an Russian Army base.
3) Video is legit, comparison with pictures has been made. You don't know what your talking about on this one.

You'll need to come up with a better explanation.

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2010, 11:02:05 pm »
Funny thing about incandescent light fixtures is that they will more or less work forever as long as they are not shocked nor disturbed by having MOVED THEM.

Then you suddenly need to change lots of bulbs

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2010, 11:05:59 pm »
Hollywood,
1) Looters? When the plane is still smoking, near an army base? NO WAY
2) Shoot looters with blanks? Man, stop with that ridiculous idea. Again, people don't run looting in piles of corpses when a plane goes down, specially when it's a presidential plane in an Russian Army base.
3) Video is legit, comparison with pictures has been made. You don't know what your talking about on this one.

You'll need to come up with a better explanation.

yeah i have not seen a decent debunk of the video yet
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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2010, 11:06:19 pm »
 thx to SolusInAeternum2 at TIU


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I enlarged the part of the video with the guy raising his arm using slightly higher quality footage


Freeze frames of the figures moving right after the crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waoTlOVsqYw

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Re: Russia changes their story about Poland plane crash
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2010, 12:05:49 pm »
check this out  :o

Survivor of Polish plane crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7Rqdy4zfU

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I just stabilised the image by compensating for the unsteady camera. Footage used: http://ia361309.us.archive.org/6/item...