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The Austin Texas Bombing Is A HUGE Image Blow To The "Tea Party" Right (See, the spin and lies already starting as expected)  ::)
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-austin-texas-bombing-is-a-huge-image-blow-to-the-tea-party-right-2010-2

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The bottom line is that this event is to Obama what Oklahoma City was to Bill Clinton, and Oklahoma City helped Clinton a lot in the dark days after the 1994 election.

Can you believe this guy? A bombing? It won't work this time goon. These people have a history of staging events just like this and feeding off of it to further their agenda and/or to distract from what else they're doing!  ::)
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The bombing?  Hmm?
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Well the building damage sure looked more extensive than what I would speculate that little plane would cause.

Wondering what was in the building that might have been marked for destruction? Why was nobody hurt? Nobody working on thursday morning?  :-\

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Well the building damage sure looked more extensive than what I would speculate that little plane would cause.

Wondering what was in the building that might have been marked for destruction? Why was nobody hurt? Nobody working on thursday morning?  :-\

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The timing of this whole thing is definitely suspect.

Somethings rotten. Just has a funky feeling from the get go.

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This would be a good time to post info about the lead up to the Oklahoma bombing - the push for State Rights etc...  Does anybody have a link to a short and sweet article - something to get all the new people up to speed?
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Will the IRS be purchasing full-body scanners for all its buildings now?

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Austin Suicide Pilot Joseph Andrew Stack Planted Bomb At Airport, Bomb Squad Trying To Defuse
Joe Weisenthal | Feb. 18, 2010, 5:31 PM |
Tags: Terrorism

Apparently Joseph Andrew Stack had larger ambitions than ramming his plane into a government building.
NBC reports, via @breakingnews, that Stack also planted a bomb in a car at an airport, and that bomb squads are trying to defuse it.

Update: The good news is that the bomb is at the relatively minor Georgetown airport north of the city. Still, it's a bomb.

http://www.businessinsider.com/austin-suicide-pilot-andrew-planted-bomb-at-airport-bomb-squad-trying-to-defuse-2010-2

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This would be a good time to post info about the lead up to the Oklahoma bombing - the push for State Rights etc...  Does anybody have a link to a short and sweet article - something to get all the new people up to speed?

Not a short and sweet article, but a link to a BUNCH of state sovereignty stuff here:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=394.0

The federal government blew up the Murrah building in 1995 in order to derail the "state sovereignty" movement.  States such as Colorado led the way (with the help of people like Jack Travis / JTCoyote) in passing resolutions which reminded the federal government that the U.S. is a coalition of soverign states.  And those states have the right to say NO to abusive federal legislation.  Several states passed resolutions, and the federal government stopped the momentum by blowing up one of its federal buildings on "Tax Day" in 1995.

And now, in 2010, Texas is about to throw a BIG wrench into the federal government's plans to destroy America.  Debra Medina is running for Governor, and she wants to eliminate property tax in the Texas, do away with federal gun laws, bring the Texas National Guard home from Iraq to guard the Mexican border, and begin an aggressive plan of "nullification" of abusive federal legislation.  Medina is being demonized in every way they can think of.  This incident today is being blamed on people the media has spent the past couple of weeks forcibly linking to Medina.

Go to the link above to read about states rights, and then find out if YOUR state has a state sovereignty resolution in place.  If it doesn't, then search that forum for advice on how to pressure your state houses to pass one.

The federal government is an out-of-control juggernaut.  Control can only be imposed now at the state level.

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This would be a good time to post info about the lead up to the Oklahoma bombing - the push for State Rights etc...  Does anybody have a link to a short and sweet article - something to get all the new people up to speed?

It's not short and concise, but info on OKC:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=5028
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Not a short and sweet article, but a link to a BUNCH of state sovereignty stuff here:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=394.0

The federal government blew up the Murrah building in 1995 in order to derail the "state sovereignty" movement.  States such as Colorado led the way (with the help of people like Jack Travis / JTCoyote) in passing resolutions which reminded the federal government that the U.S. is a coalition of soverign states.  And those states have the right to say NO to abusive federal legislation.  Several states passed resolutions, and the federal government stopped the momentum by blowing up one of its federal buildings on "Tax Day" in 1995.

And now, in 2010, Texas is about to throw a BIG wrench into the federal government's plans to destroy America.  Debra Medina is running for Governor, and she wants to eliminate property tax in the Texas, do away with federal gun laws, bring the Texas National Guard home from Iraq to guard the Mexican border, and begin an aggressive plan of "nullification" of abusive federal legislation.  Medina is being demonized in every way they can think of.  This incident today is being blamed on people the media has spent the past couple of weeks forcibly linking to Medina.

