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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #360 on: February 26, 2017, 08:06:00 am »
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the soldiers of the state are watching you.”


ISIS Declares To Muslims In New Video To ‘Hunt Down,
Terrorize, And Slaughter All The Christians Of Egypt’

Andrew Bieszad - February 20, 2017

  Christianity is under attack in Muslim nations in ways not seen for centuries.

   It is nothing short of a genocide as Islamic groups such as ISIS with complicit governments allow these people to commit heinous violence against the Christians without limit, and all the while the Muslims brag about it.

   In a recent story coming out of Egypt, ISIS has encouraged Muslims in a new video to commit genocide against the Christians, vowing to terrorize, hunt down, and destroy every last one of them:

   In a newly released 20-minute video, ISIS’ media wing in Egypt encouraged fellow jihadists to terrorize and kill Christians across the country.

   Around 10% of Egypt’s population identify as Christians and most adhere to the Coptic Orthodox branch of Christianity. The minority is frequently targeted by terror attacks from either ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood.

Generally, the Copts tend to support the Egyptian Army which has yet to halt the continuous Islamic State raids that plague the Sinai desert. (source)

(ED: Full video was taken down immediately by Youtube)
Part of the video can be viewed on Twitter here: at link

   Several days ago I wrote how in spite of the intentions to want Christians to stay in the Middle East and rebuild their areas, this was simply a pipe dream not based in reality. Christianity in the Middle East has become under intense threat as of late, and even the Christians themselves recognize that their future is at best questionable given the rise in Islamic orthodoxy combines with the improved methods of learning, communication, and more efficient weapons to deal out the same horrific deaths quicker and over larger numbers of people. Whether it is a the hands of a group like ISIS or outright persecution from a central government such as Turkey, the writing is on the wall just like it was for the Christians of Turkey during the Hamidian massacres of 1895 in the years before the great genocide of 1917- Christians in the Middle East are a hated, hunted people who are biding their time until their extermination.

   Right now, we have a choice- either help the Christians of the Middle East as we can to escape to a safe location, or hope they can rebuild their current societies while most likely subjecting them to a fate of torture and death and then wondering what could have been done to stop it.

http://shoebat.com/2017/02/20/isis-declares-to-muslims-in-new-video-to-hunt-down-terrorize-and-slaughter-all-the-christians-of-egypt/

I heard in Belgrade that not only Muslim brotherhood hate and kill Christian Copts but most Muslim population hate their neighbor Christians.
Who defended Copts ? Dictator Gen. Mubarak on Christmas Eve and Easter by police.

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #361 on: February 26, 2017, 05:05:21 pm »

Egypt's Christians flee terror in north Sinai security void

By BRIAN ROHAN
Associated Press

ISMAILIA, Egypt (AP) -- After Islamic militants barged into his uncle's house, shot him and his son dead, then looted the place and set it on fire, Said Sameh Adel Fawzy knew it was time to leave.

The 35-year-old Christian, who owns a plumbing supply business in Egypt's troubled northern Sinai town of el-Arish, packed up a few belongings and brought his family to the Suez Canal city of Ismailia, joining hundreds of Christians fleeing a spate of sectarian killings last week.

"My cousin went to open the door after he heard knocking," Fawzy said, speaking from a youth hostel where authorities were putting up dozens of families who fled the town. "Masked extremists, terrorists with a pistol, took him inside and shot him in the head," then dragged his screaming mother out to the street half-dressed and killed her husband. The woman, still in shock after the Tuesday night slayings, sat nearby.

More >  http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_EGYPT_CHRISTIANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-26-17-07-24


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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #362 on: March 05, 2017, 03:12:25 pm »
 The War on Christians started 2000 years ago on earth.

Jesus Christ Himself told us so.

And ye shall be HATED of all men for my name sake; but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22

When we follow Jesus Christ; this world will HATE us.

This WAR will only end when The Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ returns to take what is HIS. and that would be those who are saved.

"When the Truth was murdered:
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #363 on: March 11, 2017, 08:57:46 pm »
... this is shocking, very disturbing:

"... in meetings of the Lake Worth, Florida City Commission, atheists,
Satan worshipers and Muslims have banded together to hijack the
Invocation that is supposed to ceremoniously start the government
planning session."


(Ed: Notice how the Christians walk out before they start.)

City council meeting praising Satan, Allah etc very satanic
MUST SEE 3:05: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeBq9gLrnPo

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #364 on: March 14, 2017, 11:41:16 am »
... this is shocking, very disturbing:

"... in meetings of the Lake Worth, Florida City Commission, atheists,
Satan worshipers and Muslims have banded together to hijack the
Invocation that is supposed to ceremoniously start the government
planning session."


(Ed: Notice how the Christians walk out before they start.)

City council meeting praising Satan, Allah etc very satanic
MUST SEE 3:05: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeBq9gLrnPo


Now the Satanists are out in the open...and they will not stop.

We as Christians are on Enemy Territory; as Satan is the Power of The Air. and we can see his evilness all over earth.

Jesus explains to us that we will endure hardships for HIM! and we are Soldiers in a WAR!

