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You think that a 17 year old girl held against her will and doped up on a lethal cocktail of pharmaceuticals....

Did not a young boy wanted to Blow Up a Airplane some Months Back.


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The evidence is overwhelming, should we stop exposing the truth and cower to "the narrative" yet again?



"Assassination of Russia"
False flag Government sponsored terrorism Russian style

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8712664469489507026
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Russian FSB are caught planting bombs in buildings to blame on the Chechens. http://eng.terror99.ru/publications/056.htm A French Documentary Alleges Kremlin Involvement in Russia's 1999 Apartment Bombings BY YURI ZARAKHOVICH/MOSCOW Friday, Apr. 19, 2002. Most Russians are unlikely to see The Attempt on Russia, a French documentary shot with the help of tycoon Boris Berezovsky, now self-exiled to London. The film alleges involvement of Russian secret services in the Moscow and the Volgodonsk apartment bombings in the fall of1999. The terrorist attacks claimed 247 lives and paved the way for a new Chechen war that helped install Vladimir Putin as Russian President. While denying the claim, the Kremlin made sure that Russian TV would not show the footage, screened by human rights groups to limited audiences. Still, such allegations have been the talk of the country ever since the tragedy. This week, VTSIOM (the Public Opinion Studies Center) released its polls on public reaction to them. The results show that 38% of those polled firmly deny that Russian secret servihuch an involvement should not be ruled out; and 19% are undecided. The polls hardly bode well for Putin. http://eng.terror99.ru/explosions/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Apartment_Bombings
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Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany.

That is understood.

But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.

That is easy.

All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
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Did not a young boy wanted to Blow Up a Airplane some Months Back.



EXCELLENT COMPARISON!

It looks like a similar type patsy group. It is now a bona fide fact that the drugged up son of an elite banker underwear patsy was pushed onto the plane by a US intelligence agency

AS CONFIRMED BY EYEWITNESSES (MANY).

AS CONFIRMED BY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE PATRICK KENNEDY.

AND THEN RECONFIRMED BY STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN P.J. CROWLEY.

AND THEN RE-RECONFIRMED BY CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS.

Thanks for pointing out this key comparison, it helps expose the true illuminazi terrorists!



State Department official:
IC Intel guys wanted underwear bomber to come to the U.S.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/01/11/state_department_official_ic_intel_guys_wanted_underwear_bomber_to_come_to_the_us
Posted By Josh Rogin  Monday, January 11, 2010 - 9:50 PM

The State Department has a lot of explanations for why it didn't matter that its Visas Viper cable to the National Counterterrorism Center about underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab didn't mention that he had a visa.

But this one takes the cake. In an overlooked interview on NPR last week, Under Secretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy suggested that maybe the intelligence community sometimes lets suspected terrorists come to the country on purpose.

"There are cases that arise where the law enforcement or intelligence communities actually want the person to come to the United States," Kennedy told NPR's Steve Inskeep. "They might like to arrest them. They might like to follow them."

Really? The Cable asked the State Department spokesman if this was an official position or just Kennedy's personal view of how the intelligence community works, but there was no response.

President Obama has reportedly said that he doesn't want to see any more "finger-pointing" by federal agencies, but Kennedy went on in the interview to continue to defend the State Department's handling of the case, saying that once the cable was sent to the NCTC, it was up to counterterrorism officials there to make the next move and none was made.

Kennedy did acknowledge that nobody in the embassy checked to see if Abdulmutallab had a visa until the day of the bombing, but hey, that wasn't the policy. He also didn't say anything about the misspelling of Abdulmutallab's name, but apparently that didn't matter either, according to State.

UPDATE: State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley stands by Kennedy's comments:

"Even where an individual may have some association with terrorism, that doesn't automatocally mean that a visa should or will be revoked. There may be times when law enforcement may want to allow someone to travel so he can be watched."

"Our intent is not only to take down individuals who are involved with terrorism but to also take down the larger networks in which they operate."  



