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I think it may have a lot to do with the "Katyn Massacre" event they had just been attending and its significance.

Regardless, of motivation, though, it is important to remember his twin brother, the Prime Minister, is quite alive.

This is definitely a suspicious event.  I wouldn't rule out the idea that this was orchestrated in Russia, though, or perhaps done with their complicity.  Putin just happens to be in charge of the investigation ordered by Medvedev.  Hmmmm...

"Round up the usual suspects."

not a chance, that was old news drummed up almost to create a backround cover story (classic FF consitioning - similar to what was done with Aldo Moro, MLK, JFK, RFK), this was a bankers/political meeting with Russia, an obvious threat to NATO/G7 Banksters who are on the verge of imploding.

the polish banker was against using central banks against the citizens.

the bankster issue is always the one that causes heads of states to be assassinate...jfk/lincoln
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I think it may have a lot to do with the "Katyn Massacre" event they had just been attending and its significance.

Regardless, of motivation, though, it is important to remember his twin brother, the Prime Minister, is quite alive.

This is definitely a suspicious event.  I wouldn't rule out the idea that this was orchestrated in Russia, though, or perhaps done with their complicity.  Putin just happens to be in charge of the investigation ordered by Medvedev.  Hmmmm...

"Round up the usual suspects."

Katyn Massacre is a big problem for Russians. Those people in that plane are killed in the worst moment for Russia, in the moment when Russia have big influence in Georgia and Kyrgyztan.

Georgian Opposition Threatens to Repeat Kyrgyz Uprising

US-NATO War Plan Undermined? Kyrgyzstan Upheaval Endangers US Route to Afghanistan

Great Power Rivalry in Central Asia: Russia Sends Paratroopers to its Airbase in Kyrgyzstan
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The meeting was supposed to solidify Russian/Polish relations and the Katlyn massacre was to be addressed. Someone did not want these relations.

This is similar to JFK/Kruschev collaboration undermining Gehlen and the fake cold war.

But the banker I believe was the main target.

Why did he go to a political meeting?

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/06/AR2010040604925.html
http://euobserver.com/9/29820
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Tupolev's Tu-154 http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=376
 
Tupolev's Tu-154 tri-jet remains the standard medium range airliner on domestic flights in Russia and other states of the former Soviet Union and to a lesser extent in eastern Europe and Iran.

The Tu-154 was developed to replace the turbojet powered Tupolev Tu-104, plus the An-10 and Il-18 turboprops. Design criteria in replacing these three relatively diverse aircraft included the ability to operate from gravel or packed earth airfields, to be able to fly at high altitudes above most Soviet Union air traffic, and good field performance. To meet these aims the initial Tu-154 design featured three Kuznetsov (now KKBM) NK-8 turbofans (which also powered the larger, longer range Il-62) giving a relatively good thrust to weight ratio, triple bogie main undercarriage units which retract into wing pods and a rear engine T-tail configuration.

The Tu-154 first flew on October 4 1968. The first production example was delivered to Aeroflot in early 1971, although regular commercial service did not begin until February 1972.

Three Kuznetsov powered variants of the Tu-154 were built, the initial Tu-154, the improved Tu-154A with more powerful engines and a higher max takeoff weight, and the Tu-154B with a further increased max takeoff weight. Tu-154S is a freighter version of the Tu-154B.

Current production is of the Tu-154M, which first flew in 1982. The major change introduced on the M was the far more economical, quieter and reliable Soloviev (now Aviadvigatel) turbofans. Low rate production continues. Meanwhile the proposed Tu-154M-2 with two PS-90A turbofans remains unbuilt.


Tupolev Tu-154 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-154
The Tupolev Tu-154 (Russian: Туполев Ту-154) (NATO reporting name Careless) is a Soviet medium-range trijet airliner designed in the mid 1960s. One of the notable civilian aircraft of its era, the Tu-154 has been the mainstay 'workhorse' of Soviet airlines for several decades, servicing well over a sixth of the world's landmass and carrying about half of the passengers flown by Aeroflot and all its subsidiaries over that period (137.5 million per year or 243.8 billion passenger kilometres in 1990). The aircraft has been exported and operated by about 17 non-Russian airlines, as well as a number of non-Russian Air Forces. It remains the standard airliner for domestic routes across Russia and other states of the former Soviet Union (CIS).

With a cruising speed of 975 km/h, the Tu-154 is one of the fastest civilian aircraft in operation and has a range of 5280 kilometers. Capable of departing and arriving on unpaved and gravel airfields, it often operates in the extreme Arctic conditions of Russia's northern territories, where airports can be very basic. With a service life of 45,000 hours (18,000 cycles), but capable of 80,000 hours with upgrades, the aircraft is expected to continue in operation until 2016, although noise restrictions have seen services to western Europe and other areas restricted in recent years.

On 10 April 2010, a Tupolev 154 carrying the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, his wife, and central bank governor Slawomir Skrzypek crashed upon landing at Smolensk-North air base in Russia killing (As of 4/10/2010 4:00 am, US Mountain Time) all of the 132 passengers.


