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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2009, 02:46:59 pm »
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2009, 02:54:03 pm »
The Power Elite: Enron and Frank Wisner
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2009, 03:08:41 pm »
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Under Secretary Frank Wisner is son of CIA suicided mockingbird architect Frank Wisner.  Jr. is also Vice Chairman or AIG and went to Princeton (Cap and Gowns).

So we have Kissinger, Wisner, Lake, Brzezinski

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Research that article, it is amazing: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/02/01/18476217.php
More on Wisner, Jr.: http://www.nndb.com/people/808/000120448/
The f**king nepatism is nuts

Frank Wisner.  Jr = Bilderberg :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20256475/Bilderberg-Meetings-Participant-Lists-1954-2009
BILDERBERG MEETINGS GLENEAGLES CONFERENCE 25-27 April 1986
USA Frank G. Wisner Deputy Assistant Secretary for African Affairs, Department of State

also - June 2-5 1994
USA Frank G. Wisner Under Secretary for Policy, Department of Defense
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2009, 03:26:13 pm »
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After the war, Jackson became Managing Director of Time-Life International.

In 1948 Frank Wisner, who worked with Jackson in the OSS, was appointed as director of the Office of Special Projects. Soon afterwards it was renamed the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). This became the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency.

http://www.isgp.eu/organisations/introduction/PEHI_David_Rockefeller_bio.htm

http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/2007/08/david-rockerfeller-roggenfelder.html
David Rockefeller
Assistant regional director of the United States Office of Defense, Health and Welfare Service 1941-1942. Enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1942. Military Intelligence officer in North Africa and Southern France 1942-1945. Set up an intelligence network in Algiers and was an insider to the battle between Charles De Gaulle and Henri Giraud for control over the French resistance. First became friends with William Paley (Pilgrims) and C.D. Jackson in Algiers.
Met with ambassador Robert Murphy, a staunch Giraud supporter. Met David Bruce in 1945, head of the OSS. He would meet Bruce and his wife again in 1973 in China, where he would be invited for dinner.


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The papers of C.D. Jackson were deposited in the Dwight D. Eisenhower Library in February 1972. On December 15, 1971, Mrs. C.D. Jackson executed an instrument of gift for these papers.

Special Restriction:
Permission of Time Incorporated is required to cite or quote materials originated by any individual in his capacity as an official of Time Incorporated.

SCOPE AND CONTENT NOTE

The papers of Charles Douglas Jackson cover the period from 1931 to 1967 but the bulk falls into the years from 1940-1964. The papers were sent to the Eisenhower Library arranged in two series: an army file and a general file. This original order has been retained by the Library.

Almost a fourth of this collection concerns C.D. Jackson's psychological warfare activities during World War II when Jackson, representing the Office of War Information (OWI), served as Deputy Chief, Psychological Warfare Branch (PWB), Allied Forces Headquarters (AFHQ) in 1943, and Deputy Chief, Psychological Warfare Division (PWD), Supreme Headquarters, Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF), 1944-45.

At AFHQ in Algiers, he directed OWI propaganda leaflet and newswriting activities, and in London with PWD, SHAEF, he participated in Allied efforts to arouse the conquered people of Europe against the Germans. During the late stages of the war Jackson directed the Allied Information Service which distributed information about the Allies' war efforts to France and other liberated areas.

This portion of the collection consists of official correspondence, memoranda, cables, reports, and propaganda leaflets which reflect the shaping of Allied psychological warfare policies, as well as some personal correspondence, newsclippings, and miscellaneous materials. Important subjects include propaganda methods, Allied liberation of France and relations with the French, information control in Allied- occupied Germany, OWI functions, civil affairs, displaced persons, and the surrender of Italy.

Prominent "psychwar" personnel with whom C.D. Jackson corresponded include Richard Crossman, Brigadier General Robert McClure, Edward Barrett, and Fred Auberjonois.

The remainder of these papers fall into an alphabetically arranged General File or Time Inc. File which spans Jackson's career with Time Inc. from 1931 to his death in 1964. Following is a partial list of his positions and functions during this period: Vice President, Time Incorporated, 1940; President of Council for Democracy, 1940; Special Assistant to the U.S. Ambassador to Turkey, 1942-43; President of the Free Europe Committee (this directed Radio Free Europe) 1951-52; Speechwriter for Dwight D. Eisenhower during his campaign for the Presidency in 1952; Special Assistant to the President for International Affairs, 1953-54; U.S. Delegate to the Ninth General Assembly of the United Nations, 1954; speechwriter and consultant to President Eisenhower during the Lebanon Crisis of 1958; and unofficial consultant to the President on other occasions.

In his long career with Time Incorporated Jackson served as one of Henry Luce's vice presidents; supervised overseas activities of Time Inc. during the late 1940s; became publisher of Fortune and, later, Life; gave numerous speeches; and conducted other public relations functions. Some of these activities are reflected in his correspondence with Henry Luce and John K. Jessup, as well as in his extensive speech file.

Jackson was an ardent believer in the virtues of American democracy and free enterprise and a staunch opponent of communism and fascism. As President of the Council for Democracy in 1940, he participated in an organization whose objectives were to alert American people to the threats of nazism and fascism and to prepare them for involvement in World War II. Included in these papers are meeting minutes, memoranda, and correspondence concerning this organization.

After World War II Jackson became strongly sympathetic to the plight of Eastern European countries under communist domination and was an active participant in Radio Free Europe from the time of its founding in 1949 until his death in 1964. Folders of official Radio Free Europe papers as well as correspondence with individuals in the organization comprise a small but significant part of this collection.

As Special Assistant to the President for International Affairs, Jackson was concerned with furnishing ideas to the President, the Secretary of State, and other policy makers on scoring propaganda points against the Soviet bloc. In carrying out this role, Jackson took the lead in preparing President Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace speech which the President gave at the United Nations on December 8, 1953. Jackson also helped prepare other foreign policy speeches, participated in National Security Council and Operations Coordinating Board meetings, and attended the Bermuda Conference in December 1953 and the Berlin Four Power Conference, January 25 to February 18, 1954.

Although he resigned from the White House staff in 1954, Jackson continued to correspond and occasionally consult with President Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles, and others in the Administration and, in 1958, returned to the White House to serve as a consultant and speechwriter for the President during the Lebanon crisis. In his correspondence, Jackson continually pushed a plan for massive United States economic assistance to underdeveloped countries.

In addition to his political, diplomatic, and publishing activities, Jackson participated in numerous business, cultural, and social undertakings. For example, as a member of the Board of Trustees for the U.S. Council of the International Chamber of Commerce he was an energetic participant in this organization's efforts to promote business support for the European Recovery program during the late 1940s and early 1950s. As a member of the board of the Metropolitan Opera Association he helped plan for a new building site, and was involved in planning for the construction of the Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts. Jackson was also on the boards of the Boston Symphony Orchestra, the United Negro College Fund, and the Carnegie Corporation.

Jackson's papers reflect all of the above-listed activities of Jackson as well as many others. Types of material include official and personal correspondence, reports, memoranda, transcripts of conversations, speeches, and some printed matter. An important segment is entitled "Log" and is arranged by years (1953 to 1964). This log originated as a brief daily record dictated by Jackson during his first year at the White House. After he left the government this log became more of a file for especially important correspondence, memos, and transcripts of conversations. It may be said that this log contains a record of the highlights of the years concerned.

A large number of photographs were removed from this collection and turned over to the Dwight D. Eisenhower Audio- Visual Collection.

Description of Series
Container Nos. Series 1-22 Army File, 1943-45. 22 Containers. Arranged alphabetically by name or subject and consists of correspondence, memoranda, cables, reports, directives, leaflets, surveys, and printed matter. Boxes 15-22 contain reduced photographic copies of documents. Includes a half-suitbox of oversize material.
23-96 General File or Time Inc. File, 1931-1967. 74 boxes. Arranged alphabetically by name or subject. Contains correspondence memoranda, reports, transcripts of conversations, speeches, newsclippings, and printed matter. Includes one suitbox containing a scrapbook.


Biographical Note

1902, March 16  Born, New York City
1924            A.B., Princeton University
1924-31         President, C.D. Jackson & Co. [marble and stone import business]
1931            Appointed Assistant to President of Time Inc.
1940            President of Council for Democracy
1942-43         Special Assistant to U.S. Ambassador to Turkey     [Steinhardt]
1943-44         Deputy Chief, P.W.B., AFHQ
1944-45         Deputy Chief, PWD, SHAEF
1945            Managing Director, Time-Life International
1949            Publisher, Fortune Magazine
1951-52         President, Free Europe Committee
1952            Speechwriter for Dwight D. Eisenhower
1953-54         Special Assistant to President for International Affairs
1954            U.S. Delegate to Ninth General Assembly, United Nations
1958            Speechwriter and consultant to President Eisenhower
1960            Became publisher of Life Magazine
1964, Sept. 18  Died, New York City
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2009, 05:53:00 pm »
One Nexus that is rarely dicussed is  George ("Oswald's best friend") and Dimitri Von Mohrenschildt. George later commits suicide with a shotgun.

George is connected to everyone.  Auchincloss ( Bovier Jackies Family), Rockefeller, Bush, Paley, Luce, Dulles

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Charles Douglas Jackson was born in New York City on 16th March 1902. After graduation from Princeton University in 1924, he joined the media industry. In 1931 he went to work with Henry Luce at Time Magazine. Influenced by the right-wing views of his employer, Jackson became President of the Council for Democracy.