CIA shielded Flight 253 "underwear" bomber amid media blackout
Congressional hearing reveals US intelligence agencies shielded Flight 253 bomber

http://open.salon.com/blog/gordon_wagner/2010/02/03/cia_shielded_flight_253_underwear_bomber
By Alex Lantier 3 February 2010

A January 27 hearing of the House Committee on Homeland Security established that US intelligence agencies stopped the State Department from revoking the US visa of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. The Nigerian student, whom US officials suspected of being affiliated with the Yemeni terrorist group Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, attempted to set off a bomb on Northwest Flight 253 into Detroit on Christmas Day. Revocation of Abdulmutallab’s visa would have prevented him from boarding the airplane.

The hearing was reported in a brief article posted January 27 on the web site of the Detroit News, headlined, “Terror Suspect Kept Visa to Avoid Tipping Off Larger Investigation.”

The revelation that US intelligence agencies made a deliberate decision to allow Abdulmutallab to board the commercial flight, without any special airport screening, has been buried in the media. As of this writing, nearly a week after the hearing, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times have published no articles on the subject. Nor have the broadcast or cable media reported on it.

This is despite—or perhaps more accurately, because of—the fact that this information exposes the official government story of the near-disaster to be a lie. President Obama, who has joined with top US intelligence, FBI and Homeland Security officials to insist that Abdulmutallab was inadvertently allowed to board the plane carrying explosives because of a failure to “connect the dots,” has from the start been deceiving the American people.

The official line strained credulity from the outset, given reports of multiple advance warnings that the Nigerian student was linked to terrorists in Yemen who were planning attacks on the US.

As was widely reported within hours of the failed bombing attempt, Abdulmutallab’s father—a former Nigerian government minister and prominent banker—went to the US embassy in Abuja in November to warn that his son was involved with radical Islamists in Yemen and had broken off contact with his family. The family said they had given US officials extensive information about their son in the expectation that they would “find and return him home.”

In his prepared statement to the House Committee on Homeland Security on January 27, State Department Under-Secretary for Management Patrick Kennedy said: “In the case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, on the day following his father’s November 19 visit to the Embassy, we sent a cable to the Washington intelligence and law enforcement community through proper channels (the Visas Viper system) that ‘Information at post suggests [Farouk] may be involved in Yemeni-based extremists.’”

Kennedy confirmed that all US intelligence agencies received warnings that Abdulmutallab was training with terrorists in Yemen. He noted that the initial diplomatic cable from Abuja misspelled Abdulmutallab’s name. However, Kennedy continued, “At the same time, the Consular Section entered Abdulmutallab into the Consular Lookout and Support System database known as CLASS… The CLASS entry resulted in a lookout using the correct spelling that was shared automatically with the primary lookout system used by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and accessible to other agencies.”

Under questioning by the committee chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, Kennedy explained why the State Department might not revoke the US visa of a suspected terrorist: “We will revoke the visa of any individual who is a threat to the United States, but we do take one preliminary step. We ask our law enforcement and intelligence community partners, ‘Do you have eyes on this person and do you want us to let this person proceed under your surveillance so that you may potentially break a larger plot?’”

He added: “And one of the members [of the intelligence community]—and we’d be glad to give you that out of [open session]—in private—said, ‘Please, do not revoke this visa. We have eyes on this person. We are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying to roll up an entire network, not just stop one person.’”

Under questioning by Rep. Dan Lungren, Kennedy confirmed that Abdulmutallab’s case was one in which US intelligence officials had interceded to block a visa revocation.

In prepared remarks at the same hearing, National Counterterrorism Center Director Michael Leiter stated: “Within the intelligence community we had strategic intelligence that Al Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula [AQAP—the terrorist group in Yemen with which Abdulmutallab was in contact] had the intention of taking action against the United States prior to the failed attack on December 25th, but we did not direct more resources against AQAP, nor insist that watch-listing criteria be adjusted prior to the event.” He added that US intelligence analysts “did not push [Abdulmutallab] onto the terrorist watch-list.”

This inaction came despite the fact that US intelligence agencies were well aware of the threat posed by AQAP. According to Leiter: “The Intelligence Community highlighted the growing threat to US and Western interests in the region posed by AQAP, whose precursor elements attacked our embassy in [the Yemeni capital] Sana’a [in September 2008]. Our analysis focused on AQAP’s plans to strike US targets in Yemen, but it also noted—increasingly in the fall of 2009—the possibility of targeting the United States.”