Go to the link above to read about states rights, and then find out if YOUR state has a state sovereignty resolution in place.  If it doesn't, then search that forum for advice on how to pressure your state houses to pass one.

The federal government is an out-of-control juggernaut.  Control can only be imposed now at the state level.

 You know what, you lose all sense of proportion and any credibility you may have had, when you waft off into the realm of the utterly ridiculous, or as in this instance "Typhooned your way into the realm of the ridiculous" by prefacing your otherwise interesting and fair assessment of the federal government, with the most baseless, lunatic fringe drivel, imaginable.... ::)
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21 posts are way too many for you Denali . ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz...........

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You should read more.  The government's own experts say the "McVeigh bomb" didn't blow up the Murrah building:

http://old.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id2461/pg2/index.html

This was a federal building, with controlled access, so who other than federal employees could have set the multiple charges?

Search this forum for threads on this.  There's no doubt the government did the job.  The evidence is overwhelming.  Check out General Benton Partin's investigations.  Look at the internet video of bomb trucks at the bldg.  NASA scientists, air force bomb experts, so on, so on.  Look at McVeigh's trail through Elohim City...a government spook start to finish.  You're the wacky one if you believe the govt version of events.

All governments regularly attack themselves so their citizens will rally around them.  Read up on foreign incidents too.  You need to educate yourself.

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This is the absolute key point.  THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT THAT PLANE CAUSED THAT KIND OF DESTRUCTION AND A "BIG FIREBALL".

Link that to the fact that NO ONE KNEW OF STACK AS POLITICAL.  He was taken, killed, put in a remote controlled plane and flown into the building.  His website was hacked and the false manifesto was posted.  They torched his house.  There was no participation in this by Joe Stack whatsoever.  He was simply identified and profiled as a likely patsy and then set up.

The plane was either packed with explosives or the building was rigged.  Note:  the building was half empty.  Note: the was a much larger IRS building in the area that would have made a much better target for the supposed purpose. 

TOTAL, CLASSIC FALSE FLAG!

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He was taken, killed, put in a remote controlled plane and flown into the building.  His website was hacked and the false manifesto was posted.  They torched his house.  There was no participation in this by Joe Stack whatsoever.  He was simply identified and profiled as a likely patsy and then set up.

Except, why did his family stay elsewhere while his house was torched?

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Thanks for the links on OKC bombing guys.
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This is the absolute key point.  THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT THAT PLANE CAUSED THAT KIND OF DESTRUCTION AND A "BIG FIREBALL".

Link that to the fact that NO ONE KNEW OF STACK AS POLITICAL.  He was taken, killed, put in a remote controlled plane and flown into the building.  His website was hacked and the false manifesto was posted.  They torched his house.  There was no participation in this by Joe Stack whatsoever.  He was simply identified and profiled as a likely patsy and then set up.

The plane was either packed with explosives or the building was rigged.  Note:  the building was half empty.  Note: the was a much larger IRS building in the area that would have made a much better target for the supposed purpose. 

TOTAL, CLASSIC FALSE FLAG!

  ::) Have it all worked out do you? You forgot the part where he was ordered to self-destruct by "counterintelligence professional Glen Beck" through "uber mega-supermassive" secret mediumwave transmissions....
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So did you do your assigned reading, Denali?  Probably not.  Here's the simple version for you:

Somewhere between ten and fifteen explosives experts and professional engineers have written strongly worded opinions that the Murrah building had to have been destroyed by interior bombs and that the ANFO truck could not have done the damage. These experts included a NASA scientist and demolition experts who have worked in the field for thirty years. What is most eye-opening is that even a government report concluded that the ANFO truck bomb couldn't have possibly destroyed the Murrah building. ... The report, which included an extensive technical analysis that the Air Force commissioned from construction and demolition expert John Culberston, concluded that ". . . it is impossible to ascribe the damage that occurred on April 19, 1995 to a single truck bomb containing 4,800 lbs. of ANFO . . . It must be concluded that the damage at the Murrah Building is not the result of the truck bomb itself, but rather due to other factors such as locally placed charges within the building itself . . ."

(By the time the ANFO blast wave hit the columns it would have been yielding 25-375 psi; the yield strength of concrete is 3,500-5,000 psi.) The report also made it clear that larger, thicker columns further away from the truck bomb came down, while smaller columns much closer to the truck were undamaged. "You don't have to go any further than that to know that you had demolition charges on those larger columns. There's no other explanation for it . . . Unless you believe in magic," Partin said.