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You should also recall that both the Auchinclosses and the Bouviers lived in Newport, RI as nearby neighbors to Senator Pell even if only for the summertime and that George deMohrenschildt knew the French Bouviers very, very well. A young Jackie "Bouvier" Kennedy used to bounce on George's knee as a child and called him "Uncle George" as well. Personally I think that George was quite despondent about any role he may have inadvertently or semi-deliberately played, either by contributing to or causing the death of President Kennedy

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg36281.html

This Janet Bouvier is married an Auchincloss, where the real mony in the family resided.  This is the home where the step children Jackie Kennedy and Gore Vidal were raised.
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>> "The roommate at Andover was Edward Gordon Hooker.  Both Bush and Hooker served on three student groups together at Andover, including the student year book the Pot Pourri.  His mother, Cartwright 'Betty' Hooker, married de Mohrenschildt's brother Dimitri in January of 1937.  De Mohrenschildt would be actually Hooker's 'step-uncle,' and not an uncle like George Bush made out, as if he didn't know de Mohrenschildt well.  [footnote--FBI document  [#100-32965-154, p. 67; Student year book Pot Pourri, at Andover.]  ...
"It was through the friendship of George Bush and Edward Hooker that Dimitri and George de Mohrenschildt came into contact with the future President,  George Bush.  For both Bush and Dimitri and his brother George had contact with the CIA and Allen Dulles.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol12/pdf/HSCA_Vol12_deMohren.pdf

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4555
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Some of the major discoveries include:

De M and his brother worked for Henry Luce's Time-Life
Mrs. De M worked with Abe Zapruder and Olga Fehmer at clothing operation Nardis of Dallas in 1953. Olga's daughter became senior officer at CIA. Abe's son was lawyer for Department of Justice on November 22, 1963. Zapruder and de M belonged to same CIA organization Dallas Council on World Affairs founded by George H.W. Bush's mentor, Neil Mallon.
George H.W. Bush knew de M since 1942. Bay of Pigs was Bush's Baby Operation Zapata.
Allen Dulles knew de M's brother in 1953.
De M and his brother knew 50 CIA agents, consultants and operatives. De Mohrenschildt's father-in-law, Samuel Walter Washington was in charge of more than 250 CIA agents 1950-53.
De M knew Jackie Kennedy and her mother Janet Bouvier in 1938.
De M knew Mrs. Kennedy's dress designer Oleg Cassini and his brother Igor. Igor's wife Charlene (Wrightsman) Cassini committed suicide on April 7, 1963, while de Mohrenschildt is hanging out with Oswald.
De M knew JFK's landlord, C. Michael Paul friend of Charlene (Wrightsman) Cassini.
De M meets with LBJ seven months before JFK's death (Marie Fehmer present?).
De M worked for N. Rockefeller and Wm. S. Paley.
De M had ties to six trustees of the Museum of Modern Art: Philip C. Johnson, (architect of JFK memorial), Nelson Rockefeller, Wm. S. Paley, Henry Luce, Charles B. Wrightsman and John Hay Whitney (in-law to Paley).
De M was business partners with Mohamed Al Fayed in 1964. Fayed had an affair with Alexandra de Mohrenschildt and James Angleton of the CIA was interested in this.
This Timeline Chart presents facts. No one listed in the Timeline Chart is to be presumed guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy, solely upon his or her association, direct or indirect, to George De Mohrenschildt, Oswald's closest friend. Any such conclusion is for the reader to make.
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De Mohrenschildt had ties to three major players in the media world: 1) Nelson Rockefeller; 2) Henry Luce; and, 3) William S. Paley. Both Luce and Paley have kept their personal papers private away from the public. As Vice-President, Rockefeller was in charge of the Rockefeller Commission investigation which in part examined the possibility that a CIA coup was involved in JFK's assassination


http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol12/pdf/HSCA_Vol12_deMohren.pdf
GEORGE DE MOHRENSCHILDT
Staff Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations U.S. House of Representatives
Ninety-fifth Congress Second Session
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Dfohrenschildt was rumored to have had ties with the intelligence communities of several countries. Indeed de Mohrenschildt himself admitted some involvement with French intelligence, but his actual role with them was never fully disclosed, and he emphatically denied any other intelligence associations
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On April 1, 1977, the committee also received from Jeanne de Mohrenschildt a copy of the manuscript of the book, "I Am A Patsy, I Am A Patsy," which George de Mohrenschildt was writing about his relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald at the time of de Mohrenschildt's suicide on March 29, 1977. (6°2) In that manuscript,
de Mohrenschildt ...

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De Mohrenschildt testified before the Warren Commission that he first visited Haiti in 1956 when he was working for the Sinclair Oil Co. At that time. he did a geological prospect for oil drilling in the northern part of Haiti.
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May 1938-Emigrated to the United States with approximately $10,000 from his mother's estate and sports business . Worked for Chevalier Garde in New York selling perfumes. Worked as salesman for Shumaker & Co. Met Jackie Kennedy and her mother at Belport, Long Island, during the summer vacation.
1939-41-Dabbled in insurance business but failed to pass broker's examination.
1939-Worked for Humble Oil in Houston, Tex. Visited Louisiana home of Margaret Clark Williams who had large oil property in Louisiana. Returned to Louisiana and worked on rig in Terrebonne Parish. Tried to get job as polo instructor at Arizona Desert School for Boys. Contracted amoebic dysentery in Louisiana and returned to New York to recover. Mobilized by the Polish Army ; contacted Polish Embassy in Washington, D.C., but, "It was too late to join the Polish Army."

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2009, 11:15:35 am »
Not sure why these photo's would prove connection  Bush sr. to JFK murder.
However, if that photo of Daley plaza was taken BEFORE the assassination, then why is there AN ARROW POINTING at one of the windows of the book depository?
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2009, 11:27:01 am »
btw its pointing to a different window then the one that made history?
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2009, 12:09:44 pm »

  Jim Marrs was talking about this on Rense the other night.  What do you think?  Remember the video of the plane around the world trade center on 9/11?

UFO Above Dealey Plaza shortly after JFK was shot

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread522648/pg1


http://911review.org/planenew2.html
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2009, 01:08:39 pm »
 Jim Marrs was talking about this on Rense the other night.  What do you think?  Remember the video of the plane around the world trade center on 9/11?

UFO Above Dealey Plaza shortly after JFK was shot

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread522648/pg1


http://911review.org/planenew2.html



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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2009, 01:42:54 pm »
BBC Radio 4: The Whitehouse Coup led by Prescott Bush (1 to 3)
http://vodpod.com/watch/1408651-bbc-radio-4-the-whitehouse-coup-1-of-3-prescott-bush-led-nazi-coup-attempt-against-white-house
http://vodpod.com/watch/1408661-bbc-radio-4-the-whitehouse-coup-2-of-3-prescott-bush-led-nazi-coup-attempt-against-white-house
http://vodpod.com/watch/1408667-bbc-radio-4-the-whitehouse-coup-3-of-3-prescott-bush-led-nazi-coup-attempt-against-white-house



White House Coup: Smedley Butler and Prescott Bush
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/print/36409
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Created 2008-09-29 04:18

In 1934, Marine Major General Smedley Butler told Congress, according to Wikipedia [2], that a group of wealthy industrialists had plotted a military coup known as the Business Plot to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Wikipedia: [3]
In a 1995 History Today article Clayton Cramer argued that the devastation of the Great Depression had caused many Americans to question the foundations of liberal democracy. "Many traditionalists, here and in Europe, toyed with the ideas of Fascism and National Socialism; many liberals dallied with Socialism and Communism." Cramer argues that this explains why some American business leaders viewed fascism as a viable system to both preserve their interests and end the economic woes of the Depression.


Prescott Bush is George Bush's grandfather. Wikipedia continues: [4]
On July 23, 2007, the BBC Radio 4 series Document reported on the alleged Business Plot and the archives from the McCormack-Dickstein Committee hearings. The program mentioned Bush's directorship of the Hamburg-America Line, a company that the committee investigated for Nazi propaganda activities, and the alleged 1933 attempt, supposedly led by Gerald MacGuire, to stage a military coup against President Franklin D. Roosevelt aimed at forcing Roosevelt to resign (or, failing that, to assassinate him) and at installing a fascist dictatorship in the United States.

Source URL: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/36409

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[1] http://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=763&title=WHITE_HOUSE_COUP___SMEDLEY_BUTLER___PRESCOTT_BUSH
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush



Exposing the Legacy of American Corporatism
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By Richard Sanders, editor, Press for Conversion!

This issue of Press for Conversion! exposes a little-known, fascist plot to overthrow the U.S. government in the 1930s. We know about this scheme, and the corporate elite behind it, thanks to a high-ranking military whistle-blower: Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler. Butler is largely forgotten today, but 70 years ago he was the most revered American military hero, the only man to have twice been awarded the Marine’s prestigious Medal of Honor. During his loyal 33-year military career, Butler led invasions, quelled nationalist rebellions and instituted regime changes to benefit U.S. business interests in Mexico, Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, Honduras and China.

In 1933, Butler was approached by men representing a clique of multi-millionaire industrialists and bankers. They hated U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) with a passion, and saw his “New Deal” policies as the start of a communist take-over that threatened their interests. FDR even had the temerity to announce that the U.S. would stop using its military to interfere in Latin American affairs! Wall Street’s plutocrats were aghast! They had long been accustomed to wielding tremendous control over the government’s economic policies, including the use of U.S. forces to protect their precious foreign investments. Because of Butler’s steadfast military role in upholding U.S. business interests abroad, the plotters mistakenly thought they could recruit him to muster a “super-army” of veterans to use as pawns in their plan to subjugate or, if necessary, eliminate FDR.

Butler played along in order to determine who was behind the plot. He later testifying under oath before the MacCormack-Dickstein House Committee on un-American Activities. During that testimony Butler named those who were directly involved in the plot. He also identified an powerful organization that was behind the scenes coordinating and backing the plot. This organization, the American Liberty League, was comprised of some of America's wealthiest bankers, financiers and corporate executives. (Click the American Liberty League link for details on the League's main backers.)

However, the House Committee did not properly investigate the coup plot. In fact they helped to cover it up. The powerful fascists plotters behind the coup were never questioned, let alone arrested or charged with sedition or treason. The Committee even dropped from their report of Butler's testimony most of the names of these wealthy bankers and corporate presidents whom Butler had identified. Butler was of course outraged and he went on national radio to name the names of those behind the coup plot. A sympathetic reporter from the Philadelphia Herald, Paul Comly French was one of the only mainstream journalists to help Butler expose the plotters. John Spivak, a reporter, from the socialist magazine New Masses, interviewed Butler and helped him to put the coup plotters' names onto the public record. (Click here to read Spivak's account of the fascist plot: "The Plot and the Main Players.") For the most part, the mainstream media either ignored the story or went to great lengths to ridicule General Butler. (In his book 1000 Americans, anti-fascist journalist and media critic, George Seldes, described the media's coverup of Wall Street's plot. Click here to read an excerpt.)

Although Butler's patriotic efforts did thwart this fascist coup plot, the Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders who sponsored it continued to conspire behind the scenes to rid America of FDR and to smash his “New Deal.” Evidence of continued efforts by powerful U.S. fascists to regain control of the White House is illustrated by a 1936 statement by William Dodd, the U.S. Ambassador to Germany. In a letter to Roosevelt, he stated:

“A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions.”

Many of the plotters exposed by Butler, had been boosting their fortunes by investing in the fascist experiments of Mussolini and Hitler. Some of them even amassed great profits by arming the Nazis, both before and during WWII.

How is this history of relevance today?

Although all of the top U.S. fascists behind this 1930's plot are now dead, their corporations carry on. These companies, with their roots firmly planted in the fascist milieu of the 1930s, are now among the world’s wealthiest corporations. They continue to exert enormous influence over U.S. government policies, and – by extension – over global matters of war, peace and human rights.

Although those within the highest echelons of U.S. corporate power were willing to instigate a coup to take control of the White House, their plot against FDR was called off. As it turned out, an overt fascist coup was not actually necessary to attain their goals. The fascists behind the plot did eventually succeed in regaining their long-standing influence over the White House and American politics.