Amazingly, the US government did not declare AQAP a terrorist group until January 19, 2010, even though it was referred to by that name in 2009. State Department spokesman Philip Crowley stated that declaring AQAP a terrorist group would “prohibit provision of material support and arms to AQAP and also include immigration-related restrictions that will help stem the flow of finances to AQAP.” Thus, for nearly a month after the attempted bombing, US officials were not required to implement a range of measures against AQAP, including “an asset freeze, travel ban, and arms embargo,” according to Crowley.

At the January 27 hearing, Leiter said that there had been “multiple” points of failure in the US government’s response to warnings of the impending attack. However, all three government officials testifying—Kennedy, Leiter and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Deputy Secretary Jane Lute—said no disciplinary action would be taken.

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, who was invited to the hearing and was in Washington at the time, refused to attend. She did not notify committee members beforehand. Napolitano was widely criticized for claiming on December 27 that the “system worked” prior to, during and after the attempted bombing.

Official testimony now records that US intelligence agencies deliberately let Abdulmutallab board Flight 253, putting the lives of hundreds of passengers at risk, in the course of an as yet undisclosed intelligence operation. Whether US agencies were unaware of Abdulmutallab’s plans, or consciously decided to allow an attack to proceed, remains unclear.

In this context, it should be noted that the reason for US inaction given at the hearing—that US intelligence did not want to alert Al Qaeda that it was watching Abdulmutallab—does not hold water. As congressmen noted during the hearing, US Customs and Border Protection had prepared to interrogate Abdulmutallab upon arrival in Detroit, as he was on the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment database. This would be counterproductive if US agencies were mounting a concerted effort to hide their interest in Abdulmutallab.

There are a number of possible explanations for the decision to allow Abdulmutallab to board Northwest Flight 253. One possibility is that it was bound up with efforts by elements within the US intelligence apparatus to politically destabilize the Obama administration.

To seriously investigate the possible motivations behind the government’s actions, the question must be asked: What would have been the consequences of a successful attack? Hysterical media coverage would have provided fodder for the most right-wing factions in the ruling class to demand war against Yemen or other Muslim countries. At home, there would have been calls for a mass dragnet like that after the September 11 attacks, and immense political pressure for a new battery of police-state laws.

Even having failed, the attack was used as a pretext for expanding US military operations in Yemen, adding further security restrictions at airports, and expanding the “no-fly” passenger list and other databases by agencies unaccountable to the American people.

The testimony at the January 27 hearing also blows apart the line promulgated by the establishment media, which universally echoed the administration’s hackneyed phrase to explain the Flight 253 incident—a “failure to connect the dots” on the part of US intelligence agencies. This, of course, is the same phrase used in the official cover-up of the 9/11 attacks.

Thus, in a January 2 editorial entitled “Why Didn’t They See It?” the New York Times wrote: “No doubt sorting through heaps of information and determining what is urgent or even worthy of follow-up is daunting. Still, it is incredible, and frightening, that the government cannot do at least as good a job at swiftly updating and correlating information as Google.”

The Times itself, in a subsequent article published January 18, reported the results of its own investigation, based on interviews with senior White House and intelligence officials. The newspaper revealed more “missed clues,” including the fact that intelligence authorities learned in early November from a communications intercept of Al Qaeda followers in Yemen that a man named “Umar Farouk” had volunteered for a coming operation. Despite such evidence of an official cover-up, the Times maintained the line that the near-disaster was the result of mistakes, omissions and an inability to “connect the dots.”

It is now possible to answer the New York Times editorial of January 2: They did “see it,” and the Times’ incredulous and cynical attempt to explain the Flight 253 attack as the result of mere incompetence was part of a campaign of disinformation. This is a campaign in which, by its silence on the January 27 hearing, the Times continues to participate.

The Congressional hearing vindicates the analysis of the World Socialist Web Site, which exposed the highly dubious character of the official story, pointed to the possibility of US government involvement, and demanded that officials involved in handling Abdulmutallab’s case be named and investigated.

In a December 31 column (“The Northwest Flight 253 intelligence failure: Negligence or conspiracy?”) the World Socialist Web Site wrote: “The general outlines of the Northwest bombing attempt and the 9/11 attacks are startlingly similar. One might even say that what is involved is a modus operandi. In both cases, those alleged to have carried out the actions had been the subject of US intelligence investigations and surveillance and had been allowed to enter the country and board flights under conditions that would normally have set off multiple security alarms.