" Thou therefor endure hardness, as a good Soldier of Jesus Christ."  II Timothy 2:3

We as Christians have a responsibility too be Soldiers in a War that has been raging from the time of Satan's pride/which led him to sin.

Jesus Christ died for our sins! will you fight for HIS NAME?...My clan and I will!!!

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #365 on: March 25, 2017, 09:06:38 am »
... and also in the entire Holy Land?

‘Vicar Of Baghdad’ Predicts
End Of Christianity In Iraq

DAVID KRAYDEN - 03/23/2017

Anglican Church priest Andrew White says Christians are leaving Iraq at such a rate that the Mideast country could be bereft of believers in the near future.

The “Vicar of Baghdad” told Fox News this week that
the end is near for Christianity in Iraq.


The time has come where it is over, no Christians will be left. Some say Christians should stay to maintain the historical presence, but it has become very difficult. The future for the community is very limited,” White said. “The Christians coming out of Iraq and ISIS areas in the Middle East all say the same thing, there is no way they are ever going back. They have had enough.

Iraq was once an island of Christian influence in a Muslim sea. About 1.4 million Christians lived there 30 years ago. The number dwindled to around 1 million after the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003, and it’s been downhill ever since, with an estimated 250,000 remaining now.

There is no reason for optimism on the horizon, the canon says.

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“If there is anything I can tell Americans it is that your fellow brothers and sisters are suffering, they are desperate for help,” he said. “And it is not just a matter of praying for peace. They need a lot – food, resources, clothes, everything. They need everything.”

√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/23/vicar-of-baghdad-predicts-end-of-christianity-in-iraq/#ixzz4cLXBCqXC
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #366 on: March 25, 2017, 05:58:20 pm »
... and also in the entire Holy Land?

‘Vicar Of Baghdad’ Predicts
End Of Christianity In Iraq

DAVID KRAYDEN - 03/23/2017

Anglican Church priest Andrew White says Christians are leaving Iraq at such a rate that the Mideast country could be bereft of believers in the near future.

The “Vicar of Baghdad” told Fox News this week that
the end is near for Christianity in Iraq.


The time has come where it is over, no Christians will be left. Some say Christians should stay to maintain the historical presence, but it has become very difficult. The future for the community is very limited,” White said. “The Christians coming out of Iraq and ISIS areas in the Middle East all say the same thing, there is no way they are ever going back. They have had enough.

Iraq was once an island of Christian influence in a Muslim sea. About 1.4 million Christians lived there 30 years ago. The number dwindled to around 1 million after the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003, and it’s been downhill ever since, with an estimated 250,000 remaining now.

There is no reason for optimism on the horizon, the canon says.

√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/23/vicar-of-baghdad-predicts-end-of-christianity-in-iraq/#ixzz4cLXBCqXC
True point my friend  ;)...as Islam, thinks it can rule the world.  :P ::) :P

WOW; and how wrong they are.

Real Christians are soldiers of Jesus Christ...and we do not strat fights: But we sure know how to END THIER WAR!

...America is the wrong nation for Radical Islam to invade>Because we are True to GOD of the Bible and HE always wins!

...Islam is a Cult of World Dominance and Americans will Kick their Arses all the way back to 600AD!
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #367 on: May 26, 2017, 06:38:23 am »

REUTERS/David McNew

Report:
Gunmen Massacre Coptic Christians in Egypt, Killing at Least 24

BREITBART JERUSALEM - 26 May 2017

CAIRO (AP) — Gunmen opened fire on a bus carrying Coptic Christians south of
the Egyptian capital on Friday, killing 24 people and wounding 25, officials said.


The attack happened while the bus was traveling on the road to the St. Samuel Monastery in the Minya governorate, about 220 kilometers (140 miles) south of Cairo, the health ministry said.

The ministry said there were between eight and 10 attackers dressed in military uniforms, according to witnesses.

No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack, which came on the eve of the holy Muslim month of Ramadan. Egypt has been fighting Islamic State group-linked militants who have waged an insurgency, mainly focused in the volatile north of the Sinai Peninsula but there have been also attacks on the mainland.

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Egypt has seen a wave of attacks on its Christians, including twin suicide bombings in April and another attack in December on a Cairo church that left over 75 people dead and scores wounded. The Islamic State group in Egypt claimed responsibility for them and vowed more attacks.

.... Following the pope’s visit, (Ed: last month) the Islamic State affiliate in Egypt vowed to escalate attacks against Christians, urging Muslims to steer clear of Christian gatherings and western embassies as they are targets of their group’s militants.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/05/26/egypt-gunmen-massacre-christians-killing-least-23/
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #368 on: May 28, 2017, 12:11:47 pm »
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!

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Re: The War on Christians
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #370 on: May 28, 2017, 02:04:46 pm »
...and silence of MSM>:(

and they give breitbart bad press ...
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/05/28/in-ramadan-massacre-egyptian-christians-killed-for-refusing-to-renounce-their-faith-in-jesus/
In Ramadan Massacre, Egyptian Christians Killed for Refusing to Renounce Their Faith in Jesus
by Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.
28 May 2017

As more and more details emerge concerning Friday’s Ramadan attack on a busload of Christians on pilgrimage, the more it becomes evident that these 29 martyrs died solely because they were Christians.