President George Walker Bush’s grandfather (Prescott Bush) and great grandfather (George Herbert Walker) were among Wall Street’s ultra-right wing elite. Before WWII, they were among the key players who coordinated the flow of investments from American multimillionaires into Germany. They profited by helping to coordinate the American financing behind Hitler’s rise to power. During the war, they even profited from companies that armed the Nazi war machine and used slave labour at Auschwitz. Then, after the war, Prescott Bush was instrumental in helping to launder Nazi loot for Fritz Thyssen, who was one Hitler’s earliest and richest industrialist backers.

The Bush family's illicit fortune, and their intimate connections to Wall Street and the intelligence community, were essential in launching Prescott Bush, his son George H.W. Bush and grandson George W. Bush, into politics and the oil industry.
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2009, 01:55:28 pm »
Hey Sane these links don't work.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3753529/BBC_Radio__Coup_against_FDR_by_Prescott_Bush__amp__others.

BBC radio documentary series "Document" uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by a group of right-wing American businessmen

The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell House & George BushΓ??s Grandfather, Prescott), believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.


Mike Thomson worked in national radio, television and newspapers. He presented the Breakfast show on the former Radio 5, worked as a reporter for Sky News[Fox in UK] and World Service Television and wrote regularly for The Daily Mail, The Independent and The Observer. Mike joined Today in the mid 1990's as a reporter and covered stories across the globe.

Mike has won a number of prestigious awards throughout his career. These include: The Texaco Award for 'Industrial Journalist of the Year' in the early 1990's; A Gold Sony Award in 2002 for Best News Programme: Document; The Day They Made it Rain; (Which he wrote and presented for BBC Radio 4) Shared a Sony Silver Award in the same year for his contribution to Today's coverage of the race riots in northern England; and won another Sony Gold Award in 2003 for Best News Coverage following his reports for Today on the latest famine to hit Ethiopia.
   
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« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2009, 02:09:02 pm »
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/serpent.html

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 02:40:21 PST
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One of Dennis Brunnell's "Gemstone" research papers (which also described the Mafia-CIA-oil company connection to the John F. Kennedy assassination, confirming the original "Gemstone" reports of Bruce Roberts) included a scenario developed by Kissinger and other Illuminists in the early 1980's or before. This scenario showed one such proposed plan as to how war could be used to bring the United States - the last obstacle standing in the way of absolute Illuminati rule of the world - into subjection to the one-world Socialist state. This scenario, possibly one of many developed, was in the form of a speech given by a U.S. president. George Bush was sited as a very possible candidate to this "speech" (This was years before Bush became vice president, which suggests that Brunnell was in fact tapped-into some very sensitive information). It was basically written as a possible emergency address to the nation which would supposedly take place after years of American involvement in an - Illuminati orchestrated? - war in the Middle East. The scenario continued as "the President" informs the nation that, due to the long drawn-out (Korea/Vietnam like no-win) war which has depleted our national resources, a certain Executive Order was to be issued for the "good" of the nation which would result in practically ALL PRIVATE AGENCIES coming under the absolute control of the Federal Government. In short, according to this scenario, if such a plan was carried out then the entire nation could be brought under absolute socialist control in one night.

Such a scenario may not be too far-fetched when we realize the following:

1) George Bush was, during his years at Yale University, initiated into the "Skull & Bones" society, also known as the "Brotherhood of Death". According to prominent political and financial analysts such as Antony Sutten, there is much documentation to suggest that Skull & Bones is nothing less than a Western branch of the Bavarian Illuminati, designed to recruit highly-educated individuals into serving it's cause.

2) George Bush served as THE DIRECTOR of the CIA for several years, which, according to various sources, is actually serving the one- world movement

3) Bush has very close ties with one-world organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations or C.F.R., Federal Reserve, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Alpine Institute, etc.

4) Before Ronald Reagan "chose" a running mate, according to the late Gary Allen, he was approached at a political convention by the duo of Walter Cronkite and Henry Kissinger, both alleged Illuminists, and "strongly encouraged" to choose George Bush as his running mate as Bush was well-favored by the International Banking Establishment of Wallstreet.

5) The Bush family is very rich and are heavily involved in high- profit, offshore oil drilling companies.

6) Also, when news of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait - where the Bush family's oil business had some vested interests - reached America, George Bush was at the one-world "Aspen" Institute of Colorado visiting with Margaret Thatcher. Bush's decision to rally the nations together by sending our young men and women to fight and die for the "New World Order", was based on "advice" he received from officials at the one-world Aspen Institute. Although "Operation Desert Storm" was a well-planned and well master-minded attack, the fact nevertheless remains that we were fighting to defend the "New World Order" and the oil interests (whereas we only get a very small percentage of our oil from Kuwait) and not to defend the constitutional United States. This war was a two-sided event. Even though the motive may have been other than in harmony with America's best interests in that (like Korea and Vietnam) it was fought FOR the Socialist-oriented United Nations; some good nevertheless came out of it, in essence, that America was able to defend ISRAEL from an aggressive enemy, something which Almighty God most likely honored. However the target, Saddam Hussain, escaped free while tens of thousands of his subjects, so many pawns in a huge game of chess, had to pay the price with their lives. As the Word of God says, "evil shall slay the wicked" (Psalm 34:21). This may in part apply to Iraq, the land of ancient Babylon (the ancient city where the one-world movement and all occult movements had their genesis) which in a strange twist of fate was "judged" by the very oppressive movement which it created. Notice also Bush's constant references to the "New World Order" - a concept which is a mockery of the Declaration of INDEPENDENCE which our forefathers shed their blood to defend. True, we must as a nation not ignore the rest of the world, yet at the same time we should not surrender ourselves to the rest of the world either, but preserve the American Republic as a bastion of Freedom to which the oppressed of ALL NATIONS can take refuge.


The reason we are so critical of this particular presidency is because we believe that the secret government - utilizing it's influence in mass-media control, MANIPULATED Bush into office in a direct perversion of the electoral process. In other words, through the fantastic media power which they wielded, the one-worlders snuffed out the competition. We realize that it is Biblical to honor the governing officials, yet this is only to the EXTENT that the governing powers submit to the Almighty governing power of the Universe, God Himself. Elijah criticized the ancient King Ahab for this very reason, because he was leading the nation of Israel astray into Baal worship. Unfortunately, King Ahab and George Bush may have had a lot in common. We would rather hope that the opposite were true, but facts are facts. However, we must not fall into the trap of pointing the finger at any one person, as Bush happens to be only one link in a very large and very powerful "secret government" chain which, as we have seen, has sold out much of this planet to "The Beast". Bush, like many misled "insiders", was no doubt largely a product of his environment, as well as a member of a generational "Establishment" family, and more-or-less a puppet or voicebox of secret government policy. This fact should be taken into account, as well as the fact that the major "enemy" is the draconian influence as it exists in and behind the secret government establishment. There were, nevertheless, less-than-honorable motives on the part of the United States in it's decision to fight in the Gulf War (see: YOUTH ACTION NEWS - Oct. 1990., Box 312., Alexandria, VA 22313 - this source gives much evidence that Bush and Company more-or-less "encouraged" the Kuwaiti invasion and, when faced with irrefutable proof that such an invasion was coming, did absolutely nothing to warn the Kuwaitis or the Iraqis against such an invasion. Was Bush and Company willing to risk the lives of thousands of people just so his One World Government could be established and a "trial run" of the global U.N. Police Force could be initiated?).

According to Dr. John Coleman (World Intelligence Review., Box 426., Metairie, LA 70004), the ancient Babylonian Serpent Cult, or what is known today as the "Illuminati" (33rd degree Freemasonry) is under the direct control of some very nefarious forces. Coleman in fact provides much evidence that 33rd degree Masonry has been used not only to infiltrate and take over many political, economic and religious institutions, but has also been used to "create" such institutions as well, organizations to which people will flock and submit their power and energies to unknowingly serve an agenda that they know nothing about. This was and is carried out through the 22 "Palladium" Lodges which, according to various sources, can be traced back to the Grand Masonic Lodge in England. According to Coleman and many others, the Grandmasters of Masonry AND of Jesuitism (i.e. the Illuminati) are working together in this conspiracy. In many cases the individuals involved are both Jesuits AND Masonic initiates. Such was the case of Guisseppi Mazzini, who was a Jesuit-Mason, and a satanist-witch to boot, and was second-in-command to the Masonic "Pontiff" Albert Pike - whose rotting remains now lie beneath the "House of the Temple" in Washington D.C. (see Dr. Coleman's tapes: CONSPIRACY CULTS AND THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, and FREEMASONRY AND THE ONE WORLD CONSPIRACY).

Other works that may be very revealing along this line, as we indicated earlier, are the writings of former 33rd degree Mason and former Past Master of all Scottish-Rite Masonic bodies, the Rev. Jim Shaw. This is especially true with his book THE DEADLY DECEPTION (P.O. Box 884., Silver Springs, FL 32688). In this work Mr. Shaw exposes the blatant SERPENT worship secretly taking place within the Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE in Washington D.C. Mix this with the accounts of "Masonic" street-outlays built into Washington D.C. itself and accounts of tunnels beneath the city which connect many of the important Federal buildings and which allegedly extend to extreme depths and distances, then you have a recipe for something very strange and sinister which is undermining our nations capitol. No wonder the Christian-Patriots within the American Republic have had to fight "the enemy within" for so long with so little apparent results from their efforts.


Concerning Bush's one-world policies, we will quote here from a few letters to the editor which appeared in various issues of the UTAH COUNTY JOURNAL, as confirmation of some of the statements which we have previously made. One letter, appearing in the April 30, 1991 issue of the U.C.J., stated:

"Editor: The April-May '91 issue of COMMON CAUSE reports that the first successful exploration for oil in Kuwait was done by the Zapata Oil Co., of which current President George Bush was a founder and director. The President's son, George W. Bush, is now the third largest insider stockholder in another off-shore oil drilling company located in Bahrain, 15 miles from Saudi Arabia. This is Harken Energy Corp., with its home base in Bedford, Texas.

"Does this information explain the Rambo-like "hurry up" war in Kuwait? Does it explain marked shifts in acceptance or castigation of Saddam Hussein? Does it offer an explanation for the terrible destruction of the Kuwait oil fields and Persian Gulf waters? Do these two leaders really have the welfare of their respective peoples at heart? I would give anything to read one of the history books on this war written 25-50 years hence. - Eugene J. Faux; Provo."


And in the Feb. 26, 1991 issue of the same publication:

"Editor: In the Feb. 12 issue of the JOURNAL an obviously well-intentioned lady suggested that we pray for President Bush because he has 'awesome responsibilities.'

"He has, indeed, many awesome responsibilities: a responsibility to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution; a responsibility to weed out those in our government who, by intent or neglect, work to undermine the Republican form of government given to us by our founding fathers; a responsibility to tell the American people the TRUTH about the incredible, rapidly escalating national debt and what the debt will mean to our children and our children's children 'unto the seventh generation' and beyond. He also has a responsibility to expose the hypocrisy of those who are working diligently to bring about a new constitutional convention, supposedly to propose one or two new amendments, while they already have entire new constitutions written and waiting. - Albert V. Burns; Spanish Fork."


