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Biden; It is the right of government to determine what weapons public can own.
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2013, 12:06:19 am »
LANSDOWNE, Va. — In a speech Wednesday night, Vice President Joe Biden implored House Democrats to continue to fight for gun control legislation despite the potential political ramifications of doing so.

Biden was visibly emotional as he spoke of the December school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that took the lives of 20 children and six adults and called it a “profound loss” for America.
“I can imagine how we will be judged as individuals, we will be judged as a Congress, we will be judged as a nation if we do nothing,” Biden told House Democrats at their retreat in Lansdowne, Va. “It’s simply unacceptable.”

The vice president said he rejected those who would say the political risk “is too high, the outcome is too certain.”

His voice rising, Biden said that in the 54 days since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, there have been 1,600 shooting deaths, and specifically mentioned the death of Hadiya Pendleton, a Chicago teenager who had marched in the inauguration parade only a few weeks ago.

“Enough is enough is enough,” he said to applause from House Democrats, who are spending three days at the Virginia retreat. President Obama and former President Bill Clinton will also address the group.

“Many of you have scars on your back like I do from having acted, attempted to act, and contining to try act to deal with the senseless gun violence in America,” he said.

The former Delaware senator recalled the 1994 bill he helped craft, that included a now-expired federal assault weapons ban, and shortly after they passed it, Democrats “lost the Congress.”

“Some people attribute that to the tough stands people had to take, particularly on the assault weapons ban,” he said. “People have walked away learning the wrong lesson from that saying, ‘You know what? It’s demonstrable but it’s too risky to take on some of this stuff because look what happened last time we did this.’”

Biden declared that the world had changed, as had public attitudes on gun control. Additionally, through things like social media, “the ability to misrepresent our positions has changed.”

He also said there was not a simple solution to the problem of mass shootings: Biden said there was “no single answer to ensure this will never happen again.”

The vice president has been charged with leading the President’s task force on gun violence prevention. He told the members attending the retreat that he was unwavering in his belief that the recommendations the task force has put forward are not in violation of the Second Amendment.

“It is clearly within the right of the government to determine what type of weapons can be owned by the public.”

“Don’t tell me because we can’t solve it all, we can’t act at all. … when people tell me you cant prevent these kinds of occurrences that doesn’t mean we can’t do something so god forbids if it happens again, diminish the carnage,” he said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/joe-biden-pushes-house-dems-on-gun-control-87298.html#ixzz2KG6FPq00
You can't make up this SH*T!!

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There's that thunderous applause thing again.
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Someone ought to tell him something about restraint and the Constitution.
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Why would Congress listen to someone who should be impeached?

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“It is clearly within the right of the government to determine what type of weapons can be owned by the public.” 

This is exactly the global UN social engineering view:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07/11/un-arms-treaty-could-put-us-gun-owners-in-foreign-sights-say-critics/
UN arms treaty could put U.S. gun owners in foreign sights, say critics
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the National Rifle Association’s Wayne LaPierre, warn the treaty would mark a major step toward the eventual erosion of the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment gun-ownership rights.
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They’re trying to impose a UN policy that gives guns to the governments – but the UN doesn’t in turn make moral judgments as to whether these governments are good or bad,” he said.
 
If you’re the government, you get the guns, if you’re a civilian, you don’t. But this will just end up helping evil governments and tyrants.”
 
For LaPierre, the emphasis he sees at the UN on governmental rights reflects what he believes is a wider international tradition that contrasts with the historical American emphasis on individual rights.
 
“The UN view is that governments – not individual citizens – ought to protect people,” he said, signaling that this principle permeates the draft that negotiators are currently working with.
 
LaPierre says the treaty that is likely to emerge will have the effect of squeezing individual gun owners in the United States and elsewhere by imposing on them an onerous collection of regulations.
 
“If they get this through, then what comes along is the institutionalizing of the whole gun control-ban movement within the bureaucracy of UN – with a permanent funding mechanism that we [in America] will be mainly paying for,” he said.
 
“The world’s worst human rights abusers will end up voting for this, while the Obama administration has not drawn a line in the sand like the previous administration did. Instead, it is trying to be a part of this train wreck because they think they can somehow finesse it. But, to me, there is no finessing the individual freedoms of American citizens.”

UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2013, 10:45:04 am »
Just a month away!~~~

Trot out a few more Crazy Clown Killers - make them beg for gun control with Delphi town hall meetings
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What an unAmerican statement.

The government does not have any rights.

Government has responsibilities.

Responsibilities delegated by the People.

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2013, 01:40:12 pm »
Another two weeks!
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2013, 07:43:23 pm »
Just a week away!

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2013, 08:13:03 pm »
Yep, Treaties are the secret tool the globalists are using  to trump the Constitution, Sovereignty,  and Americans rights! The author at the link warned us of this in 1999!

THE UN IS BEHIND MOST OF THESE TREATIES!


http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=7127
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2013, 08:21:20 pm »


  Americans are not going to follow unconstitutional laws.