“Both then and now, the government and the media expect the public to accept that all that was involved was mistakes. But why should anyone assume that the failure to act on the extensive intelligence leading to Abdulmutallab involved merely ‘innocent’ mistakes—and not something far more sinister?”

In the January 18 New York Times article cited above, the newspaper also noted that Obama personally met on December 22 with CIA, FBI, and DHS officials because Obama was “worried about possible terrorist attacks over the Christmas holiday.” In another meeting the same day, the Times reported, Obama’s homeland security advisor John Brennan held talks on Yemen, “where a stream of disturbing intelligence had suggested that Qaeda operatives were preparing for some action, perhaps a strike on an American target on Christmas day.”

Nevertheless, Obama gave a December 28 internet and radio address in which he falsely described Abdulmutallab as an “isolated extremist.”

He also declared: “A full investigation has been launched into this attempted act of terrorism, and we will not rest until we find all who were involved and hold them accountable... We will continue to use every element of our national power to disrupt, to dismantle and defeat the violent extremists who threaten us.”

Over a month after Obama made these claims, it is clear that US intelligence agencies were deeply involved and the White House is overseeing a massive cover-up.
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Does anyone have a synopsis of this level?

If Modern Warfare 2 was supposed to condition/warn us of false flags, what other false flags are in there?



Russia recalls Modern Warfare 2
Monday 16-Nov-2009 9:11 AM Russian gamers not happy over portrayal of civilian massacre
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=227298

Whoops, didn't see this one coming, much. But, as the internet is widely reporting this morning, Russia has recalled copies of Modern Warfare 2, due to the inclusion of the airport massacre level within the game.

UPDATE: Activision has responded to the recall claims here

Developer Infinity Ward has apparently patched the PC version to completely edit out the offending level, with a new completely censored version due to be released to retail shortly.
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Clearly an intelligence agency operation..

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Why are you saying im some cointelpro?

Im a prisonplanet.tv subscriber (have been for 1.5 years) and have listened to alex jones radio from 2003.

But, currently there is not enough evidence to show that the fsb has been behind these attacks.

Today 1 suicide bomber and a car bomb exploded in Ingushetia, next to Dagestan and Chechnya. 2 days ago 10 policemen died in Dagestan after 2  suicide bombers attacked them. Was it FSB behind them too? You can google those news stories.
And, 2 persons died 2 days ago when their car exploded in Dagestan. They were likely rebels who were going to try to do a suicide bombing but their bomb went off too early. Was that also fsb?

Or is that part of a larger campaign by the few living rebels in the caucasus region.


The nigerian airplane underwear bomber was clearly staged but i think saying everything is cia or fsb or new world order is just plain stupid. My grandfather flew a curtiss airplane in second world war and was also a rifle man and killed many russians. Its not such a hard thing to do.


My grandfather was only 17 years old when he went and joined the war against the Soviet union (they were only russians who fought Finland i must say, so thats why i call them russians).


Lets speculate a little bit: If you believe it is a war, then you want to attack the enemy even if you only are 17 years old, im referring to the suicide bomber, then I believe its highly likely someone can blow herself up even if she is just 17 years old. Reason she might have had drugs is because then it is easier to kill yourself if you are a little "out of space".

you said sane that  my message was somekinda cointelpromessage. Why cant you allow people to have differences of opinion. Ron Paul hasnt said publicly that 9/11 was an inside job but still you say he is good man. Well he is a good man, but why is he left alone with his opinion, but then when some forum member like me, who has been here for many years, why cant I have my own opinion on this subject? Why cant I say: this is not an inside job this moscow bombing.

My country has about one thousand miles of border with Russia. Russia started its war against us in 1939 with a false flag attack, read about it here:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

"The Shelling of Mainila (Finnish: Mainilan laukaukset) was a military incident on November 26, 1939, where the Soviet Union's Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila (located near Beloostrov), declared that the fire originated from Finland across a nearby border, and claimed losses in personnel. The Soviet Union gained a great propaganda boost and a casus belli for launching the Winter War four days later."

I know all the false flags russia can do but fact is that probably hundreds of millions of people hate Russia so if someone snaps and wants to blow herself up in the process, i dont wonder why.