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The Tupolev Tu-154 (NATO reporting name Careless) is a Russian medium-range trijet airliner. It remains the standard airliner for domestic routes in Russia and other states of the former Soviet Union and to a lesser extent in eastern Europe and Iran.

The Tu-154 was developed fom the twin-engined Tupolev Tu-134 to replace the jet-powered Tupolev Tu-104, plus the Antonov An-10 and Ilyushin Il-18 turboprops. It is sometimes called the "Tu-134 with everything thrice." It is designed to operate from austere gravel airfields, to be able to fly at high altitudes above most Soviet Union air traffic, and for takeoff performance.

Design features
Its construction is sturdy with 14 big low-pressure tires enabling it to land on snow-covered, unpaved runways without sustaining serious damage. Initially it had three rear-mounted Kuznetsov NK-8-2 jet engines, arranged like the engines on the Boeing 727, giving it a relatively good thrust-to-weight ratio. It has triple bogie main undercarriage units which retract into wing pods, and a T-tail empennage. These features make Tu-154 a reliable and economical workhorse. Close to 1000 have been built with requests even today for resumption of production.

Statistically, the Tu-154 has one of the poorest safety records. However, Tupolev 154's chequered safety record owes more to errors than technical problems. For individuals used to Boeing or Airbus airliners, the cabin of the Tu-154 can seem cramped. The impression is of an oval interior with a lower ceiling than is common on western airliners.

The Aeroflot Tu154 is arranged with 3x3 seating, with even less legroom than the most tightly packed budget US airlines. In order to stand upright it is necessary to fold down the next seat forward. The underseat space is dominated by a large round bar, making it impractical to place much of anything under the seat in front of you. The overhead bin is too small for much other than coats and purses. One should plan luggage carefully bearing these facts in mind.

Variants
Many variants of this versatile airliner have been built. Apart from the normal differences between weights and powerplants, the Tu-154 even has a couple of completely esoterically fuelled versions! Like its western counterpart, the Boeing 727, many of the Tu-154s in service have been hush-kitted, and some converted to freighters.

Tu-154 / Tu-154A / Tu-154B
The Tu-154 entered service with Aeroflot in 1972. Three variants, all powered by Kuznetsov, have been built. The initial Tu-154, the heavier Tu-154A with more powerful engines, and the Tu-154B with a further increase in maximum takeoff weight. Tu-154S is a freighter version of the Tu-154B.
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So the question is who is going to step in to replace these people? Now you got a whole new set of people that are running that country, overnight.
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Just some reference to the Yalta Conference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference

The Yalta Conference, sometimes called the Crimea Conference and codenamed the Argonaut Conference, was the February 4–11, 1945 wartime meeting of the heads of government of the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union—President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and General Secretary Joseph Stalin, respectively—for the purpose of discussing Europe's postwar reorganization. Mainly, it was intended to discuss the re-establishment of the nations of war-torn Europe.

The conference convened in the Livadia Palace near Yalta, the Crimea. It was the second of three wartime conferences among the Big Three (Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin). It had been preceded by the Tehran Conference in 1943, and it was followed by the Potsdam Conference which was attended by Harry S. Truman in place of the late Roosevelt; and Clement Attlee who attended in place of Churchill.

Poland was the first item on the Soviet agenda. Stalin stated that "[f]or the Soviet government, the question of Poland was one of honor" and security because Poland had served as a historical corridor for forces attempting to invade Russia.[6] In addition, Stalin stated regarding history that "because the Russians had greatly sinned against Poland", "the Soviet government was trying to atone for those sins."[6] Stalin concluded that "Poland must be strong" and that "the Soviet Union is interested in the creation of a mighty, free and independent Poland." Accordingly, Stalin stipulated that Polish government-in-exile demands were not negotiable: the Soviet Union would keep the territory of eastern Poland they had already annexed in 1939, and Poland was to be compensated for that by extending its Western borders at the expense of Germany. Comporting with his prior statement, Stalin promised free elections in Poland despite the Soviet sponsored provisional government recently installed by him in Polish territories occupied by the Red Army.
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So the question is who is going to step in to replace these people? Now you got a whole new set of people that are running that country, overnight.

it is called "decapitation Strategy" used by imperialist regimes for thousands of years
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Poland’s central bank’s Slawomir Skrzypek & P.M. Donald Tusk against joining the Euro!
http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/2009/02/05/polands-central-banks-slawomir-skrzypek-pm-donald-tusk-against-joining-the-euro
By Amarendra Bhushan for CEOWORLD Magazine Updated:February 5, 2009


Since the beginning of the financial crisis, the zloty has lost about one-third of its value against stable currencies. This has created a painful situation not only for the Polish budget, but also for thousands of families who have taken out credit in euro or Swiss francs to buy apartments. If someone bought an apartment last year for 300,000 zloty (64,500 euro) with credit in Swiss francs, the real price that they are paying now is 425,000 zloty (91,300 euro), even with lowered interest rates. As such, this pushing back the entrance date for entering the euro zone is just hurting Poland more – the country should incorporate a stable currency as soon as possible, not the ‘wild and exotic’ zloty.

Europe should be really interested in Poland’s particular example and that the UK and other would like to consult with Polish economists.