  What makes these morons in DC think we are going to follow UN laws or treaties?

  The UN is a cancer on the USA and the rest of the world.

  The UN needs to be dissolved.

  Feinstein and any other lawmaker trying to take our 2nd amendment needs to either be impeached or resign or retire.
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2013, 08:42:30 pm »

  What makes these morons in DC think we are going to follow UN laws or treaties?



They have been signing and agreeing to these treaties through the UN for decades! Now they are silently using those treaties to tell the US they must do this or that because you signed a treaty!

It's pure deceit and most haven't a clue that is their tactic! This is in the book I linked!

Coming Collision: Global Law Vs. Us Liberties by James Hirsen

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=10968&hl=
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=11002&hl=

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2013, 08:44:45 pm »
They have been signing and agreeing to these treaties through the UN for decades! Now they are silently using those treaties to tell the US they must do this or that because you signed a treaty!

It's pure deceit and most haven't a clue that is their tactic! This is in the book I linked!

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=10968&hl=





  What you said is true.  Thank you for the link.
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2013, 09:29:21 pm »
It is Treason plain and simple
What do you under-stand?

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2013, 12:37:21 pm »
aj mentioned today:

Department of State Publication 7277

FREEDOM  FROM WAR   

THE UNITED STATES PROGRAM
FOR GENERAL AND COMPLETE
DISARMAMENT IN A PEACEFUL
WORLD

 


http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html


  This is pie-in-the-sky stuff.  The stuff of dreams.  The UN has been at work since before WW2 ended and the world is in a lot worse shape.

  This program is for one purpose--control.

  Peaceful world---what a joke.
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2013, 12:55:09 pm »
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/read-un-small-arms-treaty-march-18-28-2013-if-ratified-the-2nd-amendment-will-be-gone/36850/
Read UN Small Arms Treaty: March 18 – 28 2013, If Ratified, The 2nd Amendment Will Be Gone
Posted on March 5, 2013 by # 1 NWO Hatr
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What many Americans don’t realize is that there is one more UN Small arms meeting coming to America’s shores this coming March 18th through the 28th. Could this be the end of private gun ownership in America as we know it?
 
Reuters reports that within hours of his securing his reelection, President Obama ordered the U.S. United Nations delegation to vote in favor of a UN proposal to fast track an international gun control treaty.
 
The United Nations Final Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty will take place at the United Nations Headquarters in New York on 18-28 March 2013.

The first round of negotiations took place in July 2012, but did not result in an agreement on a treaty text.   The UN is a stealth organization, their small arms treaty is not only to stop arms trade between countries, but to disarm the American citizens. They feel the US citizens do not have a human right to own these small arms as you will see from this video.

They even have UNICEF collecting money for them and supporting their gun control agenda for the American people.  

Could this be the American gun owners against the world? If they ratify this UN Small Arms treaty in March, could it be the end of gun ownership in America?  Watch this video and you decide. Are you prepared?

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/read-un-small-arms-treaty-march-18-28-2013-if-ratified-the-2nd-amendment-will-be-gone/36850/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zzqkbRitzfY

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/03/read-un-small-arms-treaty-march-18-28-2013-if-ratified-the-2nd-amendment-will-be-gone-video-2498844.html
Read UN Small Arms Treaty: March 18 – 28 2013, If Ratified, The 2nd Amendment Will Be Gone (Video)
 Monday, March 4, 2013 18:37

Many Americans can feel the tension in the air lately. With all the military maneuvers, military equipment being transported around the nation.
 
Then people are asking why all the UN Vehicles in the US?
 
   Today it was announce that the Department Of Homeland Security just purchased 2700 MRAP'S , Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles. On top of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. It sure seems something big is about to happen. Add the Obama administrations relentless desire to disarm America and could this be the makings of a revolution, a civil war to come?
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After you strip away all of the flowery language of this treaty, it comes down to a completely open-ended attempt to put United Nations bureaucrats in charge of firearms policy worldwide, usurping the authority of countries to set their own policies.
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2013, 01:00:28 pm »
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/read-un-small-arms-treaty-march-18-28-2013-if-ratified-the-2nd-amendment-will-be-gone/36850/
Read UN Small Arms Treaty: March 18 – 28 2013, If Ratified, The 2nd Amendment Will Be Gone
Posted on March 5, 2013 by # 1 NWO Hatr
...

What many Americans don’t realize is that there is one more UN Small arms meeting coming to America’s shores this coming March 18th through the 28th. Could this be the end of private gun ownership in America as we know it?
 
Reuters reports that within hours of his securing his reelection, President Obama ordered the U.S. United Nations delegation to vote in favor of a UN proposal to fast track an international gun control treaty.
 
The United Nations Final Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty will take place at the United Nations Headquarters in New York on 18-28 March 2013.

The first round of negotiations took place in July 2012, but did not result in an agreement on a treaty text.   The UN is a stealth organization, their small arms treaty is not only to stop arms trade between countries, but to disarm the American citizens. They feel the US citizens do not have a human right to own these small arms as you will see from this video.