Another letter which appeared in the UTAH COUNTY JOURNAL during the Bush-Iraq controversy, Mar. 5 1991 issue, stated:

"Editor: Mrs. (Colleen D.) brought up a very good point about my criticism of George Bush and his New World Order agenda. Rightfully, as a leader of a nation, he might be considered exempt from censure for any mistakes that he might make through oversight or a lack of proper information. Unfortunately, this is far from the case with Bush.

"Sadly, the president is very cognizant of his actions and exactly where these actions are speedily leading us - to a world government ruled by elitist insiders. History can conclude nothing less than this result. For a complete analysis of Bush, his political history, and his leadership of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, I enthusiastically recommend the new book on George Bush - THE ESTABLISHMENT MAN, available through The John Birch Society. Well documented, this book will put to rest any remaining praises for our chief executive.

"In fact, my critique of the executive is founded upon my patriotism, not turning against it. President Teddy Roosevelt stated: "Patriotism means to stand by the country. IT DOES NOT MEAN TO STAND BY THE PRESIDENT OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIAL SAVE EXACTLY TO THE DEGREE IN WHICH HE HIMSELF STANDS BY THE COUNTRY. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country." As Bush has repeatedly violated his oath to defend the Constitution, I will continue to patriotically reproach his intentions.

"As for being in the White House when Bush sent National Security Adviser Brant Scowcroft and Deputy Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger to Beijing immediately and secretly after the Tienamen Square massacre, no, I was not present when he made that call. That's why we have the press. The White House announced that such was the case on Dec. 18, 1989, to anyone listening. Such betrayal of freedom- fighters is par for the course when we look at Bush's policy toward other people seeking liberty, but receiving only his true objective: World despotism in his New World Order. - Bruce J. Martin."

In relation to the above concern of whether we should unquestioningly trust our elected (?) heads of state, it is interesting that of all the presidents which have been in the White House since the assassination of John F. Kennedy (which many allege was actually an Illuminati-inspired coup), EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM have been supportive of the one-world government movement as it is incarnate in the Council of Foreign relations and allied global organizations. Coincidence?


Finally, we have this letter from the September 18, 1990 issue of the same publication:

"Editor: In his September address to the nation, President Bush stated his five objectives for the massive deployment of U.S. troops. The fifth is the fundamental reason for this operation. As Mr. Bush stated himself, "The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward a historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a new world order - can emerge... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."

"The U.N. 'founders' included U.S. communist traitor, Alger Hiss, who was the acting secretary general of the conference in San Francisco in 1945. Hiss was accompanied by a contingent of U.S. communists and a swarm of Council on Foreign Relations members. The communists wanted world government by revolution and the others wanted it by way of socialism. In either case, these individuals did not want national sovereignty of the kind fought for by our founding fathers.

"The fundamental difference between a "new world order" under the United Nations and an independent United States are nowhere clearly indicated than in our DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE affirmation that "men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." The UN's total exclusion of God means that rights do not come from God, (but) that they proceed from government, and government can and will take them away.

"Our country has suffered in the past from U.N. decisions and action. U.N. advocates gave away all the gains our fighting men bled and died for in Europe and Asia after World War II. We fought Korea and Vietnam under U.N. sanction and command with victory denied even though over 100,000 men lost their lives and hundreds of thousands were wounded (in addition to this, several sources allege that communist nationals working within the U.N. constantly betrayed U.S. positions and strategies to their allies in North Korea, and repeated this betrayal during the Vietnam conflict as well. It is a fact that the MAJORITY of the "United" Nations Secretary Generals have also been communist nationals - Branton). Nixon and Kissinger operating under "new world order" dictates gave South Vietnam to the communist enemy after our military fought so valiantly even with the treasonous restrictions imposed on them.

"Now, George Bush wants the men and women of our armed forces to die... for the new world order... George Bush's drive for a "new world order" is not worth ONE DROP of American blood. But blood we shall have until we once again elect constitutionalists to office instead of one-worlders. - Mike Thomas; Pleasant Grove."


The January 26, 1990 issue of THE NEW FEDERALIST revealed even more about the Bush - one world connection. In his article, BUSH'S CHINA POLICY: SKULL AND BONES, Joseph Brewda writes:

"Jan 19 (EIRNS)--An obscure secret society known as "Skull and Bones" may have more to do with George Bush's obsessive support of Beijing's mass murderers than one may think.

"Skull and Bones is a secret fraternity at Yale University which is restricted to a mere fifteen student members per year. The society was formed in 1832 by General William Russell, whose shipping firm later dominated the U.S. side of the China opium trade. Yale University was founded by Eli Yale, who made his fortune working for the opium smuggling British East India Company.

"Skull and Bones became the recruiting grounds and preserve of the most important New England-centered families--families who also made their money in the opium trade. These families, whose sons regularly join Skull and Bones, include the little known, but powerful, Coffins, Sloanes, Tafts, Bundys, Paynes, Whitneys. They are a dominant element of the U.S. 'Eastern Establishment' to this day. The Bush family is one of a cluster of lower-level Establishment families controlled by these interests.

"What has this to do with Bush policy towards China--or for that matter, Bush's "War on Drugs"? (Note: the last television news reporter to ask Bush a critical question concerning the many narcotics agents who are complaining about how bad the "drug war" was going, was promptly fired from his job shortly after the press conference - Branton)

"George Bush, the first U.S. diplomatic representative to the People's Republic of China back in 1973, was a member of Skull and Bones. So were his father, brother, son, uncle, nephew, and several cousins. Winston Lord, the Reagan-Bush administration Ambassador to China was a member; so were his father and several other relatives. James Lilley, the current Ambassador to China, was a member of Skull and Bones, as was his brother. Except during the Carter administration, every U.S.



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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2009, 02:41:58 pm »
The actors are the ones that take the greatest risks and the rewards of success...

Cheap rewards :

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/knighted.php
1993:

George Bush, Sr. - The 41st U.S. President, appointed Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath by H.M. Queen Elizabeth.

http://www.greatdreams.com/amndmnts.htm
Bush was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II who is the leader of the Order of The Garter, on December 20, 1993, as a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honorable Order of the Bath.

http://www.geocrisis.com/cpr_order_garter_menu.htm
George Bush is a recent member who was knighted by the Queen on December 20, 1993, as a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honorable Order of the Bath.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Order_of_the_Bath

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2009, 03:13:50 pm »
The actors are the ones that take the greatest risks and the rewards of success...

Cheap rewards :

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/knighted.php
1993:

George Bush, Sr. - The 41st U.S. President, appointed Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath by H.M. Queen Elizabeth.

http://www.greatdreams.com/amndmnts.htm
Bush was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II who is the leader of the Order of The Garter, on December 20, 1993, as a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honorable Order of the Bath.

http://www.geocrisis.com/cpr_order_garter_menu.htm
George Bush is a recent member who was knighted by the Queen on December 20, 1993, as a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honorable Order of the Bath.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Order_of_the_Bath



Other overtly treasonous knights:

Sir Henry Kissinger
Sir Tommy Franks
Sir Norman Swarzkopf
Sir Colin Powell
Sir Alan Greenspan
Sir William Gates III
Sir Edward Kennedy (deceased)

They are knights of the British Empire and take a solemn oath to obey Queen Elizabeth II above all else.

Dope, Inc. goes into the obviousness of these people being major players in Dope, Inc.
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2009, 04:25:09 pm »
In the context of the time for the assassin's. JFK's "Second Term" as President. Plus the prospect of RFK for two terms...

Gore Vidal  half-brother to Jackie Bovier ...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_D._Auchincloss
Hugh D. Auchincloss -  second marrage, from 1935 to 1941, was to Nina S. Gore (1903–1978), mother of author Gore Vidal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Lee_Bouvier
 (Janet Norton Lee Bouvier Auchincloss Morris (December 3, 1907 – July 22, ... memories of her half-brother, Gore Vidal, )

http://www.esquire.com/features/gore-vidal-archive/best-man-1968

The Best Man, 1968
After Jack (a shoo-in for ’64), who? Bobby vs. Nelson, says this author/playwright/critic/politician, as he bleakly picks the winner.

By Gore Vidal March 1963
...
Here is the situation in 1968. John Kennedy will have been reelected President in 1964. Despite ritual Republican cries during the next two years that there is a rising popular tide favoring (a) fiscal responsibility, (b) less government, (c) brutal hardness on communism, the G.O.P. will discover, as usual, that though the country is quite as conservative as they want, it is also pro-incumbent and easily bemused by personality. If Kennedy’s popularity should have been, according to Dr. Gallup, extraordinarily high just after the debacle in the Bay of Pigs, what is it apt to be when he is doing well? And Presidents tend to do remarkable well just before they run for reelection. As New York’s Mayor Wagner said recently: “I think the Republicans may have to auction off that nomination for 1964.” Or to hear from a Republican, Senator Margaret Chase Smith: “There is already too much defeatism within Republican ranks about winning nationally in 1964…. We’re going to have to hunt for somebody to run for President.”

In 1968 Kennedy will still be head of the Democratic Party. Though forbidden by Constitutional amendment to seek a third term, he will have a good deal to say about his successor. What are the choices of the Democratic Party? The answer is: startlingly few. There is the Vice-President, Lyndon Johnson, whose will to be President continues. But time is no friend to Johnson’s candidacy. Assuming he is Kennedy’s running mate in ’64, he will be sixty years old in November, 1968. The public (whose memory is about two weeks, according to some cynics) has already forgotten the dynamic Lyndon Johnson who was once master of the Senate. Eight years of Vice-Presidential greyness will have completed his obscurity; nor is there any way for Johnson to gain political attention. By the very definition of his office, the Presidential shadow engulfs him. Also, practically speaking, all the arguments used against his candidacy in 1960 will still obtain. He is thought indifferent to civil rights even though, ironically, he is impeccable in that area, but, because he is a Texan, Northerners have him pegged as something of a Dixiecrat; he had a heart attack while in the Senate. Finally, how does the ceremonial presiding officer of the Senate make a new record for himself?
...
It seems inevitable that Robert Kennedy will be the candidate because by definition a major career in politics must set the White House as its goal, and Bobby’s career is major. From the point of practical politics, the Democrats will want him as nominee because he is certain to make the best race against any Republican. Why? Because his name is Kennedy and because during the next six years he will get a formidable buildup in the press.
...
Should Kennedy’s second term be successful there will be no popular move to turn out his party, which is also the country’s majority party. Should the chosen heir be his brother and alter ego, it would be almost like granting John a third term, something a reasonably contented people would be happy to do for him, as they were for Roosevelt—even happier because the attractive Kennedys’ aura is that of movie stars rather than that of politicians.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/gore-vidal-archive/best-man-1968#ixzz0YC9VWZM0
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #56 on: November 28, 2009, 04:31:36 pm »
In the context of the time for the assassin's. JFK's "Second Term" as President. Plus the prospect of RFK for two terms...