Arguing against the euro because it deprives national states of “policy instruments” (meddling with short-term interest rates, and other such social-engineering games) is like arguing against hunting because it prevents animals from killing people. The only sensible economic argument against the euro is that is that it arbitrarily restrains individual choices. Individual preferences is what economics is about.

Currencies across Eastern Europe tumbled, Romania cut interest rates and a ratings agency warned of risks facing Hungary on Wednesday as the impact of global recession intensified in the region.  Poland, the European Union’s largest former communist member, ruled out intervening to rescue its plunging currency for fear of squandering precious foreign exchange reserves at a time of economic crisis.

The Polish zloty has recorded a dramatic drop in relation to the main currencies and is nearing its lowest rate since 2004. It now stands at around 4.56 in respect of the euro, 3.54 to the US dollar and 3.10 to the Swiss franc. The drop is being caused by more reluctance on the part of investors to bring capital to Poland and according to some analysts, part of the problem might be caused by speculation.

Meanwhile head of Poland’s central bank Sławomir Skrzypek said that the sinking zloty was also the result of the perception that this was a rising market; The second cause are the fears of investors on euro and dollar markets, so they withdraw capital among others from Poland. There is also less money coming in from our emigrants in Britain and Ireland, because of the difficulties with employment there. And there is the weakening export, said the Central Bank chief.

Whereas Poland’s central bank’s president Slawomir Skrzypek reiterated Thursday that there’s no need to intervene on the foreign exchange market to stop the zloty’s slide. “any intervention talk or discussion about what zloty level would trigger central bank intervention “would weaken the zloty even further. the central bank has all the necessary tools to defend the zloty if and when needed, such as foreign currency reserves. under current conditions, joining the Exchange Rate Mechanism ERM2 “would encourage more speculation on the zloty. ERM2 “would trigger constant interventions on the forex market.”

“I don’t think that euro adoption is a cure for everything” Skrzypek said. In January, the central bank’s Monetary Policy Council cut key rates by 75 basis points, to 4.25%.

The Polish government aims to adopt the euro in 2012. That would mean it has to be euro-ready in 2011 and has to join the EMR2 mechanism by the mid-2009. In order to meet the 2012 euro target date Poland must enter the eurozone’s required Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERMII) in the first half of 2009.

In another news Poland’s Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said the country’s planned adoption of the Euro will depend on the stabilisation of international finance markets. The country had been due to join the ERM this half year in preparation for full eurozone membership in 2012. Candidate countries must keep their currencies within the a 15% plus or minus trading range of the euro for two years before they can join the eurozone.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Wednesday said his government could delay its 2012 target for the adoption of the euro currency should the global financial crisis pose risks to the Polish currency or financial system.
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MESSAGE TO THE REBELLION: IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE EURO, WE WILL DECAPITATE YOU
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4.25% interest rates?

we have had 0% for a while.

too much anti-keynesian economics going on over there!
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expect a new "pro-euro" regime to take over!
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MESSAGE TO THE REBELLION: IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE EURO, WE WILL DECAPITATE YOU

And they did.

Good point Sane.
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I think its a little early to completely exonerate the Russians just yet.  Besides they are going to exonerate themselves iminently.

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Slawomir Skrzypek: Neutralising zero credit growth
http://www.ft.com/reports/poland-democracy
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Published: June 3 2009 19:22 | Last updated: June 3 2009 19:22

Interview with Slawomir Skrzypek, governor of the National Bank of Poland
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He gave a fricking presentation on the adoption of the euro...

A Case for Rapid Euro Adoption
http://www.oenb.at/de/img/skrzypek_091102_tcm14-143577.pdf
Sławomir Skrzypek
The Governor of the National Bank of Poland

CONCLUSION:

In the case of rapid euro adoption we can experience “a short-term gain and a long-term pain”.
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I think its a little early to completely exonerate the Russians just yet.  Besides they are going to exonerate themselves iminently.

they have two options: expose the truth or comply with NWO to hide the truth. my guess is that they will get paid off with food/energy/precious metals to STFU.
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BTW how is the euro market doing on the news of a possible pro-euro polish regime being initiated?
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What about the twin brother?

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Poland diffused every external threat to their currency in lightspeed, countering every attempt to pump and dump them. They were a clear and present threat to worldwide financial depression. Looks like illuminati banksters felt, they had to be stopped!

This was the move that sealed their fate:


UPDATE 2-Poland intervenes to curb zloty, sets precedent
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63816K20100409?type=marketsNews
Fri Apr 9, 2010 10:32am EDT
By Marcin Goettig and Dagmara Leszkowicz

* Central bank in first zloty intervention since 2000 float
* Govt says it fully supports move, shares c.bank concern
* Zloty falls 0.5 pct, but analysts say uptrend could resume

WARSAW, April 9 (Reuters) - Poland's central bank sold zlotys on Friday, surprising markets with its first intervention since introducing a free float in 2000 as it sought to temper the surging currency's impact on exports and the wider economy.

The central bank said in a statement it had bought "some currencies" on the market around Friday. It gave no other details, but a Warsaw-based dealer said he believed the central bank bought about 40-50 million euros for zlotys.

The action, which the government said it backed fully, drove the zloty down 0.5 percent against the euro, though economists said the currency might strengthen again.