They even have UNICEF collecting money for them and supporting their gun control agenda for the American people.   

Could this be the American gun owners against the world? If they ratify this UN Small Arms treaty in March, could it be the end of gun ownership in America?  Watch this video and you decide. Are you prepared?

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/read-un-small-arms-treaty-march-18-28-2013-if-ratified-the-2nd-amendment-will-be-gone/36850/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zzqkbRitzfY

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/03/read-un-small-arms-treaty-march-18-28-2013-if-ratified-the-2nd-amendment-will-be-gone-video-2498844.html
Read UN Small Arms Treaty: March 18 – 28 2013, If Ratified, The 2nd Amendment Will Be Gone (Video)
 Monday, March 4, 2013 18:37

Many Americans can feel the tension in the air lately. With all the military maneuvers, military equipment being transported around the nation.
 
Then people are asking why all the UN Vehicles in the US?
 
   Today it was announce that the Department Of Homeland Security just purchased 2700 MRAP'S , Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles. On top of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. It sure seems something big is about to happen. Add the Obama administrations relentless desire to disarm America and could this be the makings of a revolution, a civil war to come?
,...

After you strip away all of the flowery language of this treaty, it comes down to a completely open-ended attempt to put United Nations bureaucrats in charge of firearms policy worldwide, usurping the authority of countries to set their own policies.

  Thank you TahoeBlue.

  Well here in Montana, people are not going to follow the UN, no matter what.  End of discussion. 

  I hate to say it, but we are headed for 1776 part 2.
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2013, 01:05:41 pm »
Oby's U.N.
Some unprecedented news, folks. Never in the history of the United Nations has a U.S. President taken the chairmanship of the powerful UN Security Council. Perhaps it is because of what could arguably be a Constitutional prohibition against doing so. To wit: Section 9 of the Constitution says:
Rense.com:SC
  No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
  So much for the constitution. The United Nations, NATO troops, DHS agents, Mercs deputized, FBI, NSA, CIA, US Armed Forces etc. etc. are being led by the nose.
  George Washington and his mates turned on the slave masters, please remember he was an officer in the Brit Forces before he realized he was being whored out. My point,given that example as a rule of thumb it would be necessary for a percent on the inside to find the courage to stand up.
 If mobs, riots, and peons killing peons is what they are after , it seems to me some of the brass with a tad of honor are needed to restore the Republic along with awakened Americans before it's to late.
  Otherwise the parasites will go to their well protected command centers and be entertained watching  the bloodbath. (sacrificial lambs).            A Psycho Fest.

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2013, 01:09:27 pm »
http://openstates.org/mt/bills/2013/SJ9/documents/MTD00007141/
  This Montana Bill is probably dead.  A group I work with were trying to get it through.  It is worth reading.


2013 Montana Legislature
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SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 9
INTRODUCED BY J. TAYLOR
 
A JOINT RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE STATE OF MONTANA PROVIDING THAT THE STATE OF MONTANA OR ANY OF ITS POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS ARE URGED NOT TO ADOPT OR IMPLEMENT POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ORIGINATING FROM THE UNITED NATIONS THAT INFRINGE UPON OR RESTRICT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW.
 
    WHEREAS, the United Nations is an international organization that supports comprehensive plans and policies of extreme environmentalism, social engineering, and global control; and
     WHEREAS, these plans and policies are being covertly pushed into local communities throughout the United States through various councils, initiatives, and projects; and
     WHEREAS, private property ownership and due process of law are fundamental rights protected by the United States and Montana Constitutions; and
     WHEREAS, United Nations policies and the activities that support and promote these policies threaten private property rights and due process of law guarantees.
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:
     That the State of Montana or any of its political subdivisions are urged not to adopt or implement policy recommendations originating from the United Nations that infringe upon or restrict private property rights without due process of law.

     BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a copy of this resolution be sent to the Governor of the State of Montana and to each member of the Montana Congressional Delegation.
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2013, 05:26:59 pm »
http://openstates.org/mt/bills/2013/SJ9/documents/MTD00007141/
  This Montana Bill is probably dead.  A group I work with were trying to get it through.  It is worth reading.
  It's a peice of art>Thanks larson, I hope the bill lives.

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« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2013, 11:43:30 am »
http://www.tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/news/domestic-usa/27521-nras-silence-on-un-arms-treaty-surprises-gun-control-campaigners.html
NRA's silence on UN arms treaty surprises gun control campaigners
09 March 2013

Last year, Wayne LaPierre led the charge to kill the world's first Arms Trade Treaty, but this time the NRA may be spread too thin
 
The National Rifle Association is so tied up fighting new gun restrictions in the wake of the Newtown shooting that it has failed so far to mount its expected lobbying blitz against a new international arms control control treaty.

With just a few weeks to go until the world's first Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) is put to a final vote at a UN conference in New York campaigners have voiced surprise at the NRA's relative silence on the issue. Until the Newtown tragedy, in which 20 young children died in their classrooms on 14 December, the UN's attempt to contain the loosely regulated international trade in weapons had been one of the gun lobby's biggest targets.

Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's executive vice president, personally addressed the previous ATT conference last July, telling the meeting that "no foreign influence has jurisdiction over the freedoms our Founding Fathers guaranteed to us".

When the negotiations broke down – in no small measure because of US resistance to the global regulations on weapons sales – the NRA gloated that this was "a big victory for American gun owners, and the NRA is being widely credited for killing the UN ATT".
 
More...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/09/nra-silence-un-arms-treaty
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The American Bar Association explored whether the arms treaty would impinge upon the Second Amendment of the US constitution and concluded in a report published last month that "the proposed ATT is consistent with the Second Amendment … the treaty would not require new domestic regulations of firearms."

Michelle Ringuette, Amnesty International USA's campaigns chief, said that the draft treaty clearly stated that US domestic law on guns would not be superseded.

{ Now thats is not true exactly since every single domestic weapon and domestic ammo would need to be tracked as a possible EXPORT weapon/ammo ... and would be required to be tracked by the UN treaty ,,, They are lying to you... }



The strengthened determination of the Obama administration, combined with the relative weakness of NRA opposition, gives the arms treaty the best chance of success than at any time since it was first mooted at the UN in 2006.

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2013, 12:07:39 pm »
Great Post! Thanks for sharing!

Please check this out too:

This is a petition I began because of the ammunition shortage in America. It is on the White House website under "We the People". Please read it and if you agree, sign it and pass it on to as many like minded people you can think of. Your rights depend on it. It is my believe that the weapons ban is a Red Herring and we are being disarmed without constitutional violation by the depletion of the ammunition supply to the general public. Even if you don't agree, thank you for taking the time to read this E-mail and I encourage you all to make inquiries and look up some of the staggering facts about this subject on your own. Googling "Government Stockpiling of Ammunition 2013" will get you started.

The petition requires 150 signatures before it will be open for public view on the White House website. It requires 100,000 signatures to be addressed publicly by the President of the United States. The deadline for achieving that goal is is April 7th 2013. A copy of this E-mail has been sent to the house and senate representatives for the state of Oregon.
Wishing you all good health and happiness,

Donnie

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2013, 10:07:11 pm »
Yes going after weapons will stop the violent behavior. Africa is a shinning example of how not an abundance of guns slows down mass brutal killing. Oh wait they were hacking each out to death with dull machetes or getting beaten to death with child's like cave men. Well I guess people will find a way to kill no mater what it just become a mater of what is a more violet way to go, me I would rather die fast than hacked to death and bled out.

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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #65 on: March 17, 2013, 04:45:10 pm »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/17/nra-un-panic-arms-treaty
NRA accused of stirring 'anti-UN panic' in campaign against Arms Trade Treaty

After silence spurred suggestion that gun group was too busy to oppose treaty,
activists step up opposition as conference opens

Karen McVeigh in New York
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 17 March 2013 15.51 EDT

The National Rifle Association is stepping up its opposition to a UN treaty aimed at halting the illicit trade of guns into conflict zones, after months of silence on the issue believed to be due to its focus on domestic gun control.

Human rights campaigners said that the resurgence of the NRA's campaign was designed to "stir up anti-UN panic" ahead of the UN conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, which opens on Monday in New York. The Obama administration indicated in a statement on Friday that it would sign the pact.

For years, the NRA has painted the UN as a bogeyman figure, claiming in its literature and fundraising drives that there is an international conspiracy to "grab your guns". Last July, when negotiations on the Arms Trade Treaty broke down – in part because of US resistance to global regulations on gun sales – the gun lobby group claimed victory for "killing the UN ATT".
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Tom Mason, the NRA's executive secretary and a lawyer who has represented the NRA at UN meetings for two decades, told the Washington Post on Sunday: "What we really object to is the inclusion of civilian firearms within the scope of the ATT."

"This is a treaty that really needs to address the transfer of large numbers of military weapons that leads to human rights abuses. We have submitted language that you can define what a civilian firearm is."

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In a statement issued on Friday, secretary of state John Kerry said: "The United States is steadfast in its commitment to achieve a strong and effective Arms Trade Treaty that helps address the adverse effects of the international arms trade on global peace and stability."

"We will not support any treaty that would be inconsistent with US law and the rights of American citizens under our constitution, including the Second Amendment."  [ blah blah blah,,,, ]
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Re: UN Small Arms Disarmament Treaty back-door - March 18 2013 New York
« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2013, 07:27:40 pm »
No UN treaty is accepted in the US unless it is approved by the Congress and that's not going to happen. I have a hard time keeping up with the people that want to take away our rights. It’s just amazing how many people that that are still so blind to it when they are being so out in the open with their actions. I think they would believe Obama if he said the Earth was flat and they were looking at a satellite photo.