Gore Vidal  half-brother to Jackie Bovier ...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_D._Auchincloss
Hugh D. Auchincloss -  second marrage, from 1935 to 1941, was to Nina S. Gore (1903–1978), mother of author Gore Vidal.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Lee_Bouvier
 (Janet Norton Lee Bouvier Auchincloss Morris (December 3, 1907 – July 22, ... memories of her half-brother, Gore Vidal, )

http://www.esquire.com/features/gore-vidal-archive/best-man-1968

The Best Man, 1968
After Jack (a shoo-in for ’64), who? Bobby vs. Nelson, says this author/playwright/critic/politician, as he bleakly picks the winner.

By Gore Vidal March 1963
...
Here is the situation in 1968. John Kennedy will have been reelected President in 1964. Despite ritual Republican cries during the next two years that there is a rising popular tide favoring (a) fiscal responsibility, (b) less government, (c) brutal hardness on communism, the G.O.P. will discover, as usual, that though the country is quite as conservative as they want, it is also pro-incumbent and easily bemused by personality. If Kennedy’s popularity should have been, according to Dr. Gallup, extraordinarily high just after the debacle in the Bay of Pigs, what is it apt to be when he is doing well? And Presidents tend to do remarkable well just before they run for reelection. As New York’s Mayor Wagner said recently: “I think the Republicans may have to auction off that nomination for 1964.” Or to hear from a Republican, Senator Margaret Chase Smith: “There is already too much defeatism within Republican ranks about winning nationally in 1964…. We’re going to have to hunt for somebody to run for President.”

In 1968 Kennedy will still be head of the Democratic Party. Though forbidden by Constitutional amendment to seek a third term, he will have a good deal to say about his successor. What are the choices of the Democratic Party? The answer is: startlingly few. There is the Vice-President, Lyndon Johnson, whose will to be President continues. But time is no friend to Johnson’s candidacy. Assuming he is Kennedy’s running mate in ’64, he will be sixty years old in November, 1968. The public (whose memory is about two weeks, according to some cynics) has already forgotten the dynamic Lyndon Johnson who was once master of the Senate. Eight years of Vice-Presidential greyness will have completed his obscurity; nor is there any way for Johnson to gain political attention. By the very definition of his office, the Presidential shadow engulfs him. Also, practically speaking, all the arguments used against his candidacy in 1960 will still obtain. He is thought indifferent to civil rights even though, ironically, he is impeccable in that area, but, because he is a Texan, Northerners have him pegged as something of a Dixiecrat; he had a heart attack while in the Senate. Finally, how does the ceremonial presiding officer of the Senate make a new record for himself?
...
It seems inevitable that Robert Kennedy will be the candidate because by definition a major career in politics must set the White House as its goal, and Bobby’s career is major. From the point of practical politics, the Democrats will want him as nominee because he is certain to make the best race against any Republican. Why? Because his name is Kennedy and because during the next six years he will get a formidable buildup in the press.
...
Should Kennedy’s second term be successful there will be no popular move to turn out his party, which is also the country’s majority party. Should the chosen heir be his brother and alter ego, it would be almost like granting John a third term, something a reasonably contented people would be happy to do for him, as they were for Roosevelt—even happier because the attractive Kennedys’ aura is that of movie stars rather than that of politicians.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/gore-vidal-archive/best-man-1968#ixzz0YC9VWZM0

The movie (of the same name as the article) is a truth film extraordinaire with Henry Fonda (American Patriot IMO):

The Best Man (1964 film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_Man_(1964_film)
The Best Man is a 1964 film based on the play of the same title, both written by Gore Vidal. Starring Henry Fonda, Cliff Robertson, and Lee Tracy, the film (and play) lays bare the seamy political maneuverings behind the nomination of a presidential candidate. Tracy was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2009, 02:28:45 pm »
The movie (of the same name as the article) is a truth film extraordinaire with Henry Fonda (American Patriot IMO):

The Best Man (1964 film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_Man_(1964_film)
The Best Man is a 1964 film based on the play of the same title, both written by Gore Vidal. Starring Henry Fonda, Cliff Robertson, and Lee Tracy, the film (and play) lays bare the seamy political maneuverings behind the nomination of a presidential candidate. Tracy was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.

Here is another interesting publishing material from  "Jackie Kennedy"

Cowles, Gardner - Bilderberg  Owner-Publisher "Look Magazine"

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=19670108&id=21EOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=SX8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4414,781759
Book Says Demo's warned Kennedy

Sen JW Fulbright [Bilderberg] "Dallas is a very dangerous place. I wouldn't go there. Don't you go."
House Whip Hale Boggs [Warren Commision] Humphrey and Stevenson" urged Kennedy to bypass Dallas.

Look Magizine is serializing "The Death of a President" first of four installments. "1600 word revision required by Jackie Kennedy". Gardner Cowles "the revisions involve only 1600 words. ...
"an altercation flared between Kennedy and Johnson in San Antonio"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_a_President

In early 1964 Jacqueline Kennedy commissioned Manchester to produce an account of the assassination. She and the Kennedy family wanted a definitive telling of the events to preempt other books, including Jim Bishop's forthcoming The Day Kennedy Was Shot.[2] Kennedy was familiar with Manchester's work through Portrait of a President: John F. Kennedy in Profile, his account of the president's first year and a half in the White House.

Manchester had met and grown to admire her husband when both were recovering from war wounds in Boston.

The book agreement stipulated that Kennedy and the president's brother, Robert F. Kennedy, then Attorney General, would approve the manuscript. As part of the agreement, Mr. Manchester would receive an advance of $36,000 but only against the income from the first printing. All other earnings would go the John F. Kennedy Library.[2]
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Harper & Row published "The Death of a President" in the spring of 1967 .

The Kennedy family retains control of materials related to "Death of a President". Jacqueline Kennedy's interview tapes with the author are sealed at the Kennedy Library until 2067.

The Kennedy family has permitted the book to go out of print.[2]

William Manchester Received $665,000 from Look magazine for the serial rights
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She claimed that her interviews with Manchester had been intended for the library, threatened to block publication of the book unless the changes were made, unsuccessfully offered Look $1 million to cancel the serialization, and in late 1966 filed an injunction to stop the book's publication.[2]

Newspapers were filled with articles about her decision and speculation about the contents of the book. Through an out-of-court settlement in January 1967, Manchester agreed to cut 1,600 words from the serialization and seven out of 654 pages from the published book. Although headlines called Jacqueline Kennedy the victor, Manchester called the cuts "harmless", and retained the serialization fee.[2]

By 1970 the book had earned $1,057,347.64 in royalties for the Kennedy Library.

In 1988 the book was reprinted and Manchester wrote a new foreword. People had come to him wondering whether he would update and modify his original work due to "new developments" in chronicling the story. Manchester wrote that, in his view, there were no new developments.
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2009, 04:39:05 pm »
Blown Agents - This is a loose link but interesting just the same.  Project Mockingbird - Bilderberg - MK-Ultra - Articoke - Sheppard-Pratt Institute Welcome to "The Village"

Frank Wisner Sr. and  Frank Olsen

http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Statements/FamilyStatement2002.html
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Operation ARTICHOKE was a CIA program that preceded MK-ULTRA. ARTICHOKE involved the development of special, extreme methods of interrogation. Officials responsible for the ARTICHOKE program were very concerned with the problem of disposing of “blown agents” and with the task of finding a way to produce amnesia in operatives who had seen too much and could no longer be relied upon.

The Colby documents state, as does William Colby in his 1978 autobiography, that Frank Olson was not an “Army scientist,” but, rather, a “CIA employee,” a “CIA officer.”
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In 1953 Dr. Gibson was the admitting psychiatrist at the hospital near Washington to which Frank Olson was allegedly to have been taken after returning from New York City.

 Subsequently Dr. Gibson went on to a distinguished career in psychiatry, becoming President of the American Psychiatric Association, and Director of Sheppard Pratt Hospital in Baltimore.
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http://arlingtoncemetery.net/fgwisner.htm

Wisner was told to create an organization that concentrated on "propaganda, economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance groups, and support of indigenous anti-Communist elements in threatened countries of the free world."

Later that year Wisner established Operation Mockingbird, a program to influence the American media. Wisner recruited Philip Graham (Washington Post) to run the project within the industry. According to Deborah Davis (Katharine the Great): "By the early 1950s, Wisner 'owned' respected members of the New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles."

After 1953 the network was overseen by Allen W. Dulles, director of the Central Intelligence Agency. By this time Operation Mockingbird had a major influence over 25 newspapers and wire agencies. These organizations were run by people with well-known right-wing views such as William Paley (CBS), Henry Luce (Time Magazine and Life Magazine), Arthur Hays Sulzberger (New York Times), Jerry O'Leary (Washington Star), Barry Bingham Sr., (Louisville Courier-Journal), James Copley (Copley News Services) and Joseph Harrison (Christian Science Monitor). According to Alex Constantine (Mockingbird: The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA), in the 1950s, "some 3,000 salaried and contract CIA employees were eventually engaged in propaganda efforts.

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Another project started by Wisner was called Operation Bloodstone. This secret operation involved recruiting former German officers and diplomats who could be used in the covert war against the Soviet Union. This included former members of the Nazi Party such as Gustav Hilger and Hans von Bittenfield. Later, John Loftus, a prosecutor with the Office of Special Investigations at the U.S. Justice Department, accused Wisner of methodically recruiting Nazi war criminals. As one of the agents involved in Operation Bloodstone, Harry Rositzke, pointed out, Wisner was willing to use anyone "as long as he was anti-communist."
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At this time Wisner began plotting the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran. He had upset the US government by nationalizing Iran's oil industry. Mossadegh also abolished Iran's feudal agriculture sector and replaced with a system of collective farming and government land ownership.

On April 4, 1953, Wisner persuaded Allen W. Dulles to approve $1 million to be used "in any way that would bring about the fall of Mossadegh." Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of Theodore Roosevelt, was put in charge of what became known as Operation Ajax. According to Donald N. Wilber, who was involved in this CIA plot to remove Mossadegh from power, in early August, 1953, Iranian CIA operatives, pretending to be socialists, threatened Muslim leaders with "savage punishment if they opposed Mossadegh," thereby giving the impression that Mossadegh was cracking down on dissent. This resulted in the religious community turning against Mossadegh.  
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Wisner's other great success was the overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz. He had been elected as President of Guatemala in March, 1951. Arbenz began to tackle Guatemala's unequal land distribution. He said that the country needed "an agrarian reform which puts an end to the latifundios and the semi-feudal practices, giving the land to thousands of peasants, raising their purchasing power and creating a great internal market favorable to the development of domestic industry."  

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The CIA began providing financial and logistic support for Colonel Carlos Castillo. With the help of resident Anastasio Somoza, Castillo had formed a rebel army in Nicaragua. It has been estimated that between January and June, 1954, the CIA spent about $20 million on Castillo's army.
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On 18th June, 1954, aircraft dropped leaflets over Guatemala demanding that Arbenz resign immediately or else the county would be bombed. CIA's Voice of Liberation also put out similar radio broadcasts. This was followed by a week of bombing ports, ammunition dumps, military barracks and the international airport.  
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The removal of Jacobo Arbenz resulted in several decades of repression. Later, several of the people involved in Operation Success, including Richard Bissell and Tracy Barnes, regretted the outcome of the Guatemala Coup.