Survivors of the attack said that the ten masked Islamic State militants did not merely open fire on the bus full of Christian pilgrims on their way to the Monastery of Saint Samuel the Confesor, but that the victims were made to descend from the bus and asked one by one whether they were Christians before being shot by the assailants.

According to one of the chaplains of the group, Father Rashed, as each pilgrim came off the bus they were asked to renounce their Christian faith and profess belief in Islam, but all of them—even the children—refused. Each was killed in cold blood with a gunshot to the head or the throat.

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and they give Israel bad press:


http://www.timesofisrael.com/tel-aviv-city-hall-lit-with-egypt-flag-in-solidarity-with-cairo-terror-victims/
Tel Aviv City Hall lit with Egypt flag in solidarity with Copt terror victims

In first such gesture toward Arab country, municipality building shows Eagle of Saladin after 29 Christian Copts killed by IS gunman

By Times of Israel staff May 28, 2017, 1:36 am 



The Tel Aviv municipality building was lit in the colors of the Egyptian flag Saturday night, in a gesture of solidarity with Israel’s neighbor a day after a deadly shooting attack near Cairo.
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #371 on: August 04, 2017, 09:12:19 pm »
The U.S. Must Act On The Genocide Of Iraq’s Christians
SEN. MARCO RUBIO - 08/04/2017


Iraqis attend the first Palm Sunday procession in the burnt out main church of the Christian city of Qaraqosh since Iraqi forces
retook it from Islamic States militants, Iraq April 9, 2017.
REUTERS/Suhaib Salem

Three years ago this week, disturbing images of women and children fleeing the Islamic State in northern Iraq shocked the world. During the siege of Mt. Sinjar, reports emerged of ISIS militants ruthlessly massacring Yazidi men and kidnapping and enslaving Yazidi women and children. Girls were separated by eye color and sold to ISIS fighters based on their preference. Thousands were trapped on the mountain, desperate for food, water and rescue.

Similarly, Iraq’s ancient Christian community was in the crosshairs as ISIS attempted to establish a caliphate. Days after the Sinjar massacre, ISIS seized Qaraqosh, Iraq’s largest Christian city with a population of 50,000. Fleeing on foot, many could not escape being killed, kidnapped, or forced to convert. Churches and other holy sites that had stood for centuries were bombed, defaced or destroyed, or turned into torture chambers and weapons storehouses. The full measure of human suffering exacted against these innocent people remains incalculable.

This bloodthirsty campaign targeting ethnic and religious minorities was clearly genocide—a term I do not use lightly.
At the time, I and many others urged the Obama Administration to officially recognize the Islamic State’s atrocities for what they were, and then-Secretary of State John Kerry finally did, on March 17, 2016. His declaration that ISIS is “responsible for genocide” against Christians, Yezidis and other religious minorities was only the second time in history that a U.S. secretary of state made a genocide determination—the first being Darfur. Both the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives unanimously passed resolutions denouncing this genocide.

Unfortunately, it is unclear whether the current administration maintains this determination. It is important for Secretary Tillerson to publicly address this issue and clarify the administration’s stance, which my colleagues and I have asked him to do. Even then, words without action will not change the reality on the ground. The Trump Administration must take decisive steps to counter the gravity of the situation: ISIS is seeking to erase thousands of years of history and the people who represent it.

The Bible’s Old Testament is full of references to the ancient cities and towns that comprise modern-day Iraq. Abraham hailed from Ur in southern Iraq. Isaac’s wife Rebekah was from northwest Iraq. The twelve sons of Jacob were all born in Iraq, and the spiritual revival depicted in the book of Jonah occurred in the city of Nineveh, now known as Mosul. Many of the Christians there still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus, and trace their faith back to the Apostle Thomas. Sadly, their population in Iraq has quickly dwindled from 1.4 million a generation ago to less than 200,000 today.

If the United States fails to take meaningful steps to support these communities, including ensuring their access to humanitarian assistance and the resources they need to rebuild, even more of them will be forced to abandon their ancient homeland. This would be a tragedy on a multitude of levels, and a deathblow to the vision of a diverse, pluralistic, Iraq that respects religious freedom. The State Department has an obligation to ensure “vulnerable and persecuted religious minorities, including victims of genocide” receive humanitarian aid, as Congress directed in the most recent appropriations legislation.

I will continue to press for oversight and accountability in this area, but the Executive Branch must prioritize the issue, rather than allow the inertia of the State Department bureaucracy to dictate the path forward. President Trump should quickly end the exclusion of genocide-targeted minorities from U.S. humanitarian and reconstruction aid. A presidential directive would provide much-needed guidance to State Department and USAID personnel.

I have no doubt that once Governor Sam Brownback is confirmed as ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom, he will be a stalwart advocate on behalf of these beleaguered religious communities.