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« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2013, 09:04:30 pm »
No UN treaty is accepted in the US unless it is approved by the Congress and that's not going to happen. I have a hard time keeping up with the people that want to take away our rights. It’s just amazing how many people that that are still so blind to it when they are being so out in the open with their actions. I think they would believe Obama if he said the Earth was flat and they were looking at a satellite photo.

The problem is that some of these treaties are being passed using Congressional-Executive Agreements (or presidential exec orders). This means they can get passed with just a majority present in the House and Senate (or by decree).

The Constitution says treaties must be passed in the Senate by 2/3 vote! That's hard to get, so they go for the easier methods above! This is a problem!

There are many UN Treaties that have been passed by unconventional means and much lying also involved. For example, they show part of the treaty to get a vote, then after passed they show the full scope. Then it's too late! Disgusting!  

Read about agenda 21 and the fraud taking land all over America under the guise of Heritage Sites, etc! The UN owns many of Americas sites and parks. The deceit is over the top!
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-896.pdf
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9817

Everyone needs to read this book which deals with this issue. Excellent book I just finished! The deception over decades is breathtaking! What they can't get the senate to do, they lie and use other methods! The UN is taking over and dumb congress just blindly goes along, and many times duped!  ::)
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=10968&view=getnewpost
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« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2013, 12:08:00 pm »
http://www.un.org/disarmament/HomePage/PressReleases/PR.shtml
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2013/dc3419.doc.htm

NEW YORK, 15 March (Office for Disarmament Affairs) — The United Nations Final Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty opens Monday, 18 March, at United Nations Headquarters in New York amid broad expectations of finally arriving at a successful outcome, which had eluded the Arms Trade Treaty Conference in July 2012.

Running from 18-28 March, the Final Conference aims to conclude negotiations on a treaty that would establish common international standards for the global trade in conventional arms, from small arms to artillery, combat aircraft or warships

With poorly regulated international arms transfers fuelling conflicts, destabilizing regions and empowering terrorists and criminal networks, the United Nations Secretary-General has described as a disgrace the absence of a multilateral treaty of global scope dealing with conventional arms.

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« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2013, 02:03:33 am »
http://www.un.org/disarmament/HomePage/PressReleases/PR.shtml
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2013/dc3419.doc.htm

NEW YORK, 15 March (Office for Disarmament Affairs) — The United Nations Final Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty opens Monday, 18 March, at United Nations Headquarters in New York amid broad expectations of finally arriving at a successful outcome, which had eluded the Arms Trade Treaty Conference in July 2012.

Running from 18-28 March, the Final Conference aims to conclude negotiations on a treaty that would establish common international standards for the global trade in conventional arms, from small arms to artillery, combat aircraft or warships

With poorly regulated international arms transfers fuelling conflicts, destabilizing regions and empowering terrorists and criminal networks, the United Nations Secretary-General has described as a disgrace the absence of a multilateral treaty of global scope dealing with conventional arms.


I couldn't see China or Russia agreeing to this because it would hurt them. That's most of their arms business is selling to the very people the UN trying to stop from getting the guns. Not that they would actually obay the treaty, we seem to be the only ones that do that.

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« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2013, 12:55:31 pm »
I couldn't see China or Russia agreeing to this because it would hurt them. That's most of their arms business is selling to the very people the UN trying to stop from getting the guns. Not that they would actually obay the treaty, we seem to be the only ones that do that.

As has been brought up in previous posts - This treaty would hurt U.S. citizens trying to purchace IMPORTed weapons such as italian Burretta's and other quality foreign weapons. Prices and availability would surely be affected!
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« Reply #71 on: March 19, 2013, 01:12:29 pm »
From a British perspective it would kill the British shooting/hunting culture, since a lot of ammunition, guns and components are imported from America, so if they sign the treaty then it is going to become more bureaucratic to import these guns, ammunition and gun components, killing the already small gun ownership in the UK.

If you live in the Uk it is important you give the Foreign Commonwealth office an email and urge them to not sign the UN treaty.
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/ministerial-feedback-form
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« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2013, 03:45:32 pm »
As has been brought up in previous posts - This treaty would hurt U.S. citizens trying to purchace IMPORTed weapons such as italian Burretta's and other quality foreign weapons. Prices and availability would surely be affected!

http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/weapons-and-markets/transfers/importers.html

Importers

An analysis of customs data suggests that for the period 2001 to 2007 five countries—Canada, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia, and the United States—routinely imported mall arms, light weapons, their parts, accessories, and ammunition worth USD 100 million or more per year. Customs data also suggests that eight additional countries imported at least USD 100 million or more in at least one year during this seven-year period: Australia, Cyprus, Egypt, Japan, the Netherlands, South Korea, Spain, and the United Kingdom. A review of customs data shows that Italy routinely imported more than USD 50 million per year from 2001 to 2007.
 
The United States is by far the biggest documented importer of small arms.

During the seven-year period under review, US imports ranged from USD 571 million (in 2002) to more than USD 1 billion (in 2007). The next-largest recorded importer was Germany, averaging USD 110 million. The largest single-year value recorded for imports by a country other than the United States during this seven-year period was USD 261 million by Saudi Arabia (in 2001).
 