And so on.

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So did you do your assigned reading, Denali?  Probably not.  Here's the simple version for you:

Somewhere between ten and fifteen explosives experts and professional engineers have written strongly worded opinions that the Murrah building had to have been destroyed by interior bombs and that the ANFO truck could not have done the damage. These experts included a NASA scientist and demolition experts who have worked in the field for thirty years. What is most eye-opening is that even a government report concluded that the ANFO truck bomb couldn't have possibly destroyed the Murrah building. ... The report, which included an extensive technical analysis that the Air Force commissioned from construction and demolition expert John Culberston, concluded that ". . . it is impossible to ascribe the damage that occurred on April 19, 1995 to a single truck bomb containing 4,800 lbs. of ANFO . . . It must be concluded that the damage at the Murrah Building is not the result of the truck bomb itself, but rather due to other factors such as locally placed charges within the building itself . . ."

(By the time the ANFO blast wave hit the columns it would have been yielding 25-375 psi; the yield strength of concrete is 3,500-5,000 psi.) The report also made it clear that larger, thicker columns further away from the truck bomb came down, while smaller columns much closer to the truck were undamaged. "You don't have to go any further than that to know that you had demolition charges on those larger columns. There's no other explanation for it . . . Unless you believe in magic," Partin said.

And so on.

 Instead of the "ahh" simple version, how about posting some links to these "demolitions experts" and the NASA scientist's data?
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lol.  Man, you need to develop some skills or you'll never get that cubicle at Langley.

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It's only a "blow" to the Tea Party if they play along by not USING the event as an example of out of control government driving people over the edge. There's no reason not to hold this up as an example of the dangers of an overbearing government.

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lol.  Man, you need to develop some skills or you'll never get that cubicle at Langley.

 :'(

 So, you're saying you have no data to support your position?
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Austin Suicide Pilot Joseph Andrew Stack Planted Bomb At Airport, Bomb Squad Trying To Defuse
Joe Weisenthal | Feb. 18, 2010, 5:31 PM |
Tags: Terrorism

Apparently Joseph Andrew Stack had larger ambitions than ramming his plane into a government building.
NBC reports, via @breakingnews, that Stack also planted a bomb in a car at an airport, and that bomb squads are trying to defuse it.

Update: The good news is that the bomb is at the relatively minor Georgetown airport north of the city. Still, it's a bomb.

http://www.businessinsider.com/austin-suicide-pilot-andrew-planted-bomb-at-airport-bomb-squad-trying-to-defuse-2010-2

Oh, this is bull! If he could make bombs wouldn't he have also wired up his plane to devastate the government building? This stinks to high heaven like a false flag, government planted car bomb.


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Instead of the "ahh" simple version, how about posting some links to these "demolitions experts" and the NASA scientist's data?

Here ya go:

http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_01.htm
-Benton K. Partin, a retired US general and weapons expert who has studied the damage pattern with serious care and written a detailed report about the bombing.
-"Bud", a trained military demolitions professional in contact with David Hoffman, writer of "The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics Of Terror"
-Sam Gronning, a professional blaster in Wyoming, doesn't believe that McVeigh's bomb would have even scuffed the paint of the building
-Sam Cohen, a weapons expert with experience at Los Alamos Lab, stated that the official story was "absolutely impossible and against the laws of nature"
-Roger Raubach, a chemistry expert: "I don't care if they pulled up a semi-trailer truck with 20 tons of ammonium nitrate; it wouldn't do the damage we saw there."

As for an endless mountain of evidence that there were bombs in the building, check out this page:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok.html

It contains sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses, reports from police and federal agencies on the scene,seismic evidence, and news reports in which local stations CONFIRM that two unexploded bombs were caried out of the building.

There is no reasonable doubt that there were bombs planted inside Murrah.

I understand that the idea of the OKC bombing being a covert government operation may be scary to you, but when one examines the evidence, it is the only reasonable conclusion:

OKC Bombing And The Politics Of Terror by David Hoffman
http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm

The ATF Offices In The Murrah Building Were Empty And Witnesses Said That They Were Informed That They Had Been Warned Not To Come In
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl9tI8TiKfQ

OKC Bombing Cover-Up
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm

Tackle this stuff with an open mind, man -- the government has a long history of staging terrorism for political gain. This is not debated.