The European Union's biggest ex-communist member, Poland is the only country in the bloc to have avoided recession last year and currency investors have taken note.

Before Friday's move, the zloty had gained 6 percent against the euro in the year so far and was near a 16-month high.

"This is a battle with our own success because the zloty's rise in the last three months is a result of the large demand for Polish bonds from abroad, as well as privatisation inflows," said Rafal Benecki, senior economist at ING Bank.

The country's robust growth prospects stand in stark contrast to a number of European countries, notably peripherals such as Greece or Spain.

Poland's debt levels are also well below the EU average, making Polish debt attractive to investors.


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"This is definitely a beneficial move. It's a factor that the market needs to take into account in its analysis. We fully agree with the central bank's policy on that matter," Deputy Finance Minister Dominik Radziwill told Reuters by telephone.

He said the ministry shared the central bank's concern over the zloty's strength.

At 1305 GMT, the zloty was at 3.8720/50 per euro, sharply weaker than 3.8340 earlier on Friday.

The currency's strength has prompted concern that Poland could pay an economic price as zloty gains have made exports less competitive.

But some analysts doubt the central bank will be able to halt the zloty's rise.

"We remain confident in the medium-term uptrend in the zloty," said Koon Chow, FX strategist at Barclays Capital. "We think the central bank wants to slow the pace of zloty appreciation so as not to imperil the cautious cyclical recovery."

Chow said this kind of strategy was employed in other emerging market economies and there were good reasons for authorities not to try to weaken the currency too much either.

A bout of currency weakness could stoke inflation and affect Poland's external debt position.

(Additional reporting by Kuba Jaworowksi and Pawel Sobczak, writing by Karolina Slowikowska; editing by John Stonestreet)
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What about the twin brother?

wait, is this some plot for the movie HITMAN or is there really a twin?
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Many of Poland's political and military elite appear to have lost their lives in the accident, including Poland’s the last president in exile Ryszard Kaczorowski, former defence minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski, head of the Presidential Chancellery Wladyslaw Stasiak, presidential spokesman Pawel Wypych, Secretary of State Mariusz Handzlik, head of the Law and Justice party in parliament Przemyslaw Gosiewski, MP Zbigniew Wassermann and Bishop Tadeusz Płoski.

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Yes, the President has/had a twin brother, quite alive, the Prime Minister.  They starred in a movie together as children.  Both were members of the "Law and  Justice" Party.

Undoubtedly, people will rally behind the brother.

Relations between Russia and Poland will likely sour.

Everything else, I don't know.

The Russians will never believe they were responsible for Katyn.  They were.

The Poles will likely never forgive them.  For this, neither, unless they truly were completely innocent, but I would say all bets are off, just yet.

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This article should send shivers down your spine...

10 DAYS AGO!





Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS) has announced that it will be seeking to open a branch in Warsaw, as the Polish government prepares to offer record share offerings this year, according to company Spokeswoman Monika Schaller in a statement on Friday.

Credit Suisse Group of Zurich announced in January that it would be opening a brokerage in Warsaw this year after closing its Warsaw-based stock-dealing business in 2003.

“The government has a very ambitious plan to make Warsaw a financial hub for the region and expects foreign banks to establish a local presence,” Marek Gul, who heads Credit Suisse’s business in Warsaw, said in an interview. “Investment banks that aren’t yet here want to get in.”

Poland’s national government plans to sell ownership stakes in its energy, insurance, chemical and phone companies to raise $10 billion to finance the company’s widening budget deficit.

Companies such as Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse stand to make significant revenue from advisory work related to the offerings.

Poland was the only country in the European Union to avoid a recession during the financial crisis. The Warsaw Stock Exchange has also seen a tripling in the total value of listed companies since 2003.
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According to Poland’s constitution, on the death of a president which in office, the second highest ranking politician takes over as head of state, in this case this is Speaker of Parliament Bronislaw Komorowski. Poland’s public television station TVP is reporting that on the death of Poland’s head of state, a date for presidential elections must be called within two weeks and take place no later than 60 days.

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According to Poland’s constitution, on the death of a president which in office, the second highest ranking politician takes over as head of state, in this case this is Speaker of Parliament Bronislaw Komorowski. Poland’s public television station TVP is reporting that on the death of Poland’s head of state, a date for presidential elections must be called within two weeks and take place no later than 60 days.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaros%C5%82aw_Kaczy%C5%84ski

Jaroslaw Kaczynkski, former Prime Minister, twin brother of now-dead Polish president.

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The ageing Tupolev Tu-154, which crashed Saturday morning in western Russia killing President Lech Kaczynski and many others had recently undergone thorough mechanical overhaul, reports Polish Radio.

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Yes, the President has/had a twin brother, quite alive, the Prime Minister.  They starred in a movie together as children.  Both were members of the "Law and  Justice" Party.

Undoubtedly, people will rally behind the brother.

Relations between Russia and Poland will likely sour.

Everything else, I don't know.

The Russians will never believe they were responsible for Katyn.  They were.

The Poles will likely never forgive them.  For this, neither, unless they truly were completely innocent, but I would say all bets are off, just yet.