The only way FSB could be behind this wuold be if Doku Umarov would be an agent and he somehow could have gotten a lot of people who are willing to die and kill russians. But since russia is already a police state, putin and others woulpd gain nothing from these bombings. It doenst matter if putins popularity is 0.1% because that country is Russia. Russians are slaves and they will never throw a dictator out.

If someone theorises that it was cia who did the bombings to blackmail russia, well guess again. Russias leadership could care less if their own people die. Russia males live averagely 59 years and no russian leader thinks anything of the russian people except that they are milkslaves to be milked and profited on.

Funny how the mainstrea media isnt trying to capitalize and gain with the Moscow bombings much. Usually when a false flag happens, its on tv 24/7 for weeks like the nigerian underwear bomber was.

i said it once and I say again, my opinion is that this was a real attack. This wasnt even a big attack in the metro. It was no WTC with 3000 dead. It was 30 dead. If a nuke explodes and takes away moscow, then I think its a false flag. But as long as its just 2kg TNT or something, its hardly a big fance mi5/fsb/nwo false flag.


Everyone, go look at this: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=51488.msg239632#msg239632

I wrote a thread 1.5 years ago about the death of over 800 people when a ferryship sank in the baltic sea. I think it was a bomb and not an accident. No one replied to my thread, I wrote it for 3 hours. Theres a real bomb thing in my mind that needs more coverage. Theory is that Sweden was taking soviet weapons from Estonia when Russia intervened and sank the ship. 2 weeks before the sinking, russian weaponrys was smuggled on the ship to Swedsen. This was covered in the news when a customs official broke the silence.

So if im some cointelpro, why would I write about the death of over 800 people that I think were murdered by russia and then want to try to be some cointelpro agent and keep quiet the death of 30-40 from the subway bombing.

Well, i suggest you all read that MS Estonia  article. Its was a sad thing when that ship sunk.

Those who say: who benefits from subway bombing in russia. Well, there is always one who benefits in russia from anything and that is the russian government. They can twist anything into their own propaganda to make them benefit. Russian people are slaves who have been under kgb brainwashing for  the better part of the century so they will believe anything.


Was government behind the following attacks?
9/11, yes
7/7 london, yes
gulf of tonkin staged, yes
nigerian underwearbomber, yes
jfk, yes
russia aparment building bombings in 1999, yes
moscow subway bombing: i have the right to my own opinion and so far not enough evidence suggests this is a false flag like the apartmentbuilding bombings were in 1999 so my answer is: pending.

Is that good enough for you people?

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Why are you saying im some cointelpro?

Im a prisonplanet.tv subscriber (have been for 1.5 years) and have listened to alex jones radio from 2003.

But, currently there is not enough evidence to show that the fsb has been behind these attacks.

Today 1 suicide bomber and a car bomb exploded in Ingushetia, next to Dagestan and Chechnya. 2 days ago 10 policemen died in Dagestan after 2  suicide bombers attacked them. Was it FSB behind them too? You can google those news stories.
And, 2 persons died 2 days ago when their car exploded in Dagestan. They were likely rebels who were going to try to do a suicide bombing but their bomb went off too early. Was that also fsb?

Or is that part of a larger campaign by the few living rebels in the caucasus region.


The nigerian airplane underwear bomber was clearly staged but i think saying everything is cia or fsb or new world order is just plain stupid. My grandfather flew a curtiss airplane in second world war and was also a rifle man and killed many russians. Its not such a hard thing to do.


My grandfather was only 17 years old when he went and joined the war against the Soviet union (they were only russians who fought Finland i must say, so thats why i call them russians).


Lets speculate a little bit: If you believe it is a war, then you want to attack the enemy even if you only are 17 years old, im referring to the suicide bomber, then I believe its highly likely someone can blow herself up even if she is just 17 years old. Reason she might have had drugs is because then it is easier to kill yourself if you are a little "out of space".

you said sane that  my message was somekinda cointelpromessage. Why cant you allow people to have differences of opinion. Ron Paul hasnt said publicly that 9/11 was an inside job but still you say he is good man. Well he is a good man, but why is he left alone with his opinion, but then when some forum member like me, who has been here for many years, why cant I have my own opinion on this subject? Why cant I say: this is not an inside job this moscow bombing.