Additionally, Secretary Tillerson should move swiftly to appoint a special coordinator based in northern Iraq who can directly oversee U.S. assistance and collaborate closely with local partners and civil society groups. The U.S. should not cede this important work to the United Nations Development Fund. Combining these efforts with diplomatic engagement with Iraq’s central government and the Kurdistan Regional Government, we can help guarantee the political and economic rights of these beleaguered communities, as well their return and protection.

President Obama’s misguided foreign policy did real damage to Iraq’s minorities, but these ancient communities could disappear completely on President Trump’s watch if his administration fails to help them.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/04/the-u-s-must-act-on-the-genocide-of-iraqs-christians/?utm_campaign=thedcmainpage&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #372 on: August 05, 2017, 12:34:46 am »
"... Many of the Christians there still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus, and trace their faith back to the Apostle Thomas. Sadly, their population in Iraq has quickly dwindled from 1.4 million a generation ago to less than 200,000 today..."

I would much rather see these 200,000 taken into our Country, paid for and settled, than the garbage from other areas coming here and living on our tax dollars.

{I'm Angry.  I've had enough of these people.  They're a bunch of Christian-murduring scum...My spirit gets close to that evil and I feel it go   AHHHH!  AHHHH!  AHHHH! }
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #373 on: January 18, 2018, 08:22:35 am »


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Report:
‘Thousands of Christians, Ahmadis, and Hindus’ Fleeing Pakistan to Survive

EDWIN MORA - 17 Jan 2018

Christians and other minorities in Pakistan are bolting away from the predominantly Muslim nation by the “thousands” as Islamabad ignores harassment at the hands of Islamic extremists, reports Asia Times.

Thousands of Christians, Ahmadis, and Hindus are fleeing as the government turns a blind eye to Islamic groups’ harassment of other faiths and beliefs; even atheists have now gone quiet,” notes the news outlet, adding “A closer look at the situation reveals that religious minorities and atheists are at a higher risk than ever.”

The report comes soon after U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration placed Pakistan on a U.S. watchlist for countries of “particular concern” over  “severe violations of religious freedom” after the commander-in-chief blasted Islamabad for harboring jihadists.

“This is only going to get worse,” Ibn Abdur Rehman, secretary-general of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, told Asia Times, referring to the persecution of religious minorities.

“The state has surrendered to the radical Islamists and plans
on gradually taking away every last bit of freedom from its citizens.”


Pakistan reportedly uses its controversial anti-blasphemy law, which carries a harsh sentence of life in prison or death, to target religious minorities, namely Christians.

In 2017, a judge in the Islamabad High Court decreed that “blasphemers are terrorists,” reports Asia Times.

“Islamabad’s capitulation to the radical Islamist mob has endangered the Ahmadiyya [Muslim] community, which has been the target of death threats made openly since the party besieged the capital a few months ago,” it adds.

√ MORE~>http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/01/17/thousands-christians-ahmadis-hindus-fleeing-pakistan-lack-religious-freedoms/
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #374 on: February 09, 2018, 10:37:26 am »
... and we are still doing business with
and treating the Chinese govt as reasonable?


“Minors receiving religious education ... too early in churches would
seriously affect the normal implementation of the education system.”


Chinese Pastors Ordered to Post Signs
on Churches Forbidding Entry to Minors

THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D. - 9 Feb 2018

As part of its most recent clampdown on Christian churches, Chinese authorities have instructed priests and pastors to post signs on churches barring entry to minors.

The instruction is part of a new set of communist party-controlled regulations on religious activities that went into effect on February 1 and is aimed at preventing children and young people from getting religious instruction or taking an active part in Christian worship.

According to a report Thursday from ucanews, the leading independent Catholic news source in Asia, authorities have begun enforcing the government ban on minors in church in several regions, while forcing a number of Protestant house churches in Henan province to close.

The new regulations are an expansion of bans already tried out in certain regions. As Breitbart News reported last August, communist officials had already issued “notices” to over a hundred churches in Wenzhou, within the largely Christian Zhejiang province, informing Christians that children are no longer permitted to enter any church. The notices stated that minors attempting to enter a church would be turned away at the door, even if accompanied by their parents.

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A priest from Henan province named Father Thomas told ucanews.com that authorities are determined to bring all religious activities under strict government control. “The living space for the church is getting less and less,” he said.

“All religious sites must be registered; no religious activities can be held beyond registered venues; non-registered clergymen are forbidden to host religious liturgies; and party members and minors are prohibited from entering a church,” he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/02/09/chinese-pastors-ordered-to-post-signs-on-churches-forbidding-entry-to-minors/

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #375 on: February 10, 2018, 08:02:07 am »
... and we are still doing business with
and treating the Chinese govt as reasonable?


“Minors receiving religious education ... too early in churches would
seriously affect the normal implementation of the education system.”


Chinese Pastors Ordered to Post Signs
on Churches Forbidding Entry to Minors

THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D. - 9 Feb 2018

As part of its most recent clampdown on Christian churches, Chinese authorities have instructed priests and pastors to post signs on churches barring entry to minors.

The instruction is part of a new set of communist party-controlled regulations on religious activities that went into effect on February 1 and is aimed at preventing children and young people from getting religious instruction or taking an active part in Christian worship.