Katyn is a side issue, Poland was a clear and present threat to global recession and one world currency.

EVERYBODY LOST IN WWII, RUSSIA LOST OVER 10 MILLION CIVILIANS SECOND ONLY TO CHINA!

DRESDEN LOST 800,000 IN 24 HOURS! THIS IS NOT ABOUT WWII! CIA OPENLY PROVOKES THESE OLD WOUNDS FOR MANIPULATING MID TO LOW LEVEL IRRATIONAL BEUROCRATS. PUTIN AND THE POLISH ELITE ARE/WERE NOT IRRATIONAL MID LEVEL BEUROCRATS!

Poland was openly denying the possibility of a full bankster takeover of all of Europe.
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The ageing Tupolev Tu-154, which crashed Saturday morning in western Russia killing President Lech Kaczynski and many others had recently undergone thorough mechanical overhaul, reports Polish Radio.

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Did they add some Ptech hardware?
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More on Goldman Sachs recent decision to infiltrate Poland 2 weeks ago:
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/goldman-seeks-piece-of-10-billion-polish-pie/
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Russian media carried claims that the plane's crew were at fault for the crash.

"The pilot was advised to land in Minsk, but decided to land in Smolensk," said Andrei Yevseyenkov, a Smolensk regional government spokesman .


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Check out this from the Prison Planet Index.  It mentions the leaders of Poland, and of course Brzezenski and his meddling with the borders of Russia.  Don't forget the proposed missile shields.  ALSO DON'T FORGET THAT BRZEZINSKI WAS BORN IN WARSAW, POLAND.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94752.0;wap2

THE OBAMA DECEPTION HITS POLISH MEDIA,  PRESIDENCY

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I used Google translate.. Heres the link

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnews%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26ct2%3Dus%252F0_0_s_0_0_t%26usg%3DAFQjCNHRVXcciT-Qz9igXRee7uDE73v7Dw%26cid%3D0%26ei%3DCenGSdDiDoaaMr7jvdIC%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwiadomosci.onet.pl%252F1938157%252C12%252Cbracia_kaczynscy_okresleni_jako_agenci_i_faszystowscy_dziwacy%252Citem.html&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

Here Original Link in polish
http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/1938157,12,bracia_kaczynscy_okresleni_jako_agenci_i_faszystowscy_dziwacy,item.html









"Brothers Kaczynski referred to as "agents" and "Fascist dziwacy"
Bracia Kaczyńscy określeni jako "agenci" i "faszystowscy dziwacy

Przemysław Henzel/Onet.pl/20.03.2009 16:30


In an address by Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski have died sharp words - they were, along with several other politicians from Central and Eastern Europe, referred to as "fascist dziwaków" and "agents of the International Monetary Fund and NATO." Opinię taką wyraził amerykański historyk i dziennikarz Webster Tarpley w filmie dokumentalnym "The Obama Deception". Expressed the opinion that the American journalist and historian Webster Tarpley in the film documentary "The Obama Deception."

 "The Obama Deception" is the latest controversial film American journalist Alex Jones, whose axis is an attempt to demonstrate that the United States has not ruled the president, but acting under the disguise "oligarchy" and Barack Obama is not only a puppet in the hands of military-industrial complex, but beguiler zwodzący the empty promises of the Americans, of which there is no intention to discharge.

The film appears in a number of people who share with their viewers think about the United States and its internal and foreign policies, on the screen, you can see, among others byłego gubernatora stanu Minnesota Jessego Venturę, rappera-komentatora politycznego KRS-One czy właśnie Webstera Tarpleya. the state of Minnesota, former Governor Jesse Ventura, a political commentator-rapper KRS-One and the Webster Tarpley.

In the opinion of the film director, and Tarpley, installing anti-missile shield in Eastern Europe used tactics "okrążania" Russia.
Dowodem na to ma być fakt,że w administracji Obamy funkcję sekretarza obrony sprawuje mianowany jeszcze przez Busha gen. Robert Gates. The proof of this is the fact that the administration function Obamy secretary of defense has yet by the Bush appointed Gen. Robert Gates.


 Webster Tarpley. - The result of policies based on continuous "mixing" next to the border of Russia, along with "faszystowskimi dziwakami (English fascist creeps)", "agents" of the International Monetary Fund and NATO, such as in Ukraine, Yushchenko, Saakashvili of Georgia, or, or you bliźniacy Kaczynski of Poland or this jumble of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, which means that you are associated with these "gangsterami" who may decide to call the war, may be an outbreak of the conflict, which certainly will become the third world war - evaluate Webster Tarpley.

This is even worse from a policy of neo-conservatives from Bush and Cheney policy, because they never Move as far as Brzezinski, Soros other people who "manage" Obama - he adds. Kontrowersyjne słowa padają w 47. Contentious words fall in 47 minucie filmu. minute film.

Tarpley controversial historian and journalist, famous for its left-wing beliefs and the belief in conspiracy theories, which in his opinion, discover the truth about the true nature of world politics.

(NWO). According to him, for the attacks of 11 September 2001, is facing U.S. military complex and the CIA, is the policy of the U.S. Wall Street and big corporations, and the aim is to create a Washington Anglo-American New World Order (NWO).