Wisner managed to get a copy of the speech that Nikita Khrushchev made at the 20th Party Congress in February, 1956, where Khrushchev launched an attack on the rule of Joseph Stalin. He condemned the Great Purge and accused Stalin of abusing his power. He announced a change in policy and gave orders for the Soviet Union's political prisoners to be released.

Wisner leaked details of the speech to the New York Times who published it on 2nd June, 1956. Khrushchev's de-Stalinzation policy encouraged people living in Eastern Europe to believe that he was willing to give them more independence from the Soviet Union. Over the next few weeks riots took place in Poland and East Germany.  

In Hungary the prime minister Imre Nagy removed state control of the mass media and encouraged public discussion on political and economic reform. Nagy also released anti-communists from prison and talked about holding free elections and withdrawing Hungary from the Warsaw Pact. Khrushchev became increasingly concerned about these developments and on 4th November 1956 he sent the Red Army into Hungary. Wisner expected the United States would help the Hungarians. As Thomas Polgar later pointed out: "Sure, we never said rise up and revolt, but there was a lot of propaganda that led the Hungarians to believe that we would help."  

Wisner, who had been involved in creating this propaganda, told friends that he felt the American government had let Hungary down. He pointed out that they had spent a great deal of money on Radio Free Europe "to get these people to revolt". Wisner added that he felt personally betrayed by this behaviour. During the Hungarian Uprising an estimated 20,000 people were killed. Wisner told Clare Boothe Luce, the American ambassador in Italy: "All these people are getting killed and we weren't doing anything, we were ignoring it."

In December, 1956, Wisner had a mental breakdown and was diagnosed as suffering from manic depression. During his absence Wisner's job was covered by his chief of operations, Richard Helms. Wisner's friends believed the illness was triggered by the failure of the Hungarian Uprising. A close friend, Avis Bohlen said he "was so depressed about how the world was going... he felt we were losing the Cold War."

The CIA sent Wisner to the Sheppard-Pratt Institute, a psychiatric hospital near Baltimore. He was prescribed psychoanalysis and shock therapy (electroconvulsive treatment). It was not successful and still suffering from depression, he was released from hospital in 1958.  

http://library.thinkquest.org/11046/days/bay_of_pigs.html
April 17 1961 - Bay of Pigs Invasion

Wisner was too ill to return to his post as head of the DDP. Allen W. Dulles therefore sent him to London to be CIA chief of station in England. Dulles decided that Richard Bissell rather than Richard Helms should become the new head of the DPP. Wisner arrived in England in September, 1959. His work involved planning a coup in Guyana, a country that had a left-wing government.  

In April 1962 Richard Helms recalled Wisner to Washington.

August 10, 1962 CIA Director John McCone sends a memo to Kennedy expressing his belief that Soviet medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs) will be deployed in Cuba  

Four months later [August 1962]  he agreed to retire from the CIA.

Nov 22 1963 - Kennedy was assassinated

Frank Wisner killed himself with one of his son's shotguns on 29th October, 1965.

At Arlington Cemetery, Frank Wisner was buried as a naval commander, his wartime rank. All the top officials of the agency, from director on down, were in attendance. (The CIA posted guards to keep the KGB from seeing who was there.)  

His oldest son, Frank, 2nd, [BILDERBERG] is serving with the State Department in Saigon.  In addition to the farm, the Wisners maintained a home in the Georgetown section of Washington

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwisner.htm
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2009, 07:25:47 pm »
http://www.karlaturner.org/books/Operation_Mind_Control_-_Walter_Bowart.pdf

Forrestal first victim?

http://lippard.blogspot.com/2007/08/brief-history-of-cia-1945-1953-truman.html

June 27, 1947: A Congressional committee holds secret hearings that lead to formal creation of the CIA on September 18. Dean Acheson [Bilderberg] writes "I had the gravest forebodings about this organization, and warned the President that as set up neither he, the National Security Council, nor anyone else would be in a position to know what it was doing or to control it."

(p. 25} James Forrestal wrote that "This office will probably be the greatest cemetery for dead cats in history." (p. 24) The National Security Act says nothing about clandestine operations overseas, only the correlation, evaluation, and dissemination of intelligence information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal
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Forrestal observed a famously punishing work schedule in the last years of his life, and rumors had circulated in the press as to his health. President Truman's unexpected decision to dismiss him as Defense Secretary on March 31, 1949 strained him to the breaking point, causing him to suffer a nervous breakdown.

Within days he was diagnosed with clinical depression and admitted for psychiatric hospitalization on April 2, 1949.

On May 22, 1949 he was found dead on the roof of a covered walkway below the window of a kitchen across the hall from his 16th floor room at Bethesda Naval Hospital, a bathrobe sash knotted tightly around his neck.

 The obvious appearance of suicide was supported by physical evidence collected by investigators suggesting Forrestal had fallen accidentally while attempting to hang himself. Hospital records also indicated Forrestal had been under 24 hour watch for suicidal ideation early in his stay, but had reportedly improved with aggressive treatment and was not guarded on the day he died.
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2009, 09:09:50 pm »
Bush Link to Kennedy Assassination
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4315024059102108031
1:30:27  - 4 years ago
A thorough, documented, criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush, establishing beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy.

Long and interesting threat but,

How do these photos connect Bush to the Kennedy  assassination?
Other then there is a photo of Bush in the box and a photo of Daleyplaza and its not sure when that was taken.

It would not surprise me that Bush  had something to do with the assassination but you wont convict him using this box of random photos?

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2009, 07:50:12 pm »
They were already trying to destroy JFK's 1964 Presidential chances via "Bobby Baker" as procurer of women. Oh, and J Edgar Hoover Wiretaping the conversations... 

Robert G. ("Bobby") Baker, Secretary to the Majority of the Senate (was LBJ's boy) and this is related to
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2698
The Ellie Rometsch incident relates to the possible Soviet spy Kennedy was procured by Bobby Baker

Part of it actually ended up in court:

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/564/564.F2d.531.75-2039.html
564 F.2d 531
184 U.S.App.D.C. 46

Fred B. BLACK, Jr.
v.
SHERATON CORPORATION OF AMERICA et al.
Appeal of UNITED STATES of America.

No. 75-2039.

United States Court of Appeals, District of Columbia Circuit.

Plaintiff is a Washington lobbyist who fell from grace in 1963-64. Plaintiff claims that his loss of employment and reputation was caused by government dissemination of information gained from an illegal eavesdrop in 1963. Plaintiff sought discovery of certain government documents in order to prove this theory. The government, which had disclosed logs of its surveillance and memoranda based thereon, declined to produce the particular documents except to the district court in camera. The district court rejected this request, required production, and following non-production it imposed sanctions, and ultimately held the government liable to the plaintiff for $903,232 in damages. In our view the government made a sufficient showing of a pertinent privilege to call upon the district court to undertake an in camera verification. We vacate the judgment and remand for further proceedings.

I. BACKGROUND

A. Factual Background

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Plaintiff Fred B. Black, Jr. was a Washington lobbyist affiliated with Robert G. ("Bobby") Baker, Secretary to the Majority of the Senate. Black's average annual reported taxable income for the years 1958-62 was $216,000.

3
On February 7, 1963, FBI agents installed a microphone through the common wall of a room adjoining Black's suite at the Sheraton Carlton Hotel in Washington, D.C. By means of this device, the FBI agents secretly listened to Black's conversations and activities until April 25, 1963.

4
At about this time, Black was beset by a number of other difficulties. The IRS had been investigating him for income tax evasion for the past two years. In December of 1962, the IRS completed its investigation and recommended that the Justice Department undertake a criminal prosecution. Approval was sent to the U.S. Attorney in January of 1963, and Black was indicted on March 29, 1963.

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In 1963 Black also became entangled in the Senate investigation of Bobby Baker. Both Black and Baker apparently owned interests in Serv-U Corporation. A competitor of Serv-U, Capitol Vending Corporation, filed suit against Black and Baker charging that the two had conspired to deprive Capitol of a contract with Melpar, Inc. The complaint alleged that Black had persuaded one of his major clients, North American Aviation, to pressure its subcontractor Melpar to deny the contract to Capitol.

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Bobby Baker resigned from his office in October, 1963, and hearings were conducted in late 1963 and 1964. Black's testimony, which was released to the public on February 21, 1964, showed that he had a consulting contract with Melpar and an interest in Serv-U, both of which had contracts with North American Aviation. One week later North American fired Black for conflict of interest.

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Three months later, Black was convicted of income tax evasion. That conviction was affirmed by this court in 1965. 122 U.S.App.D.C. 347, 353 F.2d 885 (1965). By this time Black was unable to obtain employment as a Washington representative, and his income for 1965 amounted to only $4,500.

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In May of 1966, Solicitor General Thurgood Marshall advised the Supreme Court of the 1963 eavesdropping on Black's hotel suite, which covered conversations with his attorney. The Supreme Court vacated and remanded for a new trial. Black v. United States, 385 U.S. 26, 87 S.Ct. 190, 17 L.Ed.2d 26 (1966). Upon remand, the district court found in a suppression hearing that the government's evidence had not been derived from the eavesdropping. On retrial, however, defendant Black was acquitted.B. Procedural Background

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Black filed this action in 1967 seeking monetary recovery for injuries allegedly caused by the concededly illegal eavesdropping operation. Black's amended complaint, filed in 1970, invoked theories of trespass, invasion of privacy by intrusion, invasion of privacy by publication and violation of constitutional rights. Black alleged that the information obtained by means of the eavesdrop had been disseminated to (1) the grand jury which indicted him for tax evasion; (2) his antagonists in the Capitol Vending suit; (3) the Senate Committee which investigated Black and Baker; and (4) various agencies of the federal government, which then allegedly "blackballed" Black with his former employers. Black further alleged that the government intended to use the information gathered by the eavesdrop to coerce Black into becoming an informer for an FBI investigation into organized crime in Los Angeles. Black sought damages for his loss of valuable contacts with major corporations, the destruction of his means of livelihood, his loss of his good name, and mental suffering and anguish.

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2009, 08:19:21 pm »
LBJ - Baker Serv-U and the Mob

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbakerB.htm
Robert (Bobby) Baker was born in Pickens, South Carolina in 1929. At the age of 14 Baker became a page at the Senate. He was befriended by Lyndon B. Johnson and eventually became secretary to the Senate Majority Leader. At this time he obtained the nickname Little Lyndon.
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 1960 Johnson's was elected as vice president under John F. Kennedy. Baker remained as Johnson's secretary and political adviser.