According to a report Thursday from ucanews, the leading independent Catholic news source in Asia, authorities have begun enforcing the government ban on minors in church in several regions, while forcing a number of Protestant house churches in Henan province to close.

The new regulations are an expansion of bans already tried out in certain regions. As Breitbart News reported last August, communist officials had already issued “notices” to over a hundred churches in Wenzhou, within the largely Christian Zhejiang province, informing Christians that children are no longer permitted to enter any church. The notices stated that minors attempting to enter a church would be turned away at the door, even if accompanied by their parents.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/02/09/chinese-pastors-ordered-to-post-signs-on-churches-forbidding-entry-to-minors/

Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger regognize Mao`s China. Why ? Because of business with Communist China.
Jackson, you better know how many "Elite" in USA interest about religious rights in China or other countries.

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #376 on: February 20, 2018, 11:27:16 am »
2/20 303. AD in modern-day Turkey, Roman Emperor Diocletian began the "Persecution of the Christian". After the most terrible torture, 1400 Christians were killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_martyred_during_the_reign_of_Diocletianhttp://

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #377 on: February 23, 2018, 06:15:51 pm »
CHRISTIANS ARRESTED BECAUSE THE
MUSLIMS THOUGHT THEY SAW THEM PRAY!

"... a religious site not only for Jews and Muslims,
but for Christians as well ... they viewed something
as an infraction and then chose to detain us.”


2 U.S. CONGRESSMEN DETAINED ON TEMPLE MOUNT
Confronted after 1 picked up broken olive twig

Those olive twigs on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem must have amazing power. After all, one American visitor, a U.S. congressman, picked one up and he and a companion congressman were immediately confronted by police and detained. The report comes from JNS.

It identified the members of Congress as Republican Reps. Scott Tipton of Colorado and David B. McKinley of West Virginia.

They visited the Temple Mount, only to be “detained by Israel police after an Islamic Waqf official, which administers the Temple Mount, lodged a complaint against them,” the report said.

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“It appears that they violated some unknown rule when Tipton bent down to pick up a broken olive branch off the ground. His movement seems to have agitated the Waqf official who, apparently believing the congressman was bowing as if in prayer, set off the events that followed.”

√ CONTINUE: http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/2-u-s-congressmen-detained-on-temple-mount/
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #378 on: March 14, 2018, 06:28:35 pm »

This is really strange:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/12/college-student-kicked-out-class-for-telling-professor-there-are-only-two-genders.html
 Controversies 2 days ago
College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders
By Caleb Parke | Fox News

A religious studies major was barred from Christianity class at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for saying during class that there are only two genders.

Lake Ingle, a senior at the university, said he was silenced and punished by IUP Professor Alison Downie for questioning her during a Feb. 28 “Christianity 481: Self, Sin, and Salvation” lecture.

After showing a 15-minute TED Talk by transgender ex-pastor Paula Stone Williams discussing the “reality” of “mansplaining,” “sexism from men,” and “male privilege,” the professor asked the women in the class to share their thoughts. When no women in the class said anything, Ingle spoke up, challenging the professor on biology and the gender wage gap.

He told the class that the official view of biologists is that there are only two genders.

The feminist professor booted him from class and asked him not to come back. She referred him to the public university’s Academic Integrity Board (AIB). Ingle needs to complete the class to graduate at the end of the semester.

“You are barred from attending this class in accordance with the Classroom Disruption policy,” IUP Provost Timothy Moerland told Ingle in a March 2 letter
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Ingle objected to Downie’s “overall abuse” as a professor “indoctrinating” students because she won’t listen to the other side of a controversial argument.
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #379 on: March 17, 2018, 08:01:30 am »
"March Pogrom" on Serbs in Kosovo 3/17/2004



Albanian extremist destroying Cross on the Church dedicated Saint Elijah


Albanian extremists in destroyed Monastery dedicated to Saint Archangels

35 Orthodox churches and monasteries desecrated, damaged or destroyed

NATO none responsible for this. 

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #380 on: March 30, 2018, 07:18:42 am »
"... Christians were by far the most persecuted group in the world."

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On a special edition of Breitbart News Daily entitled “The Global War on Christianity,” Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon interviewed legal editor Ken Klukowski, who is also senior counsel and director of strategic affairs for First Liberty Institute, the largest law firm in the United States dedicated exclusively to protecting religious liberty for Americans.

Asked how widespread attacks on Christianity are, Klukowski said the attacks are “proliferating,” adding, “If people go to my law firm’s website, firstliberty.org, they can download a new book from us, called Undeniable, which documents over 1,200 separate instances of hostility to Christians in the United States because of their faith.”

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St Mary’s Catholic Church in Great Yarmouth was “desecrated”
in a satanist attack for the second time in four months.


CCTV caught footage of a man setting small fires in the church on Tuesday before removing a sacred icon from the altar and replacing it with a satanic picture, then trying to burn the Christian object, reports the BBC.

Norfolk Police are examining the video footage and are treating the incident as a religiously aggravated hate crime.