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/about-us/mission.html



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« Reply #73 on: March 19, 2013, 04:32:17 pm »
oh just imagine you travelled to Mexico with say a shotgun.... and were sighted for a UN Arms treaty violation ?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/21/ex-marine-jailed-mexico/1785751/
Mexico frees ex-Marine jailed for bringing in gun

6:23a.m. EST December 22, 2012

MIAMI (AP) — A Marine veteran jailed for months in Mexico after trying to carry a family heirloom shotgun across the border has been freed, U.S. officials and his lawyer said late Friday.

The attorney for 27-year-old Jon Hammar tweeted Friday night that his client had been released from a detention center in Matamoros, Mexico.

"Jon is out, going home!" Eddie Varon Levy tweeted.

Patrick Ventrell, the acting deputy spokesman for the State Department, confirmed Hammer's release and return to the U.S. in a statement Friday night.

"Officials from the U.S. Consulate General in Matamoros met him at the prison and escorted him to the U.S. border, where he was reunited with members of his family," the statement said. "We sincerely appreciate the efforts on the part of Mexican authorities to ensure that an appropriate resolution was made in accordance with Mexican law, and that Mr. Hammar will be free to spend the holidays with his loved ones."
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"No American should be in a Mexican jail for five months without being able to have his case in front of a judge," Nelson said in that statement. "We're grateful; this is a good Christmas present."
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Civilian gun ownership is illegal under Mexican law unless the owner purchases the weapon from a special shop run by the country's Department of Defense.

"The Department of State warns all U.S. citizens against taking any type of firearm or ammunition into Mexico," the U.S. Embassy in Mexico writes on its website. "Entering Mexico with a firearm, certain types of knives, or even a single round of ammunition is illegal, even if the weapon or ammunition is taken into Mexico unintentionally."

Mexican law also bans shotguns with barrels of less than 25 inches. The family said Hammar's shotgun has a barrel of 24 inches.

Tourists are allowed to bring guns for hunting on rare occasions, but Mexican officials said all visitors must receive a special permit before entering the country. Mexican customs agents do not issue gun permits. As a result, anyone crossing the border with a firearm or ammunition without a previously issued government permit is in instant violation of Mexican law, which stipulates long jail terms for breaking weapons laws.
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His family said agents told them to fill out a form for the gun, which belonged to Hammar's great-grandfather.

But when the pair crossed the border and handed the paperwork to Mexican officials, they impounded the RV and jailed the men, saying it was illegal to carry that type of gun. Hammar's friend was later released because the gun did not belong to him.

Janet Napolitano denies knowing about “Fast and Furious” during operation.
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[ So why isn't Holder and Co. rotting in mexican jails? Why hasn't mexico indicted them for weapons violations? ]
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« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2013, 07:40:21 pm »
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/18/world/un-revives-effort-to-finalize-arms-treaty.html?_r=0

U.N. Revives Effort on Pact to Regulate Arms Trade
 By RICK GLADSTONE
 Published: March 17, 2013

In the shadow of the re-energized gun-control debate in the United States, negotiators at the United Nations will reconvene this week to try to reach a final agreement on a treaty to regulate the global trade in conventional weapons, a lucrative business that rights groups call the main source of illicit arms fueling deadly conflicts around the world.

“I am confident that member states will overcome their differences and muster the political will needed to agree on this landmark treaty,” the United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, said Thursday in a statement welcoming the resumed negotiations, which were suspended in disappointment eight months ago. They start again on Monday and are scheduled to conclude on March 28.
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Ban Ki-moon: Is he or isn't he a Moonie?

http://sundaytimes.lk/061008/International/int1.html
Ban Ki-moon’s ‘Moonie’ connection
By Wayne Madsen Report ( www.waynemadsenreport.com)

The Unification Church, the global enterprise of South Korean Rev. Sun Myung Moon (born Yong Myung Moon), may be attempting to take control of the United Nations through the all-but-certain election of South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon as UN Secretary General.

Foreign Minister Moon is slated to be formally elected Secretary General on October 9 by the UN Security Council. Moon has already won four straw polls by the UN Security Council and is now considered a shoo-in to replace Kofi Annan.
 
Ban Ki-moon: The next UN Secretary General.
Some informed UN sources are concerned that Moon lists his religious affiliation as "non-denominational Christian," a code word often used by the "Moonies" for the Unification Church.

In addition, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and UN ambassador John Bolton are attempting to have former Washington Times editor Josette Sheeran Shiner become the next Executive Director of the World Food Program. Sheeran Shiner is a member of Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. The term of the World Food Program Executive Director is five years. Shiner is currently the Under Secretary of State for Economic, Business and Agricultural Affairs.