He continued to do business with Levison, Giancana and Ben Siegelbaum (an associate of Jimmy Hoffa) in the Dominican Republic. Baker argued that Dominican Republic could be a Mafia replacement for Cuba. However, these plans came to an end when the military dictator, Rafael Trujillo, was murdered on the orders of the CIA. President Kennedy now gave his support to Juan Bosch when he was elected to office in December, 1962.
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http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_221.html
MOB STORY: The Vice President By John William Tuohy July 2002 

For decades, Washington, DC insiders had wondered aloud about how Lyndon Johnson, a professional public servant all of his life, had acquired a fortune which included a radio and television station, considerable real estate and bank holdings worth a total of $15,000,000.

     Johnson caused the whispers himself. He made no attempts to hide his wealth, instead, in true LBJ fashion, he flaunted it. He owned a 414-acre ranch in Texas, which included a 6,300ft landing strip and two planes and an enormous and very expensive estate, the Elms, in exclusive Northwest Washington.

     Life was good for the former high school janitor who worked his way through college. For almost ten years he had been one of the most powerful men on the Hill, and as Vice President, his career still had promise.

     Then, in March of 1962, the FBI arrested Billie Sol Estes, a big time contributor to the Democratic party from West Texas, on charges of fraud and theft for his role in a multi million-dollar deal involving storage tanks, fake montages and cotton allotments which would eventually lead to the dismissal of several Agricultural Department officials.

     Slowly, word leaked out to the public, for most of inside Washington already knew the allegations, that LBJ and Estes had been business partners in several ventures and that Johnson had lobbied on Estes' behalf at the Agriculture Department, that Johnson had tried to block the FBI's investigation and that he had received many gifts from Estes' office including an airplane.

     There's some evidence to suggest that Johnson worked a deal with Hoover to suppress the evidence against him in the Estes case or that after Kennedy was killed, that Johnson simply ordered Hoover to destroy the evidence against him.

     The Kennedys were worried over the Estes business, especially when they learned that a Republican congressman was planning to use the Estes business to impeach Johnson.

     Relations between the Johnson and Kennedy families had always been tense. During the democratic presidential primary in 1960, when Johnson was in the race for the White House, his staff spread stories that the Kennedy brothers were "cross-dressing homosexuals" and that certain Staff members had photographs from a party in Las Vegas to prove it.

     Somebody also broke into the Kennedy doctors' office and ransacked the place and a few days later, Texan John Connelly, a Johnson supporter held a press conference to announce that Kennedy had Addison's disease and would not live long enough to fulfill his term.

     Another loser from that primary was Chicago's own Democratic king maker, Jacob Arvy, who backed LBJ against Kennedy and as a result had no influence with the Kennedy White House.

     In the middle of the Estes mess, Henry Marshall, an Agriculture Department official in Texas who was investigating the Estes case, ended up dead. Although Marshall's face, hands and arms were bruised and he had been shot five times with a bolt-action rifle, meaning that each shot required a pump to eject the shell, the death was ruled a suicide.

     Estes would later claim that Marshall was killed by a convicted killer named Mac Wallace and that the murder was contracted by LBJ.

     Just as the Estes mess was erupting, the Bobby Baker scandal exploded.

     Bobby Baker of Pickens, South Carolina, started his career in Washington as a Senate Page in 1942. Twenty-one years later, at age 34, he was personnel secretary to the Majority leader and was a major power on Capitol Hill and was known, rightfully, as the 101st Senator of the United States.

     Starting in the 1950s, Baker became Johnson's protégée, or "Little Lyndon" as he was sarcastically called.

     LBJ's aide Harry McPherson recalled Baker by saying "He was very smart, very quick, and indefatigable. Just worked all the time. He was always running someplace to make some kind of a deal."

     By 1960, Bobby Baker was the man to see on Capitol Hill. He not only knew where the bodies where buried, he probably buried them there. He was also a millionaire, an odd circumstance for a man who was born into humble surroundings and never worked outside government.

     There were always rumors about Baker's involvement with the mob but the connections were never made clear until 1962.

     For years, the Trujillo dictatorship that ran the Dominican Republic had been trying to influence Bobby Baker to their side.

     All the attempts failed until Baker learned that Intercontinental Hotels Corporation, which was then wholly owned by Pan American Airlines, was considering expanding his casinos into the Caribbean, specifically into the business friendly Dominican Republic.

     Intercontinental already had 23 hotels in the Caribbean, three of which housed casinos which had been set up to lure tourist into the hotel, tourist who would use Pan Am Airways to get there.

     But the company didn't want to run the casinos because they considered it unseemly and instead set out to find a company which would run the casinos for them.

     At that point, somebody brought in Bobby Baker, largely because Pan Am Airway, Intercontinental's owner, was subject to strict federal airline regulations and it was well known that Pan Am wanted those regulations relaxed and Baker had enough power on Capitol Hill and the White House to make that happen.

     Baker called Intercontinental's chairman and arranged an appointment to see him, but on the day of the appointment, Baker showed up with mobster Ed Levison, brother to the infamous Louis "Sleep-Out Louie" Levenson, who was the original manager of Myer Lansky's casino, the Havana Riviera in Cuba, and was now running the Fremont in Las Vegas which was secretly owned by Tony Accardo, Sam Giancana and Paul Ricca.

     It was also at Accardo's request that Levenson managed to get then Senator Lyndon Johnson and Baker as his first official guests at the opening of the Stardust casino back in 1955.

     Baker and the Levenson brothers had been involved in a series of questionable business deals over the years, in fact Sleep-Out Levenson consigned a $175,000 business loan for Baker a few months before the meeting.

     Now Baker wanted Intercontinental to allow Levenson to run their casinos for them in Santo Domingo, the Dominican Republic.

     Intercontinental executives explained to Baker that other bids were already under consideration and that one of the bids had been submitted by Cliff Jones, the former Lieutenant Governor of Nevada.

     But, unknown to Intercontinental, Jones was already partners with the Levenson brothers in a shady Caribbean bank as well as several Las Vegas Casinos.

     Baker said, "I'll talk to Cliff, we're very close" and added that he and Jones and Kozloff could operate the casino together and, in theory, Intercontinental agreed.

     At the next meeting, Intercontinental told Baker and Levenson that the deal would fall apart if his brother, Sleep-Out Louie, were involved in the casino because of his criminal record and contacts to the underworld.

     Levenson assured the corporation that his brother would have nothing to do with the casinos despite the fact that Ed Levison himself also ran a mob-connected gambling empire and had five felony arrests on his record.

     It was finally decided that they would merge the Jones bid with Bobby Baker and Levenson bid for control of the casinos, however, when the final bid was submitted, it only showed Jones' name on it.

     Baker, Levenson and Jones won the bid of course and were given control over the hotel-casinos, not only in the Dominican Republic but in Curacao, British Antilles and Quito Ecuador as well.

     With control of the casino in the Dominican Republic, all Baker and Levenson had to do now was to get assurances from the island's iron-fisted ruler, Trujillo, that they would be allowed to operate safely and undisturbed.

     Trujillo, who was as corrupt as a leader could be, agreed. However, shortly before the Baker-Levenson plan could fall into place, Trujillo was murdered by his own military guards on orders from the CIA.

     In December of 1962, with Trujillo out of the way, the Dominican Republic held its first free election and a victory for Juan Bosch of the Partido Revolucionario Dominicano ensued.

     Bosch, who had been exiled by Trujillo for twenty-five years, was a progressive in the democratic tradition and Kennedy instructed the state department to give Bosch its full support. With communism making rapid advancements throughout Latin America and the Caribbean, Kennedy hoped to make the Dominican Republic under Bosch a democratic showplace.

     Vice President Johnson, Bobby Baker and Ed Levenson were in the Dominican Republic as guests of the Bosch government to witness Bosch's swearing in. Afterwards, Baker flew to Miami Beach where he met with Sam Giancana and Sigelbaum at the International hotel in Miami Beach.

     It was probably at this meeting that Baker convinced Giancana that the Dominican Republic, which on the surface anyway, looked stable enough, could be the mob's replacement for Cuba.

     A few weeks later, the FBI learned that Giancana did, in fact, intend to open casinos in the Dominican Republic.

     Perhaps at that point it all came together for Bobby Kennedy, who may have recognized all the signs of pending scandal and decided to close it down before it exploded.

     Kennedy ordered the FBI to place a lockstep on Giancana. No matter where he went or what he did, six to ten FBI agents dogged his every move. Agents would even stand next to Giancana at public urinals and insult the size of his manhood.

     Agents followed his daughters, his caretakers and his girlfriends. They knocked on neighbors' doors and asked if they knew that a notorious gangster was living on the block.

     The pressure of surveillance put on by the FBI forced Giancana to shut down extortion rackets and gambling operations.

     "You tell everyone," Giancana said at a meeting with his Capos, "that everything is off. This is because of the G. We ain't spending another nickel. Everyone is on their own. They got to make it any way they can."

     The same pressure was being applied out in Las Vegas as well and the skim was slowed down which dried up the cash flow in to mob coffers from Boston to Los Angles.

     Still, when the pressure let up a little bit, Giancana and several other Chicago hoods took a jaunt down to the Dominican Republic to scout out more potential casino sights.

     Everything in the Dominican Republic looked good until the Dominican military, backed by the island's land owning class, disposed Juan Bosch and a civilian Junta took over, tossing the Republic into two years of political and social chaos and the mob's hopes of building another Cuba off the American coast were lost forever.

     The end of the game for Bobby Baker came shortly afterwards.

     In December of 1961, at a pre-inaugural party, Bobby Baker and Vice President Johnson had met with Levenson and mobster Benny Sigelbaum and Johnson's neighbor, lobbyist Fred Black and formed the Serve-U-Corporation, which would provide vending machines for companies working on federally granted programs.

     The machines were manufactured by a Chicago-based corporation secretly owned by Tony Accardo, Paul Ricca, Gus Alex and Sam Giancana and others.

     Baker's connection to the Serve-U-Corporation is what caused his life to come tumbling down in October of 1963 when he was forced to resign his senate post after a vending machine contractor named Baker in a civil suit as the person who strong-armed them out of defense contractors' plant when they refused to kick back enough money.

     It turned out that if Baker went down he could have brought John Kennedy and his entire administration with him because Baker was instrumental in introducing John Kennedy to a suspected Russian spy named Ellen Rometsch.

     Rometsch was a stunning young brunette who had found her way out of an East German slum and moved to Washington in 1961 as the wife of a West German Army sergeant assigned to Embassy duty.

     Mrs. Rometsch soon became a popular regular at Bobby Baker's Quorum Club up on Capitol Hill, a semi private watering hole for the Capital's elite and earned a well-deserved reputation as a party girl with a very open mind.

     Then, sometime around 1962, Bill Thompson, a lobbyist, took Rometsch to meet John Kennedy. According to Thompson, after the meeting, "Jack sent back word. It turned out to be the best time he ever had in his life. That was not the only occasion they met. She saw him again. It went on for a while."

     Rometsch started talking about the affair and the FBI, which already suspected that Rometsch was an East German spy, heard about the affair and began to watch Rometsch around the clock.