A similar attack occurred four months ago in the 19th-century Grade II listed building when someone placed a satanic picture at the foot of the cross.

Parish priest Father Anthony Nwankwo said:
“Our church and sanctuary has been desecrated.”

“I was shocked and saddened when I discovered what had happened. When I looked at the altar I saw this picture of something satanic. My immediate thought was to get some holy water and use it with prayer to nullify what the person had done.

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Christians are most vulnerable to violence in Muslim-majority countries such as Pakistan, Egypt, and Syria, but Christians in Europe have also found themselves targetted in recent years.

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« Reply #381 on: April 12, 2018, 11:59:54 pm »

Steve Chalke once again courts apostasy by suggesting even atheists will go to Heaven.

Another prominent pastor has emerged, questioning the existence of hell and whether or not salvation is reserved only for committed Christians.

Steve Chalke, a Baptist-ordained minister who graduated from Spurgeon’s College and now leads one of the United Kingdom’s largest evangelical congregations, told his followers at Oasis Church Waterloo in south London recently that if God’s grace is real, it has to be available to everyone, regardless of their religion. He went on to say:

“What if the good residents of Kent had been raised instead in Kurdistan, or those born in Bournemouth had found themselves starting life in Baghdad instead?' he asked. 'Are not many of us who are Western Christians, Christians only because we are Western? Surely, if the most devout Christians had been raised in an Islamic context they would be, very likely, devout Muslims? Or to put another way, is salvation little more than a geographical lottery?

“Is the God of love really content to consign the vast majority of the population of earth to judgement and then on to some kind of hell? Would God - the God who is universal love - ordain that only the Christian minority of the human race can be rescued?"

Chalke went on to say that no one has “any right to place any sort of limits on God’s loving kindness.” He added that he thinks God is more interested in “people as people, rather than as members of religious groups,” and included “even atheists” among them.

He recorded the sermon as part of a video series in which he suggests his own version of Martin Luther’s 95 Theses in an effort to “reform” the modern Church. A short time after it was published, however, it was removed from the YouTube channel on which it was hosted.

This is hardly the first time Chalke has courted apostasy. In 2003, he co-authored “The Lost Message of Jesus,” which rejected Christian teachings on atonement and penal substitution. In 2013, he endorsed “monogamous” same-sex relationships and has since celebrated people who ascribe themselves as “transgendered.”

In 2014, he also published a white paper titled “Restoring Confidence in the Bible: Can we use the Bible as reliable moral and spiritual guide in our 21st century globalized world?” In it he questioned the inerrancy of the Bible.

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Re: New Hell Denier Emerges
« Reply #382 on: April 13, 2018, 07:22:37 am »

Steve Chalke once again courts apostasy by suggesting even atheists will go to Heaven.

Another prominent pastor has emerged, questioning the existence of hell and whether or not salvation is reserved only for committed Christians.

Steve Chalke, a Baptist-ordained minister who graduated from Spurgeon’s College and now leads one of the United Kingdom’s largest evangelical congregations, told his followers at Oasis Church Waterloo in south London recently that if God’s grace is real, it has to be available to everyone, regardless of their religion. He went on to say:

“What if the good residents of Kent had been raised instead in Kurdistan, or those born in Bournemouth had found themselves starting life in Baghdad instead?' he asked. 'Are not many of us who are Western Christians, Christians only because we are Western? Surely, if the most devout Christians had been raised in an Islamic context they would be, very likely, devout Muslims? Or to put another way, is salvation little more than a geographical lottery?

“Is the God of love really content to consign the vast majority of the population of earth to judgement and then on to some kind of hell? Would God - the God who is universal love - ordain that only the Christian minority of the human race can be rescued?"

Chalke went on to say that no one has “any right to place any sort of limits on God’s loving kindness.” He added that he thinks God is more interested in “people as people, rather than as members of religious groups,” and included “even atheists” among them.

He recorded the sermon as part of a video series in which he suggests his own version of Martin Luther’s 95 Theses in an effort to “reform” the modern Church. A short time after it was published, however, it was removed from the YouTube channel on which it was hosted.

This is hardly the first time Chalke has courted apostasy. In 2003, he co-authored “The Lost Message of Jesus,” which rejected Christian teachings on atonement and penal substitution. In 2013, he endorsed “monogamous” same-sex relationships and has since celebrated people who ascribe themselves as “transgendered.”

In 2014, he also published a white paper titled “Restoring Confidence in the Bible: Can we use the Bible as reliable moral and spiritual guide in our 21st century globalized world?” In it he questioned the inerrancy of the Bible.

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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #383 on: April 13, 2018, 07:44:23 am »
Please educate yourselves.

Sheol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheol

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« Reply #385 on: April 13, 2018, 08:15:55 am »
Sheol = Hell

http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/hell-or-sheolgrave-in-psalm-917

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« Reply #386 on: April 13, 2018, 08:32:15 am »
Hell = Made Up

That is neither a Catholic nor Christian doctrine. May be an SPLC talking point, though.
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Pope Francis reportedly denies the existence of hell. Vatican panics.

We’ve seen this before.