Portal Onet.pl was contacted by the Chancellery of the President on the controversial words that fall on the head of state. Kancelaria poinformowała jednak, że nie zapadła jeszcze decyzja, czy słowa, które padły na temat prezydenta RP w filmie, zostaną przez nią skomentowane. However, the law firm advised that it was not yet decide whether the words that have died on the president of Poland in the film, that it would react. Czekamy na odpowiedź Kancelarii. We wait for a response from the Registry.

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I'm from my Poland and, after reading some of the comments to that news post, all I have to say is: my country is full of idiots...  :'(

Basically, almost everyone was babbling how Tarpley was an evil communist, which is ludicrous.

Although that website is part of the mainstream media controlled by the former communists, and fortunately there is a lot of alternative media, also, in Poland.

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Can you possibly write me a full and clear translation of this article? I would love to write a story about this.

Many thanks.

Paul.

Outer Haven:
I've done it. Excuse me for my grammar and stylistic errors!

Kaczyński twins labeled as "agents" and "fascist creeps"

Some strong words have been directed at Lech and Jarosław Kaczyński -- they have been, along with several others politicians from mid-eastern Europe, described as "fascist creeps" and "agents of IMF and NATO". This is the opinion of the American historian and journalist Webster Tarpley, expressed in the documentary titled "The Obama Deception".

"The Obama Deception" is the latest film of the controversial American journalist Alex Jones, and its main point is the attempt to establish that the United States is not run by the President, but by a secretive "oligarchy", and that Barack Obama is not merely a puppet of the Military-Industrial complex, but also a crook that deceives the American people with his empty promises, of which he has no intention to fulfil.

Several guests make an appearance in the film, and they share their views on the United States and its domestic and foreign policies; you can see, among others, former governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura, rapper-political commentator KRS-One, as well as Webster Tarpley himself.

The film implies that Barack Obama will be continuing the anti-missile system program, the elements of which would be placed in Poland and in the Chech Republic. In the film's director's opinion -- as well as Tarpley's own -- the purpose of the installment of the anti-missile system in mid-eastern Europe is to "encircle" Russia. A supposed proof of this is the fact that in the Obama administration the position of the defense secretary remains to be held by general Robert Gates, who has been appointed already by Bush.

The result of a policy, that subsists in continued "meddling" around Russia's borders, along with "fascists creeps", "agents" of IMF and NATO, like Yuschenko from Ukraine, Saakashvili from Georgia, those Kaczyński twins from Poland, or that whole band from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, that means that you are associated with these "gangsters" that might prove decisive in starting a war, could be the break of a conflict that would certainly lead into world war three - analyses Tarpley.

This is worse than the neocons. Bush and Cheney would have never gone as far as Brzeziński, Soros and others who are "managing" Obama - he adds. The controversial words are spoken 46 minutes into the film.

Tarpley is a controversial historian and journalist who is famous for his left wing views and for advocating conspiracy theories, which in his opinion uncover the true nature of global politics. According to him, the attacks of September 11th, 2001 were orchestrated by the Military-Industrial complex and the CIA; the policy of USA is shaped by Wall Street and big corporations, and the goal of Washington is to create an Anglo-American New World Order (NWO).

The website Onet.pl has contacted the presidential office regarding those controversial words, that were spoken of the head of the country. The office, however, has told us that there has not yet been made a decision as for wether or not the words regarding the president of Poland will be commented by it. We are waiting for a reply.

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Poland also is a clear and present danger to the global warming fraud. They are almost 100% dependent  on coal and Rothschild's greenpeace has been trying to get green nazis to infiltrate for years:



Polish coal plant tops EU's "dirty thirty" list
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5324DR20090403
Michael Szabo
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Fri Apr 3, 2009 11:52am EDT

 

Greenpeace activists paint a slogan reading ''Stop CO2'' on the one of the smoke stacks at the Belchatow power plant in Rogowiec near Belchatow, about 177 km (110 miles) from Warsaw July 3, 2007.

LONDON (Reuters) - Poland is home once again to Europe's dirtiest power plant, but German utilities still owned 11 of the 30 most polluting facilities in the European Union in 2008, preliminary EU data showed.

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Poland's Belchatow coal plant, run by state-owned utility BOT Elektrownia, spewed out the most climate-warming carbon dioxide (CO2) of any EU installation last year, pumping the equivalent of 30.9 million metric tons into the atmosphere.

This amount, comparable to the total greenhouse gas emissions of Croatia, was nine percent more than the plant emitted in 2007 and bucked a trend which saw overall EU industrial emissions drop last year.

The "dirty thirty," a term first coined by green group WWF in 2005, belched some 387.5 million metric tons of CO2 in 2008, down 2.2 percent from 2007.

Analysts said emissions from all EU heavy industry fell by around 4-5 percent last year due to lower industrial production caused the global economic downturn and power plants switching to burning natural gas over more carbon-intensive coal.

The top emitter in 2007 -- Kraftwerk Niederaussem, owned by Germany's RWE -- saw its emissions drop by 20 percent to 24.9 million, the largest drop in the group but not enough to keep it out of second place.

RWE owns 4 of the top 7 polluting plants.