Although Ban Ki-moon and Sun Myung Moon are not related, some UN members may sense that there is something amiss about the Bush administration's strong support for the South Korean Foreign Minister given the close links between some Bush officials and the "Moonies." There were a few "discourage" and "no opinion" ballots cast by Security Council members on Ban Ki-moon. Although the balloting is secret, it is believed that France and the United Kingdom are not thrilled with the Moon nomination and that Japan, a non-permanent member that holds the Security Council presidency for October, is also reportedly opposed to Moon

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/14837-kerry-supports-un-arms-treaty-as-nra-objects
Tuesday, 19 March 2013 17:10
Kerry Supports UN Arms Treaty as NRA Objects
Written by  Warren Mass

In a statement posted on the State Department website on March 15, Secretary of State John Kerry (shown) expressed U.S. support for the UN Arms Trade Treaty.
 
“The United States is steadfast in its commitment to achieve a strong and effective Arms Trade Treaty that helps address the adverse effects of the international arms trade on global peace and stability,” read the statement.
 
With obvious awareness of potential objections to any agreement entered into by the United States that would limit access to arms, Kerry’s statement carefully made a distinction between international and domestic arms exchanges:
 
The United States could only be party to an Arms Trade Treaty that addresses international transfers of conventional arms solely and does not impose any new requirements on the U.S. domestic trade in firearms or on U.S. exporters. We will not support any treaty that would be inconsistent with U.S. law and the rights of American citizens under our Constitution, including the Second Amendment.


Kerry’s statement was issued in advance of the UN Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which opened March 18 at UN headquarters in New York and will run through March 28. A statement posted on the conference website noted that this current event was called to conclude the work begun at the UN last July to establish an ATT. The website authors sought to reassure those who might have concerns about the ATT, saying that the treaty will not “interfere with the domestic arms trade and the way a country regulates civilian possession,” but will “aim to create a level playing field for international arms transfers by requiring all States to abide by a set of standards for transfer controls, which will ultimately benefit the safety and security of people everywhere in the world.” (Emphasis added.)
 
A March 15 report in The Hill quoted a statement from Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) in opposition to the ATT. “The United Nations’s Arms Trade Treaty contains unnecessarily harsh treatment of civilian-owned small arms, and I urge President Obama to reverse course and block any further negotiations,” Cornyn said on March 15. “Not only would it violate Texans’ Second Amendment rights, including the right to self-defense, it also raises U.S. sovereignty and national security concerns.”
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« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2013, 07:30:37 pm »
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/032013-648751-kerry-announces-support-of-arms-trade-treaty.htm


  "Traitor"Kerry Commits U.S. To U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Gun Grab


U.S. Rights: As the world body meets this week to hammer out an agreement to restrict international arms trade, our Secretary of State commits us to pushing a treaty that may also restrict our Second Amendment rights.

Last Friday, the day of the week when unpopular or controversial announcements are traditionally made, Secretary of State John Kerry announced U.S. support for the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), a final version of which is being hammered out in New York beginning this week.

Certainly the ATT is controversial. Touted as a means of getting a handle on an international arms trade valued at $60 billion a year, its stated purpose is to keep illicit weapons out of the hands of terrorists, insurgent fighters and organized crime at an international level.

Its vague and suspicious wording led some 150 members of Congress last June to send a letter to President Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warning that the treaty is "likely to pose significant threats to our national security, foreign policy and economic interests as well as our constitutional rights."

We have noted that a paper by the U.N.'s Coordinating Action on Small Arms (CASA) says that arms have been "misused by lawful owners" and that the "arms trade therefore be regulated in ways that would . .. minimize the misuse of legally owned weapons."
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« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2013, 08:07:45 pm »
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14848-un-arms-trade-treaty-day-2-focus-is-transfer-registry-of-firearms

Thursday, 21 March 2013 09:27
UN Arms Trade Treaty, Day Two: Focus Is Transfer, Registry of Firearms
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As the negotiations and presentations proceed, it becomes evident that many of the articles being drafted (or revised) contain provisions that would require the governments of member nations to track the transfer of weapons and ammunition within their sovereign borders.
 
One crucial step to implementing such tracking is the creation of a registry of gun owners. Without such a registry, it would be impossible to monitor weapon transfers effectively because governments can’t track weapons exchanges and transfers unless they know who has them to begin with.
 
Americans need to be aware that the trajectory toward the mandatory compilation of a gun owner registry is in the works here at the United Nations.
 
One can imagine the scenario if such an article makes it into the final version of the treaty, which is scheduled to be presented for ratification next Thursday.
 
Secretary Kerry and his fellow bureaucrats would insist that they tried valiantly to oppose the domestic tracking of gun transfers, but in the end, they decided to vote in favor of protecting the safety of citizens and preventing any further violence using guns, such as that witnessed in Newtown, Connecticut.
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As The New American reported recently, riots and murders that tormented Germany following the end of World War I were used by government officials to justify the banning of “military type weapons.” Year by year, the list of proscribed firearms grew, and the methods of enforcement grew more severe. The disarmament progressed until civilians were completely robbed of all rights of gun ownership, leaving them powerless to resist the rise of the Third Reich.
 