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The Vatican communications department has been working overtime the past few weeks. First, its chief communications secretary, Dario Vigano, resigned under pressure after the Vatican admitted to doctoring a photo of a letter from Pope Benedict XVI to bolster Francis’s conservative credentials. Now, they’re scrambling to contextualize a remark attributed to Pope Francis by an Italian journalist at the newspaper La Repubblica that hell does not exist.

Speaking to the newspaper’s founder, journalist and atheist Eugenio Scalfari, Francis was quoted as saying of those who die in a state of mortal sin: “They are not punished. Those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and take their place among the ranks of those who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot be forgiven disappear. A hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of sinning souls exists.”

If the Pope indeed said those words, the consequences would be catastrophic for the Catholic Church, which — according to its own catechism — “affirms the teaching of hell and its eternity,” including “eternal fire,” although it stresses that the “The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God.”

The Vatican immediately critiqued Scalfari’s account, saying the quotes in the article were not “a faithful transcription of the Holy Father’s words.”

This is not the first time Scalfari — an avowed atheist — has published a controversial statement attributed to Pope Francis, only for the Vatican to walk it back. Francis’s continued relationship with Scalfari, despite these controversies, says as much about Francis’s unorthodox approach to the media as it does about Francis’s theology.

Scalfari and the pope have a longstanding history

Scalfari — a longtime friend and intellectual sparring partner of Pope Francis — has frequently boasted of his unorthodox interviewing methods. Scalfari neither uses a recording device, nor does he take notes. Rather, he reconstructs his conversations with the pope from memory, something that has gotten Scalfari into hot water with the Vatican in the past.

In a 2013 interview with Scalfari, the pope dismissed attempts at converting non-Catholics to the faith as “solemn nonsense” and said “there is no Catholic God.” The Vatican subsequently quietly removed the text of the interview from its website, where it typically features all papal interviews. In 2015, Scalfari reported that Francis wondered aloud if sinners would be “annihilated” instead of damned. (The Vatican denied the quotes should be considered “official texts,” because they had not been recorded, and did not feature the exchange on their website.)

In a separate conversation Scalfari attributed to Francis the idea that “all the divorced who asked [for the Eucharist], would be admitted,” a statement which the Vatican promptly denied had ever been made. (Francis has long quietly advocated for divorced and remarried Catholics to be able to receive the Eucharist, something Church teaching currently forbids).

Pope Francis’s relationship with Scalfari has made life difficult for the Vatican communications department

The question of whether Francis did indeed imply there is no hell is, therefore, subordinate to a bigger question: Why does Francis repeatedly engage in interviews with Scalfari, only to later say Scalfari misquotes his words? Catholic columnist Ross Douthat, whose To Change the Church: Pope Francis and the Future of Catholicism came out this week, interprets Francis’s friendship with Scalfari as a kind of “back door” form of information dissemination. By speaking to Scalfari, Douthat notes, Francis can explore (and, to an extent, “leak” to the public) unorthodox theological ideas while maintaining a veneer of plausible deniability.

“Francis,” Douthat writes, “[sees] an advantage in this sort of deliberately unreliable communication — whether as a form of freewheeling dialogue with a nonbeliever, a means to communicate very informally to supporters, or simply a way to talk casually without the strictures that an actual interview transcript would impose.”

Certainly, given Scalfari’s track record, it’s unlikely Francis was unaware of the likelihood that he would be quoted (or misquoted) on sensitive topics. His choice to be interviewed by Scalfari, therefore, is as significant as the exact content of the words the two of them exchanged.

Francis’s attributed views aren’t totally unheard of among Christians

Francis’s reported dismissal of hell ties into a wider theme of his pontificate: celebrating God’s mercy over God’s judgment. And, theologically speaking, Francis’s attributed views are not totally out of left field. Within the wider Christian tradition, theologians have responded to the idea of hell in a variety of ways beyond the traditional view of a “lake of fire.” Alternate interpretations include universal reconciliation (the idea that all souls are ultimately saved) or annihilationism (the idea that unredeemed souls cease to exist).

In the early church of the second, third, and fourth centuries CE — a time of dynamic intellectual inquiry in which church doctrine had not yet reached a codified form — theologians frequently embraced different approaches. Origen of Alexandria and Gregory of Nyssa subscribed to reconciliationist views, for example, while Irenaeus of Lyons took a stance that could be considered annihilationist. In the fifth century, Christian doctrines of hell became more streamlined, in part due to the monumental influence of St. Augustine of Hippo. But, from the mid-19th century onward, modern theologians have been revisiting the idea of a hell that doesn’t look like something out of Michelangelo’s “Last Judgement.”

In the 20th century alone, theologians as important as the Reformed Swiss theologian Karl Barth to Lutheran existentialist Paul Tillich to the evangelical Clark Pinnock have explored various models of hell and damnation that challenge or transcend the popular notion of “eternal fire and brimstone.”