The 11 dirtiest German facilities emitted 165.9 million metric tons of CO2 last year, down 3.9 percent from 172.7 million metric tons in 2007.

Analysts said the drop in German industrial emissions was largely due to a switch by utilities to burning bituminous coal from more carbon-intensive lignite, also knows as brown coal.

Britain's top five polluters, including the dirty thirty's fourth-ranked Drax power station, saw their total emissions rise by 2.6 percent to 60.1 million metric tons.

The British government last week said overall UK emissions fell by 2 percent in 2008.

The thirty's largest net gain also came from Poland's Belchatow, up 2.5 million metric tons in 2008, while the largest percentage rise, 13.5 percent, occurred at German steelmaker ThyssenKrupp's plant in Duisburg.

The preliminary data, a first glimpse into EU industrial emissions for 2008, is widely watched by participants in the EU's emissions trading scheme, the 27-nation bloc's flagship weapon in its battle against climate change.

Scientists warn that rising atmospheric CO2 levels will cause global temperatures to increase, which in turn could trigger widespread disease, famine, flooding and drought.

The $90 billion emissions trading scheme caps EU industrial CO2 emissions, then gives a corresponding number of permits to participants. Those companies that seek to emit over their quota must buy permits from those who have made emissions cuts.

Last year marked the first year that the European Commission avoided handing out an excess of emissions permits to industry.
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Check out this from the Prison Planet Index.  It mentions the leaders of Poland, and of course Brzezenski and his meddling with the borders of Russia.  Don't forget the proposed missile shields.  ALSO DON'T FORGET THAT BRZEZINSKI WAS BORN IN WARSAW, POLAND.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=94752.0;wap2

THE OBAMA DECEPTION HITS POLISH MEDIA,  PRESIDENCY

Eckhart Tolle:
I used Google translate.. Heres the link


I am not sure about the president (UPDATE: I cannot find any supporting info on them being CFR/Trilateral, can anyone else?), but the head of the central bank was 100% against one world currency and against short term reactions to monetary policy. because of him Poland was the only country to avoid the planned global recession. Poland was/is the greatest threat to illuminazi banksters attempted coup of all of europe.

Also the former pres and many other top poles were no fan of Obama and the fake hope:

Obama Peace Prize: “Who, What? So Fast?”
http://blogs.wsj.com/new-europe/2009/10/09/lech-walesa-on-obama-peace-prize-who-what-so-fast/tab/article/
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Missile Shield no longer needed in Poland ?

Seems the Polish President is more trouble than he is worth, and a decision has been taken that on balance its better to remove the Polish President - after completing and signing SALT Treaty.

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Missile Shield no longer needed in Poland ?

Seems the Polish President is more trouble than he is worth, and a decision has been taken that on balance its better to remove the Polish President - after completing SALT Treaty.


like JFK and Lincoln, it was the monetary policy and elimination of debt slavery that did in these players.
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like JFK and Lincoln, it was the monetary policy and elimination of debt slavery that did in these players.

I agree that the ultimate factor that motivates our evil masters is allways the money . .
because money is power.


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This could have been a new "Hitler-Stalin" pact.

Also, some insight into neutralizing any possible catholic church blowback by planned targeting of Ratzinger (benedict arnold of the church).



Twin Pillars of Populism
The Kaczynski Twins Are Taking Poland by Storm

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,378418,00.html
By Susanne Amann in Warsaw 10/06/2005

The two vocal populists are almost impossible to tell apart, but Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski are rocketing to the top of Poland's political establishment. Soon, both the prime minister's office as well as the presidency may be in their hands. And they have a plan for what to do with their power.
DPA

Meet the Kaczynski brothers.

All of Poland knows the two small, roundish -- and virtually identical -- men. For weeks, even months, they have been smiling down from campaign posters and parading through the nation's political talk shows. Yet for all their media presence, one question occupies most of the electorate: How does one tell these two apart? After all, Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski are identical twins -- and the only differences are a tiny birthmark on one of their noses and the slightly unkempt hair of the other.

The two brothers have become shooting stars in Polish politics. They have both managed to cut through the political apathy of the population and have neatly divided it into enthusiastic devotees or vehement detractors. The two brothers, as it turns out, are not much for middle-of-the-road vapidity. On the contrary. The two are populists -- and they peddle their Catholic-nationalist worldview energetically and with little consideration for their political opponents.

And they are wildly successful. On Sept. 25, the party they both lead, the Law and Order Party (PiS), won the country's parliamentary elections meaning Poland's next prime minister will come from their ranks. This Sunday, the Poles go to the polls again -- this time to cast their ballots for the position of president. Lech Kaczynski, current mayor of Warsaw, is one of the leading candidates. Their successes are being viewed with some trepidation by their neighbors.

Modern day Hitler-Stalin pact

Recently, for example, the two of them attacked a planned natural gas pipeline agreed to by German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Russian President Vladimir Putin by comparing it with the 1939 Hitler-Stalin pact, which resulted in the partition of Poland. Lech, who is currently the mayor of Warsaw, also made headlines early this year by banning the gay and lesbian parade in Poland's capital. He said the event was damaging to Polish youth.