My country has about one thousand miles of border with Russia. Russia started its war against us in 1939 with a false flag attack, read about it here:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

"The Shelling of Mainila (Finnish: Mainilan laukaukset) was a military incident on November 26, 1939, where the Soviet Union's Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila (located near Beloostrov), declared that the fire originated from Finland across a nearby border, and claimed losses in personnel. The Soviet Union gained a great propaganda boost and a casus belli for launching the Winter War four days later."

I know all the false flags russia can do but fact is that probably hundreds of millions of people hate Russia so if someone snaps and wants to blow herself up in the process, i dont wonder why.

The only way FSB could be behind this wuold be if Doku Umarov would be an agent and he somehow could have gotten a lot of people who are willing to die and kill russians. But since russia is already a police state, putin and others woulpd gain nothing from these bombings. It doenst matter if putins popularity is 0.1% because that country is Russia. Russians are slaves and they will never throw a dictator out.

If someone theorises that it was cia who did the bombings to blackmail russia, well guess again. Russias leadership could care less if their own people die. Russia males live averagely 59 years and no russian leader thinks anything of the russian people except that they are milkslaves to be milked and profited on.

Funny how the mainstrea media isnt trying to capitalize and gain with the Moscow bombings much. Usually when a false flag happens, its on tv 24/7 for weeks like the nigerian underwear bomber was.

i said it once and I say again, my opinion is that this was a real attack. This wasnt even a big attack in the metro. It was no WTC with 3000 dead. It was 30 dead. If a nuke explodes and takes away moscow, then I think its a false flag. But as long as its just 2kg TNT or something, its hardly a big fance mi5/fsb/nwo false flag.


Everyone, go look at this: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=51488.msg239632#msg239632

I wrote a thread 1.5 years ago about the death of over 800 people when a ferryship sank in the baltic sea. I think it was a bomb and not an accident. No one replied to my thread, I wrote it for 3 hours. Theres a real bomb thing in my mind that needs more coverage. Theory is that Sweden was taking soviet weapons from Estonia when Russia intervened and sank the ship. 2 weeks before the sinking, russian weaponrys was smuggled on the ship to Swedsen. This was covered in the news when a customs official broke the silence.

So if im some cointelpro, why would I write about the death of over 800 people that I think were murdered by russia and then want to try to be some cointelpro agent and keep quiet the death of 30-40 from the subway bombing.

Well, i suggest you all read that MS Estonia  article. Its was a sad thing when that ship sunk.

Those who say: who benefits from subway bombing in russia. Well, there is always one who benefits in russia from anything and that is the russian government. They can twist anything into their own propaganda to make them benefit. Russian people are slaves who have been under kgb brainwashing for  the better part of the century so they will believe anything.


Was government behind the following attacks?
9/11, yes
7/7 london, yes
gulf of tonkin staged, yes
nigerian underwearbomber, yes
jfk, yes
russia aparment building bombings in 1999, yes
moscow subway bombing: i have the right to my own opinion and so far not enough evidence suggests this is a false flag like the apartmentbuilding bombings were in 1999 so my answer is: pending.

Is that good enough for you people?

Your father was an actual soldier fighting for I guess some liberty from oppression. You talk about a war where soldiers are targeted. As Putin is losing his power due to humanity always being against lengthy leadership amid an economic worldwide catastrophe, there is this attack.

This was not an attack on soldiers.

This was not an attack which displays a people's god given right to liberty.

This is an attack supposedly by a mind controlled drone who was under tyranny herseld and doped up.

The entire attack was invented years ago in wargames documentation and was even in a fricking video game.

The attack was replicated (same scenario) in DC at almost exactly the same time.

There are no witnesses, actually there are many witnesses who completely deny the entire "official story".

The obvious goal of the attack is to scare the living shit out of the population to give more power to Putin which he could not attain without the attack. There was zero, absolutely zero military advantage to the attack.

The worldwide media was in a deliberate "9/11 mode" in the automatic identification of the "terrorists" and how to deal with them with zero investigation whatsoever. And the information was released with military style synchronized intentionality, almost according to a pre-planned script.

So it is very thoughtful of you to go into the lengthy narrative about the ongoing struggle that a people has in dealing with oppression. But you are not saying that the answer is pending with you. You said "I think this is a real attack."