Still, most of these modern theologians largely come from Protestant traditions, which lack the same formalized structure and codified doctrine as the Catholic Church. That said, some recent major Catholic thinkers have indeed pushed back on the idea of hell as popularly understood. In the 1980s, Swiss theologian Hans Urs von Balthasar, for example, flirted with reconciliation in his book Dare We Hope That All Men Be Saved?, while controversial Catholic theologian Hans Kung’s 1984 Eternal Life suggested hell should be understood only as the absence of God, not physical torment. But the formal nature of the Catholic catechism has made any official papal pronouncement on the matter tricky.

Francis’s “doublespeak” puts him in a precarious spot

But by participating in a kind of bait and switch — putting forth potentially heretical ideas, then formally denying them — Francis leaves himself open to the charge of disingenuousness. He’s able to signal sympathy for progressive theology, but does not have the responsibility of answering to conservatives or formally advocating for doctrinal change. It’s a canny political move, but one that destabilizes the nature of the Catholic Church as a centralized, formal body: the very thing that sets the Catholic Church apart from other Western Christian denominations.

As I’ve written previously, Francis’s distaste for the bureaucracy of the Catholic Church, and his willingness to engage the secular media to get his message across, can be both a benefit and a drawback to his papacy. Sometimes, his willingness to “go rogue” can be effective. His words to LGBTQ individuals, for example, when he asked “who am I to judge?” managed to offer comfort to people in need without challenging official Church doctrine.

But in this case, Francis may have gone too far in riling his conservative critics while directly challenging church orthodoxy. While the Vatican’s solution to the growing controversy has been to deny — once again — Francis and Scalfari’s exchange, Francis’s consistent reliance on Scalfari as a potential mouthpiece for heterodox thought renders each denial a little less plausible.
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Re: The War on Christians
« Reply #388 on: April 13, 2018, 10:27:35 am »
That is neither a Catholic nor Christian doctrine. May be an SPLC talking point, though.

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Re: The War on Christians
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Not interested in any doctrine, only facts.

God is the source of all truth. So if you want facts, come to him and the Bible, the portal of truth to this dark, ignorant world.
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« Reply #391 on: April 13, 2018, 11:34:05 am »
Heaven and Hell existing. From our believe in God and  deeds depends witch door we will open after death.

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Evangelicals to Discuss Trump Presidency, Future
« Reply #392 on: April 14, 2018, 12:55:18 am »

Left-of-center Christians want to reclaim term ‘evangelical’ from those who support the president and his agenda.

Several dozen evangelical faith leaders are slated to meet next week at Wheaton College to discuss what the Donald Trump presidency means for the future of Christian evangelicalism.

The invitation-only meeting will feature 50 “evangelical scholars, pastors, and activists”—most of whom are left-of-center politically and who have publicly expressed their dissatisfaction with the president. Their goal is to shake the notion that evangelicals are “pro-Trump Christians.”

The term “evangelical” is already defined, and means any Christian who holds to the following core beliefs:

• The Bible is the highest authority regarding his or her beliefs;

• It is personally important to encourage non-believers to trust Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior;

• Jesus’ death on the cross is the only sacrifice by which his or her penalty for sin is removed; and

• Only those who trust in Jesus Christ alone as their Lord and Savior can receive eternal salvation.

According to The Washington Post, plans for the meeting have been “in the works” for the past several months, and included discussions “on the sidelines” of the Rev. Billy Graham’s funeral last month.

Not a single member of the president’s evangelical advisory council has been invited to attend the event. However, several participants signed onto a declaration during the 2016 presidential campaign that declared the president is a racist bigot.

While a solid argument could be made that those who tread to the left of center politically may not meet the first defining characteristic of an evangelical Christian, The Washington Post’s report suggests the meeting’s organizers plan to plow ahead. They claim, however, the meeting isn’t about Trump—but rather that the president will merely be “the elephant in the room.”

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Re: The War on Christians on Kosovo
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Kosovo: Albanians harass Serb children in school playground

A group of Albanians on Tuesday insulted and threatened Serb children in a school playground in Suvi Do, near the town of Lipljan, b92.net has learned.

Source: B92 Wednesday, June 6, 2018 | 09:59

Our reporter said that the Albanians in question "showed the children the middle finger and uttered obscenities in Albanian and English" - telling them also that there was "no place for them in Kosovo, as it was Albanian territory."

The Albanians then used crowbars to demolish two doors on the school building. The children called their parents, who reported the incident to the Kosovo police.

The Albanians fled the scene in a black vehicle.

The children were ten-year-olds who were "visibly distressed," the school's headmaster, Bratislav Djedovic, said after the incident.

The information service of the municipality of Gracanica said they learned that the police soon after detained four Albanian men, up to 20 years of age - all of them, according to a statement, hailing from the vicinity of Gracanica.

However, the Kosovo police issued a statement of its own, and assessed that the incident had no "inter-ethnic" background. Each such act is criminal, regardless of who commits it, they said.

This was the second similar incident in a week - it took place after a group of Albanians charged against Serb children playing in a village playground in Staro Gracko.

A number of incidents, in some cases resulting in injuries, has occurred lately in Kosovo and Metohija, when Albanians attacked Serbs, including children.

On Tuesday, the Kosovo government expressed its concern, and condemned what they termed to be "inter-ethnic incidents."