Mostly, though, the brothers' are characterized by a deep mistrust of Russia and Germany. They were born in 1949 in the rubble of an almost completely destroyed Warsaw. They grew up with the results of the Nazi occupation and under the subsequent hegemony of the Soviet Union. Even now, they are still warning of the danger of allowing Germany too great an influence in the European Union. They are also deeply mistrustful of that group of Germans expelled from Poland following World War II, suspecting them of wanting to someday retake parts of western Poland. Indeed, the two have already threatened that Germany should be made to pay reparations to Poland for World War II damage. For Warsaw alone, Lech has calculated a sum between $30 and 40 billion.

REUTERS

Here's Jaroslaw, who led his Law and Order Party to victors in Sept. parliamentary elections.

The brothers, both trained in law, have been politically active since they went to university together. They were part of the underground and belonged to the Workers' Defense Committee (KOR), a group of academics where many of the Solidarity intellectuals got their start. In 1980, in fact, they were in Gdansk for the founding of Solidarity. That only Lech Kaczynski did a stint in prison in 1981 was pure luck: The police thought that the existence of a second Kaczynski with the same birth date as the first was a typo.


It didn't take long for the two -- known as the "ducks" for a last name that recalls the Polish word for "duck", if not for their physical stature -- to become part of Lech Walesa's inner circle. Following the fall of the communist government in 1989, they both took high positions in the new government, but they quickly butted heads with Walesa. He refused their demand to rigorously cleanse the secret service and military of left-over cadres.

Getting rid of the communists

Which is one reason for their grandiose comeback. Current candidate for president Lech Kaczynski discovered -- as justice minister under former Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek and then as mayor of Warsaw -- just how popular the fight against corruption and lawlessness is among Poles. Even now, many secret service and army members who were active under the communist regime are still in their old positions. Communist structures are still intact, and corruption and cronyism are part of the day-to-day.

REUTERS

And here's Lech, mayor of Warsaw and a candidate for president in Sunday's elections.

And that, if the Kaczynski brothers get their way, will all change. They want to see a more Catholic and more traditional Poland protected by increased presidential authority and restrictions on former communists holding public office. Lech even wants to see much of his political crusade -- including laws infringing on the rights of homosexuals and other minorities -- written into the country's constitution. The twins want to see an unconditional national Catholicism.

It is a development that many analysts connect with the recent death of the Polish Pope John Paul II. The long, painful decline of the pope was accompanied by a new wave of spirituality and a reawakened interest in Catholicism -- especially among younger Poles. And the guidelines being followed by the Kaczynski brothers are also those of the deceased pope: anti-abortion, a traditional role for women and a strong emphasis on community. Of course, such a platform hasn't hindered Lech -- as mayor of Warsaw -- to call for all the homeless in the Polish capital to be resettled in container slums on the edge of the city so they no longer clutter up the center. Hardly a charitable position.

A dash of nationalism with a helping of Euro-skepticism

The two want nothing less than a "Fourth Republic," a new Poland -- a vision reflected in the name of their Law and Order Party. With its mixture of nationalism, populism and Euro-skepticism, the party was already wildly successful in the 2002 local elections. Lech Kaczynski was voted in to the Warsaw city hall with a large majority and -- on Sept. 25 -- the party came out tops in the parliamentary elections with 27 percent of the vote. Coalition negotiations with the liberal Civic Platform (PO) -- which took 24 percent of the vote -- are ongoing.

Jaroslaw's decision to forgo the office of prime minister in favor of the less-well-known Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz surprised many observers, though. It is assumed that the move is intended to improve his brother's chances of winning Sunday's presidential elections. He would then -- with both the prime minister and president coming from his party -- pull the strings in the background. Both he and his brother have said they don't plan on having both offices in their family at the same time.

It's a tactic that seems to be working. For weeks, the PO candidate Donald Tusk has been leading Lech in the Poles by as much as 10 percentage points. Now, that lead has shrunk to just 37 percent for Tusk against 33 percent for Lech. And even though coalition talks between the PO and his own Law and Order Party are continuing, Lech misses no opportunity to portray Tusk as a heartless fiscal liberal and himself as the voice of social justice.

Jaroslaw Kaczynski has affirmed that -- even should his brother lose on Sunday -- he will stay in the background and allow Marcinkiewicz to become prime minister. Many Poles, though, don't believe him. They assume that a final decision as to who will be Poland's next prime minister will only come after the presidential election.

And with both of them potentially leading Poland, telling them apart may be that much more important. Here's another difference between the two: Lech is married and has a daughter. Jaroslaw, on the other hand, still lives at home with his mother and his cats.
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for reference on the last "hitler-stalin pact", see soviet story.
http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/28771192
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didn't the US puppet and the Russian puppet just meet?


President Obama, Russian President Medvedev sign START treaty to reduce nuclear weapons
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/04/08/2010-04-08_president_obama_russian_president_medvedev_sign_nuke_treaty.html
BY Michael Mcauliff  DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Thursday, April 8th 2010, 7:33 AM


New pact against rebellious nations against Brzezinski's planned Cold War II?




"Dude, I am serious, the illuminati hate those twins"
"No way, Putin hates them too"

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