     When the Bobby Baker scandal erupted, J. Edgar Hoover told Bobby Kennedy about Rometsch and her ties to not only Baker but the Soviets and within hours, Rometsch and her husband were deported back to Europe.

     By 1963, the Kennedys were fed up with LBJ, and there was serious talk of dumping him from the ticket the following year "For health reasons."

     It never happened.

     What did happen, was that one day in Chicago, in April 1963, Jimmy Hoffa was playing cards in his hotel room with Joey Glimco and their lawyers, when Hoffa asked what would happen if something were to happen to Bobby, or "Boo-bee" as he called him, Kennedy. The group responded that John Kennedy would "be so pissed off he would probably replace him with somebody who is a bigger son of bitch then Bobby is."

     After a short silence, Hoffa asked, "But what would happen if something happened to John Kennedy?" and the answer was, "Lyndon Johnson would become President and replace 'Boo-bee' as his first act."

     In 1965, the FBI had placed a bug on Bobby Baker and those bugs were picking up things that LBJ figured the American people didn't need to know, so, on July 11, 1965, President Lyndon Johnson ordered all of the illegal wiretaps planted by the FBI, including every bug planted against the mob, to be shut down.

Mr. Tuohy can be reached by writing to [email protected]
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2009, 11:36:33 pm »
Oh I missed this bit:

Mary Jo Kopechne was a "roomate" of Nancy Carole Tyler , Bobby Baker's "girlfriend".....
Oh and they both died tragically....

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbakerB.htm
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According to the president's secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, Kennedy had decided that because of this emerging scandal he was going to drop Lyndon B. Johnson as his running mate in the 1964 election. He told Lincoln that he was going to replace Johnson with Terry Sanford.

On 22nd November, 1963, a friend of Baker's, Don B. Reynolds told B. Everett Jordan and his Senate Rules Committee that Johnson had demanded that he provided kickbacks in return for this business. This included a $585 Magnavox stereo. Reynolds also had to pay for $1,200 worth of advertising on KTBC, Johnson's television station in Austin. Reynolds had paperwork for this transaction including a delivery note that indicated the stereo had been sent to the home of Johnson.

Don B. Reynolds also told of seeing a suitcase full of money which Baker described as a "$100,000 payoff to Johnson for his role in securing the Fort Worth TFX contract". His testimony came to an end when news arrived that President John F. Kennedy had been assassinated.
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As soon as Lyndon B. Johnson became president he contacted B. Everett Jordan to see if there was any chance of stopping this information being published. Jordan replied that he would do what he could but warned Johnson that some members of the committee wanted Reynold's testimony to be released to the public. On 6th December, 1963, Jordan spoke to Johnson on the telephone and said he was doing what he could to suppress the story because " it might spread (to) a place where we don't want it spread."

Abe Fortas, a lawyer who represented both Lyndon B. Johnson and Bobby Baker, worked behind the scenes in an effort to keep this information from the public. Johnson also arranged for a smear campaign to be organized against Don B. Reynolds. To help him do this J. Edgar Hoover passed to Johnson the FBI file on Reynolds.
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Nancy Carole Tyler moved back to Tennessee but returned in 1965 to work with Baker as his bookkeeper at the Carousel Motel. Tyler believed that Baker would leave his wife. When he refused, she became very angry and according to Baker, made scenes. This included threats to commit suicide.
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On 10th May, 1965, Baker's secretary, Nancy Carole Tyler, died in a plane crash, near Ocean City, Maryland,. Her roommate, Mary Jo Kopechne, died in road accident when a passenger of a car driven by Edward Kennedy.
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2010, 05:10:13 pm »
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2010, 01:29:28 pm »
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Somebody also broke into the Kennedy doctors' office and ransacked the place and a few days later, Texan John Connelly, a Johnson supporter held a press conference to announce that Kennedy had Addison's disease and would not live long enough to fulfill his term.


http://addisonshelp.blogspot.com/2009/06/jfk-and-addisons-disease.html
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Another prominent Johnson ally, campaign manager John Connolly [not to be confused with Texas politician John Connally], charged that, if nominated and elected, Kennedy “couldn’t serve out the term” since “he was going to die.”

Ok but....
John Connally WAS an interesting character:

http://www.answers.com/topic/john-connally
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Connally served in the United States Navy during World War II, first as an aide to James V. Forrestal [ who suicided out a window ] , then as part of the planning staff for the invasion of Africa by General Dwight D. Eisenhower. He transferred to the South Pacific Theater, where he served with distinction. He was a fighter-plane director aboard the aircraft carrier USS Essex and won a Bronze Star for bravery. He was shifted to another carrier, the USS Bennington and won a Legion of Merit. He was also involved in the campaigns in the Gilbert, Marshall, Ryukyu, and Philippine islands. He was discharged in 1946 at the rank of lieutenant commander.[2]

On his release from the Navy, Connally practiced law but soon returned to Washington, D.C. to serve as a key aide to Lyndon Baines Johnson, when LBJ was a Congressman. He maintained close ties with Johnson until the former president's death in 1973.

Lawyer for Sid Richardson

Two of Connally's principal legal clients were the Texas oil tycoon Sid W. Richardson and Perry Bass, Richardson's nephew and partner, both of Fort Worth. Richardson's empire at the time was estimated at $200 million to $1 billion. Under Richardson's tutelage, Connally gained experience in a variety of enterprises and received tips on real estate purchases. The work required the Connallys to relocate to Fort Worth. When Richardson died in 1959, Connally was named to the lucrative position as co-executor of the estate.[3]

Connally was also involved in a reported clandestine deal to place the Texas Democrat Robert Anderson on the 1956 Republican ticket as vice president. Though the idea fell through when Dwight Eisenhower retained Richard Nixon in the second slot, Anderson received a million dollars for his efforts and a subsequent appointment as treasury secretary, the same position that Connally would fill for Nixon fourteen years later in 1971 [a payoff?] . Moreover, in another irony, Anderson had been Eisenhower's first Navy secretary, the post that Connally filled for John F. Kennedy in 1961.[4]

From Navy Secretary to Governor
At the 1960 Democratic convention in Los Angeles, Connally led supporters of Senator Lyndon Johnson.

He claimed that John F. Kennedy, if nominated and elected, would be unable to serve as president for a full term because of Addison's disease and dependence on cortisone.

Kennedy, however, had wrapped up the needed delegates for nomination before the convention even opened. Kennedy realized that he could not be elected without support of traditional Southern Democratic votes [ really? ] , many of whom had backed Johnson. Therefore, Johnson was offered the vice-presidential nomination.[5]

Secretary of the Navy
At Johnson's request, in 1961 President Kennedy named Connally Secretary of the Navy. Connally resigned eleven months later to run for the Texas governorship
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2012, 11:44:41 am »
Bump for Gore Vidal's death at 86 (half-brother of Jackie Kennedy)
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #67 on: August 01, 2012, 03:57:13 pm »
in 1963 the money said united states note 20012 the money says federal reserve note smokin gun right there

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2013, 02:31:49 pm »
bump for memorial day
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2014, 09:15:21 pm »
bump for 2014
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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2015, 10:46:31 am »

>> "The roommate at Andover was Edward Gordon Hooker.  Both Bush and Hooker served on three student groups together at Andover, including the student year book the Pot Pourri.  His mother, Cartwright 'Betty' Hooker, married de Mohrenschildt's brother Dimitri in January of 1937.  De Mohrenschildt would be actually Hooker's 'step-uncle,' and not an uncle like George Bush made out, as if he didn't know de Mohrenschildt well.  [footnote--FBI document  [#100-32965-154, p. 67; Student year book Pot Pourri, at Andover.]  ...
"It was through the friendship of George Bush and Edward Hooker that Dimitri and George de Mohrenschildt came into contact with the future President,  George Bush.  For both Bush and Dimitri and his brother George had contact with the CIA and Allen Dulles.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol12/pdf/HSCA_Vol12_deMohren.pdf

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4555
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Some of the major discoveries include:

De M and his brother worked for Henry Luce's Time-Life
Mrs. De M worked with Abe Zapruder and Olga Fehmer at clothing operation Nardis of Dallas in 1953. Olga's daughter became senior officer at CIA. Abe's son was lawyer for Department of Justice on November 22, 1963. Zapruder and de M belonged to same CIA organization Dallas Council on World Affairs founded by George H.W. Bush's mentor, Neil Mallon.
George H.W. Bush knew de M since 1942. Bay of Pigs was Bush's Baby Operation Zapata.
Allen Dulles knew de M's brother in 1953.
De M and his brother knew 50 CIA agents, consultants and operatives. De Mohrenschildt's father-in-law, Samuel Walter Washington was in charge of more than 250 CIA agents 1950-53.
De M knew Jackie Kennedy and her mother Janet Bouvier in 1938.
De M knew Mrs. Kennedy's dress designer Oleg Cassini and his brother Igor. Igor's wife Charlene (Wrightsman) Cassini committed suicide on April 7, 1963, while de Mohrenschildt is hanging out with Oswald.
De M knew JFK's landlord, C. Michael Paul friend of Charlene (Wrightsman) Cassini.
De M meets with LBJ seven months before JFK's death (Marie Fehmer present?).
De M worked for N. Rockefeller and Wm. S. Paley.
De M had ties to six trustees of the Museum of Modern Art: Philip C. Johnson, (architect of JFK memorial), Nelson Rockefeller, Wm. S. Paley, Henry Luce, Charles B. Wrightsman and John Hay Whitney (in-law to Paley).
De M was business partners with Mohamed Al Fayed in 1964. Fayed had an affair with Alexandra de Mohrenschildt and James Angleton of the CIA was interested in this.
This Timeline Chart presents facts. No one listed in the Timeline Chart is to be presumed guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy, solely upon his or her association, direct or indirect, to George De Mohrenschildt, Oswald's closest friend. Any such conclusion is for the reader to make.
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This guy Edward Gordon Hooker, he worked in the 60s as a broker for EF Hutton.
A branch of Hutton will later get in trouble for money laundering for the mob.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-10-12/business/fi-8976_1_money-laundering-case

Also, this:
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On 9/11, the most interesting character working for AON was Jim Pierce, the cousin of George W. Bush. Jim's father Scott Pierce, formerly a partner at G.H. Walker & Co, pled guilty to 2,000 counts of mail fraud in 1985, as President of E.F. Hutton.

Jim Pierce was managing director of AON on 9/11, and he had arranged a meeting on the 105th floor of the south tower for that morning. Pierce survived that day, despite the fact that twelve people came to the meeting in the south tower, and eleven of them died. The location of the meeting had been changed, the night before, to the Millenium Hotel, where Pierce watched the south tower as it was hit by the aircraft. Apparently the meeting attendees were not all notified of the change in location.
http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p1.html

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Re: Exactly 46 years late, odd clue into who lead the JFK execution team
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2017, 06:28:02 pm »
bump for disclosure ...
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