There are many Americans who refuse to believe that disarmament is the goal of those who are pushing for stricter and stricter gun laws. They assume that decreasing liberty is a fair price to pay for increasing safety.
 
This is naïve. History reveals that failure to monitor and oppose every movement — even small, seemingly insignificant, incremental ones — toward gun owner registry will result in outright confiscation. And history's ultimate and final lesson is that a disarmed society is a slave society, one powerless to oppose the brutal forced march toward tyranny.
 
 
Joe A. Wolverton, II, J.D. is a correspondent for The New American and travels frequently nationwide speaking on topics of nullification, the NDAA, and the surveillance state. He can be reached at [email protected].
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« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2013, 02:19:05 pm »
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/world/un-close-to-curbing-arms-trade-with-treaty.html?_r=0
U.N. Close to Curbing Arms Trade With Treaty
 By NEIL MacFARQUHAR and RICK GLADSTONE
 
Published: March 27, 2013

UNITED NATIONS — The effort over many years to forge an international treaty regulating the booming $70 billion annual trade in conventional weapons headed toward fruition on Wednesday with a final draft sent to the governments of all United Nations member states for approval.
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Big arms exporters, like Russia and China, initially raised questions about the provisions tying sales to human rights criteria that might be subject to interpretation. Last summer, the Obama administration raised objections to the treaty that helped to force postponement of the talks.

The National Rifle Association, along with its allies in Congress, has long opposed the treaty, asserting it would impinge on the constitutional right to bear arms, an argument that treaty proponents dispute.

The United States did not take an immediate public stand for or against the treaty’s final draft version.

One American official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the White House was reviewing the text, said it was being evaluated on the basis of several American goals.

The Obama administration wants a treaty that is “strong, effective and implementable and that helps address the adverse effects of the international arms trade on global peace and stability,” the official said, adding, that the United States “could only be party to an Arms Trade Treaty that addresses international transfers of conventional arms solely and does not impose any new requirements on the U.S. domestic trade in firearms or on U.S. exporters.” 
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http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/28/arms-trade-treaty-set-to-pass-united-nat
Arms Trade Treaty Set to Pass United Nations; “U.S. Virtually Certain to Go Along”

Ed Krayewski|Mar. 28, 2013 1:48 pm
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Ted Bromund, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, explained earlier this week that the most recent draft of the treaty meant for the United States; the adoption of a “knowledge standard” about humanitarian abuses means the U.S. could be investigated by the U.N. for what it ought to have known about who it was selling weapons too. More importantly for individual firearms owners, Bromund writes that the draft “still refers to ‘end users’—individual firearm owners—in Article 11. It effectively makes the definitions of arms contained in the U.N. Register of Conventional Arms nationally binding, which turns part of this voluntary program into a binding treaty commitment and would increase the pressure on the U.S. to include small arms in the formal register.” At Fox News, John Lott says the “national control list” the treaty wants each country to maintain could be used to regulate domestic firearm ownership.
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« Reply #78 on: April 01, 2013, 06:50:34 pm »
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/03/26/senate-votes-to-block-un-arms-trade-treaty/
Senate Votes to Block UN Arms Trade Treaty

During the Senate’s passing of their (congressional budget) Concurrent Resolution 8 on March 23, Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe successfully inserted Senate amendment 139 to “prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.” (Text of bills can be retrieved from Library of Congress “Thomas” site.)
 
In a 53-49 vote, the Senate passed Inhofe’s amendment. The list of Yeas and Nays is what’s important going forward, and contains both good news and a warning.

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Now the bad news: Joe Manchin has been working with Senator Schumer on universal background checks. This is an important step towards federal registration, since Senator Schumer’s bill requires permanent retention of sales records. Senator Tom Coburn, the other Oklahoma senator, has also interacted with Schumer, and has stated that “enhanced” background checks are “the right thing to do.”
 
Montana Senator Max Baucus claims he’s against the Schumer bill, but Baucus voted against passing Inhofe’s UN Treaty ban.
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« Reply #79 on: April 01, 2013, 06:54:08 pm »
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/03/26/senate-votes-to-block-un-arms-trade-treaty/

Senate Votes to Block UN Arms Trade Treaty

During the Senate’s passing of their (congressional budget) Concurrent Resolution 8 on March 23, Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe successfully inserted Senate amendment 139 to “prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.” (Text of bills can be retrieved from Library of Congress “Thomas” site.)
 
In a 53-49 vote, the Senate passed Inhofe’s amendment. The list of Yeas and Nays is what’s important going forward, and contains both good news and a warning.

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Now the bad news: Joe Manchin has been working with Senator Schumer on universal background checks. This is an important step towards federal registration, since Senator Schumer’s bill requires permanent retention of sales records. Senator Tom Coburn, the other Oklahoma senator, has also interacted with Schumer, and has stated that “enhanced” background checks are “the right thing to do.”
 
Montana Senator Max Baucus claims he’s against the Schumer bill, but Baucus voted against passing Inhofe’s UN Treaty ban.
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