I am saying that statement is either based on a willful desire to ignore evidence, history, and logic or a psyops talking point used to prop up a narrative based on other narratives.

When you see the "hollywood effect" where a terrorist act is used against the people it is supposedly trying to help, then most likely it is a false flag.

This act was supposedly instigated and executed only by 2 mind controlled drugged up females whose faces remained in pristine condition despite blowing up dozens of others in a military style synchronization. The overwhelmingly obvious effect of the attack is the mandatory compliance with naked body scanners at all transportation hubs throughout Russia (and the rest of the former Eastern Block will likely be forced to follow suit due to future similar false flags or because Russia set the example. You see, the naked body scanners are a New World Order project ad not a Western World project. Because it is a New World Order project, everyone on the planet will have to comply and the main goal of this attack was to force Russian people to use these Nazi deathcamp/Soviet gulag contraptions . They obviously were ordered a while ago buut the false flag will make them mandatory.

The same exact agenda for the false flag underwear bomber.

There is absolutely no purpose for this action on the side of the Chechans. The act is overtly counterproductive on its face. There was no investigation, a complete pre-fabricated narrative was spoon fed to us worldwide by Rothschild's AP and Reuters. And all you have to go on is that the Chechan people are suffering? It is like if Palestinians all of a sudden taking puppies and boiling them live on CNN in an attempt to change public opinion against the Neocon psychopaths ruling Israel. How the hell does that make any sense? To be sure, there have been suicide bombings throughout the world, but the burden of proof lies on the state when you see a military precision, synchronized attack on a civilian population while a Terrorist Industrial Complex is almost openly declaring that staged attacks will occur so that they can meet their deadlines of the prison planet grid system.

Hope that response respects the dignity of any people who continually have to live under tyranny.
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very important---- get webster tarpley on the a.j. radio show to explain events behind the moscow bombings and this should be as soon as possible;

too many commentators in the west are jumping the gun blaming the attacks on russian gov. false-flag ops.

i have listened to several world crisis radio broadcasts where tarpley documents exactly how the cia and pentagon control the chechen terrorists the same way they controlled the attacks on russians in south ossetia. also documented is the fact u.s. gov. is harboring chechen terrorist leaders inside the u.s.a.


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That would make sense, perhaps, the drills in D.C. could have been classic misdirection.

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very important---- get webster tarpley on the a.j. radio show to explain events behind the moscow bombings and this should be as soon as possible;

too many commentators in the west are jumping the gun blaming the attacks on russian gov. false-flag ops.

i have listened to several world crisis radio broadcasts where tarpley documents exactly how the cia and pentagon control the chechen terrorists the same way they controlled the attacks on russians in south ossetia. also documented is the fact u.s. gov. is harboring chechen terrorist leaders inside the u.s.a.



Oh absolutely there is a high probability that this was a US state sponsored terrorist act also giving more power to Putin. I have not clue why people think Putin is some kind of humanitarian who is not also a pivotal chess piece in Brzezinski wargames. The guy puts polonium in people's tea and MI6 is ordered to stand down. WTF? Of course the elite work together on items of the utmost importance...

Space program (including space weapons)

Nuke program

Currency issues (G8)

MK Ultra

Weather weaponry

NWO master projects

Bottom line is that there is no way in hell that military precision synchronized bombings with that devastation in the most secure city in the Eastern World was done by two drugged up mind control kids (they match the exact description of a patsy).

But no one is investigating and the media is still acting like their talking points and narratives are facts.
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go to webster tarpley's website at tarpley.net and dnload world crisis radio broadcast for april 3; (WCR-20100403.mp3)
this broadcast deals with the moscow bombings also the 150 year history of anglo-american involvement in destabilization and terrorism in russia and the caucasses.


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Yes--Webster Tarpley  covered important global issues in his latest broadcast--including the bombings in Russia (most likely US/British Intel. running a black op using their funded terrorists). The US Elite Cabal is losing its grip on world control and targeting Russia and China as their enemies.


World Crisis Radio


Hour 1
http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/world_crisis/0404101.mp3

Hour 2
http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/world_crisis/0404102.mp3

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Re: Subway explosions in Moscow are exactly the same as the military drills in DC!
« Reply #173 on: September 29, 2016, 11:10:05 am »
bump for NJ train disaster ...
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